In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
this seems to be your only message here, over and over and over and over
and over and over again Vaj.
Empty Bill:
I'm puzzled why you might assume that Vaj's complaints must somehow be
rationally based objections. Any objective
i agree though I wouldn't include Barry in this very short list-- he
writes in a more experimental style, which although i disagree with
his conclusions frequently, he doesn't strike me as a Buddhist
zealot, unlike Vaj, who clearly is.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
your conclusions are sound-- i also see Vaj's complaints against
the evil Maharishi as just that, projections of his own
shortcomings and failures. i posed the earlier statement to Vaj to
see if he had anything to respond with. he doesn't.
and yet you bring up a valid point that when we aren't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
no_reply@ wrote:
the key is in Curtis's statement about the silence -experienced in
meditation-. by saying this, he indicates that the silence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry inmadi...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry inmadison@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
transcend
in all of the various Vedantic bodies, only the mental one, they
never really achieve true silence in the yogic sense, just a blank
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@
wrote:
That's right Curtis! Don't be buying into Barry's bilious
propaganda!
Since I actually started this angle of re-examination of yoga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@
wrote:
That's right Curtis! Don't be buying into Barry's
bilious
You are
expressing a hierarchy of human awareness with one
state as higher than another.
I'm saying that for me, it's a better state. Don't
put words in my mouth, please.
Yeah, Curtis.
How bilious of you.
The correct word is better, not higher.
Judy is better than you are for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
Let me jump into this attachment discussion.
I'd like to argue that you don't know what attachment is until
you experience pure consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
[Curtis wrote:]
You are
expressing a hierarchy of human awareness with one
state as higher than another.
[I wrote:]
I'm saying that for me, it's a better state. Don't
put words in my mouth, please.
Yeah,
Notice two points here.
First, Barry does not deny anything I said.
Second, he quotes what I *did* say about his and
Curtis's broken and needs fixing notion, i.e.,
that it was nonsense--precisely the notion he
claims in a later post that I was insisting on.
What is it about the fact that I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
Let me jump into this attachment discussion.
I'd like to argue that you don't know what attachment is until you
experience pure consciousness while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
Notice two points here.
First, Barry does not deny anything I said.
Second, he quotes what I *did* say about his and
Curtis's broken and needs fixing notion, i.e.,
that it was nonsense--precisely the notion he
claims in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Notice two points here.
First, Barry does not deny anything I said.
Second, he quotes what I *did* say about his and
Curtis's broken and needs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stan...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
wrote:
Let me jump into this attachment discussion.
I'd like
Judy wrote:
Y'know, Geeze, your (and Barry's) obsessive disses
would be *so* much more effective if you could rebut,
or just say something substantive about, even *one*
point in the post you're dissing...
I wonder why almost all of Geezer's posts start with
RE: and end on one line? ADD?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Notice two points here.
First, Barry does not deny anything I said.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry inmadi...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
Let me jump into this attachment discussion.
I'd like to argue that you don't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry inmadison@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
Let me jump
in order to attempt an understanding of enlightenment, the waking
state mind conceptualizes enlightenment as an object, with
conventional attributes and boundaries. but enlightenment is
unbounded by its very definition, without attributes and boundaries.
so when the identification of the mind
---great!...and there are stages of evolution beyond Enlightenment;
to begin with, some form of physical perfection then evolving toward
the attainment of a Glorified body. Of course, such evolutionary
developments are relative, but nevertheless possibly where humanity
is headed.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
The interpretation that the experiences gained by meditating
is the Self is not one I share now. When I was in the movement
I did relate to this interpretation, and did believe I was
experiencing what
On Feb 8, 2009, at 6:33 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
snip
I don't know that it should be looked at as superior. The ordinary
state of affairs is that our consciousness identifies with our body,
I'm not so sure about that. My
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
[snip]
Curtis - this caught my eye:
The states of detachment brought about through meditation
took away an ability to feel emotions fully. I don't
interpret that as a benefit. I am attempting to feel
more
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Feb 8, 2009, at 6:33 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
snip
I'm not so sure about that. My identity is biased
towards my mind and emotions. My body is getting
older but my mind and capacity to feel is getting
better. I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote:
You felt that then? That meditation was kind of numbing you or
something?
I think I re-started TM again about the time you began your
experiment. To be honest my experience is the opposite, if anything.
I have to say I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
snip
It's not that type of identity I'm talking about. It's
not vanity or preoccupation with the body.
Identification occurs with human development.
Identification isn't an overt craving of the body, but
a seamless
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote:
You felt that then? That meditation was kind of numbing you or
something?
I think I re-started TM again about the time you began your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@...
Me:
I think it alters my neuro transmitters which makes it very enjoyable
and addictive for me. So without feeling that it was doing more for me
outside meditation, I couldn't justify the time spent
Richard:
Try substituting
Let me jump into this attachment discussion.
