Classic article from Cracked.com that sorta explains the whole TM
movement in a nutshell, followed by an illustration of the same
phenomenon in India:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18821_5-examples-americans-thinking-forei\
gn-people-are-magic.html
Oh Turk you have made me come out of my lurk mode - OMG what cute white girls
!!!
On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:32 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Classic article from Cracked.com that sorta explains the whole TM movement in
a nutshell, followed by an illustration of the same
What you posit here is the skeptic PoV . That is okay if you want to stay
there. Last week I got a tour of the Fermilab collider from a friend who is a
career physicist there at the facility. They'll use circumstance that will
suggest or describe something and they are able to then look
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
Its kind of paradoxical, and fucked up and sad too, that Buddha was such a
great figure - Even looking at his form, enlivens our dignity and inner peace
- yet, somehow his truth has become lost, other than that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
wrote:
As to the various flavours of those who believe in various
interpretations of reality, I recall reading a comment on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
What you posit here is the skeptic PoV . That is okay if you want to stay
there. Last week I got a tour of the Fermilab collider from a friend who is a
career physicist there at the facility. They'll use circumstance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:
As to the various flavours of those who believe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
Most of us are well aware that Maharishi in his
later days didn't live up to what he was like in the
glory days of the TMO.
Now, now, wait Judy, what happened? That's a new tone from you. Could you
elaborate? You are not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
All MMY claimed about TM mantras was:
1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if there are any, in
his mind);
2) he deemed them to be suitable for householders;
Since TM mantras are for householders, are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:
All I know is this:
I am not a meditator by nature. I like to do things, run around, play, get
dirty, eat, be competitive at sports, read. The list goes on. What I believe
MMY was brilliant at was to appeal to others like
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
All I know is this:
I am not a meditator by nature. I like to do things, run around, play, get
dirty, eat, be competitive at sports, read. The list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
All MMY claimed about TM mantras was:
1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if
there are any, in his mind);
2) he deemed them to be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
I have no idea if floating due to the Yogic Flying (or any other mental
technique) is possible, but you should understand that law of nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
All MMY claimed about TM mantras was:
1) they are not om or some other
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
I think a little balance is in order, and hope to
provide some from time to time. If my doing so
occasionally causes people to act like the cultists
they are and go all reactive and paranoid and nasty
trying to demonize
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@... wrote:
You have been hitting some of these atheist posts out of the park man.
Still the best comments on the believer/atheist thang:
[http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/92350_whatgodlookslikeboth.jpg]
I'm still trying to understand how someone 67 or 68 could call 38 yr old
Russell Brand old as f**k. Only turq didn't use asterisks (-:
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 6:26 AM
Hi navashok, I appreciate the points you make to Ann. Even when I was growing
up, I played sports and was into Catholicism. And both these proclivities,
love of activity and love of spirituality have continued throughout my life.
That is, the BOTH are natural to me. To paraphrase Xeno, at
Thanks Judy! great quotes - I particularly like the first one, about expanding
our notions of what human beings are capable of.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
Well, as cool as flying
Easy - Turq is no longer, old as f*ck. He has advanced to his next step,
rotting.:-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
I'm still trying to understand how someone 67 or 68 could call 38 yr old
Russell Brand old as f**k. Only turq didn't use asterisks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Steve, with all the TM cheerleading going down,
I just thought it would be useful for someone to
interject a little reality about the person so many
are trying to portray as so saintly and enlightened.
People KNOW how he
With old age comes inflexibility and the loss of mental agility which is more
than evident in your posts
Actually, I think you must *work* on closing your mind, to have that occur as
you age. Both my father in law at 86, and my dear departed father, at 89, have
and had far more flexible and
I think one flaw in your argument, Michael, is that you are choosing to
seperate out a group of individual with whom you have had negative
experiences, or negative perceptions and basing your conclusions based
on that group.
I know many long term practicioners who display a completely different
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
More to the point, if TM practitioners committed to
Maharishi's Purusha or Mother Divine programs, and
thus chose to effectively becomes monks or recluses,
were they re-initiated using a more appropriate
recluse mantra?
I
LOL Yeah I don't recall ever seeing the questionnaire, either. Funny how
atheists always let you know that they are, too, as if rank ignorance is now a
badge of pride.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
My point is that a lot of these discussions are, from
my point of view, falling prey to one of the most
chronic TM fallacies. People repeat stuff they
Ha ha ha! And I am drawn to the Indian ladies!!! (its true)
From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Wannabee Hindus,
a key that opens the Universe!?!?!?! Buck, show me the sidhas and governors who
are making the Universe accede to their whims and I will come back to the Domes
From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6,
LOS ANGELES —
Pioneering meditation teacher Nancy Cooke de Herrera has died. She was 90.
