[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi refuses to Levitate.??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hmmm... how big a difference would it make if > > > > one translated "samaadhau" to 'in samaadhi' instead > > > > of 'to samaadhi'? I seem to recall that Vyaasa or > > > > Bhoja comments that siddhis tend to make samaadhi weaker, but > they > > > > don't obstruct it alltogether (provided I've understood > > > > the Sanskrit approximately correctly). > > > > > > Don't know nuttin' about the Sanskrit, but recall > > > that according to MMY, the function of practicing > > > the TM-Sidhis is to "challenge" samadhi, as with > > > the metaphor of the sun fading the yellow dye in the > > > context of plain-vanilla TM. Activity following > > > meditation "challenges" the samadhi that remains > > > after meditation, which ultimately results in > > > strengthening it and making it permanent. > > > > > > The intense color of the dye when the cloth comes > > > out of the dye vat is "weakened" by the sun, but > > > what remains is what has become permanent. The > > > permanent part is added to incrementally with each > > > dip into the vat until it's all permanent. But > > > that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't "weakened" > > > by the sun each time. > > > > > > Don't know if this has anything to do with it, but > > > the possible parallel struck me as interesting. > > > > The sidhis challenge/weaken samadhi on the most fundamental level > > possible. > > You know, I never connected the yellow dye analogy > with the TM-Sidhis' "challenge" to samadhi before; > I sure don't recall the parallel being part of what > we were taught about the techniques. It was eki's > mention of "weakening" that made me think of it. > Now it seems obvious. Did I just miss that part? There are a couple of points that seem to suggest that the "shithilii" (weak, or whatever) applies mainly to the effect of the suutra(s) on finest(I guess that's the adjective in English; below "supernormal") senses. Here's one translation of the relevant suutras: http://hrih.net/patanjali/library/3.htm 35. Experience (of pleasure or pain) arises from a conception which does not distinguish between the two extremely different entities, viz. Buddhisattva and Purusha. Such experience exists for another (i.e. Purusha). That is why through Samyama on Purusha (who oversees all experiences and also their complete cessation), a knowledge regarding Purusha is acquired. 36. Thence (from the knowledge of Purusha) arise Pratibha (prescience), Sravana (supernormal power of hearing), Vedana (supernormal power of touch), Adarsa (supernormal power of sight), Asvada (supernormal poker of taste) and Varta (supernormal power of smell). 37. They (these powers) are impediments to Samadhi, but are (regarded as) acquisitions in a normal fluctuating state of the mind. (I left the typo on that page [poker] because it felt so funny...) Now, Vyaasa's commentary on 37. begins like this: te praatibhaadayaH samaahita-cittasyotpadyamaanaa... Vyaasa seems to make clear that the demonstrative pronoun "te" in 37, "te samaadhaav upasargaa..." refers *only* to "praatibha" , "shravana", etc, because he uses the expression "aadayaH" which is nominative plurar of "aadi" which in turn means 'beginning', meaning that "te" refers to a list(or something) that begins with "praatibha". For instance "indraadayaH" means 'Indra, etc.'( I guess, Indra and the other devas). The compound "samaahita-citta" obviously means something like 'citta in samaadhi', because "samaahita"* is the perfect participle from the verb "samaadhaa", that's related to the noun "samaadhi". And "cittasyotpadyamaanaa" is sandhi for "cittasya + utpadyamaanaa". The verb "ut-pat" from which "utpadyamaanaa(H)" is, I believe, the present participle, means something like "raise" so "samaahita-cittasyotpadyamaanaa(H)" would mean something like 'raising the mind out of samaadhi'. If something of that is messy I might try to explain it in some other way... *) like "saMhitaa" is related to "saMdhi" (sandhi). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
[FairfieldLife] Peter Sutphen has passed away.
A moment of silence please as it has come to our attention that Peter Sutphen has passed away. We deeply regret his passing and lament his once bright but now faded light... Anyone posing as Peter Sutphen on this group, should be ignored as we know it is a scam and shameless, dishonoring his memory. OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > 'Behold the nose that mars the harmony > > > Of its master's phiz! blushing its treachery!' > > > --Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said, > > > Had you of wit or letters the least jot... > > > > > > --Edmond Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac" > > > > Beautiful! > > Old-fashioned, but fun. I suspect the original > French is full of puns and wordplay that the > English translation doesn't even hint at. You are correct. The French are ga-ga over word puns and wordplay, and this speech is to die for. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > And what are those Nosers of Reality all about? > > > > I think Socrates nailed it when he said "nose thyself". > > > > But as I always say, what my girl friend doesn't nose won't hurt > > her. > > > > Reveal thy wisdom unto me. I wants to nose. > > A nosological primer: Or Steve Martin's version of the same thing, from the film "Roxanne" -- 1. Obvious: Excuse me. Is that your nose or did a bus park on your face. 2. Meteorological: Everybody take cover. She's going to blow. 3. Fashionable: You know, you could de-emphasize your nose if you wore something larger. Like ... Wyoming. 4. Personal: Well, here we are. Just the three of us. 5. Punctual: Alright gentlemen. Your nose was on time but you were fifteen minutes late. 6. Envious: Oooo, I wish I were you. Gosh. To be able to smell your own ear. 7. Naughty: Pardon me, Sir. Some of the ladies have asked if you wouldn't mind putting that thing away. 8. Philosophical: You know. It's not the size of a nose that's important. It's what's in it that matters. 9. Humorous: Laugh and the world laughs with you. Sneeze and it's goodbye Seattle. 10. Commercial: Hi, I'm Earl Schibe and I can paint that nose for $39.95. 11. Polite: Ah. Would you mind not bobbing your head. The orchestra keeps changing tempo. 12. Melodic: Everybody! "He's got the whole world in his nose." 13. Sympathetic: Oh, What happened? Did your parents lose a bet with God? 14. Complimentary: You must love the little birdies to give them this to perch on. 15. Scientific: Say, does that thing there influence the tides. 16. Obscure: Oh, I'd hate to see the grindstone. 17. Inquiry: When you stop to smell the flowers, are they afraid? 18. French: Say, the pigs have refused to find any more truffles until you leave. 19. Pornographic: Finally, a man who can satisfy two women at once. 20. Religious: The Lord giveth and He just kept on giving, didn't He. 21. Disgusting: Say, who mows your nose hair. 22. Paranoid: Keep that guy away from my cocaine! 23. Aromatic: It must be wonderful to wake up in the morning and smell the coffee ... in Brazil. 24. Appreciative: Oooo, how original. Most people just have their teeth capped. 25. Dirty: Your name wouldn't be Dick, would it? > ...You might have said at least a hundred things > By varying the tone. . .like this, suppose,. . . > Aggressive: 'Sir, if I had such a nose > I'd amputate it!' Friendly: 'When you sup > It must annoy you, dipping in your cup; > You need a drinking-bowl of special shape!' > Descriptive: ''Tis a rock!. . .a peak!. . .a cape! > --A cape, forsooth! 'Tis a peninsular!' > Curious: 'How serves that oblong capsular? > For scissor-sheath? Or pot to hold your ink?' > Gracious: 'You love the little birds, I think? > I see you've managed with a fond research > To find their tiny claws a roomy perch!' > Truculent: 'When you smoke your pipe. . .suppose > That the tobacco-smoke spouts from your nose-- > Do not the neighbors, as the fumes rise higher, > Cry terror-struck: "The chimney is afire"?' > Considerate: 'Take care,. . .your head bowed low > By such a weight. . .lest head o'er heels you go!' > Tender: 'Pray get a small umbrella made, > Lest its bright color in the sun should fade!' > Pedantic: 'That beast Aristophanes > Names Hippocamelelephantoles > Must have possessed just such a solid lump > Of flesh and bone, beneath his forehead's bump!' > Cavalier: 'The last fashion, friend, that hook? > To hang your hat on? 'Tis a useful crook!' > Emphatic: 'No wind, O majestic nose, > Can give THEE cold!--save when the mistral blows!' > Dramatic: 'When it bleeds, what a Red Sea!' > Admiring: 'Sign for a perfumery!' > Lyric: 'Is this a conch?. . .a Triton you?' > Simple: 'When is the monument on view?' > Rustic: 'That thing a nose? Marry-come-up! > 'Tis a dwarf pumpkin, or a prize turnip!' > Military: 'Point against cavalry!' > Practical: 'Put it in a lottery! > Assuredly 'twould be the biggest prize!' > Or. . .parodying Pyramus' sighs. . . > 'Behold the nose that mars the harmony > Of its master's phiz! blushing its treachery!' > --Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said, > Had you of wit or letters the least jot... > > --Edmond Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Pall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear friends from around the world, > > Mother Divine 9 days (Oct-4-12) > for wealth, prosperity, health, longevity, knowledge and intelligence. > By awakening human awareness , 9 days will help all aspects of life... > the five senses, mind, intellect and ego...Those 9 days Yagnas will > support prosperity & fulfillment, help increase wealth, support > spiritual progress, gain knowledge, clear intellect, improvement of > memory, peace of mind, good for education, improve influence in > society, increase harmony in married life, help remove big problems, > help find suitable job, support success in business, fulfillment of > desires, removal of fears, help remove illness, improvement of health, > help prevent danger, help peaceful sleep, overall progress, improve > relationship, remove obstacles, help finding suitable spouse, free > from obstacles, support in court case, support in better life... Wow. It sounds just like TM, without the sitting with your eyes closed and all. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
