Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-05 Thread Mark Landau
On Aug 4, 2011, at 9:44 PM, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: BTW is this service Rory renders an hourly rate or is it billed by intensity? (Cat-o-nine with the metal tips only in the premium Mel Gibson package.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-05 Thread RoryGoff
* * Beautiful, Mark! Having myself undergone a dark night of the soul for several years, during which horrific time I lost the golden light of God and Master and my own soul, and my own certainties and special attainments, and where absolutely everything I believed in or held dear crumbled to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-05 Thread Mark Landau
Thank you for sharing this, and I agree. We do seem to be kindred spirits in many ways, though, of course, we part ways in certain areas. I'm glad we met. Perhaps our association will continue. Perhaps, too, we should talk on the phone sometime. I don't know if we could strike up a real

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-05 Thread seventhray1
You may have missed this one. But I think this soundtrack and presentation would go well with your little sermon. I enjoyed it and yes agree that it is overblown. But Charlie could deliver it well I think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLci5DoZqHU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLci5DoZqHU

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-05 Thread whynotnow7
I know a few folks who are looking for work. Are the voracious, all-consuming greed factories hiring? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: * * Beautiful, Mark! Having myself undergone a dark night of the soul for several years, during which horrific time I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-05 Thread Mark Landau
Thank you, 7th ray, nice, touching and somewhat hilarious, though in the context of his doing what he could to counterbalance what was happening in the world and the little I know of the toll it took on him, a little sad. How many eons have voices in the dark worlds been saying such things?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-05 Thread Mark Landau
At least one is hiring to replace me. On Aug 5, 2011, at 8:57 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: I know a few folks who are looking for work. Are the voracious, all-consuming greed factories hiring? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: * * Beautiful, Mark! Having

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-05 Thread RoryGoff
Yes, Mark, that sounds good! Feel free to email me whenever you would like to connect. And it would be fun to meet; if you ever make it to Fairfield, please be sure to look us up. I meant a priori in that Realization is even prior to direct experience; experience is itself the feedback or the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-04 Thread Buck
That is good. Take a look at Janet Sussman for example. There are others. Her teaching fulfills a lot of what you peg as a more secular meditational/spiritual non-religious practice. She has been at it for a long time as a spiritual teacher. You can google her name. She also has a page at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-04 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: That is good. Take a look at Janet Sussman for example. There are others. Her teaching fulfills a lot of what you peg as a more secular meditational/spiritual non-religious practice. She has been at it for a long time

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-04 Thread raunchydog
Doug, If you find out about a service for Jeff, please email me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: That is good. Take a look at Janet Sussman for example. There are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-04 Thread curtisdeltablues
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: So, you're outta here until the evening of Aug 12. Bhur hoo! OM MG! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: That is good. Take a look at Janet Sussman for example. There are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-04 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: So, you're outta here until the evening of Aug 12. Bhur hoo! OM MG! I'll have to have Rory give me 50 lashings for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip If I were to try to create a true secular spiriuality, I wouldn't recommend meditation that used mantras at all. snip I doubt I'd recommend heavy visualization techniques to folks just starting meditation, but again my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-04 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: I'll have to have Rory give me 50 lashings for missing the opportunity to say, The Buck stops here. The save counts, I missed it too. BTW is this service Rory renders an hourly rate or is it billed by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-04 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: I'll have to have Rory give me 50 lashings for missing the opportunity to say, The Buck stops here. The save counts,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-04 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: All this sounds vaguely familiar, I think I signed this exact document when I became a teacher! You left out the part of equitable relief if the contract (which we were not given a copy of) was broken. I appreciate your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality, the followup

2011-08-04 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: BTW is this service Rory renders an hourly rate or is it billed by intensity? (Cat-o-nine with the metal tips only in the premium Mel Gibson package.) I think we the real question we have to ask is, Is Mark an