Maria Luisa de Herrera says her mother died Feb. 28.
Madonna, Sheryl Crow, Judd Apatow and Paula Abdul were among the students who
learned Transcendental Meditation techniques at de Herrera's home in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
(snip)
Steve, with all the TM cheerleading going down,
I just thought it would be useful for someone to
interject a little reality about the person so
Hahaha, I love Ravi! You find you one, dear! Beautiful one liner.
Michael Jackson's line too. hahaha.
This must explain the hormonal fixation with rap or hip hop music and country
white boys and girls and the crossover dreams of reality, and the rest of the
family says... WTF?
Got a bit of
Really? I had not heard of Marshy giving out ram as the original TM mantra
before - that is interesting.
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 6:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question
Thanks Buck - I enjoyed your post. Yep, it is a big world out there/in here,
and getting bigger all the time!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
What you posit here is the skeptic PoV . That is okay if you want to stay
there. Last week I got a tour of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
My point is that a lot of these discussions are, from
my point of view, falling prey
Speaking of nursing homes, the thing most counter-intuitive about my
experience, was that it was the younger ones who were senile. Those who had
lived their lives in denial of whatever, until Grace gives them what they have
wished for, a loss of time, space, and memory of this world. Mental
The only people I see repeating what they were TOLD are you and MJ, repeating
over and over again, what you TELL yourselves. The thing you haven't recognized
about TM, *since you don't do it*, is that the practice keeps you moving.
TM is not the static believerism you make it out to be. You
I base my statements not only on my personal experiences but on the collective
experiences of many many TM meditators who have had similar experiences with
long term TM'ers who work for the Movement - how anyone can continue to praise
TM while seeing and experiencing the behavior of the TMO
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
All MMY
how anyone can continue to praise TM while seeing and experiencing the
behavior of the TMO people is beyond me.
That is like saying, after visiting the Ford Motor Company and talking to that
jerky CEO, I don't see how anyone can like their cars. I think what you meant
to say was that you
I agree with just about everything you say here, except that Marshy had no guru
competition, there were a bunch of 'em
(http://www.pluralism.org/ocg/CDROM_files/hinduism/rush_of_gurus.php)
What they didn't have that Marshy DID have was the tremendous flood of free
publicity he received from
A poignant example of this, related to me by at least
half a different spiritual teachers from traditions
other than TM...
*How* many??
snip
you are an idiot - I did TM for 20 years, twice a day, every day - it took me
that long to realize it wasn't the only game in town - stupid me.
From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
the hell they aren't - the energy that Marshy created the Movement has ALWAYS
shown itself in the behavior it leaders have exhibited - no free passes on
the basis of Oh, the technique is gd! but the people who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
Hi navashok, I appreciate the points you make to Ann. Even when I was
growing up, I played sports and was into Catholicism. And both these
proclivities, love of activity and love of spirituality have continued
Doc, I was having a very similar thought in the Dome this morning: that people
who stopped doing TM and TMSP long ago have no idea, even more importantly, no
experience of what the long term effects are. And they can be very difficult
to describe. AND I'm guessing that it has something to do
When I saw this posted by a friend, my first question
when I read the title of the page was, What's a b-girl?
Then I watched the video and now I don't have to ask.
Raunchy, you've just got to show this to your grand-
daughter the gymnist. She could learn some moves from
this dancer.
Oh, she's
I agree, seekliberation: nobody owes us anything. Least of all a spiritual
teacher or a spiritual path. Meaning IMO that a spiritual teacher doesn't owe
it to us to be any certain way that makes us feel comfy. Paraphrasing
Adyashanti who says that humans have 2 impulses, one for comfort and
Yes, I see how you and others can see that I am saying and it may not seem
logical, but that is not exactly what I am saying. What I am saying is that IF
TM is as superlative as it is advertised to be, that IF it repeatedly clears
the nervous system, mind and emotions of stress, and infuses the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
Most of us are well aware that Maharishi in his
later days didn't live up to what he was like in the
glory days of the TMO.
Now, now, wait Judy, what
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
Doc, I was having a very similar thought in the Dome this morning:Â that
people who stopped doing TM and TMSP long ago have no idea, even more
importantly, no experience of what the long term effects are.
