[Evolution-hackers] More on message state
After poking around, I discovered that although "follow up" status is not preserved on copy, and is not kept on the IMAP server even where it exists, the colored labels are preserved on copy and are kept on the IMAP server (as $Label1, etc). So I think I have a solution to my immediate problem: 1) get all messages marked for followup together (e.g., by sorting or vfolder). 2) select them all 3) right click | label | ToDo. 4) copy the folder. If I look at the folder from different evo clients, they should all show the ToDo status (whereas the "FollowUp" status is kept with the client). There do seem to more types of message status, and more ways of handling them internally, then necessary. I think the situation is this Replied, seen, and other "standard" IMAP status information is kept in a bit mask in a single word and stored in the standard IMAP flags. These are copied. "Labels" that affect coloring (e.g., To Do) are kept in a special info structure, and stored on the IMAP server in custom flags $Label1, 2, etc. (It might be better to use flags with meaningful names, though that does increase the risk of clashingn with other uses of those names. On the other hand, another app that sets a ToDo flag prbably means the same thing as evolution does). These are copied. "Mark for followup" and its attendent substates--I'm not sure how this is handled internally, though it may be the string-valued user tags. It is not kept on the IMAP server, and is not copied. Ross ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Ical (WebDAV) Web-Calendar read-only!?
Artur Mücke píše v Pá 30. 11. 2007 v 12:49 +0100: > Btw, thats really strange. What happenend to the project started in > October 2005: > http://www.open-xchange.org/pipermail/devel/2005-October/012704.html probably a good question to that project, and their mailing list. :) andre -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | failed http://www.iomc.de/ signature.asc Description: Toto je digitálně podepsaná část zprávy ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Ical (WebDAV) Web-Calendar read-only!?
This was discussed recently on the channel as well, Le vendredi 30 novembre 2007 à 11:56 +, Ross Burton a écrit : > On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 12:49 +0100, Artur Mücke wrote: > > > I presume its using Webdav to write to the calendar file. > > > > Yes, your presumption is right because it is using WebDAV but I > thought > > Evolution is doing the same, isnt it? > > No, Evolution uses plain HTTP. > > > There are many problems with this approach including locking, > concurrent writes, > > > and notification of changes. However if you are the only person > using > > > the remote calendar, it would work. [snip] > Unless there are extensions I'm not aware of, that sounds like its > going > to break. If both User A and User B edit the calendar, they will race > to write the changes. The second person to write will replace the > first > person's changes. publish_calendar is the closest thing to be compared to "on the web" calendar write support. It uses plain gnome_vfs_write and (although I didn't read this part yet) I suspect gnome_vfs handles most of the tricks needed (locking, ...). If it doesn't, fixes are belong to gnome-vfs probably. -- Gilles Dartiguelongue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Ical (WebDAV) Web-Calendar read-only!?
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 12:49 +0100, Artur Mücke wrote: > > I presume its using Webdav to write to the calendar file. > > Yes, your presumption is right because it is using WebDAV but I thought > Evolution is doing the same, isnt it? No, Evolution uses plain HTTP. > > There are many problems with this approach including locking, concurrent > > writes, > > and notification of changes. However if you are the only person using > > the remote calendar, it would work. > > I dont know about that yet but I dont hope there are gonna be such > problems because there will be more than 50 users using the OpenXchange > server. > > You scared me a bit with your statement. :-/ Unless there are extensions I'm not aware of, that sounds like its going to break. If both User A and User B edit the calendar, they will race to write the changes. The second person to write will replace the first person's changes. > However, we can outline that its definitely not possible to use WebDAV > with Evoltion for writing/deleting appointsments if there is no support > for CalDAV in OpenXchange!? Evolution doesn't support using webdav for interactive editing of calendars. I think you can sync a calendar remotely using webdav, or use caldav. > Btw, thats really strange. What happenend to the project started in > October 2005: > http://www.open-xchange.org/pipermail/devel/2005-October/012704.html > > I cannot find any result from this project!? Ah, their webdav custom interface doesn't involve downloading and uploading entire ical files. This would need support in Evolution, and I've no idea if there has been any progress. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Ical (WebDAV) Web-Calendar read-only!?
