[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[maskedzebra]

Well I choose to rate it. Because even I (who am a keen student of irony) 
wondered for a while there. But must stop here: I don't want to become the 
object of irony in my appreciation of how you nearly drew me in by yours—first 
time, I think, I have seen it. I mostly resort to irony when the point is too 
obvious to make non-ironically. For me, irony is the most real thing left in 
the world—almost. Has the most potency. Religion can't touch it. As in, when 
Letterman in his monologue says:I registered my son for Scientology camp. 
{And just lets the universe itself set up the feedback.]

There inside the Ed Sullivan theatre the acoustical potential for irony is the 
highest—because of how much of a master of this mode Letterman is. I don't 
think I have ever seen him without, at the very least, the immediate 
contingency of irony. Without (unless somehow you are always in a state of 
grace) irony at your disposal, you are pretty much flat-footed in the 
post-modern world.

There. Getting pedantic about irony. But you see, I almost got fooled here when 
you brought it out, Mark. I'll be waiting for it next time.

The more inwardly sincere you are, the more you have to have irony at the 
ready. Like a sort of 21st century update on Christ's: You must be as innocent 
as a dove, as wise as a serpent.

About those sandals: my own intuition is that sooner or later Maharishi, no 
matter what, will be viewed as an extraordinary character in history—just not 
the glorious saviour we thought he was. I consider those sandals potentially 
worth much more than $70 000. But this is purely in the abstract world of my 
imagination as I contemplate Maharishi's eventual reputation. Objectively, 
then, I think them an authentic relic. Priceless.

After all, for what it's worth I think Maharishi the strongest and most 
exceptional personality since Christ.

Whoops! LW setting in here. Gotta make a fast exit.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 Let's not rate.  Let's call it a complex experiment that didn't quite gel.  I 
 did have some fun with it, though.
 
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 5:26 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
 
  Did you just out-irony me or something, Mark? Seems so.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  
   Wow, are you kidding? So much for loyalty. You're gonna let Sal dictate 
   our interaction and laud her to the skies? What kind of man are you? 
   Canadian? Let's undo everything that happened between us right now. 
   Ready, set, go back to your pre-Mark condition.
   And where did sexuality come from in all this? Perhaps that was Sal's 
   intended innuendo, but it sure wasn't based in reality. Or are you saying 
   that it was and then denying it in a subsequent post?
   I, as you probably know from my earlier response, read it 
   differently--the written word can be so hard to read, if you will, and I 
   can be dense--sexuality didn't even occur to me till I read this. (Of 
   course what could lend itself better to such an interpretation than I'm 
   glad you like it. That goes for both of us.) It was more like FFL: 
   unlimited vituperation always welcome, but please, anything cozy is 
   barely tolerable... No lovefests (Why, oh Judy, is this not an accepted 
   word or phrase? Isn't it common?) allowed, sexual or otherwise. But where 
   does this come from? Those who crave only to vent their pain?
   Anyhoo, piss ant, better back off. Someone else might not like it. And 
   I'll withhold any insights I might have into you, too, as I have just 
   done. Better all around that way.
   (Sal, you are good. Wanna get a room together somewhere? But I'd better 
   be careful here. As previously stated, I'm not even sure if you're a man 
   or a woman...)
   
   On Sep 17, 2011, at 10:53 AM, maskedzebra wrote:
   
Your objective sensitivity and discretion scares me, Sal—awesome. The 
Brokeback thing—I didn't realize it, but definitely it was there. Sad, 
really. But your fast (and functional) wit has saved me. I am pulling 
back on the Mark thing. I just have to remember: Go deeper, Robin: 
remember: Sal is around. She plumbs the depths of things like this. Be 
careful.

And so I will be from now on, Sal. You're most dazzling than Michael's 
first moonwalk.

Too much sunshine. Love ya, Baby Sal.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:

 Would you two like to get a room together
 somewhere?
 Sal
 
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Mark Landau wrote:
 
  I'm glad you like it. That goes for both of us. But then what comes 
  next? I won't, I must must admit, be reading all your posts. But if 
  I do feel I see something in you, did you just give me permission 
  to post it here (not, necessarily, that it will happen)? And I 
  agree about Peter, all that you say here. 
  
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 11:57 PM, maskedzebra wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[Mark Landau]

Well, thanks.  I did try, but I think I over-reached.

On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:10 PM, authfriend wrote:

 I thought the whole thing, from both of you, was just
 hilarious, an FFL classic. And from two relative
 newbies, yet!
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  Let's not rate. Let's call it a complex experiment that didn't quite gel. I 
  did have some fun with it, though.
  
  On Sep 17, 2011, at 5:26 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
  
   Did you just out-irony me or something, Mark? Seems so.
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
   
Wow, are you kidding? So much for loyalty. You're gonna let Sal dictate 
our interaction and laud her to the skies? What kind of man are you? 
Canadian? Let's undo everything that happened between us right now. 
Ready, set, go back to your pre-Mark condition.
And where did sexuality come from in all this? Perhaps that was Sal's 
intended innuendo, but it sure wasn't based in reality. Or are you 
saying that it was and then denying it in a subsequent post?
I, as you probably know from my earlier response, read it 
differently--the written word can be so hard to read, if you will, and 
I can be dense--sexuality didn't even occur to me till I read this. (Of 
course what could lend itself better to such an interpretation than 
I'm glad you like it. That goes for both of us.) It was more like 
FFL: unlimited vituperation always welcome, but please, anything cozy 
is barely tolerable... No lovefests (Why, oh Judy, is this not an 
accepted word or phrase? Isn't it common?) allowed, sexual or 
otherwise. But where does this come from? Those who crave only to vent 
their pain?
Anyhoo, piss ant, better back off. Someone else might not like it. And 
I'll withhold any insights I might have into you, too, as I have just 
done. Better all around that way.
(Sal, you are good. Wanna get a room together somewhere? But I'd better 
be careful here. As previously stated, I'm not even sure if you're a 
man or a woman...)

On Sep 17, 2011, at 10:53 AM, maskedzebra wrote:

 Your objective sensitivity and discretion scares me, Sal—awesome. The 
 Brokeback thing—I didn't realize it, but definitely it was there. 
 Sad, really. But your fast (and functional) wit has saved me. I am 
 pulling back on the Mark thing. I just have to remember: Go deeper, 
 Robin: remember: Sal is around. She plumbs the depths of things like 
 this. Be careful.
 
 And so I will be from now on, Sal. You're most dazzling than 
 Michael's first moonwalk.
 
 Too much sunshine. Love ya, Baby Sal.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ 
 wrote:
 
  Would you two like to get a room together
  somewhere?
  Sal
  
  On Sep 17, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Mark Landau wrote:
  
   I'm glad you like it. That goes for both of us. But then what 
   comes next? I won't, I must must admit, be reading all your 
   posts. But if I do feel I see something in you, did you just give 
   me permission to post it here (not, necessarily, that it will 
   happen)? And I agree about Peter, all that you say here. 
   
   On Sep 16, 2011, at 11:57 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
   
   But you will understand why I must break this off here (LW).
   
   I can feel even in this moment your consciousness upon me—and I 
   like it.
   
   Robin 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[Mark Landau]

Thank you, Steve.  I guess now only November will tell.  One way or another, It 
feels like it could be fun.

