RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-23 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
And they're misdirected. Spam is another name for UCE, unsolicited commercial e-mail, which the thread in question definitely is not. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!™ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROT

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics AGAIN MORE SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Slinger, Gary
Looks like someone's volunteering to demonstrate the effects of MAILSTORM... -Original Message- From: Troels Majlandt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 15:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics AGAIN MORE S

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics AGAIN MORE SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Slinger, Gary
Looks like someone's volunteering to demonstrate the effects of MAILSTORM... -Original Message- From: Troels Majlandt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 15:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics AGAIN MORE S

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics AGAIN MORE SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Steve Hanna
You don't understand the definition of "spam" so I suggest that you may also STFU. --steve > -Original Message- > From: Troels Majlandt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 3:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: SV: Greg&

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics AGAIN MORE SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
AGAIN MORE SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Greg Deckler Sendt: 22. december 2003 20:57 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics John, you post some intelligent stuff I have to say. Yes,

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics MORE SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
MORE SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Greg Deckler Sendt: 22. december 2003 20:48 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics If truth be told, I actually LOVE to starve children. It is one

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Hiatt, Jack (MARC)
these are worse than the debate. -Original Message- From: Troels Majlandt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 Dec 2003 14:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Shotton Jolyon
] Sent: 22 December 2003 19:31 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM Yo tickturd... Was it really necessary for you to reply to all these messages with SPAM? Just unsubscribe yourself... Or gripe to the admin's like the rest of us. The i

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Sirius F. Crackhoe
Yo tickturd... Was it really necessary for you to reply to all these messages with SPAM? Just unsubscribe yourself... Or gripe to the admin's like the rest of us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Troels Majlandt Sent: Monday, Decemb

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Martin Tuip [MVP] Sendt: 22. december 2003 19:51 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: Re: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Does that make the shop unethical now for not considering any

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Chinnery, Paul Sendt: 22. december 2003 19:50 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics My sentiments exactly, Erik. I think your post says it all rega

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Erik Sojka Sendt: 22. december 2003 19:46 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the types of consu

SV: Recall: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Shotton Jolyon Sendt: 22. december 2003 19:52 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Recall: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics I really must apologise for that moment of panic. And apol

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Roger Seielstad Sendt: 22. december 2003 19:51 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics I don't know about the other MVP's, but I certainly

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Greg Deckler Sendt: 22. december 2003 19:53 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Actually, I have had plenty of people step forward, privately and su

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Jeremy T. Slater Sendt: 22. december 2003 19:54 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Of course they don't... And we'd prefer not to get i

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Ken Cornetet Sendt: 22. december 2003 19:56 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Whoa! Guys! Stop! UNBIASED *That* is the crux of the problem with

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Tom Meunier Sendt: 22. december 2003 19:56 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Argumentum ad ignorantiam doesn't work. Pretty common (and

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Tom Meunier Sendt: 22. december 2003 19:58 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Nobody has ever proven that my bathtub isn't Cthulhu's

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Greg Deckler Sendt: 22. december 2003 19:58 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics The second scenario still presents the potential for a confli

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics - SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Shotton Jolyon Sendt: 22. december 2003 20:13 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Very true. But surely the greater motivational force in these

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Roger Seielstad Sendt: 22. december 2003 19:59 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics > You can be offended all you want, it does not change the F

SV: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics SPAM

2003-12-22 Thread Troels Majlandt
SPAM -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Greg Deckler Sendt: 22. december 2003 20:05 Til: Exchange Discussions Emne: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics As long as Inovis' HR department has no rules regarding acce

RE: What is SPAM - Please comment

2003-12-15 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
1:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: What is SPAM - Please comment Oh wait, I get it. Since MVPs are unethical and SPAM is unethical, any message coming from an MVP must be unethical. Phew. I'm glad you pointed that out to the list. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Div

RE: What is SPAM - Please comment

2003-12-15 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Spam is a synonym of the more technically correct term, unsolicited commercial e-mail, or UCE. The name is pretty much self-defining. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!™ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: What is SPAM - Please comment

2003-12-15 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Is your software scanning for the word "spam" in the message subject? :) Or MVP? -Original Message- From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: What is SPAM - Please comment I'm just thankf

