--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Feb 24, 2008, at 11:04 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> >
> > > Reports of results on sidhis are mostly the kind of results that a
> > > developed
Yes, yes, Flowering Maple (why did you choose this
name, Abutilon?), caring for a dying loved one is a
great gift.
--- abutilon108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela
> Mailander
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I've noticed the same thing whenever I'v
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Are you sure that wasn't Herman's Hermits
When I think Herman's Hermits, I think:
"This door swings both ways
It's marked 'In' and 'Out'
Some days you'll want to cry
And some days you will shout. . . "
Amarnath writes snipped:
After full Awakening, in this phase,
"There is nothing but Self !
( which is Awareness, Bliss, God, Love,
whatever ).
In this "?final?" phase, "I am also my experiences."
But 'I' and 'me' are no longer "personal"
supposedly and neither is the Bliss
( it's of a different im
On Feb 25, 2008, at 6:35 PM, abutilon108 wrote:
My mother was the queen bitch from hell, and caring
for her during her last eight years of life (she was
utterly paralyzed) was maha tapas for me but well
worth it in the end as she dropped her "personhood"
and became pure love.
I've seen people
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108"
> wrote:
>
> > I did want to say, however, that the term "group delusion" has
> > come up in my mind about the TMO. I don't think it's any
> > different, though
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
> steve.sundur@ wrote:
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I know everything is linked when on a warm day and I lay down on
the
> > > grass and smell the warm e
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've noticed the same thing whenever I've worked with
> the dying.
> I've also noticed that sometimes there is amazing
> grace and the dying person drops being the person and
> becomes radiant loving and light.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "amarnath"
> wrote:
> >> I guess the other point I was trying to make
> > is that, for me it seems,
> > there is all this vast spiritual literature
> > that does seem to have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "amarnath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> I guess the other point I was trying to make
> is that, for me it seems,
> there is all this vast spiritual literature
> that does seem to have some basic consistencies
> which differ from MMY's dogma.
> Om,
> amarnat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "amarnath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > I'm not at all concerned with whether a doctrine/
> > dogma is "consistent" with Maharishi's. I no longer
> > value very much of Maharishi's dogma.
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ...
> I think it's a point that is lost on TB TMers
> sometimes, because they have been carefully
> taught for so many years that any deviation
> from Maharishi's dogma is WRONG, DAMNIT.
> And not only is it WRONG, it'
Nice quotes, Vaj, thanks for posting.
the following is from my intellectual understanding:
The advaitic self-inquiry approach,
which I have heard from Mooji,
would be( roughly ) to realize that since
"I" see/feel/experience the Bliss,
"I" cannot be it.
the inquiry would be
"Who sees/feels/experie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "amarnath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > I'm not at all concerned with whether a doctrine/
> > dogma is "consistent" with Maharishi's. I no longer
> > value very much of Maharishi's dogma.
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm not at all concerned with whether a doctrine/
> dogma is "consistent" with Maharishi's. I no longer
> value very much of Maharishi's dogma.
>
> >>>
SAME here !
I guess the other point I was trying to make
is tha
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "amarnath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Turq,
>
> THANKS FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL RESPONSE
> you have made some very good points here
> perhaps I'm a poor communicator via email posts;
> that's why i would rather talk via phone
>
> but, I am not saying that
Hi Turq,
THANKS FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL RESPONSE
you have made some very good points here
perhaps I'm a poor communicator via email posts;
that's why i would rather talk via phone
but, I am not saying that Amma's teachings are now the highest
for me and I tried to point out the FREEDOM I feel with A
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> wrote:
>
> > I know everything is linked when on a warm day and I lay down on the
> > grass and smell the warm earth.
> >
> Didn't you forget a Karen Capenter song going on in the background?
>
I hear Ka
I agree completely. Witnessing deep sleep and lucid
dreaming are both natural phenomena and they can both
be interpreted in a number of different ways.
