Re: [Evolution] Synchronisation problem
Hi, I understand what could happen. I regularly perform a cleanup of the cache by 'Bleachbit'. I will try to set ~/.local/share/evolution/* into the white list. Tks a lot for decoding the error message. Bye. David. Le lundi 05 septembre 2022 à 10:01 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list a écrit : > On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 22:16 +0200, David Lemonnier wrote: > > > Le moteur « David » de la liste de tâches a rencontré une erreur. > > > > > > L’erreur signalée était « SQLite error code '8': attempt to write > > > a > > > readonly database > > Hi, > I'm sorry, I do not speak (nor write) French. I hope it will be > helpful > anyway. > > There happened something to the underlying database, where the task > list stores its data. The usual location is either > > ~/.local/share/evolution/tasks/ > > for On This Computer tasks lists and > > ~/.cache/evolution/tasks/ > > for remote task lists (I speak of the task lists, because the error > message you pasted claims VTODO, which are tasks; you can get similar > errors for calendar, where the end of the path will not be `tasks`, > but > it'll be `calendar`, and for memos it'll be `memos`). > > The last time I saw a similar error was when I deleted the files from > the ~/.cache/evolution/tasks/ while the evolution-calendar-factory > process had been running. To fix that, I simply restarted the > process, > either manually (`pkill -TERM evolution-calendar-factory`) or just by > `evolution --force-shutdown`. You should make sure Evolution itself > is > not running when you are killing the background process. > > Try to find out what deletes the files from the ~/.cache/evolution/ > for > you. Maybe you've setup some regular automatic cleanup of the cache > data, which is harmful for the evolution-data-server itself, because > the data stored in the cache is re-downloaded on demand, whenever > missing. > > Bye, > Milan > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Outlook E-Mail groups
Hi Team, Do you know if it is possible to see outlook exchange email groups in evolution in 3.44.4 ? Please see attached. Kind regards, David___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Synchronisation problem
Hello,
I have a problem with the synchronisation process.
It is OK from my smartphone to the server, but doesn't synchronise with
my laptop.
It was working and suddenly not. I have no idea about what's
happened...
Here is the message :
> Le moteur « David » de la liste de tâches a rencontré une erreur.
>
> L’erreur signalée était « SQLite error code '8': attempt to write a
> readonly database (statement:INSERT OR REPLACE INTO 'ECacheObjects'
> (ECacheUID,ECacheREV,ECacheOBJ,ECacheState,'location','due','has_alar
> m','occur_end','completed','custom_flags','percent_complete','classif
> ication','description','summary','comment','categories','has_recurren
> ces','attendees','has_attachment','has_start','status','occur_start',
> 'bdata','priority','organizer') VALUES
> ('27303271ea85717ede6522edba3c806687f45427','00388a046cce0d91e3a6f4fd
> 4abd7ec6','BEGIN:VTODO
> DTSTAMP:20220902T170616Z
> UID:27303271ea85717ede6522edba3c806687f45427
> SEQUENCE:8
> CREATED:20220816T181246Z
> LAST-MODIFIED:20220902T170544Z
> SUMMARY:Retour pièces voiture
> PRIORITY:5
It was already happened and the solution was to delete each calendar to
create it again.
I would be interested for a real solution...
Thanks a lot.
(French answer appreciated...)
--
David L.
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[Evolution] Outlook Groups
Hi Team, I have recently moved from windows to Ubuntu and I have configured my Microsoft exchange work email on Evolution and I have all my emails and calendars connected. However I need to also be able to see my Outlook groups and I cant seem to be able to connect them to Evolution. Can someone please confirm if it is possible to connect Outlook exchange groups to Evolution ? Version of Evolution: 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) Kind Regards, David___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Deleting emails from the server
I apologize at the start, I do not have my Evolution version on this device. I am running on an Ubutnu laptop and Evolution seems to be deleting the emails off the server when it downloads them. I can't seem to find a switch to stop this so I can download them to other devices. Any suggestions? TIA, Dave ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution - Dealing with groups
On Fri, 2022-05-06 at 08:56 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Thu, 2022-05-05 at 21:38 -0700, Ubuntu Shoto Dojo wrote: > > How can I receive from a group? > > SMTP has no concept of a group; the upshot is there is nothing in the > message envelope [headers, etc...] which indicate a message was sent to > a group. > > What "group" means is always an implementation detail of the client > and/or server. The mail standards are divided into the SMTP transport itself (RFC5321) and the 'Internet Message Format' standard (RFC5322). You are strictly correct the *SMTP* has no concept of a group. It's not mentioned in RFC5321 and not a concept which the underlying SMTP transport has. Note also, though, that message *headers* are not part of the SMTP envelope; those are part of the message format as described by RFC5322. They don't always match. When you receive this message it'll probably have 'evolution-list@gnome.org' in the cosmetic To: header that is part of the message itself, but in the copy that you receive from the mailing list software, the SMTP *envelope* will only be to you. So while you're right about SMTP itself, that's not the point; the message format as described in RFC5322 (and all the way back to RFC822) very much *does* have the concept of a group. See RFC5322 §3.4 at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5322#section-3.4 group = display-name ":" [group-list] ";" [CFWS] These are all valid To: headers with groups in them: To: Undisclosed recipients : ; To: Bob and Jane: b...@example.com, j...@example.com; To: Just Bob: "Bob Example" ; You can see more examples at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5322#appendix-A.1.3 There's even RFC6854 which allows groups to be used in the From: and Sender: fields as well as the recipient fields: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6854 So yes, if a mail user agent uses groups and puts them into the cosmetic To/Cc headers correctly, then a recipient *can* filter on the name of the group, e.g. "Bob and Jane" or "Just Bob" and do what it likes based on that information. That said, I don't think Evolution gets groups right at all. Last time I checked, it doesn't even let you explicitly type a standard RFC5322- compliant group into the To: or Cc: headers. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Showing only future calendar events in list view
I'm setting up Evolution 3.42.3 (3.42.3-1.fc35) using a CalDAV calendar. When I select calendar list view it displays events from the start of the calendar years in the past. I tried setting the pulldown to next 7 days' appointments but it displays the same past entries. Active appointments displays the same. Didn't see any obvious way to mark the past appointments inactive. How can I get list view to only show future events? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] contacts - People API vs. Contacts API
Sorry, the fault is all mine. I did not realise that my distribution is shipping an old evolution version (3.36). I did confuse cardDAV and contact interfaces partly because of that. I have now found how to use Flatpak to install the current stable version. I see in the evolution change log that it was you that implemented the CardDav interface - thank you for that. Regards David On Thu, 2021-11-25 at 12:27 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 15:30 +0100, David Charlton wrote: > > So > > a) Is there a move to support People API for evolution anywhere? > > And > > if not will evolution stop accessing google contacts anytime soon? > > > > b) Given what I am doing is there a better, longer term supported > > solution? (Though this is probably better in another post!) > > Hi, > I'm sorry, I'm confused. You reply to a message, which answers both > of your questions. It usually happens the other way, question is > asked, > answer is given. > > Is my response hard to decipher? I know I use to have hard times to > express myself. Are the steps how to make it work even on > distributions > which do not ship an Evolution version, which has that done > transparently, hard to follow? > > Okay, there's a typo (I do a lot of typos, all day long): > > > > You an setup... > > which was supposed to be > > You can setup... > > but, I hope, it could be realized easily after following the text. > > I'm willing to elaborate, reword the steps, if needed, just let me > know. > Thanks and bye, > Milan > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.gnome.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fevolution-listdata=04%7C01%7C%7Ced818729e1c744a4715908d9b006c0d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637734365315378141%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=lMT0l9jlI3zF3om67mbK7xnfGmCd6mffYF3%2BUGpbcSY%3Dreserved=0 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] contacts - People API vs. Contacts API
Happened again just now - English version of the message is "Invalid request URI or header, or unsupported nonstandard parameter: Contacts API is being deprecated. Migrate to People API to retain programmatic access to Google Contacts. See https://developers.google.com/people/contacts-api-migration.; This crops up occaisionally not every time. It appears in a wider error message saying unable to connect to google contact. If you hit the "reconnect" button in that message all is restored but for how long will that be the case? On Thu, 2021-11-25 at 09:18 +, David Charlton wrote: > Yes. That is the message I get (in English) on occaision. Which > started me off looking for a solution.. I notice my version of > evolution is also 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 though I regularly update the > Ubuntu > 20.04.3 LTS system I use. Not sure how to use the CardDAV variant > though. > > Cheers > > David > > On Thu, 2021-11-25 at 09:38 +0100, Torsten Krah via evolution-list > wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, dem 24.11.2021 um 08:55 +0100 schrieb Milan Crha via > > evolution-list: > > > Hi, > > > > > > evolution(-data-server) used libgdata to access Google Contacts. > > > The > > > > > > libgdata does not support the People API, thus the Google > > > contacts > > > are > > > > > > shown using the CardDAV interface the Google offers. That's > > > built- > > > in > > > > > > sync 3.42.0 of the evolution-data-server. Unfortunately, the > > > CardDAV > > > > > > API is not that feature rich as the Contacts API. > > > > Just was asking because sometimes I get this when starting: > > > > Ungültige Anfrageadresse oder -kopfzeile, oder nicht unterstützter > > Nicht-Standardparameter: Contacts API is being deprecated. > > Migrate to People API to retain programmatic access to Google > > Contacts. See > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdevelopers.google.com%2Fpeople%2Fcontacts-api-migrationdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cb387a5623e8046a56ecc08d9aff49440%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637734287257842416%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=TTiekNwxkZKdzNQar1HoN3IHaruJ4YO7yChlECNX1NA%3Dreserved=0 > > . > > > > using my (dated) evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 > > > > I'll try that CardDAV variant. > > > > kind regards > > > > Torsten > > > > ___ > > evolution-list mailing list > > evolution-list@gnome.org > > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.gnome.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fevolution-listdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cb387a5623e8046a56ecc08d9aff49440%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637734287257842416%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=K%2FkddJ5QBeR6eXlhd38b3FW9Z8GQGK%2BKVPrfxDP60eM%3Dreserved=0 > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.gnome.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fevolution-listdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cb387a5623e8046a56ecc08d9aff49440%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637734287257842416%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=K%2FkddJ5QBeR6eXlhd38b3FW9Z8GQGK%2BKVPrfxDP60eM%3Dreserved=0 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] contacts - People API vs. Contacts API