On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:18 PM, seventhray1 wrote:

 
 I'm with you.  Mark, I hope it goes well for you.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:
 
  Ditto! I hope they sell way past the reserve.
  I hope it brings him all that he wishes for!
  Maybe some zillionaire from India will purchase them? 
  I hope all goes well.
  This is fun, I am excited for someone to benefit from anything! : )
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
  
   I don't know anything beyond what Mark has shared publicly. I was 
   commenting on how we really don't know anything about the potential 
   buyers of Mark's sandals, or what he will settle for. I hope he makes a 
   bundle. Why not?
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
   
Of course there's a lot of people like that, 
Jim~~but so far I've seen no evidence that 
anyone even close to that league is the least
bit interested. Have you? That's at least one
thing I meant about dangerous delusions. It
seems Mark's entire life in the near future is
being based upon these selling for a significant
amount. So far the only offers I know of are
lurk's and yours. Or have I missed something?
Sal

2011, at 1:16 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:

 There's a lot of people in the world to whom $70K means nothing - its 
 like spending $100 to you or me. As to the intentions of the 
 potential buyer, who knows? Maybe they just like famous shoes. :-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ 
 wrote:
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:06 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 
 I'm hoping that Ted can put my set of flip-flops 
 up for auction at the same time that he puts up 
 Maharishi's sandals, so that I might get some
 spillover traffic from wealthy foot and fraud
 fetishists. Thanks to you and obbajeeba for 
 suggesting the idea. 
 
 I wonder whatever happened to the idea of,
 if you need $$, getting a job. I think
 Mark is living in a dream-world, perhaps
 even dangerously so, if he thinks these
 decades-old relics are going to become
 his salvation.

   
  
 
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[maskedzebra]

I get this, Curtis—and I love it. But I will say that Peter Wallace did 
convince me that all these supernatural coincidences did in fact happen to him 
around these Big Eastern Boys (and Girls). I watched for the slightest 
affectation or guile in his story-telling; but in fact it all came out so 
naturally that I knew he was telling the truth—More than this: at this time 
(mid to late sixties) the universe did in fact cooperate with Maharishi—and get 
behind his whole project. That Nature Support thing: did Maharishi just make 
that up? No, I felt it (Mother is at Home = variant, and even more convincing) 
to be real. And it *was* very real.

But then it gradually attenuated—'Nature withdrew 'her' support from 
Maharishi, and now, if one feels the state of grace of the TMO, one is forced 
to conclude: There has been an actual reversal of fortune—because the grace is 
gone. You could go to an Introductory Lecture in the late seventies and feel 
the metaphysical buzz. Yeah, the invisible powers in the universe seemed to 
like TM and Maharishi. But then something happened and now the buzz has all 
gone. The love has gone. The magic has gone.

BUT there is Peter Wallace, somehow holding inside himself the more halcyon 
days of TM and MMY: the reality of what it all *was* is still inside of him. 
This to me is a kind of miracle. I doubt you would find this reality living 
inside one other initiator in the world. Why, how, does Peter Wallace become 
the repository of these more glorious days? I suppose—just a guess here—because 
we need to remember once what TM and Maharishi were. There was nothing like  
subjective estimation of the phenomenon.

But I detected no attempt by Peter Wallace to make himself special. He *was* 
special, for the reasons I have given: someone has to keep the whole history of 
TM and Maharishi and the Movement inside of them—so it can be seen 
longitudinally, and not just in its decline.

Consider this thought experiment, Curtis, if you will: Take you at the zenith 
of your enthusiasm for TM, Maharishi, and the Teaching: If you fell into a coma 
between that moment (when you were most devoted and keen) and now, and you 
suddenly woke up and listened to Peter Wallace, what would be your experience? 
More significantly, if you woke up now and tried to get a bead on where things 
have gone, how would you go about adjusting to the change between just before 
your coma and now, September 2011?—and of course you would be informed that 
Maharishi had died.

The thing (you might not get this) about you, Curtis, is that miraculously it 
seems (I have referred to this before) you have regained an almost perfect 
normalcy—as if you truly were able to expunge the whole reality (whatever you 
decided you did want to hang around inside of you) of TM and Maharishi (and 
your commitment to the Teaching as an initiator and chairperson of a large TM 
center). I have, I am sure, exerted more force and effort and time to this very 
same process—and still I sense I have wounds and susceptibilities and 
weaknesses that appear singularly absent from yourself.

For me, Peter Russell, then, is an authentic living archive of the whole 
trajectory of the Movement—No, not quite: he has been rendered immune from the 
disillusionment that has set in with everyone else (although there are probably 
thousands who deny that has happened to them; but unconsciously it has—and it 
shows). Peter Wallace, he is really still living out the dream that began in 
Rishikesh—without pretence or falsification. He is really THERE, grooving on 
Maharishi, TM, and his inner experience.

Of course this is but my own point of view on this video. But those things that 
he talks about—the Volvo coming into the gates of Maharishi's ashram right 
after he was told Maharishi was not there—that, and every other incident he 
refers to: it played for me as if he still holds the grace of what touched all 
of us after psychedelics—and seemed to take us much higher.

Peter Wallace *should* make himself the center of attention, because where else 
can we go? If he put the focus on something other than his own internal 
experience, he would be like everyone else left in the Movement—and we wouldn't 
listen to him.

No, this guy is solid in his mystical integrity—even as I challenge anyone to 
point out a single example where this is true in the case of any other one of 
Maharishi's living initiators.

Still, everything you say in response to the video can be seen to be true—but 
not at the purely intuitive level of my experience. I think my response to 
Peter Russell and your response to Peter Russell are both valid.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 As Robin notes, these kinds of stories do make teachers of TM go to that 
 tender level of feeling where many of us ex or not, would have loved to have 
 hung out with the pre-World Government Maharishi in Rishikesh for such an 
 extended period 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[Buck]

CurtisDB,  
That's a good observation about the dynamics inside between them all.  
Evidently it's always much about fealty.  'Place' around the movement was 
always conferred by Maharishi and for a long time and still is conferred by the 
Prime Minister Bevan.  The Wallaces are very much kept at hand by virtue of the 
Prime Minister even now.  Theirs is a different category than say, Jerry Jarvis 
by relationship.  The Prime Minister is a most powerful person inside even now.

Peter is interesting to see in this 'after the death of the founder' era 
because of his more unique elder status.  It seems this particular Mayhew 
effort of the video was extra-territorial from the Prime Minister's grasp.  
However, I can understand an earnestness by some wanting to collect material 
first-hand from the founding generation, those who were with Maharishi to help 
inform those-to-come about who Maharishi was and what it was like in those 
times.  For TM, regardless there is a future.  Folks have their experience with 
it and reconciling all the stories is just part of the dealing with the paradox 
we are left with.  Peter has a place in that process locally.  

Peter evidently was not much in the organization but was there around the 
middle through much of the time by virtue of his family.  I am glad he is 
bouncing back from his stroke and able to carry on this way as an elder 
statesman of the old movement.  Before his stroke Peter was more actively 
present and availing himself around the MUM campus community.  They have 
collected video from his talks with students from then.  His talks were really 
quite fun.  I thought it was an alarming consequent in the sustainability and 
work of bolstering of the TM-movement when he suffered his stroke.  I am glad 
he is back to share his experience.  He has a great perspective and is fun to 
listen to.  Bevan might not like it but mediators old an new do.  Hopefully 
Peter will survive some more.

And, where Jerry Jarvis?

-Buck in FF

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 I never met Peter and am not saying he is not a normal guy.  I think I am 
 saying he actually is a normal guy with one too many super normal stories.  I 
 did meet guys like him in the movement who have one too many miraculous tales 
 to tell. 
 
snip
 
 Your read on the minder may be correct.  Guys like Peter from the royal 
 Wallace family have always caused trouble for the movement because they don't 
 bow to any of Maharishi's minions.  I saw that with certain people who had 
 been around Maharishi in the early days.  Jerry was treated that way, with 
 suspicion that he wouldn't tow the latest party line when he was at MIU.
 