According to the official TM line, "higher" states of
consciousness develop naturally without meditation,
but, allegedly, not as fast and not i
On Feb 24, 2008, at 6:00 PM, cardemaister wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> The only thing is Card, saMyama in the Kashmir Shaivite system of
> meditation has a different meaning than in the YS/yoga-darshana.
I
> believe the last acharya of that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
> wrote:
> >
> > I absolutely hated witnessing deep sleep when it first
> > started to happen to me, and I hated it for years. I
> > wanted the restfulness of obl
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I absolutely hated witnessing deep sleep when it first
> started to happen to me, and I hated it for years. I
> wanted the restfulness of oblivion back.
>
> Well, it didn't come back exactly, but it somehow
>
(snip)
>
> One of the traditional benefits of witnessing during deep sleep--
and
> one of it's hallmarks in my own experience (and what differentiates
it
> from dissociative or imagined states)--is the extreme rest one
gets.
> After all, it's through witnessing during sleep that yogis are
On Feb 24, 2008, at 6:30 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>
This is where I disagree with Maharishi's traditional interpretation
of the value of this experience. I think he takes these useful states
too far. For example witnessing sleep in a nap seems very restful and
efficient. Witnessing sleep at
If we don't practice it it runs itself like a
subroutine on the cellular level. That and a buck will get you a small
cup of coffee. Tom
Not in my neighborhood!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Curtis writes snipped:
> At fir
Curtis writes snipped:
At first I sort of resisted using a mantra since I do experience a
similar state without one once I close my eyes and let silence
dominate my attention. I didn't want to link the experience to my
past practice to hopefully avoid some of the conceptual baggage. This
worked o
On Feb 24, 2008, at 6:30 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
This is where I disagree with Maharishi's traditional interpretation
of the value of this experience. I think he takes these useful states
too far. For example witnessing sleep in a nap seems very restful and
efficient. Witnessing sleep at ni
I absolutely hated witnessing deep sleep when it first
started to happen to me, and I hated it for years. I
wanted the restfulness of oblivion back.
Well, it didn't come back exactly, but it somehow
gradually turned into the ocean of silence and bliss
they advertise in the tradition. I love it
From: "Angela Mailander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of
> Wilmington
>
>
> > I've noticed the same thing whenever I've worked
> with
> > the dying.
&g
do with a killer
parrot? Write a TV series?
- Original Message -
From: "Angela Mailander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington
> I've noticed the same thing whenever I'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Witnessing in activity is not my preferred state to interact
> with the world. It isn't even my preferred style of functioning
> with my own mind and emotions. This is a fundamental difference
> of opinion I h
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, I've had two different experiences -- one which I now call
"witnessing" and the other which I call "dissociation". I'm trying to
come up with how to describe them, partly to answer your question but
also to clarif
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I just don't think that it has all
> been figured out hundreds of years ago in traditional religious
cultures.
I'm wondering how much benefit can actually be derived from tradition?
How accurate is anything t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> authfriend wrote, "Could it have been what MMY calls "witnessing,"
> a sense of the separation of the Self and activity?
>
> That's *supposed* to be
Cardemaister, I really appreciate your attitude about all this
stuff; you're a true spiritual scientist, willing to explore
different variations on the techniques you've been taught. That
type of research is really valuable. I really applaud your positive
contributions here, thank you very mu
> Could it have been what MMY calls "witnessing,"
> a sense of the separation of the Self and activity?
>
> That's *supposed* to be a sign of the beginning of
> the first stage of enlightenment in MMY's formulation,
> cosmic consciousness (which is defined as 24-hour-
> a-day permanent witnessing
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On Behalf Of abutilon108
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 5:04 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington
I even explored injecting "om" following Rick's posts that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
authfriend wrote, "Could it have been what MMY calls "witnessing,"
a sense of the separation of the Self and activity?
That's *supposed* to be a sign of the beginning of
the first stage of enlightenment in MMY's formul
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > The only thing is Card, saMyama in the Kashmir Shaivite system
of
> > meditation has a different meaning than in the YS/yoga-darshana.
> I
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Curtis said, "At first I sort of resisted using a mantra since I do
experience a
similar state without one once I close my eyes and let silence
dominate my attention."