RE: What is SPAM - Please comment

2003-12-15 Thread Scott Force
I'm just thankful that my anti-spam software has correctly identified and properly dealt with these Spam related posts. The best 2k of my companies money I've ever spent! > Oh wait, I get it. Since MVPs are unethical and SPAM is unethical, any > message coming from an MVP m

RE: What is SPAM - Please comment

2003-12-15 Thread Eric Fretz
Oh wait, I get it. Since MVPs are unethical and SPAM is unethical, any message coming from an MVP must be unethical. Phew. I'm glad you pointed that out to the list. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.750

RE: What is SPAM - Please comment

2003-12-15 Thread Alverson, Tom
Any email with MVP in the signature is spam. -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: What is SPAM - Please comment More ethical discussions? -Original Message- From

RE: What is SPAM - Please comment

2003-12-15 Thread Shotton Jolyon
Spam. I'd be cross if you sent that to me. If you know me well enough to mention it and you think I'd be interested you can tell me when we're down the pub, otherwise you can keep this and anything else that isn't directly related to work to yourself. I don't see wh

Re: What is SPAM - Please comment

2003-12-15 Thread Simon . Earle
If you were to send it to a list like this then its SPAM. If, on the other hand, its a mail to people internally surely you have rules governing what can be sent over the network? In the past the company I worked for allowed this, but as the numbers grew messages sent out to ALL USERs (for

RE: What is SPAM - Please comment

2003-12-15 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
More ethical discussions? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: What is SPAM - Please comment Dear All I would be interested in any comments about the following ethical problem

RE: What is SPAM - Please comment

2003-12-15 Thread Robert Moir
I'd say that's spam. There is a lot of argument about what exactly "spam" is, and I would say this falls under the definition I use - unsolicited, commercial, bulk. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15 Decem

RE: What is SPAM - Please comment

2003-12-15 Thread Randal, Phil
That's definitely spam. No question about it. Unless your colleagues have specifically asked for emails about telco offers, that is. And of course we all know that they haven't. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshi

What is SPAM - Please comment

2003-12-15 Thread ajmurphy
lco-store.com Thanks for your assistance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. My question to you is whether if I were to send out a mail

RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus

2003-11-12 Thread Fisher, Kyle D.
ussions Subject: RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus They must have dropped their price since we looked at them. 5k per year? They based our price on throughput.It came to 40k a year I think. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus

2003-11-07 Thread Chinnery, Paul
Trend for email and desktop a/v and we've got a budget for spam but haven't implemented it yet. That's why we met with Sprint. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 0

RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus

2003-11-07 Thread Woodruff, Michael
What are you running for those services now if you don't mind me asking? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chinnery, Paul Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam

RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus

2003-11-07 Thread Chinnery, Paul
said hey that's not too bad; let somebody else handle that burden. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sprint Email Ser

RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus

2003-11-07 Thread Chinnery, Paul
PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus They must have dropped their price since we looked at them. 5k per year? They based our price on throughput.It came to 40k a year I think. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus

2003-11-07 Thread Chinnery, Paul
I agree with you on that point, Ben. The spam part doesn't bother me too much but the a/v does. It's a little troubling to give up that kind of control. And thank you for pointing that out. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Ben Winze

RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus

2003-11-07 Thread Woodruff, Michael
, November 07, 2003 3:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus Here's the only problem I have with ANY service like that. It means that I am relying on THEM to determine what is and is not spam, and I am relying on THEM to scan my e-mail for viruse

RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus

2003-11-07 Thread Woodruff, Michael
: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus Actually, the price didn't seem that out of line. For the whole shebang (a/s, a/v, dis recovery; i.e. they hold all our mail until we get back online), it came to around $5K per year. Heck, the way Trend's been up

RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus

2003-11-07 Thread Ben Winzenz
Here's the only problem I have with ANY service like that. It means that I am relying on THEM to determine what is and is not spam, and I am relying on THEM to scan my e-mail for viruses. I don't like doing either - I would much rather be in control of both of those options. It

RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus

2003-11-07 Thread Chinnery, Paul
ain. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus Get your wallet ready... -Original Message

RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus

2003-11-07 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Discussions Subject: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus Has anybody on the list had any experience with Sprint's email service? We had them in for a meeting today. They offer both an anti-spam and an anti-virus service. MX records are changed to point to Sprint servers where the ma

RE: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus

2003-11-07 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Get your wallet ready... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chinnery, Paul Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus Has anybody on the list had any experience with

Sprint Email Services:anti-spam/anti-virus

2003-11-07 Thread Chinnery, Paul
Has anybody on the list had any experience with Sprint's email service? We had them in for a meeting today. They offer both an anti-spam and an anti-virus service. MX records are changed to point to Sprint servers where the mail is then subjected to their a/s and a/v software. Paul Chi

RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering.

