[expert] Only root can use dri how to fix it?

2002-02-19 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, For some reason I dont know but today when I run bzflags as normal user, things are terribly slow ; even I have to reset the computer, I guess something wrong with dri. After reboot, I try to run it as root and it is good. Some permission is wrong but I dont know how to fix it; probably the m

[expert] Mouse flicky wacky :-)

2002-02-12 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I dont know if some one has ; in one of my box, amd athlon Duron 900Mn, S3 savagepro video card (I have to use the latest savage_drv.o to work,not working by default in Mandrake 8.1) . The problem is with the mouse movement, If the setting by KDE default, (accel 2 threadshold 2) it is too s

[expert] Shell scripting question

2002-02-05 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, How can I tell ls to display the "\ " in a file name or directory name" Usually if I do mkdir Test\ This ls Test This How can I tell ls to make its output as a continuous string like "Test\ This" Well the real problem is ; I want to convert every mp3 file in a directory to ogg vorbis,

[expert] Mozilla 0.9.7 question

2002-02-05 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, Is there any way to tell mozilla not to unzip a tar.gz file when downloading (save link as) ? I try edit preferences and helper application file type but it doesn;t show any hint, just two file types there and not the tar.gz one, why mozilla always runs helper to extract and save and the def

Re: [expert] System freeze on kernel compilation

2002-02-04 Thread Steve Kieu
> 5. Run 'make modules_install && make install'. I nerver did that, I just 'make modules_install' and manually copy the bzImage file from arch/i386/boot to /boot and manually modify lilo.conf. always work :-) > > This process used to work perfectly, but now the > process freezes my whole > co

Re: [expert] Memory leak?

2002-02-02 Thread Steve Kieu
--- David Guntner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Kieu grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > The VM in the kernel 2.4.x has problems this is a > > _hot_ topic in the LKML; so the kernel in MDK8.1 > > > > >From my experience I use 2.4.13 and it is q

Re: [expert] Memory leak?

2002-02-02 Thread Steve Kieu
The VM in the kernel 2.4.x has problems this is a _hot_ topic in the LKML; so the kernel in MDK8.1 >From my experience I use 2.4.13 and it is quite good in terms of VM management. Try it first. Regard --- David Guntner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm running 8.1. > > After starting my syste

[expert] Mozilla 0.9.7 for mdk 8.1?

2002-01-31 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi I am looking for mozilla-0.9.7 for mandrake 8.1 ; if any one knows where or compiled it sucessfully from cooker source pls let me know. I try to compile from source but it gave me segmentation fault when it nearly finshed the compilation. And binary package from cooker depends a lot of other

[expert] sb driver suported?

2002-01-27 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, This is not running in mdk8.1 as the machine is too old, 486 100Mh box 18Mb RAM, and a sound card (I am not sure its type) working with sb.o driver in OSS Free (the linux kernel) . I am trying to use it with alsa but no success so far, tried using snd-card-sb8.o ; snd-card-sb16.o , snd-card-

Re: [expert] urpmi problems

2002-01-27 Thread Steve Kieu
I got it ; I think we should file a bug report to mdk; its MandrakeUpdate for 8.1 is really buggy. I have to reinstall from scratch and now I still can not update, (If I use it is back). Just use it to install packages from cdrom ; --- NDPTAL85 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For some reaso

[expert] Package for Printting Unicode document

2002-01-23 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, Which packages in mdk 8.1 needed to print a utf8 html page and retain its WYSIWYG , ? I got several pages using utf8 and truetype font Times-New Roman. It is displayed correctly in both Mozilla and Konqueror but when print out, it is not, Thanks a lot in advance = S.KIEU http://my.y

Re: [expert] Recording vcd's

2002-01-19 Thread Steve Kieu
> > Also what app's are used to build vcd's under linux? I heard of vcdimager, it is quite nice tool > All the > instructions I have found so far depend on xawtv to > create a .mov to > start the process, or have difficulties in one area > or another for me - > high processor usage, low fra

[expert] Is there any update for kppp?

2002-01-16 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, kppp has its known memory leak bug but I am not sure if there is any update / fix or work around this bug for Mandrake 8.1 Thanks = S.KIEU http://my.yahoo.com.au - My Yahoo! - It's My Yahoo! Get your own! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mand

Re: [expert] xine problems.

2002-01-16 Thread Steve Kieu
--- Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I downloaded everything I need to install xine > 0.9.7-3 (cooker rpms). > Installed all the plugins etc. now when I want to > play a divx file sometimes > the frames just hang during a video. Also sometimes > it takes 10 secons or so > before I hear soun

[expert] Best mp3 encoder ?

