Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-31 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 9:10 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings . . .: This is Rama we're talking about, no? What I was meaning to ask you before was: did Rama ever give his followers (or just you perhaps) instructions on how they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-31 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 11:51 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Re I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings . . .: This is Rama we're talking about, no? Yes. What I was meaning to ask

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-30 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   Re I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings . . .: This is Rama we're talking about, no? Yes. What I was meaning to ask you before was: did Rama ever give his followers (or just you perhaps)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Like The Blues Brothers, MMY was on a mission from God. YMMV as to whether or not you agree with him as to the source, but anyone who thinks that he didn't have some sense of divine inspiration and mission about what he was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, do you think someone like St Joseph Cupertino, a Catholic saint who was also reported to levitate, do you think such people were also deluded? If he thought he could levitate but didn't then yes, obviously. If

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
salya,I think it's reported that many saw him levitate. Many On Friday, May 23, 2014 6:51 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, do you think someone like St Joseph Cupertino, a Catholic saint who was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salya,I think it's reported that many saw him levitate. Many It means nothing to me. On Friday, May 23, 2014 6:51 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salya,I think it's reported that many saw him levitate. Many It means nothing to me.  Would it if you had been one of them? I mean, ponder this. That's the situation I find myself in.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You think it's reported? What's the uncertainty? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salya,I think it's reported that many saw him levitate. Many On Friday, May 23, 2014 6:51 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 5:17 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/22/2014 4:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Marshy made me believe I could fly by sitting cross legged and hopping up and down holding my feet. I thought I was clever until then, I'm

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 5:45 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: YMMV as to whether or not you agree with him as to the source, but anyone who thinks that he didn't have some sense of divine inspiration and mission about what he was doing has taken denial in another direction, I think. It's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 8:46 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re : Watching old tapes of all of us around Robin during seminars is downright excruciating. : Can you post the clips on YouTube for the rest of us to enjoy? I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Judy, the uncertainty is that I don't have the documents in front of me at this moment. I'm speaking from memory. On Friday, May 23, 2014 8:37 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   You think it's reported? What's the uncertainty? ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
salyavin, I'm definitely interested in your answer to turq's question because for me, if I'm lacking experience about something, then another source of info is people who I respect. You seem to respect turq, or at least his views, so again, I'm interested in your response to this. On Friday,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salya,I think it's reported that many saw him levitate. Many It means nothing to me. Would it if you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
salyavin, do you think that the world's scientific experts on gravity know everything there is to know about it?! This is wrt your speculation that if you saw someone levitate, you'd think you were insane and then you'd get scientific about levitation. But your ability to get scientific about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You wouldn't need to have the documents in front of you. All you'd need would be to have read that many people reported seeing St. Joseph levitate. Which would be obvious anyway--he wouldn't be famous for levitating if a lot of people hadn't said they'd seen him do it (whether he did or not).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, do you think that the world's scientific experts on gravity know everything there is to know about it?! There are plenty of alternative theories to Einstein's - which is the current most likely option with plenty of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
salyavin, I doubt that St. Joseph Cupertino just decided to disregard gravity and float away! Ok, indirectly you're saying that science is not yet able to explain levitation. Thanks (-: On Friday, May 23, 2014 12:35 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
.  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh you guys are gonna love this one: I did actually

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
after I saw the BATGAP interview and he answered my questions. A nice guy, and lucky to have come out of TM addiction. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
to have come out of TM addiction. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh you guys are gonna love

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
after I saw the BATGAP interview and he answered my questions. A nice guy, and lucky to have come out of TM addiction. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
spent lots of time rounding and around Marshy. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?   Really, who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : In discussions with my friend Bill, who is the 40 year plus TM'er who recently quit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 1:38 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh you guys are gonna love this one: I did actually. Good to see Marshy talking crap again and it reminded me how hideous all the True Believers are with their fake, treacly voices and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
Where's the hatred in that? I never liked the fake I'm so blissed voices. Obvious mood-making and ironically what they were told not to do by the guy sitting in front of them. The sycophants are pathetic too Dick. Were you one, is that why this pushes your buttons? ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 8:50 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: But there does seem to be this strange phenomena of the being-around-the-teacher-too-much thing. It has not been established that MJ has been around ANY teachers at all. Apparently he never even met MMY. Go figure. ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 8:34 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: But even if the man (MMY) did not practice what he preached in terms of presenting himself as a monk I am not sure how that takes away from the technique of TM. Sometimes things work well even if the messenger is flawed.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?   Where's the hatred in that? I never liked the fake I'm so blissed voices. Obvious mood-making and ironically what they were told not to do by the guy sitting in front of them

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?   On 5/22/2014 8:50 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: But there does seem to be this strange phenomena of the being-around-the-teacher-too-much thing. It has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
of time rounding and around Marshy. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult? Really, who couldn't like Mark. Although he comes across now

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 4:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Marshy made me believe I could fly by sitting cross legged and hopping up and down holding my feet. I thought I was clever until then, I'm excruciatingly embarrassed about it now. So you've got to hand it to him as far as weaving a spell goes. This is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/22/2014 4:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Marshy made me believe I could fly by sitting cross legged and hopping up and down holding my feet. I thought I was clever until then, I'm excruciatingly embarrassed about it now. So

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
And I still practice all this stuff as regularly as I can manage. Go figure. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/22/2014 4:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Marshy made me believe I could fly by sitting cross legged and hopping up and down holding my feet. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Like The Blues Brothers, MMY was on a mission from God. YMMV as to whether or not you agree with him as to the source, but anyone who thinks that he didn't have some sense of divine inspiration and mission about what he was doing has taken denial in another direction, I think. L

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 2:19 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's easy to innuendo anything you want by leaving out little details. The one detail that is probably NOT in dispute is that MJ was never inside MMY's bedroom, or any where near MMY, ever, at any time and nowhere. That's a fact

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 9:50 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It has also not been established why you are not living in a facility for the deranged. I must have been around some TM teachers otherwise I could never have gotten my TM mantra - and as to meeting the Old

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 9:47 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richie is not forgiving us for forgetting to wear our hats shaped like a Buddhist stupa - we all know thanks to WillyTex that ALL things of value INCLUDING TM came out of some sort of Buddhist stupa. It's not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 9:32 AM, salyavin808 wrote: The sycophants are pathetic too Dick. Were you one, is that why this pushes your buttons? It's just kind of depressing reading all you guys sordid past history from 40 years ago and all the hard times you've had since then. He's dead - get over it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : And I still practice all this stuff as regularly as I can manage. Practise makes perfect, maybe Go figure. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/22/2014 4:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote: