[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, metoostill metoost...@... wrote: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:12:39 -0500 Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin From: Invincible America communication@ No hurricanes - No hurricanes or tropical storms penetrated U.S. borders. Crime Rate Plummets-On July 20, the Washington Post reported, Violent crime has plummeted in the Washington area and in major cities across the country, a trend criminologists describe as baffling and unexpected. Our group has accomplished wonders. Let's keep the momentum of positivity growing in America. Thank you for being here in wonderful Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. JAI GURU DEV Copyright 2009, Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation. Publication or reproduction of this communication in any form is prohibited without permission. The last sentence is bizarre - to copyright an announcement and prohibit its publication without permission - it would seem to evidence fear of exposing your notions to the marketplace of ideas, along with an idea that narrow control of the information flow is vital to achieving your goal. The language that Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation uses is similar to what most universities use in copyrighting their web publications -- from Loyola Marymount University here in SoCal: All work created and posted on the site is copyrighted and may not be reproduced without explicit written permission from the Web, New Media + Design. The information presented on our site comes from a variety of sources, including not only official LMU departments, but also unofficial sources and individuals. Such works include, but are not limited to, textual materials, graphics, and photographic images. These pages may also contain material in which the copyright is held by the creator or someone to whom he/she has assigned the copyright. Use of these materials is limited to personal study, teaching, and research. They may not be reproduced in multiple copies or for further distribution without the permission of the owner. http://www.lmu.edu/resources/Copyright.htm The restrictive language does not interfere with fair use which is well established in the law -- people can reproduce material within reason from the TM web site without penalty: http://www.publaw.com/work.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D
Some think that the size of the observable universe is to the unobservable universe as a proton is to the observable universe: in all likelihood, the universe itself is much larger than the observable universe. http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-observable-universe.htm http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-observable-universe.htm HOWEVER, most everything out there is empty -- if you squashed everything back together again like it was at bigbang time, the universe-ball would not be big (about 100 light years in diameter if you count only fermions): When the universe was so dense that baryons could not form, it was 10^23 times smaller -- or 10^52 m^3, thus a diameter of about 10^17 meters. 100 light-years SOUNDS large, [but] it's just a small fraction of the size of our galaxy [the Milky Way galaxy is ~100,000 light years in diameter]. http://en.allexperts.com/q/Physics-1358/2008/7/Mass-Earth-vs-mass.htm http://en.allexperts.com/q/Physics-1358/2008/7/Mass-Earth-vs-mass.htm
[FairfieldLife] Oh, bama is kRSNa?
Some random thoughts: According to some DNA-studies, the dark-skinned people of India came from Africa. It seems possible that the name 'kRSNa' (black, dark, dark blue) refers to that fact(?). In the Giitaa Krishna says: sambhavaami yuge yuge Giitaa also states that the Vedic literature mostly created by light skinned nomadic people from the area of modern Afghanistan, I guess, and southern Russia, is rather useless in achieving enlightenment: traiguNyavishayaa vedaa *nistraiguNyo* bhavaarjuna Krishna tries to teach Arjuna ( = white) not to rely on the Vedic BS in trying achieve the highest goals possible for human beans?? Lately people from Africa, especially Kenya, have started to succeed in many areas of life. For instance, when MTV started, initially there were no black artists at all in the videos shown. Nowadays Caucasian artists seem to be rather rare on MTV. It's a well known fact, that black men are, in average, physically much stronger than white men. In my understanding, most base ball and basket ball stars in the USA are Afro-American. They also have a certain lingam that's according to some studies about half an inch longer, in average, than that of Caucasian males. Black people have started to spread all over the world. For instance, IMU, in Sweden they are nowadays a substantial minority.(Not true!) Well, perhaps natural selection shall take care of their becoming whiter in time. (Conan O'Brien is so white prolly because in Ireland sun rarely shines...LOL!) Wasn't Moses of the Old Testament a black person?? Obama certainly is 'kRSNa' but perhaps he also is an incarnation of Krishna...heh! I wonder, what the word 'obama' means as an appellative, if anything... BTW, watch the Black Power (kRSNa-bala?) rule in IAAF World Championships in Athletics, in Berlin, where Jesse Owens prolly made Hitler mad by being so f-ing superior!
[FairfieldLife] US Pluto return, by Dharmaruci
http://astrotabletalk.blogspot.com/2007/03/us-pluto-return_07.html What occurred to me recently is that this level of mistrust cannot endure indefinitely, something has to give, and with Pluto soon to enter Capricorn, it is likely to be the form of government itself that changes. AMERICAN DEMOCRACY AS WE KNOW IT MAY WELL NOT SURVIVE THE PASSAGE OF PLUTO THROUGH CAPRICORN.
[FairfieldLife] Is Religion Ruining Our Health?
Good article aggregated on Huffington Post. I don't really know who Tara Stiles is, but I'd like to takea a yoga class from her. Is Religion Ruining Our Health? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tara-stiles/is-religion-ruining-our-h_b_2\ 59487.html [Tara Stiles] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tara-stiles Tara Stiles http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tara-stiles Tara Stiles is reinventing what it means to practice yoga, and proving that you don't need to wear spandex or call yourself a yoga person in order to make it part of your life. The moment we believe the answers are no longer inside ourselves, waiting without trickery to be uncovered by reflection, meditation, and practice, we are separated from the truth. We become ungrounded by fear and start to look outside and grasp for answers away from our reach. Self-doubt is a part of most everyone's life at some point. When we forget that we are powerful, loving beings, full of potential and endless possibilities, we are subject to fall into the traps of teachings that convince us that we are unworthy, unholy, and small. Finding the answers in something outside of our selves can feel more secure, especially when lots of other people are doing it. Most of us are taught faith when we are young. We are given a set of rules and behaviors to live by or else bad things will happen and there will be no eternal salvation. Religion takes the trust away from the individual and replaces it with an insurance plan for eternal salvation paid off over a lifetime with rules and fear. Is going to a building once a week to be guided to a connection with God useful or destructive? Why can't we plug into divinity each moment without the help of an institution? Feeling and intuition can guide us through a very grounded and real spiritual path. Religion has the potential to bring people together, provide comfort, and turn people's attention to good things. Religions also have the power to crush the human will, making a person dependent on rules and behavior for approval, acceptance, and salvation. A good friend of mine was sharing with me how upset she was over her boyfriend of several years breaking their relationship off. His religious and cultural values led him to put down all the extroverted professional on-goings my friend was experiencing, and made her feel bad about gaining success and attention for her performing career. When it came down to the root of their issue, his religion and values taught him to believe that performing on stage, and any act of expressing one's talent and passion outwardly is turning away from God. This sounds more like fear than spirituality. It makes sense that full expression of our gifts in a celebration of joy and love leans more to the union of the Self with God. When we acknowledge and celebrate that divinity is in everyone, our fears have the capacity to fade. Realizing this ultimate truth, whether practiced in singing, yoga, gardening, running, or walking, is a strong foundation for spirituality. While my friend's case is extreme, religions have contributed to a decline in our mental and physical health. Think back to a joyful childhood moment where you were running around, having a blast, full of uncensored, joyful expression. You weren't worried about rules yet, although we are trained from birth how to act to get love and attention. Playful kids are full of joy, vitality and health. The body and the mind are the same. Kids don't worry about how many grams of protein are in their dinner, or how many calories they are burning running around having fun. They are living in the moment and somehow they find their way naturally to consuming and burning what their bodies need, resting when they are tired, and waking up fresh when they've had enough sleep. We can also find and trust our own intuitions, and live in the moment as adults. We probably have more responsibilities than when we were 5, and we have to make our own meals. But we can figure it out. People follow rules for 2 reasons: 1. It makes sense to follow that rule. Traffic signals are a good example. 2. Fear. We're taught our whole life what we need to do and what we're not allowed to do. Some rules are useful and some are silly. It's not useful if someone tells you which rules to follow and which to break. Our own work is in following a practice that helps us center, ground, and connect to some harmony with nature, the divine, and of course ourselves. At that point, we already know what we need to follow and what to let go. After reading through Michael Pollan's In Defense of Food http://www.amazon.com/Defense-Food-Eaters-Manifesto/dp/1594201455 several times, what crept up and shocked me wasn't as much the outcome - an ongoing horrific state of health in America. It's that on the whole, we've completely lost touch with our awareness. We put all our faith in scientific studies that continue to contradict each other, and marketing that
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Big Dawg on Health Care Reform's -Bottom Line-
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:25 AM, do.rflexdo.rf...@... wrote: I don't care how low they drive support for this with misinformation. The minute the president signs this bill, his approval will go up. Within a year, when the good things begin to happen, and the bad things they're saying will happen don't happen, approval will explode. -- Bill Clinton, quoted by The Economist, on President Obama's health care reform effort http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2009/08/bill_clinton_partisan.cfm And after that with future sessions of Congress we can get feature creep, leading up to a single payer option. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_England The Brits also have private health care options in addition to NHS. I just wanted to post and say that I agree with you on this completely. Whatever our differences have been in the past, I always read and enjoy your raps about health care, which you seem to have investigated in some depth. I see the eventually-watered-down but *passed* health care bill similarly to how I see the roll- out of new software in a large company. When you first propose a new system, there is always res- istance to it. Some think it's too expensive and (by definition) untested, some fear it because it will cause them to learn something new, others fear it because if the new software does its job well they're afraid their own jobs might be threatened, and still others fear it because it's new and brings change, and their allegiance is to the status quo. So, as a software designer, you propose a Big System to the powers that be, *knowing in advance* that all this resistance is going to come up. And *most* of the time the powers that be don't sign off on the Big System; they sign off on only a tiny portion of it, as a kind of proof of concept. So you roll out the POC system, and people start using it. And voila...the first thing that happens is that users start *liking* it. It really *does* work better than what they had before. And the second thing that happens? The users start asking for enhancements and improvements to the new system to make it even better. Being a savvy software designer, you refrain from pointing out that everything they are now asking for was in your original proposal. Instead, you take their input graciously and thankfully and go back to the powers that be with it in hand, and they look at the user feedback and *then* sign off on the original Big System you proposed to them six months ago. It's just how things work in corporate software. My feeling is that this is how it works with health care on a national level as well, and that this is exactly the approach that the Obama administration is taking to solving the health care horror. The important thing is to get *something* out there and working, as a proof of concept. Once people start using the new system, *they* are going to be the ones clammoring for feature creep, and to add enhancements to the system to make it work better. Single payer. Negotiated drug prices. Etc. This is the thing that the Gotta go in with a Big System and a big, swinging dick progressives don't seem to understand. That's not the way to affect change on a large scale. The way to affect change that you *know* will provoke resistance is to get a POC system out there and running, and then allow *the very people* who greeted your first vision of the Big System with fear and trepidation to reverse themselves, and ask for the very things you could have given them at the beginning if they hadn't been so stuck in resistance mode. This is pragmatic politics in my opinion. I see it having a much better chance of success than trying to sell a Big System that pushes everyone's buttons.
