[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

Re: "There are many layers of ideas to understand the meaning of this story." One way Gary Zukav discusses the story is in the context of the "evolution" of human beings and humanity, of the transition of our species from one rooted in "external power" and our "five senses", leading to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

S/B "the dynamics that, at a larger level of evolution were brought to bear upon our *evolution* " (not "revolution")—although that word works too.. Ha, I must have "revolution" on my mind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Re: "There are many layers of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

Yes, this was part of my point. I wasn't challenging John, just providing support and reasoning for an affirmative answer to his question below. Re: "So, why do atheists want others to believe what they believe?

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sq@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 8:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new Ebill, The atheist's belief that their are no gods, transcendence or Samadhi is sim

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So they won't feel *alone* in the universe. From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 8:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new   Ebill, The

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That's right! We'll *MAKE'M transcend! That'll teach'em. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 6:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

As a livestock person reading Armstrong here, then atheists are religious parasites cycling again. Damned worms eating at the guts of the animal. A good dose of authentic spiritual experience would be the de-wormer of choice of an invasion of endemic infectious atheism. Belief is religion but

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

I like this Armstrong quote, seems atheists are just new religionists coming along in sheep skins aching to explain their experience to larger flocks. ..and, we find now in their writings that these modern day atheists after their thrashing of fundamentalism are meditationists. ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

Emily, We must remember that the atheistic idea was already mentioned in the story of the Garden of Eden in the Book of Genesis. Satan, in the form of a snake, tempted Eve to eat the forbidden fruit in order to be like God. When she ate the fruit, she too convinced Adam to do the same.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

f Genesis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : So they won't feel *alone* in the universe. From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 8:44 PM Subjec

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

irfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : So they won't feel *alone* in the universe. From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 8:44 PM Subject: [Fairfi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

Re: "So, why do atheists want others to believe what they believe? Do they? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Ebill, The atheist's belief that their are no gods, transcendence or Samadhi is similarly an non-religious ideology. But, by the atheist's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

Emily, Yes, they do. Atheists are fairly similar to Satanists who were able to eliminate the use of prayers in Arizona. For them, the image of satan is a metaphorical symbol against any established religions. But, for most of them, satan does not exist like the gods in myths and legends.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

John, you may find this interesting. "Historically, atheism has rarely been a blanket denial of the sacred per se but has nearly always rejected a particular conception of the divine. At an early stage of their history, Christians and Muslims were both called "atheists" by their pagan

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

Ebill, The atheist's belief that their are no gods, transcendence or Samadhi is similarly an non-religious ideology. But, by the atheist's definition, there is no support of Nature nor transcendence which cannot be proved on a scientific basis. So, why do atheists want others to believe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

To argue that "spiritual experience" is conformable only to the definitions of the TMO is to admit that TM is only a belief system. No experience of Transcendence/Samadhi is actually necessary when the belief system reigns supreme. People who inhabit the "Domes of Doctrine" have separated

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

S3, This is an interesting point in comparing atheism to MMY's teachings. However, the comparison is misleading since the objective of transcending is to attain unity with the Universal Intelligence or the Unified Field. As I understand it, atheists do not believe in such intelligence or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

Re "Atheists do not believe in such intelligence or field": Oh yeah? How about Percy Bysshe Shelley's The Necessity of Atheism: "There Is No God. This negation must be understood solely to affect a creative Deity. The hypothesis of a pervading Spirit co-eternal with the universe remains

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

Re "Atheists do not believe in such intelligence or field": Oh yeah? How about Percy Bysshe Shelley's The Necessity of Atheism: "There Is No God. This negation must be understood solely to affect a creative Deity. The hypothesis of a pervading Spirit co-eternal with the universe remains

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

Well, To have 'faith' in the Unified Field by virtue of spiritual experience would not necessarily be a 'theism'. Different than 'belief' it could be is just how the watch mechanism works as fluctuating Being in experience. Transcendental meditationists for instance, transcendentalism,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists old and new

S3, As I understand it, there are several degrees of atheism. There are the scientific types like Richard Dawkins and the nihilist types like Camus. Even Dawkins thinks that he could be considered as an agnostic, and not as an atheist. But Shelley does not sound like an atheist. He