This has been bothering me for a while. I use evolution (on ubuntu), Android for phone and tablet and Outlook on windows 10. They all sync google contacts and calendars. Which pretty much works. Evolution/Google have been complaining for sometime about the contacts versus people api use in evolution saying contact api is depricated. Google now say it is "sunsetted" post June 2021 i.e. not saupported so I am not sure how it keeps working?? Looking at libgdata there is some activity but it doesn't seem a hugely supported library and no talk of moving to people api that I can see. I have looked for an alternative but dont really want to go down the microsoft/activesync route as it will involve effort and I dont really trust microsoft not to pull up the drawbridge at some point. So a) Is there a move to support People API for evolution anywhere? And if not will evolution stop accessing google contacts anytime soon? b) Given what I am doing is there a better, longer term supported solution? (Though this is probably better in another post!) Cheers David On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 08:55 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 08:20 +0100, Torsten Krah via evolution-list > wrote: > > since which version of evolution the People API is used for > > accessing > > the contacts of Google contacts? > > Hi, > evolution(-data-server) used libgdata to access Google Contacts. The > libgdata does not support the People API, thus the Google contacts > are > shown using the CardDAV interface the Google offers. That's built-in > sync 3.42.0 of the evolution-data-server. Unfortunately, the CardDAV > API is not that feature rich as the Contacts API. > > You an setup a CardDAV book accessing: > > https://apidata.googleusercontent.com/carddav/v1/principals/u...@gmail.com/lists/default/ > > The only tricky thing is to create such book, then find its > corresponding file under ~/.config/evolution/sources/ (for example by > searching the files for "carddav/v1/principals" (quotes for clarity > only) and change the [Authentication] Method=... to Method=Google > > Then right-click the new book and pick Refresh. If that won't show > the > contacts, then use `evolution --force-shutdown` and start the > Evolution > again. > Bye, > Milan > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] contacts - People API vs. Contacts API
Yes. That is the message I get (in English) on occaision. Which started me off looking for a solution.. I notice my version of evolution is also 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 though I regularly update the Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS system I use. Not sure how to use the CardDAV variant though. Cheers David On Thu, 2021-11-25 at 09:38 +0100, Torsten Krah via evolution-list wrote: > Am Mittwoch, dem 24.11.2021 um 08:55 +0100 schrieb Milan Crha via > evolution-list: > > Hi, > > > > evolution(-data-server) used libgdata to access Google Contacts. > > The > > > > libgdata does not support the People API, thus the Google contacts > > are > > > > shown using the CardDAV interface the Google offers. That's built- > > in > > > > sync 3.42.0 of the evolution-data-server. Unfortunately, the > > CardDAV > > > > API is not that feature rich as the Contacts API. > > Just was asking because sometimes I get this when starting: > > Ungültige Anfrageadresse oder -kopfzeile, oder nicht unterstützter > Nicht-Standardparameter: Contacts API is being deprecated. > Migrate to People API to retain programmatic access to Google > Contacts. See > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdevelopers.google.com%2Fpeople%2Fcontacts-api-migrationdata=04%7C01%7C%7C9a329ee7af744d73d71408d9afef1067%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637734263570912789%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=gJybRl%2BTfe9ezwfvFGDcjQWSQXWTopIB0sASSC%2F6yTc%3Dreserved=0 > . > > using my (dated) evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 > > I'll try that CardDAV variant. > > kind regards > > Torsten > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.gnome.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fevolution-listdata=04%7C01%7C%7C9a329ee7af744d73d71408d9afef1067%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637734263570912789%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=QjyjyOUfkRkncyeh8a8Hoio8z%2Fu7kFz%2BL%2B9iVLLqv10%3Dreserved=0 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] contacts - People API vs. Contacts API
This has been bothering me for a while. I use evolution (on ubuntu), Android for phone and tablet and Outlook on windows 10. They all sync google contacts and calendars. Which pretty much works. Evolution/Google have been complaining for sometime about the contacts versus people api used in evolution saying contact api is depricated. Google now say it is "sunsetted" post June 2021 i.e. not saupported so I am not sure how it keeps working?? See https://developers.google.com/contacts/v3/announcement Looking at libgdata there is some activity but it doesn't seem a hugely supported library and no talk of moving to people api that I can see. I have looked for an alternative but dont really want to go down the microsoft/activesync route as it will involve effort and I dont really trust microsoft not to pull up the drawbridge at some point. So a) Is there a move to support People API for evolution anywhere? And if not will evolution stop accessing google contacts anytime soon? b) Given what I am doing is there a better, longer term supported solution? (Though this is probably better in another post!) Cheers DavidOn Wed, 2021-11-24 at 08:55 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 08:20 +0100, Torsten Krah via evolution-list > wrote: > > since which version of evolution the People API is used for > > accessing > > the contacts of Google contacts? > > Hi, > evolution(-data-server) used libgdata to access Google Contacts. The > libgdata does not support the People API, thus the Google contacts > are > shown using the CardDAV interface the Google offers. That's built-in > sync 3.42.0 of the evolution-data-server. Unfortunately, the CardDAV > API is not that feature rich as the Contacts API. > > You an setup a CardDAV book accessing: > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapidata.googleusercontent.com%2Fcarddav%2Fv1%2Fprincipals%2FUSER%40gmail.com%2Flists%2Fdefault%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf3d19a3411e3475d95a708d9af1fde7e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637733373676012882%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=kVSVR7LHVPb8k3cnncR7%2FWvENNyIcELPfJQv9ulS5Zc%3Dreserved=0 > > The only tricky thing is to create such book, then find its > corresponding file under ~/.config/evolution/sources/ (for example by > searching the files for "carddav/v1/principals" (quotes for clarity > only) and change the [Authentication] Method=... to Method=Google > > Then right-click the new book and pick Refresh. If that won't show > the > contacts, then use `evolution --force-shutdown` and start the > Evolution > again. > Bye, > Milan > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.gnome.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fevolution-listdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf3d19a3411e3475d95a708d9af1fde7e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637733373676012882%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=kpA3psgvXEViUJdvB%2BFrCkYlAJc%2FWpGcE36J67ZrtD4%3Dreserved=0 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Rules bug?
On Mon, 2021-07-26 at 12:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > What I think Adam is getting at is that using Evolution, a desktop > client, to redirect mail means that that redirection only occurs when > the application is running on the desktop. When it's not running, the > redirection doesn't happen. The default WHEN EVOLUTION IS RUNNING is for the filter-forwarded email to go to the outbox and sit there, maybe forever. (And not even the outbox of the account where the filter ran, but the On This Computer outbox. Which I check all the time. NOT.) The only way to change that default is to go to the command line and run > gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail flush-outbox true It's stunning that there are greybeards on this list defending this state of affairs. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Rules bug?
On Mon, 2021-07-26 at 06:39 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > Evolution is a mail client for a desktop > environment. If someone wants always-on automated services then that's > what servers are for; there are service-side filtering systems such as > SIEVE. Sorry, this is just so wrong. When I press Send on an email I have an expectation from 30 years of email clients that the mail goes. There is no excuse for not making immediate-send the default. Even less for hiding it in an obscure CLI setting. This attitude (Get a server!) is ridiculous. Using Evolution is not indicative of the skill or inclination to stand up servers, any more than using Outlook is indicative of the skill or inclination to code in C# for .NET. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Rules bug?
On Wed, 2021-07-21 at 10:28 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2021-07-21 at 02:15 -0400, David Frier wrote: > > Just maybe this should be the default? > > > > Or a message offered to the user when creating a filter with Forward > > To action? > > > > Hi, > the idea behind the default value is that the filters may forward > multiple message, thus it's better to pile them up and flush the Outbox > at once, rather than connect to the sending server for each message > separately. > That strikes me as a holdover from the days of dial-up. When internet was charged by the minute, not the month. > Another benefit is to have a chance to check what is forwarded. > The delay can be a NON-default option. My mail client runs unattended most of the time. > The disadvantage, as you realized, is the delay in the message send, > until the user flushes the Outbox manually. > Bye, > Milan > This should be possible but never the default. As design choices based on how people use email, these decisions are terrible. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Rules bug?
On Wed, 2021-07-21 at 07:22 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2021-07-20 at 08:22 -0400, David Frier wrote: > > When the rule fires, the forward goes into the Outbox of OTC and... > > sits there. Until I > > Hi, > the forward through mail filters is separate from the usual message > sending. Use: > >$ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail flush-outbox true > > to make the messages being sent immediately after they are forwarded > through the message filters. > Bye, > Milan > Just maybe this should be the default? Or a message offered to the user when creating a filter with Forward To action? Because... wow. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Rules bug?
On Tue, 2021-07-20 at 16:11 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > What is the setting of > > > > > > Edit -> Preferences -> Composer Preferences -> General > > > -> Send message through outbox > > > > > > > Aha - it's "Keep in Outbox" How odd, as a default. > > > > I guess I want, "Send..." something. Either "Immediately" or "after 5 > > minutes"? > > > > > Just untick the option and it should send without using the OutBox. > > P. errr... it **was** unticked. I had to tick it to un-grey the drop-down. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Rules bug?
On Tue, 2021-07-20 at 14:37 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Tue, 2021-07-20 at 08:22 -0400, David Frier wrote: > > It always helps to say what your Evolution version is. Gaah. Rookie mistake. It's 3.30.5-1.1 > What is the setting of > > Edit -> Preferences -> Composer Preferences -> General > -> Send message through outbox > Aha - it's "Keep in Outbox" How odd, as a default. I guess I want, "Send..." something. Either "Immediately" or "after 5 minutes"? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Rules bug?