When I close my eyes to meditate, I am never
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> The only thing is Card, saMyama in the Kashmir Shaivite system of
> meditation has a different meaning than in the YS/yoga-darshana.
I
> believe the last acharya of that tradition, Sw. Lakshman Joo
explains
> thi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> Curtis, you said "That said, I do feel an increase of slight
> dissociation (not meant as a pejorative) and I am still
> evaluating the pros a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Curtis, you said "That said, I do feel an increase of slight
dissociation (not meant as a pejorative) and I am still evaluating the
pros and cons of this alteration. I am not assuming that it is
either positive or
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
"It goes to the heart of what does meditation improve or add to one's
life?"
Wow -- this is such a complex question for me when I start to think
about it. First of all, cause and effect seems less and less like
I've noticed the same thing whenever I've worked with
the dying.
I've also noticed that sometimes there is amazing
grace and the dying person drops being the person and
becomes radiant loving and light. Have you seen that?
My mother was the queen bitch from hell, and caring
for her during her
> People's self awareness and capacity for genuine introspection is a
> completely separate development from any "spiritual" practice. Some
> people develop it and some do not. (New improved by FFL version)
Doesn't seem to me that the development of these has anything to do
with "spiritual" prac
> Well, "container" is only one metaphor. I could perhaps
> describe my experience more like an increase in degree
> of resolution; my cognitions seem to be increasingly
> finer-grained.
The really helpful thing is that you are using a personally chosen
vocabulary here. I appreciate your taking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I did want to say, however, that the term "group delusion" has
> come up in my mind about the TMO. I don't think it's any
> different, though, than the shared delusions or illusions people
> may have as part of a r
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It does seem impossible to evaluate anyone else's experience.
Certainly our experiences, spiritual or otherwise, are colored by
innumerable factors having to do with our unique conditioning. I did
want to say, howe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Me: > I'll also add that when I was doing the longest programs, my
> > > mental functions were no better than they are today. If
> > > anything the years of practicing my thinking has improved
> > > things con
On Feb 24, 2008, at 1:39 PM, cardemaister wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Feb 24, 2008, at 11:04 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> >
> > > Reports of results on sidhis are
Me: > I'll also add that when I was doing the longest programs, my
> > mental functions were no better than they are today. If
> > anything the years of practicing my thinking has improved
> > things considerably.
>
Judy: > But perhaps the "container" was being expanded during
> those long progr
On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:10 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2008, at 11:04 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>
> > Reports of results on sidhis are mostly the kind of results that a
> > developed imagination can cook up,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Feb 24, 2008, at 11:04 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> >
> > > Reports of results on sidhis are mostly the kind of results
that a
> > > develope
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
> steve.sundur@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > nablusoss1008 wrote:
> >
> > > Very nice, thanks for posting this. Your patience has payed off.
> > > Unfortunatel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know everything is linked when on a warm day and I lay down on the
> grass and smell the warm earth.
>
Didn't you forget a Karen Capenter song going on in the background?
Thanks for this poem (below), and thanks, too, Ruth; I loved your
phrase and it really caught me up.
**
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I know everything is linked when on a warm day and I lay down on
the
> > grass and smell the warm ea
This post (below) and the threads on Kirk's and Steve's (and
Hagen's) experiences are what makes FFL such a resource. Thanks one
and all.
FFL seems like a great big paramecium and every once in a while it
gives this big jump(!) and a wiggle of the cilia of attention that
sure interests me. G
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Lemme throw this into the mix: Given that we all
> are or were practitioners of TM, is it possible
> that having recognized the need to distance ourselves
> from movement conditioning is a function of
> improv
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2008, at 11:04 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>
> > Reports of results on sidhis are mostly the kind of results that a
> > developed imagination can cook up, especially in the fluid and
> > generative meditation st
On Feb 24, 2008, at 11:04 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Reports of results on sidhis are mostly the kind of results that a
developed imagination can cook up, especially in the fluid and
generative meditation state.