I'd like to argue that you don't know what attachment is until you experience
pure consciousness while the mind functions. Any attempt to become unattached
through the mind is pure mood-making/manipulation which is worthless. Most
people
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
Me:
I am trying to figure out
why they made such a big deal out of something that
seems obvious to me.
Judy
Maybe it's because
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
It's not that type of identity I'm talking about. It's
not vanity or preoccupation with the body.
Identification occurs with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
It's not that type of identity I'm talking about. It's
not
On Feb 9, 2009, at 3:59 PM, geezerfreak wrote:
It doesn't need fixing. You're buying into
Barry's bilious propaganda.
In any case, all I want to do is get you to
understand what spiritual teachers mean by
identification. I think I've made a start
if I've gotten you to switch from thinking
it's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
snip
It sounds like a positive aspect of our natural
development
-RightJudy is talking about a structural property.
If we examine the content of attachment rather than as a structure,
it seems that Enlightened people are as attached as everybody else.
(examine their sex lives).
Thus, binding attachments seem to be ubiquitous.
A larger bundle of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@...
wrote:
That's right Curtis! Don't be buying into Barry's bilious propaganda!
Since I actually started this angle of re-examination of yoga terms I
believe it must have been Barry who was buying into MY bilious
propaganda! I want
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
snip
It sounds like a positive aspect of our natural
development and not anything that needs fixing
to me.
It doesn't need fixing. You're buying into
Barry's bilious propaganda.
What I wrote has nothing to do with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:
On Feb 9, 2009, at 3:59 PM, geezerfreak wrote:
It doesn't need fixing. You're buying into
Barry's bilious propaganda.
In any case, all I want to do is get you to
understand what spiritual teachers mean by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@
wrote:
That's right Curtis! Don't be buying into Barry's
bilious propaganda!
Since I actually started this angle of re-examination
of yoga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
It sounds like a positive aspect of our natural
development and not anything that needs fixing
to me.
It doesn't need
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@
wrote:
That's right Curtis! Don't be buying into Barry's bilious propaganda!
Since I actually started this angle of re-examination of yoga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
wrote:
On Feb 9, 2009, at 3:59 PM, geezerfreak wrote:
It doesn't need fixing. You're buying into
Barry's bilious propaganda.
In any case, all I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
It sounds like a positive aspect of our natural
development
If you believe that you are somehow attached to the
objects of perception and this is not the best
relationship to have with them then it is a problem
that gets fixed by yoga practice.
Not being able to play the piano gets fixed by piano
lessons and practice. But you have to want to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
wrote:
On Feb 9, 2009, at 3:59 PM, geezerfreak wrote:
It doesn't need
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:34 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I think this yogic identification theory is totally bogus. It is a
made-up problem. I am not identified with any object of perception.
I can be passionate about some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:34 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I think this yogic identification theory is totally bogus. It is a
made-up
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
snip
You are
expressing a hierarchy of human awareness with one
state as higher than another.
I'm saying that for me, it's a better state. Don't
put words in my mouth, please.
Are you saying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:
Curtis, what say you to Fred Travis' finding that long-term and short-term
TMers show the same overall physiological changes DURING TM but that
there
are distinct differences between long-term and short-term meditators
outside
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
If you believe that you are somehow attached to the
objects of perception and this is not the best
relationship to have with them then it is a problem
that gets fixed by yoga practice.
Not being
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony...@... wrote:
Curtis writes in this, I don't share his (Maharishi's) view
that the silence experienced in meditation is our true nature or our
real self.
Ouch, is that right? True?
Without the belief system mindset experiencing
Curtis writes in this, I don't share his (Maharishi's) view
that the silence experienced in meditation is our true nature or
our
real self.
Ouch, is that right? True?
Without the belief system mindset experiencing the silence of
meditation is not obviously my true nature or real
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote:
Let me jump into this attachment discussion.
I'd like to argue that you don't know what attachment is until you
experience pure consciousness while the mind functions. Any attempt to
become unattached through the mind is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote:
Let me jump into this attachment discussion.
I'd like to argue that you don't know what attachment is until you
experience pure consciousness while the mind functions. Any attempt to
become unattached through the mind is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, metoostill metoost...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
I think this yogic identification theory is totally bogus.
It is a made-up problem. I am not identified with any object
of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:
Curtis is assuming of course, his next life will be at least as good
as his current non-sucky life.
I am assuming that this is my one and only life and that the story of
reincarnation is a fairy tale like salvation.
What
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
Like you, Curtis, I don't find identification to
be an issue of any kind. I'm sitting in a cafe, and
a beautiful woman walks by. I look up. I look at her.
I *appreciate* the beauty. It does not inspire lust
in me (I'm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
Curtis is assuming of course, his next life will be at least
as good as his current non-sucky life.
I am assuming that this is my one
curtisdeltablues wrote:
I think this yogic identification theory is totally bogus. It is a
made-up problem. I am not identified with any object of perception. I
can be passionate about some things, but trying to paint that as some
kind nonspiritual way to live seems so contrived.
The whole
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, metoostill metoostill@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
I think this yogic identification theory is totally bogus.
