[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

“Neither a borrower nor a lender be; For loan oft loses both itself and friend.” ..said by Polonius in Act-I, Scene-III of William Shakespeare’s play https://literarydevices.net/play/, Hamlet. The character https://literarydevices.net/character/ Polonius counsels his son Laertes before he

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

In community.. and hurtful tendency exposed - particularly, that of coveting and grasping after riches. To obtain which, many of the members of our society had launched into extensive business - more particularly, in the line of commerce. And in order for the carrying it on, had involved

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Evidently there is a behavioral axis between self-interest and altruism.. and maybe not strictly related to 'consciousness', as we have seen. Hauptman’s Federal indictment is on the internet to read.. then also hearing immediate reactions with how other felons have been in the flock,

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

The Transcendentalists’ Morality.. In the ™ movement we were told some little details about Maharishi’s teacher Guru Dev, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati. About how Maharishi first met SBS and also about how Guru Dev found his own teacher. On advanced training residential courses with

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Of Spiritual morality and ethical behavior, inside Swami Brahmananda Saraswati's discourses the importance of moral behavior and the company we keep is very much a thread that runs through his satsanga. SBS groups together the study of spiritual works, cultivating transcendence (meditation

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

[ email reply.. This has nothing to do with being 'judgmental.' Just about everyone associated with the IAA knows that 'minding one's own business' has to do with how we do our Program. That is clear from the context of Maharishi's saying it on his talks, which we hear all the time. It may

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

What is unconscionable, in TM? "Thou shalt not.." Anything particularly unconscionable, hurtful, in the community of TM? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Transcendentalists’ Morality.. In the ™ movement we were told some little details about

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

What is unconscionable, in TM? "Thou shalt not.." Anything particularly unconscionable, in the community of TM? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Transcendentalists’ Morality.. In the ™ movement we were told some little details about Maharishi’s

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

The Transcendentalists’ Morality.. In the ™ movement we were told some little details about Maharishi’s teacher Guru Dev, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati. About how Maharishi first met SBS and also about how Guru Dev found his own teacher. On advanced training residential courses with Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

..A healthy embodied system on the map of Spirituality, and the ‘Behavioral Axis’.. Commentary from the Fairfield satasang “There is a horrible narrative out there about how unethical meditators have been with money dealings, business dealings, fundraising, and babysitters. At a minimum

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

“..A spiritual loss”. What, where and whose finer feeling? ‘Spiritual loss’ evidently is measured by experience in the human subtle system where spiritual morality is registered in effect. MMY advising, ‘Never do that which you know to be wrong’, carries moral import that is not just ethical

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Ethics, Later on MMY counseled a type of self discipline.. to be happy and mind your own business towards being regular practicing meditators and ‘on the program’ as a basis for behavior. This instruction would be a spiritual working ethic maybe different from social cultural ethic like the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Evidently there is a behavioral axis between self-interest and altruism.. and maybe not strictly related to 'consciousness', as we have seen. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : A hardwired morality of self-interest v Altruism.. In a core worldview

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

A hardwired morality of self-interest v Altruism.. In a core worldview that life is nakedly a selfish struggle for money and dominance the great act of moral decoupling woven through this in this worldview, morality has nothing to do with anything. Altruism, trust, cooperation and virtue

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

MMY would tell us, ‘never do that which you know to be wrong’. By a spiritual standard of what enhances or is withering to spiritual progress, certainly in life as we live it this would seem to say, repent those sinful ways that are hurtful to and against spiritual progress in your own life or

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

From e-mail: If one looks at all the criticism of the Mvmt over the years, most of it boils down to lack of 'development of the vertical at the expense of the horizontal.' That is a cerebral way to put it, development of consciousness at the expense of relationships, including ethics and

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Jai Guru Dev Thanks for saying Jai Guru You, as its in your heart. In some of my correspondents I would put the JaiGuruDev on top of the letter. When you used "there's a meditator born every minute" line. course that mimics the "there's a sucker born every minute" meme ,

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Evidently ethical behavior may not be correlated with 'development of consciousness'.. As in TM science research ‘moral reasoning’ is simply reduced and measured in standard testing as ‘quick thinking’ which apparently is not necessarily the same measure as ethical or compassionate behavior.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Interesting point. That does become a different discussion, Jai the Guru in you? As an observation and acknowledgement there is a reality to that. But then, someone appears in some unclarified unqualified way impersonating a what, a TM ‘Raja’ on a public forum related to FAirfied and TM? Is

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

What is Conscionable , in TM? Guess you answered that with "felt discernment" .When you say "You" instead of "Dev" in your letters is that ethical?

