[FairfieldLife] MUM's confusing guide to higher consciousness unraveled....

2007-01-20 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The seven states of consciousness are identified, according to the MUM style guide, as: http://resources.mum.edu/manuals/styleguide.pdf Turiya Chetanå (Transcendental Consciousness) Turiyåtit Chetanå (Cosmic

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM's confusing guide to higher consciousness unraveled....

2007-01-20 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This god consciousness is pretty much where Dzogchen begins. But because it begins without mind, one simply cannot reify any mental elaboration and therefore no philosophy will ever reach such cognition. It can be

[FairfieldLife] No man cometh unto the Father (Brahman) except thru me....

2007-01-20 Thread wmurphy77
As Jesus, the Christed one, so well put it, the Christ in him was one with the Absolute, (CC) and like Jesus we must realize 'Christ' in us (as God Consciousness, personal) BEFORE we can become one with the Father, Brahman or impersonal God. Christ Chaitanya (consciousness) is awareness of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga..

2007-01-20 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some masturbation is worship at some of the greatest temples Doubtful.procreation of Shiva/Shakti more probable!

[FairfieldLife] Masterbation and Yoga...(Sorry Judy, men only!)

2007-01-18 Thread wmurphy77
The highest and best use of the sexual energy is procreation; whether that be spiritual procreation (higher consciousness) by conservation of the shakti (sex) force, or material procreation for the purpose of children. The next outcome, masterbation, in order to release congestion, is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga...(Sorry Judy, men only!)

2007-01-18 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rules on sex were probably made during times of famine by kings or priests trying to keep the population down. There is an ayurvedic connection in that excessive masterbation can make one vata. It is the vata

[FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga...(Sorry Judy, men only!)

2007-01-18 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for some people shakti is never quiet and jacking off is not even a pause in evolution If you say so..

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, was Guru Dev in CC or GC or UC???? Acording to MMY-CC!

2007-01-17 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: **snip** True, in man, it is limited

[FairfieldLife] MMY's race to impose 'Natural Law' ahead of 'Sharia Law'..

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
And how will it be done? Spread neo-hinduism incorporating Yoga-lite (i.e. Mantra Yoga) on modernity. The less mentioned about God the better, then when this is established and modernity has tasted a little bliss, full blown hinduism can hold sway. So much for 'freedom' and 'democracy' (MMY-damn

[FairfieldLife] Hey, was Guru Dev in CC or GC or UC???? Acording to MMY-CC!

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
In Love and God MMY proclaims Guru Dev had reached the Cosmic Consciousness'the perfect expression of 'Purnamadah purnamidam'. Now in the Gita he says CC is merely the basis of GC which leads to UC, huh??? You mean Guru Dev was just in CC...go figure! He also states that Brahmi-sthiti

[FairfieldLife] Is MMY afraid of using the word 'Soul' .......

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
...that would explain his concept of 'Self-Realization' now wouldn't it, but if you use the word Soul, yikes that smarts of Religion...can't do! So let's just call it CC. Gettin' the picture??? CC is Self Realization or realization of Spirit or Brahman in relation to your SELF or SOUL! (Limited

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, was Guru Dev in CC or GC or UC???? Acording to MMY-CC!

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 16, 2007, at 3:04 PM, wmurphy77 wrote: In Love and God MMY proclaims Guru Dev had reached the Cosmic Consciousness'the perfect expression of 'Purnamadah purnamidam'. Now in the Gita he says CC is merely

[FairfieldLife] MMY's attempt to teach 'Sanatana Dharma' , the eternal Religion of the Vedas,

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
without mentioning the word Religion.hey, if you cut the head off a dog, IT'S STILL A DOG! Personally I'm fine with TM being taught as a Religion, although, I may have never started...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, was Guru Dev in CC or GC or UC???? Acording to MMY-CC!

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
awareness'. Hope this helps. BillyG. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 16, 2007, at 3:04 PM, wmurphy77 wrote: In Love and God MMY proclaims Guru Dev had

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's race to impose 'Natural Law' ahead of 'Sharia Law'..

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might be wise to understand that Vedic law is the first law which supported the democracy of Harappa. And it was a democracy?...call MMY immediately!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, was Guru Dev in CC or GC or UC???? Acording to MMY-CC!

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this is the stuff that FFL was made for, right? The field of pure existence -- Being -- *is* the Self. Actually, the Self is beyond both existence and non-existence. It is so rock-solid and complete that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, was Guru Dev in CC or GC or UC???? Acording to MMY-CC!