I have a rule that takes messages from a certain sender and forwards them to another account. In my setup I have three email accounts via IMAP, which means I have four mailboxes (the three IMAP remote boxes plus "On This Computer", hereafter "OTC"). When the rule fires, the forward goes into the Outbox of OTC and... sits there. Until I manually flush it. Then the Sent folder of the account where the rule is in effect gets the copy of the sent message. Is this a bug or have I set this up incorrectly? --David ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Backup and duplication Evolution Email
Hi, Thanks all. The reason I doubted File->"Back up Evolution Data" is that the evolution-backup-20210621.tar.gz is 10.2MB The equivalent Thunderbird directory is over 109MB Shall try restoring the backup on Evolution on the new machine tomorrow The new AMD 5800x box is > 17x the old 4 core Intel dude. That's based on a mix of finite element modelling/meshing, machine learning DSP algorithms to sieve the results. Going fully parallel and with GPU's in the loop excites. Retire Intel box as a gift to someone methinks. -- Regards, David Greig -Original Message- From: Ángel To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Backup and duplication Evolution Email Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 01:30:58 +0200 On 2021-06-21 at 00:03 +0100, David Greig via evolution-list wrote: > Hi, > > I need to transfer(xfer) Evolution Email to a new computer > > My observation is that email and settings are in >1 folders. > > What should I do? https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/backup-restore.html.en Although if you are migrating the whole account, simply copying your HOME would do. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Backup and duplication Evolution Email
Hi, I need to transfer(xfer) Evolution Email to a new computer My observation is that email and settings are in >1 folders. What should I do? -- Regards, David Greig ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Gmail, & Yahoo
Thanks Milan, have reinstalled to a flatpak Evolution 3.40.2. This has solved the problem of not connecting but both Yahoo & Gmail keep asking for passwords etc. Although they do connect sometimes. At the moment one of the gmail accounts is connected but the other one has not; just keeps asking for password when I try to reconnect. Hope this makes sense. David ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Help
Evolution V. 3.36.5-0ubunt I am new to evolution. I have various email accounts which have been set up succsesfully except a Yahoo account. All parameters are correct except that it keeps asking for the password. I suspect that the password db is corrupted. I have deleted the account several times all to no avail. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Error 400 with Google Calendar
Hello All, Need help please with resolving Error 400 with the Goggle Calendar. I tried Thunderbird and was unable to get the calendar to work. So I gave this app a try and email and tasks downloaded no problem. Calendar getting the 400 error. Your best advice please? Thank you, DJS ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Use of Scheme in Search Folder filters
On Sat, 2020-10-10 at 19:54 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Sat, 2020-10-10 at 09:38 +0100, David Sumbler wrote: > > Can somebody point me to an explanation of how such Scheme > > expressions in Evolution should be formed, or perhaps show me how > > (and whether) this one can be made to work? > > Hi, > I do not know whether the 'S' in 'S-Expression' means 'Scheme' (I've > been always wondering what that letter stands for, but I was also > always lazy to figure it out), but I'd rather suggest to use the Free > Form Expression. It's similar, but more user friendly, I hope. In any > case, both the GUI and the Free Form Expressions are converted into > the > S-Expression, because it's what is used in the background. The semi- > documentation for the Free Form Expression can be found here: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550796#c10 > > The S-Expression doesn't have any documentation. I'm not aware of any > at least. Pointing you into the code might not be the best thing, I > believe. > > Maybe it would worth to update the user documentation and add there > some Free Form Expression examples. Such always help. > > Bye, > Milan Thank you for your reply. I had already seen the bugzilla page you mentioned. This is rather cryptic for someone like me who doesn't have any knowledge of the search syntax to start with. But so far as I can see, using "Free Form Expression" it is not possible to compare the value in a specific header to another value, which is what I wanted to do. Perhaps it simply can't be done. I also found this: https://www.kernel.org/doc/mirror/ols2001/evolution.pdf Section 4.4 has some examples of "Expressions", but no comprehensive explanation of what is possible, and again no indication that the value comparisons that I need can be done. David ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Use of Scheme in Search Folder filters
I am trying to create a filter which, as one condition, excludes messages with a value > 5.0 in the "X-Spam-Score" header. So far as I can see, I would need to use the "Expression" option to do this. The manual says "Match a message according to an expression you write in the Scheme language used to define filters in Evolution", which seems a bit circular. I am familiar with Scheme, but there is no indication here about how the Scheme expression should be formed. For instance, what is required might be something such as "(if (> 5.0 X-Spam-Score) #f)", but that one certainly doesn't work, and there are too many other plausible possibilities simply to use trial and error. Can somebody point me to an explanation of how such Scheme expressions in Evolution should be formed, or perhaps show me how (and whether) this one can be made to work? David ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Archive
Is there any practical/usability limit to the number of emails in the archive folder? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to change Email Account Order
I am running Evolution 3.30.5-1.1 On a Debian system. In prior versions II was able to set the account order by dragging and dropping accounts eitehr on the account/folder window or by editing the accounts. Since upgrading account order appears to be alphabetical by name. Is there a way to change this and arrange accounts as I prefer ? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to automatically obtain PGP keys for e-mail recipients? (key discovery)
To follow up on this issue: Since GnuPG version 2.2.19 (included in Debian Backports [1]) this issue is resolved [2]. Thank you Milan for guiding me through the details! [1]: https://backports.debian.org/ [2]: https://dev.gnupg.org/T4726#131143 Am Wednesday, den 23.10.2019, 08:19 +0200 schrieb David Hebbeker: > To follow up on this issue: The form of the e-mail address with the > angle brackets has been discussed on the gnupg-users mailing list > [1], > tested with different GnuPG versions and a bug report [2] has > beencreated. > > [1]: > https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2019-October/062932. > html > [2]: https://dev.gnupg.org/T4726 > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Not downloading all mail
Thanks for the heads up. Dave On Dec 10, 2019, 2:49 PM, at 2:49 PM, Christopher Marlow wrote: >> > > On Tue, 2019-12-10 at 09:54 -0500, Dave Olson via evolution-list >wrote: > >On Tue, 2019-12-10 at 13:15 -0500, Dave Olson via evolution-list wrote: >> Thanks for your response Patrick, >> >> Evolution 3.34.1-2 Under Ubuntu Mate' 19.10 >> >> The accounts are all POP3 >> >> Dave >> > >Before one of the email vetrans jumps on you, I just want to let you >know that you're suppose to reply at the bottom of the message and not >top post. > > >-- > >~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >Thanks, >Chris >chris(@)cwm030.com > >Ubuntu 19.10 >KDE >Evolution 3.34.1-2 >IMAP account > >___ >evolution-list mailing list >evolution-list@gnome.org >To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... >https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Problems with POP3 with UTF-8 (RFC 6856)
On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 12:12 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2019-11-21 at 23:54 +0100, Peter Dons Tychsen via evolution- > list wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-11-21 at 23:50 +0100, Peter Dons Tychsen wrote: > > > 1) Is this bogus, or is Evolution missing support for this POP3 > > > feature > > > extension ? > > > > > > 2) If its not bogus, will it be supported? > > > > > > 3) If it is bogus, why do i get this warning/message? Any way > > > around > > > it? > > Hi, > I do not know how much bogus it is. I do not recall seeing this message > before. It's surely done by the server. > > I do not see any usage of "UTF8" command or reading the capability of > the same name in the current development sources of the POP3 provider, > thus it's not currently recognized, neither used. See RFC5721. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to automatically obtain PGP keys for e-mail recipients? (key discovery)
To follow up on this issue: The form of the e-mail address with the angle brackets has been discussed on the gnupg-users mailing list [1], tested with different GnuPG versions and a bug report [2] has beencreated. [1]: https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2019-October/062932. html [2]: https://dev.gnupg.org/T4726 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to automatically obtain PGP keys for e-mail recipients? (key discovery)
On Mon, 2019-10-14 at 22:00 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > The manual says to "use the left/right angles for exact matches on > email address", not really that being a "usual use" (I understand the > two as different things). Right! > Unfortunately, I do not know how to debug whether the GnuPG tried to > fetch the address, maybe it did, but left there the angles, which > could result in "key not found" response from the key server. I do not know if it did send an actual request to the key server. I did the search for the string including the angle brackets through the web interface of the key server I use and it found the key I was searching for. This might be an indication that GnuPG did not accept the statement of the user ID with angle brackets. > I'd suggest you to start a discussion on the GnuPG side. They may > shed some light on this. I will. Do you know what is the most appropriate way? Next to the bug tracker they have several mailing lists. But first I am going to try a newer version of GnuPG. The one on Debian "strech" is quite old. David signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to automatically obtain PGP keys for e-mail recipients? (key discovery)
Hello Milan, On Mon, 2019-10-14 at 14:56 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > You can change the /usr/bin/gpg with a script which will log how it > is called [1], to see the difference, if any. This is a good idea. And indeed I was able to spot something interesting! So the call recorded is (modifications applied): gpg --verbose --no-secmem-warning --no-greeting --no-tty \ --batch --yes --encrypt --armor --always-trust \ -u 6CBE7F49 -r "" -r 6CBE7F49 \ --output - Please note that I have prefixed the raw log with "gpg" and I had to quote the email address as else the angles would be recognized as redirectors. Also I had to remove `--status-fd=68` for testing. When I call the above I get the following error: gpg: : skipped: No public key With trial and error I found that this works: gpg --verbose --no-secmem-warning --no-greeting --no-tty \ --batch --yes --encrypt --armor --always-trust \ -u 6CBE7F49 -r "edward...@fsf.org" -r 6CBE7F49 \ --output - Note: The only difference is that I have removed the *angle brackets* on the email address! I was able to reproduce the behavior above with a minimal set of arguments. The only difference are the angle brackets. I also tried with backslashes instead of quotes to escape the angles; no difference. So I checked: I have not given angle brackets in the GUI of the Evolution email composer. They have been added by Evolution. Also in the manual of GnuPG it specified to usually use left and right angles for used IDs [5]. So Evolution does apply the specified gpg interface. It seems like there is a bug in GnuPG 2.1.18 which has not been fully resolved [6]? Thanks David [5]: https://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/Specify-a-User-I D.html [6]: https://dev.gnupg.org/T1927 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to automatically obtain PGP keys for e-mail recipients? (key discovery)
Hi Milan, thank you for your message. On Mon, 2019-10-14 at 09:29 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 11:38 +0200, David Hebbeker wrote: > > *How can I configure my system such as when I compose an e-mail the > > PGP key for the recipients are automatically retrieved from key > > servers and added to my keyring?* > > As long as you've configured gpg through its .conf file it should be > working. I configured gpg through my configuration file [4] and tested the settings using gpg directly in terminal. > Maybe except when correct gpg is called. The libcamel can still call > both gpg1 and gpg2, there's a setting for it in GSettings [1]. I used dconf-editor to set the binary path explicitly to the one used in terminal. org.gnome.evolution-data-server.camel-gpg-binary This had no effect. > The arguments being passed to the gpg are mentioned here [2]. Which > are used depends on the actual action. The encrypt part adds these > arguments [3] to those common. I checked the arguments compiled by gpg_ctx_get_argv (assuming `passwd_fd == -1` and `gpg->mode == GPG_CTX_MODE_ENCRYPT`). And tried the resulting command successfully: gpg --verbose --no-secmem-warning --no-greeting --no-tty \ --batch --yes --always-trust --encrypt --recipient \ edward...@fsf.org -u 6CBE7F49 --output - msg.txt Is there any other possibility why the ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf [4] might not be used by libcamel? Thanks, David [4]: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2019-October/txtb2m foIm28_.txt signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to automatically obtain PGP keys for e-mail recipients? (key discovery)