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Yes, evidently the heart of spirituality is embodied in the Polyvagal and affected in its expression by spiritual practices such as meditation, culture and epigenetic stress. It seems that In an awake conscious life, as transcendentalists call this, ‘a life well lived’, that ethical

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

e-mail, The way to address ethics is not to talk ethics. The way to address ethics is to address management (cultivated upbringing and as personal self-discipline). Management and ethics go together. When you handle one, you handle the other. So I don't preach, I focus on mgmt. Poor ethics

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Thx, the development of the Polyvagal nervous system (physical representation of empathy and compassion); appears to be (or can be) somewhat independent of the states of Consciousness mentioned by MMY. Thus, it does not necessarily follow that a person in (CC, UC) is well developed in

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Spirituality and the ‘Behavioral Axis’.. FW: a narrative: “People in the meditating community are not by any means fully developed, I see dysfunctional, disrespectful behavior often in and out of the Dome. I see people having a lot of experience of CC (cosmic consciousness) who often do not

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Moral reasoning simply measured as ‘quick thinking’ is not necessarily the same as ethical compassionate behavior. Long time meditators or gurus though potentially more aware are not necessarily more ethical. Ethics measured out (felt) in life by the spiritual body also is cultivated in life by

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

.. Despite their zeal, in perversity they perish. Om how humankind blame the Divine Pitrs. From us they say comes evil, but through their own perversity are more than is their due they meet with sorrow. Forewarned, for vengeance follows. The opening council, Paraphrasing, -Homer,

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Despite their zeal, in perversity they perish. Om how humankind blame the Divine Pitrs. From us they say comes evil, but through their own perversity are more than is their due they meet with sorrow. Forewarned, for vengeance follows. The opening council, Paraphrasing, -Homer, The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

I got through about half of it so far. Warning, the narrator mispronounces some of the Sanskrit terms and I don't think the filmmakers were all that knowledgeable of that tradition. Still an interesting watch. I signed up for 4 devices on my Netflix account which gives me 4K on my 4K TV. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Thanks for the tip on the Naga documentary on Netflix. I'll give it a look. They sure gave it a brutal 1 star rating, but I'll still watch. I like to see programming of this nature. Lately, I have been watching a ton of documentaries on Netflix, amazon, and Showtime. 2 on showtime that

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Communal Scruples? Asking around, apparently some individuals have been ejected from the movement community as sexual predators, copping, conning, using jyotish, or bullying a spiritual status on their victims. Some number of years ago a flamboyant guy who infamously was preying on MSAE age

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Would be, communal norms.. Yifuxero writes: The definition of unconscionable = doing something you know to be wrong? Doesn't make sense. ISIS killers are performing A-dharmic acts that they believe are right. Belief or unbelief in an action doesn't dictate the degree of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Good one Xif. I was watching the documentary about Nagas on Netflix and the Nagas were despising "mantra sellers." On 02/10/2017 04:25 PM, yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Conscionable = Dharmic? I'm still trying to figure out how/where King Tony became rich enough to purchase a

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Conscionable = Dharmic? I'm still trying to figure out how/where King Tony became rich enough to purchase a beach-front property in FL. The definition of unconscionable = doing something you know to be wrong? Doesn't make sense. ISIS killers are performing A-dharmic acts that they

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

Evidently there are some communal scruples that can operate along the lines of the Golden Rule as members generally may become adversely affected by some criminally asocial behaviors inside or around the TM community. Though the processes may not necessarily appear transparent. ---In