Not so
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@...
wrote:
Hi navashok, I appreciate the points you make to Ann. Even when I
was growing up, I played sports and was into Catholicism. And both
these proclivities, love of activity and love of spirituality have
continued
Thank you, Navashok!
You post has actually answered my questions about mantras. In my opinion, the
fact that there is no sort of checking for sidhis means the idea that the
meaningless sound theory of the mantras is nonsense and that as you said the
entire checking procedure is a form of
Right, I think Michael mentioned 20 years. But I'm referring to people I know
who have generally been at it for over 35 years. From my own experience and
the experience of my long term friends, those years of practice add up
exponentially. In other words, there's a noticeable difference in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
But you gotta wonder why the behavior of arrogance, elitism, entitlement,
mis-use of others, incompetence and more is so prevalent among long time TM
leaders and managers.
Well they sacked you didn't they. That shows
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
you are an idiot -
And you're our FFL bully. What will happen to you is the same as what happens
to all bullies in time, the are left empty-handed.
Dear Micheal, it could be a lot helpful to a lot of people and even the world
if you should bring this up within dialogue with bevan and the president's
office directly. In the Dome recently there was a poster communicating that
Bevan should like to hear from our people and gave his e-mail
There ABSOLUTELY is a checking for TMSP. I know of people who have had it.
Does that change your idea that the mantra theory is nonsense?
Speaking as someone who has done therapy and energy work over the years,
including EFT tapping, I would say this: TM is necessary for emotional and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
Easy - Turq is no longer, old as f*ck. He has advanced to his next step,
rotting.:-)
That's right, his posts do have a certain odour :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
yeah, because I had allergies - real class act, that!
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 11:26 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi
--- In
I guess it escapes your notice that you assert your POV as the only
*valid* POV, seemingly ignoring that others may have had different
experiences and come to different conclusions.
I mean your fist sentence makes sense. - that is, *your* personal
experience. But then you proceed to, what has
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
With old age comes inflexibility and the loss of mental agility which is
more than evident in your posts
Actually, I think you must *work* on closing your mind, to have that occur as
you age. Both my father in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Dear Micheal,
snip..
You seem quite reasonable in your way.
There hasn't been a less reasonable and more bitter soul here since Vaj graced
us with his presence.
That's quite an insight regarding 'tricking our ego'. I remember Das Goravani
explaining the importance of ego, despite its contradiction to spirituality.
If you are a young soul, undeveloped and inexperienced, it is much better to
have an enormous ego. It is your ego that impels you to
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:32 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Michael
There ABSOLUTELY is a checking for
On 03/06/2013 05:50 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
My point is that a lot of these discussions are, from
My undergraduate degree is in philosophy but I can't seem to grasp the concept
of FALSIFIABILITY, and why it is important. Can anyone explain it to me in some
way different than, say, what Wikipedia has to say about it? (I've already read
Wikipedia and came out as confused as ever on this
On 03/05/2013 08:03 PM, seventhray27 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 03/01/2013 12:28 PM, John wrote:
He wanted to play a powerful role of the politics in South America.
It appears that destiny has other plans for him.
Why shoot the messenger? The TMO is not responsible for my personal experiences
of significant benefits gained from the practice of TM. If my own direct
experience has been positive, why should I judge the results I've had any
differently just because a small select group behaves in ways I
Navashok, just to say again, there is a checking for TMSP. I know people who
have had it.
Rick, maybe I don't get booted because I'm not a gov. Even when I was a grad
student and open about going to tantric workshops of David Deida, no one said
anything to me. EFT tapping is based on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@...
wrote:
Thank you, Navashok!
You post has actually answered my questions about mantras. In my
opinion, the fact that there is no sort of checking for sidhis means the
idea that the meaningless sound theory of the mantras is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sharalyn homeonthefarm@... wrote:
My undergraduate degree is in philosophy but I can't seem to grasp the
concept of FALSIFIABILITY, and why it is important. Can anyone explain it to
me in some way different than, say, what Wikipedia has to say about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sharalyn homeonthefarm@ wrote:
My undergraduate degree is in philosophy but I can't seem to grasp the
concept of FALSIFIABILITY, and why it is important. Can anyone explain it
to me
Another expression I enjoy for this sort of person is, armchair quarterback,
aka, armchair general. No expertise, except the capacity to sit on their
rear-ends and make stuff up they don't like, about stuff they know nothing
about. Not exactly mature behavior.
Yes, with practice, TMSP leads to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
Yes, with practice, TMSP leads to near perfect mental/physical integration.