> > Scientists make lousy philosophers of science, >>> And that may be the only true statement ever made. OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > They sure knew how to do insults in those days... > > Just the use of the language is what I find amazing- overwhelming, > even. Like Shakespeare, who I find to be the greatest English writer > of all time, but can only read about a page of his at one sitting, > because the perfection and density of his writing so saturates my > mind, that to read more is impossible for me. Shakespeare is just miraculous, inexplicable, a rishi wandering around in Elizabethan England writing those plays as popular entertainment for the *masses*. Sitcoms, murder mysteries, tragedies, docudramas, romances, churning 'em out. Including crowd-pleasers like this: Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time. And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player Who struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. --Macbeth Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi refuses to Levitate.??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hmmm... how big a difference would it make if > > > one translated "samaadhau" to 'in samaadhi' instead > > > of 'to samaadhi'? I seem to recall that Vyaasa or > > > Bhoja comments that siddhis tend to make samaadhi weaker, but they > > > don't obstruct it alltogether (provided I've understood > > > the Sanskrit approximately correctly). > > > > Don't know nuttin' about the Sanskrit, but recall > > that according to MMY, the function of practicing > > the TM-Sidhis is to "challenge" samadhi, as with > > the metaphor of the sun fading the yellow dye in the > > context of plain-vanilla TM. Activity following > > meditation "challenges" the samadhi that remains > > after meditation, which ultimately results in > > strengthening it and making it permanent. > > > > The intense color of the dye when the cloth comes > > out of the dye vat is "weakened" by the sun, but > > what remains is what has become permanent. The > > permanent part is added to incrementally with each > > dip into the vat until it's all permanent. But > > that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't "weakened" > > by the sun each time. > > > > Don't know if this has anything to do with it, but > > the possible parallel struck me as interesting. > > The sidhis challenge/weaken samadhi on the most fundamental level > possible. You know, I never connected the yellow dye analogy with the TM-Sidhis' "challenge" to samadhi before; I sure don't recall the parallel being part of what we were taught about the techniques. It was eki's mention of "weakening" that made me think of it. Now it seems obvious. Did I just miss that part? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "eptfnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What do others here think of the flag design? > > > > > Located at http://tmbulletin.net/images/GCWP-flag.jpg Being an artist, the flag design is powerful and awe inspiring. Can't say the same for the organization it represents... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > 'Behold the nose that mars the harmony > > > Of its master's phiz! blushing its treachery!' > > > --Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said, > > > Had you of wit or letters the least jot... > > > > > > --Edmond Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac" > > > > Beautiful! > > Old-fashioned, but fun. I suspect the original > French is full of puns and wordplay that the > English translation doesn't even hint at. > > They sure knew how to do insults in those days... Just the use of the language is what I find amazing- overwhelming, even. Like Shakespeare, who I find to be the greatest English writer of all time, but can only read about a page of his at one sitting, because the perfection and density of his writing so saturates my mind, that to read more is impossible for me. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi refuses to Levitate.??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hmmm... how big a difference would it make if > > one translated "samaadhau" to 'in samaadhi' instead > > of 'to samaadhi'? I seem to recall that Vyaasa or > > Bhoja comments that siddhis tend to make samaadhi weaker, but they > > don't obstruct it alltogether (provided I've understood > > the Sanskrit approximately correctly). > > Don't know nuttin' about the Sanskrit, but recall > that according to MMY, the function of practicing > the TM-Sidhis is to "challenge" samadhi, as with > the metaphor of the sun fading the yellow dye in the > context of plain-vanilla TM. Activity following > meditation "challenges" the samadhi that remains > after meditation, which ultimately results in > strengthening it and making it permanent. > > The intense color of the dye when the cloth comes > out of the dye vat is "weakened" by the sun, but > what remains is what has become permanent. The > permanent part is added to incrementally with each > dip into the vat until it's all permanent. But > that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't "weakened" > by the sun each time. > > Don't know if this has anything to do with it, but > the possible parallel struck me as interesting. The sidhis challenge/weaken samadhi on the most fundamental level possible. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Off, the main reason ID is not taken seriously by > > > > science is that it introduces a metaphysical > > > concept > > > > (ie, a creator) that is not open to scientific > > > > inquiry. If you can not measure/quantify a central > > > > concept of a hypothesis, it's not science. > > > > > > And thusly, much of string theory is and must always > > > be non-science. > > > > I don't know enough about string theory. But they must > > link the concepts back to quantifiable concepts, yes? > > That is, they wouldn't introduce a concept that was > > unmeasurable. > > I can't explain the reasoning, but I have heard prominent physicists > say the above -- that (parts of ) it can never be tested or verified. > Maybe it is the 13 dimension thing. And he said thusly, string theory > is not science. > > I am just suggesting that a hard and fast rule may be problematic. > String Theory sure looks like science to me. But I am an acknowledged > retard. Scientists make lousy philosophers of science, in general. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Off, the main reason ID is not taken seriously by > > > science is that it introduces a metaphysical > > concept > > > (ie, a creator) that is not open to scientific > > > inquiry. If you can not measure/quantify a central > > > concept of a hypothesis, it's not science. > > > > And thusly, much of string theory is and must always > > be non-science. > > I don't know enough about string theory. But they must > link the concepts back to quantifiable concepts, yes? > That is, they wouldn't introduce a concept that was > unmeasurable. Why not? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Off, the main reason ID is not taken seriously by > > science is that it introduces a metaphysical concept > > (ie, a creator) that is not open to scientific > > inquiry. If you can not measure/quantify a central > > concept of a hypothesis, it's not science. > > And thusly, much of string theory is and must always be non-science. Falsifiable predictions. That's all it takes -- that and being willing to modify the theory (in theory at least) if those predictions are falsified. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Off, the main reason ID is not taken seriously by > > > science is that it introduces a metaphysical concept > > > (ie, a creator) that is not open to scientific > > > inquiry. > > > Are you positive that science will never be able to "sense" and/or > "measure" a creator? Can you or anyone present a rigourous proof proof > that? That's an indeterminate, I think. How do you know that a given Creator (say of THIS universe) is the One and Only? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/29/05 8:05 PM, "bbrigante" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I'm reading the front page of the Thurs > > Sept. 29th Wall > > Street > > > > > Journal, which sez that ID is just a synonym > > for creationism... > > > > > > > > ...and which is also a synonym for Hindu > > fundamentalists who claim > > > > that Rig Veda is the foundation of creation and > > quantum > > > > reality...same thing, different culture... > > > > > > Exactly. And IMO the whole tsimus arises from one > > > unchallenged linear assumption -- that there WAS > > > a first Creation. If you don't assume that, it > > > becomes a much more interesting ballgame.>> > > > > > > Yes, but if you bring THAT idea into the discussion, > > believe me, you > > will be blasted by the anti-ID scientists more than > > they do to the > > fundamentalit creationists. They will treat you like > > the plague, > > because this idea has no merits whatsoever in > > current classically > > prejudiced scientific thinking about the quantum > > universe. > > > > OffWorld > > Off, the main reason ID is not taken seriously by > science is that it introduces a metaphysical concept > (ie, a creator) that is not open to scientific > inquiry. If you can not measure/quantify a central > concept of a hypothesis, it's not science. > Nyah, there's plenty of non-measureables in Science. What makes ID non-scientific is that there are NO falsifiable predictions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 9/29/05 8:05 PM, "bbrigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Yeah, I'm reading the front page of the Thurs Sept. 29th Wall > Street > > > > Journal, which sez that ID is just a synonym for creationism... > > > > > > ...and which is also a synonym for Hindu fundamentalists who claim > > > that Rig Veda is the foundation of creation and quantum > > > reality...same thing, different culture... > > > > Exactly. And IMO the whole tsimus arises from one > > unchallenged linear assumption -- that there WAS > > a first Creation. If you don't assume that, it > > becomes a much more interesting ballgame.>> > > > Yes, but if you bring THAT idea into the discussion, believe me, you > will be blasted by the anti-ID scientists more than they do to the > fundamentalit creationists. They will treat you like the plague, > because this idea has no merits whatsoever in current classically > prejudiced scientific thinking about the quantum universe. > > OffWorld More like "no relevance." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi refuses to Levitate.??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/30/05 3:29 AM, "cardemaister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> One place is:
> >>
> >> Knowledge of Cosmic Consciousness
> >>
> >> 5. "The Renunciation of the Knower"
> >>
> >> 5.1 The Path of the Paramahamsa Yogins
> >>
> >> 5.1.4. The two terms ("paramahamsa" and "yogin") are used
together
> > in order
> >> to exclude someone who is only a yogin and someone who is only a
> >> paramahamsa. Someone who is only a yogin is a person who, because
> > of his
> >> lack of the knowledge of truth, is attached to amazing feats of
> > yogic power,
> >> such as knowing the past, present, and future, yogic flying,
etc.,
> >> and has made efforts toward this or that (siddhi) with the
various
> > samyama
> >> formulae. Consequently he becomes separated from the highest aim
> > of human
> >> existence, Cosmic Consciousness.
> >> --
> >> jiivanmuktiviveka
> >>
> >> 5. atha paJcamaM vidvasaMnyaasaprakaraNam
> >>
> >> 5.1 yoginaaM parahaMsaanaaM margaH
> >>
> >> 5.1.4 kevalayoginaM kevalaM paramahaMsaM ca vaarayituM padadvayam
> > uktam
> >> kevalayogii tattvajnaanaabhavena trikaalajnaanaakazagamanadiSu
> >> yogaizvaryacamatkaaravyavahaareSv aasaktaH saMyamaviZeSais tatra
> >> tatrodyuktas, tataH paramapuruSaarthaad bhraSTo bhavati.
> >
> > Nice! Is that your own transliteration? (There seems to be a
couple
> > of minor typos in it, of the type I myself tend to make, but
overall
> > it's very good compared to what one usually sees.)
>
> Yes it is, from notes I had typed.
>
> > Which part of that
> > translates to "cosmic consciousness"? I guess it's implied.
>
> Yes, the topic is jivanmukti in this case--cosmic consciousness--so
> 'separated from the highest aim of existence', is referring the
jivanmukti
> state and how it is lost..