Using Evolution 3.22.6 and GnuPG 2.1.18 is installed on the system. *How can I configure my system such as when I compose an e-mail the PGP key for the recipients are automatically retrieved from key servers and added to my keyring?* For example when I try to send an e-mail to a recipient, which is not in my keyring I get the following error message: gpg: : skipped: No public key In case I run - outside of Evolution - gpg --encrypt --recipient edward...@fsf.org msg.txt a key is successfully found and added to my keyring. Is there any way to tell Evolution to deal with the search? The only message I found on that topic in the archives [1] is about automatically retrieving keys for signature verification. This question has already been asked on Stack Exchange [2] but not been answered. I have the impression from this manual [3] that this work-flow is supported by Thunderbird with Enigmail. [1]: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2007-January/msg000 07.html [2]: https://superuser.com/q/1491132 [3]: https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/#step-3b# Used for encryption auto-key-locate keyserver # Used for verifying signatures auto-key-retrieve signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] FoxitReader ghost
On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 15:08 +, Reid Thompson via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 10:52 -0400, David Burleigh via evolution-list > wrote: > > [EXTERNAL SOURCE] On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 10:42 -0400, Adam Tauno > > Williams wrote: > > > > I did the same search in /usr/share/applications and there is > > > > noinstance*foxit* there, and I removed "display- > > > > im6.q16.desktop" also, whichmade no difference. > > > > > > All this sits on top of XDG, so it should be a ".desktop" > > > filesomewhere. > > > Official locations > > > are:/usr/share/applications//usr/local/share/applications/~/.loca > > > l/share/applications/ > > > > Well, this is quite a mystery, because there's no trace of foxit in > > any ofthose folders. > > just asking, are you grep'ing case insensitve for Foxit/foxit > $ rg -i foxit > .local/share/applications/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list13:a > pplication/pdf=FoxitReader.desktop14:application/ppdf=FoxitReader.des > ktop15:application/octet-stream=FoxitReader.desktop > .local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache3:application/octet- > stream=FoxitReader.desktop;5:application/pdf=FoxitReader.desktop;wine > -extension-pdf.desktop; > .local/share/applications/FoxitReader.desktop2:Name=Foxit > Reader10:Icon=FoxitReader11:Exec=/home/rthompso/opt/foxitsoftware/fox > itreader/FoxitReader.sh %F Here are some more "hits" found by grep: .local/share/mime/application/pdf.xml: FoxitReader Document.local/share/mime/application/ppdf.xml: Fox itReader Document.local/share/mime/packages/FoxitReader.xml:FoxitReader Document.local/share/mime/packages/FoxitReader.xml:FoxitReader Document These files are created by update-mime-database, but where does it get itsinformation? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] FoxitReader ghost
On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 15:08 +, Reid Thompson via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 10:52 -0400, David Burleigh via evolution-list > wrote: > > [EXTERNAL SOURCE] On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 10:42 -0400, Adam Tauno > > Williams wrote: > > > > I did the same search in /usr/share/applications and there is > > > > noinstance*foxit* there, and I removed "display- > > > > im6.q16.desktop" also, whichmade no difference. > > > > > > All this sits on top of XDG, so it should be a ".desktop" > > > filesomewhere. > > > Official locations > > > are:/usr/share/applications//usr/local/share/applications/~/.loca > > > l/share/applications/ > > > > Well, this is quite a mystery, because there's no trace of foxit in > > any ofthose folders. > > just asking, are you grep'ing case insensitve for Foxit/foxit > $ rg -i foxit > .local/share/applications/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list13:a > pplication/pdf=FoxitReader.desktop14:application/ppdf=FoxitReader.des > ktop15:application/octet-stream=FoxitReader.desktop > .local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache3:application/octet- > stream=FoxitReader.desktop;5:application/pdf=FoxitReader.desktop;wine > -extension-pdf.desktop; > .local/share/applications/FoxitReader.desktop2:Name=Foxit > Reader10:Icon=FoxitReader11:Exec=/home/rthompso/opt/foxitsoftware/fox > itreader/FoxitReader.sh %F But... zerubbabel@dz:~$ grep -r -i foxit .local/share/applications/.local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:appl ication/pdf=FoxitReader.desktop;.local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cach e:application/ppdf=FoxitReader.desktop;:~$ Deleting references to FoxitReader.desktop in.local/share/application/defaults.list still did not get rid of the FoxIt Reader ghost in Evolution... ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] FoxitReader ghost
On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 15:08 +, Reid Thompson via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 10:52 -0400, David Burleigh via evolution-list wrote: > > [EXTERNAL SOURCE] > > > > On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 10:42 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > > I did the same search in /usr/share/applications and there is no > > > > instance > > > > *foxit* there, and I removed "display-im6.q16.desktop" also, which > > > > made no difference. > > > > > > All this sits on top of XDG, so it should be a ".desktop" file > > > somewhere. > > > > > > Official locations are: > > > /usr/share/applications/ > > > /usr/local/share/applications/ > > > ~/.local/share/applications/ > > > > Well, this is quite a mystery, because there's no trace of foxit in any of > > those folders. > > > > just asking, are you grep'ing case insensitve for Foxit/foxit > > $ rg -i foxit .local/share/applications/ > .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list > 13:application/pdf=FoxitReader.desktop > 14:application/ppdf=FoxitReader.desktop > 15:application/octet-stream=FoxitReader.desktop > > .local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache > 3:application/octet-stream=FoxitReader.desktop; > 5:application/pdf=FoxitReader.desktop;wine-extension-pdf.desktop; > > .local/share/applications/FoxitReader.desktop > 2:Name=Foxit Reader > 10:Icon=FoxitReader > 11:Exec=/home/rthompso/opt/foxitsoftware/foxitreader/FoxitReader.sh %F Hmmm... zerubbabel@dz:~$ grep -r -i foxit .local/share/applications/ .local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:application/pdf=FoxitReader.desktop; .local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache:application/ppdf=FoxitReader.desktop; .local/share/applications/defaults.list:application/pdf=org.gnome.Evince.desktop;FoxitReader.desktop .local/share/applications/defaults.list:application/ppdf=FoxitReader.desktop zerubbabel@dz:~$ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] FoxitReader ghost
On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 10:42 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > I did the same search in /usr/share/applications and there is > > noinstance*foxit* there, and I removed "display-im6.q16.desktop" > > also, whichmade no difference. > > All this sits on top of XDG, so it should be a ".desktop" > filesomewhere. > Official locations > are:/usr/share/applications//usr/local/share/applications/~/.local/sh > are/applications/ Maybe this is useful: zerubbabel@dz:~$ xdg-mime query default image/pdfdisplay-im6.q16.desktopzerubbabel@dz:~$ xdg-mime query default application/pdforg.gnome.Evince.desktopzerub babel@dz:~$ I don't know what "display-im6.q16.desktop" points to. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] FoxitReader ghost
On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 10:42 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > I did the same search in /usr/share/applications and there is no > > instance > > *foxit* there, and I removed "display-im6.q16.desktop" also, which > > made no difference. > > All this sits on top of XDG, so it should be a ".desktop" file > somewhere. > > Official locations are: > /usr/share/applications/ > /usr/local/share/applications/ > ~/.local/share/applications/ Well, this is quite a mystery, because there's no trace of foxit in any of those folders. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] FoxitReader ghost
On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 08:26 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 04:28 -0400, David Burleigh via evolution-list > wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 09:58 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list > > wrote: > > > On Wed, 2019-04-17 at 09:37 -0400, David Burleigh via evolution- > > > list wrote: > > > > gio mime application/pdf > > > Evolution relies on the data returned from glib's gio, which might > > > be > > > quite the same as what you see from the above command. I've no idea > > > where it gets it from. Does the list of available applications > > > shown in > > > Evolution match the list returned from `git mime`? Could there be a > > > leftover Foxit .desktop file (not necessarily named foxit.desktop) > > > in the system? What about that pdfarranger.desktop or > > > display-im6.q16.desktop? Those look suspicious/custom. > > "pdfarranger.desktop" is legitimate (the new name for pdfshuffler), > > but I can't find "display-im6.q16.desktop" anywhere in my home > > directory, > > > using: find . -name *.desktop > > Why would you expect to find it in your home directory? It should be > in /usr/share/applications the contents of which should be managed by > the package(s). I did the same search in /usr/share/applications and there is no instance *foxit* there, and I removed "display-im6.q16.desktop" also, which made no difference. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] FoxitReader ghost
On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 09:58 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2019-04-17 at 09:37 -0400, David Burleigh via evolution- > listwrote: > > gio mime application/pdf > > Hi,Evolution relies on the data returned from glib's gio, which > might bequite the same as what you see from the above command. I've > no ideawhere it gets it from. Does the list of available applications > shown inEvolution match the list returned from `git mime`? Could > there be aleftover Foxit .desktop file (not necessarily named > foxit.desktop) inthe system? What about that pdfarranger.desktop > ordisplay-im6.q16.desktop? Those look suspicious/custom. Bye, > Milan "pdfarranger.desktop" is legitimate (the new name for pdfshuffler), but I can't find "display-im6.q16.desktop" anywhere in my home directory, using: find . -name *.desktop ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] FoxitReader ghost
On Wed, 2019-04-17 at 08:01 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2019-04-17 at 05:10 -0400, David Burleigh via evolution- > listwrote: > > Why does Evolution still show "FoxitReader Document attachment" > > forpdf attachments after I've removed FoxitReader from my > > (Ubuntu)system and the default pdf viewer is Evince? When I open > > the pdfattachment it uses Evince, so why does it mention "Foxit > > Reader"? > > What does "gvfs-mime --query application/pdf" show? > > There is not even any mention of "Foxit Reader" > > in'.config/mimeapps.list' > > Stop poking around in files; use the tools. (It says "gvfs-mime" is deprecated, so...) zerubbabel@dz:~$ gio mime application/pdfDefault application for “application/pdf”: atril.desktopRegistered applications:atril.d esktop inkscape.desktoppdfarranger.desktop libreoffice- draw.desktopgimp.desktoplibreoffice6.0-draw.desktop display -im6.q16.desktopRecommended applications: atril.desktop inkscap e.desktop pdfarranger.desktop libreoffice-draw.desktop gimp.desktoplibreoffice6.0-draw.desktop display-im6.q16.desktopzerubbabel@dz:~$ (There is no sign of "Foxit" yet Evolution still says "FoxitReader Document attachment" for pdfs. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] FoxitReader ghost
Why does Evolution still show "FoxitReader Document attachment" for pdf attachments after I've removed FoxitReader from my (Ubuntu) system and the default pdf viewer is Evince? When I open the pdf attachment it uses Evince, so why does it mention "Foxit Reader"? There is not even any mention of "Foxit Reader" in '.config/mimeapps.list' ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Selective Plain Text
On Mon, 2019-04-08 at 20:27 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Mon, 2019-04-08 at 14:14 -0400, David Burleigh via evolution-list > wrote: > > It would be so helpful if I could flag certain addresses and/or > > domains > > to which I always want to send plain-text emails, rather than HTML. > > I see a "Wants to receive HTML mail" checkbox in the Contacts editor. > > andre > -- > Andre Klapper | > ak...@gmx.net > > https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ > But that's the opposite of what I need. If my default setting were plain text, then I guess that would flag a particular address as preferring HTML, but not vice-versa. As it is, my default setting is HTML, and none of my contacts have that "Wants to receive HTML mail" checked, but that doesn't result in them receiving plain text. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Selective Plain Text
It would be so helpful if I could flag certain addresses and/or domains to which I always want to send plain-text emails, rather than HTML. Is there any way to do this now? And if not, I'd like to suggest it as an enhancement. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [EXTERNAL]Re: Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?