Independent research on what type of people are attracted to TM would
seem to
"Lemme throw this into the mix: Given that we all
are or were practitioners of TM, is it possible
that having recognized the need to distance ourselves
from movement conditioning is a function of
improvement in our cognitive skills as a result of
our TM practice (whether or not we've continued the
> I hate to use the word because it might get
> people's back up, but I felt like I was
> witnessing something akin to group psychosis.
>
"Once upon a time, I, Chuang Tsu, dreamt I was
a butterfly. . . . Suddenly I awaked, and there
I lay, myself again. Now I do not know whether
I was then a m
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have noticed that the people here whose perspective I seem to
> gain the most from have either kept the movement conditioning at
> arms length,(Judy and sometimes Lawson as examples), or followed
> other POVs
Peter writes snipped:
Then bliss is like a dead dog in the road! Bliss is the darshan of
Brahman, but not Brahman.
TomT:
Yes but if the indicator is there then attention and appreciation of
what is going on in the moment surely leads to the understanding of
Brahman. Appreciation is the tool that l
> I know everything is linked when on a warm day and I lay down on the
> grass and smell the warm earth.
Wow, that phrase had such a wonderful effect on me Ruth, thanks. Here
is my contribution back in the category of "the natural IS the
divine." My all time favorite poem:
A Blessing
By James
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> nablusoss1008 wrote:
>
> > Very nice, thanks for posting this. Your patience has payed off.
> > Unfortunately it is wasted on this group of cynics who, like Rick
> > Archer said, hardly had any exper
>
> > > Those I know personally who do the full
> > > > program do not show me that they are any different
> > > > in positive ways.
> > >
> > > Different from what, in what ways?
> >
> > They just did not seem any different,
This discussion interests me. I have gone through these stages of
thi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
> > wrote:
> > Those I know personally who do the full
> > > program do not show me tha
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In my experience: Bliss is stupid. Bliss is dumb. As
> the bondage goes in this TM path there is tremendous
> bliss. Overwhelming bliss that grows and grows and
> grows...and grows. Then the siddhis start, not flying
> or tu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
> wrote:
>
> > Tell me y'all, who has found the siddhi's
> > experiences to be superior to that of 2 times 20 meditation of your
> > mantra? What is superior?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
> ruthsimplicity@ wrote:
>
> > Tell me y'all, who has found the siddhi's
> > experiences to be superior to that of 2 times 20 meditation of your
> > mantra? Wh
On Feb 24, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
I have to confess that I also had to brawl around with pretension
against reality.
I’m not sure what you mean here Hagen, due to English not being
your native language. Please restate the point if you don’t mind.
I don't know what he mean
I went through all the breathing and noisemaking stages too, although
eventually, at least at MIU, this was suppressed, which I think spoiled the
spontaneity of what was going on.
Later on, and that was the pity due to influence of frustrated and frustrating
people, that often people thought
I liked reading the experiences but sometimes hearing the additional
judgementalisms of TMers is rather insipid and shallow. Like saying - all the
flavors of awareness - and so on. That sort of copy paste pseudointellectualism
isn't well founded in anything. It behooves a seeker to not admit to
If you can live without bliss, without having been denying it beforehand, then
you are on a real high level of realization. But then I do not understand, why
all that previous debasing, as you seem to do would be needed. What you express
is somehow not rhyming.
In my experience: Bliss is stupi
On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:40 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
I agree with Amarnath that many people in the movement seem very
egotistical. Back on my 6-month course, most of the “great
experience” guys had huge egos, and were always competing with each
other in terms of whose experience was flashiest.
nablusoss1008 wrote:
> Very nice, thanks for posting this. Your patience has payed off.
> Unfortunately it is wasted on this group of cynics who, like Rick
> Archer said, hardly had any experiences on the sutras.
>
Could there be a meaner person than Nablus? I don't think so. And of
course it
On Feb 23, 2008, at 7:07 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Very nice, thanks for posting this. Your patience has payed off.