Ross Burton schrieb: > On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 12:23 +0100, Artur Mücke wrote: >> Hmm, I dont know exactly about that, but e.g. in KDE-kontact I can use >> my web-calendar like I want to. If I set it up with the same settings >> like in Evolution (https://IP-Address/servlet/webdav.ical). Its possible >> to create and delete appointsments in kontact without a problem. >> >> How can that be!? I am really confused about that? > > I presume its using Webdav to write to the calendar file. Yes, your presumption is right because it is using WebDAV but I thought Evolution is doing the same, isnt it? > There are many problems with this approach including locking, concurrent > writes, > and notification of changes. However if you are the only person using > the remote calendar, it would work. I dont know about that yet but I dont hope there are gonna be such problems because there will be more than 50 users using the OpenXchange server. You scared me a bit with your statement. :-/ However, we can outline that its definitely not possible to use WebDAV with Evoltion for writing/deleting appointsments if there is no support for CalDAV in OpenXchange!? Btw, thats really strange. What happenend to the project started in October 2005: http://www.open-xchange.org/pipermail/devel/2005-October/012704.html I cannot find any result from this project!? Cheers, Artur -- "There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary math, and those who don't." ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Ical (WebDAV) Web-Calendar read-only!?
Andre Klapper schrieb: > hi artur, > > Am Freitag, den 30.11.2007, 11:31 +0100 schrieb Artur Mücke: >> does anyone know if there is a plan when web-calendars will be >> implemented as writable in Evolution? > > web calendars are, by definition, read-only. it's the same with web > pages when using your browser. ;-) > what you want is CalDAV, and a complaint to OpenXChange to support it. > >> Does anyone know if/when iCal calendars will be writable in Evolution!? > > ical is just a file format and has nothing to do with this i'd say. > > andre Hmm, I dont know exactly about that, but e.g. in KDE-kontact I can use my web-calendar like I want to. If I set it up with the same settings like in Evolution (https://IP-Address/servlet/webdav.ical). Its possible to create and delete appointsments in kontact without a problem. How can that be!? I am really confused about that? Cheers, Artur -- "There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary math, and those who don't." ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Ical (WebDAV) Web-Calendar read-only!?
hi artur, Am Freitag, den 30.11.2007, 11:31 +0100 schrieb Artur Mücke: > does anyone know if there is a plan when web-calendars will be > implemented as writable in Evolution? web calendars are, by definition, read-only. it's the same with web pages when using your browser. ;-) what you want is CalDAV, and a complaint to OpenXChange to support it. > Does anyone know if/when iCal calendars will be writable in Evolution!? ical is just a file format and has nothing to do with this i'd say. andre -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | failed http://www.iomc.de/ signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] Ical (WebDAV) Web-Calendar read-only!?
Hi, does anyone know if there is a plan when web-calendars will be implemented as writable in Evolution? I am asking because I want to use Evolution as client for my OpenXchange Server that is working with iCal-Calendars. Unfortunately OpenXchange doesnt have any CalDAV implementation so I am kind of dependent to the ical-support. Does anyone know if/when iCal calendars will be writable in Evolution!? Would be glad about some answers. Cheers, Artur -- "There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary math, and those who don't." ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] HTML composer as a standalone program?
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 17:35 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote: > Someone needs to go and fix Evo so it properly converts & to & > inside HREF attributes again. It's been broken this whole release. I > hate having to save the email to disk and reopen it from Firefox in > order to properly use the links in some emails. Boy am I embarrassed. It must have got fixed in 2.12.2 because it works now. Sorry about that. -- Zan Lynx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Ical (WebDAV) Web-Calendar read-only!?
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 12:23 +0100, Artur Mücke wrote: > Hmm, I dont know exactly about that, but e.g. in KDE-kontact I can use > my web-calendar like I want to. If I set it up with the same settings > like in Evolution (https://IP-Address/servlet/webdav.ical). Its possible > to create and delete appointsments in kontact without a problem. > > How can that be!? I am really confused about that? I presume its using Webdav to write to the calendar file. There are many problems with this approach including locking, concurrent writes, and notification of changes. However if you are the only person using the remote calendar, it would work. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Ical (WebDAV) Web-Calendar read-only!?
Hi Arthur, On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 11:31 +0100, Artur Mücke wrote: > Hi, > > does anyone know if there is a plan when web-calendars will be > implemented as writable in Evolution? > > I am asking because I want to use Evolution as client for my OpenXchange > Server that is working with iCal-Calendars. Unfortunately OpenXchange > doesnt have any CalDAV implementation so I am kind of dependent to the > ical-support. > > Does anyone know if/when iCal calendars will be writable in Evolution!? It should not be a very big effort to make the web-calendars writable. If someone is ready to work on it, I can guide them. If someone takes it up, prolly we can have in the evolution-2.22 release (next major release) itself. -Chenthill. > > Would be glad about some answers. > > Cheers, > > Artur > ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