That is correct - the OP meant incoming email. I came to rely on it heavily with the Boomerang plugin and also, for my personal email, with gmail snooze. However, I've switched to using the create task or create appointment function. Changes my workflow a bit, but it does the job. On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 15:14 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 09:06 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > Aside: A way does exist to do this, manually. Compose the message > > and > > save-to-draft, don't send. Then one can go the Drafts folder, open > > the > > message, and send it at any given time. I personally use the > > Drafts > > feature frequently. > > I think the OP meant snooze applied to incoming messages. At least in > the case of Gmail, that's what it does. The mail is effectively > deferred until a later time, and then shows up in the Inbox. It's > still > visible of course, so the deferment is a scheduled activity that just > changes its status. As you say, there's no standard way of doing this > and I can see it being a mess to implement in a robust way. > > But isn't that what Tasks are for? On receiving the mail, use it to > create a Task. That seems to cover the use case as far as I can see. > Maybe there's a case for creating a quick way to do this and calling > it > Snooze. > > poc > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.gnome.org_mailman_listinfo_evolution-2Dlist=DwICAg=SAbiaX0r7qzgR-m0orrYZqJBC6x6dhYqv2k9zfIfhj4=WKYDpvK91PHpzn2PwDnlNg=vsATT1HIPHXEwmkiMXnfLz9SWDXSKJ0p9ZMiXyhzKhA=cUOaiXW2M_Thj4B3LB8VAQ-EvQeB--H-sAXH_u7dtxo= ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?
I'm using evolution on RHEL Workstation 7.6, attaching to office365 with EWS. Working great but there is one function in particular I miss from my Boomerang plugin with Outlook Web Access: snooze. I've not found any good list of plugins beyond what comes with Evolution. Does anyone know of such a list and/or, in particular, know of a plugin that will let me "snooze" or "defer" an email to a later time? -- David Lewis ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Where did my Memos go?
Somewhere along the way all of my Memos disappeared, or at least are not being displayed, though if I open "~.local/share/evolution/memos/systemjournal.ics" with a text editor I can see the information. But it is not displayed in Evolution. How can I recover from this apparent loss? I'm running Evolution 3.28.5-1 under Debian Testing.___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Plain Text by Account
Is it possible to cause mail sent from a certain account to default to plain text rather than HTML? I can only find a way to do it for all messages composed, but I only want it to be the default for one account.___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Compiling on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
On Tue, 2018-04-10 at 15:25 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2018-04-10 at 20:36 +0200, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > > An alternative is to just use a distro with better support for > > Evolution (e.g. Fedora), which also meets your VMware requirement. > OTOH Ubuntu *may* improve general Gnome support in the future now > that it has abandoned Unity. > > > > Just for clarity: it's really not anything to do with Ubuntu's support > of Gnome per se. Ubuntu has always had quite good support for Gnome; > it just wasn't the default desktop in the past. It was easy to get > though. > > The problem is that the OP wants to use an LTS release. Suggesting > Fedora doesn't meet that requirement; if they wanted to use a rolling > or non-LTS distro they could also choose Ubuntu 17.10 for example which > has Gnome 3.26 right now. As you point out, waiting a few weeks will > get them a new LTS distro with the Gnome 3.28 release. > > There ARE issues with Evolution on Ubuntu but they're not directly > related to GNOME support. Basically, Ubuntu chose Thunderbird, not > Evolution, as the main Ubuntu mail client. In practice that means > Evolution doesn't get updated during a release cycle. So for example, > right now the version of Evolution available in Ubuntu 17.10 (latest > release ATM) is only 3.26.1 which has a number of known bugs which have > been fixed in later 3.26.x point releases. Ubuntu doesn't package the > Evolution point releases, so you pretty much jump from an X.1 point > release to the X+1.1 point release, never getting the X.2, X.3, etc. > bugfix releases. > > It's possible the LTS releases are better about this, I'm not sure. > > At some point I'd like to engage the Ubuntu devs about this and see if > we can do better, but for now that's the way things are. > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > mailto:evolution-list@gnome.org;>evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > href="https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list;>https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > Well, for what it's worth, I'm running Evolution 3.28 on Debian Testing with the Cinnamon Desktop and it runs very well, as did Evolution 3.26 before it. I can't say enough good about Debian Testing w/Cinnamon. I've been running it for about six months now, and it's been rock solid. I switched to it because I wanted to run Evolution 3.26, and haven't been disappointed with either Debian or Evolution.___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Passwords
On Sat, 2018-04-07 at 18:55 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2018-04-07 at 18:55 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Good rotating passwords, that don't follow a method, are hard to > > remember. Writing down those passwords isn't good either. It's a > > dilemma. > > Use a password manager which can generate log random passwords and > remember them for you. I use LastPass but there are several others. > Note that not all of them work on Linux (which LP does). > > poc > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Thanks for the information, I'm at a dead end at present. I've loaded seahorse onto my desk PC and it works fine, I cannot get seahorse on to my laptop, unable to update was part of the reason I replaced the hard drive and started again. I've got the old laptop hard drive, as a secondary drive, working in my desk PC. Where should I go looking, with seahorse, to find the passwords? Thank you, David. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Passwords
On Sat, 2018-04-07 at 17:17 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 07 Apr 2018 15:35:36 +0100, David wrote: > >I am going to upgrade the hard disk in my laptop, I currently have > >Evolution 3.22.6, I have just backed up my data. > > > >I know restoring the backup does not restore the passwords, where are > >the passwords stored so I can see if I can view them? > > From command line run > > seahorse > > double-click on an "Evolution Data Source" thingy, related to one of > your email adresses. Click the keyhole icon or whatever the icon on the > left side of the Password input field does look like and the password > is shown in plain human readable text. > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Thanks Ralf, I'll have a go with seahorse. I confess, some of the passwords I've got written down, some I haven’t. David. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Passwords
Hello, I am going to upgrade the hard disk in my laptop, I currently have Evolution 3.22.6, I have just backed up my data. I know restoring the backup does not restore the passwords, where are the passwords stored so I can see if I can view them? thank you, David. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Gnome evolution and RFC 6186
On Tue, 2018-04-03 at 07:30 +0100, André Rodier via desktop-devel-list wrote: > Hello all, > > I hope I am posting on the right mailing list. I am working on a project > that installs an email server from scratch. > > I am setting up DNS records for email services automatic discovery (RFC > 6186) but it seems that evolution is ignoring them. You might do better on the evolution mailing list (now in Cc), or just bugzilla. > However, something is definitely working, as my domain is hosted on > Gandi, and the automatic settings come back with Gandi IMAP/SMTP > records, even if I don't use Gandi to host emails. > > What is the logic used by evolution to automatically discover email > parameters? I don't think Evolution ever got RFC6186 support. See discussion at https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/tree/src/mail/e-mail-autoconfig.c#n18 It might make a decent GSoC project. It would also be useful to delegate the various protocols' autodiscover mechanisms to the back ends, instead of having protocol-specific knowledge for EWS, ActiveSync, IMAP and other stuff hard-coded into Evolution itself. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] EWS NTLM auth not working
On Tue, 2018-02-06 at 22:06 +0100, j...@centrum.cz wrote: > Hello, > > I spent a little more time investigating the issue. I took a look in > to the source code of libsoup and I think it calls winbind's > ntlm_auth binary without password with the --use-cached-creds option > only. And if that does not work, it makes some own computations. I am > no programmer, so I might be wrong. Nevertheless, I tried to join the > domain and login with pam_winbind to be able to use the cached > credentials. I tried to call ntlm_auth manually and it worked and so > did login in Evolution. I think that libsoup itself might not > actually support NTLMv2, maybe just NTLM2, or the implementation is > broken. Anyway, I post it for information. If there would be anyone > willing to take a look on this, I would appreciate. Using Thunderbird > with EWS plugin for calendars is rather difficult. Can you clarify please? If you use ntlm_auth for single-sign-on, it works? If you use Kerberos (which you should), it works? The only case that doesn't work is when you *don't* use ntlm_auth (because you've moved it out of the way or because winbindd does have creds), and libsoup attempts to do the authentication for itself using a password that you provide manually? I'd like to see the NTLM exchanges in both working and failing cases, please. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Annoying double-click behavior
On Wed, 2018-01-31 at 10:41 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Tue, 2018-01-30 at 06:53 -0500, David Burleigh wrote: > > Ok, any idea when GTK version 4 will be released? > > Hi, > it's not only about it. Evolution uses gtk+ 3 and moving to gtk+ 4 > requires a lot of work, not talking about its dependencies, which > should be ported first. > > Thus do not count that once gtk+ 4 is out (its latest release is > 3.93.0 > from the end of the last year), Evolution will use it immediately. > > You may better (find or) file a bug against gtk+ 3 in GNOME bugzilla > [1]. > I am able to reproduce the issue in gtk3-demo->Pickers->File too, > thus > it's clearly their bug. > > Bye, > Milan > > [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=gtk%2B > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Never mind that last question. Obviously it's the one I have installed, 3.20.x___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Annoying double-click behavior
On Wed, 2018-01-31 at 10:41 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Tue, 2018-01-30 at 06:53 -0500, David Burleigh wrote: > > Ok, any idea when GTK version 4 will be released? > > Hi, > it's not only about it. Evolution uses gtk+ 3 and moving to gtk+ 4 > requires a lot of work, not talking about its dependencies, which > should be ported first. > > Thus do not count that once gtk+ 4 is out (its latest release is > 3.93.0 > from the end of the last year), Evolution will use it immediately. > > You may better (find or) file a bug against gtk+ 3 in GNOME bugzilla > [1]. > I am able to reproduce the issue in gtk3-demo->Pickers->File too, > thus > it's clearly their bug. > > Bye, > Milan > > [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=gtk%2B > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Which version of gtk3 should I select when I file the bug? I'm running Evolution 3.26.3-1___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Annoying double-click behavior
On Tue, 2018-01-30 at 11:29 +, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Tue, 2018-01-30 at 05:46 -0500, David Burleigh wrote: > > I don't know whether this is a bug or a feature, but it is > > annoying > > that when browsing for a file to attach, Evolution seems to > > respond > > to the double-click action by both opening the selected folder and > > attaching the first file within that folder, when the obvious > > intention is just to open the folder and then wait for the user to > > select a file within that folder. > > The file chooser is provided by GTK and not by Evolution. > There is nothing that Evolution can do about it. > In GTK version 4 this behavior will change, as far as I know. > > andre Ok, any idea when GTK version 4 will be released?___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Annoying double-click behavior
I don't know whether this is a bug or a feature, but it is annoying that when browsing for a file to attach, Evolution seems to respond to the double-click action by both opening the selected folder and attaching the first file within that folder, when the obvious intention is just to open the folder and then wait for the user to select a file within that folder. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Inbox Glitch
On Fri, 2017-12-29 at 11:28 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Thu, 2017-12-28 at 15:23 -0500, David Burleigh wrote: > > Just today, for no obvious reason, Evolution stopped showing the > > unread incoming messages. It shows the number of unread messages, > > but > > they are not included in the message list. If I right click on the > > Inbox folder and choose "Mark all messages as read" then the new > > messages appear in the message list as unread messages. I did not > > notice any Evolution-related updates in the set of updates I > > installed this morning. > > https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-cannot-see.html > > Cheers, > andre It was a simple thing. Somehow, without realizing it, I must have moused over the Show pulldown list and inadvertently changed it to "Read messages". I've never even noticed that pulldown list, after using Evolution for almost a year now. Amazing what your eyes can filter out.___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Inbox Glitch
Just today, for no obvious reason, Evolution stopped showing the unread incoming messages. It shows the number of unread messages, but they are not included in the message list. If I right click on the Inbox folder and choose "Mark all messages as read" then the new messages appear in the message list as unread messages. I did not notice any Evolution-related updates in the set of updates I installed this morning. I'm running Evolution 3.26.2-1 on Debian Testing, with all updates applied.___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fetch PGP Public keys from LDAP?