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool ffl...@... wrote: Sure does. I like to ponder astronomy things for that reason. It's interesting to consider that if each of those 100 billion galaxies mentioned in the video has only one intelligent civilization in it, there are still 100 billion intelligent civilizations in the universe. An inconceivably large number. And each of those civilizations contains millions or billions of souls each living out their own dramas. [snip] And how fortunate we here on tiny planet Earth are to be home to GOD'S ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, JESUS. God could have chosen any one of the 300 billion stars in our Milky Way galaxy or any of the billions of other galaxies BUT WE WERE CHOSEN. Earth really should become a theme park to the entire universe. But what I can't understand is why aliens from other planets aren't beating a path to our door! If you were on some planet 25 light years away and were told that Earth is home to God's son, wouldn't YOU want to come? Certainly God made it known to all those other billions of civilizations that it is here on Earth that his son was born, raised, and then sacrified like a suckling pig on a spit so that EVERYONE IN THE UNIVERSE were saved and wouldn't rot in hell for all eternity.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh, bama is kRSNa?
Half an inch? It's Not How Long You Make It, It's How You Make It Long. http://www.tobaccovideos.com/commercials/010winston.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: Some random thoughts: According to some DNA-studies, the dark-skinned people of India came from Africa. It seems possible that the name 'kRSNa' (black, dark, dark blue) refers to that fact(?). In the Giitaa Krishna says: sambhavaami yuge yuge Giitaa also states that the Vedic literature mostly created by light skinned nomadic people from the area of modern Afghanistan, I guess, and southern Russia, is rather useless in achieving enlightenment: traiguNyavishayaa vedaa *nistraiguNyo* bhavaarjuna Krishna tries to teach Arjuna ( = white) not to rely on the Vedic BS in trying achieve the highest goals possible for human beans?? Lately people from Africa, especially Kenya, have started to succeed in many areas of life. For instance, when MTV started, initially there were no black artists at all in the videos shown. Nowadays Caucasian artists seem to be rather rare on MTV. It's a well known fact, that black men are, in average, physically much stronger than white men. In my understanding, most base ball and basket ball stars in the USA are Afro-American. They also have a certain lingam that's according to some studies about half an inch longer, in average, than that of Caucasian males. Black people have started to spread all over the world. For instance, IMU, in Sweden they are nowadays a substantial minority.(Not true!) Well, perhaps natural selection shall take care of their becoming whiter in time. (Conan O'Brien is so white prolly because in Ireland sun rarely shines...LOL!) Wasn't Moses of the Old Testament a black person?? Obama certainly is 'kRSNa' but perhaps he also is an incarnation of Krishna...heh! I wonder, what the word 'obama' means as an appellative, if anything... BTW, watch the Black Power (kRSNa-bala?) rule in IAAF World Championships in Athletics, in Berlin, where Jesse Owens prolly made Hitler mad by being so f-ing superior!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternative to Transcendental Meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: I agree with you, Patrick, it really is remarkable that Maharishi was able to direct so many people into doing meditation, and on a twice daily basis, to boot. But I think that it was just the right message and medium for the time and for the people who were, for some reason, primed for both. To whatever degree Maharishi's initial mission trajectory may have wavered in the latter part of his life (if it did at all), he came from an authentic and sincere background. ** Yeah, that was the way it was. However, the market base seems to be broadening. For instance, half of the corporations that offer employee health insurance benefits apparently also fund `wellness' programs. These secular meditations run right through that hole in a way that TM because of its religious connections seems might not. Bensen and Harvard, Siegel and UCLA, Tolle and Oprah, Now these alternative Transcendental Meditation guys evidently from East coast schools. Matters of packaging and promotion that will come in time. I bet that the UCLA guy we have not heard the last of. I would put some money on that group to become very present in `wellness' programs and in quiet time meditation time within schools, as well as the workplace. Dr. Dan Siegel, MD, father of modern attachment psychiatry and meditation researcher on Google Tech Talks Personal Growth Series speaks on the new science of personal transformation. Dan Siegel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr4Od7kqDT8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Give this to a real business school as a mass market project: Health food stores typically have alternative newspapers that list alternative and complementary health care services. I used to look at these lists regularly. I was looking to see what was being offered by way of meditation instruction. Nothing ever was. Nobody ever offered to teach people how to meditate. I got the impression nobody cared to learn meditation. Which makes Maharishi's achievement that much more remarkable, I guess. Interesting market positioning. Now comes, Marketing the alternative Transcendental Meditation. Give this to a real business school as a mass market project: Craft promotions to segments. The Saks 5th Ave package. Bloomingdales, Eddie Bauer, LLBean, From health and beauty to exploring the inner silence of nature. The Chicken Soup book version. The Walmart store packaged version. Bikers stop for meditation. The John Deere lawn tractor and meditation package. Hot Rods and meditation. Weavers and nitters meditate with the alternative to relieve eye-strain. Cut the national budget with The free meditation incentive package as parts of the stimulus or healthcare, or veterans service benefit plans. Of course, the TMorg already tried the high end Horchow version. Broaden it out now. Alternative Transcendental Meditation: A useful meditation for anyone, a packaging for everyone.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Religion Ruining Our Health?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Good article aggregated on Huffington Post. I don't really know who Tara Stiles is, but I'd like to takea a yoga class from her. Is Religion Ruining Our Health? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tara-stiles/is-religion-ruining-our-h_b_2\ 59487.html [Tara Stiles] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tara-stiles Tara Stiles http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tara-stiles Tara Stiles is reinventing what it means to practice yoga, and proving that you don't need to wear spandex or call yourself a yoga person in order to make it part of your life. The moment we believe the answers are no longer inside ourselves, waiting without trickery to be uncovered by reflection, meditation, and practice, we are separated from the truth. We become ungrounded by fear and start to look outside and grasp for answers away from our reach. Self-doubt is a part of most everyone's life at some point. When we forget that we are powerful, loving beings, full of potential and endless possibilities, we are subject to fall into the traps of teachings that convince us that we are unworthy, unholy, and small. Finding the answers in something outside of our selves can feel more secure, especially when lots of other people are doing it. Most of us are taught faith when we are young. We are given a set of rules and behaviors to live by or else bad things will happen and there will be no eternal salvation. Religion takes the trust away from the individual and replaces it with an insurance plan for eternal salvation paid off over a lifetime with rules and fear. Is going to a building once a week to be guided to a connection with God useful or destructive? Why can't we plug into divinity each moment without the help of an institution? Feeling and intuition can guide us through a very grounded and real spiritual path. Religion has the potential to bring people together, provide comfort, and turn people's attention to good things. Religions also have the power to crush the human will, making a person dependent on rules and behavior for approval, acceptance, and salvation. A good friend of mine was sharing with me how upset she was over her boyfriend of several years breaking their relationship off. His religious and cultural values led him to put down all the extroverted professional on-goings my friend was experiencing, and made her feel bad about gaining success and attention for her performing career. When it came down to the root of their issue, his religion and values taught him to believe that performing on stage, and any act of expressing one's talent and passion outwardly is turning away from God. This sounds more like fear than spirituality. It makes sense that full expression of our gifts in a celebration of joy and love leans more to the union of the Self with God. When we acknowledge and celebrate that divinity is in everyone, our fears have the capacity to fade. Realizing this ultimate truth, whether practiced in singing, yoga, gardening, running, or walking, is a strong foundation for spirituality. While my friend's case is extreme, religions have contributed to a decline in our mental and physical health. Think back to a joyful childhood moment where you were running around, having a blast, full of uncensored, joyful expression. You weren't worried about rules yet, although we are trained from birth how to act to get love and attention. Playful kids are full of joy, vitality and health. The body and the mind are the same. Kids don't worry about how many grams of protein are in their dinner, or how many calories they are burning running around having fun. They are living in the moment and somehow they find their way naturally to consuming and burning what their bodies need, resting when they are tired, and waking up fresh when they've had enough sleep. We can also find and trust our own intuitions, and live in the moment as adults. We probably have more responsibilities than when we were 5, and we have to make our own meals. But we can figure it out. People follow rules for 2 reasons: 1. It makes sense to follow that rule. Traffic signals are a good example. 2. Fear. We're taught our whole life what we need to do and what we're not allowed to do. Some rules are useful and some are silly. It's not useful if someone tells you which rules to follow and which to break. Our own work is in following a practice that helps us center, ground, and connect to some harmony with nature, the divine, and of course ourselves. At that point, we already know what we need to follow and what to let go. After reading through Michael Pollan's In Defense of Food http://www.amazon.com/Defense-Food-Eaters-Manifesto/dp/1594201455 several times, what crept up and shocked me wasn't as much the outcome - an ongoing horrific state of health in America. It's that on the whole,
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Big Dawg on Health Care Reform's -Bottom Line-