How does one jivanmukti?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi refuses to Levitate.??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [...] > > > > It DID say that yogic flying was > > > > an obstacle of Cosmic Consciousness (Skt.: turiyatita). > > > > > > Where exactly did it say that? > > > > See: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/cx4ff > > > > Vaj's story seems to have changed a bit since > > that post, though. But perhaps he's discovered > > passages that refer explicitly to yogic flying > > as an obstacle. > > "These are obstacles to samadhi; they are powers > in the worldly state." > > te samaadhaav upasargaa, vyutthaane siddhayaH. > > "samaadhaav": sandhi for locative singular "samaadhau" > "siddhayaH" : nominative plural of "siddhi" > > Hmmm... how big a difference would it make if > one translated "samaadhau" to 'in samaadhi' instead > of 'to samaadhi'? I seem to recall that Vyaasa or > Bhoja comments that siddhis tend to make samaadhi weaker, but they > don't obstruct it alltogether (provided I've understood > the Sanskrit approximately correctly). > For instance in YS I 13 locative singular "sthitau" > which is analogous to "samaadhau", IMO roughly has the > meaning 'in sthiti', despite the fact that translating > it exactly like that (in staying) would sound a bit > awkward in English. Moreover, in a concrete connection > locative usually translates to 'in...', as "nagare", > 'in the city'. OTOH, it's true that locative should > often be tranlated to 'into' (Coulson: end result > of motion).An example from > Coulson: *jale* baalaM kSipati (he throws the child > into the water). But there is certainly not an explicit > verb of motion in the suutra. "Obstacles IN samadhi" actually strengthtens (pun noted) MMY's claim. All thoughts and actions are obstacles "in" samadhi (for maintaining samadhi). The trick is to overcome them by alternating rest and activity. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > 'Behold the nose that mars the harmony > > Of its master's phiz! blushing its treachery!' > > --Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said, > > Had you of wit or letters the least jot... > > > > --Edmond Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac" > > Beautiful! Old-fashioned, but fun. I suspect the original French is full of puns and wordplay that the English translation doesn't even hint at. They sure knew how to do insults in those days... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Pall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear friends from around the world, > > Mother Divine 9 days (Oct-4-12) > for wealth, prosperity, health, longevity, knowledge and intelligence. > By awakening human awareness , 9 days will help all aspects of life... > the five senses, mind, intellect and ego...Those 9 days Yagnas will > support prosperity & fulfillment, help increase wealth, support > spiritual progress, gain knowledge, clear intellect, improvement of > memory, peace of mind, good for education, improve influence in > society, increase harmony in married life, help remove big problems, > help find suitable job, support success in business, fulfillment of > desires, removal of fears, help remove illness, improvement of health, > help prevent danger, help peaceful sleep, overall progress, improve > relationship, remove obstacles, help finding suitable spouse, free > from obstacles, support in court case, support in better life... > > MONTHLY MEMBERS are all included in this Yagna Thanks for this Tom. Just a reminder that given Mother Divine as the Universal Supreme Being, all of these things are available to us at any time. Not to make light of your apparent 'boost' through these techniques, but just to recognize that these good fortunes, all of them, are always present, should we choose to receive them. I know this from personal experience becuase I don't participate in such ceremonies yet live a life of total support from Mother Divine. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > And what are those Nosers of Reality all about? > > > > I think Socrates nailed it when he said "nose thyself". > > > > But as I always say, what my girl friend doesn't nose won't hurt > > her. > > > > Reveal thy wisdom unto me. I wants to nose. > > A nosological primer: > > ...You might have said at least a hundred things > By varying the tone. . .like this, suppose,. . . > Aggressive: 'Sir, if I had such a nose > I'd amputate it!' Friendly: 'When you sup > It must annoy you, dipping in your cup; > You need a drinking-bowl of special shape!' > Descriptive: ''Tis a rock!. . .a peak!. . .a cape! > --A cape, forsooth! 'Tis a peninsular!' > Curious: 'How serves that oblong capsular? > For scissor-sheath? Or pot to hold your ink?' > Gracious: 'You love the little birds, I think? > I see you've managed with a fond research > To find their tiny claws a roomy perch!' > Truculent: 'When you smoke your pipe. . .suppose > That the tobacco-smoke spouts from your nose-- > Do not the neighbors, as the fumes rise higher, > Cry terror-struck: "The chimney is afire"?' > Considerate: 'Take care,. . .your head bowed low > By such a weight. . .lest head o'er heels you go!' > Tender: 'Pray get a small umbrella made, > Lest its bright color in the sun should fade!' > Pedantic: 'That beast Aristophanes > Names Hippocamelelephantoles > Must have possessed just such a solid lump > Of flesh and bone, beneath his forehead's bump!' > Cavalier: 'The last fashion, friend, that hook? > To hang your hat on? 'Tis a useful crook!' > Emphatic: 'No wind, O majestic nose, > Can give THEE cold!--save when the mistral blows!' > Dramatic: 'When it bleeds, what a Red Sea!' > Admiring: 'Sign for a perfumery!' > Lyric: 'Is this a conch?. . .a Triton you?' > Simple: 'When is the monument on view?' > Rustic: 'That thing a nose? Marry-come-up! > 'Tis a dwarf pumpkin, or a prize turnip!' > Military: 'Point against cavalry!' > Practical: 'Put it in a lottery! > Assuredly 'twould be the biggest prize!' > Or. . .parodying Pyramus' sighs. . . > 'Behold the nose that mars the harmony > Of its master's phiz! blushing its treachery!' > --Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said, > Had you of wit or letters the least jot... > > --Edmond Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac" Beautiful! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I always thought it said "Paul is dead." > > > > > > > > Only when you play it backwards. Or when Owsley is visiting. > > > > > > It was a nice quote. I was just fascinated by the > > > reading it backwards thang. Cardemeister and Vaj, > > > is that a thing with Sanskrit, reading a set of > > > characters both backwards and forwards? > > > > I don't know, but I seem to recall having > > read years ago that some Sanskrit writers were/are(?) > > quite fond of word play. > > I've heard that as well, stories of poems created > spontaneously, each word of which has multiple > definitions, the poem meaning something no matter > which definitions of the words you use. But I hadn't > ever heard of reading the characters backwards. I find it works in English too...Probably any language, given that letters form vibrations, which then manifest. Always great fun! 'nuf? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And what are those Nosers of Reality all about? > > I think Socrates nailed it when he said "nose thyself". > > But as I always say, what my girl friend doesn't nose won't hurt > her. > > Reveal thy wisdom unto me. I wants to nose. A nosological primer: ...You might have said at least a hundred things By varying the tone. . .like this, suppose,. . . Aggressive: 'Sir, if I had such a nose I'd amputate it!' Friendly: 'When you sup It must annoy you, dipping in your cup; You need a drinking-bowl of special shape!' Descriptive: ''Tis a rock!. . .a peak!. . .a cape! --A cape, forsooth! 'Tis a peninsular!' Curious: 'How serves that oblong capsular? For scissor-sheath? Or pot to hold your ink?' Gracious: 'You love the little birds, I think? I see you've managed with a fond research To find their tiny claws a roomy perch!' Truculent: 'When you smoke your pipe. . .suppose That the tobacco-smoke spouts from your nose-- Do not the neighbors, as the fumes rise higher, Cry terror-struck: "The chimney is afire"?' Considerate: 'Take care,. . .your head bowed low By such a weight. . .lest head o'er heels you go!' Tender: 'Pray get a small umbrella made, Lest its bright color in the sun should fade!' Pedantic: 'That beast Aristophanes Names Hippocamelelephantoles Must have possessed just such a solid lump Of flesh and bone, beneath his forehead's bump!' Cavalier: 'The last fashion, friend, that hook? To hang your hat on? 'Tis a useful crook!' Emphatic: 'No wind, O majestic nose, Can give THEE cold!--save when the mistral blows!' Dramatic: 'When it bleeds, what a Red Sea!' Admiring: 'Sign for a perfumery!' Lyric: 'Is this a conch?. . .a Triton you?' Simple: 'When is the monument on view?' Rustic: 'That thing a nose? Marry-come-up! 'Tis a dwarf pumpkin, or a prize turnip!' Military: 'Point against cavalry!' Practical: 'Put it in a lottery! Assuredly 'twould be the biggest prize!' Or. . .parodying Pyramus' sighs. . . 'Behold the nose that mars the harmony Of its master's phiz! blushing its treachery!' --Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said, Had you of wit or letters the least jot... --Edmond Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Details of Vedic Cognition- Transcript
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Details of Vedic Cognition snip > `It is beautiful. This is cognition; this is Vedic cognition. This is the > comprehension of Total Knowledge. It is so beautiful.' I didn't read it all, and I am assuming it is a recent talk, but given those caveats, it's definately "old school" Maharishi. Imagine if he had just stayed "on point" all these years, instead taking the path he did. lurk > > > > __ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
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[FairfieldLife] The Maharishi Effect
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[FairfieldLife] The Details of Vedic Cognition- Transcript
The Details of Vedic Cognition Dr Hagelin: It is very clear and very practical, in terms of what to do to prevent job-related stress, boredom-induced stress: eliminate boredom by diving into the evolutionary flow of life, expanding towards infinity, and achieving the goal of life. It is a beautiful answer, Maharishi. The last question is a deep one about the details of Vedic cognition. Last week, Maharishi spoke of the deep mechanics of cognition of the wholeness of the Veda by the Rishis of ancient India. Maharishi said every Rishi sees the Veda, the Constitution of the Universe, in one syllable A, which contains within it all the details of the Veda. My question is: Do these details of the Veda include the individual recommendations for diet, herbal remedies, sound therapies, and purification procedures that are available in Ayurveda, or the precise mathematical calculations for proper layout of a building that are found in Sthapatya Veda? Did all these details of these different branches of the Veda also originate in the original cognitions of the ancient Vedic Rishisthe cognitions of A? Or were they developed subsequently by commentators at a later time? Maharishi: No, when we say later time, time emerges from there [laughter]. Time emerges from there. About A: it is like when you see the moon. When you see the moon, you are seeing the moon, seeing the moon. Then what happens is, when you are seeing the moon, seeing the moon, seeing the moon, what is inside the moon begins to come into visionwhat is inside. Then what is inside that, comes out; what is inside that, comes out; what is inside that, comes out. That is the situation about cognition of A. A is a total syllable. A is said to beA isSarva Vak. Sarva Vak means total speech. A is total speech. When you see it, you get so absorbed in it. In the seeing process, the process of seeing takes the seer to the sight. Now you want to see, you see A. You are here, A is somewhere in front. You see. So the seer jumps out of his own eyes; from the eyes, he reaches the sight, and then brings the sight to the eyes. This is the process of seeingthe sight comes out and occupies the seer. The sight becomes the seer. When the sight becomes the seer, then the sight, which is A, is no more in the vision. What is in the vision is A, which has become the seer, and what was inside A remains a sight. Then, in turn, the same thing happens: something that was there inside A jumps out of A, jumps out from within A, and again occupies the seer. So all the time, the sight becomes the seer, and then the seer sees something elsewhat was beneath it. This process of seeing, in itself, is so unfolding that it unfolds whatever is inside, and keeps on unfolding, keeps on unfolding, keeps on unfolding. Immediately, in the second evolvement of A, is a gap. There is a gap, because the sight becomes the seer, and inside the sight, it becomes the new sight. The new sight becomes the seer, the new sight. Then the whole A, seen like that, brings to sight complete emptiness, which is the last reality of A. A, entering into it, entering into it, entering into it, and then there is nothing to see: it is emptinessA. It is that emptiness, the total abstraction, which is within a point. Within a point is that total abstraction, unmanifest, transcendental reality. When seeing A, the process of seeing presents, ultimately, something that is transcendental. That is emptiness, a big zero. What is this big zero? It is emptiness of A. It is no more A; it is complete absence of A, the totality of A in the unmanifest. This is the cognition of the VedaAk. When the A ends, then there is the gap there. And then, after the gap, comes out to be Ka. Ka is a Kan. Kan means the point. So from the wholeness to nothingness. Nothingness is the gap. The gap after A is nothingness. From the total value of speech, A to the end of A, this is cognition of A. A cognized means the Totality cognized. What was there when the Totality was cognized? There was no Totality; there was the basis of Totality, the shadow of Totality. The unmanifestlike the hollowness of the banyan seedis there. The hollowness is there. That hollowness is called the Sandhi. Sandhi is the gap. In the whole Vedic Literature, in the whole flow of the Veda, there is a word and there is a gap; there is a word and a gap, and a word and a gap, and a word and a gap. So when Rishi Madhuchhandas saw Veda, he saw A, and he saw unmanifest A. Then he saw some other words, and then he saw the unmanifest of that, and he saw some other words, and he saw the unmanifest of that. This whole run of the Veda is the run of Totality into emptinesswholeness, emptiness, nothingness, gap. This first word and the gap, word and the gaptwoare involved in presenting the definition of the Veda. Veda means knowledg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I don't have any particular affection for > > > Schroedinger's cat. I'd be delighted if someone > > > could show it was a fallacy. I'd be thrilled if > > > celestial bodies could be shown to have > > > consciousness. I had a revelatory experience once > > > of becoming aware of the sun as a conscious being. > > > > Nice. What sort of Personality did it show you? > > > > :-) > > It lied all the time. :-) Too much white matter, not enough gray? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi refuses to Levitate.??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for explaining. My pleasure; thanks for asking. > > :-) > > Oo. Nasty emoticon. It must mean something nefarious. :-) HA! You got me there :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I didn't get any sense of a *personal* > > consciousness, i.e., like that of a person. > > "Action" for the sun is basically nuclear > > processes on a gigantic scale and the consequent > > release of huge amounts of energy; that's what > > the sun "does," ceaselessly, and whatever > > sentience it has is fully occupied keeping that > > massive furnace going. > > Here's a photo of a small portion of the sun's > surface, doing what it does: > > http://solarviews.com/browse/sun/trace10.jpg > > Here's another, with an image of the earth > superimposed to give a sense of scale: > > http://solarviews.com/browse/sun/trace8.jpg > > The captions for these photos: > > > "Fountains of multimillion-degree, electrified > gas in the atmosphere of the Sun have revealed > the location where the solar atmosphere is heated > to temperatures 300 times greater than the Sun's > visible surface." > > > *Multimillion-degree*. Marvelous. And beautiful. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I don't have any particular affection for > > > Schroedinger's cat. I'd be delighted if someone > > > could show it was a fallacy. I'd be thrilled if > > > celestial bodies could be shown to have > > > consciousness. I had a revelatory experience once > > > of becoming aware of the sun as a conscious being. > > > > Nice. What sort of Personality did it show you? > > I didn't get any sense of a *personal* > consciousness, i.e., like that of a person. > "Action" for the sun is basically nuclear > processes on a gigantic scale and the consequent > release of huge amounts of energy; that's what > the sun "does," ceaselessly, and whatever > sentience it has is fully occupied keeping that > massive furnace going. > > So it isn't a very *interesting* type of > consciousness, with human-type quirks and > idiosyncrasies, just overwhelmingly awesome to > sense that all that incredibly fierce power is > animate. > > And if the sun is conscious, it means the rest > of the stars--some of which make the sun look > like a kid's night light by comparison--and black > holes and quasars and God knows what other > monstrously powerful entities inhabit the universe > are conscious beings as well. > > And then you start to wonder what *galaxies* are... And Universes... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The Dark side of the Moon
The dark side of the moon By Robert L. Park The New York Times THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2005 COLLEGE PARK, Maryland This week NASA described plans to return astronauts to the moon in 2018 at a cost of $104 billion. That's nine years after President George W. Bush leaves office. Starting from scratch in 1961, President John F. Kennedy's commitment to put a man on the moon and return him safely to Earth was realized in just eight years. What is going on? The Apollo 11 moon landing on July 16, 1969, transcended the superpower struggle for world domination that had motivated it. People everywhere were awed by what was above all an inspiring demonstration of human achievement. Could lunar colonies, expeditions to Mars and even the stars be far behind? Just three years later, however, as the war in Southeast Asia drained American resources, the era of human space exploration abruptly ended. In 36 years, no human has ventured beyond the relative safety of low-Earth orbit. Who could have imagined, on that magic night in the summer of 1969, that the moon might be as far into space as humans would ever go? On the 20th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, President George H.W. Bush spoke from the steps of the National Air and Space Museum in Washington. The president called for a return to the moon and for a human expedition to Mars. "Like Columbus," he said, "we dream of distant shores we've not yet seen." George W. Bush seems driven to complete his father's unfinished business in space, as in Iraq. But much has changed. The Cold War, which provided the initial motivation for America's space program, is long gone. And technological progress has superseded human space exploration. Remotely controlled instruments have become natural extensions of frail human bodies. Much of what we yearn to discover in space is inaccessible to humans. Astronauts on Mars, locked in their spacesuits, could not venture far from shelter amid the constant bombardment of energetic particles that are unscreened by the thin atmosphere. Beyond Mars, there is no place humans can go in the foreseeable future. The great adventure of the 21st century will be to explore where no human can possibly set foot. The great quest is to find life to which we are not related. Could nature have solved the problem of life in some other way, in some other place? When we find out, we will know much more about ourselves. Two mechanical geologists, Spirit and Opportunity, are doing this even now, by searching for evidence of water on opposite sides of Mars. They don't break for lunch or complain about the cold nights, and they live on sunshine. They've been at it for nearly two years, yet their mission costs less than sending a shuttle to the International Space Station. The brains of Spirit and Opportunity are the brains of geologists back on Earth. Progress in society is measured by the extent to which work that is dangerous or menial is done by machines. The benefits we enjoy from the space program - weather satellites, communications satellites and global positioning - come from robotic spacecraft. Few scientists are calling for a human mission to the moon or Mars. Human space exploration is essentially over. It is too expensive and provides too little return. But politicians know that the American public identifies progress in space with human astronauts. The Bush administration's solution is to create an impossibly expensive and pointless program for some other administration to cancel, thus bearing the blame for ending human space exploration. The return to the moon is not a noble quest. It is a poison pill. Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Horrible News from Pakistan
In a message dated 10/1/05 3:34:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hari Om, He gets to go to Heaven where 70 Virgins are waiting to Striptease for him. This is an obvious mistranslation. It should read 70 west Virginia hillbillies waiting on him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Horrible News from Pakistan
Hari Om, He gets to go to Heaven where 70 Virgins are waiting to Striptease for him. Jason -OriginalMessage-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 16:21:54 EDT Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Horrible News from Pakistan But But But... isn't this permissible under Islamic law? I mean this guy is only defending his family's honor. Now had they had that 'ol time religion, he could have just poured kerosene over her and thrown a lit match on her. Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Two peace palaces for Fairfield?
In a message dated 10/1/05 3:17:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the only reason I can think of they would need two peace palaces would be if one was intended for women, other for men... well they could use a third one for eunuchs?. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Horrible News from Pakistan
In a message dated 10/1/05 3:15:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MULTAN: A Pakistani man cut off the nose and lips of his 19-year-old sister-in-law after she went to court for a divorce in a tribal area of Punjab province, police said yesterday. But But But... isn't this permissible under Islamic law? I mean this guy is only defending his family's honor. Now had they had that 'ol time religion, he could have just poured kerosene over her and thrown a lit match on her. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Two peace palaces for Fairfield?
the only reason I can think of they would need two peace palaces would be if one was intended for women, other for men... On 30 September 2005 Maharishi University of Management Review reported: Campus residents at Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa will soon see the start of construction of two Maharishi Peace Palaces. 'The Maharishi Peace Palaces will be a proper home for the pure knowledge so generously given to us for the past 50 years by Maharishi,' said Alexandria DeVasier, director of one of the Maharishi Peace Palaces for Fairfield. It is a joy for Global Good News service to feature this news, which indicates the success of the life-supporting programmes Maharishi has designed to bring fulfilment to the field of world-peace. Each Maharishi Peace Palace will be 12,000 square feet, built according to principles of Maharishi Vedic Architecture and situated on three acres of land, with celebration grounds in front of the building. They will have a white marble exterior. The construction will be done in phases over the next six months. Ms DeVasier said the Peace Palaces 'will offer over 50 programmes, courses, services, and products in the new buildings'. These will include MAPI products, books, a day spa, residence course rooms, and more. 'These Maharishi Peace Palaces are a profound gift from Maharishi that will preserve the legacy of the knowledge of enlightenment and perfect health for all generations to come,' Ms DeVasier said. 'Establishing Maharishi Peace Palaces in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City will bring a wave of coherence to change the negative trends throughout the United States.' Copyright 2005, Maharishi University of Management http://www.globalgoodnews.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Horrible News from Pakistan
World News >>> Womans nose, lips cut off for seeking divorce MULTAN: A Pakistani man cut off the nose and lips of his 19-year-old sister-in-law after she went to court for a divorce in a tribal area of Punjab province, police said yesterday.Mohammad Hasan Abbas first shot at Amna Abbas and her brother, causing them to fall off a bicycle, as they headed home from a court in Dera Ghazi Khan, 125km from Multan, police said. Abbas then attacked the girl, hacking off her nose and slicing off her lips.He fled after the incident and we are searching for him. The girl has been admitted to hospital, police inspector Mohammad Shafiq said.A doctor treating the girl said her nose had been cut off from the bridge and her lips partially severed. She says her brother-in-law had told her he would not leave her fit for any other man, while committing the savage, inhuman act, Dr Farhat Hussain said.Pakistans attitudes to violence against women have come under an international spotlight since the Washington Post quoted President Gen. Pervez Musharraf saying this month that many of his compatriots believed that crying rape was a fast way to make money and get a visa for Canada. Gen. Musharraf says he is a strong advocate of womens rights and maintains he was misquoted. Reutersphoto: Amna Abbas lies in a hospital in Dera Ghazi Khan after her brother-in-law cut off her nose and lips for going to court for a divorce. Reuters Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bston Articlle- David Lynch- nice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.berkeleybeacon.com/media/paper169/news/2005/09/29/ArtsAndE ntertainment/David.Lynch.To.Speak.At.The.Majestic.Theatre- 1005911.shtml > > article in Hartford Courant: http://tinyurl.com/83tlh selections from article: Taking a break from creeping out movie audiences, David Lynch comes to Yale University today to discuss how transcendental meditation can bring about world peace. . The nightmarish images that fill Lynch's work, including the TV series "Twin Peaks," seem a little inconsistent with either world peace or inner peace. Are these the visions one should expect from transcendental meditation? Not to worry, says Lynch. "Artists mainly reflect the world they live in," he says. "I like a story with conflict, and I like to go to another world. You don't become a goody-goody two shoes; you become more you - and a stronger and clearer you." Many who take up transcendental meditation work to rid themselves of bad habits, such as smoking. As the photo on Page D1 shows, Lynch feels no such obligations. Meditation merely "increases your love," he says. "And I just love smoking tobacco. Transcendental meditation doesn't mean taking things away; you just add it to your life. Things get better." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The TMO buys an Island for the "real United Nations"
