Re: [expert] 9.2 and BootDisk
Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: Forgive me if this has been discussed. I tried it with 3 different machines, 4 different floppies. A Error Occurred. mkbootdisk failed or Unable to properly close mkbootdisk, No space left on device My problem is that I have dualboot scenarios..with winblows.and its boot loader HAS to remain the default for some internal reasons. So linux is at /dev/hda7 Usually I create a bootdisk during istall, and use it to get back in linux, after perform a dd of the bootsector. Is this a known problem? _Thanks Richard The kernel has got too big to fit on a floppy. There is some attention being paid to this on cooker but I don't see that changing in the near future. You could recompile a smaller kernel. I have made a boot iso, burned to cd, which works as a boot cd, by using isolinux, part of the syslinux package. Read /usr/share/doc/sylinux-* and, if you are interested, I could try to recall how I made this iso. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Interesting problems installing 9.2 on desktop
Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [..] The biggest problem, and it is unacceptable, is that I could not get 9.2 to format my partitions as ReiserFS. 9.0 and 9.1 could. SuSE 9.0 could. 9.2 would error out almost immediately as soon as it tried to format any partition as ReiserFS. I got stuck with ext3 (yech!). Because I am not happy with my partition scheme and a few other problems - like not setting my /var partition large enough - I will be reinstalling 9.2 once again on this system. It looks like I will need to first start installing 9.1 or SuSE again so I can get my HDD partitions formatted as ReiserFS and then terminate the install and then start an install with the 9.2 CDs and elect NOT to format any partitions. Has anyone else run into a similar problem with 9.2 and ReiserFS? I frequently get problems with formatting partitions as reiserfs. When using mkreiserfs, there is a message to reboot after using fdisk, which I tend to think is related. At least, in every case that was a problem for me, after creating partitions and choosing to format reiserfs in diskdrake, the partitions are not formatted as reiserfs. What I do is reboot, usually do a mkreiserfs on the command line, and all works after that. I have done this during an install, also, after creating partitions, reboot, and I believe diskdrake will do the reiserfs format at that point. The install can then be completed. Rolf praedor - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/s523aKr9sJYeTxgRAggpAJ9FEpL2kjS57CxX+JkQZLWntO6AcACeLVWz CCPAwaXm7UmqFbF/zBSzf1U= =h1wG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] club cont urpmi
Richard Bown wrote: I was referring to the club contribs as listed on the club download page, all I get is this, this site goes a little further but never downloads [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# urpmi.addmedia -h ftp.physics.auth.gr_devel ftp://ftp.physics.auth.gr/pub/mirrors/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/unsupported unable to take medium contrib_ftp.club-internet.fr_i586_9.1 into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.contrib_ftp.club-internet.fr_i586_9.1] exists This looks, at first glance, like the problem with the Club urpmi scripts not giving a proper command to use. When I have had to deal with this before, I went to the url, which is several levels above the pertinent RPMS or i586 directory, and drill down to where the rpm packages are. Then, take the rest of the url and add it to the command, after unsupported: /MandrakeClub/9.2/i586, for example. I have not used the -h switch but do 'with hdlist.cz' after the url to point to the hdlist.cz file in the i586 directory. The -h switch would probably work, once you give the correctly specified rpms directory. The rest of the errors about not being able to find the list file for other sources, I believe, might be a result of running this malformed addmedia command. You might want to remove them with urpmi.removemedia contrib_ftp.club-internet.fr_i586_9.1, for example. Rolf TIA Richard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] programms disapearing..
Markus Gonaus wrote: Am Fre, den 07.11.2003 schrieb Vtucatz elPunishar um 03:48: that would be ugly :( but whats speaking against that is that if i re-install X, the XFree86 binary is still not there. well, here is what i did, perhaps someone can tell me if that was good and if it should suffice or if i have to do something else.. rpm -e XFree86 urpmi XFree86 That sounds pretty much like a adore compromised system. After reinstalling, the binaries have to be there. If you cant find them, somthiong is hiding them. Get chkrootkit, compile it, and run chkproc. I guess, you will get: Siginvisible Adore found. $ urpmq --sources chkrootkit file://contrib/i586/chkrootkit-0.41-1mdk.i586.rpm chkrootkit is in contrib/ You can add a contrib source with urpmi.setup or here: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/ Rolf Markuis Gonaus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] sound in 9.2
Jack Coates wrote: You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an actual problem, but here goes :-) Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock 2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, run sound server with realtime priority is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not KDE). XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the use realtime priority flag is set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's use realtime priority flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810 laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static and frequently played at the wrong frequency. Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building. Con Kolivas wrote about how renicing X to -10, as is currently done by default, can cause choppiness in the 2.6 kernels and, further in the thread, he recommends not doing it for any kernel. Don't know if this will help your situation but might be a heads up. His subsequent post also details how to change this setting. http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mozilla flash and shockwave plugins not working in MDK9.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've just installed MDK9.2 with the upadtes w/o problems. However, I can't make flash (and shockwave was unavailable for MDK9.2) plugins work in Mozilla. I eve tried to install an rpm from http://macromedia.rediris.es/site_ri.html but didn't work, either. Any clues as to how solve this. Anybody had the same problem? TIA Rafa Valencia, Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ urpmq --sources jre file://mnt/hd/Mandrake/RPMS4/j2re-1.4.2_01-1mdk.i586.rpm /j2re-1.4.2_01-1mdk.i586.rpm [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ urpmq --sources FlashPlayer file://mnt/hd/Mandrake/RPMS4/FlashPlayer-6.0-4mdk.i586.rpm /FlashPlayer-6.0-4mdk.i586.rpm These two packages are in RPMS4/ on CD3 of the bittorrent Power Pack that was/is available to Club members. I urpmi'ed them and the plugins for java and flash were set up automatically. The flash links look like this: $ ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ -l | grep flash lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 41 Oct 21 08:14 flashplayer.xpt - /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/flashplayer.xpt lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 43 Oct 21 08:14 libflashplayer.so - /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so* Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi won't install kdesdk/kdevelop
Anguo wrote: Hello, Thanks to your help, I have solved my autoconf/automake/BerkeleyDB requirements, but I still fail to install kdevelop. I have tried everything I could think of, including installing from source. After a few hours of compiling, the latest cvs snapshot won't compile. After a few more hours of compiling the latest stable release, the compile is still unsuccessful. I am back to urpmi, trying to do it the easy way: usually urpmi makes thinks very easy (thanks to the packaging efforts of many volunteers and Mandrakesoft employees) but this time, it simply won't work. kdesdk is needed by kdevelop but this package won't install, however I try to force it to. # urpmi kdesdk rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys: unexpected file type or format error: cannot open Pubkeys index using db3 - Invalid argument (22) The following packages have bad signatures: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm: Invalid signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 MD5 GPG GPG#70771ff3 NOT OK) Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) y installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm error: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm: MD5 digest: BAD Expected(97f2ba5a91888cd3af40f89be6b65868) != (393221db35071aa90eaa73816a9a5ba8) unable to install package /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm I have tried updating my urpmi sources, changing sources, manually downloading the file and do urpmi with the local file, I tried with the --force option. I have tried without urpmi but simply rpm -i: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rpms]# rpm -i --force kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm error: kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 70771ff3 error: kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm cannot be installed I have also checked the mandrake update, to see if there is any related update, but nothing. Nothing works. thanks for your help. Anguo This works here (9.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]# urpmi kdesdk Everything already installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]# urpme kdesdk To satisfy dependencies, the following packages will be removed (13 MB): kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586 kdevelop-2.1.5-16mdk.i586 (due to missing kdesdk[*]) Is this OK? (Y/n) removing kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586 kdevelop-2.1.5-16mdk.i586 [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]# urpmi kdevelop To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (13 MB): kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586 kdevelop-2.1.5-16mdk.i586 Is this OK? (Y/n) installing /mnt/hd/Mandrake/RPMS2/kdevelop-2.1.5-16mdk.i586.rpm /mnt/hd/Mandrake/RPMS2/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... ## 1:kdesdk ## 2:kdevelop ## I see a bad md5sum error in your install attempt, which could be a corrupt download file, and a gpg signature check failure. What does the following query give you: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ rpm -qa gpg-pubkey* gpg-pubkey-d7c32450-3cbb6966 gpg-pubkey-70771ff3-3c8f768f gpg-pubkey-caba22ae-3cf2c469 gpg-pubkey-22458a98-3969e7de Have you tried rpm --rebuilddb ? What is your version, how did you install, and are you downloading rpms that are on CD2 of 9.2? Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: kernel and public keys Re: [expert] SOLVED: urpmi won't install kdesdk/kdevelop
Anguo wrote: Hello Rolf, On Monday 03 Nov 2003 12:39 am, Rolf Pedersen wrote: [..] and a gpg signature check failure. What does the following query give you: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ rpm -qa gpg-pubkey* gpg-pubkey-d7c32450-3cbb6966 gpg-pubkey-70771ff3-3c8f768f$ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-22458a98 gpg-pubkey-caba22ae-3cf2c469 gpg-pubkey-22458a98-3969e7de $ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-22458a98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] rpms]# rpm -qa gpg-pubkey* gpg-pubkey-caba22ae-3cf2c469 gpg-pubkey-70771ff3-3c8f768f The first key in mine is from rpmhelp and the last is from MandrakeUpdate, I believe, as revealed by $ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-22458a98 for example. See man rpm. I tried the script mentionned there: http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-06/msg01646.php but I get an error message when I run it. All I can see is that script is said to have 5 lines and it appears that the first line was wrapped by the email client. Did you paste the script into an editor and put the first line all in one (if that is the case)? $ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-22458a98 (...)$ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-22458a98 RYqYid0AoJgeWzXrEdIClBOSW5Q6FzqJJyaqAKC0Y9YI3UFlE4zSIGjcFlLJEJGX lA== =b+bD$ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-22458a98 -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- error: 22458A98.asc: import read failed.$ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-22458a98 -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) mQGiBDyPdo8RBACiej+yqIVK2XRbMsKIyWt4bN0rh87fP+6Bcpp0wANswh2ZBrJT (...) each time I use urpmi I have rows of rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys: unexpected file type or format rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys: unexpected file type or format rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys: unexpected file type or format$ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-22458a98 rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys: unexpected file type or format$ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-22458a98 rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys: unexpected file type or format rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys: unexpected file type or format rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys: unexpected file type or format rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys: unexpected file type or format All I know is that rpm and how it handles gpg signatures has changed from 9.1 to 9.2. Can you check the rpm installation with rpm -V rpm See man rpm for the meaning of output, if any. Have you tried rpm --rebuilddb ? yes. $ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-22458a98 What is your version, how did you install, and are you downloading rpms that are on CD2 of 9.2?$ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-22458a98 I did a mirror upgrade from 9.1 to 9.2. I haven't upgraded the kernel yet, because I don't know which one to choose. I had some problems with kde because of the texstar 9.1 packages, so I urpme'ed all the kde packages and urpmi'ed them again. kdesdk is the only one that seems to resist my earnest attempts at installing it :( [EMAIL PROTECTED] rpms]# urpmi kernel One of the following packages is needed: 1- kernel-smp-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586 2- kernel-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586 3- kernel-p3-smp-64GB-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586 4- kernel-secure-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586 5- kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586 6- kernel-enterprise-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586 7- kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586 8- kernel-enterprise-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586 9- kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586 10- kernel-p3-smp-64GB-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586 11- kernel-secure-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586 12- kernel-smp-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586 13- kernel2.4-marcelo-2.4.22-1mdk.i586 14- kernel-multimedia-2.4.22.10mm.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586 15- kernel-multimedia-smp-2.4.22.10mm.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586 16- kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586 17- kernel-tmb-enterprise-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586 What is your choice? (1-17) I have an amd duron i686 with 700+Mb RAM that I use as a standalone desktop terminal. Which kernel do I choose? I don't know where you get 2- kernel-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586. Could you do urpmq --sources kernel-2.4.22.18mdk 7- kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586 is the install kernel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ urpmq --sources kernel-2.4.22.10mdk file://mnt/hd/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm$ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-22458a98 There is an update kernel that removes packet-writing support in the install kernel that exposed a bug in certain LG cdrom firmwares by erasing the firmware, making the drives inoperable. See http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/lgerrata.php3 If you have such a drive, don't use the install kernel. This is the update kernel: urpmq --sources kernel-2.4.22.21mdk ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm $ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-22458a98 I would say you just need the uniprocessor kernels, kernel-2*. The multimedia and tmb kernels have some more developmental features. Look in the cooker archives or read the package information like so, for example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ urpmq --sources kernel-multimedia-2.4.22.10mm.2mdk file://contrib/i586/kernel-multimedia-2.4.22.10mm.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ rpm -qip /contrib/i586/kernel-multimedia
Re: [expert] fstab question (was broken xmms)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm reposting this under an improved title. What should I change in the following fstab line to allow non-root users read/write access to the drive? /dev/hdd2 /mp3 vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 TIA This is what the install gives me: /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mount: error 19 / Kernel panic booting 2.4.22
Paul wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 00:10:01 +, Paul wrote: I get a kernel panic when I boot kernel-2.4.22. When I boot from kernel-2.4.19, everything is fine. Someone suggested switching the filesystem stype from 'auto' to 'ext3', but I'm still having the problem... There is a cooker thread that might be related: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerm=106764817102588w=2 Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and xscreensaver
Rob Blomquist wrote: Xscreensaver is installed on my machine: xscreensaver-4.12-1mdk, but the screen savers are not showing up in KDE Control Center/Appearance Themes/Screen Saver. And this is with a reboot of the machine (not related) and several reboots of X. Now, is there something that I am supposed to do to get it to work, or did Mandrake blow it? Rob I have seen others grapple with screensavers not being shown. There are several strategies in the following thread, one or two of which seem to have also come across the cooker mailing list and would be in those archives: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=12294forum=11 Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [dvd::rip] subtitle2pgm is missing or to old
Helge Hielscher wrote: Hello, to copy DVDs I use dvd::rip and everything works fine, except copying the subtitles. It complains that the programm subtitle2pgm is missing. Does anyone know where I can find this programm? TIA, Helge There is subtitleripper in plf: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ urpmq subtitle2pgm no package named subtitle2pgm [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ urpmf subtitle2pgm subtitleripper:/usr/bin/subtitle2pgm subtitleripper:/usr/share/doc/subtitleripper-0.6.10/README.subtitle2pgm [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ urpmq --sources subtitleripper ftp://spirit.bentel.sk/mirrors/plf/mandrake/9.2/subtitleripper-0.6.10-2plf.i586.rpm Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] install from hard disk?
