(snip)
Concerning giving the Clinton's more money...
Is there anyone else in any campaign that offered to pay of a rivals
debt.
Having gotten into debt in itself, shows irresponsiblity, and
arrogance.
Most of the debt is owed to consultants that helped her to lose the
election.
Did anyone
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(snip)
Concerning giving the Clinton's more money...
Is there anyone else in any campaign that offered to pay of
a rivals debt.
Yes, it happens often (but only in primary campaigns,
as far as I'm aware).
Having
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote:
[snip]
and the McCain people who are afraid of any
change and are mostly racists.
Wake up;
We live in a racist country, everyone knows it.
Just
(snip)
Obama's effort to pay Hillary's campaign debts might not be
enough to please Hillary. He should hold those funds as
leverage to insure cooperation.
He doesn't need any leverage. She wants to see a
Democrat in the White House whether he helps pay
her debts or not.
(snip)
Why
Obama's stiff upper lip during HIllary's long path of realization that she
won't be the
nominee, nor the VP, is proving he has wisdom, discipline and patience
necessary for the
job.
It seems that much of Hillary's campaign debt has to be paid back to her
wealthy
supporters who ' leant '
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016
mainstream20016@ wrote:
Why wouldn't someone with their own real power base be placed
as VP on the ticket ?
Obama wants his power base to be the only one.
On Jul 15, 2008, at 2:08 AM, mainstream20016 wrote:
On March 22, I wrote that when HRC is denied the Dem VP slot, an
indignant HRC will
team with McCain as his VP. She underestimates the public's
exhaustion from the never-
ending Clinton dramas. Such a move would be her Waterloo, and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(snip)
Obama's effort to pay Hillary's campaign debts might not be
enough to please Hillary. He should hold those funds as
leverage to insure cooperation.
He doesn't need any leverage. She wants to see a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
It seems that much of Hillary's campaign debt has to be paid
back to her wealthy supporters who ' leant ' funds after they
had already maxed out their individual federal campaign
contribution limit of $2500
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016
mainstream20016@ wrote:
Why wouldn't someone with their own real power base be placed
as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Remember, he isn't the nominee until the convention
nominates him officially. He didn't win enough
pledged delegates to secure the nomination; he'll
need superdelegates to make up the difference, and
they get to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Remember, he isn't the nominee until the convention
nominates him officially. He didn't win enough
pledged delegates to secure the nomination; he'll
need
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote:
(snip)
Obama's effort to pay Hillary's campaign debts might not be
enough to please Hillary. He should hold those funds as
leverage to insure
On Jul 15, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Tom wrote:
It's traditional that primary winners help the losers
retire their campaign debt. This isn't a new wrinkle.
You have posted this false argument before with no
support, simply calling it traditional.
That simply isn't true, as Sunshine Sal pointed out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote:
(snip)
Obama's effort to pay Hillary's campaign debts might not be
enough to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
It's not traditional at all, it happens, but it's the
exception rather than the rule, was the clear message
from the articles.
Sal, you embarrassed yourself on this the first time
around; why step in it again?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote:
(snip)
Obama's effort to pay Hillary's campaign debts might not be
enough to please Hillary. He should hold those funds as
leverage to insure
On Jul 15, 2008, at 7:04 PM, boo_lives wrote:
There's no tradition whatsoever of primary winners helping losers
retire their debt. There have been cases in which candidates on track
to win the nomination have helped out a laggard in exchange for the
laggard dropping out early and thus saving
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
It's traditional that primary winners help the losers
retire their campaign debt. This isn't a new wrinkle.
There's no tradition whatsoever of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that were the motive behind
her sticking it out for so long to begin with, putting him in a
lose/lose position. Don't help her out, look like an ungallant
winner. *Do* help
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote:
(snip)
Obama's effort to pay Hillary's campaign debts might not be
enough to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Obama isn't attempting to retire CLinton's loans to herself.
She's said explicitly that she's not asking anybody
to retire her own loans to her campaign. She's just
going to absorb the hit.
That's been so widely
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote:
snip
Every President has one, by going to the 'Center'.
(I think Robert meant to write won, not one.)
Problem is, Robert, Obama campaigned for the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote:
snip
Every President has one, by going to the 'Center'.
(I think Robert meant to write
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote:
snip
Every President has one, by going to the 'Center'.
(I think Robert meant to write won, not one.)
Problem is, Robert, Obama campaigned for the primary
on the claim that he was a *transformative* politician,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote:
snip
Every President has one, by going to the 'Center'.
(I think Robert meant to write won, not one.)
Problem is, Robert, Obama campaigned
Here's my prediction, for what it's worth: Obama in a landslide. Hard
to see how he could lose to McCain. I see a parallel to 1996, with
McCain resembling the hopeless Bob Dole, the old guy who trailed the
much smarter, younger Democrat (Clinton) throughout the campaign and
lost resoundingly.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
and the McCain people who are afraid of any
change and are mostly racists.
[snip]
...anyone who would make a comment like that is, in my opinion, a
racist themselves.
By labelling your political opponents as
Who do you think will be the Democratic VP nominee ?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote:
snip
Every President has
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who do you think will be the Democratic VP nominee ?
I haven't the *foggiest*, except that it probably won't
be anyone who has their own real power base.
Why wouldn't someone with their own real power base be placed as VP on the
ticket ?
Are you inferring that HILLARY will not be placed on the ticket BECAUSE she has
her own real
power base ? If you could determine Hillary's thinking at this time Is
she be thinking that
she will be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why wouldn't someone with their own real power base be placed
as VP on the ticket ?
Obama wants his power base to be the only one.
Are you inferring that HILLARY will not be placed on the
ticket BECAUSE she
With the mantle of being interested in doing what's good for the Democratic
party, Hillary
is thereby obligated to support Obama, no matter who is selected as VP, or
how... A
Private agreement that Hillary will refuse his publc offer of the VP slot to
Hillary - only in
Hillary's dreams.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With the mantle of being interested in doing what's good
for the Democratic party, Hillary is thereby obligated to
support Obama, no matter who is selected as VP, or how...
Did somebody suggest otherwise?
A
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
With the mantle of being interested in doing what's good for the Democratic
party, Hillary
is thereby obligated to support Obama, no matter who is selected as VP, or
how... A
Private agreement that Hillary
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(snip)
TV producers understand the psychology of the American public:
A former advertising copywriter, he sees Law and Order as a
brand. He
tells his writers that the series should be like Campbell's Soup:
(snip)
And which vision is that, pray tell, because no one knows since he's
flip-flopped on virtually every significant issue. Some will say he
hasn't gone to the center on many of those issues but the center-
right!
(snip)
Every President has one, by going to the 'Center'.
Americans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(snip)
And which vision is that, pray tell, because no one knows since
he's
flip-flopped on virtually every significant issue. Some will say
he
hasn't gone to the center on many of those issues but the center-
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Every President has one, by going to the 'Center'.
(I think Robert meant to write won, not one.)
Problem is, Robert, Obama campaigned for the primary
on the claim that he was a *transformative* politician,
not one who
http://tinyurl.com/5lecp5
(snip)
TV producers understand the psychology of the American public:
A former advertising copywriter, he sees Law and Order as a
brand. He
tells his writers that the series should be like Campbell's Soup:
(snip)
So, therefore, the Mr. Mrs. John Q. American will play it safe and
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