Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-06 Thread Vaj
On Jun 5, 2007, at 10:53 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 4, 2007, at 10:00 PM, authfriend wrote: snip Here's the lie Vaj told: if you do a web search for 'Do nothing and accomplish everything' the phrase is usually tied

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-05 Thread Vaj
On Jun 4, 2007, at 10:00 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 4, 2007, at 7:09 PM, authfriend wrote: And all because you felt the need to trash Vaj. Actually not. Rather, because Vaj felt the need to respond to my reminder

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-04 Thread Vaj
On Jun 4, 2007, at 4:17 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Does anyone else notice the similarity of the Judyspeak below to the recent postings by Lisa and Joe? The *emphasis* is not on the relevant issue (in this case, whether TMers were ripped off by fellow TMers), but on establishing the person who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-04 Thread Vaj
On Jun 4, 2007, at 4:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: I'm not surprised BTW that New Morn, a TB, would fall for it. Wow. Vaj thinks I am a true beleiver. To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-04 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 3, 2007, at 7:03 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: I was wondering the same thing. I have a feeling that whatever happened with Great Midwestern was probably just a warm-up compared to Telegroup. I mean I find his premise somewhat outrageous, the more you work, the less success, the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-04 Thread Vaj
On Jun 4, 2007, at 7:09 PM, authfriend wrote: And all because you felt the need to trash Vaj. Actually not. Rather, because Vaj felt the need to respond to my reminder of his earlier lie by lying some more, again and again, compulsively, about his faux-Google search, until he finally got so

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-04 Thread Vaj
On Jun 4, 2007, at 6:28 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only way he knows how to deal with people is to try to manipulate them. That has never worked with me. Uh-huh. Who has just been suckered into making 27 of her 35

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 2, 2007, at 8:43 PM, boo_lives wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats an ugly non-answer to the question What happened to Ron Dector ? the investors bear ultimate responsibility, but i heard their sale pitch (cowhig, dector and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 3, 2007, at 7:01 AM, boo_lives wrote: Doesn't matter what Ron believed in. He had no business or technology experience whatsoever or basis for intelligently evaluating the process - his experience was with MMY which means he was trained to believe in outrageous grand schemes and that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 2, 2007, at 8:43 PM, boo_lives wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats an ugly non-answer to the question What happened to Ron Dector ? the investors bear ultimate responsibility, but i heard their sale pitch (cowhig, dector and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Peter
--- boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't matter what Ron believed in. He had no business or technology experience whatsoever or basis for intelligently evaluating the process - his experience was with MMY which means he was trained to believe in outrageous grand schemes and that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 3, 2007, at 9:57 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 2, 2007, at 8:43 PM, boo_lives wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: Thats an ugly non-answer to the question What happened

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Peter
--- boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats an ugly non-answer to the question What happened to Ron Dector ? the investors bear ultimate responsibility, but i heard their sale pitch (cowhig, dector and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 3, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Peter wrote: When I lived in Ffld in the mid 80's there were many people that had this type of distorted thinking. They thought that any business venture they undertook would work because they were siddhas. Most had rather rude awakenings when their businesses just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 3, 2007, at 11:13 AM, authfriend wrote: They lied or were simply unknowledgable about the viability of the technology to do so. Most likely the latter. I'm asking why not being knowledgeable about the viability of the technology would be funny in light of the potential profits for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 3, 2007, at 11:17 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 3, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Peter wrote: When I lived in Ffld in the mid 80's there were many people that had this type of distorted thinking. They thought that any

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of boo_lives Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:33 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda Are any of these guys living in FF or still have anything

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:33 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda On Jun 3, 2007, at 11:17 AM, authfriend wrote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 3, 2007, at 10:17 AM, authfriend wrote: Ah, yes, I remember all the Google links you claim to have found to get-rich-quick schemes when you did a search on Do nothing and accomplish everything. Turns out you made that up. There were no such links. Actually I was the one who did the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 3, 2007, at 10:32 AM, boo_lives wrote: None are in Ffld. I've heard that Cowhig has a real job now and even a girlfriend and is turning into a normal guy, positive but not fanatical about the TMO. the Governors investment thing happened in the mid to late 90s. Thanks. And I just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
Yes, indeedee. But I'd also point out, many others following the precise same philosophy have come on disastrous results without ever having read this book. My primary and first hand experience on this was from others who had this almost childish, movement-derived distorted thinking Dr.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 3, 2007, at 12:06 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: Typical TMO get rich quick scheme. I wonder how many other similar get rich quick schemes were inspired by the belief that since they had natural law behind them, they were invincible. I've not only seen numerous get-rich-quick schemes

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:13 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda I have absolutely no doubt that virtually every single one

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:27 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda Last winter John's sister Margaret told me that John had

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 3, 2007, at 11:39 AM, authfriend wrote: But if you read *just* a little further: I came to appreciate that hard work scares success away. Success, it turns out, is inversely proportional to hard work. In other words, the less you work, the more you succeed. Or the more you work, the

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:43 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda My only live contact with John Cowhig (other than seeing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 3, 2007, at 12:51 PM, authfriend wrote: He tells about the disaster with the ice cream company on his blog: http://tinyurl.com/2kolo7 And blames it all on others: I remember leaving for a three-week vacation to India. When I left, the ice cream business operated as a harmonious

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 1:58 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda I never interacted with John Cowhig, but as you know I did

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 3, 2007, at 12:08 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: Well said. The do nothing and accomplish everything motto was often urging such people on--and their sad investors paid the price. Although I agree generally with all the points Vaj is making here about Sidhas and their unethical behaviour

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 3, 2007, at 1:51 PM, authfriend wrote: It begins: I've have had more than my share of dramatic business ups and downs. I've had breathtaking successes. I've had violent train wrecks. I danced euphorically with friends one day and I've experienced vicious betrayals the next. Everyone

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 3, 2007, at 2:22 PM, authfriend wrote: When Vaj posted this several months ago, I raised my eyebrows. Uh-huh. But did you mention this in a post? I don't recall anybody doing so then, and they certainly haven't this time around. Uh, maybe because they don't swallow your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 3, 2007, at 12:02 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/20/60minutes/main1225184.shtml I've written about the tar sands on this forum quite frequently. There is more potential oil in Alberta's tar sands than there are proven reserves of oil in the entire world

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 3, 2007, at 5:14 PM, authfriend wrote: Don't assume that the world revolves around Google. Most of what I'm sharing will be apparent to those who actually have not lived sequestered lives but have some experience in the movement and the people who were part of it. (Lived

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 3, 2007, at 5:19 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 3, 2007, at 2:22 PM, authfriend wrote: When Vaj posted this several months ago, I raised my eyebrows. Uh-huh. But did you mention this in a post? I don't recall

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 3, 2007, at 6:38 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He tells about the disaster with the ice cream company on his blog: http://tinyurl.com/2kolo7 And blames it all on others: How does he (Fred) deals with the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Dector: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda

2007-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 3, 2007, at 6:56 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 3, 2007, at 2:22 PM, authfriend wrote: When Vaj posted this several months ago, I raised my eyebrows. Uh-huh. But did you mention this in a post? I don't recall