[FairfieldLife] Sustainability of TM

[Buck]

As doctrine of faith and belief in Maharishi
versus
the practicing of the technique.  

A TM-movement that tests for faith on the one hand, 
or just facilitates its practitioners on the other.

Will the movement be sustaining, 

what would promote its sustainability?

Are the numbers sustainable as it is?

What should the TM-Rajas do?

-Buck

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[RoryGoff]

* * * We also have a Crop Circle Cafe in town that Peter has probably heard of, 
if not visited, by now :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
 
  If Nabby stops by Fairfield to see Mr. Wallace, will someone video
 record Mr. Wallace's face when Nabby starts talking to him about Crop
 CirclesLMAO.
 
 I'll bring him a book of the latest circles :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crop-Circles-UFOs-Ancient-Mysteries-Scie\
 ntific-Speculations/246667595346687?ref=tssk=wall
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@
 wrote:
   
Did you know this guy Peter before? Just curious, because he seems
 normal enough. Perhaps it was the propensity of all of those governors
 to toot their horns in the political environment around Maharishi that
 has (overly) sensitized you for any hint of this behavior when you watch
 something like this. I don't know.
   
As for the TM teacher next to him, he almost seemed like a
 minder from a totalitarian regime, placed next to Peter to ensure he
 continued to hew to the party line. The other guy's facial expressions
 were disconcerting and amusing at the same time, as if he always wanted
 to be reflecting the deep truth of what Peter was saying,
 intellectually. At one point, after the camera pulled back and Mr. TM
 Teacher insinuated himself into the frame, I had to watch it with my
 hand covering his face, as his agitations were seriously distracting.
  
  
   Agreed. That's why Peter Wallce needs someone to interview him who
 does not interrupt. Just when he got into a very interesting bit this
 fellow jumps in from the left and effectively stops a very interesting
 flow of knowledge.
   Just having a fellow like that there who was friendly with Maharishi
 AND Ananda Mayi Ma is reason enough for me to consider making a stop in
 Fairfield soon.
  
 

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[RoryGoff]

* * * Good question. The 2D Yin-Yang dynamically reminds me very much of a 4D 
Klein Bottle, which in turn appears not all that unlike the 3D Torus, albeit a 
bit less symmetrical...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 I was imagining (imaging?) it after you described it, and wondering when we 
 see it as a 2D representation, what it looks like as a 3D model, what is 
 going on from the side, or in the back. Would be a cool thing to render in 
 AutoCAD.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  Ha! Yeah, precisely that, Jim! :-)
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
  
   Nice description - like that Yin Yang Symbol thingie! :-)
   
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
   
Ah, outward stroke! So perhaps we can see our white-hole (inner 
destroyer, outer creator) as our simple thought-pattern/Pater 
impressing on our external golden equator (outward half of Soul/Sol, 
light-consciousness aware of itself: outer creation) and then 
flipping as action into black-hole matter/Mater (outer destroyer, inner 
creator) to collapse into our central singularity-point (inward half of 
Soul/Sol light-consciousness: inner I AM particle or creature) which 
thus experiences the action-reaction incarnate effect of our own 
thought...a beautiful feedback mechanism. 

From the inside, Love-Being is the black-hole, Consciousness is the I 
AM golden light-singularity or Solar furnace, and Active Bliss is the 
white-hole; from the outside, Love-Being is the white-hole, 
Consciousness is the THAT ALONE IS golden light-disc or light-equator, 
and Active Bliss the black-hole. The destruction of the inner is the 
creation of the outer, and vice versa: Each viewpoint negates and 
complements the other.

*L*L*L*

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:

 Inward stroke dude. Same deal. Was talking about the outward one. All 
 good, Over and out there.:-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  * * Could be, Jim! I like to see it psychologically as  Energy 
  (Bliss or Spirit) is Mass (gravity-Love or Body) times 
  Consciousness or Awareness (Soul) squared, or Aware of ItSelf: that 
  is, we digest a Solid other into our Solar, Soular I AM furnace 
  by knowing it through Love as our Self, thereby converting it into 
  pure Energy or Bliss -- HA! :-D
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ 
  wrote:
  
   So if we take the C squared as a constant, and assume it to be 
   Unlimited or Pure Consciousness*, the E = MC squared equation is 
   then rendered as Energy, or Thought, Equals Mass times 
   Consciousness squared, or Action reflecting Pure Consciousness. 
   
   Next, writing the equation with Pure Consciousness closer to 
   Thought, it becomes, Thought Supported By Pure Consciousness 
   Equals Action, [T/C = A], or Yogastah Kuru Karmani.
   
   * It should be noted that Pure Consciousness is an approximation 
   in  the equation, using the vast possibilities inherent in the 
   value of Consciousness squared, to approximate Pure 
   Consciousness.  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ 
   wrote:
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 Constant, a particular constant, the speed of light.  But you 
 knew that, right?  

* * * Constant-- beautiful, Mark! No, I really know nothing. 
But yes, within the body of manifestation there may be one 
relative Constant, the light-awareness of I AM, ever balancing 
between creation and destruction :-) 

Mark Landau m@... wrote:
I may not get that far, but I keep thinking I should rework 
your torus a little.  My guess is it could be reworked in a 
lot of ways.

* * * You're probably right! Being pretty close to fundamental, 
it must find many, many ways to rework itself to express 
apparent differentiation.
   
  
 

   
  
 

[FairfieldLife] WEBCAM 101 for SENIORS

[Bob Price]

 
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/unlikely-youtube-stars-enjoying-a-senior-moment-20110916-1kdz5.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[Bob Price]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvNfPSXWZqwfeature=related



From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:49:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: 
Merudanda/Sandals)





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
 
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:06 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
  
   I'm hoping that Ted can put my set of flip-flops 
   up for auction at the same time that he puts up 
   Maharishi's sandals, so that I might get some
   spillover traffic from wealthy foot and fraud
   fetishists. Thanks to you and obbajeeba for 
   suggesting the idea. 
  
  I wonder whatever happened to the idea of,
  if you need $$, getting a job.
 
 Gee, Sal, I bet there's a whole lot of unemployed
 people in this country who never thought of such
 a brilliant solution to their financial problems.
 Just go out and get a job, nothin' to it. You
 really ought to write a letter to the editor or
 something.
 
   I think
  Mark is living in a dream-world, perhaps
  even dangerously so, if he thinks these
  decades-old relics are going to become
  his salvation.
 
 Right. I mean, if they were *new* relics, they 
 might actually be worth something.
 
 (You have to forgive poor Stupid Sal for her
 pique; after all, she had predicted Mark would
 be lucky to get $1,000 for the sandals. Now
 that she's learned that the guy who runs the
 very successful memorabilia auction house
 handling the sale thinks a reserve price of
 $70,000 or more is appropriate, you just can't
 blame her for taking her embarrassment out on
 Mark.)


...and precisely why I would not ever challenge AuStein to a dual. 
Quick draw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhN19EBp_b4 and a bitch slap to 
follow!  LOL! 


   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[maskedzebra]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:05 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
 
RESPONSE 1: These remarks don't represent the experiential context of TM. Are 
you a meditator? a former TM teacher? Not that (if you are not a TMer) this 
invalidates your point of view—but I feel as if I am reading about the 
experience and perspective of someone who did not submit himself to the 
Puja—nor to the transcendent movement within his mind, of TM itself. As far as 
TM is concerned, I intuit you are tone-deaf [when it comes to TM]. But standing 
apart from this, of course you are legitimately entitled to your evaluation of 
the merits of my impression of Peter Wallace.
 
