Seems Yahoo! By policy guidelines of moderation is not the only internet
provider Ratcheting up troll-controls:
Huffingtonpost: I predict the same will happen here and anywhere
else where troll-controls are ratcheting up. Instead of killing
business, it will bring back those who've stayed away,
By invoking Yahoo guidelines and HuffPo's decision to
prohibit anonymous commenting, you are overlooking the
fact that unlike HuffPo commenters and many if not most
Yahoo groups, FFL is a *community with a history*, not
a bunch of strangers on the Internet, as one FFL
poster (now absent)
Ariana Huffington is a computer illiterate probably still trying to
figure out her Blackberry. A lot of the late comers to computer seem to
hate anonymity but it is as old as the hills. And so are trolls. You
must not have read the letters to the editors in newspapers back in
the day where
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
snip
Handles became popular because with 300 baud modems you didn't
want to waste bits on your full name. Nor did we want to
waste bits on Dear, so the memo form was adopted for email
and online posts.
FWIW, many women use
Yes, responding to this ongoing threat to our group community here on FFL posed
by the posting of these posters there should be zero tolerance for the perp of
the ad hominem here at FFL.
-Buck
Seems Yahoo By policy guidelines of moderation is not the only internet
provider Ratcheting up
Yup, the ad hominem is right up the with pornography on Yahoo groups. Yahoo is
being ahead of the curve on this on the internet. Yahoo really is being quite
good and spiritual with its new guidelines for groups. FFL should come into
alignment.
Friends, But the larger problem we have
Although they are depicted in cartoons a lot, I actually saw a guy in Los
Angeles, once, wearing a sandwich board, that read, Repent! The end is near!.
I remember looking at his expression, and thinking how unflustered he looked.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@...
authfriend:
Buck, just a thought: Why don't you climb down off your
way-too-high horse and join in some of the conversations
here? Like, you know, an actual human being?
Here's an idea, Buck: let's ignore all the minions, Pips
and MGs and their Judy-Barry-Robin banter.
Then, the simple
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote:
authfriend:
Buck, just a thought: Why don't you climb down off your
way-too-high horse and join in some of the conversations
here? Like, you know, an actual human being?
Here's an idea, Buck: let's ignore all the
Stop talking *at* us and talk *with* us.
Whatever for?
If the function of Internet discussion groups
is to provide 'food for thought,' then FFL has
become McDonalds.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Stop talking *at* us and talk *with* us.
Whatever for?
There it is stated in two words followed by a question mark. I get it now. And
thank you.
If the function of Internet discussion groups
is to provide 'food for
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL lets
return to but35 posts per week
Stop talking *at* us and talk *with* us.
Whatever for?
If the function of Internet discussion groups
is to provide
!
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on
FFL lets return to but35 posts per week
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Stop talking *at* us and talk
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on
FFL lets return to but35 posts per week
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Stop talking *at* us and talk *with* us.
Whatever for?
If the function of Internet discussion groups
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
Buck, just a thought: Why don't you climb down off your
way-too-high horse and join in some of the conversations
here? Like, you know, an actual
11:04 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count
on
FFL lets return to but35 posts per week
Â
Stop talking *at* us and talk *with* us.
Whatever for?
If the function of Internet discussion groups
is to provide 'food for thought,' then FFL has
become
Yahoo! Groups give Yahoo! users a place to meet, interact, and share ideas
with each other. .. Yahoo! sets out the terms and conditions of your use ..
some of the key things to remember are:
1. You may not harass, abuse, threaten, or advocate violence
Friends;
But we got a larger problem
Yahoo! Groups give Yahoo! users a place to meet, interact, and share ideas
with each other. .. Yahoo! sets out the terms and conditions of your use ..
some of the key things to remember are:
1. You may not harass, abuse, threaten, or advocate violence
Yep, personal by its nature the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:
Actually, Buck's shtick is getting a bit old and particularly
tedious for a number of reasons. Part of me wants to believe
he's putting us on and part of me is terribly afraid he's serious.
Whatever it is I have to agree
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
--- In
Recent case in point, quote: I thought it was mean spirited, actually. Same
old invectives hurled at someone:
Are you dumb, or dull, or nuts?
Yahoo! Groups give Yahoo! users a place to meet, interact, and share ideas
with each other. .. Yahoo! sets out the terms and conditions of
People obviously have way too many posts to fire and burn here.
Recent case in point, quote: I thought it was mean spirited, actually. Same
old invectives hurled at someone:
Are you dumb, or dull, or nuts?
Yahoo! Groups give Yahoo! users a place to meet, interact, and share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Yahoo! Groups give Yahoo! users a place to meet, interact, and share
ideas with each other. .. Yahoo! sets out the terms and conditions of
your use .. some of the key things to remember are:
1. You may not harass, abuse, threaten, or
sorry I am from an island inhabited by the French, my English is not so well..