Catchy little soundbite, but what does it actually mean?
You blew it - There is a phenomenon you've probably heard of in long distance
running, called, hitting the wall. It means reaching a point of physical
depletion, after 15 or so miles, so that the only thing carrying you forward is
your knowledge that it is a temporary phase, that can be
I was confirming what Share was talking about. It means a much shorter distance
in general between desire, and fulfillment of same.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
Yes,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
Yes, with practice, TMSP leads to near perfect mental/
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
Yes, I see how you and others can see that I am saying and it may not seem
logical, but that is not exactly what I am saying.
Topics to be added to the FFL list of what people on this list are concerned
about:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
I was confirming what Share was talking about. It means a much shorter
distance in general between desire, and fulfillment of same.
And how does one go about measuring it?
Or is it one of the many promises I came
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
Actually I think it's proof that TM is not a cult, the fact that someone like
me goes to the Dome every day twice a day and wisely seeks out whatever
healing modalities I think I need.
I donât know about current
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sharalyn homeonthefarm@... wrote:
Why shoot the messenger? The TMO is not responsible for my personal
experiences of significant benefits gained from the practice of TM. If my own
direct experience has been positive, why should I judge the results I've
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
You blew it - There is a phenomenon you've probably heard of in long distance
running, called, hitting the wall. It means reaching a point of physical
depletion, after 15 or so miles, so that the only thing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sharalyn homeonthefarm@... wrote:
Why shoot the messenger? The TMO is not responsible for my personal
experiences of significant benefits gained from the practice of TM. If my own
direct experience has been positive, why should I judge the results I've
Maybe it's the concept of testability that I was not getting. Does
falsifiability mean then that one condenses a theory into a more concise form,
to take it from a generalized (and therefore unprovable) form to a form which
can be tested, such as Meditation produces good results (too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6TNCbXxVyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6TNCbXxVyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9S-yXR9l1E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9S-yXR9l1E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wV_REEdvxofeature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wV_REEdvxofeature=youtu.be
The key is being able to answer the question: Is there a test even in
principle, that could show that the theory is false?. It often involves
making the claim more precise. But even your second example: The brain waves
of students practicing TM show increased coherence, might be
On 03/06/2013 01:35 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
The key is being able to answer the question: Is there a test even in
principle, that could show that the theory is false?. It often involves
making the claim more precise. But even your second example: The brain waves
of students
It means that the scientist uses operational definitions. For example, if
testing the hypothesis that TM increases IQ the scientist might operationally
define an increase in IQ as higher test scores on a standardized IQ test,
taken once before practicing TM and once after practicing TM twice
Just because it is Wednesday, Share's day, I post this for her (What is
the plural for two small mooses? Meece, I guess. 'Moose' just sounds too
grown up.):
[Young Moose â¥
Visit our Page -⺠Most Adorable Pictures â- For more pics]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
Navashok, just to say again, there is a checking for TMSP.Â
Okay Share, just to let you know that I have seen this. I'm going out of town
tomorrow, so will be back only next week, and still have to pack, and no, I am
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote:
http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/message.html
Look at the caption under the photo. In my browser Firefox and Chrome,
only Elephant Man, Wild at Heart, Twin Peaks, Blue Velvet, Lost
Highway, Straight Story, Mulholland Drive,
I especially enjoyed the third video.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6TNCbXxVyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6TNCbXxVyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9S-yXR9l1E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9S-yXR9l1E
Ha-Ha! Why, did you quit TM prematurely too?? My take on stuff I quit, is that
I quit. I definitely don't continue to dig at it, if I am no longer
participating. I would never start an argument with someone, arguing against
something they did, when I didn't. How incredibly dense. So, yeah, I
No - don't BS yourself. It is simply a relative measurement of how well your
desires have been fulfilled in the past, vs. now. If mind/body coordination is
increasing, then YF is working, and desires are fulfilled more quickly.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808
Man, you have a very, very poor memory, Turq (as if that's a surprise). My
insistence on my enlightenment, CC at the time, was as a demonstration that
enlightenment was possible for anyone, and not the pie in the sky unobtainable
state that you and your now absent fair weather friends insisted
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
(snip)
And if you are interested in challenging their supposed
truth or value. In my experience, it's these core or
*never challenged* beliefs that persist the longest, and
are toughest to either recognize or challenge.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
the mantras the Chopra meditation instructors give are chosen by jyotish
chart, so his assertion that it couldn't be done in his lifetime was a lie.
this shows how dishonest YOU are, you have not demonstated any lie
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