Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 6:13 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ammachi, Shree Maa, Karunamayi, Mirabai, Mother Meera, etc. etc. I will presume that none of these ladies are recluses since you are mentioning Ammachi first, and she is clearly not a recluse. Anyway, what happens today in India

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 6:37 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I should point out is that this is NOT an absolute in the TMO. Those of us who received the full A of E technique also received the mantras of the 7 dimensions and they ALL begin with AUM... There was no AUM in my

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
Right like bhu bhuvaha maha janaha tapaha swaha satyam? - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques Well there are--but there are four "above" it.On Jun

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 7:00 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 19, 2005, at 7:37 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: There was no AUM in my A of E technique. The full technique has the mantras of the 7 lokas, each beginning with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 7:41 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 10:56 AM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't do know of any other tradition which believes this Om thing outside of TM. Do you? No. And

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 6:37 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I should point out is that this is NOT an absolute in the TMO. Those of us who received the full A of E technique also received the

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 6:13 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ammachi, Shree Maa, Karunamayi, Mirabai, Mother Meera, etc. etc. I will presume that none of these ladies are recluses since you are mentioning

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 7:41 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 10:56 AM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't do know of any

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 6:13 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ammachi, Shree Maa, Karunamayi, Mirabai, Mother Meera, etc. etc. I will presume that none of these ladies are recluses since you are mentioning

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 7:00 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 19, 2005, at 7:37 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: There was no AUM in my A of E

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Bhairitu
bbrigante wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 6:13 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ammachi, Shree Maa, Karunamayi, Mirabai, Mother Meera, etc. etc. I will presume that none of these ladies are recluses since

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I think they mean to say renunciate not recluse. I once got corrected when I applied the term. From what I recall, MMY made the distinction in terms of social behavior more than anything else. Recluses don't deal

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread shukra69
you got the Mantras from Michel Angot? here is the page from Paul Mason website quoteing Guru Dev as saying women should replace OM in such mantras with Shree http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm#lifestory --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 8:12 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY once referred to himself as a householder when asked. It was on one of the more common tapes. Interestingly enough most people don't remember this. He had the most peculiar look on his face when he answered, as though he had never

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 8:53 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Courcheval, Summer of '75. Possibly the thinking was that Purusha, or precursors of these recluse groups, were OK for using OM mantras? Maybe. That wasn't explained to us. It was a pre-Purusha group. Mostly former 108's,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 9:06 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emailed my friend who's sending me these daily OM mantras: Some people on FFL are wondering about the OM issue (supposedly makes you a recluse). Apparently you no longer buy that, or you wouldnt be sending these out. My mantra (from

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, no. No it isn't an assumption it is just a lie as any honest reading of the quote of Guru Dev makes clear that you couldn't possibly honestly mistake it as applying to one woman only: aum-kara ka japa Repetition of the aum

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 10:18 PM, shukra69 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what exactly is aumkara ka japa? -- Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 Fax: 815-572-5842 http://searchsummit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 8:53 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Courcheval, Summer of '75. Possibly the thinking was that Purusha, or precursors of these recluse groups, were OK for using OM mantras? Maybe.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 11:06 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether these OM mantras in the Age of Enlightenment techniques were given only to Purusha wannabes or precursors, they stopped giving them out fairly quickly, right? And women never got the OM mantra A of E techniques, right? I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 11:06 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether these OM mantras in the Age of Enlightenment techniques were given only to Purusha wannabes or precursors, they stopped giving them out fairly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
Japa on Om. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques on 6/19/05 10:18 PM, shukra69 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:So what exactly is aumkara ka japa?--Rick

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Well, no. No it isn't an assumption it is just a lie as any honest reading ofthe quote of Guru Dev makes clear

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 11:24 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you have at least partially spilled the beans on the A of E techniques, would you be interested in saying if they were substituted for the twenty minutes of TM, as if they were advanced techniques? Or practiced for a couple

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
Bob, nothing you say about mantra is right because you're a pundit and have no understanding of even the nyasa of one finger joint. - Original Message - From: bbrigante To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 11:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 8:12 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY once referred to himself as a householder when asked. It was on one of the more common tapes. Interestingly enough most people don't remember this. He

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques on 6/19/05 11:58 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all Vedic caste based shit, and is not the Dharma of Liberation which is free from such meager and worldly fears. Amma said something like this too. That this OM prohibition

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-18 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shukra69 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and Siddha Yoga uses Shiva mantras. Hence why TM'ers live in the heads. Really? I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-18 Thread Bhairitu
cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shukra69 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and Siddha Yoga uses Shiva mantras. Hence

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and Siddha Yoga uses Shiva mantras. Hence why TM'ers live in the heads. Plus advanced technique users

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shukra69 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-18 Thread Llundrub
Plus advanced Sorry, I'm probably confusing some here. In general, mantra shastra divides mantras between shakti and shiva mantras. Shakti mantras are considered more intense than shiva mantras and therefore usually not given to the general public. This is held in a lot of traditions.

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus advanced Sorry, I'm probably confusing some here. In general, mantra shastra divides mantras between shakti and shiva mantras. Shakti mantras are considered more intense than shiva mantras and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-18 Thread Robert Gimbel
I'm not sure what Maharishi has said about the AUM sound; My understanding is it is associated with the Goddess Kali. I can see why, Maharishi would say that married women, should not relate toclosely: to the insatiable Kali. And the sound of Aum, Is thatUniversal sound or vibration

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-18 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what Maharishi has said about the AUM sound; My understanding is it is associated with the Goddess Kali. I can see why, Maharishi would say that married women, should not relate to closely: to

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