RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
No, it had been delivered by the linux mail server. She was just moving these old eMails to her new Exchange Mail Box. At the time she was moving the mails from the .pst to the Mail Box, her new mails were being delievered to her Mail Box Inbox on the Exchange Server. I ran ScanPST over 7 times now, and still there is no error. On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: And the internet mail was delivered to the PST by your Exchange server? I think DumpsterAlwaysOn will do it unless this was a connection directly to the ISP. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Yes. And she had the remove mail from Server option set on her client. n Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: Wll, how did they get delivered there? Was she on Internet Mail only prior? -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I think I have confused you? Or not explained myself. Her mails were on her .pst. Her Outlook was set up for using Exchange Server. She opened her old .pst temporarily, to move old eMails FROM the .pst TO the Server. From your explanation, I think you thought they were on the Server, then moved to .pst. On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: They had to be on some server at sometime, before they ended up in the PST on the User's HD. MailServerMail in Inbox on MailServer. Users starts client,mail leaves Inbox of Mailserver, gets delivered to inbox of PST. Go to the OLD Server Or where ever the mail was and try to recover what ever was lost via the Deleted Item Retention time and the dumpster always on Reg hack. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Can you explain how the deleted item retention would work, if the eMails probably weren't on the Server to begin with? I also looked on Slipstick.com, but the apps seemed to be for .psts that are corrupted. This one doesn't seem to be. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Second thoughtDo you buy chance have deleted item rention time turned on? If so, with the dumpster always on reg hack you should be able to recover at least mail for the amount of days you have retention time set... Where was the personal folder stored? PC...? Network share? If share, was it backed up? How important is this info that is lost? Is it worth $245..if so, you might want to call PSS. I don't think they'll charge if they can't help... Have you looked at Slipstick.com...? PST files blow, don't they...? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Hello Lori, Matthew, I was told to drop this task. But thank you for your help and patience. Allison Wittstock On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: And the internet mail was delivered to the PST by your Exchange server? I think DumpsterAlwaysOn will do it unless this was a connection directly to the ISP. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Yes. And she had the remove mail from Server option set on her client. n Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: Wll, how did they get delivered there? Was she on Internet Mail only prior? -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I think I have confused you? Or not explained myself. Her mails were on her .pst. Her Outlook was set up for using Exchange Server. She opened her old .pst temporarily, to move old eMails FROM the .pst TO the Server. From your explanation, I think you thought they were on the Server, then moved to .pst. On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: They had to be on some server at sometime, before they ended up in the PST on the User's HD. MailServerMail in Inbox on MailServer. Users starts client,mail leaves Inbox of Mailserver, gets delivered to inbox of PST. Go to the OLD Server Or where ever the mail was and try to recover what ever was lost via the Deleted Item Retention time and the dumpster always on Reg hack. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Can you explain how the deleted item retention would work, if the eMails probably weren't on the Server to begin with? I also looked on Slipstick.com, but the apps seemed to be for .psts that are corrupted. This one doesn't seem to be. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Second thoughtDo you buy chance have deleted item rention time turned on? If so, with the dumpster always on reg hack you should be able to recover at least mail for the amount of days you have retention time set... Where was the personal folder stored? PC...? Network share? If share, was it backed up? How important is this info that is lost? Is it worth $245..if so, you might want to call PSS. I don't think they'll charge if they can't help... Have you looked at Slipstick.com...? PST files blow, don't they...? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Right after you said Linux I had to quit thinking about it! Too bad for your user though, since they were trying to get off of the Dreaded and Evil PST. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello Lori, Matthew, I was told to drop this task. But thank you for your help and patience. Allison Wittstock On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: And the internet mail was delivered to the PST by your Exchange server? I think DumpsterAlwaysOn will do it unless this was a connection directly to the ISP. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Yes. And she had the remove mail from Server option set on her client. n Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: Wll, how did they get delivered there? Was she on Internet Mail only prior? -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I think I have confused you? Or not explained myself. Her mails were on her .pst. Her Outlook was set up for using Exchange Server. She opened her old .pst temporarily, to move old eMails FROM the .pst TO the Server. From your explanation, I think you thought they were on the Server, then moved to .pst. On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: They had to be on some server at sometime, before they ended up in the PST on the User's HD. MailServerMail in Inbox on MailServer. Users starts client,mail leaves Inbox of Mailserver, gets delivered to inbox of PST. Go to the OLD Server Or where ever the mail was and try to recover what ever was lost via the Deleted Item Retention time and the dumpster always on Reg hack. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Can you explain how the deleted item retention would work, if the eMails probably weren't on the Server to begin with? I also looked on Slipstick.com, but the apps seemed to be for .psts that are corrupted. This one doesn't seem to be. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Second thoughtDo you buy chance have deleted item rention time turned on? If so, with the dumpster always on reg hack you should be able to recover at least mail for the amount of days you have retention time set... Where was the personal folder stored? PC...? Network share? If share, was it backed up? How important is this info that is lost? Is it worth $245..if so, you might want to call PSS. I don't think they'll charge if they can't help... Have you looked at Slipstick.com...? PST files blow, don't they...? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
and OSTs . unstable after 1 gig or so -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 17:49 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I think you are confused. The mailbox size limit does not apply to a PST. There is a 2GB limit on PSTs, though. Did your user blow up the PST by exceeding that? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
This article didn't help, since the ScanPST program did not find any errors in the .pst. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Allison, You may have to concede on this one. Unless one of the grey beards has an idea, I don't see how you're going to recover that missing data. Excerpt form Q171371: On the View menu, click Folder List to turn on the Folder List view. In your Folder List, the following recovered folders should be displayed: - Recovered personal folders - Calendar - Contacts - Deleted Items - Inbox - Journal - Notes - Outbox - Sent Items - Tasks These folders are usually empty because the folders are part of a rebuilt .pst file. A Lost and Found folder should also be displayed. This folder contains the folders and items that the Inbox Repair Tool recovered. Any items that are missing are beyond repair. Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG ___ __ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Did you run it the required minimum of 7 times??? Then compact the file then run it some more. Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA ~~~ All spelling and Factual errors are the fault of Bob Barker ~~~ This space has been rented by: Http://www.tiggercam.co.uk For all your tigger needs You 2 can rent this space if you need it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allison Wittstock Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server This article didn't help, since the ScanPST program did not find any errors in the .pst. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Allison, You may have to concede on this one. Unless one of the grey beards has an idea, I don't see how you're going to recover that missing data. Excerpt form Q171371: On the View menu, click Folder List to turn on the Folder List view. In your Folder List, the following recovered folders should be displayed: - Recovered personal folders - Calendar - Contacts - Deleted Items - Inbox - Journal - Notes - Outbox - Sent Items - Tasks These folders are usually empty because the folders are part of a rebuilt .pst file. A Lost and Found folder should also be displayed. This folder contains the folders and items that the Inbox Repair Tool recovered. Any items that are missing are beyond repair. Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.a sp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Why would you set a receive limit? Doesn't that impact business? The other limits I can understand, but the receive limit seems rater fzcked... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allison Wittstock Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Losing data after moving to Exchange server At 200MB, the user gets a warning that they are reaching the limit. At 250MB, the user cannot send any emails. At 300MB, the user cannot receive any emails. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Please define Mailbox size limit. What are your exact settings? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. Her .pst was opened temporarily to retreive her eMails, Calendar appoinments, etc for permanent storage in her Exchange Mailbox. During the moving of a large folder to the Server, she exceeded the size limit of her new mailbox. From what I heard (I was of course not in the office at the time), she did the equivalent of a move paste and not a copy paste. Allison Wittstock inubit AG On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: I think you are confused. The mailbox size limit does not apply to a PST. There is a 2GB limit on PSTs, though. Did your user blow up the PST by exceeding that? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Since I didn't set the limit, so I can't tell you. Most users have a mailbox under 150MB. The user that had the problem had doubles/triples/quadruples/etc of eMails, that is why she exceeded the limit. On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: Why would you set a receive limit? Doesn't that impact business? The other limits I can understand, but the receive limit seems rater fzcked... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allison Wittstock Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Losing data after moving to Exchange server At 200MB, the user gets a warning that they are reaching the limit. At 250MB, the user cannot send any emails. At 300MB, the user cannot receive any emails. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Please define Mailbox size limit. What are your exact settings? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. Her .pst was opened temporarily to retreive her eMails, Calendar appoinments, etc for permanent storage in her Exchange Mailbox. During the moving of a large folder to the Server, she exceeded the size limit of her new mailbox. From what I heard (I was of course not in the office at the time), she did the equivalent of a move paste and not a copy paste. Allison Wittstock inubit AG On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: I think you are confused. The mailbox size limit does not apply to a PST. There is a 2GB limit on PSTs, though. Did your user blow up the PST by exceeding that? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Can you explain how the deleted item retention would work, if the eMails probably weren't on the Server to begin with? I also looked on Slipstick.com, but the apps seemed to be for .psts that are corrupted. This one doesn't seem to be. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Second thoughtDo you buy chance have deleted item rention time turned on? If so, with the dumpster always on reg hack you should be able to recover at least mail for the amount of days you have retention time set... Where was the personal folder stored? PC...? Network share? If share, was it backed up? How important is this info that is lost? Is it worth $245..if so, you might want to call PSS. I don't think they'll charge if they can't help... Have you looked at Slipstick.com...? PST files blow, don't they...? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG ___ __ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
I think I have confused you? Or not explained myself. Her mails were on her .pst. Her Outlook was set up for using Exchange Server. She opened her old .pst temporarily, to move old eMails FROM the .pst TO the Server. From your explanation, I think you thought they were on the Server, then moved to .pst. On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: They had to be on some server at sometime, before they ended up in the PST on the User's HD. MailServerMail in Inbox on MailServer. Users starts client,mail leaves Inbox of Mailserver, gets delivered to inbox of PST. Go to the OLD Server Or where ever the mail was and try to recover what ever was lost via the Deleted Item Retention time and the dumpster always on Reg hack. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Can you explain how the deleted item retention would work, if the eMails probably weren't on the Server to begin with? I also looked on Slipstick.com, but the apps seemed to be for .psts that are corrupted. This one doesn't seem to be. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Second thoughtDo you buy chance have deleted item rention time turned on? If so, with the dumpster always on reg hack you should be able to recover at least mail for the amount of days you have retention time set... Where was the personal folder stored? PC...? Network share? If share, was it backed up? How important is this info that is lost? Is it worth $245..if so, you might want to call PSS. I don't think they'll charge if they can't help... Have you looked at Slipstick.com...? PST files blow, don't they...? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
The receive limit should always be set, high enough to not get in the way of business function, but low enough to save a server from a crash in case of a mail loop or malicious attack. This is advice from Microsoft. And I think it makes a lot of sense. It would have prevented a hard 3 day outage for one of our sister agencies a couple of years ago. Joel K. Osborn Information Systems Technical Specialist Wisconsin Department of Transportation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Why would you set a receive limit? Doesn't that impact business? The other limits I can understand, but the receive limit seems rater fzcked... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allison Wittstock Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Losing data after moving to Exchange server At 200MB, the user gets a warning that they are reaching the limit. At 250MB, the user cannot send any emails. At 300MB, the user cannot receive any emails. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Please define Mailbox size limit. What are your exact settings? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. Her .pst was opened temporarily to retreive her eMails, Calendar appoinments, etc for permanent storage in her Exchange Mailbox. During the moving of a large folder to the Server, she exceeded the size limit of her new mailbox. From what I heard (I was of course not in the office at the time), she did the equivalent of a move paste and not a copy paste. Allison Wittstock inubit AG On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: I think you are confused. The mailbox size limit does not apply to a PST. There is a 2GB limit on PSTs, though. Did your user blow up the PST by exceeding that? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Kevinm, Um, where is it written that it requires 7 times? Why do I not believe you? :) Allison Wittstock On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: Did you run it the required minimum of 7 times??? Then compact the file then run it some more. Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA ~~~ All spelling and Factual errors are the fault of Bob Barker ~~~ This space has been rented by: Http://www.tiggercam.co.uk For all your tigger needs You 2 can rent this space if you need it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allison Wittstock Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server This article didn't help, since the ScanPST program did not find any errors in the .pst. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Allison, You may have to concede on this one. Unless one of the grey beards has an idea, I don't see how you're going to recover that missing data. Excerpt form Q171371: On the View menu, click Folder List to turn on the Folder List view. In your Folder List, the following recovered folders should be displayed: - Recovered personal folders - Calendar - Contacts - Deleted Items - Inbox - Journal - Notes - Outbox - Sent Items - Tasks These folders are usually empty because the folders are part of a rebuilt .pst file. A Lost and Found folder should also be displayed. This folder contains the folders and items that the Inbox Repair Tool recovered. Any items that are missing are beyond repair. Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.a sp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Wll, how did they get delivered there? Was she on Internet Mail only prior? -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I think I have confused you? Or not explained myself. Her mails were on her .pst. Her Outlook was set up for using Exchange Server. She opened her old .pst temporarily, to move old eMails FROM the .pst TO the Server. From your explanation, I think you thought they were on the Server, then moved to .pst. On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: They had to be on some server at sometime, before they ended up in the PST on the User's HD. MailServerMail in Inbox on MailServer. Users starts client,mail leaves Inbox of Mailserver, gets delivered to inbox of PST. Go to the OLD Server Or where ever the mail was and try to recover what ever was lost via the Deleted Item Retention time and the dumpster always on Reg hack. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Can you explain how the deleted item retention would work, if the eMails probably weren't on the Server to begin with? I also looked on Slipstick.com, but the apps seemed to be for .psts that are corrupted. This one doesn't seem to be. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Second thoughtDo you buy chance have deleted item rention time turned on? If so, with the dumpster always on reg hack you should be able to recover at least mail for the amount of days you have retention time set... Where was the personal folder stored? PC...? Network share? If share, was it backed up? How important is this info that is lost? Is it worth $245..if so, you might want to call PSS. I don't think they'll charge if they can't help... Have you looked at Slipstick.com...? PST files blow, don't they...? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Because Sue Mosher says so, and she's never wrong. He's not kidding you, keep trying. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Kevinm, Um, where is it written that it requires 7 times? Why do I not believe you? :) Allison Wittstock On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: Did you run it the required minimum of 7 times??? Then compact the file then run it some more. Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA ~~~ All spelling and Factual errors are the fault of Bob Barker ~~~ This space has been rented by: Http://www.tiggercam.co.uk For all your tigger needs You 2 can rent this space if you need it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allison Wittstock Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server This article didn't help, since the ScanPST program did not find any errors in the .pst. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Allison, You may have to concede on this one. Unless one of the grey beards has an idea, I don't see how you're going to recover that missing data. Excerpt form Q171371: On the View menu, click Folder List to turn on the Folder List view. In your Folder List, the following recovered folders should be displayed: - Recovered personal folders - Calendar - Contacts - Deleted Items - Inbox - Journal - Notes - Outbox - Sent Items - Tasks These folders are usually empty because the folders are part of a rebuilt .pst file. A Lost and Found folder should also be displayed. This folder contains the folders and items that the Inbox Repair Tool recovered. Any items that are missing are beyond repair. Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.a sp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Allison, Fortunately, you haven't confused me, but I I think I may have confused you. Let me try again. Let's assume you have deleted item retention set for 30 days. Let's assume you have your mail clients configured to deliver New Mail to a PST file. Let's assume you have read and applied the Dumpster AlwaysON Reg Hack Q article. Having made those assumptions: You can open that user's mailbox on the server and recover anything that was once in the inbox on the Mail server for last 30 days. Still with me, or did I lose you again? If you want, we can take this off list. Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I think I have confused you? Or not explained myself. Her mails were on her .pst. Her Outlook was set up for using Exchange Server. She opened her old .pst temporarily, to move old eMails FROM the .pst TO the Server. From your explanation, I think you thought they were on the Server, then moved to .pst. On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: They had to be on some server at sometime, before they ended up in the PST on the User's HD. MailServerMail in Inbox on MailServer. Users starts client,mail leaves Inbox of Mailserver, gets delivered to inbox of PST. Go to the OLD Server Or where ever the mail was and try to recover what ever was lost via the Deleted Item Retention time and the dumpster always on Reg hack. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Can you explain how the deleted item retention would work, if the eMails probably weren't on the Server to begin with? I also looked on Slipstick.com, but the apps seemed to be for .psts that are corrupted. This one doesn't seem to be. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Second thoughtDo you buy chance have deleted item rention time turned on? If so, with the dumpster always on reg hack you should be able to recover at least mail for the amount of days you have retention time set... Where was the personal folder stored? PC...? Network share? If share, was it backed up? How important is this info that is lost? Is it worth $245..if so, you might want to call PSS. I don't think they'll charge if they can't help... Have you looked at Slipstick.com...? PST files blow, don't they...? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Thanks for getting my back on that one.. Trust us. PST=BAD there are reasons for that. ScanPST will find things after it has been run a few times and says nothing is wrong Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA ~~~ All spelling and Factual errors are the fault of Bob Barker ~~~ This space has been rented by: Http://www.tiggercam.co.uk For all your tigger needs You 2 can rent this space if you need it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hunter, Lori Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Because Sue Mosher says so, and she's never wrong. He's not kidding you, keep trying. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Kevinm, Um, where is it written that it requires 7 times? Why do I not believe you? :) Allison Wittstock On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: Did you run it the required minimum of 7 times??? Then compact the file then run it some more. Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA ~~~ All spelling and Factual errors are the fault of Bob Barker ~~~ This space has been rented by: Http://www.tiggercam.co.uk For all your tigger needs You 2 can rent this space if you need it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allison Wittstock Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server This article didn't help, since the ScanPST program did not find any errors in the .pst. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Allison, You may have to concede on this one. Unless one of the grey beards has an idea, I don't see how you're going to recover that missing data. Excerpt form Q171371: On the View menu, click Folder List to turn on the Folder List view. In your Folder List, the following recovered folders should be displayed: - Recovered personal folders - Calendar - Contacts - Deleted Items - Inbox - Journal - Notes - Outbox - Sent Items - Tasks These folders are usually empty because the folders are part of a rebuilt .pst file. A Lost and Found folder should also be displayed. This folder contains the folders and items that the Inbox Repair Tool recovered. Any items that are missing are beyond repair. Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my PS signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Yes. And she had the remove mail from Server option set on her client. n Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: Wll, how did they get delivered there? Was she on Internet Mail only prior? -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I think I have confused you? Or not explained myself. Her mails were on her .pst. Her Outlook was set up for using Exchange Server. She opened her old .pst temporarily, to move old eMails FROM the .pst TO the Server. From your explanation, I think you thought they were on the Server, then moved to .pst. On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: They had to be on some server at sometime, before they ended up in the PST on the User's HD. MailServerMail in Inbox on MailServer. Users starts client,mail leaves Inbox of Mailserver, gets delivered to inbox of PST. Go to the OLD Server Or where ever the mail was and try to recover what ever was lost via the Deleted Item Retention time and the dumpster always on Reg hack. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Can you explain how the deleted item retention would work, if the eMails probably weren't on the Server to begin with? I also looked on Slipstick.com, but the apps seemed to be for .psts that are corrupted. This one doesn't seem to be. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Second thoughtDo you buy chance have deleted item rention time turned on? If so, with the dumpster always on reg hack you should be able to recover at least mail for the amount of days you have retention time set... Where was the personal folder stored? PC...? Network share? If share, was it backed up? How important is this info that is lost? Is it worth $245..if so, you might want to call PSS. I don't think they'll charge if they can't help... Have you looked at Slipstick.com...? PST files blow, don't they...? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Often you have to throw in a couple runs of scandisk on that drive as well. No one likes it, and we've gone to great lengths to tell everyone why! -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Thanks for getting my back on that one.. Trust us. PST=BAD there are reasons for that. ScanPST will find things after it has been run a few times and says nothing is wrong Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA ~~~ All spelling and Factual errors are the fault of Bob Barker ~~~ This space has been rented by: Http://www.tiggercam.co.uk For all your tigger needs You 2 can rent this space if you need it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hunter, Lori Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Because Sue Mosher says so, and she's never wrong. He's not kidding you, keep trying. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Kevinm, Um, where is it written that it requires 7 times? Why do I not believe you? :) Allison Wittstock On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: Did you run it the required minimum of 7 times??? Then compact the file then run it some more. Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA ~~~ All spelling and Factual errors are the fault of Bob Barker ~~~ This space has been rented by: Http://www.tiggercam.co.uk For all your tigger needs You 2 can rent this space if you need it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allison Wittstock Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server This article didn't help, since the ScanPST program did not find any errors in the .pst. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Allison, You may have to concede on this one. Unless one of the grey beards has an idea, I don't see how you're going to recover that missing data. Excerpt form Q171371: On the View menu, click Folder List to turn on the Folder List view. In your Folder List, the following recovered folders should be displayed: - Recovered personal folders - Calendar - Contacts - Deleted Items - Inbox - Journal - Notes - Outbox - Sent Items - Tasks These folders are usually empty because the folders are part of a rebuilt .pst file. A Lost and Found folder should also be displayed. This folder contains the folders and items that the Inbox Repair Tool recovered. Any items that are missing are beyond repair. Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my PS signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
And the internet mail was delivered to the PST by your Exchange server? I think DumpsterAlwaysOn will do it unless this was a connection directly to the ISP. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Yes. And she had the remove mail from Server option set on her client. n Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: Wll, how did they get delivered there? Was she on Internet Mail only prior? -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I think I have confused you? Or not explained myself. Her mails were on her .pst. Her Outlook was set up for using Exchange Server. She opened her old .pst temporarily, to move old eMails FROM the .pst TO the Server. From your explanation, I think you thought they were on the Server, then moved to .pst. On Thu, 04 Oct 2001, you wrote: They had to be on some server at sometime, before they ended up in the PST on the User's HD. MailServerMail in Inbox on MailServer. Users starts client,mail leaves Inbox of Mailserver, gets delivered to inbox of PST. Go to the OLD Server Or where ever the mail was and try to recover what ever was lost via the Deleted Item Retention time and the dumpster always on Reg hack. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Can you explain how the deleted item retention would work, if the eMails probably weren't on the Server to begin with? I also looked on Slipstick.com, but the apps seemed to be for .psts that are corrupted. This one doesn't seem to be. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Second thoughtDo you buy chance have deleted item rention time turned on? If so, with the dumpster always on reg hack you should be able to recover at least mail for the amount of days you have retention time set... Where was the personal folder stored? PC...? Network share? If share, was it backed up? How important is this info that is lost? Is it worth $245..if so, you might want to call PSS. I don't think they'll charge if they can't help... Have you looked at Slipstick.com...? PST files blow, don't they...? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