Vincent Chen wrote: Hi, all It already bothered me for a while since mandrake 9.0 to current 9.2. Usually I mirror a copy of mandrake linux and install from that hard disk partition. I works well and really fast. But when I tried to add some package,software manager always told me that file was missing. If I change the source to a local ftp mirror,this problem won't happen. How can I verify or setup a source profile, so I can save some bandwidth? Thanks, I have found, also, that hd installs don't configure sources for some time. The simplest way to deal with this that I know is to open mcc Software Management Software Media Manager. Add a local source for each RPMS directory. I am using ../base/hdlist*.cz for the relative path to the hdlist and name the sources siimply CD1, CD2, etc. You might also want to edit /var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlists to remove the sources install apparently adds for the Power Pack that the download does not have and that result in 'can not find' errors whenever urpm* is run. You might also take the official names of the sources from this file. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GL screensaver crash
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 24 October 2003 10:25 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: Running 9.2 with ati Radeon 32M ddr QD 7200 vid card. I configured one or another of the GL screensavers, such as Gravity or Solar Winds, which are quite nice. It seems they will activate and return the desktop with mouse or keyboard activity. I have the screensaver set to activate after 7 mins. However, when I am running two bittorrent processes, to feed the upload, when I go away for a bit and look back, the screensaver is frozen. I cannot do anything with ctrl-alt-backspace, ctrl-alt-del, ctrl-alt-F*; only alt-sysreq + s,u,b will unlock the machine. This seems to be the circumstances that cause the lockup but I have not tested exhaustively. The GL screensavers always seemed to give me trouble in the past but I thought they would work, this time. Has anyone dealt with this before? Thanks. Rolf What about other GL stuff? Does it cause your system to lockup? Games, apps, etc... Might be something hardware related like memory or heat. I don't much play games. Tuxracer, glxgears, Frozen Bubbles work for me. Rather, in 9.2, with a carried-over /home directory, Tuxracer would not start until I changed this part of ~/.tuxracer/options thus: # data_dir # # The location of the Tux Racer data files # set data_dir /usr/share/games/tuxracer/ The old data_dir was /usr/share/tuxracer and the console error told me it could not find it. If I start Frozen Bubbles on one desktop and Tuxracer on another, Tuxracer plays (with Frozen Bubbles soundtrack) until I exit Tuxracer. The screen freezes but all the ctrl-alt keys work and I have to restart X. This seems more a matter of the unlikely combination of both games running at the same time. I suspect something about the radeon driver or, maybe something to do with the interaction of GL and a busy nic. The radeon has interrupt 3 while the nic shares 5 with the onboard CMI8738-MC6 sound chip. Thanks for the ideas. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Update procedure not fully working - am I doing something wrong?
Damon Lynch wrote: Hi, I'd like to be able to pull down the new kernel and it's source. I've added numerous update mirrors (not at the same time ;-) using MandrakeUpdate but although I can see the kernel source, I don't have the option of downloading the kernel itself using urpmi, e.g. # urpmi kernel One of the following packages is needed: 1- kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586 2- kernel-smp-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586 3- kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586 whereas this proceeds normally: # urpmi kernel-source ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./kernel-source-2.4.22-18mdk.i586.rpm (begins downloading) I am doing something wrong? Or is something missing in the lists of packages on the mirrors? (Certainly, the packages are there, e.g. kernel-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm) Thanks Damon With the kernel and urpmi, you sometimes need to add more of the version to the command. What worked for me was: urpmi kernel-2.4.22.18mdk Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] GL screensaver crash
Running 9.2 with ati Radeon 32M ddr QD 7200 vid card. I configured one or another of the GL screensavers, such as Gravity or Solar Winds, which are quite nice. It seems they will activate and return the desktop with mouse or keyboard activity. I have the screensaver set to activate after 7 mins. However, when I am running two bittorrent processes, to feed the upload, when I go away for a bit and look back, the screensaver is frozen. I cannot do anything with ctrl-alt-backspace, ctrl-alt-del, ctrl-alt-F*; only alt-sysreq + s,u,b will unlock the machine. This seems to be the circumstances that cause the lockup but I have not tested exhaustively. The GL screensavers always seemed to give me trouble in the past but I thought they would work, this time. Has anyone dealt with this before? Thanks. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions
Jack Coates wrote: cool! What's in powerpack that isn't in download? What's convenient for me is stuff like acroread, FlashPlayer, j2re for java plugin. I see RealPlayer, some modem drivers, nVidia, and ati video doodads I don't use. Rolf On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 12:57, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: It's OK to use bittorrent to download the powerpack if you're a silver member or above of MandrakeClub. That's how I got my copy. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gonzalo Avaria Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions On Thursday 23 October 2003 19:36, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: If there is something on the Download that's not in Powerpack, or some other reason I might need Download, then I need to get started downloading as Bittorrent is going to keep me occupied for another week. I want to go ahead and serve my time in bittorrent prison if I need to. And you are using a P2P to download a pay distro??? I don´t think that´s correct to ask here... Sorry but don´t like this kind of posting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Install issues with 9.2
OK, I see why this didn't show up on the list. Please, also, read about setting reply-to in the wiki: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette Rolf Pedersen wrote: Bill Dearing wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 17:15, Greg Meyer wrote: I think the official 9.2 release should be delayed a little for these things to get fixed. Experienced users should have no problems fixing these install isues, but for new users it would be a big dissapointment. Unfortunately, it is too late. FiveStar has been sent to the manufacturer. What a shame. So far, for me, this is the worst Mandrake version I've seen in years. [..] I next tried downloading the ISO's again, and reburn them, figuring this could all be a problem in the user space (me!). Nope. After a second install with new ISO's on new CD's I hit the the same snag again. Bummer. [..] There are ways to verify the isos and, even, verify the burned CDs. It is better to do this than to guess that going through all the effort of downloading and burning will produce something better than the first time. Even though bittorrent is supposed to perform checks of the downloaded data, some people seemed to wind up with bad isos and the md5sums were published in various posts to the Club articles. It's imperative to know the download is verified good before anything else. Next, there is a bit of neat HOWTO on verifying the burned disk by Pierre Fortin on the wiki: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/BurningCDsFromISOs Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with Urpmi/RpmDrake under 9.2
Rob Blomquist wrote: I am not able to access my installation CDs nor any of the usual sites at PLF, Texstar, or Club_comm after the upgrade. How can I fix this problem. I remember it after the 9.0 to 9.1 upgrade, but forget how to fix it. Rob This sounds like a case of urpmi sources not getting set up during install, which always seems to happen to me with an hd install. Since you might still have old sources configured, check and remove them in Software Media Manager or, as root: urpmi.removemedia -a Then, add the CD sources by putting CD1 in the reader and, as root: urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://mnt/cdrom/ I am pretty sure that is all that is needed. If your mount point for the reader is different, change it. See man urpmi.addmedia. I don't know that Texstar is going to be maintaining his source anymore, as there was an announcement at www.pclinuxonline.com that he was taking a leave to pursue employment, or something like that. For the other sources, add them with drakclub, as root, or Configuration Other Discover custom services, the club Mirrors-list scripts, which might work for you or some of which might give commands that need to be modified to work,¹ and/or the scripts at nanardon: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/ Rolf ¹http://www.mail-archive.com/expert%40linux-mandrake.com/msg78494.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Bittorrent bandwidth maximization
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
OK, I've looked at the faqs and I've read the expert list. I'm still
getting a max of 7.6 K/sec download speed where I should be seeing
between 70 to 90 K/sec.
I fiddled with the download.py file, finally changing it to:
('max_upload_rate', 0,
'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'),
and
('max_uploads', 0,
the maximum number of uploads to allow at once.),
This increased my download speed from 2 something to what it is now,
which is 7 to 8 K/sec. I tried None, 13, but that caused it to bomb
out altogether. I'm running bittorrent-3.3-2mdk which was pointed at by
the Mandrakeclub site. I'm not running the gui I'm just running the
ncurses version. Can somebody point me to a faq I haven't seen or tell
me something I haven't tried to increase download speed. I've been
downloading for two days now and I'm only at 5.9%.
TIA
LX
You don't say which FAQ's you have read, so I will suggest there is a
Club FAQ article near the top and a number of other articles just below
that contain a lot of troubleshooting discussion. Here are a few more
links I have googled:
http://wiki.theory.org/index.php/BitTorrentFAQ?version=66
http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/FAQ.html
http://userpages.umbc.edu/~hamilton/btclientconfig.html
Rolf
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Re: [expert] help for cups
stephlub wrote: Le Lundi 20 Octobre 2003 10:28, stephlub a écrit : I know it's not the newbie list but I really need help to have a cups server up and running quickly. I spent hours with this and can't bypass the problem. This is an 'ancient' Mandrake updated to 9.1 running on an an 'ancient', and a 'm afraid I had to clean it an install new like other os do if nobody can help me :-( Pqd worked fine and one time I reach to print a leaf but until I reboot. I tried to unistall/reinstall cups (erasing all the cups dir). Printerdrake says it can't apply configuration and can't connect server, both on the running linux and the update linux with CD. [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# service cups start Launch CUPS :[ OK ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# service cups status cupsd (pid 8520) running... [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# echo |lp lp: error - scheduler not responding! [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# service cups status cupsd stopped [EMAIL PROTECTED] useri]# lpadmin -p Printer lpadmin: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# lp lp: error - scheduler not responding! /var/log/cups/errors.log d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] AcceptClient(0x8084570) 0 NumClients = 0 D [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] AcceptClient() 5 from localhost:631. d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] AcceptClient: Adding fd 5 to InputSet... d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0 D [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 POST / HTTP/1.1 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] decode_auth(0x4d57a008): Authorization string = d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] decode_auth() 5 username= d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] IsAuthorized: con-uri = / d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: uri = /... d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: Location / Limit 7f d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: Location /admin Limit 7f d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: Location CUPS_INTERNAL_BROWSE_ACL Limit 0 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: best = / d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] IsAuthorized: auth = 0, satisfy=0... d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] POST / d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] CONTENT_TYPE = application/ipp d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length, con-data_remaining = 141, con-file = 0 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length, con-data_remaining = 133, con-file = 0 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length, con-data_remaining = 98, con-file = 0 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length, con-data_remaining = 61, con-file = 0 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length, con-data_remaining = 1, con-file = 0 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ProcessIPPRequest(0x4d57a008[5]): operation_id = 4002 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] get_printers(0x4d57a008[5], 0) D [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ProcessIPPRequest: 5 status_code=1 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ProcessIPPRequest: Adding fd 5 to OutputSet... d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] WriteClient: Removing fd 5 from OutputSet... d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0 D [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] CloseClient() 5 Is anyone can help me anymore before I clean my system? :-) I think you already said you opened port 631 on your firewall? Otherwise, I don't know what the problem is but have you looked at the docs/forums at http://linuxprinting.org/ ? Maybe a cc to till, [EMAIL PROTECTED] would get you his help. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media
D. R. Evans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20 Oct 2003 at 10:49, Rolf Pedersen wrote: I just finished my install and have the exact same problem. Then all the scripts need to be fixed :-( I've tried most of them, and none of them works as they stand. I've sent emails to the webmaster, St?phane Alexandre aka Fafane @ the webmaster link on Club pages. You should do the same, detailing your experiences. I sent him an e-mail and he replied, giving me a different URL (although I notice that the actual web page still hasn't changed). But the URL he gave me, although it ends up at some different mirrors, still ends up giving exactly the same error when one actually executes the urpmi.addmedia command. There is definitely something very broken somewhere. This was a clean install of 9.2 on to a brand new system, so it is uncontaminated with any prior mandrakes, urpmi commands or anything; so I believe that the problem isn't with the installation here (and in any case, I don't see what I could be diong wrong -- it's only a cut-and-paste after all). Has anyone here actually succeeded in performing an addmedia with 9.2 using any of the URPMI setup scripts on the club site? If so, maybe that person could e-mail me privately and identify which script/mirror worked, so I can try that one too. Doc PS This is not a case of the mirrors being too busy. They happily download a bunch of files, and then all fail at the same place: immediately after downloading the ...i586/hdlist2.cz file. You will have to modify the script if you want to use it to add a source. For example, take the url out of the command the script gives you, starting with ftp: and ending with mandrake/ or Mandrake/. Copy and paste that into your browser's address bar and go there. I just did this for the California site and the browser told me it was not accepting connections, the other was quite slow to load. This is a good way to check the speed and availability of a server. Try alternates until you find some reliable pattern for predictable usage. When you are in the mandrake/ or Mandrake/ directory of the server, drill down to 9.2/contrib/i586, which is the likely source you would add from this script. You will see all the rpms of this source, which is the first argument to urpmi.admedia: the directory containing the rpms you wish to add. Modify the command the script gives you to include this final part of the path to this directory: ftp://xx/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 for example. In 9.2, the location of the hdlists appears to have changed to be right in this rpms directory. So, you must also modify that part of the command that gives the relative path to the hdlist. It will now be: with ./hdlist.cz If you are adding contrib/, you might want to change the name of this source from the mirror-name-derived name the script gives you to simply contrib. See man urpmi.addmedia for the syntax explanation. The Mirrors-list link in the sidebar gives you other options for other sources: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?name=Mirrors-list Those might work out-of-the-box or you might have to verify the paths in a browser, as in the above example. I don't know why the script gives these commands but I know others have been able to add a source following this sort of strategy of confirming paths: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=12767forum=11 I was also able to add a club_comm source by typing drakclub at a root prompt and following that route. Rolf -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 -- QDPGP 2.70 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBP5V5UWnXrLw2KRK4EQKHvQCgrGAMRtIAez834vyeb1orMmuPJgEAoNnY DLIfNDrLFhGaCS3uCQYxxHDl =1cul -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media
D. R. Evans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21 Oct 2003 at 13:22, Rolf Pedersen wrote: You will have to modify the script if you want to use it to add a source. Well one hates to seem like an idiot, but exactly what is the point of these scripts if when one does exactly what the page says (cut, paste, execute) they fail -- and apparently the only way to find out how to modify them is to make one's idiocy public by posting questions here? It used to work; presently, it's broken. I'll try to make the changes you suggest in the rest of your post, but it all seems pretty bizarre that Mdk provides this urpmi program and then provides scripts that only work after being edited rather than by simply following the instructions on the web site. Yes, it is not optimal. Stuff happens. People try to find solutions and report to those who can fix it. Seems there is a bit of 'sweat equity' required to best enjoy this (I daresay, any) distribution of software, at the present time. The good news is that there are resources for discovering the efforts you need to make and no limit to what you can see of it or do with it. I was also able to add a club_comm source by typing drakclub at a root prompt and following that route. Hmmm I can find no reference to a command called drakclub on the club download page or in the Definitive Manual. Where (and HOW!) is one supposed to find out about this stuff? Drakclub has been discussed in Mandrake Club since at least March: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=568 and there are many more references to it to be found by the Search function. I am also aware of it by reading the cooker list and there are probably other sources, such as the newsletters sent by email. You can access this function by going to Configuration Other Discover Custom services in the menu. Rolf Doc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 -- QDPGP 2.70 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBP5WhKGnXrLw2KRK4EQJgeQCg8kgnvYk5d553wPYycTMbWSsT2sMAn2hj 9pgVk1RK4ou9XNIy9XsaFCEf =oEGu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Qmail RPM for Mandrake
James wrote: Can anyone direct me to a site where I can download a Mandrake RPM for Qmail? I tried the www.qmail.org site which has a link to Mandrake RPMS, but the link doesn't work. I also tried http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/ and the two links for Qmail there don't work, either. I also downloaded the source and tried to install it by going through their installation steps, but when I got to the ./config command, it could not find the file config.. but the file config.sh exists.. so I typed ./config.sh but then it told me I don't have permission to run that file. I am root, how could I not have permission? Anyway, I want to try a Mandrake RPM and see if that works, but I can't find one online anywhere. I'm using Mandrake 9.1 Thanks. james I don't use qmail but I think you ought to look at vdanen's site: http://rpmhelp.net/ Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media
D. R. Evans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19 Oct 2003 at 21:17, Rolf Pedersen wrote: I went to the club site, clicked the Downloads box, and then the MandrakeClub mirrors script link (which is the first link in the text on the page), which gets me to: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?name=Mirrors Then I click on any of the URPMI setup links, and cut-and-paste the command into a root terminal session... and get the errors I posted yesterday. I just finished my install and have the exact same problem. Adding --wget doesn't change anything. The plf script worked fine but the ones on the club download pages don't. I'm not really sure what to make of that error... The path that the club script gives me ends at Mandrake/ on the mirror. It depends which mirror you go to. Some seem to end in Mandrake/, some in mandrake/ and some in Mandrake/mandrake/. I'm pretty sure it's a script error and the subdirectories up to and including the RPMS/ directory need to be appended to the path for it to work. Then all the scripts need to be fixed :-( I've tried most of them, and none of them works as they stand. I've sent emails to the webmaster, Stéphane Alexandre aka Fafane @ the webmaster link on Club pages. You should do the same, detailing your experiences. I added RPMS/ to the end of the script for one of the California mirrors (since they are the closest to me), but that didn't help. Are there other directories that are supposed to appear between the mandrake/ and the RPMS/?? FWIW, the actual command (replacing the name of the mirror since this is a public list), downloaded directly from the club URPMI Setup link is: urpmi.addmedia -h xxx_ ftp://xxx/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/ As I say, sticking RPMS/ on to the end of this didn't change anything. Go to the url the script gives you, drill down to the proper RPMS/ directory, then the address in your url bar will give you the subdirectories up to and including the RPMS/ directory, and the relative path the the hdlist.cz *should* be correct as can be confirmed by navigating to parent directory/base/. This path, as I recall, is ../base/hdlist.cz. Verify for your case. I ran into this once before and I think this will work. Rolf Doc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and GIMP ???
Richard Bown wrote: Hi this is minor but damn annoying After trying to print a jpeg from gimp-1.2.5-6mdk to an Epson C82 printer using CUPS, instead of a nice piccy of a swiss steam engine I got 1 line of about 20 characters mix of german, greek , math symbols. on page after page after page. Flushed the printer queueno change removed printer for config.no change disconnected the printer..no change power cycled the printer eventually stops reconnected the printer to PC. it starts again !!! reboot the PC its still going power down the pc it stopped reconfigure the printer in CUPs and print a test page.working Thats the first time I've ever seen that.. OK it may be a coincidence that 9.2 is involved as the other factor is the new kernel 2.4.22 has anyone seen similar ??? Yes.yes I have :) Well, I don't know if it is the same but it has a lot of common elements: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6135 Rolf Richard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi: get summaries, etc
Eric Huff wrote: Hello, How can i search the names of rpms, and show the summary and description? If i urpmf, it appears to search more. The more you specify a file path to urpmf, the less it will return as relevant, and vice-versa. However, if urpmf returns nothing for a specific library, for instance, it might be useful to cut pieces from the end of the library argument you are searching on, bit-by-bit, to get some clue of what package might be related to your search. What i'd like is a command line version of what rpmdrake does: once i get it open, it very nicely shows only packages with nmh (for example) in the name and i can quickly see the description and summary. You can look for a certain package name or name containing a certain string with urpmq; also try urpmq --fuzzy for a broader search (see man urpmq): [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ urpmq bit The following packages contain bit: bittorrent-shadowsclient fonts-bitmap-tscii libebits1 libebits1-devel libitclib0 libitclib0-devel libitclib0-static-devel orbital_eunuchs_sniper pyorbit pyorbit-devel You can use the -i option for urpmq: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ urpmq -i bittorrent-shadowsclient Name: bittorrent-shadowsclient Version : 5.8.3 Release : 1mdk Group : Networking/File transfer Size: 890705 Architecture: noarch Summary : BitTorrent is a tool for copying files from one machine to another It also, on the same page, shows the current version i have installed, if any. Use rpm -q to see installed version, if any: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ rpm -q pyorbit package pyorbit is not installed Also, use urpmq --sources to find the path to an uninstalled rpm in your sources and read the package information with rpm -qip (man rpm): [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ urpmq --sources pyorbit file://contrib/i586/pyorbit-2.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm [EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ rpm -qip /contrib/i586/pyorbit-2.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm Name: pyorbit Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.0.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Tue 02 Sep 2003 02:24:11 AM PDT Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group : Development/GNOME and GTK+Source RPM: pyorbit-2.0.0-1mdk.src.rpm Size: 107274 License: LGPL Signature : (none) Packager: Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pyorbit/ Summary : Python bindings for ORBit2. Description : pyorbit is an extension module for python that gives you access to the ORBit2 CORBA ORB. Is there a line (or lines) for urpm* that i can use? I find the urpm*/rpm tools to be more convenient, quick, and flexible than rpmdrake, once I have got the hang of them. Rolf Thanks, eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
Olaf Marzocchi wrote: At 00.02 19/10/2003, you wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 22:27, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: Ok, but I have to wait until 9.2 will be available for everyone. Olaf It already is and has been all along..check the mirrors. It's only the 9.2 iso's that aren't available allover (yet). But I don't have an hi-speed coection to install the sys via ftp... I NEED the ISOs... I could even create my ISOs with MakeCD, but Joeb in another thread said he had dependency problems... so I wait until ISOs are available. Olaf There's nothing wrong with waiting a little bit but, since you would have to have the 9.2 tree downloaded to make the isos, have you considered doing an hd install from the tree? Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media
Fred Albrecht wrote: D. R. Evans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [ top quote snipped ] I went to the club site, clicked the Downloads box, and then the MandrakeClub mirrors script link (which is the first link in the text on the page), which gets me to: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?name=Mirrors Then I click on any of the URPMI setup links, and cut-and-paste the command into a root terminal session... and get the errors I posted yesterday. I just finished my install and have the exact same problem. Adding --wget doesn't change anything. The plf script worked fine but the ones on the club download pages don't. I'm not really sure what to make of that error... The path that the club script gives me ends at Mandrake/ on the mirror. I'm pretty sure it's a script error and the subdirectories up to and including the RPMS/ directory need to be appended to the path for it to work. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 start menu hosed after installing Moz 1.4
Greg Sarsons wrote: Noted this before ... What I've done, there might be another way, is to run MCC. It the select System and select MenuDrake. You should now see all the menu items in MenuDrake as they should be. Now all you do is click Save and voila you menu items are back. Greg That might be the solution. If not, try running, as root, 'update-menus -v'. There is a cooker thread that might be related to your problem: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg127573.html Rolf On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 08:13, D. R. Evans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 1. Install Mdk 9.2, selecting most of the desktop client packages. 2. After the install is complete, install Moz 1.4 (from the CDs) 3. KDE start menu loses a ton of stuff that was there before step 2. Help! How do I get all those menu items back? (For example, the only thing left under Configuration now is Hardware | Harddrake -- in other words, the menu is _really_ hosed.) Doc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 -- QDPGP 2.70 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBP5FKjmnXrLw2KRK4EQLTNQCeJFn2QXA3NlBUEBqvwjrM8PKyp4UAmwWI mBBWivgChnZWpzLvNalUuFEd =tdjz -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 start menu hosed after installing Moz 1.4
D. R. Evans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18 Oct 2003 at 8:49, Greg Sarsons wrote: Noted this before ... What I've done, there might be another way, is to run MCC. It the select System and select MenuDrake. There is no MCC any more (no System menu) :-( Is there a way to run MCC from the CLI? (Well, there must be, but I don't know how :-) ) Doc Type mcc. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 start menu hosed after installing Moz 1.4
D. R. Evans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18 Oct 2003 at 8:18, Rolf Pedersen wrote: Type mcc. Hmmm... I just discovered that I can't get a terminal -- since there's no terminal on the menu either! And opening one using ctrl-alt-Fn doesn't work, because then I can't run X - - - so I can't run a graphical program. Doc Wow. Press Alt-F2 and type mcc in the box. Return. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 13:48, Greg Meyer wrote: Download the rpms you want from the mirrors, burn them to cd, then add cd as urpmi source. Which still calls for a hdlist.cz describing the packages on that CD. It will not be accepted without! Good luck, HarM You can generate the hdlist in the RPMS directory before burning with genhdlist dir to write hdlist. It's part of rpmtools. There is also an option to urpmi.addmedia but I don't know how it would work with removable media: -f Force generation of hdlist files. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Firebird, Thunderbird
AS Reginvest wrote: Rolf Pedersen wrote: Mandrake has mozilla-firebird in contrib/ for 9.2 and I had it installed in 9.1, so it is probably also in 9.1 contrib/. Nope, can't find it. It might be in plf which seems to be broken (at least for me) right now. Will have to try Dave's suggestion. Wahur Oh, I see that the firebird I had installed in 9.1 came from Texstar: firebird-0.6-1tex. In 9.2, it is called mozilla-firebird-0.6.1-6mdk.i586.rpm, in contrib/. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why not use the default directories?
Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: A general comment: Why doesn't Mandrake, when it's building a new version, does not use the default installation directories of each package? Because otherwise, when we reinstall it, we have a chance of ending up with two versions of the same files! -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Mandrake strives to conform to the Linux Standards Base and has been LSB certified: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/community/mandrakesoftnews/news?n=/mandrakesoft/products/2381 The LSB specifies the Filesystem Hiearchy Standard as the authority for where files go: http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/refspecs/LSB_1.3.0/gLSB/gLSB/execenvfhs.html http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/index.html#TOC The standards allow for some options and are somewhat open to interpretation. Different software authors might have different interpretations, implement options differently, or lack compliance with these standards. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] dualboot 9.2 + XP Pro on laptop
D. R. Evans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, a really simple question: where is there a definitive howto describing exactly how to install 9.2 on a laptop that already has XP on it, in such a way that one can boot either OS at the end of the installation? There are lots of howtos for other versions of Mandrake and other other Linuces, but they aren't consistent and they don't leave me with any confidence that I won't end up with a munged box. This laptop (an IBM T40) has NO floppy drive. I just did an installation on it, and looked long and hard at the screen that asked me where to put the bootloader -- and I didn't know how to answer the question (especially since it said that this step was usually automatic). There are no XP system CDs, just those stupid put the entire system back the way it was when you opened the box CDs, so if I screw up the installation, I can easily see myself losing everything that's currently on the box. yes; there's a backup, but it's still a major pain to re-install and rebuild everything. So I really want to avoid that and get the Mandrake installation right the first time. Doc Definitive and exactly are not likely to describe any HOWTO, especially for something as recent as 9.2, as the variations in hardware/software/user proclivities make it unlikely anything both comprehensive and generic will be wriiten for such a moving target. In fact, there are reports that some OEM installs of XP make it impossible to dual-boot linux or other OS: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=XP+oem+linux+dual-bootspell=1 Everyone is advised to backup before install and, although it usually works, there are no guarantees. If you choose to install the bootloader to your / partition or floppy or otherwise not to MBR, where the XP loader is, you might be able to make use of the following information at MUO Docs for using the XP bootloader for booting Mandrake: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/i3boot.html BTW, there used to be an option to not install the bootloader but I have not seen it for a couple of releases. I install to the / partition and, when asked where the primary bootloader is installed, I choose hda. Rolf -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 -- QDPGP 2.70 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBP5Apm2nXrLw2KRK4EQI8iACcCLFuhTd/WnfbGBqi6uzcvrh9sekAn3Em dAe5KNV2LLjmzPKa58P/R8HA =E/Ts -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] dualboot and need to reinstall windows
Phil G. wrote: I have a dualboot setup, and had to replace my video card. No problems in ML. But W2K won't recognize the new card and the video is corrupted. So I need to reinstall W2K. I think this will this screw up the bootsector so that I can't boot into Linux. And if so, how do I correct it? Phil If you put w2k back into the same partition, your Mandrake bootloader menu, /boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/lilo.conf, will already have the proper information to boot windows or Mandrake. However, installing windows installs the windows bootloader to the MBR. You will just have to reinstall Mandrake's bootloader. One way to do this is boot CD1, press F1 when the screen say you can, boot with rescue, and you will have a choice to reinstall the bootloader. Otherwise, if you boot a generic rescue disk, mount your linux install, chroot to that mount point, and run /sbin/lilo for lilo or sh /boot/grub/install.sh for grub, that will reinstall the Mandrake bootloader to the MBR. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Firebird, Thunderbird
AS Reginvest wrote: Hey all! Are there Mdk packages available for those mentioned in subject? Could not urpmi them, even though tex, plf and contrib sources have been configured. Wahur Mandrake has mozilla-firebird in contrib/ for 9.2 and I had it installed in 9.1, so it is probably also in 9.1 contrib/. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 md5sums
Miark wrote: I got the following md5sums. Does anybody concur? 40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974 MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso 2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372 MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso Miark Look for danny's md5sums in the Club article. They seem to start out the same: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1251 Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.2: MD5 sums for Download Powerpack editions
Frederic Soulier wrote: Hi I've seen the MD5 sums for the Download edition and the ones I have have the same MD5 sums. Could someone post their Powerpack edition MD5 sums? Thanks. For the Download edition: 40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974 MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso 2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372 MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso For the Powerpack edition I have: e3eba206a50828690f1f26628c437fe5 MandrakeLinux-9.2-03-Install-1.i586.iso 163942672cdb9880353eadea1494ac59 MandrakeLinux-9.2-04-Install-2.i586.iso ce57799ca2e23311a4b5c196de96612c MandrakeLinux-9.2-05-I18n-Com.i586.iso For powerpack: e3eba206a50828690f1f26628c437fe5 MandrakeLinux-9.2-03-Install-1.i586.iso 163942672cdb9880353eadea1494ac59 MandrakeLinux-9.2-04-Install-2.i586.iso ce57799ca2e23311a4b5c196de96612c MandrakeLinux-9.2-05-I18n-Com.i586.iso Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MandrakeUpdate and nonexistent security fixes
I think that mirror is congested. Loading any of the parent directories in a browser is pretty slow and the RPMS/ directory has not loaded after several minutes. I always check the mirror in a browser if there are problems with MandrakeUpdate; sometimes you will find it is refusing new connections. Rolf Jack Coates wrote: okay, so that verified that the problem isn't a temporary networking problem or load-exceeded problem, but rather a bad hdlist on that mirror. What I would do at this point is delete your update mirror and add a new one, not using the same server. On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 11:17, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 And thus the result: [EMAIL PROTECTED] praedor]# urpmi --update --auto-select --noclean --wget To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (12 MB): gnome-applets-2.2.3-1.1.91mdk.i586 libopenssl0-0.9.6i-1.2.91mdk.i586 libopenssl0.9.7-0.9.7a-1.2.91mdk.i586 libopenssl0.9.7-devel-0.9.7a-1.2.91mdk.i586 openssl-0.9.7a-1.2.91mdk.i586 Is this OK? (Y/n) Y ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.1/RPMS/libopenssl0.9.7-devel-0.9.7a-1.2.91mdk.i586.rpm Installation failed, some files are missing: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libopenssl0.9.7-devel-0.9.7a-1.2.91mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/openssl-0.9.7a-1.2.91mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gnome-applets-2.2.3-1.1.91mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libopenssl0-0.9.6i-1.2.91mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libopenssl0.9.7-0.9.7a-1.2.91mdk.i586.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database On Monday 13 October 2003 01:09 pm, Jack Coates wrote: but you're still not using the --wget switch. Try it, really. On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 09:51, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nothing's working. The sources are screwed up and the rpms nonexistent (again). I updated all my sources again, with success, then did the commandline urpmi bit: [...] - -- What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy. - --James Madison -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/iuxHaKr9sJYeTxgRAn/CAJ9kmzbqLgEy0ygTIjtySfML8gB5HQCeLSUx foN/zbh6XVqUlXUeZizr5QE= =A16+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] konsole settings
Mike Rambo wrote: Ever since I upgraded my system from 8.1 to 9.0, and now 9.1, I have found that settings are not saved with konsole (schema, fonts etc). It looks like they should be saved in ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc but it doesn't seem to happen. I prefer to keep several konsoles open but have to do so (and set schema/font) every time I start up. Any ideas? Works here *but* the thing about konsole settings that is a little bit peculiar is that, after you have got all the settings as you want them, you have to go to Setttings one last time and click 'Save settings'. Did you do that? Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] konsole settings
Mike Rambo wrote: On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 09:59, Rolf Pedersen wrote: Mike Rambo wrote: Ever since I upgraded my system from 8.1 to 9.0, and now 9.1, I have found that settings are not saved with konsole (schema, fonts etc). It looks like they should be saved in ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc but it doesn't seem to happen. I prefer to keep several konsoles open but have to do so (and set schema/font) every time I start up. Any ideas? Works here *but* the thing about konsole settings that is a little bit peculiar is that, after you have got all the settings as you want them, you have to go to Setttings one last time and click 'Save settings'. Did you do that? Yep. Repeatedly... to no avail. I have run into a problem with cooker and 9.1, which both have an old /home directory dragged along for several releases, where the notification sounds for mail and konsole error, among others, disappeared. However, they worked in a fresh install of Slackware with a fresh /home, for instance. Eventually, I googled on removing .kde, finding a description of how the various rc files get confused after undergoing upgrades, moved .kde to .kdebak, which requires resetting kde preferences after a restart, and was happy to get the sounds restored. Maybe this is what is happening in your case. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] icewm
Kwan Lowe wrote: Is there anyway I can save my theme when I start icewm? I Really like this GUI since it uses less resources than gnome or kde. Here's a link that has some information: http://media.theare.giointernet.co.uk/XP_like_desktop_with_IceWM.html Check out part 2 about editing the .icewm prefs file. There's also a program called icepref that will do this without having to edit any files directly. It might be available from one the repositories but I haven't checked. It's on CD2: $ urpmq --sources icepref file://mnt/hd/Mandrake/RPMS2/icepref-1.1-6mdk.noarch.rpm Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GRUB / booting in 9.1
skippi wrote: Howdy. I am trying to install 9.1 on a brand new MoBo. It's a Intel D865GBF. Info is here: http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bf/ The install process seems to go just fine, until the very end. When I reboot, I get my Win98 start up menu. GRUB is not installing. On top of that, I made 3 floppies to do an install from the hard drive. None of them will boot. I get kernel panics. I made 2 boot disk during the install, nieither of them will boot. I tried booting from the CD and executing 'rescue' however it mounts my mdk 7.2 file system on hdb6. The 9.1 is on hdb7. So that is no good. Assuming that 9.1 is actually installed... how can I get to the file system to try installing GRUB? Also, can someone plase post a GRUB /boot/grub/menu.lst entry to boot a 9.1 system so I know what it should look like? That would be very helpful. Thanks much. Adrian What you can do is boot the rescue and choose command line. From there, you can mount the install you wish by hand. [1] mkdir /mnt/disk mount /dev/hdb7 /mnt/disk chroot /mnt/disk You should now get a prompt from / of your install. If you have other partitions you need to mount, do so, for example: mount /usr Try to see if the installer created /boot/grub/menu.lst for you ls /boot less /boot/grub/menu.lst If the menu is there, and looks OK, and you have /boot/grub/install.sh, all that might need doing is to run the install script: sh /boot/grub/install.sh You can back out of the chroot when you are done: umount /usr (if necessary) exit umount /mnt/disk ctrl-alt-del to reboot Here is part of my grub but the installer might make kernel commands for your board that are different from mine. You could also look at /etc/lilo.conf, if you don't have menu.lst, for some reason. The commands might have been put there in the append= statement. timeout 7 color black/cyan yellow/cyan i18n (hd3,7)/boot/grub/messages keytable (hd3,7)/boot/us.klt default 9 title linux kernel (hd3,7)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdg8 devfs=mount noapic hdc=ide-scsi vga=788 initrd (hd3,7)/boot/initrd.img title linux-nonfb kernel (hd3,7)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdg8 devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi initrd (hd3,7)/boot/initrd.img title failsafe kernel (hd3,7)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdg8 failsafe devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi initrd (hd3,7)/boot/initrd.img title windows root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 I just remembered there is also an option to reinstall the bootloader after typing F1. The thing with the bootfloppies is, probably, because the kernel has become too big/there is not enough room for the initrd.img. That has been a problem for a lot of people. Rolf [1] http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/admin/index.html#er Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to make adsl-start available for users?
Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes wrote: Hello Many thanks. I did as you have suggested but everytime I issue the command sudo /usr/sbin/adsl-start, a password is requested. Thanks Eduardo Like Jack said, look for typos and 'cat /etc/sudoers' to see if your edit is there. I remember having a hard time getting the syntax exactly right when I was first trying to do this; seem to recall getting error messages from visudo. Something about spacing/tabbing needing to be exactly right. What I do now is copy and paste from a working file. You might want to select the root line by dragging with the left mouse button depressed and paste it where you want it (beginning of newline) by depressing the middle button. Then, carefully change the name to your own and the commands as needed. Maybe pasting my command and changing the names would survive the email journey but I don't know. I suspect that syntax/spacing deal. Rolf On Sunday 05 October 2003 08:28 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes wrote: Hello I can only adsl-start by logging as root. How can I make adsl-start available for all users? I tried sudousers but no avail (It is more than likely that I did something wrong but I don't know what). Many thanks Ed As root in a terminal, call visudo. This is the vi editor operating on /etc/sudoers. Press 'I' to insert some text and, since I have done this for me, and not wanting to give a password when I call adsl-start, you might want to insert something like the following if you want that: rolfALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/adsl-start, /usr/sbin/adsl-stop, /usr/bin/rdate and so forth. I put it right under root's line. To save, press 'Escape' and type :wq The command to execute is sudo /usr/sbin/adsl-start, for example. I create an icon on the desktop with that as the command to execute. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [OT] Reply-to
T. Ribbrock wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 10:14:55AM +, Dick Gevers wrote: Would you please be so kind to fix your Reply-to setting ? As it is now it sends a reply only to you; not to the list. Thanks! As the list archives don't seem to work[0], please allow me one question: *Why* does this list have a Reply-To, anyway? To me, a Reply-To set to the list always seemed a rather stupid idea, as it makes the default to reply to the list - and accidentally replying to the list when it isn't intended is a lot more embarrassing than accidentally just sending something to a single person instead of the list. In the latter case I just resend it, in the former case I won't be able to retract the mail... Also, good mail programs have list-reply functions, anyway - so what's the added functionality? If I understand you, there is no need to set your mail agent's reply-to to the list. In fact, if you leave reply-to unset, all replies to mail you send will be sent back to the address you are sending from, except in such cases as the mailing lists, where replies ought to be automatically sent to the list, not you. The list is a public forum, not a private resource. If someone wants to make a private reply to a mail on the list, it is incumbent upon them to reply only to the individual, not incumbent upon everyone else to change the automatic behavior everytime they wish to reply to the list. Simply leave your reply-to unset. http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/reply-to Thanks for enlightening me, Thomas [0] on archives.mandrakelinux.com, I get Can not connect to search daemon - are there other archives? These pages contain other list archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker http://www.mail-archive.com/lists.html Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Getting rid of ¨Remember last session¨
Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes wrote: Hello This is probably a silly question but here it is ... I want to turn off the option that makes KDE to remember what I did on the previous session. Actually KDE doesn't remember exactly what I did, it always opens some konqueror windows, a root command (asking for password) and three terminal sessions. I want to get rid of them. Many thanks Eduardo kde control center (kcontrol) components session manager on login start with empty session Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to make adsl-start available for users?
Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes wrote: Hello I can only adsl-start by logging as root. How can I make adsl-start available for all users? I tried sudousers but no avail (It is more than likely that I did something wrong but I don't know what). Many thanks Ed As root in a terminal, call visudo. This is the vi editor operating on /etc/sudoers. Press 'I' to insert some text and, since I have done this for me, and not wanting to give a password when I call adsl-start, you might want to insert something like the following if you want that: rolfALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/adsl-start, /usr/sbin/adsl-stop, /usr/bin/rdate and so forth. I put it right under root's line. To save, press 'Escape' and type :wq The command to execute is sudo /usr/sbin/adsl-start, for example. I create an icon on the desktop with that as the command to execute. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 02:50 am, Anne Wilson wrote: [..] And if you don't like to use the command line, use File Manager, Super User. Shut it down when you've finished, but you can safely leave it open until you have finished and tested what you are doing. Anne Of course in 9.2 you'll have to *make* FM Super User mode first. It seems to have been disappeared. Charlie I don't know how the menu item, FM Super User mode, will be resolved but you can always press alt-F2 and type in kdesu konqueror to run konqueror as root, after supplying the root password, or kdesu anything to run anything as root. At least, kdebase must be installed as kdesu is part of that. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 09:46 am, Rolf Pedersen wrote: [..] I don't know how the menu item, FM Super User mode, will be resolved but you can always press alt-F2 and type in kdesu konqueror to run konqueror as root, after supplying the root password, or kdesu anything to run anything as root. At least, kdebase must be installed as kdesu is part of that. Rolf Thanks for stating the blatantly obvious when the merely obvious would suffice. (-: Rolf, I know how to work around it, you know how to do it, what does Mr./Mrs./Ms. J. Sixpack do when s/he's told to use that utility and it ain't there? You can explain until you're blue but the average user is just going to see it as confirmation of; and detractors will use it as more fuel for, the Linux is too hard! FUD fire. In my opinion it's just another example of my stated objection to developers having *anything* to do with deciding user interfaces or GUI functionality. The so called ergonomics of a distribution. The distance between the species is far too great. A desktop manager is the ultimate in GUI functionality and 99% of what a newbie will base their opinions of a distribution on are rooted in that. Since in this case it is lacking a few expected functions that opinion will probably be rather low for 9.2. Uber-geek workarounds, or even regular geek workarounds, are not the correct direction to push the desktop managers. _Any_ desktop manager. It's a sad state of affairs IMHO. Charlie Well, that's not exactly how I see it. Having never used the menu item for File Manager Super User mode, I can see where someone else might have more of an attachment to it. There are other expected behaviors, such as being able to decline installation of a bootloader at install when I simply want to add an entry to an existing bootloader, that have caused me more personal discomfiture when they have disappeared. However, my overall perception is that virtually all the software in the distro is in a fairly rapid state of flux, as there is plenty of room for improvement, and further demands are placed on developers by the evolution of hardware. Having tried gentoo, debian, slackware, suse, et al, I appreciate the work that Mandrake have done to produce and maintain this, relatively, easy to use distribution out of thousands of disparate and changing softwares. One of the strengths of Linux is the variety of choices it provides. Considering that change is inevitable in such an environment, it is better to concentrate on the power and flexibility of choice than get stuck on how things used to work. For someone who doesn't even know where the menu is, for example, it is almost easier to describe how to use alt-F2 than how to get to Applications File Tools File Manager-Super User Mode. The changes can cause some stress but I don't think that is, necessarily, the developers' fault. A user's expectations have much to do with stress and, as long as the functionality is attainable, education about choices and sensible expectations can go a lot further to reduce stress than trying to change what are, in many cases, pragmatic consequences of development. Like I said, different procedures are going to have a different importance to different people. It's easy to be cool about something not being there anymore when you have never used it and I don't know for a fact that su mode won't be there when 9.2 comes out. Maybe it was just an oversight. There are probably not sufficient personnel, at present, for there to be a separate ergonomics department ( http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerm=105661890523522w=2 ) so I think they are doing the best they can with what they have. At any rate, changes are going to happen, some way of doing something or another will disappear for someone or another, and it's best to be flexible. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] gaim compile problem
bascule wrote: i'm trying to compile gaim0.70 from the src rpm on their homepage i get the following error: GTK+ 2.0 is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the GTK+ *** development headers installed. The latest version of GTK+ is *** always available at http://www.gtk.org/. error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.61678 (%build) however i believe i have the devel package installed so: [EMAIL PROTECTED] downloads-linux]$ rpm -q libgtk+2.0_0-devel libgtk+2.0_0-devel-2.0.6-8mdk so is there another devel package i need? bascule You might want to try urpmq -d on the source rpm, or urpmi --test on the source rpm to see what additional packages would get installed, then install them. If you urpmi the src rpm, that will pull in the dependencies and you could rpmbuild -bb on the spec file that installs under /usr/src/RPM. Do you have libgtk+-x11-2.0_0 installed? Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia
Richard Bown wrote: Hi All, On 2 different PC's both with MDK9.1 on I'm geeting a prob with the MDK Club site. If I cut and paste the urpmi media config command I get this, It always fails with the same thing. Different mirrors tried as well and all the selections . Me confused [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# urpmi.addmedia -h mirrors.usc.edu_ ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/ unable to take medium contrib_ftp.club-internet.fr_i586_9.1 into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.contrib_ftp.club-internet.fr_i586_9.1] exists [..] ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/hdlist2.cz retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium mirrors.usc.edu_ examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mirrors.usc.edu_.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium mirrors.usc.edu_ unable to update medium mirrors.usc.edu_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# Any ideas TIA Richard For one thing, I pasted the url, ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/, into my browser url bar and got a 'too many connections' error. This will cause addmedia failures so you might want to do such a check. Another thing is the url is too vague. At least, in any case I have added a source, on command line or with software sources manager, the url/path has to be to some RPMS directory, i.e. the directory that contains the rpms. If your browser test shows a server is accessible, drill down through the appropriate release and category directories until you get the url of the RPMS directory and try appending the rest of that url to the command. I think there is a bug in the command-generating script at Club, perhaps. It looks like a series of addmedia errors has left some crud in your database where no hdlists are being found. Maybe you could urpmi.removemedia these sources to clean that up or use software sources manager to do that. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] still struggling with the HP netserver E45, puhhhh
James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 15:31, Terje Heen wrote: Have tried to install mandrake 9.1 for the 5 tile with no success. booting from the cd, installing everything and it looks good until I reboot. Then the machine goes to the login window (still ok) login, pass ok then appears the info window regarding starting KDE after some seconds it seems that the HD is going bananas (writing ,writing ,writing ,writing og reading, reading ,reading, reading ) until I turn the power off.. Noticed that I got an error message durin boot. : Modprobe: Cant locate fb0. please help me someone. Terje. Terje, try this one when lilo comes up push the escape key. Now boot linux 3 this will boot you into runlevel 3. If this doesn't work do a normal boot but don't login. The do a ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a term window and login as root then type # telinit 3 then you will want to vi /etc/lilo.conf and look for a line like this vga=788 or vga=791 change it to vga=normal save and then at the command prompt type lilo (to reset lilo for your changes.) this will allow you to boot normal not using frame buffer (fb0 is frame buffer) reboot the computer and you should notice a normal bootup and the fb0 problem should be gone. What it seems is that the frame buffer resolution is not the correct one for what your box can do. 788 is 800x600 791 is 1024x768 and the rest I don't know. James PS Anyone know how to do the same thing with grub? I am not sure what you mean by the same thing *but* when you get the grub menu, the default is highlighted. Move to the entry you want to boot or leave it at default and press 'e' to edit the entry (this is one of the instructions that come with the menu screen). The first line will be highlighted and this is the one that contains vga=788, on my menu, anyway. Press 'e' again to edit that line or move to the line you want to edit and press 'e'. You can now add, delete, or change entries for that line. When you are done editing, press 'Enter' to accept the edit, edit another line, if you want, then type 'boot' and press 'Enter' to boot the edited entry. This is handy to try different kernel options without editing files. Also handy if you can't boot because of a typo in the menu or some wrong reference/syntax. I don't know if lilo has such a feature. If the change is what you want, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to make it permanent. No need to reinstall grub. If you're asking if vga=normal is proper grub syntax, I have never used it *but* here is an archive that says it is: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg40532.html Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] re-installed mdk 9.1 now unable to use cdrw?
resend; Please do not set a 'Reply-to' in your mail client when posting to the list. http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette David James wrote: I have been using mdk 9.1 for a number of months now without any problems and of course I got bored and decided to fiddle with the system,BIG mistake, ie update my nvidia drivers,unfortunately I broke the system,no problem I thought all I need to do is re-install mdk and I can still keep all my settings,data etc,this is what I did and everything seemed to work to plan except that I can no longer use k3b it keeps showing the error: No support for ATAPI with cdrdao enable ide-scsi (SCSI emulation) as far as I know this has been enabled,see lilo below. I also set cdrdao driver to generic-mmc, as advised but still no joy. I don't use k3b but what I hear is a reader must be scsi emulated in order to burn copy from it and wonder, if you have a cdrom, whether adding hdx=ide-scsi to the append= statement and running lilo would satisfy k3b wrt this error, or, if /sbin/lilo somehow has not got executed during reinstall. I guess you could verify what parameters are passed at boot with cat /proc/cmdline. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] re-installed mdk 9.1 now unable to use cdrw?
Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 3:33 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: resend; Please do not set a 'Reply-to' in your mail client when posting to the list. http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquet te David James wrote: I have been using mdk 9.1 for a number of months now without any problems and of course I got bored and decided to fiddle with the system,BIG mistake, ie update my nvidia drivers,unfortunately I broke the system,no problem I thought all I need to do is re-install mdk and I can still keep all my settings,data etc,this is what I did and everything seemed to work to plan except that I can no longer use k3b it keeps showing the error: No support for ATAPI with cdrdao enable ide-scsi (SCSI emulation) as far as I know this has been enabled,see lilo below. I also set cdrdao driver to generic-mmc, as advised but still no joy. I don't use k3b but what I hear is a reader must be scsi emulated in order to burn copy from it and wonder, if you have a cdrom, whether adding hdx=ide-scsi to the append= statement and running lilo would satisfy k3b wrt this error, or, if /sbin/lilo somehow has not got executed during reinstall. I guess you could verify what parameters are passed at boot with cat /proc/cmdline. Rolf Rolf, he already has hdd=ide-scsi in his lilo.conf. I wonder if he has checked that it really is hdd - though I can't see why it should have changed. It's worth checking also, that XCDRoast can't do what he needs. k3b doesn't work correctly on my system and xcdroast has no problem at all. Anne Yes, Anne, I saw that. What I am thinking of is that both the reader, if you have one, and the writer must be scsi-emulated for some apps to work. Here is a post where such advice to make the reader also scsi-emulated for k3b to work is mentioned: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Jul/2997.html Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] grub-install won't
Felix Miata wrote: For reasons I won't get into, I had to reinstall 9.1 today. Ever since I first discovered it more than two years ago, I've used grub exclusively as my boot loader. During this install, as on the same machine about three months ago, I specified grub during installation. During late installation, the configuration step, I noticed that the boot loader had been changed back to lilo after having specified grub earlier, and changed it again to grub. On first boot, I was shocked to discover a graphical boot menu that looked unlike anything I'd ever seen before on Mandrake. Eventually I learned this was the graphical lilo, since on my /boot partition I simply copied back my old menu.lst over the stupid one the installer applies, and found on next boot no change. So, I tried to run 'grub-install /dev/hda5'. To that I am greeted by the following message: sed: -e expression #1, char 12: Invalid reference \1 on 's' command's RHS sed: -e expression #1, char 12: Invalid reference \1 on 's' command's RHS Unrecognized ls output: Not found or not a block device. So, I tried the long-winded version: grub-install /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 only to be greeted by /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. So, I tried the grub syntax: grub-install (0,4) but got the following error: -bash: syntax error near unexpected token '0,4' Then: grub-install 0,4 but got only a usage message. Then: grub-install hd0,4 but again got only a usage message. Then: grub-install --recheck /dev/hda5 and again got: Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. /dev/hda5 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. Then: grub-install --root-directory=/boot '(hd0)' and again got: sed: -e expression #1, char 12: Invalid reference \1 on 's' command's RHS sed: -e expression #1, char 12: Invalid reference \1 on 's' command's RHS Unrecognized ls output: Not found or not a block device. How do I get grub back? FWIW, /dev/hda has 22 partitions. IIRC, it had 19 when I last installed 9.1 on it. It has 255hd, 63s, cyl, units = 16065 * 512 on a PIIX4 00:07.1 controller. A NEC ehci USB 2.0 PCI host was added since last install. Is grub installed w/o problem (rpm -V grub)? If it is and you did not re-partition for the re-install, there should be /boot/grub/install.sh and you could try: sh /boot/grub/install.sh Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] grub-install won't
Felix Miata wrote: Rolf Pedersen wrote: Felix Miata wrote: How do I get grub back? FWIW, /dev/hda has 22 partitions. IIRC, it had 19 when I last installed 9.1 on it. It has 255hd, 63s, cyl, units = 16065 * 512 on a PIIX4 00:07.1 controller. A NEC ehci USB 2.0 PCI host was added since last install. Pretend I'm Gomer Pyle: thank you thank you thank you!!! Is grub installed w/o problem (rpm -V grub)? I don't understand this output, even after reading man rpm: ..5. /boot/grub/stage2 I thought the 5 meant something to do with md5sum, but it happened initially, then not after 'rpm -e grub...' followed by 'rpm -i grub...', then again after reboot, and still now. The time it didn't, the return was simply blank. If it is and you did not re-partition for the re-install, there should be /boot/grub/install.sh and you could try: sh /boot/grub/install.sh This did work!!! So, since this can do it, what is the problem with grub-install? I have not used grub-install but, from info grub installing grub invoking grub-install, I see a possible syntax error. The example given is like grub-install '(hd0)' There is a syntax similar to one you tried in the Linux+Win9x+Grub HOWTO from the Documentation category: # /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda which should install grub to the MBR of the first disk. Maybe your command did install to /dev/hda5, which I frequently do to install multiple OS's but would not touch the MBR, where lilo was. Grub installed to a partition can be loaded with a menu item in the menu for grub installed in the MBR like: title 9.2 rc2 grub root (hd3,11) chainloader +1 and choosing this title from the primary grub menu. I am somewhat more familiar with installing from the grub shell, for which I also defer to info grub but there is a documented procedure, after calling grub as root, that includes something like root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) It is possible, relative to what Mark Weaver wrote, that reinstalling grub rewrote the map and stagex files in such a way that reflected any changes in disk notation that occurred since the first time you installed 9.1 but I couldn't say for sure. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders
Lee Wiggers wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:25:05 -0400 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 11:31 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: 9.2 is supposed to go final RSN (Monday?), but neither the Mandrake home page nor the Mandrake Store have any mention about accepting orders for it. There's a thread on the Club Forum about this (and yes, I did add my two cents worth), but no response has been forthcoming from anyone at Mandrake. How's this for marketing skills: I've bought every PowerPack since 8.1 through the Store, and I've been a Club member (Silver) since January, 2002. What's wrong the Store sending an email asking if I want to reserve my copy now? Arg... Perhaps they have had enough of the criticism from people who pre-order and then get their boxes late or never. Maybe this is their way of fixing the Store. Another thought, IIRC, one of the main reasons to pre-order was cash flow. Let us charge your card now and we'll ship later. Perhaps this is a good sign that they do not need the cash flow from pre-orders. Or perhaps they are broke because they don't try to make money? Watching Mandrake shoot itself in the foot over and over again, marketing-wise has been the most unpleasant part of my mdk experience over the past 3 years. The corporate they sure have big feet. Lee Such comments as Mandrake 'don't try to make money' or 'shoot itself in the foot over and over again' are not, to my mind, particularly kind, productive, or even accurate. In the 08/01/2003 Mandrake Linux Community Newsletter - Issue #82, there is a link to the MandrakeSoft Shareholder Newsletter, which contains the following: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors/newsletter/sn030724 For the first half year of the current fiscal year, MandrakeSoft's consolidated revenue decreased by 10% to 2.10 million euros over the same period of the previous year. This decrease is mainly due to the weakness of the US dollar, which is the main currency of MandrakeSoft's revenue. With last year's USD/euro exchange rate, consolidated revenue would have remained mostly stable (-2%). Consolidated gross margins for the first half year increased by 24%. This significant increase reflects an important change in revenue sources: # Increase in high margin revenue lines such as OEM, on-line sales and subscriptions to MandrakeLinux Users Club (from 40% to 63% of consolidated revenue), # Decrease in retail sales (from 51% to 27% of consolidated revenue). For the first half year of the current fiscal year, MandrakeSoft reported a consolidated operating loss of 1.27 million euros which is an improvement of 2.4 million euros compared to last year's same period. This improvement is mainly due to an increase in gross margin plus savings from the ongoing cost reduction plan. The lack of brick-and-mortar presence and hard-copy infrastructure is, probably, part of the cost-cutting realities with which Mandrake must cope in order to dig out of the hole, in order to survive. It is not difficult to toss out facile criticisms of Mandrake's business performance and postulate simplistic strategies that, if only Mandrake would follow them, all the problems would be solved. That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world with a comparable, more profitable linux distribution suggests that, notwithstanding the possibilities of a million monkeys typing on a million keyboards for a million years, these lists are not the likely source of the proper tough decisions Mandrake must make in order to continue in the challenging, sometimes hostile, unpredictable corporate environment. To paraphrase Vincent Danen [1], the more pragmatic course for those who would consider themselves Mandrake supporters would be ... to put their money where their mouth is, get on board, do the right thing to ensure their OS of choice sticks around, and when the cash starts to surplus a little more, then I think you have an honest argument to say listen, we did what we had to do to keep you guys around, now you do what you have to do to keep us around. As one of the minority [2] who supports Mandrake the company, the developers, the physical infrastructure, these lists, et al with the cash purchase of a Club membership, I would like it known how much it displeases me that freeloaders will seize upon such easly-constructed negative characterizations as a rationalization for not spending any money for what they download. Yet, they never seem to go away :p Rolf [1] http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2003-09/msg01607.php [2] http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg122507.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] hijacking: was Gopher was something else
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 3:38 pm, Eric Huff wrote: Would a link to one of the many copies of RFC 1855 such as this one be relevant here? It could be quoted as a more thorough authority. HTML http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html#3 Not to be a spoil sport but isn't this a bit much? 6 or 7 points and requests from my peers is sufficient to guide me. I'm in two minds. Personally I prefer the informal, but there are those who only defer to authority. I don't mind either way. Give it today to get some opinions, then I'll go with the majority. I personally also prefer the informal. But, if someone reads our entire list and gets to a link at the bottom, they can, if interested, look into it more. We could expand the The 'rules' of internet usage... line to emphasize If you are interested I don't feel strongly either way, so i'll also just side with the majority (which, of course, doesn't help in creating a majority :). eric I think if I were reading it for the first time, I would think 'OK - that's what they want.' Then when I got to the bottom, I would probably say 'I'll have a look at that sometime' - and I'd probably forget about it. But it's there if anyone does want/need it. Anne I think it is good to have the links as they are. No one will follow them unless they want to know more and it is better to provide the opportunity for more information to those who would like it. It also provides some 'weight' to the informal presentation of protocol. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders
HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:42:37 -0700 Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world with a comparable, more profitable linux distribution suggests that, notwithstanding the possibilities of a million monkeys typing on a million keyboards for a million years, these lists are not the likely source of the proper tough decisions Mandrake must make in order to continue in the challenging, sometimes hostile, unpredictable corporate environment. well, us chattering monkeys should just keep our mouths shut, eh, ralphy boy? LOL! anyway, go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut, ya snot-nosed bitch, if the sound of those typewriters in keeping you awake, go hide under a rock and us lowly end-users will try to keep it down a bit. QED Absent any logical refutation of my points, I suppose this eloquent exposition of your master of profanity will have to do. It seems those whose powers of reason fail to serve must resort to cruder expressions of agression. Alas, it would appear your 'powers' have abandoned you long before the Rice Krispies have lost their snap crackle and pop. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders
James Sparenberg wrote: On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 12:13, Rolf Pedersen wrote: HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:42:37 -0700 Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world with a comparable, more profitable linux distribution suggests that, notwithstanding the possibilities of a million monkeys typing on a million keyboards for a million years, these lists are not the likely source of the proper tough decisions Mandrake must make in order to continue in the challenging, sometimes hostile, unpredictable corporate environment. well, us chattering monkeys should just keep our mouths shut, eh, ralphy boy? LOL! anyway, go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut, ya snot-nosed bitch, if the sound of those typewriters in keeping you awake, go hide under a rock and us lowly end-users will try to keep it down a bit. QED Absent any logical refutation of my points, I suppose this eloquent exposition of your master of profanity will have to do. It seems those whose powers of reason fail to serve must resort to cruder expressions of agression. Alas, it would appear your 'powers' have abandoned you long before the Rice Krispies have lost their snap crackle and pop. Rolf Excuse me.. But how about this both of you shut up I'm tired of wah and whine. end it here and now. Too bad Todd isn't around to start blocking. Why? I have to sift through endless diverted threads comprised only of clever personal asides, not to mention your own use of this list to inject innuendo about your real or imagined mistreatment on the cooker list. Why is that I must read all the uninformed conjecture and projection about the terrible job Mandrake is doing and, when I provide some intelligence to the contrary, when I step up to provide part of what is the minority defense of Mandrake to what is already an innapropriate body of not more than FUD, I should tolerate such a vulgar attack and your own threat-by-proxy lest I abandon my viewpoint, just because it does not cleave to your espousals, apparently? It's an open list and, like I say, I'm paying for it. Rolf James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders
ed tharp wrote: On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 15:13, Rolf Pedersen wrote: HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:42:37 -0700 Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world with a comparable, more profitable linux distribution suggests that, notwithstanding the possibilities of a million monkeys typing on a million keyboards for a million years, these lists are not the likely source of the proper tough decisions Mandrake must make in order to continue in the challenging, sometimes hostile, unpredictable corporate environment. well, us chattering monkeys should just keep our mouths shut, eh, ralphy boy? LOL! anyway, go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut, ya snot-nosed bitch, if the sound of those typewriters in keeping you awake, go hide under a rock and us lowly end-users will try to keep it down a bit. QED Absent any logical refutation of my points, I suppose this eloquent exposition of your master of profanity will have to do. It seems those whose powers of reason fail to serve must resort to cruder expressions of agression. Alas, it would appear your 'powers' have abandoned you long before the Rice Krispies have lost their snap crackle and pop. Rolf Well, Far be it from me to have to appear to defend Haywire, but to a logical refutation of your points, ,,, That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world with a comparable, more profitable linux distribution Well that might be _YOUR_ point, but as someone who has posted somewhat earlier in this thread, and to who's posts you may (it appears) be responding to before this latest input from Hatewire,, errr,,, Hey-wire, it never was the intent of anyone (before you interjected) to create a _new_ or different product,, (you seem to have that on your mind from my reading) as we are pretty sure the product tests out to be the best available,,, what we are discussing is any manner that the members of this group can CONSTRUCTIVELY contribute their own areas of expertise in some manner that will NOT reinvent the wheel, or interfere with the business of Mandrakesoft. Well, you attribute to me only what Haywire quoted for his ends; hardly fair. Did you read my original post? I explicitly quoted Lee Wiggers: Such comments as Mandrake 'don't try to make money' or 'shoot itself in the foot over and over again' are not, to my mind, particularly kind, productive, or even accurate. and went on to provide some documentation to the contrary. Please read that. I have been on these lists long enough to see the same story play out over and over again. I'm sorry but I don't think developing alternate distribution strategies is a practical topic for this list. It's the sort of topic that has not yielded anything but OT ruminations for the three-and-a-half years that I am aware. Personally, I am tired of seeing both the speculative hypotheses of how Mandrake is screwing up and how to fix it on_this_list. Maybe something could be accomplished but that is not born out by history and the noise is not justified by the small chance that that it will happen. I made a number of points that further include my observation that facile criticism and reasons for downloading without paying anything go, in large part, hand-in-hand. Not even to say that anyone in this thread practices such a thing but that, to allow such criticisms to go unchallenged, in my way of thinking, is to only make it easier for leechers to think they have a reason. Rolf Really I think almost everyone that contributed to this thread would rather shut up than have someone take the quote out of context and have it sound as though they were not pro-mandrake, but I also believe everyone that I have seen contribute to _this_ thread, so far, has already _earned_ the right to speak their mind on this subject, haywire excluded g due to lack of mind, not lack of earned right. So, that said, I am willing to take input (off list) from anyone with contacts or ideas, regarding the ability to distribute and print CDs and make sales to the major distributors in the USA of retail software, and even if I don't respond to your input, I welcome and promise to read it. I want it made clear that nothing will happen without the consent of Mandrakesoft, even though I know I can take the GPL version and do just as cheepbytes does, and that whatever (if anything) does come of it, it will be to AID Mandrakesoft. ET Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders
Lee Wiggers wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:56:53 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] The moral of the story is. In order to sell a product the doors need to be open to customers. James My point exactly...entirely. I understand the passionate defense. I don't understand the lack of product. Mandrake is far better at giving things away than selling them. That's not a bad thing. Think I'll go lurk for a couple of more years. I get smarter listening than talking. Lee I thought the link to the Shareholders newsletter and the direct quote in my post provided some explanation for the changing face of Mandrake's distribution channels. Wobo, IIRC, also has alluded to the possibly risky capital investment needed for box production/distribution having made that avenue less of a short-term solution. Have these suggestions no credibility? That quote from the newsletter, in part: Consolidated gross margins for the first half year increased by 24%. This significant increase reflects an important change in revenue sources: # Increase in high margin revenue lines such as OEM, on-line sales and subscriptions to MandrakeLinux Users Club (from 40% to 63% of consolidated revenue), # Decrease in retail sales (from 51% to 27% of consolidated revenue). Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders
ed tharp wrote: On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 16:35, Rolf Pedersen wrote: Well, you attribute to me only what Haywire quoted for his ends; not really that was all that was quoted, but I feel pretty confidant that I was also replying to the over all tenor of your post, and only since you brought up the 'a comparable, more profitable linux distribution' argument, which _is_ what I responded directly to. You responded to what you read, including Haywire's interpretation, which hardly does anything to clarify my points. What I was trying to say about noone providing something similar to what Mandrake does was meant to imply only that, perhaps, so many who are so quick to try to explain what Mandrake's problem is should do what Mandrake have done before making what are really uninformed, insulting comments about the company and the developers. I see it as insulting when comments are made that imply such as what Wiggers said about the people who make the distro, that they are incompetent or, generally, such facile suggestions are all that Mandrake is missing. Maybe that's just me. [..] Personally, I am tired of seeing both the speculative hypotheses of how Mandrake is screwing up and how to fix it on_this_list. then maybe a filter for this thread would work for you?? Thanks for the condescending suggestion. Quite a while ago, on Mandrake Forum, Denis mused whether he was wasting time responding to the anonymous coward Mandrake bashers. I posted that I thought he should provide his alternate viewpoint as, if the FUD went unchallenged, those who didn't know better could very well adopt the FUD as truth. I don't make a habit of stirring the pot but I have made some hundreds of posts to the lists, probably, when I thought I had something to offer or to learn, as well as almost 3 thousand posts to the old MandrakeUser.org forum, where I had become a moderator before its demise. My involvement is such that I am not always going to simply ignore what seems to me to be uninformed/insulting comments about the distribution I would like to succeed. Rolf ET Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders
John Wilson wrote: Sadly, Rolf, having no visible distrubution channel, ie product on physical shelves in bricks and mortar physical stores, will reduce Mandrake to invisibilty in North Amercia. Like it or not, and that applies to MandrakeSoft not you, we North Americans like to hold something in our hands and look at it. Kick its tires as it were. To get people to migrate to Mandrake is a whole lot easier if I have a box in my hand than directl them to a web site to order a package. This may not apply elsewhere on the planet but it does here. And that's the point that those of us who live on this continent have been saying. If boxed sets don't start showing up here it amounts to writing off this market. And that's just the way it is. I do understand the need to cut costs at MandrakeSoft and I do empathize with them on this point. It's just that the wrong marketing decision was made with respect to this part of the world. And that, too, is just the way it is. Perhaps one day we'll be comfortable with the notion of doing most or all our purchasing on line. But given the overhype of the internet on this market and it's abject failure to deliver on that hype it's gonna take a long, long time. ttfn John I don't know if you think I am from some other continent but I am in Oakland, CA, USA. It might be the majority of North Americans would rather buy a pack in a store but I am here, I bought the 7.1 Power Pack online from a nearby reseller, and I have downloaded ever since. Linux (as experienced through Mandrake, mostly) is hardly without substantial discomfort due to a rapid rate of change. There are changes in the software, in how things are done, in things being not where you have just learned to find them. As an advocate, I would suggest that those who think it would be a good thing to continue to use Mandrake in future should accomodate this one further increment of change discomfort by finding a way to support Mandrake that Mandrake can currently afford to do. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders
Mark Weaver wrote: Rolf Pedersen wrote: HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:42:37 -0700 Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world with a comparable, more profitable linux distribution suggests that, notwithstanding the possibilities of a million monkeys typing on a million keyboards for a million years, these lists are not the likely source of the proper tough decisions Mandrake must make in order to continue in the challenging, sometimes hostile, unpredictable corporate environment. well, us chattering monkeys should just keep our mouths shut, eh, ralphy boy? LOL! anyway, go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut, ya snot-nosed bitch, if the sound of those typewriters in keeping you awake, go hide under a rock and us lowly end-users will try to keep it down a bit. QED Absent any logical refutation of my points, I suppose this eloquent exposition of your master of profanity will have to do. It seems those whose powers of reason fail to serve must resort to cruder expressions of agression. Alas, it would appear your 'powers' have abandoned you long before the Rice Krispies have lost their snap crackle and pop. Rolf nah...I think he was simply telling you in language you'd be quick to understand that, the original poster IS a card carrying, distro purchasing Mandrake User and NOT, as you so rudely put it, a typing monkey. So please, go and wipe your nose and pull yer yead outa yer ass long enough to Read and understand the printed word before making a complete ass of yourself. Wait!...too late since you're obviously already a complete ass and the making can't be help. Forgive me...you're just being yourself. Actually, it was an allusion to a well-known statement that 'a million monkeys pounding away on a million typewriters for a million years would, eventually, type out the complete works of Shakespeare'. Something like that. Google it. To be direct, it was a way of saying that I considered it very unlikely that Mandrake's business strategy was going to be developed via suggestions from this list. Despite what the foul-mouthed contingent apparently contends, I called noone a monkey. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How can I make a RPM source after installed ?
Luis Duran wrote: I did installed the kgpg (gpg for kde frontend) but i found it in source rpm, I typed: rpm -i kgpg-1.0.0-3mdk.src.rpm. I found this list in /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/ : kgpg-0.9.1-fix-libtool.patch.bz2 kgpg-1.0.0.tar.bz2 But now i don't know if must decompress this files directly and follow the normal procedure (read the readme and install file and try to install it) or there is special tools and procedures for RPM sources once installed by rpm tool. I will appreciate i you can help me. Thanks in advanced. Luis Duran Once you install a source rpm, you can use rpmbuild -bb /path/to/specfile to build a binary rpm, then install that to have the running program. The spec file will install to /usr/src/RPM/SPECS/ The built rpm will be copied to /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/arch (usually i586). Make sure rpm-build is installed (urpmi rpm-build, as root), then see man rpmbuild. However, you probably just need to get and install the binary. I see Texstar has such a binary. To get it, follow the instructions to add a texstar source at http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/ and install with urpmi kgpg Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?
Avi Schwartz wrote: [..] need this extra help. One nice touch SuSE has is a small icon in the KDE task bar which changes color when there are updates available. Click on it and you get a menu allowing you to check for updates, show the last update log or start the update process. very nice, clean and can help users keep their system safe. Avi In cooker contrib/, there is such an app that has been recently written, mutray: MUTray sits in the KDE system tray, and displays a notification when there are new updates. It can then install the packages with urpmi. I think the binary will work in 9.1 or rebuild the contrib/SRPMS/mutray-0.3-2mdk.src.rpm package. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?
Dick Gevers wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:25:04 +0300, Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about
Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?:
Vincent Danen kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 17 Syyskuu
2003 22:07):
{ Avi Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] }
icon in the KDE task bar which changes color when there are updates
available. Click on it and you get a menu allowing you to check for
updates, show the last update log or start the update process. very
nice, clean and can help users keep their system safe.
I agree, this would be nice and hopefully this is something that can be
done for 9.3 or 10.0.
AFAIK in contribs there is a package started with the aim of doing this:
mdk-check-update-*
I haven't tested it myself so I can't say if it works...
With all due respect to you all, but I don`t like the idea one bit. It means
Mandrakesoft has a line into my taskbar which I did not ask for. Just as I
I don't think that's what it means. What it means is a cron job runs
urpmi.update to check if the update files on the mirror have changed
and, if so, notify the user that a new update is available. This is no
more revealing of your private information than running MandrakeUpdate
in attended mode.
Rolf
don`t like Microsoft working interactively with my computer, or other
adware/spyware calling home when I still used Windows, I wouldn`t like
Mandrakesoft to have a thread into any corner of my boxes. If it`s an
optional package, fine I won`t use it. If it comes built in the distro I
will disable it, remove it or whatever it takes to avoid it. It goes against
my sense of privacy. Maybe not to that of others, very well, but I don`t
like the idea.
Just my EUR 0.02.
Ciao,
=Dick Gevers=
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Re: [expert] urpmi not reading Mandrake CDs properly
Richard Urwin wrote: On Monday 15 Sep 2003 6:04 am, Rob Blomquist wrote: I am trying to install wine from my 9.1 CDs, which I believe are properly burned, as I can read them in Konqueror. Urpmi is ejecting the CD, and telling me that I need to install a different cd. I am assuming that some configuration file is corrupt, and I need to update urpmi for the CDs. I tryed running urpmi.update, but I don't see how to update the distrib CDs. Any ideas? 9.0 to 9.1 update doesn't update the urpmi sources. Richard, I'm surprised if that is the case. Was there a bug in 9.1 that sources weren't updated during an upgrade? Rob, did you upgrade to 9.1 or install? With how many CD's? When you do 'urpmi.update' without any source arguments, what is the list of sources urpmi expects you to specify one from? Also, in the menu Configuration Packaging Software Sources Manager, are all three CDs listed and enabled? If you installed from all three CD's, you can update CD1 by using the name urpmi.update gives you for the first CD as the argument, with CD1 in the reader. Escape any spaces with a backslash: urpmi.update Installation\ CD\ 1 You could repeat for the other CDs but leave CD1 in as this is the source of the package lists. Another way might be to put CD1 in the reader and do: urpmi.update -a Also, you could press the 'Update' button in Software Sources Manager, put CD1 in the reader, and select which CD(s) to update. If you installed from CD1 and want to add the others to sources, or the database has become broken, it is probably best to remove the CD sources in Software Sources Manager and add them back, with CD1 in the reader: urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://mnt/cdrom/ Adjust /mnt/cdrom to reflect your mount point. As to the integrity of the burned CDs, there is a good method for this on the wiki, if you still have the isos. The first step is to verify the isos with md5sum, then compare verified isos to the burned disk with Pierre Fortin's method here: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/BadISOMd5sumNotAlways If you don't have the isos, use the dd method and check the md5sum against the value in the file from the mirror. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: SOYO + AMD XP2500: new mobo
Philip Webb wrote: 030914 Greg Meyer wrote: What does your lilo.conf look like? Remember that board has to boot with 'noapic acpi=off'. assuming nothing has happened to the HD files, lilo.conf still has the 'noapic acpi=off' item. nothing should have changed on the HDD, which has remained in the box during the absence of the mobo. with the previous mobo, there was never any problem with Linux: the problems were all with the interaction of mobo/FSB/AGP, which now appear to have been solved (on the face of it). Can you boot off the cd in rescue mode no. or does every attempt to boot result in this error? yes. when i got into the machine with the RAMF-118 rescue diskette, i didn't try 'mount /dev/hdg /mnt/cdrom', which i'll try tonight. Seeming to recall that you have the hpt372 controller on this board, my experience is that you can only use this for ide hard drives, not cdroms or other ide devices. Mine is on an IWill xp333-r. I have experienced this limitation directly when trying to connect a zip drive to the hpt controller and it didn't work. The amdmb.com forums first alerted me to this fact and here is a search on the topic: http://www.amdforums.com/search.php?s=action=showresultssearchid=1131584sortby=lastpostsortorder=descending that includes a post stating such: http://www.amdforums.com/showthread.php?s=postid=1969023#post1969023 You do have to have the controller enabled by jumper in order to connect drives to it. Check the manual. Rolf i did try to get BIOS to boot from CD before HD, but may have given it the wrong drive (HD1 instead of HD2): the HDD is 'hde' the CDD is 'hdg'. in any case, it refused to boot from CD insisted on showing the Lilo prompt screen. again, there's also the 'scd0' thing: might that be relevant? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: SOYO + AMD XP2500: new mobo
Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 14 September 2003 09:02 pm, Philip Webb wrote: however, i'm not sure re the correspondence of names: there are IDE1 IDE2 IDE3 IDE4, then HDD0 HDD1 HDD2 HDD3 in Linux 'hda hdb hdc hdd hde hdf hdg hdh'.; Linux seems to see HDD0 (the hard drive) as 'hde'. can anyone offer clarific'n ? On my board, IDE0 (VIA Primary) hde, hdf == My burner attached here IDE1 (VIA Secondary) hdg, hdh == My cdrom IDE2 (Highpoint Primary) hda, hdb == My boot drive IDE3 (Highpoint Secndary) hdc, hdd == My spare drive You can switch the order of IDE0,1 and IDE2,3 by passing ide=reverse to the kernel at boot, so that your VIA channels will hold hda, hdb, hdc and hdd and the Highpoint channels will hold hde, hdf, hdg, and hdh. That's interesting. On the IWill, with ALi M1647 chipset, IDE0 and 1, the normal ide channels, are hda-hdd. The Highpoint channels come out as hde-hdg. My concern about the cdrom on hdg was based on this configuration and I didn't know it would be different for different chipsets. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.
