Yes, ‘Saha Nav’ translated the way the movement does gets used Both ways, over
the meditator in suppressing criticism and protecting leaders. Used on and
within the movement community and by the organization. Effectively these
phrases work a cultural suppression of conscience in the community.
I don't wish to be naive but this could be taken the opposite of how you are.-
don't denounce any fellow meditator or sidha rather than don't denounce those
in power.
In suppression of critical thinking.. While the MUM academic institution here
as policy is trying to cultivate ‘critical thinking’ as a skill set in students
it seems some otherwise are trying to suppress and castigate it putting up
firewalls to input and critical thinking in process.
A new
You know, the TM Hymn on Negativity
I should think it would make a nice unified code of conduct as an inclusive
guideline for posting on FairfieldLife.. Particularly for posting negativity
here on FFL. You know, posting on FFL is a privilege, not a right. We should
do more to protect
.
From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM hymn on Negativity
Yes, I suggest we adopt this more correct Saha Nav Hymn as a code of conduct
for posting on FairfieldLife.
-Buck
26, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM hymn on Negativity
Yes, I suggest we adopt this more correct Saha Nav Hymn as a code of conduct
for posting on FairfieldLife.
-Buck
You know, the TM Hymn on Negativity
I should think it would make a nice unified code of conduct
in our conversation here with mutual respect.
-Buck
From: Buck
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM hymn on Negativity
Yes, I suggest we adopt this more
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
We've suggested that many a time to Buck. It falls on deaf ears (or
blind eyes). And then he knows he'd probably be the only member. ;-)
On
and reconciliation in our conversation here with mutual respect.
-Buck
From: Buck
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM hymn on Negativity
Yes, I suggest we adopt this more
, 2013 5:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM hymn on Negativity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
We've suggested that many a time to Buck. It falls on deaf ears (or
blind eyes
.
From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM hymn on Negativity
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote
Yes, I suggest we adopt this more correct Saha Nav Hymn as a code of conduct
for posting on FairfieldLife.
-Buck
You know, the TM Hymn on Negativity
I should think it would make a nice unified code of conduct as an inclusive
guideline for posting on FairfieldLife.. Particularly for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@
wrote:
snip
So if someone appears dishonest, or
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:
R ( snip)comes to mind. : )
Excellent point. Everything I said is for people who abide by the basics of
the social contract and are not being malicious or going beyond the boundaries
of whatever context they are in. (like the
saha nau avatu .
saha nau bhunaktu .
saha viiryaM karavaavahai .
tejasvi nau;
adhiitam astu maa vidviSaavahai .
cardemaister:
Just for fun, 'karavaavahai'...
Recently in 1990, unverified reports of Sri
Chakra Geoglyph appeared mysteriously as massive
earth etching
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Xeno, was 1980(below) when Maharishi started using the 'invincibility'
language-ing?
Maharishi said 1977 was to be the Year of Invincibility.
http://www.globalcountry.org.uk/viewnewsletter.php?ID=20090723142634
He said 2008 would the Year of
Nay, no, that is not true you guys, you cavil me. Turqb a CurtisDb you got me
wrong.
We'd be nothing without each other here. I have nothing but goodwill towards
everyone here.
Image two guys between meditation here (a laborer on the one hand and an
intellectual on the other) coming out of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Nay, no, that is not true you guys, you cavil me. Turqb a CurtisDb you got
me wrong.
We'd be nothing without each other here. I have nothing but goodwill towards
everyone here.
Image two guys between meditation here (a laborer on the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Nay, no, that is not true you guys, you cavil me. Turqb a CurtisDb you got
me wrong.
We'd be nothing without each other here. I have nothing but goodwill
towards everyone here.
Image two guys between meditation here (a laborer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Nay, no, that is not true you guys, you cavil me. Turqb a CurtisDb you
got me wrong.
We'd be nothing without each other here. I have nothing but goodwill
towards everyone here.
Image two guys between meditation here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Nay, no, that is not true you guys, you cavil me. Turqb a CurtisDb you
got me wrong.
We'd be nothing without each other here. I have nothing but goodwill
towards everyone here.
Image two guys between
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
The world would be the better place!
First I don't cavil you. I point out your elitist triumphalism as a response
to your expressions of it.
Second, your better world involves more people who think as you do. That is
the
Every time you post something like this Curtis, it makes me want to quietly
join the audience during one of your street performances, for some reason I
always think around King Street in Alexandria (??), and watch and listen to you
play. Then of course I would step forward and schedule
I can easily imagine us both enjoying that Jim.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
Every time you post something like this Curtis, it makes me want to quietly
join the audience during one of your street performances, for some reason I
always think
Good post, Curtis. This may seem like a non-sequitur, but
it reminds me of a historical tidbit about Japan. There
is a segment of its history that from a Western POV is
described in their history books as poor, isolated Japan
becoming opened to ideas from the West, to its betterment.
That same
One difference in our views I think is that I am not espousing intellectual
relativism. I actually do believe that my view of Maharihi's teaching is more
right more accurate, better than Buck's. What I am advocating is a respect
for each other personally given that difference. I can live with
Nice Rap Curtis.