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: I don't care how low they drive support for this with misinformation. The minute the president signs this bill, his approval will go up. Within a year, when the good things begin to happen, and the bad things they're saying will happen don't happen, approval will explode. -- Bill Clinton, quoted by The Economist, on President Obama's health care reform effort http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2009/08/bill_clinton_partisan.cfm When Obama trots Bill Clinton out to defend a crappy health care bill you know he's getting desperate because Obama's grassroots supporters are not responding. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/15/health/policy/15ground.html More than a dozen campaign volunteers, precinct captains and team leaders from all corners of Iowa, who dedicated a large share of their time in 2007 and 2008 to Mr. Obama, said in interviews this week that they supported the president completely but were taking a break from politics and were not active members of Organizing for America. Some said they were reluctant to talk to their neighbors about something personal and complicated like health care. And others expressed frustration at the genteel approach, asking why Democrats were not filling the town-hall-style meetings So why is the grassroots to apathetic? We've got a Democratic president who came into office with the wind at his back and the people (and the press) at his feet, and a majority in both houses of Congress, but this is what we have instead, We need to pass a bill [just any old bill]. I would make calls all through the night for Obama if I were calling for Medicare for All. If Obama gave us what the MAJORITY of the people want in a health care bill, the grassroots would have gotten behind him more powerfully than they did for his campaign. Medicare for All would have completely dominated the conversation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Big Dawg on Health Care Reform's -Bottom Line-
And after that with future sessions of Congress we can get feature creep, leading up to a single payer option. TurquoiseB wrote: I see the eventually-watered-down but *passed* health care bill similarly to how I see the roll- out of new software in a large company. There's no 'new software' being rolled out, it's just some reforms of the old system. It's like Windows 7 is different from Vista. So, where are the cost savings? It the Obama Care is like the software industry, why is it than we have to pay more for each 'new' revision but with very luttle improvement? And why is it that I have to pay for your software use? If there's no cost savings, why the reform? I've already got group health insurance, so why would I want to pay for yours? You don't pay any U.S. payroll tax, but I do. Why am I paying your tax? So many questions, so few answers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh, bama is kRSNa?
maybe you are already aware but Maharishi said that Krshna is black because he is no-thing , he is nothingness , the absolute. Obama apparently had Hanuman puja done or just allowed his representative to accept it being done, but I have never heard anything to suggest he is engaged in any sadhana so he is not some self realized person, and as you know he is not very black either. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: Some random thoughts: According to some DNA-studies, the dark-skinned people of India came from Africa. It seems possible that the name 'kRSNa' (black, dark, dark blue) refers to that fact(?). In the Giitaa Krishna says: sambhavaami yuge yuge Giitaa also states that the Vedic literature mostly created by light skinned nomadic people from the area of modern Afghanistan, I guess, and southern Russia, is rather useless in achieving enlightenment: traiguNyavishayaa vedaa *nistraiguNyo* bhavaarjuna Krishna tries to teach Arjuna ( = white) not to rely on the Vedic BS in trying achieve the highest goals possible for human beans?? Lately people from Africa, especially Kenya, have started to succeed in many areas of life. For instance, when MTV started, initially there were no black artists at all in the videos shown. Nowadays Caucasian artists seem to be rather rare on MTV. It's a well known fact, that black men are, in average, physically much stronger than white men. In my understanding, most base ball and basket ball stars in the USA are Afro-American. They also have a certain lingam that's according to some studies about half an inch longer, in average, than that of Caucasian males. Black people have started to spread all over the world. For instance, IMU, in Sweden they are nowadays a substantial minority.(Not true!) Well, perhaps natural selection shall take care of their becoming whiter in time. (Conan O'Brien is so white prolly because in Ireland sun rarely shines...LOL!) Wasn't Moses of the Old Testament a black person?? Obama certainly is 'kRSNa' but perhaps he also is an incarnation of Krishna...heh! I wonder, what the word 'obama' means as an appellative, if anything... BTW, watch the Black Power (kRSNa-bala?) rule in IAAF World Championships in Athletics, in Berlin, where Jesse Owens prolly made Hitler mad by being so f-ing superior!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Big Dawg on Health Care Reform's -Bottom Line-
bill hicks wrote: And after that with future sessions of Congress we can get feature creep, leading up to a single payer option. Are you sure what 'single payer' means, Bill? So, Bill, you're saying that everyone should pay for the public health insurance, there's no way to opt out, and tax is automatically deducted from your paycheck, along with the payroll tax, and all the other taxes. And the U.S. Government pays for all the doctors, all the surgery, all the medications, all the hospitalizations, all the rehabilitation, all the extended care, and the counseling and the hospice care, Every one is on the plan including the elected politicians and the Dear Leader, and a panel will determine eligibility or rationing. And you're saying that young people pay for the health care of the old people, and the old people pay for everyone who has no insurance, like the guest workers. So, what happens when there's more old people than young people? And there are more guest workers than old people? Wouldn't it just be simpler to reduce the high cost of health care so that everyone could afford their own health care insurance? That way, we could all have some choices, and save some money, you know what I mean?
[FairfieldLife] Re: No Money for Health Care but Plenty for Troops in Columbia?
Bhairitu wrote: Let South America fight it's own battles. The US is bankrupt and can't be spending money to expand US hegemony. The military industrial complex lines its pockets while people in the US die from lack of health care. Time for revolt. Revolt against the government so you can get drugs from South America? You must be joking, we can't even get LEGAL drugs at a discount from Canada. You need to get some smarts and get a handle on this drug issue, Senor. There wouldn't be any need for U.S. troops in South America if your people would stop buying up all the cocaine and reefer. What have you guys out there been smoking? I wouldn't want any of you guys running a drug war or a country - your state is the state that's bankrupt, not mine. You're not even making any sense anymore, Barry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh, bama is kRSNa?
cardemaister wrote: According to some DNA-studies, the dark-skinned people of India came from Africa... All humans probably came 'out of Africa'. However, according to linguists, the native inhabitants of South Asia probably came from Micronesia, until the arrival of the Aryan-speaking people, who probably came from the Caucasus area by way of what is now Iran. In the U.S., lots of people like to think that the natives came over from Siberia. But native inhabitants in the U.S. also came over from the West Indies.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh, bama is kRSNa?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: cardemaister wrote: According to some DNA-studies, the dark-skinned people of India came from Africa... All humans probably came 'out of Africa' Or did they? A discovery of a 47-million-year-old fossil primate that is said to be a human ancestor was announced and unveiled today at a press conference in New York City. Known as Ida, the nearly complete transitional fossil is 20 times older than most fossils that provide evidence for human evolution. snip This is the first link to all humans ... truly a fossil that links world heritage, Hurum said. Here is some context for the age of the new primate fossil: Anatomically modern humans (Homo sapiens) first emerged about 200,000 years ago, but early humans such as Australopithecus afarensis and Australopithecus anamensis, reach back to 3 million or 4 million years ago, or earlier. Humans are thought to have split off from a group that includes chimpanzees and gorillas about 6 million years ago. And a group that includes all the great apes (including us) and old world monkeys (called simians or anthropoids) diverged from new world monkeys in the Eocene, just after the time of Ida. So our primate roots reach back to this time. -snip- Ida was preserved in Germany's Messel Pit, a mile-wide crater containing oil-rich shale that is a significant site for fossils of the Eocene Epoch. Opposable big toes and nail-bearing tips on the fingers and toes confirm the fossil is a primate, and a foot bone called the talus bone links Ida directly to humans, Hurum said. http://www.livescience.com/history/090519-fossil-primate.html http://www.livescience.com/history/090519-fossil-primate.html OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation: The Dark Side
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: snip As Eigen says: ³Jessie needed simple human contact, not Enlightenment.² snip Although Wilber thinks people can through meditation reach elevated states of consciousness that can help them become more mature, he says there is no guarantee mediation will free men or women from their own narcissism. Interesting article Rick. Stopped by today on this rainy Sunday looking for a thread that actually deals with meditation and picked this one. As usual, there were attacks and nastiness, which fits into Wilber's narcissism comment. Judy mentioned the concept of meditate and act, the old dipping the cloth stuff we all are familiar with. For some reason this concept always bugged me but I didn't think it through. I think it bothers me because act doesn't mean much. It could be anything other than meditating. So does the meditating, doing anything, and meditating, and doing anything, end up meaning anything at all? Accomplishing anything worthwhile? If you are a meditating narcissist, your acts may very well continue to express your narcissism. If you are a meditator who is generous and altruistic, your act will reflect that aspect of your personality. So, does the meditation make you a better person and overcome your faults? I haven't seen it in the meditators that I know. They seem, as Curtis has said, mostly like everyone else. The other question that has been addressed here many times is whether that narcissist can still be enlightened, even with his narcissism. I say no, but that doesn't mean much because I don't believe in enlightenment in the sense that MMY talked about it.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:13 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , gullible fool ffl...@... wrote: Sure does. I like to ponder astronomy things for that reason. It's interesting to consider that if each of those 100 billion galaxies mentioned in the video has only one intelligent civilization in it, there are still 100 billion intelligent civilizations in the universe. An inconceivably large number. And each of those civilizations contains millions or billions of souls each living out their own dramas. [snip] And how fortunate we here on tiny planet Earth are to be home to GOD'S ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, JESUS. God could have chosen any one of the 300 billion stars in our Milky Way galaxy or any of the billions of other galaxies BUT WE WERE CHOSEN. Earth really should become a theme park to the entire universe. But what I can't understand is why aliens from other planets aren't beating a path to our door! If you were on some planet 25 light years away and were told that Earth is home to God's son, wouldn't YOU want to come? Certainly God made it known to all those other billions of civilizations that it is here on Earth that his son was born, raised, and then sacrified like a suckling pig on a spit so that EVERYONE IN THE UNIVERSE were saved and wouldn't rot in hell for all eternity. Yeah, I particularly pity those poor schmucks 13 billion light years away. God's only son got here just 2,000 years ago. They'd have to do some serious time travelling to be saved.