2003-11-03 Thread Robert Blomquist
bject: RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering. I am running it on W2K Advanced server (we are doing load balancing for failover) although it will run nicely on W2K Server (what we initially tested it on) uses its own SMTP server .. can run on the machine that Exchange is

RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering.

2003-11-03 Thread Wohlgemuth, Mike
ect: RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering. I was just taking a look at Xwall and it does in fact look pretty good. Questions: What operating system are you running it on? Does it need a separate SMTP server to be running or does it provide its own? If it needs another, w

RE: Spam Clogging the IMC Queue -- Feigning Open Relay

2003-11-03 Thread Couch, Nate
Excuse me. Symantec said they weren't aware of any virus that can put dummy addresses in the To and From fields? I find that hard to believe since the Klez virus, among others, does this very thing and they are certainly aware of that virus. As for your original issue about the spam delet

RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering.

2003-11-03 Thread Robert Blomquist
Information Technology Sabic Americas, Inc. -Original Message- From: Wohlgemuth, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering. We have used Xwall for about a year

Re: Spam Clogging the IMC Queue -- Feigning Open Relay

2003-11-03 Thread AliAdmin
rprised if the spammers find a way around it. Bye Ali - Original Message - From: "Jay Kulsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: Re: Spam Clogging the IMC Queue -- Feigning Op

Re: Spam Clogging the IMC Queue -- Feigning Open Relay

2003-11-03 Thread Jay Kulsh
://www.cancer-treatment.net - Original Message - From: Jay Kulsh To: Exchange Discussions Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 9:17 PM Subject: Spam Clogging the IMC Queue -- Feigning Open Relay Hi folks, We do not have open relay on our two Exchange servers (5.5 SP4) as tested by various tools

Spam Clogging the IMC Queue -- Feigning Open Relay

2003-11-02 Thread Jay Kulsh
Hi folks, We do not have open relay on our two Exchange servers (5.5 SP4) as tested by various tools. However in the queue of IMC, there are thousand of messages that have outside domains in both source and destination addresses. The addresses of originators are obviously computer generated with w

RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering.

2003-11-01 Thread Wohlgemuth, Mike
[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering. Let us all know what you think of Xwall if you get it running. I looked at their web page and it's only $350 per server (any number of users). If it works that sound very reasonable. Tom -

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-31 Thread Matt Plahtinsky
Thanks for all your help! Matt -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SPAM filtering on a budget I would look into getting a new ISP. Not much you can do about other people's sy

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-31 Thread Scott Weston
I would look into getting a new ISP. Not much you can do about other people's systems if they are using dnsbl's. -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SPAM filtering on a bud

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-31 Thread Kim Schotanus
Bad experiences with dns based blacklists is that we are frequently refused to send mails because our ISP appears on a number of blacklists. -Original Message- From: Erik Renberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 31 oktober 2003 14:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SPAM

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-31 Thread Erik Renberg
Hi, I'm using a small free Exchange EventSink program called ORFilter. http://martijnjongen.com/eng/orfilter/default.htm ORFilter only checks the senders IP-adress against DNS-based blacklists but that seems to get rid of most of the spam for us and it's free... The softw

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-30 Thread Lentz, Wayne
e. -Wayne > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt > Plahtinsky > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:22 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: SPAM filtering on a budget > > Hello list, > I know SPAM filtering products

Re: On the theme of spam......

2003-10-30 Thread hawkinsgp
I restrict all kinds of mail attachments - HTML, .exe, .vbs., .vcf...all kinds of things. I only let about five attachment types through at all. I get a lot of complaints about it, but there's usually a workaround, and our incidence of email-borne viruses has decreased dramatically. Geni __

On the theme of spam......