Vajradhatu: I'm as experienced as just about anyone here. So, yes, I'm quite 
familiar with the puja, TM, etc.

MZ: Suspiciously general [quite familiar], lacks specifics: Just say right 
out, Vaj: Robin, I was initiated into TM. I have initiated (name an 
approximate number) people into TM. To force yourself to confess these facts 
like this will convince me of the veracity of your claim. And I will apologize 
for doubting your status as a meditator/initiator. I just, as it were, don't 
see (or feel) the mark of the beast on you.
 
RESPONSE 1: If you have never gone down on your knees in front of the portrait 
of Guru Dev, your comments make much more sense to me. Just as Rick Archer's 
guests on BatGap (unless, like Phil Goldberg they are connected to TM and 
Maharishi) know nothing of what appears to be the unique context of spiritual 
reality one comes to know (and it stays with one) through TM—and most 
emphatically through initiating people into this practice.
 
All those, especially initiators, on this forum share a common metaphysical 
denominator: I think you would have to have join the club to really appreciate 
Peter Wallace.
 
But perhaps I am myself just failing to get the biological and psychological 
evidence of your association with TM. TM and MMY: these are realities which 
make themselves familiar to us in the deepest way; at least this is what I have 
found since I began to meditate. And then initiating people into TM—that takes 
things to yet another level.

If Keith Wallace did what you say he did, then that was wrong. But it (this act 
by Peter's brother) does not impugn the truthfulness of the impression that 
Peter Wallace made on me.
 
Vajradhatu: I see Peter's particular sentimentality merely as a peculiar form 
of suffering typical to hard-core TMers. I do not believe it requires that one 
be a TM teacher, but those that are find it hardest, if not impossible to shake.
 
MZ:This response makes no sense to me within the context of TM and Maharishi. 
That peculiar form of suffering typical to hard-core TMers is sui generis 
(IMO): it is not universal. TM (and Maharishi) have a distinct and ineffaceable 
influence over every TM teacher—and it is not something one can just jettison 
with one's will. This is one of the potential downsides of TM. The nature of 
the suffering of a TM initiator, IMO, is unique.  

RESPONSE 1: You seem held up on the level of *content* alone; seemingly lacking 
the quality of TM engrams in your nervous system which would make you really 
know what is going on. Not that I would recommend you take up the practice of 
TM.
 
Vajradhatu: Once the effect of TM's transcending is transcended, it can be 
dropped like old clothing one no longer desires in the slightest. But one would 
need to make the foundational shift, and heart-felt decision, to do so.
 
MZ: Here's where you give yourself away, Vaj, for no one who has transcended 
through TM can ever transcend that transcendence. You are substituting a 
concept or belief you have for an experience which you have never had. Else you 
wouldn't be caught dead saying this. I know of not one person—or at least not 
one initiator—in the world who has successfully eliminated from the memory of 
his her her mind and physiology the effect of doing TM. 

Vajradhatu: So, to me, Peter's dronings are like watching an old man wearing 
long worn out clothing that's he's never been able to remove. I guess I would 
characterize the feeling I get as pathetic. 
 
MZ: Wrong again, Vaj: Peter is steeped in the experience of transcendence, and 
it appears to have moulded him into what he is. The real human being is there 
having been formed by Maharishi, TM, and teaching TM. His gentleness and 
serenity and sensitivity seem quite remarkable to me. If the feeling you get 
from him is pathetic, I choose to interpret that word (as applied to PW) in a 
positive sense: as in PW has suffered and surrendered to be where he 
is—although there are persons on FFL who have scorned him as you have (but they 
have done this still possessed by the context of TM—even as they have formally 
disassociated themselves from anything to do with TM, Maharishi, or the TM 
Movement).

But hey! It seems from the comments about this video there is a sharp 

[FairfieldLife] Movie Review: Beautiful Lies (De vrais mensonges)

[turquoiseb]

Released last year in France but only recently released on DVD with
English subtitles, this is probably the most enjoyable film I've seen in
months. (And I say that even if its English title is a lie; the French
really translates more to True Lies, but I guess that title was
already taken by an Ahnold movie.)

This film was created by Pierre Salvadori, writer of Wild Target and
Priceless (Hors de prix) and again employs the French megastar (for
Amelie) who made Priceless...uh...so priceless, Audrey Tautou. She
is just so cute that one is tempted to think that all one has to do is
point a camera at her and give her a similar name (in this movie she's
Emelie), and you've got a hit movie on your hands.

It's more complicated than that, of course. To make a hit movie, one
also needs a great script (this movie has one) and co-stars equal to
Tautou's stature and quirkiness. Salvadori went for the big guns, using
an even bigger French star (Natalie Baye, with 89 films to her credit)
to play Emelie's mother, and Sami Bouajila to play the love
interest...of both.

It's not quite as kinky as it sounds. Jean (Bouajila) is smitten with
Emelie and writes her an anonymous love letter. Emelie, to self-obsessed
to either figure out who it's from or care, throws the letter away. But
then when she finds her mother moping around three years after a
divorce, she tries to cheer her up by copying the love letter and
sending it off to Mom. Mom's life perks up, but when she finds out who
really sent it, Emelie's life gets very, very complicated. It's really
MUCH funnier than it sounds; I watched it with a male friend and we both
howled with laughter all the way through, so it's not at all the chick
flick it may sound like. Here's a trailer, which you should watch before
reading the rest of this review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh79BDHECig

Did you notice in the trailer how gorgeous Audrey Tautou is? No surprise
there, of course. But did you notice how gorgeous Natalie Baye is,
playing her mother? Here's the kicker -- Natalie Baye is old enough to
be Tautou's grandmother. She's 62. And if her PR is accurate, she's
stayed this beautiful for this long just as a result of having good
French genes, without having to go the cosmetic surgery route. Truly
astounding.

Both women are tremendous actors, and their timing in this flick is
flawless. Sami Bouajila gets to play mainly the poor befuddled lovesick
guy who doesn't quite know what's happening, but his sense of timing
makes that hilarious as well. One aspect of this film -- mainly set in a
beauty salon owned by Emelie at which Jean works as a handyman and Maddy
(Baye) visits as a customer -- is that for the French it hearkens back
to another delightful and successful comedy, Venus Beauty Institute.
In that film, Natalie Baye played the owner of a salon, and a young,
then unknown Audrey Tautou played one of her employees.

If I gave out stars in these silly mini-reviews I write for FFL, this
movie would get my highest rating. It's truly delightful, and IMO will
cheer up even the grumpiest of curmudgeons, on the program of off.

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 Thank you, this is interesting, see below.
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:42 PM, RoryGoff wrote:
 
  * * No, Mark, I haven't returned to the Dome since 2006. It felt and looked 
  as if M wanted me in there for that time -- that was really why I went, as 
  I had no desire from my side to return -- and it was an incredible gift 
  that healed the very last of my judgments and the unfinished business 
  between us, bursting my heart open again and again as he upheld my entire 
  life and being, even and especially the heretical parts, and showed me 
  what everything looked like from his side in incredible unconditional Love. 
  Not that I had even known I still desired such! But that was it -- I see it 
  now as his exceedingly generous farewell gift to me, and I remain blown 
  away, at once deeply humbled and exalted by it all to this day.
  
 Hmm, while he was still here.  Nice.  Can't say that he so gifted me, nor 
 that I perceived him as always behaving from incredible unconditional Love.  