T. Ribbrock wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Miark wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:15:48 +0200, T. Ribbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Logical conclusion: Don't buy Mandrake distros at all. Download them, remove the ads, be happy. As they're getting money that way anyway, I have even less reason to buy a box, *especially*, as the boxed version isn't even fully ad-free. How is that a logical conclusion? Just because MDK has another revenue source doesn't mean they need your purchases/contributions any less. Apparently they don't, as they're making purchasing the box less attractive - to me in any case. I was thinking about buying 9.2 (I just tested 9.1, coming from Red Hat, and was reasonably happy with what I saw), but under these circumstances I don't see why. If the boxed version was completely ad-free, I *would* buy it. If you want the download version, great, but if you care about MDK you should still be/continue to be a Club member if your budget allows. It's a company and I'm not a charity. Make the product worthwhile buying and I buy. Do you even use Mandrake? A product does not materialize out of thin air: it takes money for the people who produce it to live, no? What other products are you able to consume without recompense until you decide it comes up to your standards sufficiently to pay for it? Some must pay for what many take for free, be it advertisers or Club members. I wonder what percentage of the complainers about the ads actually support Mandrake with cash versus the percentage who complain merely because they would rather take without being reminded of the obligation. As for my bad concience: I don't even have a reason for that anymore, as Mandrake does get money either way now. And if I really want to support something, I rather spend money on true volunteer efforts, like e.g. buying OpenBSD CDs (now there's something I definitely won't download). Cheerio, Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RC2 installation
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Tom Brinkman schrieb am Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:30:39 -0500: burnin checked. For the original poster, back when I ran cooker with a dialup and help with ocaissonal cooker CD's from friends, I often had trouble reading they're burned CDr's. Specially with a CDrom, tho booting from my burner would often work well enough to get me thru the install after a few tries. In any event, I believe your system is just havin trouble with the CD's you were sent. Hmm, that may well be, because before that I only used either CDs I burnt on that same machine or production CDs. Ah well, how do I do a hard disk or ftp install without a floppy drive? This machine in question has a DVD, a CD-RW but no floppy drive. Can I burn the hd.img to a CD-R and boot with it? wobo Take a look at this wiki howto: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo#Via_Hard_Disk_or_Network_with_No Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RC2 installation
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Rolf Pedersen schrieb am Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:04:09 -0700: Ah well, how do I do a hard disk or ftp install without a floppy drive? This machine in question has a DVD, a CD-RW but no floppy drive. Can I burn the hd.img to a CD-R and boot with it? wobo Take a look at this wiki howto: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo#Via_Hard_Di sk_or_Network_with_No Yes, nice advice but only suitable if there is already a Linux installation there where I can put the files. The machine in question doesn't have a Linux system, I removed the 9.1 test system today. wobo At the install splash, you might try pressing F1 and booting with linux ide=nodma This sometimes helps with cd reading problems. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Trish's further adventures with sound
Patricia Fraser wrote: Hi all, Now that I've got alsa working with my CD, I've gone off to search ways to get MIDI working. I have a sneaking fondness for playmidi and have quite a collection of MIDI files; I'd hate to have to give 'em up! Alas! although I've progressed past utter silence and incomprehension from various apps, I've managed to lock the computer up *hard*, twice! [..] 8-) Not having used midi much, I can only say there was a Mandrake Club article that explained how to set up midi in 9.1 and, when I followed it, I was able to play some midi streams. Here is that article: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=979mode=nocomments Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files
lorne wrote: On Wednesday 10 September 2003 07:05 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: What I'm trying to say is that I get no package named hackaudacity. It isn't in most contrib sites. It must ONLY be at mandrake. ?? Oh, sorry. That's weird. I don't see it on a couple of mirrors I looked at. What I did when 9.1 came out was save my local cooker contrib/ mirror which should have been the same as the release. Maybe something has changed. If you want, I put a copy here: http://home.mindspring.com/~rolfpedersen/hackaudacity-1.1.0-4mdk.i586.rpm Thanks man. I appreciate it. Man it is s easy to get into dependencies hell! I do rpm -ivh hackaudacity-1.1.0-4mdk.i586.rpm and get: error: failed dependencies: libwx_gtk-2.3.so.1 is needed by hackaudacity-1.1.0-4mdk No problem, let's go find it. It is in a file called wxGTK-2.3.2-11.i386.rpm, so I think, well why not. I get: error: failed dependencies: OpenGL is needed by wxGTK-2.3.2-11 iconv is needed by wxGTK-2.3.2-11 wxwin-afm = 2.3.2 is needed by wxGTK-2.3.2-11 wxwin-common = 2.3.2 is needed by wxGTK-2.3.2-11 ARRG!!! hahahaha... I guess what I should do is concentrate on finding out why on earth two of the two editors I have installed refuse to recognize my /dev/dsp. ??? It makes no sense. ALL of the other numerous programs play audio with no problems at all. Yeah, that can be frustrating. Hmmm, looking at my sources, somehow, although there is at least one 9.1 package, most of what I am seeing are 9.0 contrib/ packages. I don't know how that happened but, if you want, I put the 9.0 version of wxGTK2.3_1-2.3.2-7mdk.i586.rpm, which installs when I 'urpmi hackaudacity' on my, otherwise, 9.1 setup, here: http://home.mindspring.com/~rolfpedersen/wxGTK2.3_1-2.3.2-7mdk.i586.rpm Sorry for the confusion! If you 'rpm -ivh' with both packages in one command and it installs, the executable is still audacity and starts by typing 'audacity' at the prompt. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files
David E. Fox wrote: Oh, sorry. That's weird. I don't see it on a couple of mirrors I looked at. What I did when 9.1 came out was save my local cooker I concur - audacity is good for mp3/wav editing - provided you have enough spare disk space. If you don't, don't try to save the project as a project file in your home directory. I use /tmp for most everything for that, since I don't have a lot of room left in /home and /tmp has several gigs available (editing roughly an hour's length of wav file will need close to 2.1 gigs of space). But what's 'hackaudacity'? What I remember is that hackaudacity was a patched version of audacity to workaround a certain bug. If you see my other note to lorne, it appears I somehow mirrored a mixture of 9.0 and 9.1 contrib/ and hackaudacity was part of 9.0, not 9.1. Rolf David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files
lorne wrote: On Thursday 11 September 2003 06:36 am, Rolf Pedersen wrote: lorne wrote: Yeah, that can be frustrating. Hmmm, looking at my sources, somehow, although there is at least one 9.1 package, most of what I am seeing are 9.0 contrib/ packages. I don't know how that happened but, if you want, I put the 9.0 version of wxGTK2.3_1-2.3.2-7mdk.i586.rpm, which installs when I 'urpmi hackaudacity' on my, otherwise, 9.1 setup, here: http://home.mindspring.com/~rolfpedersen/wxGTK2.3_1-2.3.2-7mdk.i586.rpm Sorry for the confusion! If you 'rpm -ivh' with both packages in one command and it installs, the executable is still audacity and starts by typing 'audacity' at the prompt. Rolf That is pretty cool. I downloaded the above and it installed with no complaints. I removed audacity and installed hackaudacity. On startup it says audio I/O error. I kind of expected this. Same thing with the old audacity, if you go to preferences to select an audio device the list is empty. I am sorely tempted to try a mickeysoft trick. Reboot and see if it is some sort of glitch. :) Try what Jack suggested: start by typing 'soundwrapper audacity' Another thing that impacts how sound apps access the sound server is the timeout setting in kcontrol Sound Sound System. I always set that to 1 sec so that arts unaware apps will not have to wait the default 30 seconds to use the sound server. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files
lorne wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2003 09:46 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: lorne wrote: On Monday 08 September 2003 08:03 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: lorne wrote: I know that previous version of Mandrake did have an editor. Darned if I can find one now. I have some wave and mp3 files I want to burn to CDrom and some of them have a VERY annoying screech at the beginning I want to clip off. you'd think this easy to find... am I just having a brain fart? I don't have much experience with this but you might want to take a look at hackaudacity in 9.1/contrib/. There was some bug in audacity that made hackaudacity a better choice, at the time I looked at it. Here is the qip: Audacity is a program that lets you manipulate digital audio waveforms. In addition to letting you record sounds directly from within the program, it imports many sound file formats, including WAV, AIFF, MP3 and Ogg/Vorbis. It supports all common editing operations such as Cut, Copy, and Paste, plus it will mix tracks and let you apply plug-in effects to any part of a sound. It also has a built-in amplitude envelope editor, a customizable spectrogram mode and a frequency analysis window for audio analysis applications. Rolf hey Rolf, The ONLY place I'm seeing that file is in mandrakes contrib? Is that true, or is there another site you know where it is? My guess is that I'm going to have the same problem with any. Audacity and another one (I forget the name right now) are having trouble with sound. The preferences pull down shows no devices at all and no way to add one that I can see. Since I run sound constantly I know I'm having now problems with it. I'm a little perplexed. about what could be wrong. I am not sure if you installed audacity or hackaudacity. They are both in contrib/: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2]$ urpmq --sources audacity file://back/contrib/audacity-1.0.0-3mdk.i586.rpm [EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2]$ urpmq --sources hackaudacity file://back/contrib/hackaudacity-1.1.0-4mdk.i586.rpm If you are having trouble with audacity, you might urpme that and urpmi hackaudacity, or vice versa. I think I tried audacity first, which didn't work for me, then, since, like I said, I had read about a bug in audacity, I tried hackaudacity, which got rolling and let me play with some editing. I didn't use it extensively, however, and don't remember what version I was using. Try hackaudacity. The two packages have conflicting files, so uninstall audacity first. Sorry I don't know more than that about it. What I'm trying to say is that I get no package named hackaudacity. It isn't in most contrib sites. It must ONLY be at mandrake. ?? Oh, sorry. That's weird. I don't see it on a couple of mirrors I looked at. What I did when 9.1 came out was save my local cooker contrib/ mirror which should have been the same as the release. Maybe something has changed. If you want, I put a copy here: http://home.mindspring.com/~rolfpedersen/hackaudacity-1.1.0-4mdk.i586.rpm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files
lorne wrote: On Monday 08 September 2003 08:03 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: lorne wrote: I know that previous version of Mandrake did have an editor. Darned if I can find one now. I have some wave and mp3 files I want to burn to CDrom and some of them have a VERY annoying screech at the beginning I want to clip off. you'd think this easy to find... am I just having a brain fart? I don't have much experience with this but you might want to take a look at hackaudacity in 9.1/contrib/. There was some bug in audacity that made hackaudacity a better choice, at the time I looked at it. Here is the qip: I take it that /contrib is NOT the 3rd disk then? I didn't find it. I'll go out and google for it. I guess since I'm no longer contributing I do not have acess to it. Thanks anyhow. 9.1/contrib/ is on the same mirrors that host the download isos. I see by your other post that you have tried Easy urpmi at PLF and it might be the problem with that is the mirror being busy; 9.2 rc2 is starting to get downloaded and you might try different mirrors, time of day to get through. Audacity is a program that lets you manipulate digital audio waveforms. In addition to letting you record sounds directly from within the program, it imports many sound file formats, including WAV, AIFF, MP3 and Ogg/Vorbis. It supports all common editing operations such as Cut, Copy, and Paste, plus it will mix tracks and let you apply plug-in effects to any part of a sound. It also has a built-in amplitude envelope editor, a customizable spectrogram mode and a frequency analysis window for audio analysis applications. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files
lorne wrote: On Monday 08 September 2003 08:03 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: lorne wrote: I know that previous version of Mandrake did have an editor. Darned if I can find one now. I have some wave and mp3 files I want to burn to CDrom and some of them have a VERY annoying screech at the beginning I want to clip off. you'd think this easy to find... am I just having a brain fart? I don't have much experience with this but you might want to take a look at hackaudacity in 9.1/contrib/. There was some bug in audacity that made hackaudacity a better choice, at the time I looked at it. Here is the qip: Audacity is a program that lets you manipulate digital audio waveforms. In addition to letting you record sounds directly from within the program, it imports many sound file formats, including WAV, AIFF, MP3 and Ogg/Vorbis. It supports all common editing operations such as Cut, Copy, and Paste, plus it will mix tracks and let you apply plug-in effects to any part of a sound. It also has a built-in amplitude envelope editor, a customizable spectrogram mode and a frequency analysis window for audio analysis applications. Rolf hey Rolf, The ONLY place I'm seeing that file is in mandrakes contrib? Is that true, or is there another site you know where it is? My guess is that I'm going to have the same problem with any. Audacity and another one (I forget the name right now) are having trouble with sound. The preferences pull down shows no devices at all and no way to add one that I can see. Since I run sound constantly I know I'm having now problems with it. I'm a little perplexed. about what could be wrong. I am not sure if you installed audacity or hackaudacity. They are both in contrib/: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2]$ urpmq --sources audacity file://back/contrib/audacity-1.0.0-3mdk.i586.rpm [EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2]$ urpmq --sources hackaudacity file://back/contrib/hackaudacity-1.1.0-4mdk.i586.rpm If you are having trouble with audacity, you might urpme that and urpmi hackaudacity, or vice versa. I think I tried audacity first, which didn't work for me, then, since, like I said, I had read about a bug in audacity, I tried hackaudacity, which got rolling and let me play with some editing. I didn't use it extensively, however, and don't remember what version I was using. Try hackaudacity. The two packages have conflicting files, so uninstall audacity first. Sorry I don't know more than that about it. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday September 3 2003 05:39 am, Charlie wrote: I have done this with a winblows program and still have some disks like this, up to 1.72mb which was very handy at times. I don't know how to achieve this with Mandrake, though have to admit that I have never looked into it either I seem to just write to CD now. In the old days [about 18 months ago] of 8mb RAM and 830mb hard drive it all went onto floppy. fdutils, includes among other utilities, superformat. But it's only for formatting DOS file system floppy's. Won't work for an ext2 boot floppy. It will format a DOS floppy up to 1992k, but anything over 1600k an the floppy will become increasingly unstable. The problem with boot floppy's for past year are so is the ever increasing size of the kernel and initrd images. It's also one of the main reasons that the 'rescue' option was added to the 1st and 2nd install CD's. So who needs a boot floppy anyhow? ;) I looked into fdutils and experimented with floppymeter, superformat. Backing down from the man page example to superformat /dev/fd0 sect=20 cyl=81 formatted a disk in not too much time (running the command twice, as the first run errors out) and mkbootdisk completed without error. However, after about 10 minutes of loading the initrd and kernel images, boot failed with no setup signature found. The disk read garbage characters in the shell and kde but that might not be unusual for a superformatted floppy. Using isolinux from the syslinux package, eventually, produced a bootdisk-on-cd. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] imlib
resending; please unset the reply-to in your mail program: replies should go to the list. Colin Jenkins wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to install gwx,(a weather station simulator) when I do ./configure IO get the following: checking for GTK - version = 1.2.0... yes checking for wx200open in -lwx200... yes checking for gdk_imlib_init in -lgdk_imlib... no configure: error: Cannot find gdk_imlib: is imlib installed? any ideas? The output of urpmf will often solve this type of missing library/capability/dependency problem: $ urpmf gdk_imlib libimlib1:/usr/lib/libgdk_imlib.so.1 libimlib1:/usr/lib/libgdk_imlib.so.1.9.14 libimlib1-devel:/usr/include/gdk_imlib.h libimlib1-devel:/usr/include/gdk_imlib_private.h libimlib1-devel:/usr/include/gdk_imlib_types.h libimlib1-devel:/usr/lib/libgdk_imlib.a libimlib1-devel:/usr/lib/libgdk_imlib.la libimlib1-devel:/usr/lib/libgdk_imlib.so ruby-gtk:/usr/lib/ruby/1.6/gdk_imlib.rb ruby-gtk:/usr/lib/ruby/1.6/i586-linux-gnu/gdk_imlib.so I would try to install the devel package with urpmi libimlib1-devel Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] User shutdown
