-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:27
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
Here's the problem with not performing sender notifications:
What if your user is the sender?
Don't say it doesn't
I'm seeing BugBear.B, Klez, and Fizzer the most, none of which are
spoofed source addresses.
You might want to take another look at these as they all spoof the sender
address. Klez and Bugbear are the reason we turned off to notify the sender.
Jeff
://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and on and on and on...unfortunately. :0)
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
We have what I
10:43 AM
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Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
Roger,
This is the FIRST topic I have ever disagreed with you
on...however, see
below:
Klez -
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.kl
ez.gen.html
Email spoofing
Some variants
: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:46 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Virus Notifications to Sender?
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
Hmmm.. Two interesting things are that a) none of the other sources I
checked talked about spoofed sender
I forward all my virus notifications to Roger.
-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:43 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: Virus Notifications to Sender?
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender
in getting mail delivered to Microsoft during the
week or so when that virus was popular.
-Peter
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From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:06
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
I forward all my virus
I appreciate all the feedback. After reviewing the posts, I guess we will
have to re-evaluate the sender notification messages. I'm starting to lean
toward turning the notification off. Or possibly a combination of both?
Turning off when we have an outbreak of a new virus that spoofs like KLEZ
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From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:06
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
I appreciate all the feedback. After reviewing the posts, I guess we will
have to re-evaluate the sender notification messages
Running Trends ScanMail, so we don't have an option to send notifications
based on virus type. Good idea though!
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From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender
First, let me say that I understand what your saying if you are saying that
you are concerned about the 1% and wish to help make the internet a better
place by assisting them to control viruses on their computers.
Now for my POV
The one percent are basically causing the hardliners to spam the
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
First, let me say that I understand what your saying if you are saying
that you are concerned about the 1% and wish to help make the internet a
better place by assisting them to control viruses on their computers.
Now for my POV
be it. Don't send me viruses and I won't send
you those notifications in the first place.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harmer, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender
going to happen when p*rn spammers start sending messages
to users as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harmer, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:49 AM
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Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harmer, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:49 AM
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Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
Ah, but Don't send me viruses and I won't send you those notifications
in the first place. is the flaw. They did not send you the virus. They
mearly were
MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
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From: Dan Bartley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
We don't send sender notifications. It is bad Netiquette
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
We don't send sender notifications. It is bad Netiquette in
the current Trojan environment. It is bad for email lists, it
is bad for IT departments and it is bad
:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
We don't send sender notifications. It is bad Netiquette in the
current Trojan environment. It is bad for email lists, it is bad for
IT departments and it is bad for individual users.
However, we do look
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:27
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
Here's the problem with not performing sender notifications:
What if your user is the sender?
Don't say it doesn't happen. It does, and sometimes that's the best way for
you
:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
If our user is the sender then all the e-mails will still have the wrong Sender
address, we'd still be sending notifications to a bunch of people that didn't send any
viruses, and it's still a bad idea. In fact it's
Cc:
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
Here, Here!
I totally agree. Even when I created Anti-Virus software the Default for
Sender Notification is always OFF:
1. It is very possible that the message is not from
June 2003 1:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
For us the 1% just happened to be one of our employees
mother. She was receiving those what was that strange
message you sent? for at least 3 months from people. It
wasn't until she sent a message here
True.after the arguments today my opinion on the subject has changed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Molkentin
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
Chris
I leave them on - it's a good indication someone is hijacking their mail
accounts.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)
Agreed. Leave em on.
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
I leave them on - it's a good indication someone is hijacking their mail
accounts.
We leave them off. The majority of today's virus' and Trojans are not
from who they say they are. If we see one that is legitimate on the From
address we will send a note separately.
Notifying the sender when they weren't the sender doesn't really help
them know their email was hijacked. They
Live with it.
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From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:53 AM
Subject: Virus Notifications to Sender?
Off topic.
With the advent of Klez and various other viruses who spoof the
5:50
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Live with it.
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From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:53 AM
Subject: Virus Notifications to Sender?
Off
Yea but what about that 1% that has no clue their sending out viruses?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Durkee, Peter
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
We've turned
to Sender?
Yea but what about that 1% that has no clue their sending out viruses?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Durkee, Peter
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:48 AM
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Subject: RE: Virus Notifications to Sender?
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