On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 09:08 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 18:32 -0500, David Burleigh wrote: > > What I'm really after is away to simplify and nearly automate the > > use > > of pgp encryption for emails within our organization. Already we > > have > > the robust mail clients like Evolution, Thunderbird, and Outlook > > (for > > Windows users) access our common LDAP service for our > > organizational > > contacts, so it would be convenient to have everyone's public key > > hosted there also, and automatically used to encrypt mail to them. > > [again: ~26+ years experience] > > We used to do the same - use LDAP as a contacts backend between > diverse > clients. The problem is that such a solution is a potent example of > LDC (least common denominator) behavior. Beyond very basic > functionality like name-and-email you can't get much; you certainly > will not be able to get all the clients to inter-operate getting > encryption keys from the addressbook - it just isn't going to > happen. > I know, when you set it up it seems like you are 99.44% of the way > there to a good collaboration solution [essentially what we used to > call "groupware"] - but that 0.56% is a big deal - and LDAP cannot > deliver it. > > See a very old presentation of mine - http://www.wmmi.net/documents/ > LDA > P105.pdf - concerning how even the basic schema used by Evolution, > Thunderbird, and WAB [Outlook] don't match up across clients. :( > > Any notion that 'the world' would settle on a standard LDAP schema, > and > any notion that 'the world' had a genuine interest in real inter- > operability, is now dusty history. Hyper-proprietary "cloud" > services > [called them "SaaS" back when I was wee lad] have crushed any > momentum > that existed concerning standards; or at least any standards that > don't > suit their purposes. > > You get closest to what you want using a WebDAV (CardDAV) server. > Even then advanced features like key sharing are iffy. > > There are very pragmatic reasons that, eventually, almost all > organizations standardize on a specific client. > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Sigh... That is certainly true about trying to find a solution that works for diverse clients. Well, perhaps if we can get everyone to switch to Linux, then we can make Evolution our common email client, but that's a big undertaking in itself...___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fetch PGP Public keys from LDAP?
The mail server for internal communication rejects all traffic other than its particular domain, so for this particular purpose we're not concerned with outside traffic. On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 23:57 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 18:32 -0500, David Burleigh wrote: > > What I'm really after is away to simplify and nearly automate the > > use of pgp encryption for emails within our organization. Already > > we have the robust mail clients like Evolution, Thunderbird, and > > Outlook (for Windows users) access our common LDAP service for our > > organizational contacts, so it would be convenient to have > > everyone's public key hosted there also, and automatically used to > > encrypt mail to them. > > [Please don't top-post on the list] > > Is there any reason you can't use one of the usual keyservers (e.g. > pgp.mit.edu) or is that against corporate policy? Note that your > internal LDAP server will probably not be accessible to > correspondents > outside the organisation (even if there were a standard way to do > this), which reduces the potential benefits of encrypted email. > > poc > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fetch PGP Public keys from LDAP?
What I'm really after is away to simplify and nearly automate the use of pgp encryption for emails within our organization. Already we have the robust mail clients like Evolution, Thunderbird, and Outlook (for Windows users) access our common LDAP service for our organizational contacts, so it would be convenient to have everyone's public key hosted there also, and automatically used to encrypt mail to them. On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 00:11 +0100, Ángel wrote: > On 2017-12-06 at 09:26 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 14:50 +0100, Ángel wrote: > > > On 2017-12-05 at 19:31 -0500, David Burleigh wrote: > > > > Is it possible to have Evolution fetch someone's PGP public > > > > key > > > > from an LDAP server and use it automatically to encrypt mail > > > > for > > > > that recipient? It would be nice if PGP public keys could be > > > > stored > > > > in Evolution Contact records and used automatically for > > > > encrypting > > > > mail sent to such contacts. > > > > > > GPG supports fetching keys from LDAP keyservers, so you might be > > > able > > > to get the functionality by setting auto-key-locate keyserver- > > > URL. > > > > True - with the caveat that LDAP (port 389) is likely to be > > blocked > > across boundaries [firewalls] in a lot of environments. > > heh. If he wants to fetch data from LDAP, he better doesn't have a > firewall blocking it ;) > > > > With keyserver-URL method you specify a url to the ldap server you > want > to query (eg. your company LDAP). Alternatively, you could set that > as > your default keyserver, and specify just keyserver for auto-key- > locate. > > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fetch PGP Public keys from LDAP?
Ok, thank you, I had not noticed that provision in the Certificates tab. I'll experiment with that. On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 13:04 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Tue, 2017-12-05 at 19:31 -0500, David Burleigh wrote: > > Is it possible to have Evolution fetch someone's PGP public key > > from > > an LDAP server and use it automatically to encrypt mail for that > > recipient? It would be nice if PGP public keys could be stored in > > Evolution Contact records and used automatically for encrypting > > mail > > sent to such contacts. > > Hi, > depending on your version, the contact editor has a tab called > "Certificates", where one can add/edit/remove PGP and S/MIME > certificates for the contact. How much this is connected to an LDAP > storage I do not know. It depends what attribute your server uses. A > brief look into the LDAP code it uses "userCertificate" attribute > for > X.509 certificates. It doesn't try to extract PGP keys from the LDAP > server. You might want to file an enhancement request in GNOME > bugzilla > for it. [1] > > Unfortunately, these certificates are not used when > signing/encrypting. > There's filled [2] for it. > > Bye, > Milan > > [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=evolution-data- > server > [2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=704246 > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Fetch PGP Public keys from LDAP?
Is it possible to have Evolution fetch someone's PGP public key from an LDAP server and use it automatically to encrypt mail for that recipient? It would be nice if PGP public keys could be stored in Evolution Contact records and used automatically for encrypting mail sent to such contacts.___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] events list in mail view
This feature was added in version 3.26. On Tue, 2017-11-14 at 17:29 -0600, Jared wrote: > Hello, all. I very recently switched to Evolution because of my need to > use Office 365 for calendaring and contacts at work, and Thunderbird + > Lightning + davmail just isn't cutting. I've spent some time > configuring and tweaking it to my needs and have it working well at this > point. I really appreciate all the work that's been put into this, > especially the EWS component, which so many other projects struggle with > or just outright ignore. > > The one Thunderbird feature I really miss at this point is having a list > of upcoming events as a sidebar in the mail view. I took a screenshot > in case I'm not describing it well: > > https://www.legroom.net/public/tbird-events.png > > This let's me easily keep an eye on upcoming meetings without leaving my > mail. I'm pretty sure this type of view is available in the Outlook > client as well, so this isn't something unique to Thunderbird or > Lightning. As things stand now with Evolution I'm fairly constantly > switching to my calendar view to see what's coming up, which is kind of > driving me crazy. :-) > > Is there any way to add a sidebar like this to the mail view in > Evolution? Some configuration item I've overlooked, or maybe a plugin > or something that I haven't found? I spent some time searching, but > haven't been able to find anything specifically about this. > > Appreciate any guidance. Thanks. > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Task List
Well, I was thinking of tasks that are "whenever I can get to it" rather than with a deadline. I'll submit an enhancement request. On Thu, 2017-10-05 at 18:07 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Thu, 2017-10-05 at 11:30 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > > I was delighted with the improvement in version 3.26 that includes > > the "To Do" column in the vertical view. Is there any way to > > include > > the task list in the same column? > > Hi, > it shows only either overdue tasks or tasks with set Due Date on the > respective day in the To Do bar. What tasks you'd like to see there > too, with a Start Date before or at the respective days? I would not > include tasks without either of the two. > > Feel free to file an enhancement request to GNOME bugzilla [1], it > would be good to have a reference and a history for such change. > Bye, > Milan > > [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=evolution > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Task List
I was delighted with the improvement in version 3.26 that includes the "To Do" column in the vertical view. Is there any way to include the task list in the same column?___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Automatization Outlook Users migrations to Evolution
When I switched from Ubuntu-based Linux Mint to Debian Testing I was delighted to find that Evolution 3.22 was included, and since then it was updated to 3.24 and now 3.26. It was a bit of work to get everything installed on Debian that I was used to running on Mint, but I learned a lot in the process and now I have a very fast and stable system. On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 18:31 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 07:55 -0500, Len Philpot wrote: > > > the 3.18.5 is truly old. There had been added some > > > autoconfiguration > > > > That's the version in the *buntu repositories, from what I've > > seen, > > nothing newer. It's what I'm running now. > > Hi, > I guess it's not related to the migration process, thus kind of > off-topic for this thread. > > > Is the only option for a newer version to build from source? I've > > built more than a few packages over the years, but Evolution's > > dependencies are fairly strong. Looks like a simple 47 step > > process > > :-) > > > > Is there a PPA somewhere of a more recent version? > > Right, these questions come semi-regularly on this list, mostly from > Ubuntu users, and the answer is mostly the same: ask Ubuntu > maintainers > and/or on Ubuntu forums (this applies generally for distro-specific > questions, not only for Ubuntu). There had been also answers about > some > gnome3-staging ppa or what it was, I do not recall, I do not use > Ubuntu. > > Feel free to read these two Wiki pages: > https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Building > https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Flatpak > > The first describes why the dependency on evolution-data-server is > so > tricky that "getting new Evolution" means much more than "getting > only > new Evolution". The second makes things easier, but has its > downsides > too (also described there). > Bye, > Milan > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 18:56 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > > Pidgin already depends on eds, if it would be easier, then write the > evolution module in the Pidgin code base. > > The main question is what you'd like to achieve. Either you want to > give users a chance to edit what they schedule with, including > attendees and such, or you want to create a meeting request and send it > using their mail application. The later can be done just by issuing > mailto: with referenced attachment, which would be the preconfigured > iCalendar object. The former, well, you would still prefer to create > the iCalendar, which you'd be able to pass to an ECompEditorEvent > instance where your users can do the modifications, pick correct > calendar and so on. Obviously I'd like to do whatever's most useful in the general case. For my specific needs, I definitely need the editor. All I really get from the Pidgin side is the meeting dialin information (and passcode), and an email address or two that need to be included in the invitees. So we cut and paste the dialin info into the body of the invite, then the rest of it is using Evolution's Free/Busy lookup, addressbook autocompletion, etc. When the IM/meeting system receives the invitation (because you added its special address to the invitees) it learns the time / subject / etc. that you chose and sets up the conference bridge with those details. So for my purposes I really do want to pop up the meeting *editor* with just an invitee or two and the invite body populated. That's more of an Evolution thing than an EDS thing, which means I don't necessarily already have anything in Pidgin to support it. > I can help you with some basics on the evolution side, if you want to. > I'd rather do it out of the list, can be even in bugzilla with a link > to it here, thus anyone interested can follow it or check it later. Thanks. The idea was to get an idea of which RFE to file in bugzilla, but I think it becomes "pass a partial iCal event to seed a new ECompEditorEvent instance". https://bugzilla.gnome.org/787418 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 18:26 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > Oh you really have. I've referred you to that same document before, I'm > > sure :) > No, it was me you had that argument with many years ago - hence the > mention of me in that document and an explanation of how I do > everything wrong and how I needed to be told how to set my filters up > "correctly". I ignored your advice ... Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the reminder :) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 17:23 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I don't understand that. I have Evolution filters to sort list traffic > into folders, and the folder list will show me a count of unread > messages. I do that too. In 138 mailing list folders there are 688,252 unread mails. Plus the 35,564 in my inbox :) > My default folder view is also set to Unseen. Barring bugs, I > don't see how you can miss a reply. You don't need to remember to check > for it manually. I occasionally see replies to messages that are weeks > old and I've long forgotten about. > > > > > And that's only one of the use cases I listed. There are other users > > who *never* receive the message for absolutely no fault of their own. > I'd be interested to see examples of this, other than people posting > questions *without* being on the list, but generally those who do so > are careful to mention it and ask for personal replies. The page I linked to gave examples, with bullet points. The main ones being other lists and subject experts who are relevant to a specific thread but not on this particular list. > I didn't think I was cutting anyone out, and have never been told that > it was happening. Oh you really have. I've referred you to that same document before, I'm sure :) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 16:36 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 14:01 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > I am aware that you are one of the former group, and you don't want to > > fix your filters so that they match your preferred use case for some > > reason. IIRC I never did work out why you think this peculiarity of > > yours is more important, overall, than deliberately cutting others out > > of mail threads so that they never see messages at all. > > I seem to have hit a nerve. My filters work fine and I have no problem > with duplicates. I also have no desire to "deliberately cut others out > of mail threads" but if someone doesn't notice a reply to a question > they themselves have posted because it went to the list they posted it > on and not to their personal inbox, frankly I'm not going to worry > about it. I understand that you don't have much sympathy for me when I posted to the list and didn't see the reply, and that's fair enough — but in fact I *did* remember that this problem happens on this list a lot, and keep checking the list manually for a few days. But the response actually came 11 days later, but which time I'd stopped checking. And that's only one of the use cases I listed. There are other users who *never* receive the message for absolutely no fault of their own. > I simply wondered why you were complaining about Reply-to- > List, which is widely used both here and elsewhere. It appears from > your essay on the subject that you would prefer Reply-to-List be > removed from Evolution (or its behaviour changed). I'm fine with it as > it is and will continue to use it when appropriate. Out of interest, is it that you don't *care* that you are cutting people out of the conversation — permanently, as well as merely temporarily delaying them seeing the messages as in my case — or is it that you still don't think that's what you're doing? (Thanks for *not* doing it this time, btw) If the latter, I'd be happy to update the document. I've tried very hard to include the simple use cases and factual analysis "above the cut", then put my opinion/conclusion at the bottom. > Given the number of > MUAs that don't support it, including the various web clients and TBird > (IIRC) it will probably fade away in time, as will plaintext mail and > inline quoting. I think this is a pity but frankly can't be bothered > arguing about it. I think Thunderbird does unfortunately support it too; in fact I have a vague idea that we "learned" it from Thunderbird. At least we don't do it by default though :) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 12:32 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 12:27 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > > Thanks for the response (although yes, it really did take me this long > > to notice it when you didn't actually send it to me). > > You posted your question to the list and Milan replied to the list. Why > would you expect him to reply to you directly? Common courtesy, mostly. This has been discussed before, with reference to http://david.woodhou.se/reply-to-list.html Basically, when replying one has a choice. Either you can risk a minor annoyance to some people by causing them to receive two copies of the message instead of only one — which might be slightly annoying to them if their filtering isn't set up right, but at least they've *got* the message, and it tends to err on the side of visibility (i.e. in their INBOX where they might want to fix their filters to put it in the list folder). The alternative is to risk a major annoyance to other people who are cut out of the discussion entirely, or at least for a period of time. I am aware that you are one of the former group, and you don't want to fix your filters so that they match your preferred use case for some reason. IIRC I never did work out why you think this peculiarity of yours is more important, overall, than deliberately cutting others out of mail threads so that they never see messages at all. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line
On Mon, 2017-08-21 at 17:01 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Thu, 2017-08-10 at 10:38 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > > A separate program can invoke Evolution to send an email, by > > running > > > > evolution mailto:some...@example.com?subject=blah... > > > > Is there a way to open and pre-populate a new meeting invitation, the > > same way? I'd like to put in the initial recipients and meeting > > information, then let the user finish it off and send/save it. > > Hi, > there's nothing for it, as far as I can tell. There is a URI to show > existing events/tasks/memos, or to move calendar view into certain > date, but nothing to open the component editor and prefill it with > certain values. Thanks for the response (although yes, it really did take me this long to notice it when you didn't actually send it to me). Do you think it makes most sense to add a command-line option for it, or attempt to use an EPlugin? I'm working on a Pidgin plugin for an IM/meeting system, which can currently allocate a meeting ID and pop up a window saying "cut and paste *this* template with all the dialin info, and make sure you include *these* recipients so the IM/meeting system knows about it." Obviously I'm trying to eliminate all that cutting and pasting for the user. The Windows client for this system comes with an Outlook plugin; perhaps that's the best way to do it in Evolution too? I'd have to contrive some way to ask Pidgin for the new meeting info over D-Bus, but I can probably work that out somehow. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Wrapping long lines
On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 10:06 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 04:30 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > > I'm using Evolution 3.22.6 on Debian 9.1 with the Cinnamon > > desktop. > > > > Is there a setting somewhere to wrap long lines in html-formatted > > emails? It is very tedious to have to scroll horizontally to read > > incoming messages, or even to review emails I have sent that are > > stored in the Sent folder. I have found that if I click Reply to > > such > > messages, even though I don't need to reply, the quoted lines are > > wrapped in the reply, but they're not wrapped in the preview of > > the > > original message. > > Didn't you ask this same question about a month ago. At the time > you > were pointed to a bug report: > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739955 > > And told it was fixed in a later version. That answer still applies > - > with later meaning Evo > 3.23.2 > > P. > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Yes, I did, but my own outgoing messages not being wrapped in the preview pane is a new thing since I managed to upgrade to 3.22.6 (only by switching from Mint to Debian). That wasn't happening in 3.18. I guess I have to run Debian Testing rather than Stable to get to Evolution 3.24, but I'm leary of that. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Wrapping long lines
I'm using Evolution 3.22.6 on Debian 9.1 with the Cinnamon desktop. Is there a setting somewhere to wrap long lines in html-formatted emails? It is very tedious to have to scroll horizontally to read incoming messages, or even to review emails I have sent that are stored in the Sent folder. I have found that if I click Reply to such messages, even though I don't need to reply, the quoted lines are wrapped in the reply, but they're not wrapped in the preview of the original message. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Wrapping long lines
I'd love to try a later version, that 3.18 is the latest that Linux Mint provides in its repositories, and I can't seem to find a package for a later version that will run on (essentially) Ubuntu 16.04. I could add the gnome3-staging repository but there are warnings that it will break other things. But maybe I'll try it anyway, with a Timeshift snapshot to revert to if something breaks. On Tue, 2017-08-22 at 06:57 +0200, Berend De Schouwer wrote: > On Mon, 2017-08-21 at 17:38 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > > > > I'm running Evolution 3.18 on Linux Mint 18.2 Cinnamon Edition. > > Often > > I receive html emails that have long lines of text that don't wrap, > > and it's very tedious to scroll horizontally to read them. Is there > > a > > setting somewhere that I haven't discovered that will make these > > lines wrap automatically to suit the preview panel width? > There is/was a bugreport > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739955 > > Bug is marked fixed, so I suggest trying a later evolution. > > Used to be that certain e-mails had tags, tables, etc. that > forced the mail wide. Sometimes those tags were in disclaimers. > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to install evolution-on (was: Minimise to tray?)
On Mon, 2017-08-21 at 23:18 +0100, Dominic Knight wrote: > On Sun, 2017-08-20 at 17:17 +0200, Ángel wrote: > > > > I am surprised by the number of replies saying that this is an > > Arch-specific plugin or that it only works there. > > > > It happens to be packaged for Arch. But -as expected- it can be > > installed from source on other distributions. > > > > These are the commands that would be needed for a Debian-based > > distribution: > > > > sudo apt-get install build-essential git evolution-dev libebook1.2- > > dev libecal1.2-dev libgconf2-dev libglib2.0-dev gnome-common > > git clone https://github.com/acidrain42/evolution-on > > cd evolution-on > > ./autogen.sh > > make > > sudo make install > > > > > > The only bit to take into account is that you will need at least > > evolution 3.22 in order to be able to enable the plugin > > (this can be detected by the presence of "undefined symbol: > > camel_message_info_get_flags" errors printed when starting > > evolution > > from the console) > > so -while it can be compiled and installed- it won't work with the > > evolution shipped by Debian jessie (it does work for strecht) > > > > It seems to work nicely, by the way. > > > > Best regards > > > Works well in Debian Buster and a much better implementation than my > old method of using "mail-notification" > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Thank you for the instructions. Now, if only I could find a way to install version 3.22 under Linux Mint 18.2! If anyone can help me over that hurdle, I'd be SO appreciative!___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Wrapping long lines
I'm running Evolution 3.18 on Linux Mint 18.2 Cinnamon Edition. Often I receive html emails that have long lines of text that don't wrap, and it's very tedious to scroll horizontally to read them. Is there a setting somewhere that I haven't discovered that will make these lines wrap automatically to suit the preview panel width?___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to change font color for hyperlinks
On Thu, 2017-08-17 at 17:21 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Thu, 2017-08-17 at 05:17 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > > > > I am running Evolution 3.18.5.2 under Linux Mint 18.2 Mate Edition. > > Hyperlinks are displayed in the preview pane in a weird shade of > > green which is very difficult to read. Where can I change the font > > color for displaying hyperlinks? > I assume that Evolution uses whatever your desktop theme defines. > Does this happen for both HTML and plain text emails? > > andre Right, the problem went away when I switched to Cinnamon desktop. Thanks anyway.___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to change font color for hyperlinks
I am running Evolution 3.18.5.2 under Linux Mint 18.2 Mate Edition. Hyperlinks are displayed in the preview pane in a weird shade of green which is very difficult to read. Where can I change the font color for displaying hyperlinks?___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Minimise to tray?
