Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread TurquoiseBee
I think your arms length comment kinda says it all, Steve. That's just what armchair seekers like Judy DO. They never actually DO anything much to further their own self discovery...they just read about other people's, and then argue about the stuff they think about it. One of the reasons

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/12/2014 11:02 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: In the real world some people here would remain friendless and wouldn't be invited a second time to the gathering at Starbucks. It would be a strange meeting at Starbucks to be invited for coffee if you'd just been called a dumb hick, a

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread Share Long
That's it, Richard! I'm moving to Austin and hanging out at Starbuck's! But might visit Whole Foods now and then, just to stock up on Larabars and quinoa (-: On Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote:   On 2/12/2014 11:02 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread authfriend
I wonder why Barry assumes I never met Robin. So Bhairitu, you think Barry is just kidding with this post? He seems awfully wound up to me. There's always tremendous negative energy behind his demonizations of Robin or Ann or me or others he doesn't like. It's as if he was fighting for his

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread authfriend
It's funny you should say this about me without including Barry, whose attacks on those he doesn't like are almost all dead serious. As to the Internet being made for me, what makes you think all my friends are electronic-only? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/12/2014 10:25 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: It's odd, isn't it, that most people here in this place for the insane nevertheless manage to get their facts straight most of the time and ground their opinions in those facts rather than in hallucinatory fantasies and deliberate distortions,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread authfriend
Um, yeah, except he figured nobody here was stupid enough to think he was serious, given how vanishingly unlikely it was that he would ally himself with Barry. And anyone who was that stupid who watched for signs of any rapprochement with Barry or opposition to me after that would have had a

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread Bhairitu
What's funny about this is that I posted my comment yesterday morning and it only showed up on the web site in the evening. It came through by mail yesterday morning. The NSA must be really busy these days. :-D Perhaps it depends on one's pedigree. Some folks I met during my time in TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread Bhairitu
We know you cut the cable as far as TV is concerned. Did you dump TWC for broadband too? Comcast wants to gobble it up if you've been paying attention to the news. The Roberts family must want to own the world. On 02/13/2014 06:54 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 2/12/2014 11:02 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
We could all meet at Starbucks in Austin and get those YouTube people down here to film it and put it online. It would be an interesting meeting but seriously, I doubt if Judy would be invited and still get all the others to show up for the meeting. But, assuming she did show up, after Barry

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/13/2014 11:55 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Did you dump TWC for broadband too? We've still got the ATT DSL at the place in San Antonio. When we move to Austin we will get on the fiber optic. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread steve.sundur
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: It's funny you should say this about me without including Barry, whose attacks on those he doesn't like are almost all dead serious. It just an area where we have a difference of opinion. In general, I think Barry's approach to

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread authfriend
You must be very selective in the posts by Barry that you read. You're a piker compared to him. Did you see his post this morning? Its viciousness (and inaccuracy) is typical. Your experience with making and keeping friends live vs. electronically is most definitely not the same as mine.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/13/2014 3:04 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Judy has arguably the *least* actual hands on spiritual experience of anyone on this forum. Maybe that's to Judy's credit - she was not as gullible as you were for example, donating thousands of dollars to MMY and to the Rama guy - spending half of

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread Bhairitu
U-Verse or something else? Did I read that they are doing a community fiber in Austin? I have U-Verse and the fiber terminates about 1/2 block away so it is copper from there to the pole. Not much of any problem but it is overpriced. They should have done community fiber here but we would

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread Bhairitu
YouTube people is us. You have a smart phone with a camera don't you? My phone takes 1080p HD and has a wide angle lens (instead of a 52mm standard like point and shoots). I also have other HD cameras. I suspect that folks who read like they would kill each other on FFL would just be

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread Share Long
noozguru and Richard, if youtube is us, then why the heck can't I find what I just posted there? Mr first youtube and I can't even figure out how to find it! Go figure! On Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:34 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:   YouTube people is us.  You have a

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: What's funny about this is that I posted my comment yesterday morning and it only showed up on the web site in the evening. It came through by mail yesterday morning. The NSA must be really busy these days. :-D Perhaps it

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-13 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I wonder why Barry assumes I never met Robin. So Bhairitu, you think Barry is just kidding with this post? He seems awfully wound up to me. There's always tremendous negative energy behind his demonizations of Robin or Ann or me

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread steve.sundur
Judy, take your dysfunctionality somewhere else. Whether it was 12,000 words or 5,000 words it defied any kind of logic or reason. You may be about the only person to whom it made sense. I am not sure why that would be. Perhaps it gave you some sense of closeness the Maharishi that never got

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread steve.sundur
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Judy, take your dysfunctionality somewhere else. Whether it was 12,000 words or 5,000 words it defied any kind of logic or reason. You may be about the only person to whom it made sense. I am not sure why that would be. Perhaps it

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread authfriend
Wait. You keep misquoting me after I've corrected you, and I'm dysfunctional? How does that work, again? And what makes you think I'm disputing the number of words? Not only can you not remember what I said a couple of days ago, you don't seem able to read what I wrote last night. As far as

