Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-06-01 Thread nablusoss1008
That's the reason why headaches are widely reported after doing mindfulness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : When practicing mindfulness, for instance by watching the breath, one must remember to maintain attention on the chosen object of awareness, faithfully

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-06-01 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM   That's the reason why headaches are widely reported after doing mindfulness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : When practicing mindfulness, for instance by watching the breath, one must remember to maintain attention

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-06-01 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LOL! Yes, too much internal television, leading to eyestrain, and headaches. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's the reason why headaches are widely reported after doing mindfulness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : When

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-06-01 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
For the record, my bet is that neither the Jim-bot nor the Nabby-bot have *ever* in their lives learned or practiced any form of mindfulness meditation, as taught by a reputable teacher.  Neither of them, in fact, seems even capable of distinguishing mindfulness from forms of concentration

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-06-01 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/1/2014 6:17 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And suicides and attempted suicides and various psychotic episodes associated with TM - I'll take mindfulness any day. There is no evidence that basic TM practice is the cause of any attempted suicides or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-06-01 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/1/2014 8:38 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: For the record, my bet is that neither the Jim-bot nor the Nabby-bot have *ever* in their lives learned or practiced any form of mindfulness meditation, as taught by a reputable teacher. Neither of them, in fact,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-06-01 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Truly a waste of time, except for wankers. All of these medieval meditation techniques, like this 'mindfulness', introduced by the delusional, as a panacea for modern life. Could it get any weirder?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's right,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-06-01 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Truly a waste of time, except for wankers. All of these medieval meditation techniques, like this 'mindfulness', introduced by the delusional, as a panacea for modern life. Could it get any weirder?? I wish I was as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-06-01 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's right, haven't tried nor am I going to. A Buddhist technique that gives headaches to large number of people is not only a waste of time but probably harmful. === People practising TM also report headaches and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-06-01 Thread nablusoss1008
Stranger indeed, the latest is that the strainers getting headaches while trying to get their minds full will be required to wear funny hats:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-06-01 Thread nablusoss1008
Stranger indeed, the latest is that the strainers getting headaches while trying to get their minds full will be required to wear funny hats:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-06-01 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Truly a waste of time, except for wankers. All of these medieval meditation techniques, like this 'mindfulness', introduced by the delusional, as a panacea for modern life. Could

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-06-01 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Of course there's the case of of the Principal of the all-girls Buddhist school in Thailand, who became a TM teacher herself because so many students were complaining of headaches after learning more modern (traditional) Buddhist techniques. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-31 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 3:17 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Mindfulness practices are often frowned upon in at least some Buddhist traditions. In fact, some Buddhist scholars say that mindfulness as a specific technique isn't all that old. Almost every Buddhist practices some form of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-31 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
And yet, as I said, some scholars say that a specific technique for Mindfulness is a recent inventino. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/30/2014 3:17 PM, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Mindfulness practices are often frowned

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-31 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 8:17 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The blog link on TM Mental Sinking is a hoot. Is is straight Gelugpa ideology where fear of losing the object of attention causes them to try to grip it tight and never lose it. You're losing our attention - just tell us

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-31 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
When practicing mindfulness, for instance by watching the breath, one must remember to maintain attention on the chosen object of awareness, faithfully returning back to refocus on that object whenever the mind wanders away from it. Thus, mindfulness means not only, moment to moment awareness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-31 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/31/2014 1:16 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: And yet, as I said, some scholars say that a specific technique for Mindfulness is a recent inventino. Apparently the technique was invented by the Buddha, Gotama, the first historical yogin In India, circa 563 B.C. According to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Mindfulness, it is also that place like after you have thought a sutra or mantra and you are sitting as just quiet in samadhi in restful alertness. Resourcing Awake in Being, then pinging the system with some vibration of thought as the mantra or sutra and yet mindful as what comes out of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-30 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
You seem to believe that TM = mindfulness, and while that might be the case for some people at some point in their practice, I'd suggest that TM is its own thing, and trying to drag other terms from other tradition into the discussion pollutes and distorts our understanding and potentially,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
techniques, after enlightenment? Yep, TM - I don't find there is any settledness that needs to be reinforced, or have my attention on anything - but I live a pretty active life, and as a result of my enlightenment, don't put a lot of boundaries on myself. So if I spontaneously end up driving

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Beautiful. Now that is where spirituality turns to sainthood in field effect. What you can do with a human system is way more than transcending, like also being of use in the lighthouse to others in life. -Buck for example, I may do a TM, or 1/2 a TM, simply for its ability to clear

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-30 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The blog link on TM Mental Sinking is a hoot. Is is straight Gelugpa ideology where fear of losing the object of attention causes them to try to grip it tight and never lose it. This fear drives their practise of mantra-japa and demonstrates why dhyana-samapatti is so admitedly difficult for