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Yahoo! Groups give Yahoo! users a place to meet, interact, and share
ideas with each
ly on on. :)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Yahoo! Groups give Yahoo! users a place to meet, interact, and share
ideas with each other. .. Yahoo! sets out the terms and conditions of
your use ..
I'm wondering if Buck is one the TM'ers who doesn't get calm from
meditation but anxiety instead? IOW, TM isn't for him and needs a
different technique.
On 08/26/2013 07:46 PM, emptybill wrote:
Quit complaining. You sound like an
old woman with excess stomach acid.
Just start your own
Buck:
People obviously have way too many posts to fire
and burn here.
Now this is really funny - a guy posts an ad hominem, a
classic logical fallacy, to a thread about not posting any
more ad hominems.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/355407
Friends, But the larger problem we have now is with the new Yahoo guidelines
and our under-moderated ad hominem homid members threatening the life=blood of
the whole group.
People obviously have way too many posts to fire and burn here.
Recent case in point, quote: I thought it was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Friends, But the larger problem we have now is with the new Yahoo
guidelines and our under-moderated ad hominem homid members threatening
the life=blood of the whole group.
People obviously have way too many posts to fire and burn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqv6PIH_ymY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqv6PIH_ymY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Friends, But the larger problem we have now is with the new Yahoo
guidelines and our
Buck, just a thought: Why don't you climb down off your
way-too-high horse and join in some of the conversations
here? Like, you know, an actual human being?
Show us how it's done, buddy. Stop talking *at* us and
talk *with* us.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWBAKMYKPSc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWBAKMYKPSc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote:
Buck, just a thought: Why don't you climb down off your
way-too-high horse and join in some of the conversations
here? Like, you know, an actual
No, we missed him. The new attraction I hadn't seen before were women,
naked except for g-strings and pasties, but painted in patriotic colors.
I have to say it wasn't the most family friendly attraction. Otherwise
it was business as usual on Times Square. Tons of people, tons of
lights, and
It is a great place to visit. I used to drive a box truck into NYC when I
worked for the TMO in Livingston Manor. Quite a contrast to our monk-like
existence at the time!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote:
No, we missed him. The new attraction I
Yep these people have taken toll the life spark of FairfieldLife here on
Yahoo-groups with the Ad hominems. Time comes now to do with serious
moderation or surely let the list die entirely. Seems a time has come for
action one way or the other. Radical action. Resuscitation or it dies.
Friends;
But we got a larger problem in want of a better decorum for FFL: Yes, by the
virtue of the new Yahoo-groups guidelines being placed over us we should
directly outlaw the ad hominem and name-calling forms of argument as lower than
the lowest and directly banish those who use them here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
Quit complaining. You sound like an
old woman with excess stomach acid.
Hey, how about an old man with excess stomach acid?
Actually, Buck's shtick is getting a bit old and particularly tedious for a
number of reasons.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Friends;
But we got a larger problem in want of a better decorum for FFL: Yes, by the
virtue of the new Yahoo-groups guidelines being placed over us we should
directly outlaw the ad hominem and name-calling forms of
Quit complaining. You sound like an
old woman with excess stomach acid.
Just start your own forum so you can
rule it as you choose.
Not willing? Then shut the fuck up.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Friends;
But we got a larger problem in want of a better decorum for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
Quit complaining. You sound like an
old woman with excess stomach acid.
Hey, how about an old man with excess stomach acid?
Actually, Buck's shtick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9T25SMyz3A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9T25SMyz3A
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Buck wrote:
Yep these people have taken toll the life spark of FairfieldLife here
on Yahoo-groups with the Ad hominems. Time
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , emptybill wrote:
OMG. This may qualify you for the coveted Pippy Mean Girl award
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Welcome back! Did you see the Naked Cowboy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_Cowboy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote:
Hey Susan,
Thank you for your suggestion about the Frick Museum. It was really a
hi-light of the trip. (the cab ride from
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly
failing. The lowest form of writing and argument evidently dominates
FFL with their diluting flood of the post-count of FFL. As an elder of
the FFL community here I implore
With all respect, Buck, I think your duties could be better served feeding the
horses. You have been inhabiting a planet in your head, lately, that I am
unfamiliar with.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck
which are getting good air
time.
From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:19 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL.
snip
there have also been many
more
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
With all respect, Buck, I think your duties could be better
served feeding the horses. You have been inhabiting a planet
in your head, lately, that I am unfamiliar with.
I'm in agreement. The fact that he won't
Dear Buck,
Welcome back, Cowboy! Y Haw
The only ads I am getting from all this great enlightening conversation
on this FFL Yahoo Group Forum with key words such as, mean girls,
below;
vvv A real Yahoo email side bar ad (and it ain't about homos or
anything added to em.)