...but if you want to attend the celebration, reserve soon! The Skye Lodge (a motel, really) only has 49 rooms. There is a link to Skye Lodge below Neil's letter. (Maybe the pundits can get visas more easily to enter Canada than the US??? We'll see.) Global Country of World Peace Canadian Administrative Office Tel: 613-839-9393 Fax: 613-839-9394 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] September 29th, 2005 Dear Enlightened Canadians, It is a very great joy to invite you to the Inauguration of the ÎGlobal Parliament of World Peaceâ to be held on Vijaya Dashami Day, the auspicious Victory Day in the most ancient calendar--the Vedic Calendar-October 12th, 2005, on the land of the rising sun for North America, the Maharishi Island of World Peace, off the coast of Nova Scotia. The Inaugural sessions of the Global Parliament of World Peace will be held over a four day period from October 12th to October 16th, 2005 at the scenic Skye Lodge situated in the town of Port Hastings, Cape Breton, overlooking the Canso Causeway; a 2 1/2 hour drive from Halifax. The Maharishi Island of World Peace, which is to be the permanent seat of the Global Parliament of World Peace, is situated on the east coast of Nova Scotia near Skye Lodge. On October 12th we will hold a ceremony on the island to raise the flag of the Global Country of World Peace and break ground for the first building of the Global Parliament. This ceremony will include a special televised address from Maharishi and His Majesty Raja Raam, as well as Vedic recitation and an ancient ceremony of the indigenous Micmac Band to welcome the establishment of the Global Parliament of World Peace on their ancient lands. Following this ceremony there will be a royal banquet at Skye Lodge for everyone.. On the following days, October 13th through 16th, we will hold the inaugural sessions of the Global Parliament in the conference centre at Skye Lodge. These sessions will be presided over by Maharishi, Raja Raam and various leaders of the Global Country of World Peace in person or via video conferencing from Holland. They will include presentations of the philosophy and programs of the Global Parliament for creating world peace and the programs of the eight ministries of His Majesty Raja Raamsâ Global Peace Government- Education, Health, Law, Agriculture, Architecture and City Planning Science and Technology, Finance and Planning, Invincibility and World Peace. Sessions will also include presentations on the Canada Peace Government as well as the planned development of Maharishi Island of World Peace, which is to include a 200 room conference center for the Global Parliament, a University of World Peace campus for 200 students and facilities for 121 Vedic Pandits. These four days will also give us the opportunity to come together from all across Canada to create greater peace and harmony in national and world consciousness through our group practice of Maharishiâs Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programs. Recently, Maharishi proclaimed that the Global Parliament of World Peace we are founding in Canada will be the ÎReal United Nationsâ. He said, ÎWhen the existing United Nations is struggling to reform itself, it is abundantly clear to the world that it has utterly failed in its mission to create and maintain world peaceâ. Therefore, Maharishi said, Îtime demands the creation of a new global body that has the knowledge to create world peace and can truly unite the world.â Maharishi also expressed his wish that, ÎCanada, a true peace-loving nation, should be the host country for a ãNew United Nations of World Peaceä that is founded by the peace-loving people of all nationsâ. He said, ÎIf the USA can host a United Nations, why not Canada? North America is one continent, but if one half is bent on destruction in the world, let the other half create real peaceâ. Maharishi then stated, ÎThe purpose of the Global Parliament of World Peace is to present the Constitution of the Universe to the world and the training programs for every country to have their politicians and administrators trained in this absolute system of administration, under the parental role of our global administration, so that suffering and problems belong to no one and peace, harmony, happiness, and fulfillment dominate the daily life of the people everywhereâ. We are extremely fortunate and blessed that Maharishi and His Majesty Raja Raam have chosen Canada to be a permanent seat of the Global Parliament of World Peace. Therefore, the enlightened citizens of Canada are being invited from across the country to come and participate in the historic founding of this new global organization. In addition, representatives from every nation in the world are being invited to attend, as well as parliamentarians and members of the diplomatic community in Ottawa. Let
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam
> > > > I always thought it said "Paul is dead." > > > > > > Only when you play it backwards. Or when Owsley is visiting. > > > > It was a nice quote. I was just fascinated by the > > reading it backwards thang. Cardemeister and Vaj, > > is that a thing with Sanskrit, reading a set of > > characters both backwards and forwards? > > I don't know, but I seem to recall having > read years ago that some Sanskrit writers were/are(?) > quite fond of word play. I've heard that as well, stories of poems created spontaneously, each word of which has multiple definitions, the poem meaning something no matter which definitions of the words you use. But I hadn't ever heard of reading the characters backwards. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > This can be interpreted in a different way also. Sathya has > three > > > > syllables in it - 'Sa', 'Tha', 'Ya'. If you read it from right > to > > > > left, it becomes 'Ya', 'Tha', 'Sa', which means when one > follows the > > > > path of Yama (control of senses) and Niyama (discipline), and > > > > performs Thapas (penance), that is, one has the vision of > Sathya > > > > Swarupa embodiment of Truth). > > > > > > I always thought it said "Paul is dead." > > > > Only when you play it backwards. Or when Owsley is visiting. > > It was a nice quote. I was just fascinated by the > reading it backwards thang. Cardemeister and Vaj, > is that a thing with Sanskrit, reading a set of > characters both backwards and forwards? I don't know, but I seem to recall having read years ago that some Sanskrit writers were/are(?) quite fond of word play. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam (speak > truth, speak pleasantly and do not speak unpalatable truth). It'd be interesting to know why they in southern India tend to make alpa-praaNa consonants mahaa-praaNa (aspirated), above "satyam" -> "sathyam" and (I believe) "brUyAt" -> "bhrUyAth". Or do they have their own version of Sanskrit, like Buddhist have their hybrid-Sanskrit? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This can be interpreted in a different way also. Sathya has three > > > syllables in it - 'Sa', 'Tha', 'Ya'. If you read it from right to > > > left, it becomes 'Ya', 'Tha', 'Sa', which means when one follows the > > > path of Yama (control of senses) and Niyama (discipline), and > > > performs Thapas (penance), that is, one has the vision of Sathya > > > Swarupa embodiment of Truth). > > > > I always thought it said "Paul is dead." > > Only when you play it backwards. Or when Owsley is visiting. It was a nice quote. I was just fascinated by the reading it backwards thang. Cardemeister and Vaj, is that a thing with Sanskrit, reading a set of characters both backwards and forwards? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "eptfnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What do others here think of the flag design? I preferred the original by Bridget Riley; she was at least straightforward about her manipulative intent through optical control. Then again this is a flag, canonical reverence is implied. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This can be interpreted in a different way also. Sathya has three > > syllables in it - 'Sa', 'Tha', 'Ya'. If you read it from right to > > left, it becomes 'Ya', 'Tha', 'Sa', which means when one follows the > > path of Yama (control of senses) and Niyama (discipline), and > > performs Thapas (penance), that is, one has the vision of Sathya > > Swarupa embodiment of Truth). > > I always thought it said "Paul is dead." Only when you play it backwards. Or when Owsley is visiting. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This can be interpreted in a different way also. Sathya has three > syllables in it - 'Sa', 'Tha', 'Ya'. If you read it from right to > left, it becomes 'Ya', 'Tha', 'Sa', which means when one follows the > path of Yama (control of senses) and Niyama (discipline), and > performs Thapas (penance), that is, one has the vision of Sathya > Swarupa embodiment of Truth). I always thought it said "Paul is dead." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "eptfnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What do others here think of the flag design? > > > > Located at http://tmbulletin.net/images/GCWP-flag.jpg > > It looks like a Jerry Garcia tie. That's a compliment, by the way. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam
Sathyam Bhruyath, Priyam Bhruyath, Na Bhruyath Sathyamapriyam (speak truth, speak pleasantly and do not speak unpalatable truth). Sathyam Vada, Dharmam Chara (speak truth, practise righteousness). The Upanishads declare that food originates from Sathyam (Truth). It consists of three syllables - 'Sath', 'Ya' and 'M'. 'Sath' is life, 'Ya' represents food and 'M', the Sun. Sathyam does not mean merely to say out things as they are seen by the naked eye. The sun provides food which sustains life. The sun, food and life together constitute Sathyam. This is what I mean when I say that the creation emerges from truth and merges into truth. It is Sathyam that satisfies the hunger, gives strength to the body and in fact safeguards and sustains the whole world. This is the inner significance of the word Sathyam. This can be interpreted in a different way also. Sathya has three syllables in it - 'Sa', 'Tha', 'Ya'. If you read it from right to left, it becomes 'Ya', 'Tha', 'Sa', which means when one follows the path of Yama (control of senses) and Niyama (discipline), and performs Thapas (penance), that is, one has the vision of Sathya Swarupa (embodiment of Truth). Truth is God. Where is truth? It is all-pervasive. It encompasses the entire creation. Trikalabadhyam Sathyam (that which remains unchanged in the modes of perceived time -past, present and future is Truth). Truth is the power that one gets by strictly adhering to Yama and Niyama and performing penance. Such penance leads ultimately to the vision of God. Sathyam Jnanam Anantham Brahma (Brahman is the embodiment of truth, wisdom and eternity). Truth is wisdom. Advaita Darshanam Jnanam (perception of non-duality is wisdom). There is only one principle in this world and that is Truth. Wisdom is infinite. It is not mere textual knowledge. It has neither a beginning nor an end. Only by following the path of Truth one can experience wisdom. Truth is the essence of the Vedas. In fact, Truth is the origin of the Vedas. In this manner, if you enquire deeply, you will realise that Truth has a number of consistent interpretations. Sages and saints of yore considered Truth as their very life-breath. All types of wealth and comforts are present in Truth. Hence, truth is not an expression of worldly facts. In ancient times, saints and sages renounced everything and did severe penance to know the nature of truth. Truth is the very expression of Brahman. A deep enquiry reveals that 'Sath' is the fundamental basis of life. Without Sath, Chit (awareness) cannot exist. Sath is the positive power. Chit takes Sath as the basis for its functioning and hence it is not the fundamental principle. It is the complimentary negative in nature. When Sath, the positive, combines with Chit, what results is Ananda (bliss). Sath can also be compared to sugar and Chit, to water. When you add sugar to water, you get syrup. Likewise, Sath and Chit together give bliss. Where is God? In what form does He exist? Just as sugar is present in every drop of syrup, God pervades the entire creation. Sugar and syrup are inseparable. The same can be said of milk and butter. Similarly, God and the universe are inseparable. http://www.eaisai.com/baba/docs/d021014.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "eptfnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What do others here think of the flag design? > Well, savitaaraM satya-saavaM, or stuff? ;) Or, hvayaami devaM savitaaram uutaye! Then again, tat savitur varenyaM bhargo devasya dhiimahi! > > > > Located at http://tmbulletin.net/images/GCWP-flag.jpg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] File - FFL Guidelines.txt
