Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-11-01 Thread Buchan Milne
Then again, why run VMWare for Office when it runs under wine ? Larry Marshall wrote: i got the idea but it only anoys me because i am trying to save room on my hard drive and if you use a mock install of booting of the cd into empty space or my ram then the problem is i have to install

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-11-01 Thread Ken Thompson
On Wed, 01 Nov 2000, you wrote: Then again, why run VMWare for Office when it runs under wine ? Larry Marshall wrote: I have had no success in trying to run office 2000 under wine, any tips that may help? I do have Visual Basic operational to about 99% under Wine release 20001002. -- Ken

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-11-01 Thread Larry Marshall
Then again, why run VMWare for Office when it runs under wine ? Larry Marshall wrote: I have had no success in trying to run office 2000 under wine, any tips that may help? I do have Visual Basic operational to about 99% under Wine release 20001002. -- Ken Thompson Electrocom

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-31 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach Larry Marshall am Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 09:36:17PM -0500: that if you do use the emulation you only need enough disk space to hold the apps you're going to run under Windows and a minimal Windows Right, and what's more important at least for me, is that you don't need to shutdown

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-31 Thread Larry Marshall
Right, and what's more important at least for me, is that you don't need to shutdown Linux... Absolutely. This is the number one reason I'm spending time with it. have multiple installations of Windows running at the same time, heck, even Windows NT + Windows 9x + BeOS + ... all at the

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Ken Thompson wrote: On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, you wrote: VMware is virtual machine. It is not same your real computer. You must Uh huhI'm with you so far. configure this virtual machine how you want and install on it Win98 or any other OS. You can start two or more VM with

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-31 Thread Stephen Bosch
Larry Marshall wrote: Yep...I don't think conventional machinery need apply. I haven't tweeked VMware yet but with only 64megs assigned to it on a 500mhz machine, it's pretty clunky in terms of performance. Still might do what I need to run a word processor though :-) Just talking out

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-31 Thread Larry Marshall
Here's a solution: don't use VMWare at all. Great idea. Just get StarOffice and mount your Windows partition in Linux, then you never even have to bother with the Microsoft products and you don't need to move your files Another good one...if my needs were the same as yours. I'd agree

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-31 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 11:37:04AM -0500, Larry Marshall wrote: Here's a solution: don't use VMWare at all. Great idea. Just get StarOffice and mount your Windows partition in Linux, then you never even have to bother with the Microsoft products and you don't need to move your

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-31 Thread Larry Marshall
First, Word format is flakey, and varies even from versions of Word with Uh huh...sure. the same version number. If you can get your correspondents to export documents as RTF, you may have better luck. Similarly when they re-import your files they will have better luck if you ship as RTF.

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-30 Thread BillK
Larry, something that while it might not help a lot, at least will provide a reason for whats happened. Unix/Linux is a different way of thinking to MS. It depends a lot on "knowing" where to go for documentation (i.e., standard places on the system) and be able to go from there. MS does a lot

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-30 Thread Alfredo Carlos López
Hi! I was reading this thread and I want to comment what happens to me. I have win98 installed in /dev/hda1 and linux somewhere else (suppose /dev/hda5 or something like that) If I configured vmware to boot from /dev/hda1 it gives an error... but if I configure to boot from /dev/hda., vmware

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-30 Thread Larry Marshall
Larry, something that while it might not help a lot, at least will provide a reason for whats happened. Unix/Linux is a different way of thinking to MS. It depends a lot on "knowing" where to go for Yes...and that's fine. And as long as the Linux world doesn't want to dominate the

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-30 Thread Matthew Micene
On Sunday 29 October 2000 19:58, you wrote: grin...inside a box? I can certainly understand that VMware might want to diddle with its own copy of W'98 that's not installed in standard fashion. From Bill's comment it seems I've missed a chunk of documentation. Ok, just to weigh in on this,

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-30 Thread Andrew George
While I'm very aware of what a virtual machine is what has been unclear to me was how to set it up. There's absolutely no reason I can see why VMware couldn't grab the OS from a partition with Windows installed on it. They just prefer to hold it in a file instead. Yep by default the VM

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-30 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake Larry Marshall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [...] This, however, is beyond my comprehension. The only way I could stick W98 into a "boot device" is if that boot device is a CDROM. Since VMware is booted off the hard drive where it's installed itself and configured itself, you have lost

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-30 Thread Mwinold
In a message dated 30-Oct-00 14:31:44 Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: VMWare provides a *complete* virtual environment, including its own BIOS. So yes, you can configure its boot device to be the CDROM. i got the idea but it only anoys me because i am trying to save room