2003-10-30 Thread Nick Field
Hi All, We have experienced a vast increase in the amount of spam our employees have been getting (in the region of 3-400% increase) over the last 6 months. Prior to this, our MailSweeper was coping quite well with the problem, but is having significant problems with HTML based email ( the ones

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-30 Thread Mark Dewell
. > -Original Message- > From: Weathersby, Bryce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 October 2003 16:41 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: SPAM filtering on a budget > > > We are also using GFI MailEssentials 9. I have so far only activated > black/whit

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-30 Thread Weathersby, Bryce
We are also using GFI MailEssentials 9. I have so far only activated black/whitelisting and already have a constant 20-30% blockage of spam. Next week I will enable the Bayesian filter next week. I highly recommend the GFI Products... Bryce Weathersby Network Specialist I Lamar Institute of

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-30 Thread Mark Dewell
does take a bit of work to build up the keyword list but seems pretty good to me, although I don't know how much spam is getting passed the filter. False-positives are less than 1% (and are mainly people sending remote images which is not something we encouraged even if the message is inn

RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering.

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Hutchings
7635 5378, Fax: 44 (0)24 7635 8378 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 October 2003 14:53 > To: Exchange Discussions > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Ex

RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering.

2003-10-30 Thread Alverson, Tom
esday, October 29, 2003 10:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering. Exchange 5.5 Sorry if this came through twice. Had to change the text type and re-send. This is a little off-topic. We are about to deploy XWall for Exchange on our

RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering.

2003-10-29 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering. POP, if I'm not mistaken, uses port 110. Users mail could potentially get marked as spam I would think as they will be sending through the smtp connector. Someone please correct me if I'm

RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering.

2003-10-29 Thread Adams, Kevin C.
POP, if I'm not mistaken, uses port 110. Users mail could potentially get marked as spam I would think as they will be sending through the smtp connector. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. -K- -Original Message- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

RE: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering.

2003-10-29 Thread Martin Blackstone
: Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering. Exchange 5.5 Sorry if this came through twice. Had to change the text type and re-send. This is a little off-topic. We are about to deploy XWall for Exchange on our front end IMC relays. One of the requirements is that we change

Off-topic changing SMTP port on Exchange for spam filtering.

2003-10-29 Thread Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)
Exchange 5.5 Sorry if this came through twice. Had to change the text type and re-send. This is a little off-topic. We are about to deploy XWall for Exchange on our front end IMC relays. One of the requirements is that we change the smtp port for Exchange on the IMC's to use 24 since XWall w

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-28 Thread Kevinm[MVP]
There are win32 versions of spam assassin as well. -- Rev. Kevinm WLKMMAS, Exchange MVP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boyd, Nathan Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SPAM filtering on a

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-28 Thread Boyd, Nathan
My advice would be to find someone who does know Linux (a student, maybe?) and have them assist you in setting up a Linux/SpamAssassin box. There are many, many guides available on the Internet to do this sort of thing. ___ If you are a pure Micr

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-28 Thread Marc Smith
lf Of Matt Plahtinsky Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SPAM filtering on a budget Hello list, I know SPAM filtering products have been covered in great detail but I'm having problems finding a good gateway SPAM filtering product that's not going to co

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-28 Thread Freddie Soerensen
22 To: Exchange Discussions Hello list, I know SPAM filtering products have been covered in great detail but I'm having problems finding a good gateway SPAM filtering product that's not going to cost me a lot of money. I have a small organization of about 100 users. The products that I

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-28 Thread Woods, Tony
I had a budget to work with, did all kinds of research until I found out we had the Enterprise License for SAV products... This meant that I was already licensed for SAV for SMTP Gateways, which does SPAM, Attachaments, virus scanning, subject blocking and DNSBL's too. My point being that

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-28 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I hear IMGate is really good. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SPAM filtering on a budget

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2003-10-28 Thread Paul Hutchings
our DMZ, but I stopped using it for spam filtering as I found keywords and RBLs to be a little too "black and white" (though to stress again, I've not really tried its bayes filtering). I currently use spamassassin, and I don't think I can over-emphasize just how good it is cons

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-28 Thread Kevinm[MVP]
The ones at the top right = ] -- Rev. Kevinm WLKMMAS, Exchange MVP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SPAM filtering on a budget Well, we have

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-28 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Well, we have had 3 of the products listed and its pretty accurate for those. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevinm[MVP] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SPAM filtering on a budget Those

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2003-10-28 Thread Kevinm[MVP]
: RE: SPAM filtering on a budget http://www.nwfusion.com/reviews/2003/0915spam.html Here is how well they work in production. Not sure about pricing though, call em. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Plahtinsky Sent: Tuesday

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2003-10-28 Thread Martin Blackstone
::pats MailFrontier box:: -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SPAM filtering on a budget http://www.nwfusion.com/reviews/2003/0915spam.html Here is how well they work in