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread authfriend
Wow, Barry. Is this the best you can do? Pretty slim pickings given how many posts I've written about your own lies and misrepresentations. Here are the two sentences from your post I was remembering when I said you'd called Robin's last post a 12,000-word rant: Nowhere is this to be

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread anartaxius
Barry does not seem to aspire to the kind of precision you enjoy. He seems mostly to rely on his writing skills and memory when posting on FFL. And we all know human memory is exceptionally pliable. He posts things he is interested in, occasionally replies to people, and there is a certain

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Barry does not seem to aspire to the kind of precision you enjoy. He seems mostly to rely on his writing skills and memory when posting on FFL. And we all know human memory is exceptionally pliable. He posts things he is interested

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread authfriend
Ooopsie Judy. That should be: And it most certainly is NOT the case that lies and misrepresentations have the same value as facts and opinions based on facts.

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Ooopsie Judy. That should be: And it most certainly is NOT the case that lies and misrepresentations have the same value as facts and opinions based on facts. I don't think Mr Xeno cares one way or another. He makes his own

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread authfriend
It's odd, isn't it, that most people here in this place for the insane nevertheless manage to get their facts straight most of the time and ground their opinions in those facts rather than in hallucinatory fantasies and deliberate distortions, especially regarding other FFLers. Doesn't mean

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread anartaxius
No it is not odd. I am old enough now that I just do not really care that much about what people say. Lying and deception drive whole populations to behave in certain ways, whether something is true or not does not mitigate the effects. We live the effect of untruth all day long. It's in our

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread authfriend
And yet Xeno seemed to care enough to go dig up a post of Barry's from the archives that I had quoted and (as I said) ostentatiously report that I had misidentified the person Barry was referring to. His not caring appears to be conspicuously selective. That's what I find odd. Perhaps needless

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread anartaxius
No, I have not addressed the issue you raised. By the way your comments on the CBO report seem to be accurate. http://www.factcheck.org/2014/02/the-aca-losing-job-vs-choosing-not-to-work/ http://www.factcheck.org/2014/02/the-aca-losing-job-vs-choosing-not-to-work/ ---In

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread authfriend
Duh. So sorry to disappoint you. No, I have not addressed the issue you raised. By the way your comments on the CBO report seem to be accurate. http://www.factcheck.org/2014/02/the-aca-losing-job-vs-choosing-not-to-work/

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/12/2014 9:39 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: This place is for the insane; perhaps there are a few amateur sociologists and researchers hanging in here collecting data, but who might they be? This place is supposed to be for sharing information about life experiences and views, but

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread anartaxius
Not disappointed. For some reason I did attempt to check your quote of Barry's. Normally I do not check anyone's quotes. Yahoo's Neo was simply giving me an error message. I logged in to an ATT account which seems to have a connexion to Yahoo through a server without Neo. It took a while to pin

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread Pundit Sir
Correction: Some people get their coffee beans at Revelations and some people get their coffee at Cafe Paridiso, in Fairfield, IA. [image: Inline image 2] http://kartikasays.com/category/life-in-fairfield-iowa/ . On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread steve.sundur
Judy, I'm gonna guess that you excelled in dodge ball as a grade schooler. I'm not going to bother to sort out the details of what you are saying here. I think the broad outlines of Robin's posts are pretty clear. Now within the broad outlines you can create any tale you like, but what he

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread authfriend
Of course you're not going to bother to sort out the details of what I wrote. You're in too deep a hole to even see over the edge. Apparently his intent was not at all clear to you. His overall objective was neither to write posts for posterity, nor to set the record straight, or whatever

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread steve.sundur
These are all your usual come ons, and of course, put downs. Prolonged discussions with you rarely result in any benefit, and often devolve into your mind reading abilities. But I guess it must give you pride to be the self appointed RWC expert. Something to hang your hat on.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread authfriend
Do you not know what come-on means? Look it up. Stevie, you practically solicit putdowns with your non sequiturs and inability, or unwillingness, to say anything relevant. You have no interest in actual discussion. It's not possible to have an intelligent discussion with you. There are any

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread steve.sundur
Excellent points. For most of us, it is just a chat room. A place to banter about. And so, it is sort of jarring when someone like Judy takes everything so seriously and personally. Like it squeezes most of the fun out of it. Of course you will never convince her of that. She views herself

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread steve.sundur
I wonder if wisdom will descend on Judy as it has on you taxius. I gather you are a few years her senior, but maybe not by too much. I guess realistically, it ain't gonna happen. But I enjoy your comments. Like, especially the short ones. (opsie, I hope that was alright to say) (-:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread steve.sundur
You know what Judy. Your response here seems pretty balanced to me. Like it didn't have an inordinate amount of meanness. That's kind of nice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Do you not know what come-on means? Look it up. Stevie, you practically solicit

