[FairfieldLife] Re: 4 years to live

2007-04-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 1923 Rudolf Steiner predicted the dire state of today's honeybee. He stated that, within fifty to eighty years, we would see the consequences of mechanizing the forces that had previously operated organically

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:29 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I do know that once ad hominem arguments are used any reasoned, respectful discussion is over. Amen, Curtis. Thanks for this well-reasoned response to Jim's

[FairfieldLife] When one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread Robert Gimbel
(snip) My criticism of selling yagyas comes from its theory as well as its practice. I don't know of any plausible theory of how offering, smoke and food to statues of Indians mythological characters can have an effect on the world without proposing a magical connection.

[FairfieldLife] Excuse(s) for manifesting negativity?

2007-04-25 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend jstein@ wrote: God knows there's no shortage of things to be outraged about. You just can't let 'em steal your peace of mind, nor can you let yourself use them as an excuse not to deal with your own stuff.

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:29 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I do know that once ad hominem arguments are used any reasoned, respectful

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excuses for manifesting negativity

2007-04-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is s easy to say anything, and even mean it deeply, and yet, it is poetry, a song to one's self, not a communication. Just as a riff-on-language on your riff-on-language :-), there *can* be communication in

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: [snip] What the movement does is take money from people

[FairfieldLife] quantum coherence in plants ..

2007-04-25 Thread claudiouk
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Sciencearticle=UPI-1- 20070412-13515700-bc-us-energytransfer.xml U.S. scientists have discovered how, through photosynthesis, solar energy is transferred across molecular systems with nearly 100- percent efficiency. Researchers at the U.S.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 4 years to live

2007-04-25 Thread Patrick Gillam
I'm more worried about the bees going away than I am with the Christ coming back. What does Creme say about honeybees? --- In nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: In 1923 Rudolf Steiner predicted the dire state of today's honeybee.

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread Vaj
On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:24 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: MMY's use of science is as a marketing language with contempt for it methods. When I spent a month with David OJ going over the research, I got a front row seat on how the movement approaches science. They are the pharmaceutical company

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread boo_lives
It's amazing the complex, unrealistic mental gymnastics that people like shemp and brigante go through to pretend that everything the tmo does, like aggressively yagyas and all the other money making schemes that consistently come out year after year, did not originate with MMY. In fact according

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
New, --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: My criticism of selling yagyas comes from its theory as well as its practice. I don't know of any plausible theory of how

[FairfieldLife] Re:DIFFERENT STATES OF CONS/DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS

2007-04-25 Thread Lsoma
QUESTIONS FROM THE COLLECTIVE/Lou Valentino According to MMY the seven states of consciousness can be experienced while in a physical body. Is this true? NO. One can have intervals of experiencing TC, CC or GC. Full experience of CC would mean you have at least entered the sixth

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's amazing the complex, unrealistic mental gymnastics that people like shemp and brigante go through to pretend that everything the tmo does, like aggressively yagyas and all the other money making schemes that

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
There are people much more qualified than I am who have already done this work, guys like Barry Markofsky (Sp?). For me being a strong advocate for this perspective is really over. I spent some time when I first shifted my perspective on MMY and TM attempting to persuade people about my POV.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 4 years to live

2007-04-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm more worried about the bees going away than I am with the Christ coming back. What does Creme say about honeybees? Cream goes well with honey. --- In nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save the Dome, send $

2007-04-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 23, 2007, at 8:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/23/2007 8:43:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FW: The roof of the Men's Golden Dome is leaking and needs

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:14 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I have participated in yagyas with MMY and outside the movement. My Vedic wedding was about 5 hours long. Practically longer than the marriage! (sorry, Curtis, couldn't resist.:)) It was a blast. I got a great rent-a-pundit from one

[FairfieldLife] Re: 4 years to live

2007-04-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: I'm more worried about the bees going away than I am with the Christ coming back. What does Creme say about honeybees? Nothing, as far as I know. But anyone can post questions to Mr. Creme for the monthly

