[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Gillam wrote: he was more interested in truth as he saw it than in converting someone else. Surely you can see how the two can coexist. This last sentence doesn't make sense. It should be, Surely

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-11 Thread Patrick Gillam
Responses interleaved below. --- TurquoiseB wrote: my life experiences have shown me that the word truth is basically an illusion, a name we put on our current state of attention and point of view. ... Fairfield Life has given me a strong appreciation of the malleability of truth. As

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-11 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- Gillam wrote: he was more interested in truth as he saw it than in converting someone else. Surely you can see how the two can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This has led to some maddening exchanges here. Someone would be taking Rory Goff to task, for instance, about some claim he made about Brahman consciousness, and Rory would respond with, Yeah, what you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- authfriend wrote: --- jim_flanegin wrote: However his overall tone was both truthful and respectful in my opinion. I wasn't commenting on anything more than that...and the obvious contrast between the POV expressed through the President of Iran's letter and the haughty,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few years ago we had a regular contributor to this forum called L B Shriver. L B was real good about engaging posters of all stripes, no matter how ideologically slanted they may have been. He was the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread Rick Archer
Forwarded to LB. he'll appreciate your comments. on 5/10/06 8:11 AM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend wrote: --- jim_flanegin wrote: However his overall tone was both truthful and respectful in my opinion. I wasn't commenting on anything more than

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- TurquoiseB wrote: --- Gillam wrote: Anyway, I think the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad letter should be given the L B treatment. Take it seriously and reply point by point. Just to play Deva's advocate :-), doesn't this imply a desire, or a need, to convert either the person one is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- Gillam wrote: he was more interested in truth as he saw it than in converting someone else. Surely you can see how the two can coexist. This last sentence doesn't make sense. It should be, Surely you can appreciate the difference. Thanks. To subscribe, send a message to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- authfriend wrote: snip But that's the *game*, don't you see? He acts all humble and respectful and religious knowing perfectly well how they're going to respond, knowing it'll make him look good to the rest of the world and the Bushies look bad. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
TorquiseB writes: snipped I guess it's fun, if you get off on that sort of thing, but another kind of dialogue consists of each person presenting his or her view, followed by others who present *their* point of view, but without trying to rip the first poster a new asshole. Those who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend wrote: snip But that's the *game*, don't you see? He acts all humble and respectful and religious knowing perfectly well how they're going to respond, knowing it'll make him look good

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- authfriend wrote: snip But that's the *game*, don't you see? He acts all humble and respectful and religious knowing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- jim_flanegin wrote: when I read the President of Iran's letter, with its frequent mention of God and the Christian values and Jesus, I support it fully, possibly more than the author does, and see it as a positive development in bringing greater light into this hidden war, because

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So, coming full circle, when I read the President of Iran's letter, with its frequent mention of God and the Christian values and Jesus, I support it fully, possibly more than the author does, and see it as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip So, coming full circle, when I read the President of Iran's letter, with its frequent mention of God and the Christian values and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- jim_flanegin wrote: --- authfriend wrote: --- jim_flanegin wrote: when I read the President of Iran's letter, with its frequent mention of God and the Christian values and Jesus, I support it fully, possibly more than the author does Did you understand him to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin wrote: --- authfriend wrote: --- jim_flanegin wrote: when I read the President of Iran's letter, with its frequent mention of God and the Christian values and Jesus, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had mentioned that Creation of Israel is probably the biggest mistake of the 20'th Century. Partitioning a state creates all kinds of complications. The only solution for Peace, is to reverse back to 1947

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-09 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No...not MMY. Another enlightened leader is now saying the same thing: http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/iran Puts MMY in good company, doesn't it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_reply@ wrote: No...not MMY. Another enlightened leader is now saying the same thing: http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/iran Puts MMY in good

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_reply@ wrote: No...not MMY. Another enlightened leader is now saying

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-09 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-09 Thread Patrick Gillam
Comments interleaved. --- authfriend wrote: --- jim_flanegin wrote: It is respectful, insightful, balanced and truthful. Secretary of State Rice betrays her wish for 'wargasm' (vs. orgasm) at her and our country's peril. You really think Ahmadinejad's letter has that much

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comments interleaved. --- authfriend wrote: --- jim_flanegin wrote: It is respectful, insightful, balanced and truthful. Secretary of State Rice betrays her wish for 'wargasm' (vs. orgasm) at her

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democracy Has Failed

2006-05-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I did notice that he wasn't doing a 'compare and contrast' thing between his job and Bush's. However his overall tone was both truthful and respectful in my opinion. I wasn't commenting on anything more