How do you reconcile this with the Hitler images?


It's obviously none of my business to have an opinion about all this. But since 
it was I who introduced the possebility for you to go to MUM in the first place 
I'd like to say this: Unless you internalize the sentence you just wrote above 
you have nothing to do in the Domes or at MUM. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[Vaj]

On Sep 17, 2011, at 3:20 AM, maskedzebra wrote:

 MZ: Here's where you give yourself away, Vaj, for no one who has transcended 
 through TM can ever transcend that transcendence. You are substituting a 
 concept or belief you have for an experience which you have never had. Else 
 you wouldn't be caught dead saying this. I know of not one person—or at least 
 not one initiator—in the world who has successfully eliminated from the 
 memory of his her her mind and physiology the effect of doing TM. 

I think you need to get out more. Most people are only convinced they're 
transcending, through suggestion. 99.9% of people simply transcend into a 
lulling layer, a laya. Those that happen to rarely transcend are usually quite 
obvious: they run around telling people they're enlightened.

[FairfieldLife] Half of Dutch teenagers regularly have a mild psychotic experience: study

[Vaj]

Half of Dutch teenagers regularly have a mild psychotic experience: study
September 16th, 2011 in Psychology  Psychiatry 


Mild psychotic experiences, such as delusive ideas or moderate feelings of 
paranoia, regularly occur among adolescents. Of the almost 7700 Dutch young 
people aged 12 to 16 years who were investigated by NWO researcher Hanneke 
Wigman during her doctoral research, about 40% reported that they often had 
such an experience. Wigman will defend her doctorate on Friday 16 September at 
Utrecht University.

There are five types of 'mild psychotic experiences' according to the 
researcher: hallucinations, delusions, paranoia, megalomania and paranormal 
convictions. Examples are hearing voices, the feeling that thoughts are being 
taken out of your head or the feeling that people are acting differently from 
what they are. These experiences are milder in nature than those of a 
psychosis, one of the most severe psychiatric disorders.

Using self-reports, Hanneke Wigman compared the prevalence of such psychotic 
experiences in teenagers (12-16 years) and adult women (18-45 years). This 
revealed that about 40% of the teenagers regularly have at least one of the 
five forms of psychotic experience, compared to just 2% of the adult women. The 
researcher also noticed the differences between teenage boys and teenage girls. 
For example, megalomania was reported more often by boys than girls. 
Hallucinations, delusions, paranoia and paranormal convictions occurred more 
among girls.

Typical for adolescence

The research results suggest that mild psychotic experiences are typical for 
adolescence. 'Adolescence is a period in which feelings of uncertainty play a 
role. Young people become more aware of themselves and are often sensitive for 
their changing social environment. That makes them more susceptible to paranoid 
thoughts and observations, for example,' explains Hanneke Wigman.

Adolescents find it harder than adults to distinguish between important and 
unimportant internal and external stimuli. This means, for example, that they 
are more susceptible to hallucinations. Wigman has also shown that the mild 
psychotic experiences undergone can change during adolescence. 'Some young 
people have many such experiences at the start of adolescence that decrease 
later in adolescence, but there are also young people who experience it the 
other way round,' says the researcher.

Persistent

For most young people, mild psychotic experiences are transient in nature. If 
young people experience something like that then they do not need to panic 
according to the researcher. 'But,' says Wigman, 'if the symptoms persist or 
other symptoms develop in conjunction with these then help should be sought.' 
This is because the researcher discovered that under certain conditions, such 
as cannabis use, the bottling up of problems, genetic susceptibility or a 
traumatic event, psychotic experiences can persist. Such persistent experiences 
in young people increase the risk of a psychosis or depression at a later age.

New group in view

With her research, Wigman has gained a better understanding of the group of 
adolescents who have persistent mild psychotic experiences but nevertheless 
belong to the normal population (they have not been admitted to a clinic, for 
example). This group did not receive sufficient attention during previous 
research into psychosis. That is because to date, the researchers mainly 
focused on people with a ‘particularly high risk’ of developing a psychosis or 
people who had already experienced one or more psychoses. A greater focus on 
intervention in the group of people with persistent psychotic experiences could 
lead to the postponement, alleviation or even prevention of a psychosis at a 
later age.

Provided by Netherlands Organisation for Scientific Research (NWO)


Half of Dutch teenagers regularly have a mild psychotic experience: study. 
September 16th, 2011. 
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-09-dutch-teenagers-regularly-mild-psychotic.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Review: Beautiful Lies (De vrais mensonges)

[merudanda]

hei dude how you dare [:D]  to write such a bloody good review [;)]
...cannot add anything...just smile at your timing (!)skill and nod in
agreement and mmmh may be
  Audrey Tautou on English men at BBC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orW3iGUP26k
she does not know what womanizing means--cute
http://tinyurl.com/664sugy
gotta go back to watchthe movie
BTW good to know  not being alone  struggling with English as a Lingua
franca
Nathalie Bayein a thrilling investigation of the
long hidden truth about European cinema, a choice morsel for all film
lovers
HH, Hitler à Hollywood
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1576443/
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Released last year in France but only recently released on DVD with
 English subtitles, this is probably the most enjoyable film I've seen
in
 months. (And I say that even if its English title is a lie; the French
 really translates more to True Lies, but I guess that title was
 already taken by an Ahnold movie.)

 This film was created by Pierre Salvadori, writer of Wild Target and
 Priceless (Hors de prix) and again employs the French megastar (for
 Amelie) who made Priceless...uh...so priceless, Audrey Tautou. She
 is just so cute that one is tempted to think that all one has to do is
 point a camera at her and give her a similar name (in this movie she's
 Emelie), and you've got a hit movie on your hands.

 It's more complicated than that, of course. To make a hit movie, one
 also needs a great script (this movie has one) and co-stars equal to
 Tautou's stature and quirkiness. Salvadori went for the big guns,
using
 an even bigger French star (Natalie Baye, with 89 films to her credit)
 to play Emelie's mother, and Sami Bouajila to play the love
 interest...of both.

 It's not quite as kinky as it sounds. Jean (Bouajila) is smitten with
 Emelie and writes her an anonymous love letter. Emelie, to
self-obsessed
 to either figure out who it's from or care, throws the letter away.
But
 then when she finds her mother moping around three years after a
 divorce, she tries to cheer her up by copying the love letter and
 sending it off to Mom. Mom's life perks up, but when she finds out who
 really sent it, Emelie's life gets very, very complicated. It's really
 MUCH funnier than it sounds; I watched it with a male friend and we
both
 howled with laughter all the way through, so it's not at all the chick
 flick it may sound like. Here's a trailer, which you should watch
before
 reading the rest of this review:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh79BDHECig

 Did you notice in the trailer how gorgeous Audrey Tautou is? No
surprise
 there, of course. But did you notice how gorgeous Natalie Baye is,
 playing her mother? Here's the kicker -- Natalie Baye is old enough to
 be Tautou's grandmother. She's 62. And if her PR is accurate, she's
 stayed this beautiful for this long just as a result of having good
 French genes, without having to go the cosmetic surgery route. Truly
 astounding.

 Both women are tremendous actors, and their timing in this flick is
 flawless. Sami Bouajila gets to play mainly the poor befuddled
lovesick
 guy who doesn't quite know what's happening, but his sense of timing
 makes that hilarious as well. One aspect of this film -- mainly set in
a
 beauty salon owned by Emelie at which Jean works as a handyman and
Maddy
 (Baye) visits as a customer -- is that for the French it hearkens back
 to another delightful and successful comedy, Venus Beauty Institute.
 In that film, Natalie Baye played the owner of a salon, and a young,
 then unknown Audrey Tautou played one of her employees.