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/12/2014 8:00 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: And so, it is sort of jarring when someone like Judy takes everything so seriously and personally. Nothing posted here should be taken seriously. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread Bhairitu
I like to think of this place as if we are sitting around a table at Starbucks. First off, most folks at the table wouldn't get so wound up on assertions because they would know the asserter is just kidding them. And we would hope that before someone replied they didn't say, just a minute as

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-12 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: I like to think of this place as if we are sitting around a table at Starbucks. First off, most folks at the table wouldn't get so wound up on assertions because they would know the asserter is just kidding them. And we would hope

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
This post is a superb example of why I said it really sucks to be Barry. Either he believes the delusional crap he wrote, or he knows it's crap but stupidly expects others to believe it. I'm going to start with a particularly embarrassing Barry-goof. He writes, According to Judy, he told

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: This post is a superb example of why I said it really sucks to be Barry. Either he believes the delusional crap he wrote, or he knows it's crap but stupidly expects others to believe it. What on earth makes you believe that anyone CARES what you

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: This post is a superb example of why I said it really sucks to be Barry. Either he believes the delusional crap he wrote, or he knows it's crap but stupidly expects others to believe it. I'm going to start with a particularly

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
Oh, too bad, then you missed my catch of the huge blooper you made concerning Robin having been near suicide. Not to mention the others I identified. And sorry to tell you, I don't put the same value on original posts that you do. I'm much more interested in interaction than showing off.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
I'm chuckling at Barry's posturing again because I just happened to look at my post to Seraphita again, and realized that I'd made my comment about Robin having been near suicide down in the second paragraph, well below the first few 'Message View' words of the post. Obviously Barry does care

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I was raised to not let anyone bully me. So in the late 1960s when there were all kinds of cult leader types I just blew them off. When Robin showed up here you may recall I told him in a message to break up his wall of words as I felt

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/11/2014 09:26 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I was raised to not let anyone bully me. So in the late 1960s when there were all kinds of cult leader types I just blew them off. When Robin showed up here you may recall I told him in a message

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread anartaxius
That December 9, 2011 post by Barry is discussing suicide in relation to Ravi, not Robin. Robin, as maskedzebra, was also a part of the thread. My comment here is only in relation to this one item in this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: This post is a superb

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
That is correct. My bad, and my most humble apologies to Barry. I only read the one paragraph, and since Barry demonizes both Ravi and Robin in very similar terms, I assumed he was referring to Robin. However, my distinct recollection is that in at least one of Robin's posts he either

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: That is correct. My bad, and my most humble apologies to Barry. I only read the one paragraph, and since Barry demonizes both Ravi and Robin in very similar terms, I assumed he was referring to Robin. In their wildest

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread steve.sundur
I admit, I found it awfully strange that when Robin first came on board he had that wall of words manner of writing. It seemed like a rather large blind spot on his part, since it made what he wrote almost unreadable. And I remember Barry 2 speaking up, and then Robin started breaking

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: I admit, I found it awfully strange that when Robin first came on board he had that wall of words manner of writing. It seemed like a rather large blind spot on his part, since it made what he wrote almost unreadable. And I

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
I believe I said he wanted it (his final response to his last exchange with Curtis) on the record, not that he was writing it for posterity. Charming bit of anti-Robin spin, Stevie-boy. You also apparently missed what I said about the 12,000 words including Curtis's contributions to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
Yes, Rick invited him. He'd been posting comments on John Knapp's (now Mike Doughney's) TM-Free blog before that. And of course I never said he was writing for posterity. And yes, that's my understanding, that he considered it an exercise for his own benefit, to interact with other TMers

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread steve.sundur
You live in a weird world Judy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I believe I said he wanted it (his final response to his last exchange with Curtis) on the record, not that he was writing it for posterity. Charming bit of anti-Robin spin, Stevie-boy. You also

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread steve.sundur
I thought Judy said a few days ago, that the purpose of his extraordinarily long posts was to basically, set the record straight especially with regard to this interactions with Curtis. And yes, I can't believe we're still talking about this. On the other hand, I kind of wish that

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yes, Rick invited him. He'd been posting comments on John Knapp's (now Mike Doughney's) TM-Free blog before that. And of course I never said he was writing for posterity. And yes, that's my understanding, that he considered

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
I just told you what I said. Why are you still misquoting me? And I wasn't talking about anything but his last series of posts, his last exchange with Curtis, in any case, what Barry dishonestly called a 12,000-word rant. He did write some long posts, but no single post was anywhere near

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
Just for fun, since it appears that she's up at 2:00 AM again obsessing: Speaking of poor memories, Barry never used the phrase 12,000-word rant. That's a lie. The only person who has used that phrase, according to the Yahoo Search engine, is Judy Stein, in three separate posts today. Opsie.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's The Following as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: Just for fun, since it appears that she's up at 2:00 AM again obsessing: Speaking of poor memories, Barry never used the phrase 12,000-word rant. That's a lie. The only person who has used that phrase, according to the Yahoo Search