[FairfieldLife] Womens Shelter e -invitation

2007-04-25 Thread Rick Archer
From a friend: Hi...! Woulld you please invite women you know who might be interested in supporting the Women's Crisis Center by taking a great workshop The Passion Test by Janet Atwood? This event is Sunday 1:30 at Morning Star. All proceeds go to The Womens Shelter which serves Fairfield and

[FairfieldLife] Yagyas and global warming

2007-04-25 Thread shempmcgurk
If new.morning and co. were truly interested in combatting manmade global warming they would henseforth demand and insist that any yagyas that they participate in or pay for no longer burns candles or camphyr or anything else during the ceremonies as these things unnecessarily add to global

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip What I find absolutely fascinating is the way your very reasonable and well thought-out responses are causing all sorts of angst and almost panic in the ranks of the still- faithful Actually, Sal, I believe

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this discussion with John Knapp when he asked me to write for his site. I am not against such sites, but I told him that I feel like this information is all out there for people who want it. Virtually no

[FairfieldLife] Hacking the Vedas

2007-04-25 Thread Vaj
http://davidbrucehughes.zaadz.com/blog/2007/2/hacking_the_vedas Are you using crippleware? Yes junior, you probably are. And once you've broken the seal, you can't get your money back.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas and global warming

2007-04-25 Thread at_man_and_brahman
I have to butt in. Burning things that come from the natural environment do not add CO2 to the atmosphere. That happens as a result of burning fossil fuels that have locked these molecules out of the natural ecosystem for millions of years. So long as the materials burned in yagyas have no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Killing time: tat savituH

2007-04-25 Thread sinhlnx
--You're not making sense. You're saying that nobody in the entire world is pronouncing it correctly? Baloney. Just buy the audio tape from Shree Maa and go along with her. Don't let eruditeness get in the way of progress. I suppose, by the same reasoning; you are undecided about practicing

[FairfieldLife] Dutch TV Report on 2007 Bilderberg Conference

2007-04-25 Thread Bhairitu
In Dutch and English with subtitles: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5370178078513730189 Are you one of the 3 billion?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

2007-04-25 Thread Duveyoung
The TM fascists did this too. 1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy The CIA was said to have infiltrated the TM movement, Christians were openly trying to stop the movement in schools and were considered as evil, L.B. was publishing a rag of unstressing. Easy to make enemies

[FairfieldLife] George will finally get a medal for the war he started

2007-04-25 Thread Sal Sunshine
The Yellow Badge of Cowardice http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/25/736/

[FairfieldLife] Habitable earth-like Exo-planet found

2007-04-25 Thread Jason Spock
Distant planet judged possibly habitable April 23, 2007 Courtesy ESO and World Science staff In a findshy;ing that if conshy;firmed could stand as a landshy;mark in history, asshy;troshy;noshy;mers have reshy;ported disshy;coshy;vshy;ershy;ing the most Earth-like planshy;et

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

2007-04-25 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/25/07 2:28:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I come in the door, and I say, I'm here to give a donation, and he snapped his fingers at me exactly like a Nazi commandant and said, Give to me, in a very brusque voice. He took the check and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

2007-04-25 Thread Jason Spock
Chopra's father stabilised Maharishi when he was sick in 1992, in india and sent him to London. Do you think Maharishi is grateful to Chopra for that.?? Why erase all traces of his association with the TM mov 't.?? Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007

[FairfieldLife] Re: Killing time: tat savituH

2007-04-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: suppose, by the same reasoning; you are undecided about practicing TM because of uncertainity about the pronunciation. FWIW, my meditation seems more effective if I keep in mind the detail about the pronuncition of my

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Killing time: tat savituH

2007-04-25 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/25/07 5:01:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW, my meditation seems more effective if I keep in mind the detail about the pronuncition of my mantra that was mentioned by my instructor during my initiation. :0 Get checked

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas and global warming

2007-04-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to butt in. I will read no further. This at_man_and brahman poster is obviously biased from the get- go. He is a cigarette smoker (notice the butt reference) and, as such, is in no position to pass