2002-01-16 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I was confused, lame package in mdk is not mp3 encoder :-) and the name is so confusing. I compile lame from source but when running it gave segmentation fault after working for a while, just wondering what is the best mp3 encoding should I use? bladeenc included in mdk but last time I try,

Re: [expert] Can not play music CD with alsa

2002-01-15 Thread Steve Kieu
--- Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WinME does not need the cable to play Audio CD's > From Win ME onwatds Windows Media PLayer uses the Yes u are rigth, I tested this > IDE interface to play CD's. > Some cheapskate manufacturers now save themselves > 10p by not supplying the > cab

[expert] Can not play music CD with alsa

2002-01-15 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I have searched the bug database in alsa site but found nothing similar, the thing is very strange. I got via686a card ; two cd using ide-scsi for all as one is cd-writer, alsa-0.5.12a ; everyhting is fine (play xmms, etc..) except cd music doesn't play no matter I try. When iserting music c

[expert] Printer question.

2002-01-14 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, The printer I got is Epson Stylus C60, and it is supported with CUPS+gimp-print-4.2.0 . If I run Printer from Control Center it doesn't list this printer. So I pull a gimp-print source code, compile it with cups ; but after that I can not see the entry in Printerdrake as well as access the

Re: [expert] nvidia mkd8.1 question SOLVED

2002-01-14 Thread Steve Kieu
> Steve Kieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> grumbled this: > > Anyhow here is the link to the site I forgot to add > to the last email: > > http://www.evil3d.net/articles/linux/howto/nvidia/mandrake8/ Yeas I checked that site read info there, but no file to download ; When reading

RE: [expert] nvidia mkd8.1 question

2002-01-14 Thread Steve Kieu
g file (when start X I got a NVIDIA splash screen. > you haven't done that you are still using the > original Linux drivers. Check > out www.mandrakeforum.org site or www.nvidia.com and > look for documentation > for the drivers. > > -Original Message- > From:

[expert] nvidia mkd8.1 question

2002-01-14 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi all, When installing mdk8.1 it suggests that I should use XFree 3.3.6 if I want 3 D accelation with this cards Riva TNT2, I did and some program (game) using OpenGL doesn't work, (some work!) Then I read from the web that nvidia has its own driver and works with 4.1.0 ; admit that XFree 4.1.x

Re: [expert] Java Virtual Machine problem

2002-01-13 Thread Steve Kieu
Thanks the problem turns out to be rather stupid :-) but I did not find it out, then reading your hint, > create a symbolic link to matches your java version > /usr/bin/java -> > /usr/java/jre1.3.1_02/bin/.java_wrapper /usr/bin/java exists and it is a wrapper to run kaffe in Mandrake, not my jd

[expert] Java Virtual Machine problem

2002-01-13 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I guess that there are many people having no problem with jdk but I have, that is strange; Any way, here is what I did, I got a machine running debian woody and install jdk1.3.1_01 in /usr/local; I make a tar.bz2 of the directory and extract it to /usr/local in the mandrake machine. Insall

Re: [expert] Video card help urgent pls,

2002-01-12 Thread Steve Kieu
or the response > download the newest Xfree packages. These will solve > your problems with > the driver. Then boot into X and go from there. > > Nelson > > On Fri, 2002-01-11 at 16:24, Steve Kieu wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I would like to know i

[expert] Video card help urgent pls,

2002-01-11 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I would like to know if the card S3 ProSavage KM133 is supported by Mandrake and if yes how or which documentation for setting it up; Thanks alot = S.KIEU http://my.yahoo.com.au - My Yahoo! - It's My Yahoo! Get your own! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go t

Re: [expert] What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV

2002-01-08 Thread Steve Kieu
--- Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on > my TV > In other words. Which video card has the best > tv-out support in Linux? > > Please do not reply with theoretical bullshit, but > would like to hear some > practical examples. > IF you say so,

[expert] Xine and mplayer in mandrake 8.1?

2001-12-25 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I got several problem with xine and mplayer with mdk 8.1 with my friend machine. Xine; compile latest version and install ok; but crash the whole system in my friend comp (intel pentium 3 S3 savage4 rev 2 according to the XFree86 log file in /var/log ) not leave any messages at all the sys

[expert] Mandrake in low mem machine.