[FairfieldLife] Climate Change Seen as Threat to U.S. Security
Climate Change Seen as Threat to U.S. Security WASHINGTON The changing global climate will pose profound strategic challenges to the United States in coming decades, raising the prospect of military intervention to deal with the effects of violent storms, drought, mass migration and pandemics, military and intelligence analysts say. [190] Lynsey Addario The conflict in southern Sudan, which has killed and displaced tens of thousands of people, is partly a result of drought in Darfur. Such climate-induced crises could topple governments, feed terrorist movements or destabilize entire regions, say the analysts, experts at the Pentagon and intelligence agencies who for the first time are taking a serious look at the national security implications of climate change http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/globalwarming/index.h\ tml?inline=nyt-classifier . Recent war games and intelligence studies conclude that over the next 20 to 30 years, vulnerable regions, particularly sub-Saharan Africa, the Middle East and South and Southeast Asia, will face the prospect of food shortages, water crises and catastrophic flooding driven by climate change that could demand an American humanitarian relief or military response. An exercise last December at the National Defense University http://www.ndu.edu/ , an educational institute that is overseen by the military, explored the potential impact of a destructive flood in Bangladesh that sent hundreds of thousands of refugees streaming into neighboring India, touching off religious conflict, the spread of contagious diseases and vast damage to infrastructure. It gets real complicated real quickly, said Amanda J. Dory, the deputy assistant secretary of defense for strategy, who is working with a Pentagon group assigned to incorporate climate change into national security strategy planning. Much of the public and political debate on global warming has focused on finding substitutes for fossil fuels, reducing emissions that contribute to greenhouse gases and furthering negotiations toward an international climate treaty not potential security challenges. But a growing number of policy makers say that the world's rising temperatures, surging seas and melting glaciers are a direct threat to the national interest. If the United States does not lead the world in reducing fossil-fuel consumption and thus emissions of global warming gases, proponents of this view say, a series of global environmental, social, political and possibly military crises loom that the nation will urgently have to address. This argument could prove a fulcrum for debate in the Senate next month when it takes up climate and energy legislation passed in June by the House. Lawmakers leading the debate before Congress are only now beginning to make the national security argument for approving the legislation. Senator John Kerry http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/john_kerry\ /index.html?inline=nyt-per , the Massachusetts Democrat who is the chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee http://foreign.senate.gov/ and a leading advocate for the climate legislation, said he hoped to sway Senate skeptics by pressing that issue to pass a meaningful bill. Mr. Kerry said he did not know whether he would succeed but had spoken with 30 undecided senators on the matter. He did not identify those senators, but the list of undecided includes many from coal and manufacturing states and from the South and Southeast, which will face the sharpest energy price increases from any carbon emissions control program. I've been making this argument for a number of years, Mr. Kerry said, but it has not been a focus because a lot of people had not connected the dots. He said he had urged President Obama http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_oba\ ma/index.html?inline=nyt-per to make the case, too. Mr. Kerry said the continuing conflict in southern Sudan, which has killed and displaced tens of thousands of people, is a result of drought and expansion of deserts in the north. That is going to be repeated many times over and on a much larger scale, he said. The Department of Defense's assessment of the security issue came about after prodding by Congress to include climate issues in its strategic plans specifically, in 2008 budget authorizations by Hillary Rodham Clinton http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/hillary_ro\ dham_clinton/index.html?inline=nyt-per and John W. Warner http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/w/john_w_war\ ner/index.html?inline=nyt-per , then senators. The department's climate modeling is based on sophisticated Navy http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/us_\ navy/index.html?inline=nyt-org and Air Force weather programs and other government climate research programs at NASA http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/nat\
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death Panels Dropped?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Ruth, hats off to you for doing yeowoman's work on health care. I understand you have a nursing background, how did you get involved lobbying and what is GBO? snip Sorry, I had a typo, it is the CBO, the congressional budget office. I am a retired MD and have been working on and off as a lobbyist for health care reform for several years. http://www.pnhp.org/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Climate Change Seen as Threat to U.S. Security
John wrote: Climate Change Seen as Threat to U.S. Security You sound really scared of climate change. But, how is the U.S. military going to get into the a state without a call from the governor? Maybe the U.S. Army could just invade New Orleans and take over filling up the sandbags. I wonder what Ray Nagin or Bobby Jindal would think of that?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Money for Health Care but Plenty for Troops in Columbia?
WillyTex wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Let South America fight it's own battles. The US is bankrupt and can't be spending money to expand US hegemony. The military industrial complex lines its pockets while people in the US die from lack of health care. Time for revolt. Revolt against the government so you can get drugs from South America? You must be joking, we can't even get LEGAL drugs at a discount from Canada. You need to get some smarts and get a handle on this drug issue, Senor. There wouldn't be any need for U.S. troops in South America if your people would stop buying up all the cocaine and reefer. What have you guys out there been smoking? I wouldn't want any of you guys running a drug war or a country - your state is the state that's bankrupt, not mine. You're not even making any sense anymore, Barry. You seem to be missing the REAL solution. Just legalize those drugs. Then there isn't any cartel to worry about in Columbia. And here I though your ilk was concerned about the money wasted on the drug war. Some conservative you are, Willy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death Panels Dropped?
Ruth wrote: Sorry, I had a typo... So, they dropped the 'death panels' - I thought they would. In a unversal health care system, nobody wants a panel deciding when to ration medical care. So, I guess you could say that Sarah Palin won the debate. But you're supposed to be the smart one - what happened? If you believe the media, Sarah Palin is a mediocre intellect, if even that, while President Obama is brilliant. So how did she manage to best him in this debate? Part of the explanation is that disdain for Palin reflects intellectual snobbery more than actual intellect. Still, Obama's critics, in contrast with Palin's, do not deny the president's intellectual aptitude. Intelligence, however, does not make one immune from hubris... Read more: 'Palin Wins' By James Taranto Wall Street Journal, August 14, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/ntcwle
[FairfieldLife] Re: No Money for Health Care but Plenty for Troops in Columbia?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: WillyTex wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Let South America fight it's own battles. The US is bankrupt and can't be spending money to expand US hegemony. The military industrial complex lines its pockets while people in the US die from lack of health care. Time for revolt. Revolt against the government so you can get drugs from South America? You must be joking, we can't even get LEGAL drugs at a discount from Canada. You need to get some smarts and get a handle on this drug issue, Senor. There wouldn't be any need for U.S. troops in South America if your people would stop buying up all the cocaine and reefer. What have you guys out there been smoking? I wouldn't want any of you guys running a drug war or a country - your state is the state that's bankrupt, not mine. You're not even making any sense anymore, Barry. You seem to be missing the REAL solution. Just legalize those drugs. Then there isn't any cartel to worry about in Columbia. And here I though your ilk was concerned about the money wasted on the drug war. Some conservative you are, Willy. Legalize crack? You must be out of your mind. The idea is to reduce the high costs of medical care, not increase it. You don't seem to understand: it is illegal to import discount drugs from anywhere, from Mexico or Canada or anywhere else. I thought you were in favor of health care reform. Now you want to put a tax on poor, sick people's medications? Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death Panels Dropped?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Ruth, hats off to you for doing yeowoman's work on health care. I understand you have a nursing background, how did you get involved lobbying and what is GBO? snip Sorry, I had a typo, it is the CBO, the congressional budget office. I am a retired MD and have been working on and off as a lobbyist for health care reform for several years. http://www.pnhp.org/ Ruth, It looks like Obama is dropping the public option and he's open to co-ops. What do you think about co-ops? So far every bill coming out of Congress smells like the gravy train for the insurance companies. Just before recess when Obama wanted Congress to sign a bill, the CBO released a report saying the House bill would cost far more than estimated. This news gave the Republicans and Blue Dogs another reason to drag their heels. Democrats knew they couldn't get the votes anyway, so the CBO report just provided them a little cover for a weak bill. Now that the insurance and drug companies have the summer to get a sweeter deal, I'm concerned any bill is just going to go from bad to worse. Is a crappy bill better than no bill at all? Can you give us any behind the scenes insight into the politics of the health care debacle we're witnessing?