I've got to wonder if Buck really wants to fly in the domes. I get
the feeling that he sort of enjoys that the domes are out of reach.
Plus, I don't see how you run a farm and be away for a couple hours in
the early morning. I've always assumed farm chores are early morning,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
One difference in our views I think is that I am not espousing intellectual
relativism. I actually do believe that my view of Maharihi's teaching is
more right more accurate, better than Buck's.
Emily, are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
The world would be the better place!
First I don't cavil you. I point out your elitist triumphalism as a
response to your expressions
Alright. I'll listen to it :) Thank you for the instruction.
From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:56 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM hymn on Negativity
--- In FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Om Jeezus X-mas, they've been chanting it wrong all this time!
Well then, no wonder.
saha nau avatu .
saha nau bhunaktu .
saha viiryaM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Om Jeezus X-mas, they've been chanting it wrong all this time!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Om Jeezus X-mas, they've been chanting it wrong all this time!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Om Jeezus X-mas, they've been chanting it wrong all this time!
Well then, no
I kind of suspected you'd come up with the more correct translation of that
hymn. Thanks Cardm,
Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together;
may It nourish us both together;
May we work conjointly with great energy,
May our study be vigorous and effective;
May we not mutually dispute
You know, the TM Hymn on Negativity
I should think it would make a nice unified code of conduct as an inclusive
guideline for posting on FairfieldLife.. Particularly for posting negativity
here on FFL. You know, posting on FFL is a privilege, not a right. We should
do more to protect that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
You know, the TM Hymn on Negativity
I should think it would make a nice unified code of conduct
as an inclusive guideline for posting on FairfieldLife.
Particularly for posting negativity here on FFL.
We'll miss you.
I was mulling over a few versions of this post myself Barry, but since you
nailed it I can get off with just a:
what he said.
Favorite line:
Call the media. Buck has just suggested that Fairfield
Life be run the way the TMO is. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
You know, the TM Hymn on Negativity
I should think it would make a nice unified code of conduct as an inclusive
guideline for posting on FairfieldLife.. Particularly for posting negativity
here on FFL. You know,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
I was mulling over a few versions of this post myself Barry,
but since you nailed it I can get off with just a:
what he said.
Favorite line:
Call the media. Buck has just suggested that Fairfield
Regarding being true to one's nature on here, is there any other choice?
I was thinking about what the difference in self-structure is, between the
person full of thoughts about who they are, and the person with a rested mind.
I can picture my own experience as previously living within a sphere
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
Regarding being true to one's nature on here, is there any other choice?
I was thinking about what the difference in self-structure is, between the
person full of thoughts about who they are, and the person with a
Aha Renie the TMO songwriter beside Rick Archer have many nice innocent
memories of a long gone era- so cute -thanks
See how children in the K-2 kindergarten (4 years old!) chant Saha Nav
Avatu at the MCEE Maharishi Centre for Educational Excellence in
Lambakheda Bhopal India now
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
Regarding being true to one's nature on here, is there any other choice?
I was thinking about what the difference in self-structure is, between
Aha Renie the TMO songwriter beside Rick Archer have many nice innocent
memories of a long gone era- so cute -thanks
See how children in the K-2 kindergarten (4 years old!) chant Saha Nav
Avatu at the MCEE Maharishi Centre for Educational Excellence in
Lambakheda Bhopal India now
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
snip
So if someone appears dishonest, or contrary or fearful to us,
The Narrow Door
Luke 13:22-30
Years ago, before Korea was divided, a theological professor
from Yale visited a mission in northern Korea. He wanted to
preach in a country church, so the mission sent him with a missionary
interpreter to a rural Korean village. The professor began
his sermon,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
Regarding being true to one's nature on here, is there any
I don't think I buy that with regard to honesty. Surely differences in
awareness account for whether a person believes there is *justification* for
saying something they know to be false, but you really can't make much of a
case that nobody ever attempts to deceive others.
Thanks Judy. Yes, of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:
Aha Renie the TMO songwriter beside Rick Archer have many nice innocent
memories of a long gone era- so cute -thanks
See how children in the K-2 kindergarten (4 years old!) chant Saha Nav
Avatu at the MCEE Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Om Jeezus X-mas, they've been chanting it wrong all this time!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
I don't think I buy that with regard to honesty. Surely differences in
awareness account for whether a person believes there is *justification* for
saying something they know to be false, but you really can't make much
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
I don't think I buy that with regard to honesty. Surely
differences in awareness account for whether a person believes
there is *justification* for saying something they know to be
false, but you really can't make
Well, yes, but even among those who don't know themselves in the sense you're
talking about, some are more prone to deliberate deceit than others, no?
I see a parallel relationship between the amount of deception a person
perpetuates and the cynical nature of their being. Someone who has
Yep, two completely different worlds, one clear and transparent, the other
twisted externally to satisfy an internal need. Never the twain shall meet. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik
yeah it is an all or nothing scenario. No one is ever a little bit awake, just
as no one is a little bit pregnant. Once the curtain goes up, or falls down,
the reality experienced from that moment on is as different from the previously
ego based justification, as day is from night.
