Perhaps Judy went into the bardo and has been viewing the mind-set of some
participants here. That in itself would give rise to renunciation.
Then again, viewing human life in general, with its endemic forms of coersion
and violence (expressed through countless types) would give pause to
You either get sick and can't stand the mental-emotional state of I'm for -
I'm against or Yer a vicious, lying axe-murderer or you are dying and can't
be bothered.
Take yer pick.
Here's the original post for The Power of Myth as Message # 171799.
Here's the link:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/171799
The link should get you to the beginning of the list of responses.
~ Spiritkin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
Please don't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What a coool thread -- all 35 entries! I, for one, did not know
there was a classification for my favorite kind of debating, where
people don't defeat their partners but instead support the ongoing
display of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@
wrote:
Thought I'd check in to FFL after many weeks of travel in
Australasia. Nothing changes.
Judy high horsing and calling someone she disagrees
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@
wrote:
Thought I'd check in to FFL after many weeks of travel in
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On Behalf Of geezerfreak
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:30 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Power Of Myth
Thought I'd check in to FFL after many weeks of travel in Australasia.
Nothing changes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Thought I'd check in to FFL after many weeks of travel in
Australasia. Nothing changes.
Judy high horsing and calling someone she disagrees with
dishonest and a liar. This just gets SO old and tired!
So tell us
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Take the hypothetical example of someone who grew up
listening to Wagner, and having his operas form their
personal mythos. They are full of conflict between
right and wrong, with right prevailing. The
hero and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
Take the hypothetical example of someone who grew up
listening to Wagner, and having his operas form their
personal mythos. They are full of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
Take the hypothetical example of someone who grew up
listening to Wagner, and having his operas form their
personal mythos. They are full of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
Barry, dear, just generally speaking, it's best not to
pick your, er, hypothetical examples from material you
know nothing about. It doesn't make
On Apr 5, 2008, at 12:54 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Five hours of posting today, your first oppor-
tunity to post in a few days, and you've made
19 posts.
In those 19 posts, you bashed the following
people in the following number of posts each:
Angela:
Obama:
Vaj: 111
Barry:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
Judy's been spending some serious time on the River in Egypt,
Barry, hoping against hope that there's just One Last Thing
that will either finish off Obama in the primes or in the
general
Sal, that's
On Apr 5, 2008, at 3:45 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
Judy's been spending some serious time on the River in Egypt,
Barry, hoping against hope that there's just One Last Thing
that will either finish off Obama in the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Apr 5, 2008, at 3:45 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
wrote:
snip
Judy's been spending some serious time on the River in Egypt,
Barry, hoping against
On Apr 5, 2008, at 4:48 PM, authfriend wrote:
On Apr 5, 2008, at 3:45 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
wrote:
snip
Judy's been spending some serious time on the River in Egypt,
Barry, hoping against hope that there's just One Last Thing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Apr 5, 2008, at 4:48 PM, authfriend wrote:
On Apr 5, 2008, at 3:45 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine
salsunshine@
wrote:
snip
Judy's been spending some serious
On Apr 5, 2008, at 5:06 PM, authfriend wrote:
If you can read, you know what you're saying isn't
true. I have *never* said I hoped Obama would lose to
McCain.
In fact, if I've said it once, I've said a dozen times
that if Obama wins the nomination, I'll work my butt
off to get him elected.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Apr 5, 2008, at 5:06 PM, authfriend wrote:
If you can read, you know what you're saying isn't
true. I have *never* said I hoped Obama would lose to
McCain.
In fact, if I've said it once, I've said a dozen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
wrote:
On Apr 5, 2008, at 5:06 PM, authfriend wrote:
If you can read, you know what you're saying isn't
true. I have *never* said I hoped Obama
What a coool thread -- all 35 entries! I, for one, did not know
there was a classification for my favorite kind of debating, where
people don't defeat their partners but instead support the ongoing
display of the fireworks. Gosh, I wish more people did this -- but
without gradually spacing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What a coool thread -- all 35 entries!
I thought so, too. And so I'll spend my last post
of the week perpetuating it. (I think it's my last;
it is by my count. If I've gone over, Rick, do not
hesitate to ask me to take
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that what the world needs is better quality
myths.
I must agree, Turq. I'm willing to stretch to accommodate somebody
else's story (like most religious stories) and make it work with my
viewpoint, but
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gds444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Turq,
I did some research on Ron Teeguarden and Dragon herbs. Sounds
really interesting. I contacted his office this afternoon. His
consultation fee is quite high. Do you think it's worthwhile?
Ron is an interesting
Hi Turq,
I appreciate the detailed response. I'm leaning towards a consultation. I've
spent enough time guessing which supplements are going to aid me in my
healing. I'll let you know how it turns out.
Thanks!
Gary
Hi Turq,
I did some research on Ron Teeguarden and Dragon herbs. Sounds really
interesting. I contacted his office this afternoon. His consultation
fee is quite high. Do you think it's worthwhile?