2001-12-24 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, My friend has a pentium 100Mh box with only 16Mb ram. I need an advice on how to install mandrake 8.1 on this machine, is it possible? Probably I need to install in text mode? By the way I would like to ask if any one has the same problem, that is if I install Mandrake using the recommende

[expert] epson stylus c60 in mandrake 8.1 help

2001-12-22 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, This printer is marked as fully supported but I can not see the entry when using mandrake printter tool, pls help = S.KIEU http://my.yahoo.com.au - My Yahoo! - It's My Yahoo! Get your own! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

[expert] $REMOTEHOST in mdk 8.1 question

2001-12-07 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, Whenever I login from other machine, the variable $REMOTEHOST is set to the hostname of that machine, but it is not in Mandrake. How can I enable this? Thanks = S.KIEU http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping - Free CDs for thousands of Priority Shoppers! Want to buy your P

Re: [expert] Ext2 -> ReiserFS ?

2001-08-06 Thread Steve Kieu
--- "Julia A. Case" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting John W ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I am about 99% sure that ext2 cannot be converted > to reiserFS. > > I am sure if I am wrong someone will correct me > and offer the help you need. > > > > ReiserFS can not be converted from ext2, you have

Re: [expert] Ext2 -> ReiserFS ?

2001-08-05 Thread Steve Kieu
--- Lars Roland Kristiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Sevatio wrote: > > > I'm considering a switch from Ext2 to ReiserFS or > anything better than > > Ext2. Currently I'm LM8.0. What's your opinion > on the stability of the > > Reiser File System? Is there an improve

[expert] Where can I find glu.h

2001-08-01 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I need to compile a program it needs the header glu.h Well nothing in /usr/include/GL/glu.h. I installed the devel packages for XFree86 (build from source XFree86-4.1.0-7mdk.src.rpm Do I need to install it separately (the Open GL package? ). Thought it should be in XFree-devel package. Int

[expert] build XFree86 error, pls help

2001-07-30 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I got the error when building XFree86-4.1.0-7mdk.src.rpm + find xc/doc/hardcopy -name '*.PS' + xargs gzip -f + groff -Tascii -ms xc/doc/misc/RELNOTES.ms troff: fatal error: can't find macro file s Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.98163 (%build) what is the cause and how to fix? thank

[expert] Is this video card supported in LM 8.0?

2001-07-28 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, my friend got , here is I read from windowz Diamond Stealth III/Speedstar A200 and printer Lexmax 3200 I have not found such entry in Mandrake hardware list, dont know whether it is supported. I am going to search it in XFree86.org now but your help is very welcome. Thanks. = S.KIEU

Re: [expert] Intel 82810e...

2001-07-09 Thread Steve Kieu
install starts > the graphics are a really low resolution. The last > time that I installed in > that graphics "mode" I couldn't get X to run. What > do you think? > > Thank you, > Vincent A. Primavera > > - Original Message - >

Re: [expert] Intel 82810e...

2001-07-09 Thread Steve Kieu
I know i810 is very lame chipset but if you got it so make it works is not hard. XFree 4.0.3 support this out of the box with 3 d acceleration (butno AA font). XFree 4.1.0 is completed this part. For me things are smooth with the LM 8.0 installation (yes the ugly low resolution in install program

Re: [expert] Intel 82810e...

2001-07-09 Thread Steve Kieu
--- "Vincent A. Primavera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > Is anyone out there using an Intel 82810e video I dont know, from harddrake I got Vendor: Intel Corporation Model: 810 (generic)82810 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] Bus Type: PCI but it is not e :-) but it is the same

[expert] Install LM8.0 with XFS

2001-07-08 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, XFS is quite fast and stable. But I am struggling to find ways to install it with LM8.0 install program. At the moment I have to install it onto ext2 partition and then cp -a all files into the XFS partition. The question is how to make the installation program in Lm8.0 understand XFS. I try

RE: [expert] upgraded to XFree86-4.1.0

2001-07-06 Thread Steve Kieu
I fisrt upgrade to 4.1.0; when installing it asked perl (strict) required. thought it should be fine without it I use nodeps ; it goes well no problem. Then I try to build from source rpm. all go well (you have to have the latest Glide header and library from source forge, ) and install new rpm

[expert] zomie proceses -Mod_Meta_L_Disa `-true

2001-07-04 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, when I run top I discovered that there are usually two zombies and it is -Mod_Meta_L_Disa | `-true dont know why and what causes it? they are child proceses of gnome-session thanks in advance = S.KIEU __