[FairfieldLife] Question about Google Groups
Is anyone else having a problem with searches on Google Groups? I keep getting: Your search - _ - did not match any documents. Suggestions: - Repeat your search without the language restriction. You can permanently change your language preferences by visiting the preferences page. - Make sure all words are spelled correctly. - Try different keywords. - Try more general keywords. - Try fewer keywords. - Try your search on all Google Groups. - Try your search on Google Web Search.
[FairfieldLife] Balance the budget now...or...impeach!
I really don't have much of an investment in healthcare reform one way or the other; I can take it or leave it. But what I do care about is the deficit. At the end of July, we have a $1.2 trillion deficit for the year! This is unbelievable and unsustainable. This happy-go-lucky spendthrift president and his Democratic congress are spending America into oblivion. We may end up having a $2 trillion deficit for the year which is about what the entire budget was the year Clinton left office (and that was a balanced budget). Many people are shaking their heads in bewilderment. Those that aren't probably don't understand numbers. I say: balance the budget NOW. Don't do it incrementally; do it now...in fact, I say not only balance the budget but create a surplus. And if such a move throws us into a depression, I say: bring it on. Better to deal with it now than have a much longer and worse one later. If this president can't immediately balance the budget then he should be told that impeachment is in his future. Enough already!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question about Google Groups
John wrote: Is anyone else having a problem with searches on Google Groups? Trying to find out if Judy is posting to Usenet? LOL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death Panels Dropped?
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:25 PM, raunchydograunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: Can you give us any behind the scenes insight into the politics of the health care debacle we're witnessing? Indeed, I'm sure we'd all be interested in the perspective of a retired Mother Divine on health care.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Balance the budget now...or...impeach!
shempmcgurk wrote: I really don't have much of an investment in healthcare reform one way or the other; I can take it or leave it. But what I do care about is the deficit. At the end of July, we have a $1.2 trillion deficit for the year! This is unbelievable and unsustainable. This happy-go-lucky spendthrift president and his Democratic congress are spending America into oblivion. We may end up having a $2 trillion deficit for the year which is about what the entire budget was the year Clinton left office (and that was a balanced budget). Many people are shaking their heads in bewilderment. Those that aren't probably don't understand numbers. I say: balance the budget NOW. Don't do it incrementally; do it now...in fact, I say not only balance the budget but create a surplus. And if such a move throws us into a depression, I say: bring it on. Better to deal with it now than have a much longer and worse one later. If this president can't immediately balance the budget then he should be told that impeachment is in his future. Enough already! Why? Didn't your hero Dick Cheney say that we don't need balanced budgets? And your hero Ronald Reagan began the whole thing. Clinton left us with a surplus. Then your hero Dubya plundered the country again and you expect Obama to balance the budget in a few months. You are truly a wingnut. How are those golden showers you're getting from the rich? You know those who practice trickle down economics?
[FairfieldLife] Wealth Concentration Greatest on Record
The wealthiest 10 percent of Americans now have a larger share of total income than they ever have in records going back nearly a century — an even larger amount than during the Roaring Twenties, the last time the US saw such similar disparities in wealth. Story here: http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/15/concentration-of-wealth-in-hands-of-rich/ Time for a French style revolution I'd say. After all we outnumber the wealthy 9 to 1. Let's all meet at their gated communities tomorrow morning and shake them up a bit. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dixon Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:07 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D First time I had such an experience was about two months after initiation, in August of '70, and a couple days after my first residence course. Found myself unbounded, universe permeating through a faint outline of my body, while watching a ball of light pass through the back of my head and out the forhead and on across the universe. Another time I saw a little blue baby boy with black curly hair, reclined, and floating in the universe. What I found confusing was that after it was over, I doubted *seeing* what I clearly saw. Later I realized it wasn't a matter of *seeing*, but a matter of *Being*. I remembered M saying unity experiences can be very confusing without a master to answer your questions. I'm sorry, but you could not have had this experience, because TM is McMeditation - a ineffective beginner's technique. You must have been hallucinating. ;-) HaHa, since I'm not reading all posts here I have missed that Rick actually has humour. ;-) As to what shemp was asking; yes I have had similar experiences to yours alot, but with slightly different flavors. I always found it extremely pleasant and liberating to roam freely about in the unlimited universe.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Balance the budget now...or...impeach!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: I really don't have much of an investment in healthcare reform one way or the other; I can take it or leave it. But what I do care about is the deficit. At the end of July, we have a $1.2 trillion deficit for the year! This is unbelievable and unsustainable. This happy-go-lucky spendthrift president and his Democratic congress are spending America into oblivion. We may end up having a $2 trillion deficit for the year which is about what the entire budget was the year Clinton left office (and that was a balanced budget). Many people are shaking their heads in bewilderment. Those that aren't probably don't understand numbers. I say: balance the budget NOW. Don't do it incrementally; do it now...in fact, I say not only balance the budget but create a surplus. And if such a move throws us into a depression, I say: bring it on. Better to deal with it now than have a much longer and worse one later. If this president can't immediately balance the budget then he should be told that impeachment is in his future. Enough already! Why? Didn't your hero Dick Cheney say that we don't need balanced budgets? And your hero Ronald Reagan began the whole thing. Clinton left us with a surplus. Then your hero Dubya plundered the country again and you expect Obama to balance the budget in a few months. You are truly a wingnut. How are those golden showers you're getting from the rich? You know those who practice trickle down economics? Those are YOUR heros, you nutcase. If you had ever bothered to read my posts over the past 5 years here you'd know that I consistently railed against Bush's deficits. Now that Obama has not only continued Bush's deficits but expanded them, you cheer him on from the sidelines. It is YOU who are the proud inheritor of the Republicans' deficit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh, bama is kRSNa?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: cardemaister wrote: According to some DNA-studies, the dark-skinned people of India came from Africa... All humans probably came 'out of Africa'. However, according to linguists, the native inhabitants of South Asia probably came from Micronesia, until the arrival of the Aryan-speaking people, who probably came from the Caucasus area by way of what is now Iran. According to the Srimad Bhagavatam, humans are millions of years old, thus predating the fossils that were found. Perhaps, archeologists should study the evidence gathered so far to see if there are inconsistencies. Darwin may be wrong. In the U.S., lots of people like to think that the natives came over from Siberia. But native inhabitants in the U.S. also came over from the West Indies. It is also conceivable that the native inhabitants never went anywhere and just stayed where they were from the beginning. It could be that the geological landscape separated from one common land called Pangeia. This separation could explain for the demise of Atlantis, the lost continent. It has been speculated by esoteric authors that there is a common linguistic root between the peoples of Mesoamerica and the western coast of Africa, including the people of ancient Egypt. These authors believe that these peoples came from the original civilization of Atlantis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Watch it in HD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAVjF_7ensgeurl Helps to put things in perspective. Here's my question about galaxies and the universe: If the space/time continuum bends, when we look out into the universe won't we eventually look onto ourselves, our own planet?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wealth Concentration Greatest on Record
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: The wealthiest 10 percent of Americans now have a larger share of total income than they ever have in records going back nearly a century an even larger amount than during the Roaring Twenties, the last time the US saw such similar disparities in wealth. Story here: http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/15/concentration-of-wealth-in-hands-of-rich/ Time for a French style revolution I'd say. After all we outnumber the wealthy 9 to 1. Let's all meet at their gated communities tomorrow morning and shake them up a bit The wealthy that you mentioned could be considered the Illuminati, whether they like it or not. The type of revolution that you propose may not work. The revolution from within could be the true solution.
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Watch it in HD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAVjF_7ensgeurl Helps to put things in perspective. Here's my question about galaxies and the universe: If the space/time continuum bends, when we look out into the universe won't we eventually look onto ourselves, our own planet? You'll probably have to go around the bend to find out, Shremp.
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Watch it in HD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAVjF_7ensgeurl Helps to put things in perspective. Here's my question about galaxies and the universe: If the space/time continuum bends, when we look out into the universe won't we eventually look onto ourselves, our own planet? The present understanding is that the space/time continuum is shaped like a horse saddle. Thus, it continues forever until until all of the galaxies eventually die out. According to recent discoveries in astrophysics, these galaxies are speeding away from us at an accelerating pace. It is conceivable that they could reach the speed of light. This would mean that the current laws of physics may have to be revised for galaxies at the edge of the universe. In the end, the entire universe would appear to blink out, thus leaving everything to the void. Roger Penrose, an astrophysicist, propsed that at this time the universe could explode again to start Big Bang. This theory is called the cyclical universe. This cosmology would be similar to the dance of Shiva, in vedic mythology, where he is depicted to be surrounded by fire as he performed his eternal choreography.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wealth Concentration Greatest on Record
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: The wealthiest 10 percent of Americans now have a larger share of total income than they ever have in records going back nearly a century an even larger amount than during the Roaring Twenties, the last time the US saw such similar disparities in wealth. Story here: http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/15/concentration-of-wealth-in-hands-of-rich/ Time for a French style revolution I'd say. After all we outnumber the wealthy 9 to 1. Let's all meet at their gated communities tomorrow morning and shake them up a bit. The obvious response to the above is precisely what Obama is suggesting: put on extra tax on those with income above $250,000. The ironic thing is that ever since Bush lowered taxes for the richest (actually he did it for everyone but let's just talk about the rich), the percentage of total taxes by the rich INCREASED! And now that he's president, Obama knows that. So he's between a rock and a hard place. He's got a campaign promise to fulfill to tax the rich and appease nutcases like Bhairitu who have no clue how the real world works...yet if he does he will actually REDUCE the amount of tax he gets from the rich. If you really want to increase tax revenue, LOWER the highest marginal tax rate for the rich.