I don't know, Don-- I set a prohibit receive limit at about three times the prohibit send limit to help protect against mail loops. Mike Morrison NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator Ben Jerry's Homemade, Inc. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Why would you set a receive limit? Doesn't that impact business? The other limits I can understand, but the receive limit seems rater fzcked... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allison Wittstock Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Losing data after moving to Exchange server At 200MB, the user gets a warning that they are reaching the limit. At 250MB, the user cannot send any emails. At 300MB, the user cannot receive any emails. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Please define Mailbox size limit. What are your exact settings? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. Her .pst was opened temporarily to retreive her eMails, Calendar appoinments, etc for permanent storage in her Exchange Mailbox. During the moving of a large folder to the Server, she exceeded the size limit of her new mailbox. From what I heard (I was of course not in the office at the time), she did the equivalent of a move paste and not a copy paste. Allison Wittstock inubit AG On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: I think you are confused. The mailbox size limit does not apply to a PST. There is a 2GB limit on PSTs, though. Did your user blow up the PST by exceeding that? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Alright, I'll give ya that one... Although, if I have the IMC configured to not allow anything that could potentially create a loop, I'd be safe too. Hmmm... This is ponderous man... Really ponderous. ;o) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Morrison Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I don't know, Don-- I set a prohibit receive limit at about three times the prohibit send limit to help protect against mail loops. Mike Morrison NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator Ben Jerry's Homemade, Inc. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Why would you set a receive limit? Doesn't that impact business? The other limits I can understand, but the receive limit seems rater fzcked... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allison Wittstock Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Losing data after moving to Exchange server At 200MB, the user gets a warning that they are reaching the limit. At 250MB, the user cannot send any emails. At 300MB, the user cannot receive any emails. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Please define Mailbox size limit. What are your exact settings? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. Her .pst was opened temporarily to retreive her eMails, Calendar appoinments, etc for permanent storage in her Exchange Mailbox. During the moving of a large folder to the Server, she exceeded the size limit of her new mailbox. From what I heard (I was of course not in the office at the time), she did the equivalent of a move paste and not a copy paste. Allison Wittstock inubit AG On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: I think you are confused. The mailbox size limit does not apply to a PST. There is a 2GB limit on PSTs, though. Did your user blow up the PST by exceeding that? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Attachments ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Allison Wittstock Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 06:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Ed, The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. Her .pst was opened temporarily to retreive her eMails, Calendar appoinments, etc for permanent storage in her Exchange Mailbox. During the moving of a large folder to the Server, she exceeded the size limit of her new mailbox. From what I heard (I was of course not in the office at the time), she did the equivalent of a move paste and not a copy paste. Allison Wittstock inubit AG On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: I think you are confused. The mailbox size limit does not apply to a PST. There is a 2GB limit on PSTs, though. Did your user blow up the PST by exceeding that? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Allison, You may have to concede on this one. Unless one of the grey beards has an idea, I don't see how you're going to recover that missing data. Excerpt form Q171371: On the View menu, click Folder List to turn on the Folder List view. In your Folder List, the following recovered folders should be displayed: - Recovered personal folders - Calendar - Contacts - Deleted Items - Inbox - Journal - Notes - Outbox - Sent Items - Tasks These folders are usually empty because the folders are part of a rebuilt .pst file. A Lost and Found folder should also be displayed. This folder contains the folders and items that the Inbox Repair Tool recovered. Any items that are missing are beyond repair. Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG ___ __ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Second thoughtDo you buy chance have deleted item rention time turned on? If so, with the dumpster always on reg hack you should be able to recover at least mail for the amount of days you have retention time set... Where was the personal folder stored? PC...? Network share? If share, was it backed up? How important is this info that is lost? Is it worth $245..if so, you might want to call PSS. I don't think they'll charge if they can't help... Have you looked at Slipstick.com...? PST files blow, don't they...? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG ___ __ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Please define Mailbox size limit. What are your exact settings? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. Her .pst was opened temporarily to retreive her eMails, Calendar appoinments, etc for permanent storage in her Exchange Mailbox. During the moving of a large folder to the Server, she exceeded the size limit of her new mailbox. From what I heard (I was of course not in the office at the time), she did the equivalent of a move paste and not a copy paste. Allison Wittstock inubit AG On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: I think you are confused. The mailbox size limit does not apply to a PST. There is a 2GB limit on PSTs, though. Did your user blow up the PST by exceeding that? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
At 200MB, the user gets a warning that they are reaching the limit. At 250MB, the user cannot send any emails. At 300MB, the user cannot receive any emails. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Please define Mailbox size limit. What are your exact settings? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. Her .pst was opened temporarily to retreive her eMails, Calendar appoinments, etc for permanent storage in her Exchange Mailbox. During the moving of a large folder to the Server, she exceeded the size limit of her new mailbox. From what I heard (I was of course not in the office at the time), she did the equivalent of a move paste and not a copy paste. Allison Wittstock inubit AG On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: I think you are confused. The mailbox size limit does not apply to a PST. There is a 2GB limit on PSTs, though. Did your user blow up the PST by exceeding that? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
The folders were not shared. The .pst was on the user's harddrive. No backups of it exist. (I will not mention that my HOWTO's first step was to backup the .pst file) I will answer the rest of the questions on Thursday, as tomorrow is a holiday (Reunification Day) and I leave work right now. Until then, Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Second thoughtDo you buy chance have deleted item rention time turned on? If so, with the dumpster always on reg hack you should be able to recover at least mail for the amount of days you have retention time set... Where was the personal folder stored? PC...? Network share? If share, was it backed up? How important is this info that is lost? Is it worth $245..if so, you might want to call PSS. I don't think they'll charge if they can't help... Have you looked at Slipstick.com...? PST files blow, don't they...? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG ___ __ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Restore the PST from the last backup. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server I have opened the file, but I do not see a Lost Found folder. I tried to count the items, and I can account for about 2/3's of the 2697 items. Her deleted items were ALL of her emails. Is there anything else I can do to this .pst to recover the lost items? They have to be somewhere, no? Yes, I have seen your quote, but the fact is, I'm the Administrator and I am expected to solve any technical problem for my users. Allison Wittstock On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote: Could be...I've seen users with Tens of thousands of items and only have 25MB. On the other hand I've seen users with about a few hundred items and be well over 400MB. You will have to open up the file and look. Also, look for a Lost Found folder in the Scanned PST. PS Have you seen the Jim Schwartz quote below my signature? Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server ScanPST did not find any errors. But, it found 19 folders and 2697 Objects. Does this sound right for a PST that is about 370MB? She has a Contact list with 800 contacts, and some Calendars that are not so large. Could it be the missing data is somehow 'hidden' in the .pst? On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote: Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL
RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
Make a copy of the file, then run ScanPST on it. If it's successful. Try importing the messages into exchange instead of moving them... Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Losing data after moving to Exchange server Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Losing data after moving to Exchange server
I think you are confused. The mailbox size limit does not apply to a PST. There is a 2GB limit on PSTs, though. Did your user blow up the PST by exceeding that? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Allison Wittstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode to Corporate Workgroup mode, to utilize the new Exchange (2k) server. The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB. She opened her .pst (in Outlook 2k) to move data from it to her new mailbox. Her .pst exceeded the limit by a hundred MBs. The last folder she moved was very large, and during this move she exceeded the mailbox size limit. The move was unsuccessful, but now the data is neither in the old .pst nor the Exchange mailbox Folder she was trying to move it to. In her deleted Objects Folder there is the Folder she tried to move, but it is empty, and none of the Sub-folders are there. Is there any way to recover this data? Where is the data? I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I am not working with English language clients or Server. Thank you, A. Wittstock inubit AG _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