 If I gave out stars in these silly mini-reviews I write for FFL, this
 movie would get my highest rating. It's truly delightful, and IMO will
 cheer up even the grumpiest of curmudgeons, on the program of off.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[Mark Landau]

And let's not underestimate Eastern woo.  Western science only recently 
discovered that mass equals energy, a lot of energy.  Eastern science has been 
exploring and utilizing energy for millennia, at least in terms of it's 
relationship to life, consciousness, the heart and spirit and has developed 
awesome technologies in this regard.  And isn't it that mass equals energy 
equals consciousness, each being more fundamental than the last?  There's a lot 
more to Eastern woo than just woo.  If we want wholeness, being all that we can 
be, all that we are, don't we have to incorporate it all?  But maybe I'm 
covering ancient territory here.

On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

 Exactly. Eastern woo aside, those sandals are still an article of clothing 
 worn by someone who was undeniably famous. The only way it would be a swindle 
 is if the sandals weren't actually MMY's sandals.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  But here I draw the line. Sal, this is simply beyond your comprehension.
  I can guarantee you that, even now, there are thousands of people, really, 
  tens of thousands who would never feel swindled to have these come into 
  their possession and would be transported to heaven, at least temporarily, 
  while holding them precious and themselves blessed for the remainder of 
  their lives. Of course you would hold them delusional, but they would hold 
  you hopelessly ignorant. It's an Indian (Eastern) thing.  The Western 
  mentality just can't grok this.
  And hey, this auction house gets six figures for John Lennon's jacket, so 
  why not close to that for M's sandals?
  
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
  
   On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:03 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
   
I don't know anything beyond what Mark has shared publicly. I was 
commenting on how we really don't know anything about the potential 
buyers of Mark's sandals, or what he will settle for. I hope he makes a 
bundle. Why not?
   
   So you hope someone's going to get swindled?
   Sal 
   
  
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[whynotnow7]

It would be a miracle beyond belief if those here who continue to  criticize 
the Movement and Maharishi for decades would actually figure out where all of 
that displaced anger, criticism, and frustration comes from. It sure ain't the 
thing they've been away from for decades. 

These long ranting posts where venom and dislike is heaped on Maharishi as if 
his words and actions occurred yesterday, are much more symptomatic of the 
writer's mentality than anything Maharishi did. A victim's mentality - 
arrogance displaced. Pronouncing judgment and focusing all their misery and 
lost dreams on a man who no longer exists and has no influence on them any 
longer. Like the person who has a difficult day at work and comes home to 
berate their partner or kick the dog. How ignorant of one's own nature can a 
person be to pour out their disdain for a man who is dead, again and again? 
Pretty fucked up in my estimation.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 * * No, Mark, I haven't returned to the Dome since 2006. It felt and looked 
 as if M wanted me in there for that time -- that was really why I went, as I 
 had no desire from my side to return  -- and it was an incredible gift that 
 healed the very last of my judgments and the unfinished business between us, 
 bursting my heart open again and again as he upheld my entire life and being, 
 even and especially the heretical parts, and showed me what everything 
 looked like from his side in incredible unconditional Love. Not that I had 
 even known I still desired such! But that was it -- I see it now as his 
 exceedingly generous farewell gift to me, and I remain blown away, at once 
 deeply humbled and exalted by it all to this day.
 
 I cannot really speak for you, of course, Mark, but yes, I have been finding 
 it most healthy and simple to take responsiblity for my entire world and all 
 the stories I spin therein, especially the parts that disturb me the most, as 
 therein lies the greatest opportunity for growth in Love and self-knowledge, 
 as Love, like Brahman, consumes everything, swallows every one of us whole.
 
 I am not sure about any mandatoriness of suit and dome-going; it probably 
 varies from job to job but I have never inquired. I will if you really wish 
 me to, but I am not at present particularly involved with that arena. And 
 yes, we would love to welcome you here -- my good and great friend Tom T. 
 especially has inquired about you repeatedly, and would love to hear from you 
 sometime.
 
 *L*L*L* always :-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  Have you been to the dome since those 2 weeks in 2006?  Would I have to 
  take responsibility for M having the kind of sex with Jennifer that made 
  her run away screaming and refusing to come back (not that I haven't done 
  that selfsame thing in a different kind of way so, in that way, I do take 
  responsibility for it)?  If I worked at MUM, would going to the dome twice 
  a day and wearing a suit and tie be mandatory?  I would probably feel 
  better about working for MUM than the nuclear man, but I'm not sure it 
  would be the best move for me.  But, like I said, I don't rule anything out.
  But being warm-heartedly welcomed by you and your closest friends would be 
  one of the reasons I would come there!
  LLL back at ya,
  m
  
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 8:58 PM, RoryGoff wrote:
  
   * * You never know, Mark! I was re-admitted to the Dome in 2006 after 24 
   years' absence, despite all I had done, said, and written over the years, 
   and the rap-sheet they clearly still had on file. (Admittedly, in the 
   meantime I had taken full responsibility for and healed all of those MMY- 
   and TMO-related wounds and dramas I had perceived as coming from out 
   there.) 
   
   And what a homecoming it was -- overwhelmingly fulfilling beyond my 
   wildest imagination and beyond my ability to express, during the two 
   weeks I was called to be in the Dome. Granted, nowhere near as intimate a 
   relationship as the one you contemplate. But I do guarantee you this -- 
   if you come to Fairfield you will find a warm-hearted welcome, at the 
   very least from me and my closest friends here! :-)
   
   *L*L*L*
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
   
I actually, believe it or not, haven't completely ruled something like 
this out, though, from what I've written here, said in the film, etc., 
I would probably never be welcome. And then I'd have to deal with the 
Jim Mayhews of the world on a daily basis... Not sure I could do it.

On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:21 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  Probably not my salvation, I have pretty much given up on that, 
  again, but, hopefully, helpful. And, yes, I have been flirting with 
  dangerous dream worlds all my life. Perhaps this 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[whynotnow7]

Welcome to the Cranky Old Bastards club Vaj! Reserved for losers like you, who 
cannot stand to hear the words they cannot apply to themselves, applied to 
another! Anyway, just wanted to let you know you've got a lifetime membership, 
unless you decide otherwise. Now carry on with your rant against nothing, and 
continue to convince us the bitterness and envy you express have nothing to do 
with you - its all that guy or gal saying they are enlightened! THAT'S the 
problem, right Vaj?:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 3:20 AM, maskedzebra wrote:
 
  MZ: Here's where you give yourself away, Vaj, for no one who has 
  transcended through TM can ever transcend that transcendence. You are 
  substituting a concept or belief you have for an experience which you have 
  never had. Else you wouldn't be caught dead saying this. I know of not one 
  person—or at least not one initiator—in the world who has successfully 
  eliminated from the memory of his her her mind and physiology the effect of 
  doing TM. 
 
 I think you need to get out more. Most people are only convinced they're 
 transcending, through suggestion. 99.9% of people simply transcend into a 
 lulling layer, a laya. Those that happen to rarely transcend are usually 
 quite obvious: they run around telling people they're enlightened.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[Mark Landau]

Thank you, Bob

On Sep 16, 2011, at 11:48 PM, Bob Price wrote:

 Thank you Turq, I enjoyed your post.
 
