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From: Dean Cunningham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:50 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Exchange Discussions (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Yeah, well Mcafee 4.5.1 (NO SP) would not detect badtrans with compressed
files set and scan default
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK
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From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 03 December 2001 14:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Why should I blame the AV product.
Both problems could have been fixed by the users going
: Badtrans and SirCam
Corporate policies may or may not allow all users to
access WindowsUpdate, or if they are using WinNT / 2000 / XP
they might not have local admin rights.
Not quite as simple as your glib assertion would have it.
Phil
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Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Corporate policies may or may not allow all users to
access WindowsUpdate, or if they are using WinNT / 2000 / XP
they might not have local admin rights.
Not quite as simple as your
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
In case the list is completely peppered with the basketball illiterate...
this is a reference to one of the greatest basketball coaches who ever lived
and not an insult to the residents of Lawrence (which is quite a lovely
little basketball
: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Oh.. you mean that overpriced sport where bad-tempered,
poorly dressed, overpaid prima donnas, run back and forth
across a patio deck punching each other out?
John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981
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Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Puh-leeze. It's Lawrence Kansas... Do your users really know
how to do anything other than misspell Phog?
Chris
--
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you
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From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
I wasn't talking about CORPORATE users. I was talking about
HOME users. A
lot of the sircam/badtrans.B hits are coming from
I had fun explaining to a naive-user in the weekend why
antivirus software was essential.
If it is that essential, why doesn't it come with
Windows XP?
Phil
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Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK
p.s. I do part time
Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
I had fun explaining to a naive-user in the weekend why
antivirus software was essential.
If it is that essential, why doesn't it come with
Windows XP?
Phil
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Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire
are best edjumacated with ThE sTiCk [tm] or the fence
post.
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From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Boy can I identify with that.
And to some extent
current world. Don't you think?
-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Boy can I identify with that.
And to some extent, it is understandable. When a user goes out
it is religious doctrine. Believe
it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha
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From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Except for that damn pesky gas
: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Well you have to look at this in the entire perspective.
Taking the spin on your analogy.
To be honest the car and computer are both useable of the lot, or out of
the
box more often than not.
However most people don't drive the car without.
Insurance (incase
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Von:John Matteson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet am:Montag, 3. Dezember 2001 18:27
An: Exchange Discussions
Betreff:RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Boy can I identify with that.
And to some extent, it is understandable. When a user goes out and buys a
car, other than for tags
: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Why does it have to come from Microsoft?
Why can't the system builder install an AV product on the system. I'm sure
if HP worked a deal with Trend or Norton for their home PC virus product,
the value add would be great, at little extra cost to the end user.
John Matteson
03, 2001 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
I haven't bought a new pc in a while but didn't most mfg's bundle McAfee or
Norton AV with them?
Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr
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From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
18:27
An: Exchange Discussions
Betreff: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Boy can I identify with that.
And to some extent, it is understandable. When a user goes
out and buys a
car, other than for tags, they really don't have to go
anywhere else or
purchase anything else to make
-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 03 December 2001 15:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Corporate policies may or may not allow all users to
access WindowsUpdate, or if they are using WinNT / 2000 / XP
Baldwin
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Dell and Gateway both include Norton A/V in their computers, free of charge.
I've purchased about a dozen of each in the past two years and they come
preloaded.
Denis
-Original Message
: Monday, December 03, 2001 3:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
you might want to note that these included virus product's are usually a
30day trail type thing..has been my exprience.
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From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday
I hate when you fail to matriculate. It just leaves one feeling so empty and
unfulfilled.
-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Badtrans and SirCam
Hah. Go Terps!
Missy Koslosky
Yeah, well Mcafee 4.5.1 (NO SP) would not detect badtrans with compressed
files set and scan default files (even tho PIF and SCR in the default file
scan) the 4176/4.1.60 combination fixes that. So don't quite blame the user
:-)
-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL
They have a new scan engine available as well
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From: Dean Cunningham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 5:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
Yeah, well Mcafee 4.5.1 (NO SP) would not detect badtrans
I offer free service for my users home PC's if they want to bring them
in. About 1 in 5 has AV software on them
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Matteson
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 5:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:
doctrine. Believe
it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 8:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
I offer free service for my users home PC's
: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 November 2001 13:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
I offer free service for my users home PC's if they want to bring them
in. About 1 in 5 has AV software on them
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From: [EMAIL
You are 3 of 5.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 8:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
I offer free service for my users home PC's if they want to bring them
in. About 1 in 5 has AV
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