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-28 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Discussions Subject: SPAM filtering on a budget Hello list, I know SPAM filtering products have been covered in great detail but I'm having problems finding a good gateway SPAM filtering product that's not going to cost me a lot of money. I have a small organization of about 100 u

Re: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-28 Thread bscott
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, at 11:21am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My problem with SpamAssassin is that I don't know the first thing about > Linux so that's out of the question. "Running Linux" - $32 "Linux Administration Handbook" - $45 Getting an ant

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-28 Thread Dickenson, Steven
nal Message- From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SPAM filtering on a budget Hello list, I know SPAM filtering products have been covered in great detail but I'm having problems finding a good gatewa

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2003-10-28 Thread Chris Levis
OTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:22 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: SPAM filtering on a budget > > Hello list, > I know SPAM filtering products have been covered in great > detail but I'm having problems finding a good gateway SPAM > filtering produ

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2003-10-28 Thread Ward, Stuart
:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SPAM filtering on a budget We've been using Spamassassin for several months now. For being free it really does help out. We haven't updated to the latest version and I'm sure that has limited its effectiveness. It really isn't h

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2003-10-28 Thread Arlo Clizer
web. -Original Message- From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SPAM filtering on a budget Hello list, I know SPAM filtering products have been covered in great detail but I'm having problems fi

RE: SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-28 Thread Randal, Phil
to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matt > Plahtinsky > Sent: 28 October 2003 16:22 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: SPAM filtering on a budget > > > Hello list, > I know SPAM filtering products have been covered in great > detail but I'm > having problems findi

SPAM filtering on a budget

2003-10-28 Thread Matt Plahtinsky
Hello list, I know SPAM filtering products have been covered in great detail but I'm having problems finding a good gateway SPAM filtering product that's not going to cost me a lot of money. I have a small organization of about 100 users. The products that I have found that are reasona

RE: [SPAM-FILT] - RE: NDR Question - Number of numbers in MIME From exceeds maximum threshold

2003-10-18 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: [SPAM-FILT] - RE: NDR Question - Number of numbers in MIME From exceeds maximum threshold Make a distribution list that goes nowhere and put those email addresses that you are getting spammed with there. Acts as a blackhole, eating up junk and never gives

RE: [SPAM-FILT] - RE: NDR Question - Number of numbers in MIME From exceeds maximum threshold

2003-10-16 Thread Bob Sadler
! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: [SPAM-FILT] - RE: NDR Question - Number of numbers in MIME >From exce

RE: [SPAM-FILT] - RE: NDR Question - Number of numbers in MIME From exceeds maximum threshold

2003-10-16 Thread Gagrani, Kishore
those mails (as we already do now) in a separate exchange mailbox. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 12:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: [SPAM-FILT] - RE: NDR Question - Number of numbers in MIME From exceeds ma

RE: how does everyone fight this spam?

2003-10-14 Thread Etts, Russell
If it helps, we use Postini. Not too expensive while fighting off viruses and spam. It's work a look. Thanks Russell -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 9:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how does everyone

RE: how does everyone fight this spam?

2003-10-14 Thread Hansen, Eric
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 10:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how does everyone fight this spam? I am running a trial version of GFI's MailEssencials and MailSecurity on Exchange 5.5. Out of five different Corporate Email security programs I've tes

RE: how does everyone fight this spam?

2003-10-13 Thread Shawn Connelly
I am running a trial version of GFI's MailEssencials and MailSecurity on Exchange 5.5. Out of five different Corporate Email security programs I've tested, GFI's products have been the most successful. In addition, there prices are very reasonable. See: http://www.gfi.com/ I also appreciate

RE: Spam: False Positives

2003-10-13 Thread Hansen, Eric
GFI ME8 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 4:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Spam: False Positives What are you using as your spam filter app? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: how does everyone fight this spam?

2003-10-10 Thread Anthony Sollars
We use MMS and I have yet to get any of these spam. Anthony L. Sollars Technology Consultant Information Technology Division, PACCAR Inc. 480 Houser Way North, Renton Wa., 98055 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( 425.254.4845 ) 425.681.4190 2 425.793.6000 -Original Message- From: Neil Doody

RE: Spam: False Positives

2003-10-10 Thread Dflorea
What are you using as your spam filter app? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 2:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Spam: False Positives I'm curious how people on the list are addres

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