On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 11:19 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 12:03 +0200, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 10:54 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 09:02 +0200, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2017-08-14 at 00:17 +0100, Phil wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > I'm new to evolution through debian. > > > > > > > > > > Just got a quick question, is there a way I can close > > > > > evolution to the > > > > > Gnome tray? (which appears at the bottom left) > > > > > > > > > I am using Evolution On, works like a charm.. :-) > > > Could you explain what that is? I've never heard of it and > > > suspect it's > > > not a standard part of Evolution. > > > > > > poc > > > ___ > > It's a plugin for Evolution, https://github.com/acidrain42/evolutio > > n-on > No documentation and apparently specific to Arch, so it's not an > answer > to the OP's question. > > poc > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list If anyone succeeds in building it for Ubuntu/Mint, it would be helpful they could post instructions here.___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line
A separate program can invoke Evolution to send an email, by running evolution mailto:some...@example.com?subject=blah... Is there a way to open and pre-populate a new meeting invitation, the same way? I'd like to put in the initial recipients and meeting information, then let the user finish it off and send/save it. cf. http://docs.aws.amazon.com/chime/latest/ug/chime-scheduling-outlook.html It doesn't have to be through invoking evolution on the command line; I could live with D-Bus... smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Sharing Contacts with Ring
I recently installed Ring (ring.cx) and it automatically picked up all my Evolution contacts. The problem is, they are useless in Ring unless I can add Ring IDs as "phone numbers" in Evolution. This is the answer I got on the Ring mailing list when I asked about it from that end: You can add or manage contacts by adding the Ring IDs as telephones (and keep the "ring:" prefix), or as instant messaging and presence protocol (IMPP) (in this case, your version of GNOME Evolution must provide option to add the "[GNU] Ring" protocol, the "ring:" prefix, or provide a way *not* to specify the protocol so that you can add the prefix yourself). So is there some way to facilitate this in Evolution? (I'm using version 3.18.5.2)___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] AppImage version?
On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 15:46 +0100, Dominic Knight wrote: > On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 09:28 -0400, Youssef Mahmoud wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 09:20 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > > > > > > Just looking for a stable configuration that is known to do a > > > clean > > > build of Evolution 3.24. > > I would imagine that Arch is a good way to go since they're very > > close > > to upstream, both in terms of timing and configuration. > > > If you are just looking for a (Stable) distro to build the flatpak > and > delete then I suggest you go via redhat/fedora as the web site build > instructions are designed for that and will give you least hassle > finding dependencies with matching names. > > Just tried a quick build of the 3.25.3 branch via Buster/Debian but > too > many libraries haven't yet made it to the testing branch or are under > different names for me to trouble to continue spending hours in this > way. krb5-devel/openLDAP-devel/GRC-devel/gtk3-devel/webkitgtk4-devel > etc,etc would all need finding and building first. > > YMMV > Cheers, > Dom. > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Thank you, that's just what I needed to know.___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] AppImage version?
On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 15:03 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 03:56 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2017-06-19 at 09:31 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > > > > > > It would be really nice for us users of Ubuntu or Mint LTS > > > versions > > > if someone would build an AppImage or FlatPak version of > > > Evolution > > > 3.24, as it seems as if Gnome 3.24 is at least a year away from > > > those LTS versions. > > > > > Well, maybe I'll give it a try myself. If I were to build Evolution > > 3.24 to create an AppImage, what would be the best distribution to > > build it on? I suppose it would need to be running Gnome 3.24. I > > thought I would install that distribution in a virtual box and > > build > > the AppImage there. Would Debian Stretch be the best platform? > What criteria are implied by using the word "best"? I have no idea > about "AppImage" so I have no idea what to reply to your question. > > So maybe just try and see if it works? :) > > andre Just looking for a stable configuration that is known to do a clean build of Evolution 3.24.___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] AppImage version?
On Mon, 2017-06-19 at 09:31 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > It would be really nice for us users of Ubuntu or Mint LTS versions > if someone would build an AppImage or FlatPak version of Evolution > 3.24, as it seems as if Gnome 3.24 is at least a year away from those > LTS versions. > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Well, maybe I'll give it a try myself. If I were to build Evolution 3.24 to create an AppImage, what would be the best distribution to build it on? I suppose it would need to be running Gnome 3.24. I thought I would install that distribution in a virtual box and build the AppImage there. Would Debian Stretch be the best platform?___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] AppImage version?
It would be really nice for us users of Ubuntu or Mint LTS versions if someone would build an AppImage or FlatPak version of Evolution 3.24, as it seems as if Gnome 3.24 is at least a year away from those LTS versions.___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Improvements since version 3.18
On Mon, 2017-06-12 at 09:39 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Sat, 2017-06-10 at 00:31 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > > > > See all the .news files in the "3.19" to "3.24" folders in > > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/evolution > Hi, > do not forget of evolution-data-server, because evolution it tight to > it. It's basically the main issue with dependencies, because other > system applications also link to the evoltuion-data-server, thus they > require rebuild or update as well. Otherwise dependencies are not > that > big issue, because they didn't change significantly for years (it's a > dependency issue from the other side/up-side-down). Users can compile > from source even to a different prefix [1], though it can be tricky > for > daily use due to D-Bus services. > > Running something like: > > $ git log --pretty=format:"[%h] %s (%an)" EVOLUTION_3_18_5_2.. | > wc -l > > in the gnome-3-24 checkout gives me 827 general commits, 407 commits > in > translations and 48 commits in the help (user documentation). > Similarly > in evolution-data-server 378 general commits and 194 commits in > translations. The numbers are raw commits, not necessarily features > or > bug fixes. > > The web interface, not FTP, for the files can be found here: > https://download.gnome.org/sources/evolution-data-server/ > https://download.gnome.org/sources/evolution/ > > As Andre suggested, the NEWS files are the place to look for divided > changes. You can look on all of them at once here: > https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/tree/NEWS?h=gnome- > 3-24 > https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/tree/NEWS?h=gnome-3-24 > > Bye, > Milan > > [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Building > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Thank you, it was nice to browse through the improvements, but they see m to be out of reach until Linux Mint moves on to a Ubuntu base later than 16.04, unless I abandon Linux Mint and install Debian Stretch instead. I'm not sure if I'm ready to do that.___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Improvements since version 3.18
I've pretty much given up trying to get any Evolution version above 3.18.5.2 running on my Linux Mint 18.1 system, as the unmet dependencies are so numerous. But I'm still very curious about what I'm missing by not having the latest stable version installed. Is there any documentation anywhere of the improvements added since version 3.18? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.24 for Ubuntu?
On Tue, 2017-05-16 at 15:30 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Tue, 2017-05-16 at 09:16 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > > I'm running Linux Mint 18.1, which only provides Evolution 3.18 in > > > > its repositories. I tried building Evolution 3.24.2 from scratch, but > > got lost somewhere in the morass of unmet dependencies. Might there > > be a .deb package somewhere for version 3.24.x, or anything newer > > than 3.18, for that matter? > > > https://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-t hem > https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging > > Cheers, > andre Well, I added that ppa and updated my system according to what the update manager flagged, but something that was updated made a mess of my menus and other screen rendering, as in the attached screen shot of the upper left corner of the Evolution window. How can I recover from this? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Version 3.24 for Ubuntu?
I'm running Linux Mint 18.1, which only provides Evolution 3.18 in its repositories. I tried building Evolution 3.24.2 from scratch, but got lost somewhere in the morass of unmet dependencies. Might there be a .deb package somewhere for version 3.24.x, or anything newer than 3.18, for that matter?##SELECTION_END##___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Default account; missing indicators
On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 16:24 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 08:57 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > > > > The other strange thing is that when I set one of my mail accounts > > as > > the default, that setting does not last beyond the current session. > > When Evolution exits and then I restart it, the setting of the > > default account is gone. I'm pretty sure this is also new behavior, > > as I thought this setting was retained in the past. > Hi, > even your 3.18.5.2 is rather old, I just noticed that my latest > development version (to be 3.25.2) also doesn't show which mail > account > is configured as the default in Edit->Preferences->Mail Accounts, > thus > it can be a bug in the code. I have preselected "the right account" > when creating a new mail message in a folder where Send Account > Override is not set. > Bye, > Milan > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list That's interesting. I'd like to run the latest stable version, but unfortunately it hasn't made it to the Linux Mint repository yet, and I haven't yet found the time to complile it from source. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Default account; missing indicators
I'm running Evolution 3.18.5.2 under Linux Mint Cinnamon 18.1, using POP3 for all mail accounts. On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 15:05 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 08:57 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > > > > Two strange things have happened since I installed Evolution. At > > first, when I received incoming mail, it would trigger a message > > from > > the indicator applet in the system tray and increment the count of > > events. Then at some point it stopped doing that. I don't exactly > > remember when, but I just started noticing that it wasn't > > happening. > > I can't think of anything I installed or removed that could have > > affected it. I still receive indicator messages for other events, > > such as incoming calls on my softphone, so the indicator applet is > > still working. > Which Evolution version, distribution and desktop environment? > Which account type? POP, IMAP, something else? > > > > > The other strange thing is that when I set one of my mail accounts > > as > > the default, that setting does not last beyond the current session. > > When Evolution exits and then I restart it, the setting of the > > default account is gone. I'm pretty sure this is also new behavior, > > as I thought this setting was retained in the past. > Cheers, > andre___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Default account; missing indicators
Well, I answered my own question in regard to the missing indicators. I had added two filters to sort incoming mail into two subfolders of the Inbox, which worked fine, but that is evidently what disabled the indicators appearing, since when I unchecked those two filters, the next incoming messages triggered the indicators. But this doesn't seem like right behavior to me. What use are filters for sorting incoming mail if they disable another normal and useful function? On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 08:57 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > Two strange things have happened since I installed Evolution. At > first, when I received incoming mail, it would trigger a message from > the indicator applet in the system tray and increment the count of > events. Then at some point it stopped doing that. I don't exactly > remember when, but I just started noticing that it wasn't happening. > I can't think of anything I installed or removed that could have > affected it. I still receive indicator messages for other events, > such as incoming calls on my softphone, so the indicator applet is > still working. > > The other strange thing is that when I set one of my mail accounts as > the default, that setting does not last beyond the current session. > When Evolution exits and then I restart it, the setting of the > default account is gone. I'm pretty sure this is also new behavior, > as I thought this setting was retained in the past. > > If these are bugs I should file reports about, fine, but I am hoping > there is something simple I can do to restore right behavior. > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Default account; missing indicators
Two strange things have happened since I installed Evolution. At first, when I received incoming mail, it would trigger a message from the indicator applet in the system tray and increment the count of events. Then at some point it stopped doing that. I don't exactly remember when, but I just started noticing that it wasn't happening. I can't think of anything I installed or removed that could have affected it. I still receive indicator messages for other events, such as incoming calls on my softphone, so the indicator applet is still working. The other strange thing is that when I set one of my mail accounts as the default, that setting does not last beyond the current session. When Evolution exits and then I restart it, the setting of the default account is gone. I'm pretty sure this is also new behavior, as I thought this setting was retained in the past. If these are bugs I should file reports about, fine, but I am hoping there is something simple I can do to restore right behavior.##SELECTION_END##___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