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The seven states of consciousness are identified, according to the MUM style guide, as: http://resources.mum.edu/manuals/styleguide.pdf Turiya Chetanå (Transcendental Consciousness) Turiyåtit Chetanå (Cosmic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, was Guru Dev in CC or GC or UC???? Acording to MMY-CC!

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 16, 2007, at 5:26 PM, sparaig wrote: The seven states of consciousness are identified, according to the MUM style guide, as: http://resources.mum.edu/manuals/styleguide.pdf Turiya Chetanå

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, was Guru Dev in CC or GC or UC???? Acording to MMY-CC!

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non sequitur. There's no mention nor any implication in my above statement that is connected to your response. Turiyatita or jivan- mukti are the traditional words for CC. It's well-known in what style of literature

[FairfieldLife] Why Patanjali's eight limbs are fundamental to Yoga..even with MMY!

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
Number one: Yama, which includes the below, Truthfulness Non-violence Non-covetousness Celibacy Non-acceptance of others possessions. If you're waiting for limb number 8, Samadhi, to solve all of your problems, think again! It is only thru samadhi that one is empowered to practice the other

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, was Guru Dev in CC or GC or UC???? Acording to MMY-CC!

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 16, 2007, at 5:50 PM, wmurphy77 wrote: Indeed they are.: the commentaries of the Badarayana sutras. I traced this years ago after I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Patanjali's eight limbs are fundamental to Yoga..even with MMY!

2007-01-16 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: Number one: Yama, which includes the below, Truthfulness Non-violence Non-covetousness Celibacy Non-acceptance of others possessions

[FairfieldLife] New Charlie website....with written material by Charlie.

2007-01-13 Thread wmurphy77
http://www.maharishiphotos.com/index.html May have already been posted heregood written lectures by Charlie.

[FairfieldLife] Charlie lecture on 'Faith'....

2007-01-13 Thread wmurphy77
Faith (9/18/81) Faith is one thing that is most needed in this life and something that so many have so little of. It generally follows that persons who have a strong character have strong faith and those of a weak character have very little faith in anything. In the Scriptures it is said, Ye of

[FairfieldLife] Chronic neck pain due to TM....

2007-01-13 Thread wmurphy77
One of the dangerous side effects of TM is chronic neck pain if not handled properly. When during TM if you fall asleep sitting, the head will fall towards the chest, *this is a very dangerous situation*. Over time if the head is not supported by a neck pillow or brace of some kind you will

[FairfieldLife] MMY's 'goofy'? idea on karma!

2007-01-11 Thread wmurphy77
Science of Being Art of Living page 137 hb. When a man is liberated and his individuality has merged into cosmic existence, then the influence of his past karma will be received by his son or grandson *or* by those who have blood affinity with him. You gotta be kiddin' right!!! And this is

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's 'goofy'? idea on karma!

2007-01-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: Science of Being Art of Living page 137 hb. When a man is liberated and his individuality has merged into cosmic existence, then the influence

[FairfieldLife] After 38 years of TM, I finally understand MMY's Bhagavad Gita, that is...

2007-01-11 Thread wmurphy77
after reading Paramahansa Yogananda's Bhagavad Gita (all 18 chapters). MMY's terminology is very confusing and conflates all levels of consciousness so many times you don't know if you're coming or going! Although the principles are there the process of getting there is *painfull* to say the

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's 'goofy'? idea on karma!

2007-01-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: Science of Being Art of Living page 137 hb. When a man is liberated and his individuality has merged into cosmic existence

[FairfieldLife] Re: After 38 years of TM, I finally understand MMY's Bhagavad Gita, that is...

2007-01-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: after reading Paramahansa Yogananda's Bhagavad Gita (all 18 chapters). MMY's terminology is very confusing and conflates all levels of consciousness

[FairfieldLife] Re: After 38 years of TM, I finally understand MMY's Bhagavad Gita, that is...

2007-01-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: after reading Paramahansa Yogananda's Bhagavad Gita (all 18 chapters). MMY's terminology is very confusing and conflates all levels

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's 'goofy'? idea on karma!

2007-01-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: Science of Being Art of Living page 137 hb. When a man is liberated and his individuality has merged into cosmic existence, then the influence of his

[FairfieldLife] MMY's *withches brew* of consciousness!

2007-01-11 Thread wmurphy77
Hey, it's all transcendental, right! Most TM'er are mixed up when it comes to understanding the differentations of CC, GC and UC. MMY explains it so poorly that anybody who reads the Gita is sure to be confused. Here, I'll unravel it for you! CC is Self Realization, realization of your Soul! Not

[FairfieldLife] Re: After 38 years of TM, I finally understand MMY's Bhagavad Gita, that is...