Even
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
yeah it is an all or nothing scenario. No one is ever a little bit awake,
just as no one is a little bit pregnant. Once the curtain goes up, or falls
down, the reality experienced from that moment on is as different
I calls em as I sees em.:-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
yeah it is an all or nothing scenario. No one is ever a little bit awake,
just as no one is a little bit pregnant. Once the
Based on your reply and some other evidence - lol, I am beginning to think
Sistahs generally awaken more quietly than Dudes? Probably related to your
direct link to the creation process, aka babies, and our making a bigger deal
out of any analogues to that we can find. :-)
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
Based on your reply and some other evidence - lol, I am
beginning to think Sistahs generally awaken more quietly than
Dudes? Probably related to your direct link to the creation
process, aka babies, and our making a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
Based on your reply and some other evidence - lol, I am
beginning to think Sistahs generally awaken more quietly than
Dudes? Probably related to your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
this is the translation, as I remember it. It's not at all like anything,
I've googled. For whatever reason, this is how Maharishi wanted us to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
this is the translation, as I remember it. It's not at all
like anything, I've
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
this
Thanks for writing this Ranchy.
It is archival in perspective
and explains a lot by context.
Saha Nav Avatu
Never shall we denounce anyone.
Never entertain negativity.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
--- In
I don't know if this helped answer your question, but it has certainly stirred
a few old memories. Anyway, thanks for the memories.
Yep.
As device
back in the 1960's and 70's when the movement was a
simpler place Maharishi would
stay almost entirely out of every ones ethical conundrums
by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Om, you Sanskrit scholars here,
did this get transliterated right?
Thanks in advance,
-Buck
Saha Nav Avatu
Saha Nav Bhunaktu
Viryam Narava Yanai
Tejasvi Na Vadhitam A Stv
Ma Vidisavahai
Here's ITRANS 5.1 from
Om Jeezus X-mas, they've been chanting it wrong all this time!
Well then, no wonder.
saha nau avatu .
saha nau bhunaktu .
saha viiryaM karavaavahai .
tejasvi nau;
adhiitam astu maa vidviSaavahai .
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In
It's one of the things I really like about FairfieldLife is that people show up
'who were there' and render the story more directly.
-Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Thanks for writing this Ranchy.
It is archival in perspective
and explains a lot by context.
Saha
A lot of the old actors around this now have either left, died or hole up
somewhere; but, it would be interesting to hear what those people who pulled
the levers were thinking to drain Earl Kaplan's money out of accounts that had
been set-aside to pay for things even as he was up front there
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Thanks for writing this Ranchy.
It is archival in perspective
and explains a lot by context.
Saha Nav Avatu
Never shall we denounce anyone.
Never entertain negativity.
Tell that to the Turq :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Om Jeezus X-mas, they've been chanting it wrong all this time!
Well then, no wonder.
saha nau avatu .
saha nau bhunaktu .
saha viiryaM karavaavahai .
tejasvi nau;
adhiitam astu maa vidviSaavahai .
That's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
Doug, this is the translation, as I remember it. It's not at all like
anything, I've googled. For whatever reason, this is how Maharishi wanted us
to understand the translation. IMO Maharishi's translation has less to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
Doug, this is the translation, as I remember it. It's not at all like
anything, I've googled. For whatever reason, this is how Maharishi wanted us
to understand the translation. IMO Maharishi's translation has less to
Thanks for finding that! It has been lifetimes since I heard it, and seems like
a nice one to keep around.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
Doug, this is the translation, as I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Om, you Sanskrit scholars here,
did this get transliterated right?
Thanks in advance,
-Buck
Saha Nav Avatu
Saha Nav Bhunaktu
Saha Viryam Narava Yanhai
Tejasvi Na Vadhitam A Stu
Ma Vidisavahai
Sanskrit scholars here,
what does this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Om, you Sanskrit scholars here,
did this get transliterated right?
Thanks in advance,
-Buck
Saha Nav Avatu
Saha Nav Bhunaktu
Saha Viryam Narava Yanhai
Tejasvi Na Vadhitam A Stu
Ma Vidisavahai
Sanskrit scholars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Om, you Sanskrit scholars here,
did this get transliterated right?
Thanks in advance,
-Buck
Saha Nav Avatu
Saha Nav Bhunaktu
Saha Viryam Narava Yanhai
Tejasvi Na Vadhitam A Stu
Ma Vidisavahai
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Om, you Sanskrit scholars here,
did this get transliterated right?
Thanks in advance,
-Buck
Saha Nav Avatu
Saha Nav
Doug, this is the translation, as I remember it. It's not at all like anything,
I've googled. For whatever reason, this is how Maharishi wanted us to
understand the translation. IMO Maharishi's translation has less to do with the
actual meaning of the Sanskrit words and more to do with the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
this is the translation, as I remember it. It's not at all like anything,
I've googled. For whatever reason, this is how Maharishi wanted us to
understand the translation. IMO Maharishi's translation has less to do
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