[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-22 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-21 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value. CC precedes GC precedes UC. If you think you're having some kind of UC experience when not already in CC (no small self), then you're not having UC. But Whos on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value. CC precedes GC precedes UC. If you think you're having some kind of UC experience

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-21 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value. CC precedes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value. CC

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-21 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: * * Hmm. Depends on how you define small self surrounded by Big Self, I suppose. If one identifies with a small self being Witnessed by a separate big Self, I would probably call that CC. When the small self -- and even the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread Yifu
question: does the knowledge/realization of do nothing and accomplish everything affect the content of one's choices? (apart from intellectualizing about the topic); for example - say - in the event that your next door neighbor's house is being being invaded by would-be robbers. Or, protecting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: question: does the knowledge/realization of do nothing and accomplish everything affect the content of one's choices? (apart from intellectualizing about the topic); for example - say - in the event that your next door

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: question: does the knowledge/realization of do nothing and accomplish everything affect the content of one's choices? (apart from intellectualizing about the topic); Good question. I don't see how it could fail to affect one's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread whynotnow7
Hi Judy and Rory, Its a perception thing - I exist as an individual entity with all my wondrous gifts and challenges, surrounded by a seamless fabric of invisible dynamism, of tangible pregnancy, potential and love, like being able to easily breathe underwater again. After so many lifetimes I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread sparaig
Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value. CC precedes GC precedes UC. If you think you're having some kind of UC experience when not already in CC (no small self), then you're not having UC. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread authfriend
Wasn't challenging anybody's perception, BTW, just wanted to point out how the guy who coined the phrase meant it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Hi Judy and Rory, Its a perception thing - I exist as an individual entity with all my wondrous gifts and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread RoryGoff
Hi, Jim! Yes, that is exactly what I was trying to express below, only you did it better :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Hi Judy and Rory, Its a perception thing - I exist as an individual entity with all my wondrous gifts and challenges, surrounded

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread RoryGoff
* * Hi, Lawson. I believe I see where you're coming from here, but it appears Jim is speaking of something else. From the POV of a small self lost/found in Brahman we could say small self surrendered into Big Self is virtually nothing and does nothing of itself -- of myself I do nothing; not I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking state it makes no sense at all. FWIW,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread whynotnow7
It is so intriguing and difficult to capture that space between us and everything else, where no clear lines of division exist, and yet in order to function in the world such divisions create unfathomable beauty and questions and challenges, an utterly chaotic, perfect orderliness. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread whynotnow7
Yep, its all about the music.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
Dear L - why this fascination with dead guys and their dead words, me prefers alive people and words, would rather listen to a St. Goff than a St. Thomas :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value. CC

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
Beautiful Jim - this and your previous post, you have articulated the indescribable in words quite well. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: It is so intriguing and difficult to capture that space between us and everything else, where no clear lines of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread whynotnow7
I enjoy trying to express it. These guys said it very well- Within You Without You/Tomorrow Never Knows by the Beatles with original promotional video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x07N5uoWpIo --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Beautiful Jim - this and your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-19 Thread Ravi Yogi
Yes it would seem to be only applicable to the inner. There are so many choices and decisions to make on the outer level but IME now being rooted in an inner silence it feels like there is tons of time to consider all the choices in a completely egoless manner. And after making the decision, not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking state it makes no sense at all. FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by it, with reference to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-19 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking state it makes no sense at all. FWIW,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do Nothing and Accomplish Everything

2005-10-05 Thread akasha_108
By 'doing nothing' one could 'accomplish everything.' Lao Tzu writes: The Tao abides in non-action, Yet nothing is left undone. If kings and lords observed this, The ten thousand things would develop naturally. If they still desired to act, They would return to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do Nothing and Accomplish Everything

2005-10-05 Thread akasha_108
Lao Tsu taught that all straining, all striving are not only vain but counterproductive. One should endeavor to do nothing (wu-wei). But what does this mean? It means not to literally do nothing, but to discern and follow the natural forces -- to follow and shape the flow of events and not to pit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do Nothing and Accomplish Everything

2005-10-05 Thread akasha_108
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:UiwZdIWS7ogJ:www.well.com/user/jct/chapter2.html+do+nothing+and+accomplish+everythinghl=enclient=firefox-a http://www.well.com/user/jct/ Q: You are saying that all search is doomed because there is nothing to achieve or understand. U.G.: There is nothing to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do Nothing and Accomplish Everything

2005-10-05 Thread akasha_108
Just as the wind blowing back and forth Controls (the movement of) a piece of cotton, So shall I be controlled by joy, And in this way accomplish everything.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do Nothing and Accomplish Everything

2005-10-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lao Tsu taught that all straining, all striving are not only vain but counterproductive. and The Taoist sage has no ambitions, therefore he can never fail. He who never fails always succeeds. And he who always

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do Nothing and Accomplish Everything

2005-10-05 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lao Tsu taught that all straining, all striving are not only vain but counterproductive. and The Taoist sage has no ambitions,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do Nothing and Accomplish Everything

2005-10-05 Thread akasha_108
And the wise know that they do not act. As the Lord knows that he does not act. Action in non-action Non-action in action Non-action in getting action Getting action with non-action This is the path of the Wise. Unc Sutras XIII, 32:4 as cognized by Akasha (upon visualizing the formless body of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do Nothing and Accomplish Everything

2005-10-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lao Tsu taught that all straining, all striving are not only

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do Nothing and Accomplish Everything

2005-10-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lao Tsu taught that all straining, all striving are not only vain but counterproductive. and The Taoist sage has no ambitions,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do Nothing and Accomplish Everything

2005-10-05 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is worth remembering that Lao-tzu was the teacher who got so fed up with his students never learning anything and never finding their own realiz- ation that he quit teaching and left China altogether. Or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do Nothing and Accomplish Everything

2005-10-05 Thread sallysunshine01
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Tao abides in non-action The Tao is pretty lazy then. The Tao obviously doesn't have kids. The Tao most likely has never kept a house. I would guess the Tao has never done much of any kind of work. The Tao