2007-01-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you are mixing up the consept of Jesus and The Christ ? Jesus was the man, Christ is the Universal Soul, the only begotten of the Father, the Father being Brahman. We all have the power to become Christ

[FairfieldLife] Re: After 38 years of TM, I finally understand MMY's Bhagavad Gita, that is...

2007-01-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're an idiot. snip OffWorld I see ad hominum attacks didn't take long to surface, I feel right at home, cracker anybody?

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's 'goofy'? idea on karma!

2007-01-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're an idiot. In that quote you quoted, Maharishi's comment only referred to the good karma that would come to your children when you are liberated and merge with the Cosmic. I tried to direct your mind

[FairfieldLife] Re: After 38 years of TM, I finally understand MMY's Bhagavad Gita, that is...

2007-01-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: You're an idiot. snip OffWorld I see ad hominum attacks

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to beat your wife under Islamic law.

2006-10-18 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FOR MUSLIM READERS OF FFL: Go to youtube.com and put in the words islam and wife in the search engine and you'll get some wonderful pointers on how to beat your wife according to the Koran. I guess Paul

[FairfieldLife] Nirvikalpa Samadhi...the highest samadhi!

2006-10-13 Thread wmurphy77
OM..purnam adah, purnam idam, (inner and outer fullness). In the book Love and God, (page 5)MMY relates that Guru Dev is in the highestSahaja-samadhi. This IS the God Consciousness referred to by MMY. When your *Samadhi* experience *embodies* the fullness of the relative... Eureka, you have

[FairfieldLife] MMY refering to Guru Dev's state of consciousness....

2006-10-13 Thread wmurphy77
Love and God, page 8, Soon he arrived at the Heatless Smokeless Effulgence of the Self and realized the Divine Truth, the *Cosmic Consciousness*, the *Ultimate Supreme Reality*, Sat Chit Anandam, the Nirvana. MMY Beyond Nirvana there is a term Buddhists use called the Maha Para Nirvana that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvikalpa Samadhi...the highest samadhi!

2006-10-13 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip However, as you note, it ripens into GC, or seen another way, integrates fully with all relative existence as seen from the CC perspective, becoming GC. Correct Then as the fullness deepens once again, its

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution

2006-09-22 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Again, I *apologize* for having mentioned this group on AMT a year ago. If I hadn't you wouldn't have been faced with this alien infestation. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,.welcome to American, where are you

[FairfieldLife] Take a Hillbilly from the South and put him in the Middle East....

2006-09-18 Thread wmurphy77
and what have you got? A Genius! Charlie Lutes some 20 years ago!Swear to God, I heard it with my own ears...paraphrased!! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Intellect

2006-09-16 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like 'mahat' (mahat-tattva[sp?]: the great principle) also means 'intellect': 1 mahat mfn. (orig. pr. p. of 1. %{mah} ; strong form , %{mahAnt} f. % {mahatI4} ; in ep. often %{mahat} for %{mahAntam} ; ibc.

[FairfieldLife] The true meaning of the word, *infidel*..........

2006-09-16 Thread wmurphy77
The battle of the Bhagavad Gita wages on the field of Kurukshetra (the physical and subtle bodies) for the undisputed reign of the bodily kingdom, which is the war between Buddhi, or discriminative intelligence and avidya, or ignorance. Every spiritual aspirant wishing to win this battle must

[FairfieldLife] Re: The true meaning of the word, *infidel*..........

2006-09-16 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/16/06 11:20:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Once this is accomplished he/she is considered a Siddha,(perfected being). I personally don't know any Siddhas in spite of how

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-12 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 9/11/06 1:32 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure Shemp, sometimes I feel a personal Guru might be necessary and sometimes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Its Official: FFL is Now AMT

2006-09-12 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its Official: FFL is Now AMT Of the past 100 posts, 78% were made by former/current heavy AMTers. Leaders: % of total posts Spraig 24 Shemp 20 Unc16 Judy 14 Hey...don't forget me, I'm an old

[FairfieldLife] Re: Its Official: FFL is Now AMT

2006-09-12 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Its Official: FFL is Now AMT Of the past 100 posts, 78% were made by former/current heavy AMTers. Leaders: % of total posts Spraig

[FairfieldLife] Re: Its Official: FFL is Now AMT

2006-09-12 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Its Official: FFL is Now AMT Of the past 100 posts, 78% were made

[FairfieldLife] Re: Its Official: FFL is Now AMT

2006-09-12 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/12/06 4:09 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , blissbunn1 blissbuni@ wrote: What's AMT?