Re: [expert] need suggessions

2001-07-03 Thread Steve Kieu
--- syed irfan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello > > i want to make an mp3 player > i have some 486 66 mhz with 16 mb ram with 2.1 gb Before I got a box 100Mhz 32 Mb RAM and I still have to use option -2 in the commandline mpg123 and it worked fine. Of course all other player using GUI like xm

Re: [expert] tar question

2001-07-01 Thread Steve Kieu
> On 01 Jul 2001 13:38:02 -0700, Julia A. Case wrote: > > Is tar limited to files of 2GB? I upgraded my > filesystem from ext2 to > > reiserfs to jfs and am still having trouble with Sorry not to mention about your topic but it comes to my attention that you are using jfs, just from my own expe

Re: [expert] rpm --rebuild is not working

2001-07-01 Thread Steve Kieu
> > And also, once that is done, try > > rpm -ivh file.src.rpm well, why I dont have to do that, I usually rpm --rebuild source.rpm ; it will extract soucre, run configure or whatever , make it and buil rpm binary package put it in /usr/src/RPM/.; I only run rpm -ivh for the newly built pa

Re: [expert] Precompiled kernel in 8.0 has AGP enabled?

2001-06-30 Thread Steve Kieu
I say yes you can check in /boot/config-2.4.3-20mdk mine, i810 use AGP and DRI, it is fine --- Steve Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've just switched from an ATI Xpert 98 (8Mb. PCI) > to an Xpert 2000 > (32Mb. AGP) video card. Now Xwindows won't start, > although I've run > Xconfigurato

Re: [expert] kernel: VFS: busy inodes on changed media.

2001-06-28 Thread Steve Kieu
I would suggest you check the /etc/fstab ; may be some *stupid* :-) configuration tool modify it and it is not right. For supermount it should look like this /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/hdb 0 0 /dev/floppy /dev/floppy supermount fs=msdos,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 replace with you

Re: [expert] bash_profile and /etc/profile don't work?

2001-06-25 Thread Steve Kieu
As for me I added the following line into $HOME/.bash_profile export PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin" It works. --- mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This does not work for me, which is not surprising. > > perhaps export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/BMRT/bin > better set PATH=$

[expert] Unresolved symbols in custom muilt kernel

2001-06-25 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I am sure somebody has reported this but I dont have the answer yet :-); I installed the kernel source rpm -ivh kernel-source-2.4.3-20mdk.i586.rpm then cd /usr/src/linux make mrproper make menuconfig select config I want save the config at /boot/config-2.4.3-20mdk after make a backup

Re: [expert] compiling mandrake8 kernel

2001-06-24 Thread Steve Kieu
> sets up /etc/modules.conf which is used to make an > initial ram > disk that loads the modules it needs. Well in my case I just edit lilo.conf and not using initrd any more and I found no problem so far...; What do you think? > Now, did you move the modules to the appropriate > place fo

[expert] Use Java in Konqueror problem

2001-06-23 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I can not make java work in konqueror, when I load an applet it seems that it displayed outside the konqueror window and dissappeared quickly. The applet area in konqueror window remains blank. If enable java console, no error message given. I install JDK 1.3.0 from Blackdown Java and use the

[expert] What does Perl(strict) means ? (installing XFree 4.1.0 from cooker)

2001-06-23 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, When I install XFree-4.1.0 from cooker, one of the required package I saw from command line is Perl (strict) required, I dont understand which version of kind of perl it asks for :-) Anyway I use --nodeps, it still works but just a question to satisfy RPM Thanks, = S.KIEU __

[expert] XFree86 4.1.0 question?

2001-06-20 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi all, Has anyone tried it yet? I just woder if AA fonts for i810 is supported, from their realease note it only says: * more drivers converted to use the 'fb' layer and render extension (and thus supporting anti-aliased TT fonts) but not sure which card ? Thanks... = S.KIEU __

Re: [expert] GNU-Cash nightmare..... Pls Help me out .

2001-06-19 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I just upgraded to python 2.1 and it works ok by now. Thanks = S.KIEU _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more!

Re: [expert] GNU-Cash nightmare..... Pls Help me out .

2001-06-19 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I just upgraded to python 2.1 and it works ok by now. Thanks = S.KIEU _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more!

Re: [expert] GNU-Cash nightmare..... Pls Help me out .