Actually Obbajee, I think Buck suggested such a nipping once before!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:
Dear Buck,
Welcome back, Cowboy! Y Haw
The only ads I am getting from all this great enlightening conversation
on this FFL Yahoo Group Forum
Agreed that a huge percentage of posts here are ad hominum, and usually made by
the same people over and over and over. I think they enjoy that type of
interaction, thrive on it even. Not my style, though. And not at all the way
things used to be here, as you know. One solution is not to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly failing. The
lowest form of writing and argument evidently dominates FFL with their
diluting flood of the post-count of FFL. As an elder of the FFL
salyavin, in order for there to be ANY posting limit, someone would have to
volunteer to be its enforcer. BTW I vote for 70 per week.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Dear Rick,
Yup, I find a lot of the chatter here boring. Like Rick, I have a
filter that copies any message that addresses me to a sub folder on
Thunderbird.
On 08/23/2013 08:29 AM, Susan wrote:
Agreed that a huge percentage of posts here are ad hominum, and
usually made by the same people over
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of salyavin808
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:53 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Also, how is the weather out there this summer? Las Was this summer more
typical weather, hotter than normal, what?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
Buck, how is the lambing and calving and plowing and so forth going?
Susan, this summer has definitely been milder than previous summers. We even
had a cool spell back in July which is really amazing, but very welcome.
Another hot spell is on its way, with temps in high 80s, low 90s, and I'm
hoping it will be the last of the season.
--- In
@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly failing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
If the general consensus is to do so, we'll do so after Alex has
had his month's reprieve.
Perhaps, you missed it, Rick, but I made it clear in an earlier post that if
you restore the posting limits, you will need to appoint
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly failing. The
lowest form of writing and argument evidently dominates FFL with their
diluting flood of the post-count of FFL. As an elder of the FFL community
Grand Pappi Xeno, I love you! Hug hug hug.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly failing.
The lowest form of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly failing. The
lowest form of writing and argument evidently dominates FFL with their
diluting flood of the post-count of FFL. As an elder of the FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
Something radical, something different needs to be
done to save FFL as a spiritual and free place
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from
orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
- Ripley, Aliens
I like it! Sort of the FFL version of the Pandits. Every few months, Rick could
plead for us all to contribute, to bring more Enforcers to FFL, citing glowing
statistics of how the on-line environment has improved, as a result of busting
some heads.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Alex Stanley
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:50 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@
mailto:rick@ wrote:
If the general consensus is to do so, we'll do so after Alex has
had his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
Isn't that a bit like appointing the foxes to guard the hen house?
Don't know. Don't care.
More like appointing foxes to guard the henna house, if we all have temporary
TATs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
Isn't that a bit like appointing the foxes to guard the hen house?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
Agreed that a huge percentage of posts here are ad hominum,
and usually made by the same people over and over and over.
I think they enjoy that type of interaction, thrive on it
even. Not my style, though. And not at all the
I am sure we can elaborate on it, maybe with a recondite pun on Gehenna or
something. After all, there's more than one way to skin a cow.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
Damn, you beat me to the henna reference!
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote:
Agreed that a huge percentage of posts here are ad hominum,
and usually made by the same people over and over and over.
I think they enjoy that type of
Damn, you beat me to the henna reference!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:
More like appointing foxes to guard the henna house, if we all have temporary
TATs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
Isn't that a bit like
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
Something radical, something different needs to be
done to save FFL as a spiritual and free place
I say we take off and nuke the entire site
On 08/23/2013 10:50 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
*From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Stanley
*Sent:* Friday, August 23, 2013 11:50 AM
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count
@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count
on FFL.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@
mailto:rick@ wrote:
If the general consensus is to do so, we'll do so after Alex has
had his
, 2013 11:50 AM
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count
on FFL.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@
mailto:rick@ wrote:
If the general consensus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
If the general consensus is to do so, we'll do so after Alex has
had his month's reprieve.
Perhaps, you missed it, Rick, but I made it
It IS ON, Dude!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
If the general consensus is to do so, we'll
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count
on FFL.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@
mailto:rick@ wrote:
If the general
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
Salyavin wrote:
Let's go back to 50 a week and stop the endless dross.
If the general consensus is to do so, we'll do so after
Alex has had his month's reprieve.
Rick, if you don't have the time to look at a significant
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly failing.
The lowest form of writing and argument evidently dominates FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly failing. The
lowest form of writing and argument evidently dominates FFL with their
diluting flood of the post-count of FFL. As an elder of the FFL community
here I implore
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
snip
Yes, something radical. Well should FairfieldLife [FFL] at
Yahoo-groups be improved spiritually by outlawing personal
attacks between writers. Yes. You know, like actually
enforcing the new Yahoo-groups rules by
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