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save the Dome, send $

2007-04-25 Thread lurkernomore20002000
snip Also, it turns out there isn't money in the regular University operating budget for major repairs either. Tap Girish. Methinks there could be some dough there. lruk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save the Dome, send $

2007-04-25 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Also, it turns out there isn't money in the regular University operating budget for major repairs either. Tap Girish. Methinks there could be some dough there. lruk No shit. Chump change

[FairfieldLife] Slicing Through Spiritual Elitism, counterpoint to Hacking the Vedas

2007-04-25 Thread Vaj
http://jake.zaadz.com/blog/2007/3/slicing_through_spiritual_elitism

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist TM, in 10 easy steps

2007-04-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Hey Om Edg Jedi; with metaphor and simile, gulag and nazis. This piece is quite the progression of recollection and experience put together. A lot of truth in it. Thanks for the perspective. i appreciate your taking the time to share it, it's a good read to think about. -Doug in FF ---

[FairfieldLife] Re:DIFFERENT STATES OF CONS/DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS

2007-04-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Yeah, i agree. Is my experience too. -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QUESTIONS FROM THE COLLECTIVE/Lou Valentino According to MMY the seven states of consciousness can be experienced while in a physical body. Is this true? NO. One can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

2007-04-25 Thread Kenny H
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and yet, because I'm posting here, I'm willing to bet that I cannot get a dome badge now. Edg I used to post here fairly often, I was fairly critical about some things, and, in fact, I wrote letters to both Hagelin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

2007-04-25 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once went to give the movement a donation, and I ended up having to give it to this guy whose name escapes me (he drowned in rapids in Central America.) Bobby Warren. His last words supposedly were, I'm the worlds

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:14 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I have participated in yagyas with MMY and outside the movement. My Vedic wedding was about 5 hours long. Practically longer than the marriage! (sorry,

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:24 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: MMY's use of science is as a marketing language with contempt for it methods. When I spent a month with David OJ going over the research, I got a front row seat on

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:29 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I do know that once ad hominem arguments are used any reasoned, respectful

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi Pundit Vids?

2007-04-25 Thread off_world_beings
Anyone got any Vids of large groups of Maharishi Pundits they care to post online. I remember seeing one of a very large group doing a yagya in Maharishi Nagar. Doubt if there have been any large groups like that since. Would ba a good historical video OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re:DIFFERENT STATES OF CONS/DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS

2007-04-25 Thread matrixmonitor
---there's no evidence for much of this crap. More succintly, one should not confuse what happens to the body (say, ultimate biological purification; where the body supposedly dissolves into Light - the Rainbow Light Body); with Self-Realization. Of course, there is a foundation of tacit

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY's use of science is as a marketing language with contempt for it methods. When I spent a month with David OJ going over the research, I got a front row seat on how the movement approaches science. They

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, if your mouth is full of salt, you cannot taste the sugar. Jim, I know you think your words and comments are profound and worthy of eight posts in a 24 hr. period, but I assure you, they are

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
On the other hand, if your mouth is full of salt, you cannot taste the sugar. I've never spoken to you this way Jim. There is no salt in my mouth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: You discount my experience -- thats fine. Particularly if you have repeated personal experience in which no value was gained, and no experience was occuring.

[FairfieldLife] Re: when one looks to the sky for rain, the rain falls

2007-04-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
Great responses man, thanks. Lots to think about. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: You discount my experience -- thats

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

2007-04-25 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Two videos

2007-04-25 Thread authfriend
John Coltrane's Giant Steps, with the musical notation appearing on screen as he plays. Even if you can't read music, this is pretty neat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kotK9FNEYU MySpace video with clips of 747s and 777s making successful but heart-stopping cross-wind landings (the wind is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas and global warming

2007-04-25 Thread at_man_and_brahman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman at_man_and_brahman@ wrote: I have to butt in. I will read no further. This at_man_and brahman poster make that im-poster is obviously biased from