It
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@...
wrote:
Beautiful post...yours and Curtis's. Put into words thoughts
I've had ever since leaving the TMO. And, as you well know
Barry, life since then has been utterly amazing. 6 years ago
I contracted endocarditis (infection
On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:34 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I think this yogic identification theory is totally bogus. It is a
made-up problem. I am not identified with any object of perception.
I can be passionate about some things, but trying to paint that as
some kind nonspiritual way to live
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:34 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I think this yogic identification theory is totally bogus. It is a
made-up problem. I am not identified with any object of perception.
I can be passionate about some
so like when you go to like Bruce Cockburn concerts, do you like
bring a pair of extra boxers, and like, scream, Brce!! and
like, toss your boxers at the stage?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
no_re...@... wrote:
so like when you go to like Bruce Cockburn concerts, do you like
bring a pair of extra boxers, and like, scream, Brce!!
and like, toss your boxers at the stage?
At least I'm not on record as liking The
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
snip
My point was that the idea that someone else have
a superior way of organizing their internal sense
of self, has lost its appeal. I don't see any
evidence for this claim.
Seems to me you'd have to live
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
snip
My point was that the idea that someone else have
a superior way of organizing their internal sense
of self, has lost its appeal. I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
snip
I believe that some people have more
or less
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
I'm not sure people long ago could relate to how our
minds function today. Compared to them we may all be
what they believed was enlightened.
Are you suggesting that most people long ago were
what we today would cosider
On Feb 8, 2009, at 4:19 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I'm glad you weighed in Vaj. I guess the word identify doesn't have
much meaning for me in this context. I feel my body and flow my
feelings through my instruments when I play them. But saying that
this is an identification doesn't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
snip
I don't know that it should be looked at as superior. The ordinary
state of affairs is that our consciousness identifies with our body,
I'm not so sure about that. My identity is biased towards my mind and
emotions. My
---.I fully agree...then the question becomes one of subjective
importance, AFTER a given assumption: that something, some transition
or quantum leap of sorts, takes place in Enlightenment or in stages
before that. Then:
a. the ancient Sages and/or Neo-Advaitins or globally, the Wilberian
Great
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
they are to be worshipped on occasion, have sex with your
wives, get free lunches
Whoa, wait a minute here! I didn't get this memo and now may have to
re-think my opting out of the whole program. This has more appeal
than not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I'm not sure people long ago could relate to how our
minds function today. Compared to them we may all be
what they believed was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I'm not sure people long ago could relate to how our
minds function today. Compared to them we may all be
what they believed was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
snip
Me:
I am trying to figure out
why they made such a big deal out of something that
seems obvious to me.
Judy
Maybe it's because what seems obvious to you isn't at
all what it's about.
OK, straighten me out on how
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I'm not sure people long ago could relate to how our
minds function
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
Me:
I am trying to figure out
why they made such a big deal out of something that
seems obvious to me.
Judy
Maybe it's because
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@...
wrote:
snip
C'mon Curtis. Are you really telling me that you're
willing to contradict High Horse Judy here? Haven't
you realized that Judy sees all, knows alland
apparently lives her life moment to moment here on
FFL?
BillyG wrote: If you read MMY's Bhagavad Gita Appendix on Yoga you will
find this comment, quote: With the continuous practice of all these
limbs, or means, simultaneously, the state of Yoga grows simultaneously
in all the eight spheres of life MMY HB pg363snip. I think
this proves
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:
A little lengthy but, it reminds me of MMY's analogy of the flower, we
see the flower (or a bag of cookies, works better) and we become so
identified with it that we lose the awareness of the Silence or Self
within, thru
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
A little lengthy but, it reminds me of MMY's analogy of the flower, we
see the flower (or a bag of cookies, works better) and we become so
identified with it that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
A little lengthy but, it reminds me of MMY's analogy of the flower, we
see
On Feb 7, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
You guys have book-ended an issue.
My favorite theory about meat-robot-programming is that 27
repetitions are required to get something to sink in. So here's
about the 20th time that I'm going to bounce this ball called
Identification.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
snip
Varela believed, and I'm sure many meditators of
different traditions might agree, that the neurological
accomplishment of lived human virtue (where it becomes
a part of who and what we are, hard-wired in), what he
called
oh stop that Judy! don't you know Vaj is far more comfortable
preaching his great (unintegrated) knowledge to all of us humble
supplicants? on your knees woman and be impressed! all hail the
great Vaj! knower of the self -- (oops, forgot to capitalize that
self word...)
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...
wrote:
I think this yogic identification theory is totally bogus. It is a
made-up problem. I am not identified with any object of perception.
I can be passionate about some things, but trying to paint that as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, metoostill metoost...@... wrote:
Curtis, your post resonated with me. A manufactured problem, yes.
And that last paragraph
is in my estimation a gem. That really when given the chance to
come here we all waved our
hands wildly saying me, pick me. And
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, metoostill metoost...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
I think this yogic identification theory is totally bogus. It is a
made-up problem. I am not identified with any object of perception.
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