Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread Michael Jackson
Anyone who reads versions of the Gita other than the Marshy version will know that Marshy distorted a good deal of it to funnel people's awareness to believe that it was all about TM. That's not what the Gita says. And marshy didn't write his commentary - he had a TM'er write it for him, Vernon

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread doctordumbass
I have thumbed through other versions, and talk about distortion - full of so much flowery commentary, that any scientific value is lost. Maharishi commented on the book, and I could figure out what the hell it was about. All the other translations are, from an intellectual standpoint,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread nablusoss1008
My (wild) guess is that a release-date for his commentaries 7 - 18 is set in his will, just as the commentaries to the Yoga Sutras.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/25/2014 6:37 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: Vernon Katz I think it was. Apparently MMY was fluent in at least two languages other than English. So, he probably started reading the Hindu scriptures by the time he was in grade school. From what I've read, MMY could easly have learned to read

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread authfriend
Maharishi didn't just sort of send Vernon Katz off on his own to write the commentary from scratch. According to Katz, it was an extremely close day-to-day collaboration, with Maharishi supplying the thoughts and he and Katz deciding together how to put them into words on the page. That's not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread authfriend
Transliteration is the wrong term. It means to represent or spell in the characters of another alphabet. Only the occasional Sanskrit term in the commentary of Maharishi's Gita is transliterated from the Devanagari to the Latin alphabet (e.g., niryogakshema in the commentary on II:45). Katz

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread anartaxius
Maharishi's version does show some interesting deviations from other translations, such as rendering maha as 'subtle' rather than 'great' when in the context of meditation. I think, as far as it went, since it is incomplete, it is an insightful translation. Vernon Katz told me once he had all

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread nablusoss1008
Maharishi didn't just sort of send Vernon Katz off on his own to write the commentary from scratch. Maharishi needed Vernon for his masterly English.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread Share Long
In Vernon's book Conversations With Maharishi, Vol 1, it's clear that Vernon also plays a vital role in asking insightful questions that help bring out finer and finer details of an amazing body of knowledge. As well, Vernon has a sense of humor that complements Maharishi's own. Even in written

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
Anyone who reads versions of the Gita other than the Marshy version will know that Marshy distorted a good deal of it to funnel people's awareness to believe that it was all about TM. That's not what the Gita says. And marshy didn't write his commentary - he had a TM'er write it for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/25/2014 10:11 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Maharishi needed Vernon for his masterly English. From what I've read, Vernon Katz and Tony Nader can both read, write and speak Sanskrit like it was their mother tongue. I wouldn't be surprised if MMY could read all the Hindu scriptures in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread authfriend
And Katz's scholarly knowledge of Sanskrit. He wouldn't have been much help on the translation otherwise. Years ago I read a piece by--or an interview with, can't remember--Katz talking about working with Maharishi on the Gita. It was beautiful; I wish I could find it again. Their

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread authfriend
If you read the post you quote, you know I did have such comments. As I also pointed out, there are only occasional transliterations of Sanskrit terms here and there in the commentary of Maharishi's Gita version. It provides the text of the Gita in Devanagari and then in English translation,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread Michael Jackson
thank Vernon Katz for that, and you understand it because it corroborates your TM is God mind set On Tue, 2/25/14, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread Michael Jackson
Jerry Jarvis has a copy - he has quoted from it to my friend Bill over the phone On Tue, 2/25/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy To: FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread Michael Jackson
I didn't say he wrote it by himself On Tue, 2/25/14, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy

2014-02-25 Thread authfriend
C'mon--Marshy didn't write his commentary - he had a TM'er write it for him sure doesn't convey the idea of a collaboration. It sure does sound as if you're saying Katz wrote it by himself, whether you used those exact words or not. I didn't say he wrote it by himself Maharishi didn't just