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 9:27 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Remind me where to find the setting that allows users to shut down? I've found it in kde's control centre, where I have it set to allow everybody to shutdown, but still all I'm getting is a small square offering logout or cancel. Logging out drops to a text shell. I want to be offering full shutdown, preferably with the green dragon screen. IIRC this has something to do with changing from Mandrake's version of something to kde's, but what? Anne What I do to get the green dragon is disable autologin in drakboot and enable it in kcontrol System Login Manager. This works for me in mdkkdm. Here is a link to a link to Alan Shoemaker's advice related to this: http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-02/msg09582.php Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: How many people here can successfully create a boot disk under 9.1 or 9.2 using mkbootdisk and a 1.4 meg floppy? LX Problems, here. I usually fdformat /dev/fd0 as normal user but, in 9.2 rc1, it seems I have to umount /mnt/floppy, as root, first. Kernel-2.4.22-1mdk. In 9.1, kernel-2.4.21-0.18mm-mdk, the fdformat works w/o needing to umount. In both, mkbootdisk (uname -r) gives an error: cp: writing `/tmp/mkbootdisk/initrd.img': No space left on device Error ! The disk shows something like: $ ll /mnt/floppy total 1424 -rwxrwxrwx1 rolf rolf 151552 Sep 1 21:14 initrd.img* -r-xr-xr-x1 rolf rolf 7060 Sep 1 21:14 ldlinux.sys* -rwxrwxrwx1 rolf rolf 1298632 Apr 6 15:48 vmlinuz* Booting from either of these disks starts out with: Could not find kernel image: linux boot: I can give vmlinuz to the boot: prompt and it loads until: Kernel panic:VFS:unable to mount root fs on 08:05 Guessing because my filesystem is reiserfs and the initrd is not correctly made. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] something interesting about 9.2RC1
Mark wrote: Hi list, I've been playing with 9,2RC1 since yesterday when I installed it, and I've noticed there are a few things missing. One of which I used a lot of and that was Konsole. I was wondering if there was a specific reason that didn't make it into the install. I've also noticed that MC, the console FileManager didn't get installed. wussup? Konsole has been split to kdebase-konsole; urpmi kdebase-konsole. There has been some clamor to have this installed by default, which I agree is a good idea. https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4992 ISTR needing to install mc when I needed it, even after choosing Console Tools and Configuration for some time now. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi lccked
David E. Fox wrote: This just in 9.2 rc1 cooker... the software manager seems to be broken, and I can't add any sources - was trying to revamp the sources to include the new CDs as opposed to the old ones. Software Manager quietly dies after I tell it where to go for the CD. Also I tried to add in cooker main and contrib and can't get anywyere... so I just removed /etc/urpmi and /var/lib/rurpmi etc. Now the whole urpmi subsystem is hosed. I just want to rebuild it from scratch, include main/contrib/plf as well as the local cd sources list but can't do any- thing now as it just says the thing is locked help There is a problem with the gui frontend to urpmi.addmedia that is fixed in an upcoming drakxtools: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5083 Adding from the command line works. You might try re-adding the CD sources with: urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://mnt/cdrom/ with the mount point adjusted to show your reader and CD1 loaded. I would do urpmi.removemedia -a first to try to clean the slate. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi lccked
dfox wrote: Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] urpmi lccked There is a problem with the gui frontend to urpmi.addmedia that is fixed in an upcoming drakxtools: I see the problem, and the proposed fix. The issue now is a catch-22 one. I can't add any sources, so I can't get the new patch to drakxtools to add sources. See the problem? As I said, the problem with the gui does not (for me) preclude using the command line urpmi.addmedia. It might help to replace the files you deleted with a reinstall of the package that owns them, if the urpmi.addmedia command doesn't generate them. I attempted to do as you suggest but All that accomplishes is that it copies the names of the hdlists files over into /var/cache/urpmi/partial and then fails with a 'urpmi database locked' --- how is it possible to unlock it? am i toast? rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db* ? Did you urpmi.removemedia -a ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] XFS mount problems
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 23:15, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Hello all, Can anyone help me diagnose why my previously working (reiserfs), now formatted with XFS, hard drives will no longer mount? I did the transition from reiserfs to XFS in diskdrake. It asked, and I allowed it, to write to my fstab file. As far as I can tell it wrote it Your fstab file does not matter at all in this context, which is to achieve a basic mount of the drives. The only reason an fstab file exists is so that parameters can be passed to mount by a script and approved by root. The main concern right now is, have your drives been corrupted. If mount cannot do a manual operation, then that means it's not seeing what it is supposed to be seeing when you make the attempt. Don't want to worry you but this isn't good. It's still probably something simple, though. To verify that this is or is not the case the next thing is you need to do is comment out everything pertaining to the partitions in question in fstab and start mount attempts manually, because at this point fstab is redundant and is only going to get in your way; at least until you achieve a successful manual mount. After you get rid or disable the relevant entries in fstab, again attempt to mount them xfs. If they won't mount xfs, then boot your 9.1 cdrom and go into rescue mode. NOW attempt to mount xfs. If it still won't go then try to mount them reiser. If that doesn't work... Well, give that a shot and we'll go from there. LX With the fstab entries commented out. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# mount -t xfs /dev/hdg1 /drive2 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdg1, or too many mounted file systems This is also what I see at boot. What could have happened to both of the drives to corrupt them, if that is the case? They were working like a dream before the shutdown. Could it be a kernel module problem? XFS is compiled as a module. Wouldn't that have kept it from working at all (even before the reboot) if that were the case? More than once, when changing the filesystem type in diskdrake, I have had the experience of the format not being recognized after a reboot. For instance, the filesystem might come up looking like Linux Native in diskdrake or fdisk and doing mkreiserfs manually (and another reboot) does the trick. Do you see the partitions as xfs in diskdrake? Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PC shutdown
(resend, after 8 hrs. and not seeing the original) (three's a charm? ~11 hrs. now) Toshiro wrote: I know this has been asked a thousand of times :) but I'd like to know what should I do to make my pc power off properly; I've tried with acpi=off and apm=off in lilo.conf, but it doesn't work. The worst part is that this machine do shut down ok in windog :(, so I guess the problem is not hardware related. Anybody got any idea? Toshiro. PS: BTW, the motherboard is a DFI AD75 (Athlon 2100+) and I'm running MDK 9.1 I have read of boot parameters that work for some. Search google groups on 'apm power off boot', for instance, where I found a statement to use apm=on apm=power-off. At times, I have solved power off problems by recompiling the kernel, changing only CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF to Yes. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PC shutdown
(resend, after 8 hrs. and not seeing the original) Toshiro wrote: I know this has been asked a thousand of times :) but I'd like to know what should I do to make my pc power off properly; I've tried with acpi=off and apm=off in lilo.conf, but it doesn't work. The worst part is that this machine do shut down ok in windog :(, so I guess the problem is not hardware related. Anybody got any idea? Toshiro. PS: BTW, the motherboard is a DFI AD75 (Athlon 2100+) and I'm running MDK 9.1 I have read of boot parameters that work for some. Search google groups on 'apm power off boot', for instance, where I found a statement to use apm=on apm=power-off. At times, I have solved power off problems by recompiling the kernel, changing only CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF to Yes. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 5:32 pm, ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 08:26, Anne Wilson wrote: I don't think it's a heat problem. Besides, if it were so, just logging out wouldn't clear it, I think. Anne I donna know, but I think we have pretty much the same sound card (SB-Audigy), and i don't have no such trouble, and my X windows is up 24/7 going on 4 weeks now. Let's compare the settings i have in the KDE control center for system sounds. under aRTs tab, I have (only) checked , Start aRTs at KDE startup, run sound server with real time priority, and, display messages using artsmessage I have the same + autosuspend if idle for 60 seconds On the autosuspend, a long time ago, I found a situation where a sound app would not start because the 60 sec time out had not expired (for a finished system notification sound, for example). Setting this to one second made the delay that much shorter, so I have changed that setting ever since. I am thinking that apps that are 'arts-unaware' might benefit from this change but not sure exactly what is doing what. FWIW. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Software to record DVD-R/RW?
Helge Hielscher wrote: Am Sun, 17 Aug 2003 12:59:32 -0400 schrieb Byron Poland: You need to install cdrecord-dvdhack this is what Mandrake has in it's distribution for burning dvd's. Where can I get the RPM? I couldnt find it in http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com Regards, Helge I am seeing it in 9.1 updates and at Texstar's (www.pclinuxonline.com) repository: $ urpmq --sources cdrecord-dvdhack ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms/cdrecord-dvdhack-2.0-2.2mdk.i586.rpm ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.1/RPMS/cdrecord-dvdhack-2.0-2.2mdk.i586.rpm Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] resolv.conf
Bryan Phinney wrote: I am having problems getting SA to do the rbl checks. It appears that my /etc/resolv.conf file keeps getting built with 127.0.0.1 as the first name server. Other network utilities appear to be able to bypass this and try each nameserver before giving up but the Net::DNS perl module is not that smart. It tries the first nameserver, gets a SERVFAIL from localhost and then gives up. I have edited the offending file to move localhost back down but everytime I start the network, it rewrites resolv.conf and adds loopback as the first nameserver. Does anyone know where this behavior is coming from and how I can remove it. I have checked several other boxes with Mandrake 9.1 and none of them appears to even be getting the loopback address in the resolv.conf file but I am not sure how it is happening on this one box so I don't know how to repair it. Look also at /etc/ppp/resolv.conf and /etc/ppp/options. I don't know if this relates but, when I installed djbdns, I wrote to these files, commenting usepeerdns in /etc/ppp/options. That seemed to stop the overwriting of resolv.conf for me but not sure if it applies to your situation. It seems one used to be able to write resolv.conf and have it stick ;p Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Installed cable -- now host = HWaddr of NIC
Rolf Pedersen wrote:
Just for reference, I have hooked the adsl modem, which uses dhcp also,
back up, there is no problem with an altered $HOSTNAME and kprinter
works immediately when asked to. I did not even re-run drakconnect or
change any files. Seems to be how the cable modem/comcast dhcp works.
In /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases, the stored lease info from
comcast includes:
option host-name x1-6-00-03-47-95-32-57;
option domain-name comcast.net;
There are no corresponding options for the adsl lease. Google groups
has quite a few threads about this cable phenomenon, as a search on
'$hostname + $dhcp_hostname' has shown. Maybe Comcast support has an
answer. Maybe another wild goose ;p
Thanks to Narfi Stefansson, I am now enjoying better behavior from my
cable account.
Apparently, certain dhcp servers, such as Comcast's, issue a host name
that does not resolve to the ip that is issued, or anything, for that
matter. This causes lags when programs try to resolve the host name,
which I noticed. This invalid host name is evidenced in the snippet of
the lease I quoted above and is incorporated into my machine by
Mandrake's network scripts (AFAICT). There is a bug report for this
here: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4227
Narfi has written a script, which he helped me install as
/sbin/ifup-local, which is invoked by Mandrake scripts each time the
interface is brought up. This script ensures that hostname resolves to
the ip issued by the dhcp server. As it turns out, I use guarddog and
guarddog links /sbin/ifup-local to /etc/rc.firewall, where the iptables
rules appear to be written (I know nothing about networking). So, we
mved that link to back it up and Narfi added one line to the end of his
script to ensure that /etc/rc.firewall continues to be read when it should:
#!/bin/bash
outfile=/tmp/report.txt
echo ifup-local has been invoked $outfile
dhcpfile=/var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases
ip=`grep fixed-address ${dhcpfile} | tail -1 | sed 's/[^0-9.]*//g'`
address=`host $ip 2/dev/null| grep domain name| sed 's/.* // ;s/.$//'`
echo IP is ${ip} $outfile
echo Address is ${address} $outfile
echo Current hostname is `hostname` $outfile
hostname ${address} $outfile
echo Corrected hostname is `hostname` $outfile
/etc/rc.firewall $*
This has solved the lagginess I was seeing when loading the desktop,
starting konsole, etc. BTW, I booted connected to my dsl modem and the
unproblematic, familiar behavior of that account (with no hostname
option given by the dhcp lease) was unchanged by the script.
The problem with printing turned out to be a separate consequence of my
switch to the cable account. An strace of kprinter turned up a
reference to 172.16.1.10 just as it stalled, which was an ip from my dsl
account, and grep -r 172.16.1.10 /etc revealed an occurrence at the
bottom of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf:
ServerName 172.16.1.10
That explains why there wasn't a problem when I was hooked up to the
adsl account. Commenting that line restored printing to its usual,
snappy self. Thanks, again, to Narfi for helping me ferret that one out
and thanks to all who responded.
Rolf
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Re: [expert] Installed cable -- now host = HWaddr of NIC
Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2003 10:02 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2003 02:19 pm, Dave Sherman wrote: You *might* be able to edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and make sure there is in entry that looks like: NEEDHOSTNAME=no You would also need to edit /etc/sysconfig/network, and set the following entry (if it's not already there): HOSTNAME=localhost This is the solution and was the first response to your post. SOmehow I think you missed it. $ cat /etc/sysconfig/network NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME=localhost I did do this, maybe you didn't get the mail that stated that. Thanks. It is the NEEDHOSTAME=no that is important. It prevents the machine from I had set this in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0, as I had implemented all the suggestions in this thread. setting the hostname to the one acquired in the dhcp process. I can't double check my machine because I am using a router for my cable modem and use static addressing behind it. I have previously solved the problem by running drakconnect in expert mode, making sure the need host name box is unchecked, and don't make any entries in the zeroconf or tmdnsboxes. Ran drakconnect in expert mode, several times. Left default dhcp-client checked. DHCP host name is filled in from previous usage/configuration, no doubt. Tried removing that but made no difference. Network hotplugging is default; tried it this way and with this unselected. 'Assign host name from DHCP address' left unselected. 'Zeroconf Host name' is default 'localhost'. Tried leaving this and blanking this. 'Host name' is default 'localhost'. HTTP and FTP proxies left blank. Reboot after each configuration. Prompt comes up as DHCP host name. Putting hostname localhost in rc.local has the desired effect plus the side effect of disabling autologin. Actually, the desired effect is to get this working without rc.local but I don't know how stubborn I will be ;p Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Installed cable -- now host = HWaddr of NIC
Jim C wrote: Thought of using the hostname command in a script executed at startup? That was one of my first thoughts and it does the trick in rc.local, with the side-effect of disabling auto-login. I just thought there should be a less-kludgy way of dealing with it. Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Installed cable -- now host = HWaddr of NIC
Rolf Pedersen wrote: Jim C wrote: Thought of using the hostname command in a script executed at startup? That was one of my first thoughts and it does the trick in rc.local, with the side-effect of disabling auto-login. I just thought there should be a less-kludgy way of dealing with it. Thanks. I am now finding that usage of kprinter is affected. Invoking print from a kde app opens the kprinter dialog but selecting a button causes a pause for 3 or 4 minutes before the selection is executed. Same when calling kprinter from the prompt: the dialog opens quickly but any selection takes a long time to commence. bleh. lpr commands or printing from OpenOffice.org seem not affected. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