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you get hosed when you nose too much? > > Do bozos nose more? > > Who nose where the time goes? > > Do you still nose when you doze? > > Is "I nose" just a pose? > > I nose it deep down to my toes You win by a nose! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just an observation: > > Byron Katie said that in here life, when ever she has felt lonely or > insecure, she can trace it back to putting her nose in i) others > peoples' business or ii) God's business (what IS), instead of her > own business for which she said there was ample work to do. Clearly > that doesn't work in reverse for you: sticking your nose in Judy's > business doesn't appear to make you lonely or insecure. Do you get > the same result when you stick your nose in God's business "Listen > here God, don't give me none of that "It IS" crap. This (whatever) > should not be. I will not accept it." If I believed in a God, I am certain that I would have had such conversations with He/She/It. "I know I am God because when I pray to him I find I'm talking to myself." - Peter Barnes > I am only interested because I am sticking to my own business in > trying to figure out what path I want to follow: keeping my nose > in my business or sticking it both in other's and God's business. > You seem to be doing pretty well doing the latter so I wanted to > be clearer on the benefits. Point taken. Thanks. > And what the hell is Byron Katie sticking her nose in my business > for? Now *that's* funny! > And does God only keep her nose in her business? Or does she put > it in others' business? A good question, but one that I think is more appropriate for the Intelligent Design thread. > If you get a nose job, does it lessen your ability to stick your > nose in others' business? Another good question. Based solely on anecdotal experience with women whose lessened probosci seemed to have no effect on their sticking abilities, I would have to guess "No." > And what are those Nosers of Reality all about? I think Douglas Adams wrote about them in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: "Viltvodle VI is the home world of the small, blue, fifty-armed Jatravartids, who live in perpetual fear of what they refer to as "The Coming of the Great White Handkerchief." This is their cosmology's version of the end of the Universe, and can be explained by the fact that they believe that the Universe was sneezed out by a creature called the Great Green Arkleseizure." Obviously, Nosers of Reality are those who believe in the religion of Viltvodle VI. They would not be caught dead getting a nose job because that would be considered defacing an image of God, and thus a mortal sin. > I think Socrates nailed it when he said "nose thyself". And look what happened to him. A hemlock margarita. > But as I always say, what my girl friend doesn't nose won't > hurt her. Did you know that what Johnny Depp wanted to do with his character of Captain Jack Sparrow in the "Pirates" movie was to have a blue nose? As he imagined it, Jack had had his nose cut off in a fight and then sewn back on. Unfortunately, the circulation was never fully restored, and as a result, Jack's nose was blue. Suffice it to say that Disney Studios was not as amused by this idea as I was, because the idea never made it to the screen. > Reveal thy wisdom unto me. I wants to nose. O nobly born, thy question is worthy, and I shall expound upon it. Some teachers have said that the eyes are the window to the soul. I say that this is not true. The NOSE is the window to the soul. Is not the breath -- holy prana -- more subtle and refined that mere sight? Do you perform holy pranayama by poking your fingers in your eyes? (You don't have to answer that...it's not that kind of teaching.) Anyway, the nose is where it's at. If you want to know someone's soul, you have to look up their nose. Practice this simple exercise at home tonight, Grasshopper. Prepare a lovely candlelight dinner for your girlfriend, put on some soothing music, and tell her that you really want to know her soul. Then proceed to stare up her nose while performing pranayama on your own. Continue until enlightened or flattened by a good left hook. Thank you for consulting the Oracle. Your Paypal account has been charged accordingly. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nosers of Reality
Do you get hosed when you nose too much? Do bozos nose more? Who nose where the time goes? Do you still nose when you doze? Is "I nose" just a pose? I nose it deep down to my toes Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Nosers of Reality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Unc, lighten up. The last sentence was a funny joke. Read it > > > with the preceeding paragraph(s). Judy has a good sense of humor. > > > > I am aware that she probably thought it was funny, > > in a putdown sorta way. I am also aware of the > > hundreds of posts she has written over the years on > > the value of consistency and her need to hear the > > *same* answer every time. That's why she likes > > Maharishi. She can't deal with teachers (to say > > nothing of lowlives like ourselves) who deal in > > contradictions and have different answers to life's > > questions, depending on the state of attention or > > POV that is in operation at the time. I was poking > > fun at that. It's probably one of those "you have > > to have been there" kinda things... Just an observation: Byron Katie said that in here life, when ever she has felt lonely or insecure, she can trace it back to putting her nose in i) others peoples' business or ii) God's business (what IS), instead of her own business for which she said there was ample work to do. Clearly that doesn't work in reverse for you: sticking your nose in Judy's business doesn't appear to make you lonely or insecure. Do you get the same result when you stick your nose in God's business "Listen here God, don't give me none of that "It IS" crap. This (whatever) should not be. I will not accept it." I am only interested because I am sticking to my own business in trying to figure out what path I want to follow: keeping my nose in my business or sticking it both in other's and God's business. You seem to be doing pretty well doing the latter so I wanted to be clearer on the benefits. And what the hell is Byron Katie sticking her nose in my business for? And does God only keep her nose in her business? Or does she put it in others' business? If you get a nose job, does it lessen your ability to stick your nose in others' business? And what are those Nosers of Reality all about? I think Socrates nailed it when he said "nose thyself". But as I always say, what my girl friend doesn't nose won't hurt her. Reveal thy wisdom unto me. I wants to nose. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Unc, lighten up. The last sentence was a funny joke. Read it > > > with the preceeding paragraph(s). Judy has a good sense of humor. > > > > I am aware that she probably thought it was funny, > > in a putdown sorta way. I am also aware of the > > hundreds of posts she has written over the years on > > the value of consistency and her need to hear the > > *same* answer every time. That's why she likes > > Maharishi. She can't deal with teachers (to say > > nothing of lowlives like ourselves) who deal in > > contradictions and have different answers to life's > > questions, depending on the state of attention or > > POV that is in operation at the time. I was poking > > fun at that. It's probably one of those "you have > > to have been there" kinda things... Just an observation: Byron Katie said that in here life, when ever she has felt lonely or insecure, she can trace it back to putting her nose in i) others peoples' business or ii) God's business (what IS), instead of her own business for which she said there was ample work to do. Clearly that doesn't work in reverse for you: sticking your nose in Judy's business doesn't appear to make you lonely or insecure. Do you get the same result when you stick your nose in God's business "Listen here God, don't give me none of that "It IS" crap. This (whatever) should not be. I will not accept it." I am only interested because I am sticking to my own business in trying to figure out what path I want to follow: keeping my nose in my business or sticking it both in other's and God's business. You seem to be doing pretty well doing the latter so I wanted to be clearer on the benefits. And what the hell is Byron Katie sticking her nose in my business for? And does God only keep her nose in her business? Or does she put it in others' business? If you get a nose job, does it lessen your ability to stick your nose in others' business? And what are those Nosers of Reality all about? I think Socrates nailed it when he said "n I wants to nose. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am aware that she probably thought it was funny, > in a putdown sorta way. I am also aware of the > hundreds of posts she has written over the years on > the value of consistency and her need to hear the > *same* answer every time. That's why she likes > Maharishi. She can't deal with teachers (to say > nothing of lowlives like ourselves) who deal in > contradictions and have different answers to life's > questions, depending on the state of attention or > POV that is in operation at the time. I was poking > fun at that. It's probably one of those "you have > to have been there" kinda things... Barry can say this only because you guys *haven't* been there. If you had, you would have seen hundreds of posts from me over the years that positively *revel* in contradictions, including those in MMY's teaching. I've said many times I wished MMY would make more of the contradictions than he does. Barry and I have had many exchanges on this very topic, so it isn't as though he'd missed those posts. There is, of course, also a value to consistency, in its place. The irony here is that Barry is having trouble dealing with the apparent contradiction of someone valuing consistency, on the one hand, and valuing paradox, on the other. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Unc, lighten up. The last sentence was a funny joke. Read it > > > with the preceeding paragraph(s). Judy has a good sense of > > > humor. > > > > I am aware that she probably thought it was funny, > > in a putdown sorta way. I am also aware of the > > hundreds of posts she has written over the years on > > the value of consistency and her need to hear the > > *same* answer every time. That's why she likes > > Maharishi. She can't deal with teachers (to say > > nothing of lowlives like ourselves) who deal in > > contradictions and have different answers to life's > > questions, depending on the state of attention or > > POV that is in operation at the time. I was poking > > fun at that. It's probably one of those "you have > > to have been there" kinda things... > > I don't have the benefit of your deep accumulated layers of > interpretative filters regarding Judy. I just looked at her words > for what they were, and laughed. Go Figure! (Which in its deeper > ancient meaning is -- go look at it as a forground / background > figure and see if another interpreation of the same "picture" > pops up) I stand corrected. If someone laughed, it had value. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Unc, lighten up. The last sentence was a funny joke. Read it > > with the preceeding paragraph(s). Judy has a good sense of humor. > > I am aware that she probably thought it was funny, > in a putdown sorta way. I am also aware of the > hundreds of posts she has written over the years on > the value of consistency and her need to hear the > *same* answer every time. That's why she likes > Maharishi. She can't deal with teachers (to say > nothing of lowlives like ourselves) who deal in > contradictions and have different answers to life's > questions, depending on the state of attention or > POV that is in operation at the time. I was poking > fun at that. It's probably one of those "you have > to have been there" kinda things... I don't have the benefit of your deep accumulated layers of interpretative filters regarding Judy. I just looked at her words for what they were, and laughed. Go Figure! (Which in its deeper ancient meaning is -- go look at it as a forground / background figure and see if another interpreation of the same "picture" pops up) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "eptfnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. It is the method of the > > > > witless. > > > > > > The more a self is struggling to survive, terrified > > > of realizing its true nature as Self and desperate > > > to try anything to prevent that from happening, one > > > of the best "techniques" available is to look down > > > on everyone as lower or less intelligent than you > > > are. *Especially* those who seem to actually have > > > achieved (even if temporarily) the thing you've been > > > claiming to want for 30 years but doing everything > > > in your power to avoid. > > > > > > You'll get used to it... > > > > You seem to understand the mechanics well. Personal experience? > > $0.02 > > Once you really get tired of all the programs, one upmanship > and other utter nonsence you will simply let go and finally relax, > it might feel like one gigantic bowel movement. > > There's no point in bragging about letting go of all the > crap accumulated over a life time(s). Its just crap. > > Spiritual constipation is the ultimate blockage. So perhaps sadhana is the spiritual ex-lax that leads to the spiritual full Monte -- Swarupa of Krishna. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 10/1/05 10:32:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Bonzi! Looks like a variation of the WW2 Japanese flag of > emperialism called "'the rising son " > > OOOPs sorry for that! I meant Rising Sun! Glad you corrected that. The "rising son" flag shows Christ on the cross with a hardon. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "eptfnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What do others here think of the flag design? > > Located at http://tmbulletin.net/images/GCWP-flag.jpg It looks like a Jerry Garcia tie. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible
> > > Speaking for myself, if I may, nothing I've seen > > > of what Rory says is new. And while thinking about > > > living Brahman can be fun, even intellectually > > > stimulating, in my experience such reflection doesn't > > > do anything to put Brahman "within my grasp." > > > > > > > Or that *everything* is just a joke to you? > > > > > > Gee, Jim, some here have been suggesting that > > > seeing everything as a huge joke is a function > > > of advanced spiritual development, and that taking > > > anything seriously indicates a distinct lack of > > > same. > > > > > > I do wish all the folks who know what's best for > > > the rest of us would get together and agree on > > > their talking points. > > > > That your problem, Judy, in one sentence. (The > > last one above.) > > > > You value consistency more than you do reality. > > > > You want easy answers instead of the real answers. > > > > In other words, you want the simplistic answers > > that Maharishi's been giving you for decades > > rather than answers that might be more accurate, > > but require some work on your part. > > Unc, lighten up. The last sentence was a funny joke. Read it > with the preceeding paragraph(s). Judy has a good sense of humor. I am aware that she probably thought it was funny, in a putdown sorta way. I am also aware of the hundreds of posts she has written over the years on the value of consistency and her need to hear the *same* answer every time. That's why she likes Maharishi. She can't deal with teachers (to say nothing of lowlives like ourselves) who deal in contradictions and have different answers to life's questions, depending on the state of attention or POV that is in operation at the time. I was poking fun at that. It's probably one of those "you have to have been there" kinda things... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?