 I'm also happy for Mark if he gets 6 figures or more for the sandals---all the
 more power to him---he'll get nothing from me but admiration. In addition to
 the obvious benefit, he'll be proving the value of the time he spent with 
 someone,
 I consider a truly great man. If he gets a million: he'll just be matching a
 bid to his ask, which is one of the many things that make America great. I
 believe, he'll be standing on the shoulders of some great geniuses, 
 including: Maharishi
 and P.T. Barnum. 
 
 Although, I agree with many of Barry's statements, I'm not sure I come to the 
 same
 conclusions. To me, it's obvious---Maharishi did not represent any significant
 Hindu tradition, as he claimed. IMO, the mantras came from some temple walls,
 he visited in Southern India. And its likely the closest Brahmananda 
 Saraswati ever
 came to the TMO were the renderings Maharishi's had his uncle make of the 
 great
 man from old photos. For me this in no way diminishes Maharishi's 
 achievements.
 Just because he was a fraud, doesn’t mean he was not a genius. I compare him 
 to
 P.T as a compliment. In my mind, they were both entertainers---that gave their
 customers what they wanted and paid for. 
 
 P.T. has been quoted as saying: there's a sucker born every minute---he more
 likely said: there's a customer born every minute.  Great promoters like PT 
 and M understand
 the importance of story to the human condition. We all tell stories and we all
 need to be told stories, as much as we need human interaction. Part of P.T.’s
 genius was that he knew how to double down---as Curtis describes
 it. He knew this was fundamental to the magic of entertainment. If some
 humorless reporter criticized one of his shows, say: The lady
 is half alligator---he would just double down and the show would become:
 Direct from IndiaKali, the lady with six arms who is half
 alligator.  This is not, unlike, Maharishi's response to losing the court 
 case: Get
 rid of Jerry Jarvis and Charlie Donohue, and announce: people can
 fly---without aircraft! Classic up selling if you ask me.
 
 As a businessman, I believe I owe much of my success to Maharishi, without 
 him, I could have
 ended up in jail or an asylum---much earlier. IMO, we cannot understand 
 Maharishi
 without understanding his buyers.  One of Maharishi's insights was the 
 relationship between power, story
 telling and the need of many people, for simple answers to questions that will
 always remain a mystery. 
 
 Another great magician was Orson Wells and one of his, IMO, under appreciated 
 efforts
 was: F for Fake which addresses some of the things Turq brought up,
 as well as, the relationship between art and fraud. In addition, to his many
 other talents, I believe, Maharishi was a great performance artist---one of 
 the
 best.  
 
 I recommend, both the following links---which may inspire you to watch the 
 film.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c51P0vjseofeature=related
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDBwpwjYhR4feature=related
 
 Good luck Mark. 
 
 
 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 3:06:13 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: 
 Merudanda/Sandals)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  Hi everyone, I have decided to go the route below. Thank 
  you, ob. I have already turned down 10K. Ted thinks my 
  reserve price of $70K or better is quite doable. They 
  take 15%. If I weren't in this predicament of my own 
  making, I would probably keep them.
 
 Happy to hear that you might make some money off of
 Maharishi's sandals, Mark. Your story, in fact, has
 inspired me to contact Ted and see if he wants to 
 help me market a pair of sandals that I have in
 my possession.
 
 They're actually rubber flip-flops, not sandals per
 se, but they did once belong to Clifford Irving. He
 left them by my pool in Santa Fe once when he came
 over for a swim, and for some reason they wound up
 in a box of my old stuff and I've still got them.
 
 I think the parallel between Maharishi and Clifford
 Irving is strong enough so that the flip-flops in 
 my possession might be worth the big bucks, too. 
 Clifford, if you don't know his name, became most 
 famous by perpetrating a fraud. He wrote a supposed
 authorized biography of reclusive billionaire 
 Howard Hughes, and passed it off as if he had 
 really met the man and was an authority on what
 he wrote about him. In reality, Clifford made it
 all up. 
 
 In the write-up that Ted prepares for Clifford's
 flip-flops, I suggest he stress the parallels 
 between them and Maharishi's sandals. Both are
 items of footwear. Both were previously owned by
 people who claimed to be something they weren't.
 In Clifford's case, he claimed to be an 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Review: Beautiful Lies (De vrais mensonges)

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:

 hei dude how you dare [:D] to write such a bloody good review [;)]
 ...cannot add anything...just smile at your timing (!)skill 
 and nod in agreement and mmmh may be
   Audrey Tautou on English men at BBC
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orW3iGUP26k
 she does not know what womanizing means--cute
 http://tinyurl.com/664sugy
 gotta go back to watchthe movie
 BTW good to know  not being alone struggling with English as 
 a Lingua franca

Yeah, it's fascinating how unlike her most famous
characters Audrey Tautou is in interviews. Part of
it is that she really isn't completely fluent in
English, and is struggling with the language. But
she also comes across as much more serious than her
characters, which is something I've heard of her.

The way she gesticulates with her hands while talk-
ing is something I miss from France. One of my fave
moments from living in Paris was standing out on my
balcony one day, looking down at the street below,
and seeing a French woman talking animatedly on a 
mobile phone. She was holding the phone with one 
hand, gesticulating madly with the other, and almost
shouting into the phone, obviously having an argument
with her lover. At one point, she asks the guy to 
hold on, reaches into her purse and attaches an 
earbud and a remote microphone to her ear, puts the
phone into the purse that is slung over her shoulder,
and continues the conversation. But now she's free
to gesticulate with *both* hands as she yells at him. 
That makes it better, you see...even over the phone. :-)

 Nathalie Baye in a thrilling investigation of the
 long hidden truth about European cinema, a choice 
 morsel for all film lovers
 HH, Hitler à Hollywood
 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1576443/

I'll have to look into this. As for Natalie Baye, I 
think she's one of that natural wonders of the world.
Seeing Venus Beauty Institute at the Santa Fe Film
Festival years ago, I found myself completely buying
her portrayal of a 40-ish woman going through a bit 
of a mid-life crisis. But on the way home I found 
myself thinking, Now *wait* a minute...the first 
film I remember seeing her in was Truffaut's Day
For Night, and that came out back in the early 70s.
How old is she, really? When I looked it up, she
was 51, playing 40 and carrying it off. Now she's
62, and IMO could still pretty well carry off 
playing 40. The French gene pool is awesome.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Released last year in France but only recently released on DVD with
  English subtitles, this is probably the most enjoyable film I've seen
 in
  months. (And I say that even if its English title is a lie; the French
  really translates more to True Lies, but I guess that title was
  already taken by an Ahnold movie.)
 
  This film was created by Pierre Salvadori, writer of Wild Target and
  Priceless (Hors de prix) and again employs the French megastar (for
  Amelie) who made Priceless...uh...so priceless, Audrey Tautou. She
  is just so cute that one is tempted to think that all one has to do is
  point a camera at her and give her a similar name (in this movie she's
  Emelie), and you've got a hit movie on your hands.
 
  It's more complicated than that, of course. To make a hit movie, one
  also needs a great script (this movie has one) and co-stars equal to
  Tautou's stature and quirkiness. Salvadori went for the big guns,
 using
  an even bigger French star (Natalie Baye, with 89 films to her credit)
  to play Emelie's mother, and Sami Bouajila to play the love
  interest...of both.
 