[FairfieldLife] Jon Stewart: Glenn Beck's experience with US Health Care
Here's his blatant hypocrisy - in his own words... Glenn Beck has an operation - Watch video: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-13-2009/glenn-beck-s-operation
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wealth Concentration Greatest on Record
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: The wealthiest 10 percent of Americans now have a larger share of total income than they ever have in records going back nearly a century — an even larger amount than during the Roaring Twenties, the last time the US saw such similar disparities in wealth. Story here: http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/15/concentration-of-wealth-in-hands-of-rich/ Time for a French style revolution I'd say. After all we outnumber the wealthy 9 to 1. Let's all meet at their gated communities tomorrow morning and shake them up a bit. The obvious response to the above is precisely what Obama is suggesting: put on extra tax on those with income above $250,000. The ironic thing is that ever since Bush lowered taxes for the richest (actually he did it for everyone but let's just talk about the rich), the percentage of total taxes by the rich INCREASED! And now that he's president, Obama knows that. So he's between a rock and a hard place. He's got a campaign promise to fulfill to tax the rich and appease nutcases like Bhairitu who have no clue how the real world works...yet if he does he will actually REDUCE the amount of tax he gets from the rich. If you really want to increase tax revenue, LOWER the highest marginal tax rate for the rich. Another idea is to tax stock sales at 1%. That would raise a lot of revenue. It hits exactly where the easy money is made. But progressive taxes have worked well before. I suspect it is Obama's Wall Street crew that want hands off taxing the wealthy even though it is a pittance of an increase for them, one less extravagant weekend with Muffy. I know how the real world works, Shemp. It's just that you don't like me saying how the real world works. This class war has been going on for centuries. Their latest tactic has been to make class warfare talk un-PC and we're screaming fey on that. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Silence, Flowing
Tonight I meditated in the garden of the house I'm staying in here in the French Pyrenees, and the Silence was so profound that even though I had intended to meditate only half an hour, I missed dinner. Three hours after sitting to meditate I finally had the thought to open my eyes, and found that it had grown dark around me. Cool. And, after an experience like that, I didn't really feel like dinner, so I retired to my part of the house and listened to the only music I could think of that matched the silence of that meditation. That music is Keith Jarrett's The Koln Concert, part IIb. I have always thought of it as Silence, flowing. If you have never seen Jarrett play solo, you have missed one of the great opportunities available to you on this planet. This very thin, very spiritual man walks out to the piano, sits down, without a clue as to what he is going to play that night, and just trusts Silence to guide him, and turn what he is feeling inside into music. Jarrett is in the moment personified, luring Silence into the world, in the form of music. And the amazing thing is that the Silence is still there, somehow *in* the music, as it flows from Jarrett's fingers, as if he were painting with light.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Balance the budget now...or...impeach!
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Balance the budget now...or...impeach! I really don't have much of an investment in healthcare reform one way or the other; I can take it or leave it. But what I do care about is the deficit. At the end of July, we have a $1.2 trillion deficit for the year! This is unbelievable and unsustainable. This happy-go-lucky spendthrift president and his Democratic congress are spending America into oblivion. We may end up having a $2 trillion deficit for the year which is about what the entire budget was the year Clinton left office (and that was a balanced budget). Many people are shaking their heads in bewilderment. Those that aren't probably don't understand numbers. I say: balance the budget NOW. Don't do it incrementally; do it now...in fact, I say not only balance the budget but create a surplus. And if such a move throws us into a depression, I say: bring it on. Better to deal with it now than have a much longer and worse one later. If this president can't immediately balance the budget then he should be told that impeachment is in his future. Enough already! OK Mr. Armchair Quarterback. Despite your Canadian birth, I am appointing you President of the United States. You are now in the Oval Office. Please explain to us in some detail how you will go about balancing the budget now. Make sure you're plans are actually achievable. Not just some pie-in-the-sky notions that will slam into the brick wall of bureaucratic reality. Don't forget to tell us how you will avoid crashing the national and global economies in the process.
[FairfieldLife] U.S.-Swiss Tax Deal Throws Scare into Rich
U.S.-Swiss Tax Deal Throws Scare into Rich Wealthy Americans with Offshore Accounts on Notice as Way Cleared for U.S. to Find Tax Evaders * [244] (AP) A deal with Switzerland settling U.S. demands for the names of suspected tax dodgers from a Swiss bank has a lot of wealthy Americans with offshore accounts nervously running to their tax advisers - and the Internal Revenue Service. They are very frightened, said Richard Boggs, chief executive of Nationwide Tax Relief, a Los-Angeles-based tax firm that specializes in clients with tax debts exceeding $100,000. You have the super rich who are not used to being pushed around and they are finding themselves in unfamiliar territory. The U.S. and Swiss governments announced a court settlement last week http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/12/business/main5236509.shtml in efforts by the IRS http://www.irs.gov/ to force Zurich-based UBS AG to turn over the names of some 52,000 Americans believed to be hiding nearly $15 billion in assets in secret accounts. Justice Department and UBS lawyers told a federal judge in Miami in a brief conference call Wednesday they had initialed a final deal. But they did not disclose any details, such as how many of the 52,000 names sought by the IRS will be revealed. Even before the settlement, the high-profile case - coupled with other U.S. efforts to go after Americans hiding undeclared assets - has scared hundreds of tax dodgers to turn themselves in. Boggs said his firm has been taking on 100 new cases a month, a big increase over previous years. Peter Zeidenberg, a litigation partner at the law firm DLA Piper in Washington, said he, too, is he seeing more people with undeclared assets seeking information about their legal options. His advice: I don't think you have much of a choice but to come forward. ... I think the landscape is permanently changed. The IRS - the federal tax collection agency - long has had a policy that certain tax evaders who come forward before they are contacted by the agency usually can avoid jail time as long as they agree to pay back taxes, interest and hefty penalties. Drug dealers and money launderers need not apply. But if the money was earned legally, tax evaders can usually avoid criminal prosecution. In March, the IRS began a six-month amnesty program that sweetened the offer with reduced penalties for people with undeclared assets. IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman said the response has been unprecedented. Shulman would not say how many people have applied so far. But the IRS said 400 people applied to voluntarily disclose undeclared assets in a single week in July, compared with fewer than 100 applications all last year. The amnesty program, which ends Sept. 23, is part of a larger effort by federal authorities to crack down on international tax evaders. Each time someone walks through the door with a disclosure, we get more information. We get more information about other people. We get more information about other financial institutions, Shulman said. If people have been hiding assets in the past, they should be nervous, and they should be a lot more suspect about doing it in the future. The U.S. recently reached agreements with several countries, including Luxembourg and Switzerland, to share more tax information in the future, just as the IRS is strengthening its enforcement ranks. President Barack Obama, in his proposed 2010 budget, asked Congress to pay for 800 additional agents, examiners and lawyers to go after people who hide money overseas. Mr. Obama also wants Congress to require overseas financial institutions doing business in the U.S. to share more information with the IRS. Earlier this year, UBS admitted assisting U.S. citizens in evading taxes as part of a deferred prosecution agreement with the Justice Department. UBS agreed to disclose the names of about 300 American clients and pay a $780 million penalty. The IRS subsequently filed its case seeking the names of 52,000 additional U.S. taxpayers believed to be hiding assets in UBS accounts. So far, four UBS customers whose names were given to U.S. authorities under the prior agreement have made deals to plead guilty to tax charges in federal court. The UBS case, the agreements we are signing, the legislative proposals and the enforcement efforts are all meant to send one message, which is that if you owe tax to the U.S., we are going to use every tool we have available to get that, said Michael Mundaca, acting assistant treasury secretary. Sen. Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat, applauded the administration's efforts, but said more can be done to catch tax evaders. Levin has introduced a bill http://tinyurl.com/oatqdt that would direct the treasury secretary to maintain a list of nations that impede U.S. tax enforcement and give him authority to impose financial penalties against uncooperative countries. Levin's initial list of 34 countries and other jurisdictions would include Switzerland, the Cayman
[FairfieldLife] Re: Balance the budget now...or...impeach!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Balance the budget now...or...impeach! I really don't have much of an investment in healthcare reform one way or the other; I can take it or leave it. But what I do care about is the deficit. At the end of July, we have a $1.2 trillion deficit for the year! This is unbelievable and unsustainable. This happy-go-lucky spendthrift president and his Democratic congress are spending America into oblivion. We may end up having a $2 trillion deficit for the year which is about what the entire budget was the year Clinton left office (and that was a balanced budget). Many people are shaking their heads in bewilderment. Those that aren't probably don't understand numbers. I say: balance the budget NOW. Don't do it incrementally; do it now...in fact, I say not only balance the budget but create a surplus. And if such a move throws us into a depression, I say: bring it on. Better to deal with it now than have a much longer and worse one later. If this president can't immediately balance the budget then he should be told that impeachment is in his future. Enough already! OK Mr. Armchair Quarterback. Despite your Canadian birth, I am appointing you President of the United States. You are now in the Oval Office. Please explain to us in some detail how you will go about balancing the budget now. Make sure you're plans are actually achievable. Not just some pie-in-the-sky notions that will slam into the brick wall of bureaucratic reality. Don't forget to tell us how you will avoid crashing the national and global economies in the process. First of all, there very well may be a crash of the national and global economies if the budget was balanced AS I POINTED OUT IF YOU ACTUALLY READ MY POST, RICK. A little pain now will avoid a whole lot of pain later. What would I do? I would institute a flat tax rate for everyone. I would cut spending on everything across the board in the percentage that the deficit was to total budget. I would immediately eliminate Social Security, to boot.