In a message dated 10/1/05 10:32:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bonzi! Looks like a variation of the WW2 Japanese flag of emperialism called "'the rising son " OOOPs sorry for that! I meant Rising Sun! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?
In a message dated 10/1/05 10:07:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do others here think of the flag design? Bonzi! Looks like a variation of the WW2 Japanese flag of emperialism called "'the rising son " To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. It is the method of the > > > witless. > > > > The more a self is struggling to survive, terrified > > of realizing its true nature as Self and desperate > > to try anything to prevent that from happening, one > > of the best "techniques" available is to look down > > on everyone as lower or less intelligent than you > > are. *Especially* those who seem to actually have > > achieved (even if temporarily) the thing you've been > > claiming to want for 30 years but doing everything > > in your power to avoid. > > > > You'll get used to it... > > You seem to understand the mechanics well. Personal experience? $0.02 Once you really get tired of all the programs, one upmanship and other utter nonsence you will simply let go and finally relax, it might feel like one gigantic bowel movement. There's no point in bragging about letting go of all the crap accumulated over a life time(s). Its just crap. Spiritual constipation is the ultimate blockage. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. It is the method of the > > witless. > > The more a self is struggling to survive, terrified > of realizing its true nature as Self and desperate > to try anything to prevent that from happening, one > of the best "techniques" available is to look down > on everyone as lower or less intelligent than you > are. *Especially* those who seem to actually have > achieved (even if temporarily) the thing you've been > claiming to want for 30 years but doing everything > in your power to avoid. > > You'll get used to it... You seem to understand the mechanics well. Personal experience? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?
What do others here think of the flag design? Located at http://tmbulletin.net/images/GCWP-flag.jpg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > TM is completely non-picky. > > > > Clearly, given that so many TM woman apparently slept with Unc. > > Touché. :-) Hey, I don't understand it; I just took > advantage of it. If so many of you other guys hadn't > been so busy being holy and celibate and all, you > could have shared in the nookie, too. I know. I meditated through the sexual revolution. I kept wondering what all that banging was. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > And maybe some people can't laugh and take a joke. > > > > > > So, are you saying you actually do interpret what Rory says with > > > regard to living Brahman as wise and worthy of reflection, but in > > > this case, just chose to joke about it? > > > > Speaking for myself, if I may, nothing I've seen > > of what Rory says is new. And while thinking about > > living Brahman can be fun, even intellectually > > stimulating, in my experience such reflection doesn't > > do anything to put Brahman "within my grasp." > > > > > Or that *everything* is just a joke to you? > > > > Gee, Jim, some here have been suggesting that > > seeing everything as a huge joke is a function > > of advanced spiritual development, and that taking > > anything seriously indicates a distinct lack of > > same. > > > > I do wish all the folks who know what's best for > > the rest of us would get together and agree on > > their talking points. > > That your problem, Judy, in one sentence. (The > last one above.) > > You value consistency more than you do reality. > > You want easy answers instead of the real answers. > > In other words, you want the simplistic answers > that Maharishi's been giving you for decades > rather than answers that might be more accurate, > but require some work on your part. Unc, lighten up. The last sentence was a funny joke. Read it with the preceeding paragraph(s). Judy has a good sense of humor. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama gives you a Test
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hari Om, >Dalai Lama has devised a small test for you. > I have attached a PPS file. Scroll down to the bottom and click > View Attachments. Those of us reading the group on the Yahoo website cannot ever see attachments; they are filtered out (and a good thing, too). So I can't tell for sure, not having seen the doc you posted, but I have seen several "tests" on the Internet purporting to have come from the Dalai Lama. Not one of them has ever had anything to do with him, and my suspicion is that this one doesn't, either. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a first > > > > > > > > cause BIG > > > > > > > > BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological > > > > > > > > ideas...not science. They are based on a complete > > > > > > > > misunderstanding of time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agree about the creator, don't agree about the > > > > > > > Big Bang. There's some very good scientific > > > > > > > evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me > > > > > > > to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of > > > > > > > how the Absolute manifested as the relative. > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's the point? To find "scientific" > > > > > > "evidence" to "prove" Maharishi right? Thanks > > > > > > for clarifying. :-) > > > > > > > > > > What's the point of what?? You fantasizing *again*?>> > > > > > > > > Why are you constantly rude to people? Almost all your posts > > > > to me were sarcastic and condescending. What is the point. > > > > > > It's an evolutionary thang, Off. You just have > > > too much white matter and too little gray matter > > > in your brain to be worthy of decent treatment. > > > Maybe next lifetime... :-)>>> > > > > Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. It is the method of the > > witless. > > The more a self is struggling to survive, terrified > of realizing its true nature as Self and desperate > to try anything to prevent that from happening, one > of the best "techniques" available is to look down > on everyone as lower or less intelligent than you > are. *Especially* those who seem to actually have > achieved (even if temporarily) the thing you've been > claiming to want for 30 years but doing everything > in your power to avoid. So *that's* why you're so sarcastic and condescending. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
> > > > > > > I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a first > > > > > > > cause BIG > > > > > > > BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological > > > > > > > ideas...not science. They are based on a complete > > > > > > > misunderstanding of time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Agree about the creator, don't agree about the > > > > > > Big Bang. There's some very good scientific > > > > > > evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me > > > > > > to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of > > > > > > how the Absolute manifested as the relative. > > > > > > > > > > And that's the point? To find "scientific" > > > > > "evidence" to "prove" Maharishi right? Thanks > > > > > for clarifying. :-) > > > > > > > > What's the point of what?? You fantasizing *again*?>> > > > > > > Why are you constantly rude to people? Almost all your posts > > > to me were sarcastic and condescending. What is the point. > > > > It's an evolutionary thang, Off. You just have > > too much white matter and too little gray matter > > in your brain to be worthy of decent treatment. > > Maybe next lifetime... :-)>>> > > Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. It is the method of the > witless. The more a self is struggling to survive, terrified of realizing its true nature as Self and desperate to try anything to prevent that from happening, one of the best "techniques" available is to look down on everyone as lower or less intelligent than you are. *Especially* those who seem to actually have achieved (even if temporarily) the thing you've been claiming to want for 30 years but doing everything in your power to avoid. You'll get used to it... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a first > > > > > > cause BIG > > > > > > BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological > > > > > > ideas...not science. They are based on a complete > > > > > > misunderstanding of time. > > > > > > > > > > Agree about the creator, don't agree about the > > > > > Big Bang. There's some very good scientific > > > > > evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me > > > > > to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of > > > > > how the Absolute manifested as the relative. > > > > > > > > And that's the point? To find "scientific" > > > > "evidence" to "prove" Maharishi right? Thanks > > > > for clarifying. :-) > > > > > > What's the point of what?? You fantasizing *again*?>> > > > > Why are you constantly rude to people? Almost all your posts to me > > were sarcastic and condescending. What is the point. > > It's an evolutionary thang, Off. You just have > too much white matter and too little gray matter > in your brain to be worthy of decent treatment. > Maybe next lifetime... :-)>>> Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. It is the method of the witless. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > And maybe some people can't laugh and take a joke. > > > > > > So, are you saying you actually do interpret what Rory says > > > with regard to living Brahman as wise and worthy of reflection, > > > but in this case, just chose to joke about it? > > > > Speaking for myself, if I may, nothing I've seen > > of what Rory says is new. And while thinking about > > living Brahman can be fun, even intellectually > > stimulating, in my experience such reflection doesn't > > do anything to put Brahman "within my grasp." > > > > > Or that *everything* is just a joke to you? > > > > Gee, Jim, some here have been suggesting that > > seeing everything as a huge joke is a function > > of advanced spiritual development, and that taking > > anything seriously indicates a distinct lack of > > same. > > > > I do wish all the folks who know what's best for > > the rest of us would get together and agree on > > their talking points. > > That your problem, Judy, in one sentence. (The > last one above.) > > You value consistency more than you do reality. > > You want easy answers instead of the real answers. > > In other words, you want the simplistic answers > that Maharishi's been giving you for decades > rather than answers that might be more accurate, > but require some work on your part. Unbelievable. WAKE UP, BARRY. What the heck good is all your highly developed consciousness doing you if it leaves you unable to function in the relative? I am *not* going to start using smileys just to help you avoid embarrassing yourself, sorry. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a first > > > > > cause BIG > > > > > BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological > > > > > ideas...not science. They are based on a complete > > > > > misunderstanding of time. > > > > > > > > Agree about the creator, don't agree about the > > > > Big Bang. There's some very good scientific > > > > evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me > > > > to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of > > > > how the Absolute manifested as the relative. > > > > > > And that's the point? To find "scientific" > > > "evidence" to "prove" Maharishi right? Thanks > > > for clarifying. :-) > > > > What's the point of what?? You fantasizing *again*?>> > > Why are you constantly rude to people? Almost all your posts to me > were sarcastic and condescending. What is the point. It's an evolutionary thang, Off. You just have too much white matter and too little gray matter in your brain to be worthy of decent treatment. Maybe next lifetime... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > By what logic can you say the sun is not a conscious being? > > > > > > > > Where did I say it wasn't?? I said--see above--that > > > > I'd had the experience that it *was*, and that I would > > > > be thrilled to have scientific confirmation of that > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > How on *earth* do you turn that into my saying the > > > > sun is *not* a conscious being?? > > > > > > Well, you said that it is not so because it has not been > > > confirmed by your scientists. (even though you know better). > > > > I said NO SUCH THING. Get a *grip*, man! > > So you do agree that the sun could be thought of as conscious? > You seem unclear on what it is you think. No, you seem unclear on what I said. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a first cause BIG > > > > BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological ideas...not > > > > science. They are based on a complete misunderstanding of time. > > > > > > Agree about the creator, don't agree about the > > > Big Bang. There's some very good scientific > > > evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me > > > to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of > > > how the Absolute manifested as the relative. > > > > And that's the point? To find "scientific" > > "evidence" to "prove" Maharishi right? Thanks > > for clarifying. :-) > > What's the point of what?? You fantasizing *again*?>> Why are you constantly rude to people? Almost all your posts to me were sarcastic and condescending. What is the point. OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a first cause BIG > > > BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological ideas...not > > > science. They are based on a complete misunderstanding of time. > > > > Agree about the creator, don't agree about the > > Big Bang. There's some very good scientific > > evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me > > to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of > > how the Absolute manifested as the relative. > > And that's the point? To find "scientific" > "evidence" to "prove" Maharishi right? Thanks > for clarifying. :-) What's the point of what?? You fantasizing *again*? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > By what logic can you say the sun is not a conscious being? > > > > > > Where did I say it wasn't?? I said--see above--that > > > I'd had the experience that it *was*, and that I would > > > be thrilled to have scientific confirmation of that > > > experience. > > > > > > How on *earth* do you turn that into my saying the > > > sun is *not* a conscious being?? > > > > Well, you said that it is not so because it has not been confirmed > > by your scientists. (even though you know better). > > I said NO SUCH THING. Get a *grip*, man! > So you do agree that the sun could be thought of as conscious? You seem unclear on what it is you think. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The talent for deception
Hari Om, Thanks for the Article, Sri.Stein Jason ---OriginalMessage-- From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 01:54:18 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] The talent for deception Study: Adept Liars' Brains Are Built Differently By Robert Lee Hotz L.A. Times Staff Writer 10:47 AM PDT, September 30, 2005 In the lexicon of lying, there are white lies and bare-faced lies. Facts can be fudged, forged or shaded. There are fibbers, fabricators and feckless fabulists. By whatever clinical term, the truth simply is not in some people. Now scientists have an anatomical inkling why. A new study from the University of Southern California, published in the October issue of the British Journal of Psychiatry, suggests that the talent for compulsive deception is embedded in the structure of the brain itself. People who habitually lie and cheat - pathological liars - appear to have much more white matter, which speeds communication between neurons, in the prefrontal cortex than normal people, the researchers found. They also have fewer actual neurons. The differences affect a portion of the brain, located just behind the forehead, that enables people to feel remorse, learn moral behavior and plan complex strategies. The surplus of connections between neurons might enable these people to be more adept at the complex neural networking that underlies deceit. Lying is hard work and these brains may be better equipped to handle it, the researchers said. "Lying is cognitively complex," said USC psychologist Adrian Raine, the senior scientist on the research project. "It is not easy to lie. It is certainly more difficult than telling the truth. Some people have a biological advantage in lying. It gives them a slight edge." The researchers recruited 108 volunteers, then sorted them into groups based on psychological tests designed to determine how often they lied. The volunteers were then scanned using magnetic structural imaging to obtain detailed anatomical images of their brain tissue. The group of compulsive liars had 25.7% more white matter in the prefrontal cortex and 14.2% less gray matter than the normal control group. "To our knowledge, it is the first imaging study on people who lie, cheat and deceive as a group," Raine said. http://tinyurl.com/8vxjk Two more points on this, the first from anotherreport on the same study: "Pathological liars have less gray matter and more white matter in their prefrontal cortex, according to a report in the October issue of the British Journal of Psychiatry. Gray matter consists of the cells that do the thinking, while white matter consists of the cells that connect them." http://www.healthcentral.com/newsdetail/408/528266.html And this insightful analysis from a commenteron Kevin Drum's Political Animal blog: "What the study seems to be saying is that the people who are great liars have less grey matter to work with, which is the element that does the serious calculating work, so it's terrifically harder for them to work out the actual truth of something, but really easy to make up a great story about it, a story that outwardly fits tightly to the few most obvious facts which are all they can really determine." http://tinyurl.com/c9f82 Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > << motor for the new DD21 battleship>> > > What is that? I'll have to get back to you on that. My post came from a London sidha who is very up on what he calls zero point energy. Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't have any particular affection for > > Schroedinger's cat. I'd be delighted if someone > > could show it was a fallacy. I'd be thrilled if > > celestial bodies could be shown to have > > consciousness. I had a revelatory experience once > > of becoming aware of the sun as a conscious being. > > Nice. What sort of Personality did it show you? > > :-) It lied all the time. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But your response must be a joke too. I get it. haha. > > > > > > Come on Judy. Its not nice to make fun of Unc's health problems. Now now...you should think these things through before suggesting them. If my dick fell off from natural causes, Judy couldn't make it fall off using the Dickwhammy. Inconsistent. No gold star for you today, and you have to stay indoors during recess. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Twitting Rory's expressions, just for the record, > > > > > does NOT also require us to "deny" (or otherwise > > > > > miss) the true Reality behind them. > > > > > > > > Yes, but a consistently 'twitting' of those expressions > possibly > > > > prevents some deeper reflection. > > > > > > Maybe in some cases, but my term was *require*, which > > > appeared to be what you were suggesting. > > > > > > In fact, the process of twitting--as opposed to simply > > > dismissing--*mandates* reflection on the expressions > > > in order to come up with a good twit. Whether the > > > reflection goes any further is a different question, > > > but my point was that one doesn't automatically rule > > > out the other. > > > > That depends on how consistent the one response is vs. the other. > > If it is always a twit, that appears to be a good way to prevent > > further reflection. > > I don't think that's necessarily the case, first; second, > it's not "always a twit" anyway. Usually Rory is taken > pretty (horrors!) seriously. It just seemed to be time > for a twit-fest. Translation: people were taking him seriously and not me. Can't have that. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > TM is completely non-picky. > > Clearly, given that so many TM woman apparently slept with Unc. Touché. :-) Hey, I don't understand it; I just took advantage of it. If so many of you other guys hadn't been so busy being holy and celibate and all, you could have shared in the nookie, too. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Multiple Interpretations Possible
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > And maybe some people can't laugh and take a joke. > > > > So, are you saying you actually do interpret what Rory says with > > regard to living Brahman as wise and worthy of reflection, but in > > this case, just chose to joke about it? > > Speaking for myself, if I may, nothing I've seen > of what Rory says is new. And while thinking about > living Brahman can be fun, even intellectually > stimulating, in my experience such reflection doesn't > do anything to put Brahman "within my grasp." > > > Or that *everything* is just a joke to you? > > Gee, Jim, some here have been suggesting that > seeing everything as a huge joke is a function > of advanced spiritual development, and that taking > anything seriously indicates a distinct lack of > same. > > I do wish all the folks who know what's best for > the rest of us would get together and agree on > their talking points. That your problem, Judy, in one sentence. (The last one above.) You value consistency more than you do reality. You want easy answers instead of the real answers. In other words, you want the simplistic answers that Maharishi's been giving you for decades rather than answers that might be more accurate, but require some work on your part. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
> > I also believe that a first cause CREATOR, or, a first cause BIG > > BANG, are both primitive and quaint mythological ideas...not > > science. They are based on a complete misunderstanding of time. > > Agree about the creator, don't agree about the > Big Bang. There's some very good scientific > evidence for the Big Bang; *and* it seems to me > to map pretty well onto MMY's explication of > how the Absolute manifested as the relative. And that's the point? To find "scientific" "evidence" to "prove" Maharishi right? Thanks for clarifying. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi refuses to Levitate.??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is a subject of some interest to me, and since > > you are often very good at expressing the inexpressible > > in words, if you feel like saying more about these > > perceptions, I'm all ears. > > Thanks, I appreciate your appreciation; I'll give it a shot. The TM > and TM-sidhis felt obsolete upon awakening; I had no desire to > practice either of those programs anymore per se, so I am not > speaking of them specifically. > However, the desire to fly *did* remain, intensified if anything, > and in a way served as a focus or impetus of my continuing studies > which culminated in the "group ascension" spoken of here earlier > and in my bio. Between those two points (say a 4 year period), I > *did* take great joy in the spontaneous upwelling of desires and > the siddhis of their fulfillment. (Some of these included conscious > co-creating of world events, weather-control, volcanos, talking > with animals, manifesting subtle essences, and the like. Most of > these I pretty quickly abjured, as I saw they were leading in a > non-evolutionary path for me, making me a "deity" rather than a > human -- a less complete dharma, not what I came here for at that > time.) Yup. That's what I was interested in. It's the path that Rama took. And see how that turned out. > More recently, though, I have spent years (I think) more > consciously *not* practicing these second-nature abilities > (mostly by then the minor ones of knowledge, healing, shaktipat, > and so on), as they seemed not always to be appropriate: like > talking too much, instead of listening. Another wise decision IMO. Good metaphor. > They seemed at times to be habitual short-cuts that > actually *prevented* greater depth and intimacy and healing and > self-knowledge -- greater human-ness, IOW. This absention has not > always been there, by any means, but I have come to see its > usefulness. Thanks for explaining. > :-) Oo. Nasty emoticon. It must mean something nefarious. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] VidyaaraNya?
Anybody read one of the biographies of Shankara, "Shankara-dig-vijaya" by (Shankaraacaarya?) Maadhava VidyaaraNya? I seem to recall that in it Shankara "yogic-flies" over some mountains to a nearby village. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