2001-06-19 Thread Steve Kieu
on2.0" then the first line gone but the rest is still... here are the packages I downloaded and install: libguppi11-0.35.5-6mdk.i586.rpm gnucash-1.6.0-1.i586.rpm g-wrap-1.1.10-2mdk.i586.rpm Thank you for your help --- Arnold Troeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Kieu wrote: >

Re: [expert] GNU-Cash nightmare..... Pls Help me out .

2001-06-19 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I fixed that problem but anohter one follows, in fact I am dissapointed with guppi, dont know if they release stable release it should not be like that. Configure scripts doesn't detect system correctly, after running configure without problem, there are many when running make. Like libdb1 ;

[expert] GNU-Cash nightmare..... Pls Help me out .

2001-06-18 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, It is really a nightmare. I downloaded gnugnucash-1.6.0-1.i586.rpm from gnucash site and happy to see that it is packaged for LM 8.0; Install it using rpm, after satisfying all dependancies ; But when I start gnucash it says: about not defined PYTHONHOME bla bla..; I search and find that man

[expert] Recommended usable Free OCR program for Linux?

2001-06-17 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi All, I did not even test the comercial one ( I have heard somewhere...) but still suspect its quality. Using gocr is very very dissapointing, it takes so long long time to process a simple page and the out put is unreadable. I still dont understand why they call gocr as beta software? IMO its

[expert] Gimp crashes in LM 8.0

2001-06-14 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I tried to run in the xterm to see any messages; here is [sk@steve sk]$ gimp & [1] 1592 [sk@steve sk]$ LibGimp-WARNING **: script-fu: wire_read: unexpected EOF [1]+ Segmentation fault gimp It happens whenever I click the draw ink or dot pecil etc.. in the tool box. Strange ! How to

[expert] 3D rendering in Star Office 5.2 problem

2001-06-12 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi all, I dont know if any one having this problem, ; I ran Star Draw from star office 5.2; whenever I insert or draw a 3 d object ; the screen became totally (or nearly) black. The program doesn't crash though, it is still responsive ... ; I did not happen with star 5.1 in the same situation.

Re: [expert] Xlib: extension "RENDER" missing on display ":0.0"?

2001-06-11 Thread Steve Kieu
Rage 3). In its > self this should not be a problem for you, unless > you want AA. > > Nick. > > Steve Kieu wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I got this message when I started konqueror in > xterm ; > > Usually all KDE application in my computer has

[expert] Xlib: extension "RENDER" missing on display ":0.0"?

2001-06-11 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi all, I got this message when I started konqueror in xterm ; Usually all KDE application in my computer has the problem with the title bar and some times in the toolbars too, it has several black (or color) strips. If I started konqueror in the xterm, it doesn't have that (at least until now).

[expert] Xlib: extension "RENDER" missing on display ":0.0"?

2001-06-11 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi all, I got this message when I started konqueror in xterm ; Usually all KDE application in my computer has the problem with the title bar and some times in the toolbars too, it has several black (or color) strips. If I started konqueror in the xterm, it doesn't have that (at least until now).

[expert] Which package provide in.comsat in LM8.0 ?

2001-06-10 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi there, I could not find it out; pls help Regards = S.KIEU _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more!

[expert] Configure problem...

2001-06-09 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I can not compile xine from source, the configure scripts failed ; here is the message checking for IMLIB - version >= 1.9.5... no *** Could not run IMLIB test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occure

[expert] GS in LM 8 compiled with truetype support?

2001-06-08 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I am trying to tell ghostcript to use truetype, I ran ttfontmap (a script to get the truetype font name and >> gsfont map file) and edit the alias in gs map file but it still refuse to work. DOnt know how, got stuck, if someone knows pls tell me, much appriciate your help Regards, Steve ==

[expert] gcc-2.96 problem...

2001-06-07 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, I got error when trying to compile the kernel using gcc 2.96; just wonder if I can install gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm and use it instead. Thank in advance ! = S.KIEU _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mess

[expert] Java plugin in Mozilla

2001-06-06 Thread Steve Kieu
hi, sorry i did not type the subject correctly :-) in last post. > Hi, > > well I installed java plugin when mozilla ask me to > do, but it failled. then I download the > j2sdk-1_3_1-linux-rpm.bin from Sun, Install it, > etc...; now Java in Mozilla works (I test it with > all > the demo) but on

[expert]

2001-06-06 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi, well I installed java plugin when mozilla ask me to do, but it failled. then I download the j2sdk-1_3_1-linux-rpm.bin from Sun, Install it, etc...; now Java in Mozilla works (I test it with all the demo) but only in http://chat.yahoo.com/ this applet causes Mozilla crashed. dont know it is mo