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-30 Thread Michael R. Batchelor
i got the idea but it only anoys me because i am trying to save room on my hard drive [...] then the problem is i have to install windows every time i want to use a windows app No, you can make vmware use your existing windows install, but you've got to do it right. First boot into windows and

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-30 Thread Larry Marshall
i got the idea but it only anoys me because i am trying to save room on my hard drive and if you use a mock install of booting of the cd into empty space or my ram then the problem is i have to install windows every time i want to use a windows app and with only a 6gb hard drive i would

[expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Larry Marshall
I've just downloaded/registered VMware under their 30 day trial. I've gone through the configuration and it seemed happy. I set up Windows 98 as the guest OS (I'm doing this on a dual-boot machine where Windows is on /dev/hda1) and this generated a /vmware/win98 directory that holds what

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread BillK
Larry Marshall wrote: Have you installed win98 INSIDE vmware? Sounds like you are trying to use an existing install of win98 which I dont think vmware will do - you need to go the full fdisk/format/install route within the vmware virtual machine - read the docs, they are quite good. Quite

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): In a message dated 29-Oct-00 15:49:22 Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: VMware is virtual machine. It is not same your real computer. You must configure this virtual machine how you want and install on it Win98 or any

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Larry Marshall
Have you installed win98 INSIDE vmware? Sounds like you are trying to use an existing install of win98 which I dont think vmware will do - you No, which seemed odd since they have you set up a virtual disk. need to go the full fdisk/format/install route within the vmware virtual machine -

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Larry Marshall
VMWare provides a virtual machine 'inside a box' that has a standard set of virtual hardware (video, network, etc). Even if it could find your existing W98 install, the chances of your install using the same hardware that VMWare provides virutally are very small. grin...inside a box? I can

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Andrew George
You need to install W98 inside VMWare. Use the configuration wizard to configure a VM and then boot the VM with an installation medium (e.g. CD) of W98 in the boot device. This, however, is beyond my comprehension. The only way I could stick W98 into a "boot device" is if that boot

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Larry Marshall
umm...the VMware machine is a full Virtual Machine...with it's own bios..when you start the machine you may notice a nice little message saying "Press f2 for setup" thats like a normal setup bios...just change it to boot of the CD and feed your win98 cd into your cd-rom Just tried this

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Ken Thompson
On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, you wrote: VMware is virtual machine. It is not same your real computer. You must Uh huhI'm with you so far. configure this virtual machine how you want and install on it Win98 or any other OS. You can start two or more VM with different OS together and

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Larry Marshall
Pretend that there is NO Win 98 on your machine now. Install Win98 IN VM Ware.. Virtual Machine is just that, a make-believe computer.. The software tricks your system into thinking there is another computer in there with it.. While I'm very aware of what a virtual machine is what has been

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread stephen
On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 05:01:04PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 29-Oct-00 15:49:22 Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: VMware is virtual machine. It is not same your real computer. You must configure this virtual machine how you want and install on

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Nikolay V. Kursov
I've just downloaded/registered VMware under their 30 day trial. I've gone through the configuration and it seemed happy. I set up Windows 98 as the guest OS (I'm doing this on a dual-boot machine where Windows is on /dev/hda1) and this generated a /vmware/win98 directory that holds

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Larry Marshall
VMware is virtual machine. It is not same your real computer. You must configure this virtual machine how you want and install on it Win98 or any other OS. You can start two or more VM with different OS together and they will work as real computers in local network. somehow

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Larry Marshall
somehow this just confused me even more how about you larry? Not sure why as I didn't write what you quoted :-) Mike...ignore this. I misread it and thought you were saying I confused you...which is normally the case when I write something :-) I really get a chuckle out of a lot of the

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Mwinold
In a message dated 29-Oct-00 15:49:22 Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: VMware is virtual machine. It is not same your real computer. You must configure this virtual machine how you want and install on it Win98 or any other OS. You can start two or more VM with different OS

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Nikolay V. Kursov
How would you respond to someone who answers "How do you set up VM so it can load the OS?" with "You have to configure it."? Inquiring minds wanna know and I'm at a loss. Cheers --- Larry Ok. Sorry. To boot installed OS you need select "Existing physical disk" in "Disk Type

Re: [expert] VMware finding Win98

2000-10-29 Thread Larry Marshall
VMware is virtual machine. It is not same your real computer. You must Uh huhI'm with you so far. configure this virtual machine how you want and install on it Win98 or any other OS. You can start two or more VM with different OS together and they will work as real computers in local