[FairfieldLife] +Re: Cell phones in FF?
Hey, Mike, are you from or do you have any relatives in Mississippi? I ask because I think I knew a Gurevich from there. Hi Shemp, I was born in the city of Tashkent, grew up in NYC and lived a decade in California. Now in FF. Although I haven't been to Mississippi, or know of relatives there, it wouldn't be surprising, because it seems there are a bunch of us running around the globe :-) Cheers, Mike
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Balance the budget now...or...impeach!
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 4:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Balance the budget now...or...impeach! First of all, there very well may be a crash of the national and global economies if the budget was balanced AS I POINTED OUT IF YOU ACTUALLY READ MY POST, RICK. A little pain now will avoid a whole lot of pain later. What would I do? I would institute a flat tax rate for everyone. I would cut spending on everything across the board in the percentage that the deficit was to total budget. I would immediately eliminate Social Security, to boot. In other words, you would run headlong into a brick wall, because all of those things would necessitate a huge political battle which you couldn't win. YOU would be impeached or voted out of office after a disastrous single term.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Balance the budget now...or...impeach!
shempmcgurk wrote: What would I do? I would institute a flat tax rate for everyone. I would cut spending on everything across the board in the percentage that the deficit was to total budget. That would be a windfall for the rich. They wind up paying less of their income in taxes than the lower and middle classes. So what exemptions do you propose for those classes? I would immediately eliminate Social Security, to boot. So what are the retirees depending on Social Security supposed to do? Go get jobs? What jobs? And you say I don't know how the real world works. :-D
[FairfieldLife] 40 Years - Woodstock couple 'happy together' after all this time
Couple in iconic Woodstock photo still happy together Bobby and Nick Ercoline pose for a photo outside their home in Pine Bush, N.Y. The Ercolines, wrapped in a muddy blanket, were captured in an iconic photo (right) from the 1969 Woodstock festival in Bethel, NY. (AP) August 15, 2009- For many Americans of a certain age, the Woodstock Music and Art Fair is a hazy memory. Not for Bobbi and Nick Ercoline -- the hugging couple whose photo ended up on the cover of the Woodstock soundtrack album. Forty years ago, they were girlfriend and boyfriend. She lived in Pine Bush, N.Y., and worked at a bank. He lived in Middletown, N.Y., and worked two jobs while going to college. When they heard about the huge musical festival, We just had to go, Bobbi Ercoline told the Albany Times Union. They stayed only one night, and never saw the stage. Woodstock was a sign of the times, Bobbi told the paper. So many things were churning around in our world at that time: civil rights, the Vietnam War, women's rights. It was our generation, she said. They married two years after Woodstock and have children ages 28 and 30. They live in Pine Bush. Bobbi Ercoline is a school nurse who started a food pantry. Her husband is a house inspector. I think the further we get from the original event the more meaningful it becomes, the more we realize how phenomenal it was: all those people coming together with no violence, just peace, love and sharing, Bobbi Ercoline said. Forty years later, it's just remarkable that it could have occurred. http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/music/1717865,CST-NWS-woodcouple15\ .article
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D
On Aug 15, 2009, at 11:46 PM, gullible fool wrote: Sure does. I like to ponder astronomy things for that reason. It's interesting to consider that if each of those 100 billion galaxies mentioned in the video has only one intelligent civilization in it, there are still 100 billion intelligent civilizations in the universe. An inconceivably large number. And each of those civilizations contains millions or billions of souls each living out their own dramas. Years ago, when Elaine Reding was running the Cambridge capitol, she invited an astrophysicist TMer to give a talk. He had this great quote which he said was from an ancient text, the Upanishads, maybe it was. This is paraphrased. Even if you could count all of the grains of sand on all of the shores of this great world, you still could not count the number of universes. And then he went out and had a beer. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation: The Dark Side
On Aug 16, 2009, at 11:57 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote: Judy mentioned the concept of meditate and act, the old dipping the cloth stuff we all are familiar with. For some reason this concept always bugged me but I didn't think it through. I think it bothers me because act doesn't mean much. What both bothered and amused me about the dipping/dying of the cloth metaphor, was that TMers (like myself) took it at face value: 'wow, it's really true, each time I transcend, I get more dyed by pure consciousness. He said it, so it must be true.' We could even convince ourselves we were experiencing them, based on our own very 'coached' experiences. But, in keeping with TM's watered down presentation of inner yoga, while it is believed in Hindu and Buddhist yoga traditions that repeated samadhi does slowly imbue wakefulness beyond waking, dreaming and sleeping, what they didn't tell us is that the type of samadhi that creates such dyed changes doesn't really happen in TM, if it does, it's probably quite rare. It will produce light trance and thought-free states, along with wonderful relaxation, and some prana- kundalini side effects. But the type of samadhi that dyes' a person's consciousness is deep, willed, long-duration, effortless samadhi. And even then there's no guarantee these deep absorptions will change you, unless some part of your practice is geared specifically towards that. In fact, if some part of your practice is NOT geared towards altruism, you'll just end up getting more and more vain and grandiose. I'm impressed with the recent work by Antoine Lutz and Richie Davidson where they actually demonstrated that those who experience traditional Hindu or Buddhist samadhis not only went into a rather remarkable high power EEG gamma coherence--but the longer they meditated, the more this signature took over the person's everyday, out of meditation EEG. But these type of meditators could go into samadhi, at will, for the desired length of time, they weren't just 2 x 20 occasional transcenders, but masters of it, by their own own will and truly effortless. Indoctrination in TM, esp. for intelligent folks who are attracted to science, can be very pervasive and convincing. Many have been trained to believe that these light relaxation states are more than they are. It turns out, the Lutz and Richardson work (which has been replicated at least 5 times) tells us that the neural dying level of practice is actually miles beyond your typical commercially available, mass- meditation techniques. It could be anything other than meditating. So does the meditating, doing anything, and meditating, and doing anything, end up meaning anything at all? Accomplishing anything worthwhile? If you are a meditating narcissist, your acts may very well continue to express your narcissism. If you are a meditator who is generous and altruistic, your act will reflect that aspect of your personality. So, does the meditation make you a better person and overcome your faults? I haven't seen it in the meditators that I know. They seem, as Curtis has said, mostly like everyone else. The other question that has been addressed here many times is whether that narcissist can still be enlightened, even with his narcissism. I say no, but that doesn't mean much because I don't believe in enlightenment in the sense that MMY talked about it. Certain meditation practices, like Buddhist meditation and traditional, will often contain elements that begins by awakening an attitude of universal empathy, the desire for all sentient being to be free from suffering. Over time, that intention, just becomes a part of you. Recent research shows this style of meditation also awakens the part of the brain for 'taking action.' So we know not only do such people entrain towards an imbred altruism, but they also develop the brain pathways helpful for taking that action into the world. That says a lot for me.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Balance the budget now...or...impeach!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: I really don't have much of an investment in healthcare reform one way or the other; I can take it or leave it. But what I do care about is the deficit. At the end of July, we have a $1.2 trillion deficit for the year! This is unbelievable and unsustainable. This happy-go-lucky spendthrift president and his Democratic congress are spending America into oblivion. We may end up having a $2 trillion deficit for the year which is about what the entire budget was the year Clinton left office (and that was a balanced budget). Many people are shaking their heads in bewilderment. Those that aren't probably don't understand numbers. I say: balance the budget NOW. Don't do it incrementally; do it now...in fact, I say not only balance the budget but create a surplus. And if such a move throws us into a depression, I say: bring it on. Better to deal with it now than have a much longer and worse one later. If this president can't immediately balance the budget then he should be told that impeachment is in his future. Enough already! Why? Didn't your hero Dick Cheney say that we don't need balanced budgets? And your hero Ronald Reagan began the whole thing. Clinton left us with a surplus. Then your hero Dubya plundered the country again and you expect Obama to balance the budget in a few months. You are truly a wingnut. How are those golden showers you're getting from the rich? You know those who practice trickle down economics? Let's not forget it was a Republican majority in congress that submitted that *balanced* budget to Clinton to sign..which is what we need again now; but, unfortunately like you said, ole Dubya screwed us conservatives royally with his last budgets.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D
That would be a closed circle... not that , but more like a corkscrew. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@netscape.net wrote: From: shempmcgurk shempmcg...@netscape.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 7:36 PM --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Watch it in HD: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=oAVjF_7ensg eurl Helps to put things in perspective. Here's my question about galaxies and the universe: If the space/time continuum bends, when we look out into the universe won't we eventually look onto ourselves, our own planet?
