Re: In Defense of Penrose. That everybody --including materialists, empiricists and rationalists--is a Platonist

2013-06-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Jun 2013, at 19:23, meekerdb wrote: On 6/16/2013 12:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 15 Jun 2013, at 21:57, meekerdb wrote: On 6/15/2013 12:40 AM, chris peck wrote: Hi Rog As you have described them a materialist could not be a "combination of both" rationalism and empiricism, beca

Re: In Defense of Penrose. That everybody --including materialists, empiricists and rationalists--is a Platonist

2013-06-16 Thread meekerdb
On 6/16/2013 12:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 15 Jun 2013, at 21:57, meekerdb wrote: On 6/15/2013 12:40 AM, chris peck wrote: Hi Rog As you have described them a materialist could not be a "combination of both" rationalism and empiricism, because you have them as diametrically opposed. If

Re: In Defense of Penrose. That everybody --including materialists, empiricists and rationalists--is a Platonist

2013-06-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
hing-list Sent: Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:40 am Subject: RE: In Defense of Penrose. That everybody --including materialists, empiricists and rationalists--is a Platonist Hi Rog As you have described them a materialist could not be a "combination of both" rationalism and empiricism, be

Re: In Defense of Penrose. That everybody --including materialists, empiricists and rationalists--is a Platonist

2013-06-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Jun 2013, at 21:57, meekerdb wrote: On 6/15/2013 12:40 AM, chris peck wrote: Hi Rog As you have described them a materialist could not be a "combination of both" rationalism and empiricism, because you have them as diametrically opposed. If "reason alone" is the source of knowled

Re: In Defense of Penrose. That everybody --including materialists, empiricists and rationalists--is a Platonist

2013-06-15 Thread spudboy100
-adinkras-and-nature-reality/1460 Sincerely, Mitch -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list Sent: Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:48 pm Subject: Re: In Defense of Penrose. That everybody --including materialists, empiricists and rationalists--is a Platonist On 15 Jun 2013, at

Re: In Defense of Penrose. That everybody --including materialists, empiricists and rationalists--is a Platonist

2013-06-15 Thread meekerdb
On 6/15/2013 12:40 AM, chris peck wrote: Hi Rog As you have described them a materialist could not be a "combination of both" rationalism and empiricism, because you have them as diametrically opposed. If "reason alone" is the source of knowledge, then experience isn't and can't be combined t

Re: In Defense of Penrose. That everybody --including materialists, empiricists and rationalists--is a Platonist

2013-06-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
cosmos *cannot* be programmed, as it emerges from a sort of competitions between all "digital approximations" of it. Bruno -Original Message- From: chris peck To: everything-list Sent: Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:40 am Subject: RE: In Defense of Penrose. That everybody -

Re: In Defense of Penrose. That everybody --including materialists, empiricists and rationalists--is a Platonist

2013-06-15 Thread spudboy100
: In Defense of Penrose. That everybody --including materialists, empiricists and rationalists--is a Platonist Hi Rog As you have described them a materialist could not be a "combination of both" rationalism and empiricism, because you have them as diametrically opposed. If "r

RE: In Defense of Penrose. That everybody --including materialists, empiricists and rationalists--is a Platonist

2013-06-15 Thread chris peck
Hi Rog As you have described them a materialist could not be a "combination of both" rationalism and empiricism, because you have them as diametrically opposed. If "reason alone" is the source of knowledge, then experience isn't and can't be combined to be. Besides, Materialism is an ontologic