[FairfieldLife] Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread wmurphy77
To understand this is to understand and love MMY. Many have come to Yoga because MMY has simplified the esoteric teaching of India to comform to modern standards and receiptivity; though, in the end a personal *guru* may be necessary to achieve final illumination. MMY is NOT a personal guru!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: To understand this is to understand and love MMY. Many have come to Yoga because MMY has simplified the esoteric teaching of India to comform

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't know. But MMY says that all that is needed is TM. That's why I see a dilemma for True Believers in this area: if they feel they need to do MORE than TM and take MMY as their personal guru, then

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/11/06 1:32 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure Shemp, sometimes I feel a personal Guru might be necessary and sometimes not! Why is it though, Shemp, all well known Saintshad Gurus

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I have a personal guru and it is great to be able to have questions answered plus a whole advanced path of techniques leading to the archarya level. However I tested this guru and he tested me before proceding to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Quit a little conundrum... A very interesting conundrum, Shemp. It is good you have pointed this out. I think that although TM is a very basic calming technique, a somewhat refined but common

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But MMY says that all that is needed is TM. That's why I see a dilemma for True Believers in this area: if they feel they need to do MORE than TM and take MMY as their personal guru, then they are implicitly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/11/06 2:18 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 9/11/06 1:32 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I may be pollyanna-ish about this but I truly am convinced that TM is all that is needed...AND I believe it's the fastest most effective way to enlightenment. And let me reiterate: I am referring to that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: parsnip He implicitly said it when he told you that with the TM Program you would unfold 100% of your mental potential. You may be right but surely ONLY time will tell. I'm still betting on this horse (TM) coming

[FairfieldLife] Re: Helen Lutes once said, MMY tricked us into meditating.

2006-09-08 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: snip It¹s worth about as much as ³bees come from Venus,² another of Charlie¹s little gems of wisdom. Oh, gee, did he really say that? Bless his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

2006-09-07 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Interesting. Who says? That's the all-important question, you see. If the source of a statement about meditation or spiritual practice is not Maharishi personally, or some book that bears his official

[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

2006-09-07 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's an easy enough thing to dismiss. If you think that samadhi is a thing to be perceived, or that there is a consistent experience that always precedes it, you're wrong. Period. End of story. Move along folks,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

2006-09-07 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This seems to be Muktananda's description of his experience; but words, although flashy, would still fall short. Because words are devisive by nature, and the opening of the third eye, or spiritual site, or

[FairfieldLife] Re: The big WHY

2006-09-07 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: snip I first noticed something odd when even counseling was given a bum

[FairfieldLife] Re: Om

2006-09-07 Thread wmurphy77
Right on...even MMY says that in his little book, The Vedas. Additionally, when you transcend, *consciously* you will experience the mother of all mantras, AUM! The very vibration that has created the cosmos is Mother Divine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Helen Lutes once said, MMY tricked us into meditating.

2006-09-07 Thread wmurphy77
Hey, who knew it was gonna take us 7 lifetimes to reach CC...Ha, Ha! We had to get THAT from Charlie!!! By the way, if MMY was giving intros suggesting that in 7 lifetimes you would finally achieve what he was teaching would YOU have started??? Hardly! Chakras??? forget it! He might as well

[FairfieldLife] Re: Helen Lutes once said, MMY tricked us into meditating.

2006-09-07 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/7/06 10:19:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey, who knew it was gonna take us 7 lifetimes to reach CC...Ha, Ha! We had to get THAT from Charlie!!! By the way, if MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Helen Lutes once said, MMY tricked us into meditating.

2006-09-07 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Hey, perhaps you are on your seventh as we speak! Seriously, as a hypothesis the reason all of us were attracted to TM in the first place could be because of past lifetimes doing some form of meditation.

[FairfieldLife] A million years to reach Cosmic Consciousness MMY Fuiggi.

2006-09-07 Thread wmurphy77
MMY said: "It will take you a million years to reach CC, unless you come to these courses"! I was there andthat's what he said in Fuiggi, Italy in the Auditorium...snif. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

2006-09-06 Thread wmurphy77
Within the silence of meditation a blue light will appear and surrounding this blue light a wider white or golden light, this is the light of the all-seeing spiritual eye of the soul (the third eye). Upon entry therein the consciousness finds itself one with God in nature (Prakiti) also known

[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

2006-09-06 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: Within the silence of meditation a blue light will appear and surrounding this blue light a wider white or golden light, this is the light of the all

[FairfieldLife] Conscious transcending thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye).....

