Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 23 Sep 2013, at 21:44, John Mikes wrote: Bruno wrote: "of Whom? Conscious applies to person and they all have some "I", even if they cannot be sure what it is, and perceive it in many ways. Here I am again in the dichotomy with Brent about 'alive' and 'life': 'conscious' and 'consciousne

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-23 Thread John Mikes
Bruno wrote: "of Whom? Conscious applies to person and they all have some "I", even if they cannot be sure what it is, and perceive it in many ways. Here I am again in the dichotomy with Brent about 'alive' and 'life': 'conscious' and 'consciousness'! I arrived at the latter as "response to relatio

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Sep 2013, at 22:59, meekerdb wrote: On 9/21/2013 7:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The content might be, "There is a flying pink elephant in my room." which is both dubitable and almost certainly false. And if the thought is, "I had a conscious thought." that too is dubitable. We

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-21 Thread meekerdb
On 9/21/2013 7:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The content might be, "There is a flying pink elephant in my room." which is both dubitable and almost certainly false. And if the thought is, "I had a conscious thought." that too is dubitable. We agree on this. The indubitable thought is not "I

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Sep 2013, at 19:48, meekerdb wrote: On 9/20/2013 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Note also that Truth, by definition cannot be Popperian: it is not falsifiable, of course. That's a common point with consciousness "here-and-now", which is not falsifiable nor doubtable, yet true (except

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-21 Thread LizR
On 21 September 2013 12:15, meekerdb wrote: > On 9/20/2013 3:53 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 21 September 2013 05:48, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 9/20/2013 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> Note also that Truth, by definition cannot be Popperian: it is not >> falsifiable, of course. That's a common p

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-21 Thread Alberto G. Corona
The most interesting and less known work of Popper is the foundation of evolutionary epistemology http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/epistemology-evolutionary/ which is much more ambitious that falsacionism and mere demarcation and is far far more interesting. 2013/9/20 Bruno Marchal > Hi Chri

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-20 Thread meekerdb
On 9/20/2013 3:53 PM, LizR wrote: On 21 September 2013 05:48, meekerdb > wrote: On 9/20/2013 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Note also that Truth, by definition cannot be Popperian: it is not falsifiable, of course. That's a common point with consciousnes

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-20 Thread LizR
On 21 September 2013 05:48, meekerdb wrote: > On 9/20/2013 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Note also that Truth, by definition cannot be Popperian: it is not > falsifiable, of course. That's a common point with consciousness > "here-and-now", which is not falsifiable nor doubtable, yet true (e

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-20 Thread meekerdb
On 9/20/2013 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Note also that Truth, by definition cannot be Popperian: it is not falsifiable, of course. That's a common point with consciousness "here-and-now", which is not falsifiable nor doubtable, yet true (except for the zombies of course). OK? I think that

When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Chris, On 20 Sep 2013, at 02:45, chris peck wrote: Hi John >>It doesn't take a genius to realize that if a idea isn't getting anywhere, that is to say if it doesn't produce new interesting ideas, your time would be better spent doing something else. Whats with this idea that the o