[FairfieldLife] RIP Public Option
A month ago, Obama said in his weekly radio and Internet address that 'any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange: a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest and choose what's best for your family.' [Now that we don't have a public option how will Obama keep the insurance companies honest? RD] We've had a process that started out in backrooms with K Street Lobbyists, moved to deliberate campaigns of misinformation by many members of the press, to shows of downright stupidity by the pundit class and members of congress who did everything in town hall meetings from rudely answering cell phone calls, shouting down constituents as outsiders and NAZIs, and demonstrating complete incompetence by explaining why reading the bills they vote on was too complex and long for them. We've had POTUS go back on the campaign trail, completely unable to read a coherent explanation about what the plan is and left to decry things like 'we're not going to kill any one's grandma.' [Ever since Baucus took the public option off the table and Rahm Emanuel said Obama would consider signing a bill without a public option, I knew the fix was in. Saying that we lost the public option because of incompetence is too kind. It was an intentional screw up, a Kabuki dance, a game of distraction and let's you and him fight. The opening act was a beer with the president. The main attraction was right-wing rage and left-wing indignation. It was quite a show. The final act was the insurance companies and Big Pharma getting exactly what they wanted. There aren't any do overs or creep toward a better bill. This is it folks. THERE WILL NEVER BE A PUBLIC OPTION. We will never check the power of the K Street until we change the 14th amendment and corporations are no longer people. Sadly, won't feel the full impact of a health care bill until Obama leaves office and we will have long forgotten exactly how we were fooled. Take a bow, Obama. RD] http://tinyurl.com/r23exl http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/rip-public-option/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation: The Dark Side
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Aug 16, 2009, at 11:57 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote: Judy mentioned the concept of meditate and act, the old dipping the cloth stuff we all are familiar with. For some reason this concept always bugged me but I didn't think it through. I think it bothers me because act doesn't mean much. What both bothered and amused me about the dipping/dying of the cloth metaphor, was that TMers (like myself) took it at face value: 'wow, it's really true, each time I transcend, I get more dyed by pure consciousness. He said it, so it must be true.' We could even convince ourselves we were experiencing them, based on our own very 'coached' experiences. I believe what you say is correct, but, in reality, the white cloth in the yellow dye analogy, was just meant to be a teaching tool. Unfortunately, some took it literally as if they were actually obtaining that level of experience right from the beginning which is very rare, and the TMorg and MMY sort of winked about it. More below But, in keeping with TM's watered down presentation of inner yoga, while it is believed in Hindu and Buddhist yoga traditions that repeated samadhi does slowly imbue wakefulness beyond waking, dreaming and sleeping, what they didn't tell us is that the type of samadhi that creates such dyed changes doesn't really happen in TM, if it does, it's probably quite rare. It is probably quite rare in other disciplines as well! It will produce light trance and thought-free states, along with wonderful relaxation, and some prana- kundalini side effects. But the type of samadhi that dyes' a person's consciousness is deep, willed, long-duration, effortless samadhi. And even then there's no guarantee these deep absorptions will change you, unless some part of your practice is geared specifically towards that. In fact, if some part of your practice is NOT geared towards altruism, you'll just end up getting more and more vain and grandiose. True, grace must be balanced by will or *effort* to en-soul your beliefs engendered by true Religion. I'm impressed with the recent work by Antoine Lutz and Richie Davidson where they actually demonstrated that those who experience traditional Hindu or Buddhist samadhis not only went into a rather remarkable high power EEG gamma coherence--but the longer they meditated, the more this signature took over the person's everyday, out of meditation EEG. But these type of meditators could go into samadhi, at will, for the desired length of time, they weren't just 2 x 20 occasional transcenders, but masters of it, by their own own will and truly effortless. Indoctrination in TM, esp. for intelligent folks who are attracted to science, can be very pervasive and convincing. Many have been trained to believe that these light relaxation states are more than they are. TM is an excellent 'one size fits all' meditation, and can be very effective IMO. Most Westerners aren't ready for the more demanding disciplines prescribed by some teachers, hence comes along MMY, who has reached millions (in a real spiritual way) with his simple Yoga-lite for modernity, which is really just the beginning, IMO. Many on this group (and elsewhere) are STILL practitioners of Yoga type meditations (perhaps even yourself) because of MMY introducing them to Eastern teachings. snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Public Option
The lefties who care about a public option, the folks who had faith Obama would keep his campaign promise to have a public option are not happy with him: So Obama campaigns for 2 years with the public option as the centerpiece of his health care reform. He's elected by the largest majority in 20 years, and the public gives him 60 Democratic seats in the Senate and 256 Democratic seats in the House. Obama then publicly lobbies for said public option after he takes office. Then Kent Conrad, who represents like 7 people, and a handful of corrupt Blue Dogs say No way. And Obama caves. Big victory! http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/16/the-end-of-the-public-option/ Without the public option, consumers will be left with a choice between purchasing insurance from the for-profits...or purchasing insurance from Kent Conrad's imaginary friend, the co-opswhich are intended from the start to be unable to compete effectively against the for-profits we've all come to know and despise. Of course, under Obama's health plan we'll all be under a Federal mandate to purchase insurance. Which means that, after the co-ops complete their auto-destruct sequences a few years out, we'll all be chained to a lifetime of Federally enforced obligation to buy insurance from the same megacorps that make billions by denying us health care. http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7264
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Public Option
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 9:24 PM, raunchydograunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: The lefties who care about a public option, the folks who had faith Obama would keep his campaign promise to have a public option are not happy with him: So Obama campaigns for 2 years with the public option as the centerpiece of his health care reform. He's elected by the largest majority in 20 years, and the public gives him 60 Democratic seats in the Senate and 256 Democratic seats in the House. Obama then publicly lobbies for said public option after he takes office. Then Kent Conrad, who represents like 7 people, and a handful of corrupt Blue Dogs say No way. And Obama caves. Big victory! So let us impeach Obama and have Secretary of State Hilary Clinton cut off his balls with her teeth so RD can finally gain peace. RD is so bitter that Obama stole the election from Clinton by being the more popular candidate (not to mention the one us guys and a majority of women would vote for).
[FairfieldLife] CNN Interviews Health Insurance Whistleblower
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[FairfieldLife] Osho on Marriage and Children
To All: He obviously practiced what he preached, and had a good time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocbZhRQS9I
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Public Option
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 9:24 PM, raunchydograunchy...@... wrote: The lefties who care about a public option, the folks who had faith Obama would keep his campaign promise to have a public option are not happy with him: So Obama campaigns for 2 years with the public option as the centerpiece of his health care reform. He's elected by the largest majority in 20 years, and the public gives him 60 Democratic seats in the Senate and 256 Democratic seats in the House. Obama then publicly lobbies for said public option after he takes office. Then Kent Conrad, who represents like 7 people, and a handful of corrupt Blue Dogs say No way. And Obama caves. Big victory! So let us impeach Obama and have Secretary of State Hilary Clinton cut off his balls with her teeth so RD can finally gain peace. RD is so bitter that Obama stole the election from Clinton by being the more popular candidate (not to mention the one us guys and a majority of women would vote for). If Hillary had nixed a public option, I'd be more pissed at her than I am at Obama. I expected her to do the right thing for health care reform. It was her passion and she wasn't going to go two for zero. I never expected anything of Obama, so you should be the one more pissed off at him than I am. Furthermore, you probably don't know what a public option is, don't know that without it we can't keep the insurance companies honest and don't know that this is a major flip flop on Obama's promise to deliver health care reform with a public option. Instead of another ridiculous ad hominem attack on me, become more informed about the issues and start directing your righteous indignation at Obama, or at the very least defend him on the issues. Your feeble attempt at another low brown Jr. High insult is getting tiresome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Public Option
Anglachel is truly the Cassandra of the 2008 election. Many of her posts from 2007 and 2008 predicted everything that is currently happening with Obama. Anyone who has read Anglachel should not be surprised...[about why Obama bailed on the public option.] From a comment, Alegre's Corner http://tinyurl.com/ppv8se http://alegrescorner.soapblox.net/showDiary.do;jsessionid=6B910FA35D8449C6554EF2B689D2354D?diaryId=3522 Anglanchel's Journal Libertarian Paternalism http://tinyurl.com/ouhfa3 http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/2008/05/libertarian-paternalism.html Anglanchel's Journal Not Liberal Not Left http://tinyurl.com/oo9cvv http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/search?q=not+liberal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Balance the budget now...or...impeach!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 4:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Balance the budget now...or...impeach! First of all, there very well may be a crash of the national and global economies if the budget was balanced AS I POINTED OUT IF YOU ACTUALLY READ MY POST, RICK. A little pain now will avoid a whole lot of pain later. What would I do? I would institute a flat tax rate for everyone. I would cut spending on everything across the board in the percentage that the deficit was to total budget. I would immediately eliminate Social Security, to boot. In other words, you would run headlong into a brick wall, because all of those things would necessitate a huge political battle which you couldn't win. YOU would be impeached or voted out of office after a disastrous single term. With the exception of this year (because of pressure from the Americans and because it is a minority government), Canada not only balanced its budget over the last 10 years but actually had a surplus many of those years which they used to pay down their national debt. And Canada did that while still maintaining their single-payer universal health care system. If socialist Canada can do it, so can the U.S.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Balance the budget now...or...impeach!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: What would I do? I would institute a flat tax rate for everyone. I would cut spending on everything across the board in the percentage that the deficit was to total budget. That would be a windfall for the rich. They wind up paying less of their income in taxes than the lower and middle classes. So what exemptions do you propose for those classes? I would immediately eliminate Social Security, to boot. So what are the retirees depending on Social Security supposed to do? Go get jobs? What jobs? The poor seniors (those without assets) could go on welfare; those better off could live off of other assets or incomes, such as the IRAs most of them don't touch during their lifetimes (except for required minimum distributions that start at age 70 1/2). And those that need income can use their main asset -- their home -- and get a reverse mortgage to live off of. Certainly, for those that go on public assistance that would just be shifting the costs over to another department; but it would be less than the SS payout. And you say I don't know how the real world works. :-D