Thanks,
Gary
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In
Many of the myths of humanity are about heroes. And
many of those heroes prove their herohood in battle;
they are warriors. Do I see upliftment and inspiration
in tales of the warrior mindset? Sometimes. Being will-
ing to fight to the death for what one believes IS
inspiring,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All this is from memory so it may not be exact, I fear I may have
created a personal myth out of it to excuse my one-mallow
performance
in life. Actually I think I would have waited ti he was out of the
room and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Judy]
What I think both of you are missing is that the
Hero's Journey myth is a metaphor for enlightenment,
for the *internal* battle for Self-realization. The
Hero isn't triumphing over other people but over his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
It's a *fight*. There are things to *overcome*
And worse, they are parts of *ourselves*. The
enlightenment process is viewed as *adversarial*,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Many of the myths of humanity are about heroes. And
many of those heroes prove their herohood in battle;
they are warriors. Do I see upliftment and inspiration
in tales of the warrior mindset? Sometimes.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
[Judy]
What I think both of you are missing is that the
Hero's Journey myth is a metaphor for enlightenment,
for the *internal* battle for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uh, Michael...have you forgotten that you're
talking to a person who doesn't believe that
God exists? :-)
I had written an elaborate answer to this post, spending much time,
but unfortunately it got lost in
Barry_1 wrote:
Many of the myths of humanity are about heroes. And
many of those heroes prove their herohood in battle;
they are warriors. Do I see upliftment and inspiration
in tales of the warrior mindset? Sometimes. Being will-
ing to fight to the death for what one believes IS
Michael wrote:
First part yes, I think most religious people think
there are bad qualities they have to overcome. But
then it is GOD fighting the demons - not man!
TurquoiseB wrote:
Uh, Michael...have you forgotten that you're
talking to a person who doesn't believe that
God exists?
authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TurquoiseB wrote:
Many of the myths of humanity are about heroes. And
many of those heroes prove their herohood in battle;
they are warriors. Do I see upliftment and inspiration
in tales of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
TurquoiseB wrote:
Many of the myths of humanity are about heroes. And
many of those heroes prove their herohood in battle;
So Judy, have I won you over to my point of view then,
that Hamlet is about transformation and enlightenment?
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So Judy, have I won you over to my point of view then,
that Hamlet is about transformation and enlightenment?
Uh, no, I'm talking about cultural myths.
Really? And how do you define that? Hamlet wasn't
based on an old story that had been circulating just
because it has mythic elements? King Lear doesn't
have mythic elements?
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela
Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did a second try but noticed that I sent it to you personally
instead of to the list - through some new service. Would you kindly
repost it here?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really? And how do you define that? Hamlet wasn't
based on an old story that had been circulating just
because it has mythic elements? King Lear doesn't
have mythic elements?
You can find mythic elements in
Well, we're arguing about the definition of terms
here. Hamlet has become a cultural myth in the
English speaking world. Hamlet is about
transformation, enlightenment, and rulership.
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela
Mailander
[EMAIL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, we're arguing about the definition of terms
here. Hamlet has become a cultural myth in the
English speaking world. Hamlet is about
transformation, enlightenment, and rulership.
We disagree.
---
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I'm suggesting that this focus extends to the myths that
we revere, and that we should take some care about which
ones we choose to focus on.
Here is my myth:
I believe that the mind is structured in language,
Turq, excellent post brother! Really insightful.
One of the therapies in NLP was to try to extract a person's
internalized metaphors that were guiding their lives. Sometimes they
are unconscious but it comes out in language. So much of the business
world is driven with sports metaphors.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Turq, excellent post brother! Really insightful.
The power of other people's stories is one of
those things that storytellers obsess about. :-)
One of the therapies in NLP was to try to extract a person's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Finding out if life is here to enjoy (tip O' the turban to
Maharishi) or life is here to annoy is a person's underlying world
view can predict their happiness level I suspect.
Excellent way of putting it.
Life is like arriving late for a movie, having to figure out what was
going on without bothering everybody with a lot of questions, and then
being unexpectedly called away before you find out how it ends.
~~ Joseph Campbell
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
I'm suggesting that this focus extends to the myths that
we revere, and that we should take some care about which
ones we choose to focus on.
Here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Finding out if life is here to enjoy (tip O' the turban to
Maharishi) or life is here to annoy is a person's underlying
world view
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Life is like arriving late for a movie, having to figure out
what was going on without bothering everybody with a lot of
questions, and then being unexpectedly called away before you
find out how it ends.
~~
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Finding out if life is here to enjoy (tip O' the
TurquoiseB wrote:
Many of the myths of humanity are about heroes. And
many of those heroes prove their herohood in battle;
they are warriors. Do I see upliftment and inspiration
in tales of the warrior mindset? Sometimes. Being will-
ing to fight to the death for what one believes IS
All this is from memory so it may not be exact, I fear I may have
created a personal myth out of it to excuse my one-mallow performance
in life. Actually I think I would have waited ti he was out of the
room and rifled his drawers for the bag, another category perhaps.
There seem to be so many
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TurquoiseB wrote:
Many of the myths of humanity are about heroes. And
many of those heroes prove their herohood in battle;
they are warriors. Do I see upliftment and inspiration
in tales of the warrior mindset?
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