2006-09-04 Thread wmurphy77
(Warning: Proceed at your own risk! This information for stout souls only!) Unless your have *consciously* experienced the holy AUM vibration and passed thru the omnipresent all seeing third eye to spiritual light and bliss you *have not transcended*even once! This is the secret, until

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conscious transcending thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye).....

2006-09-04 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: (Warning: Proceed at your own risk! This information for stout souls only!) Unless your have *consciously* experienced the holy AUM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conscious transcending thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye).....

2006-09-04 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: (Warning: Proceed at your own risk! This information for stout souls only!) Unless your have *consciously* experienced the holy AUM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, he secularized a lot of the stuff. For instance, creative intelligence for shakti. I think you hit the nail on the head, MMY simplified everything and made it more appealing to a world wide audience..hence you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't any of you guys considered the obvious? He doesn't speak about chakras (and thousands of other spiritual subjects) because he doesn't know anything about them. Ha, haI enjoyed this and your posts below, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Before anyone freaks out and considers this anti-TM, it's not. snip Why, *of course* it's not anti-TM (or anti-MMY). How could anybody think

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another piece of jigsaw puzzle, thanks. snip So what happened when you looked in MMY's eyes that caused you to stop meditating? (P.S. Like your website BTW.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where the mantras come from!...

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wmurphy77 wrote: In the Astral/Causal spine there are 7 centers (chakras)coexistent snip Have you read the Mantra Mahodadhi of Mahidhara? NO To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip What the hell is this third eye and why do you think it is important? The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's important! Unfolding of the chakras unfold powers of morality, self control, chastity,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Electo-Magnetic Energy of Enlightenment'

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
You've got it Spock!!! And it's so basic to Yoga, really! -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many Yogis have told me that the Sexual Chakra is the Second Chakra [Orange]. The first Chakra [Red] is the base, also called Mooladhara Chakra in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's important! Unfolding of the chakras unfold powers of morality, self control, chastity, descrimination, etc. That is why we meditate, and the unfolding of the

[FairfieldLife] The 7chakras as found in the Mundaka Upanishad...

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
The flame has seven licking tongues: Kali, the dark one; the terrible; the swift-as-thought; the crimson one; the smoky-colored; the sparkling one; and Devi, she who takes all forms. Whoever performs the sacrifice correctly, when these seven are *enlivened, he is led by them, as the rays of

[FairfieldLife] The 7chakras as found in the Mundaka Upanishad...

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
The flame has seven licking tongues: Kali, the dark one; the terrible; the swift-as-thought; the crimson one; the smoky-colored; the sparkling one; and Devi, she who takes all forms. Whoever performs the sacrifice correctly, when these seven are *enlivened, he is led by them, as the

[FairfieldLife] Is passage thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

[FairfieldLife] Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. (previous subject line cut off) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. (previous subject line

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is passage thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. MMY never discusses

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure I understand all of what you said- all I can say is that when the third eye opens (a very weird expression by the way...) the ability is gained to see all manner of things without the optic machinery of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correction: for the record I dropped practice for a few weeks after seeing the look in MMYs eyes whilst standing near him in Royal Albert Hall London in the mid-1970's. Care to share what you saw??? To

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indians in general speak of the third eye open (kundalini has risen) as a sign of enlightenment. And what does MMY say? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, I'm sure that is what Christ meant: me = 3rd eye. Yes, as Christ is *the only begotten* of the Father and is God immanent IN creation (formless Christ or Buddhic plane of consciousness, the one life, the one soul)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what does MMY say? Like others have mentioned here I never heard him speak of the chakras. It's not that the information isn't important though. I'm not sure why MMY does not mention opening of the

[FairfieldLife] Where the mantras come from!...

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
In the Astral/Causal spine there are 7 centers (chakras)coexistent with the Sushumna and the Brahmanadi 'spine'each center (chakra) has a specific number of 'petals' or vibrations (50 in total, not including the Sahasrara chakra, the 7th, which contains them all) from which the Sanskrit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is passage thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. It is easier

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he DOES consider

[FairfieldLife] Maha'Rush'i (Rush Limbaugh)and MahaRishi agree on UN....

2006-07-20 Thread wmurphy77
The great MahaRushi and Maharishi agree that the UN is nothing but a bad JOKE: useless, insipid, impotent, and run by nothing other than a monkey in a silk suit (have you seen his suits, KaChing $). My grandpap use to call them slick nigger devils, I however have better taste!~!!!

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi and Mantras'

2006-07-19 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So, Maharishi evolved himself, and the teaching evolved as he did. Now, as we know, the teaching has become a lot more than just the mantra and the method of using the mantra. Maharishi, the teaching, the

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