> Unfortunately it is wasted on this group of cynics who, like Rick
> Archer said, hardly had
Dude, thanks for sharing your nice experiences. I always enjoy hearing
them. I think most here are pretty well indoctrinated to not confuse
the path with the goal, and to not get caught up with the nice
experiences along the way. But, it's always nice to hear them anyway,
and share some of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In my experience: Bliss is stupid. Bliss is dumb.
I would agree only in the sense that IMO bliss
is a feedback mechanism, and thus just a dumb
instrument of measurement.
To me, bliss is just feedback from the universe
th
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On Behalf Of Hagen J. Holtz
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:13 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve
Martin of Wilmington)
Importance: High
I went through all
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On Behalf Of Peter
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:05 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington
In my experience: Bliss is stupid. Bliss is dumb. As
the bondage goes in this
I have off and on meditated my 20 minutes twice a day for many years.
I quit the siddhis course before I was done way back in the 70s and
walked away. I am sorry to say but my impression was WTF? This is
bogus!
Listen carefully to what I tell you know, it may be of great importance for you
and
In my experience: Bliss is stupid. Bliss is dumb. As
the bondage goes in this TM path there is tremendous
bliss. Overwhelming bliss that grows and grows and
grows...and grows. Then the siddhis start, not flying
or turning invisible, but that capacity to know and
fully comprehend each point of manif
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On Behalf Of george_deforest
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:16 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington
> Rick Archer wrote:
>
> BTW, Steve. Your greatest bit of acti
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Subject: No reverse gear needed (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of
Wilmington)
I’m not cynical about the siddhis. I’m just
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
> > IT DOESN'T DEPEND ON THE TEACHER, IMO.
>
> I think it depends on both the teacher and the student. To
> put it in simple terms, a "C" student will get more from a
> "A" teacher than a "
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IT DOESN'T DEPEND ON THE TEACHER, IMO.
I think it depends on both the te
> Rick Archer wrote:
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> BTW, Steve. Your greatest bit of acting was in "All of Me"
> when the bowl containing Lily Tomlin's soul fell out the window,
> and hit you on the street below, and her soul and yours
> began contending for control of your body. Laughed my guts out.
> Thanks for that. I wi
I'm not cynical about the siddhis. I'm just being honest about my lack of
experience with them. As I said, I may very well have been doing them wrong. Or
maybe my mind wasn't settled enough or my transcendence clear enough to produce
the predicted result. Or maybe it's a "different strokes for d
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On Behalf Of amarnath
> > "You are not your experiences" is the ultimate "Truth"
> > that the greatest Mahatmas and greatest teachings tell us.
> >
> > This is contrary to what MMY was teaching us.
> > So, why sho
more; o' well !
Amma Bless,
anatol
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> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:41 PM
> To: Fairfie
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On Behalf Of amarnath
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is that the ultimate goal is to find out
"Who you are?"
"Who is
Steve,
Thanks for posting your experiences. I also have continued my
practice in isolation - I spent 4 days last fall in FFld and domes,
but other than that, I've done program alone since mid eighties.
I also continue the siddhi program - I view the siddhis as a selection
of possible appreciatio
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Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:38 PM
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington
Very nice, thanks for posting this. Your patience has payed off
Hey Lurk,
You really didn't read what I said.
But, think what you will;
it's none of my business.
But, perhaps I wasn't clear enough.
So, let me try to clarify.
I acknowledge that Steve had
amazingly beautiful experiences
and bliss.
But so what? This was his first time in large group
with a lo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
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> Tell me y'all, who has found the siddhi's
> experiences to be superior to that of 2 times 20 meditation of your
> mantra? What is superior?
With the exception of Yogic Flying, I don't have
much in the way of exp
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
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> > Very nice, thanks for posting this. Your patience has payed off.
> > Unfortunately it is wasted on this group of cynics who, like Rick
> > A
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "amarnath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hi Steve,
> Why did you feel the need to post this to the group?
Translation: Why Steve, why, did you need to threaten the status quo?
Not that I mind that much. My heart is an OPEN BOOK, more or less.
Buulll
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