  It's not quite as kinky as it sounds. Jean (Bouajila) is smitten with
  Emelie and writes her an anonymous love letter. Emelie, to
 self-obsessed
  to either figure out who it's from or care, throws the letter away.
 But
  then when she finds her mother moping around three years after a
  divorce, she tries to cheer her up by copying the love letter and
  sending it off to Mom. Mom's life perks up, but when she finds out who
  really sent it, Emelie's life gets very, very complicated. It's really
  MUCH funnier than it sounds; I watched it with a male friend and we
 both
  howled with laughter all the way through, so it's not at all the chick
  flick it may sound like. Here's a trailer, which you should watch
 before
  reading the rest of this review:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh79BDHECig
 
  Did you notice in the trailer how gorgeous Audrey Tautou is? No
 surprise
  there, of course. But did you notice how gorgeous Natalie Baye is,
  playing her mother? Here's the kicker -- Natalie Baye is old enough to
  be Tautou's grandmother. She's 62. And if her PR is accurate, she's
  stayed this beautiful for this long just as a result of having good
  French genes, without having to go the cosmetic surgery route. Truly
  astounding.
 
  Both women are tremendous actors, and their timing in this flick is
  flawless. Sami Bouajila gets to 

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[obbajeeba]

To help anyone else see the scope of these type of items (The Maharishi 
Sandals) Mark has, and the attention from people interested in these stories 
and history,then media brings the value of an item to light, because even if 
something seems trivial to some, to many others, it is historical evidence of a 
time now gone and people do pay bucks for such item/experience connections. A 
good recent example below are two links showing a car (then and now) that 
transported two Beatles on a visit to Arkansas and what is currently happening 
in the news with that car (How much would anyone bet the owner of the car will 
sell it using these stories around the car's history?):  

http://www.asuherald.com/arts-entertainment/tribute-to-the-beatles-1.2629399?pagereq=2

http://www.thetd.com/freepages/2011-09-14/news/story1.php

The Maharishi Sandals if in fact authenticated (such as pictures of the same on 
his feet and letters from those knowing), do have a value and TMO or non TMO 
should embrace Mark (who holds the Maharishi Sandals)with a little respect, 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0XAI-PFQcA   or for those looking for the humor 
side http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FPv2toi5og

Go Mark! Go!  

-The cheer team at club FFL

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 They also get publicity in the world media, mostly newspapers, I would guess. 
  I'll probably be doing interviews.  We shall see.
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:03 PM, obbajeeba wrote:
 
  If an auction house has a stake in something, they are going to contact 
  those who like to purchase things and they definitely advertise the items 
  before the auction, they have something to gain. 
  No bidders, are out of the question, I am sure. There will be bidders.
  : )
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  
   Well, we do now know what I'll settle for, though I would always try to 
   get more if it were in my hands. I'm agreeing to let the auction house 
   sell them for $70K, if they get offered that. They would keep 15%. So I 
   would get 59.5 if they sold for that. And no, Sal, my entire life in the 
   near future is not being based on these selling at all, though I am, 
   quite consciously, cutting it very close... And I did say I've already 
   turned down 10K. I won't give you proof of that, but it's not 
   fabrication. Unless something happens soon, November will tell the tale. 
   To be honest, I wouldn't be that surprised if the sandals got no bidders, 
   though I would be more surprised if they didn't...
   
   On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:03 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
   
I don't know anything beyond what Mark has shared publicly. I was 
commenting on how we really don't know anything about the potential 
buyers of Mark's sandals, or what he will settle for. I hope he makes a 
bundle. Why not?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:

 Of course there's a lot of people like that, 
 Jim~~but so far I've seen no evidence that 
 anyone even close to that league is the least
 bit interested. Have you? That's at least one
 thing I meant about dangerous delusions. It
 seems Mark's entire life in the near future is
 being based upon these selling for a significant
 amount. So far the only offers I know of are
 lurk's and yours. Or have I missed something?
 Sal
 
 2011, at 1:16 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
 
  There's a lot of people in the world to whom $70K means nothing - 
  its like spending $100 to you or me. As to the intentions of the 
  potential buyer, who knows? Maybe they just like famous shoes. :-)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ 
  wrote:
  
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:06 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
  
  I'm hoping that Ted can put my set of flip-flops 
  up for auction at the same time that he puts up 
  Maharishi's sandals, so that I might get some
  spillover traffic from wealthy foot and fraud
  fetishists. Thanks to you and obbajeeba for 
  suggesting the idea. 
  
  I wonder whatever happened to the idea of,
  if you need $$, getting a job. I think
  Mark is living in a dream-world, perhaps
  even dangerously so, if he thinks these
  decades-old relics are going to become
  his salvation.
 


   
  
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[Mark Landau]

I'm glad you like it.  That goes for both of us.  But then what comes next?  I 
won't, I must must admit, be reading all your posts.  But if I do feel I see 
something in you, did you just give me permission to post it here (not, 
necessarily, that it will happen)?  And I agree about Peter, all that you say 
here.  

On Sep 16, 2011, at 11:57 PM, maskedzebra wrote:

 Re Peter, maybe his stroke knocked some of his conditioning out the window, 
 too. This sentence caught my attention, And it seemed to go to my experience 
 of the video. Not to account for my experience; but I think the stroke broke 
 him down in some way which created a sense of physical humility. He was 
 thrown upon his knees in a manner of speaking, and I think it perhaps 
 released his best self. Peter Wallace himself might offer some insight here: 
 I got the sense that he is very alert to metaphysical nuance; in fact what 
 was most astonishing to me was the correspondence between his spiritual 
 vocabulary and the reality to which this vocabulary referred to. He was in 
 effect simply describing his experience. But that experience made itself 
 known to us (for me at least) as an objective reality.
 
 Mariana Caplan, I have to put off, since I am Eastern-phobic when it comes to 
 books. I don't want to be reminded of my mystical past; it is still too 
 dominant in my physiology. The Lee Zozowick episode put me in the mind of my 
 seminars—again, something I have come view as part of the hallucination of my 
 Unity Consciousness, even as there was extraordinary drama and humour and 
 entertainment. But there was also pain and violence, and it was driven by the 
 assumption—and inspiration—of my enlightenment.
 
 Regarding myself, I already have a feeling that your objective 
 vulnerability (the context which is structured in your nervous system) is 
 recording its impressions of me, and sooner or later it will reveal some 
 truth about me.
 
 But you will understand why I must break this off here (LW).
 
 I can feel even in this moment your consciousness upon me—and I like it.
 
 Robin 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  This gave me the grins. Thanks.
  I'm reading a few books by this wonderful woman, Mariana Caplan. She's 
  really made quite a study of it and has a great grasp and insight into the 
  whole spiritual path thing. I read Eyes Wide Open first. I heartily 
  recommend it. I'm reading The Guru Question now. In it she explicates all 
  about that, but also uses her own path as examples of what one might 
  encounter. Her description of her first encounter with her own teacher when 
  she met him in Thiruvannaamalai, an American madman named Lee Lozowick of 
  the crazy wisdom traditions whose teacher was Yogi Ramsuratkumar, is great. 
  Upon taking one look at her, he spent 40 minutes vivisecting her with 
  merciless but purely objective discernment which her ego was horrified by, 
  but her spirit perceived as pure love. Of course there was an audience 
  there, as well. First he asked her if she wanted to know what was going on 
  with her. When she said yes, he asked her if she were sure. He only started 
  in on her after her second assent. Later, a bunch of people there invited 
  her to meet with them and spent the whole time talking about how horrible 
  Lee was to her. She heard them out, but already knew Lee was her teacher.
  I wish I could do that. But it seems I have to get to at least spend a 
  little time with a person first, though there often are things I believe I 
  can objectively see right away. It took me years with M.
  Re Peter, maybe his stroke knocked some of his conditioning out the window, 
  too. But, again, my experience of him was almost 40 years ago.
  A tiny bit re the LW. But you did pretty well...:-)
  m
  
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:28 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
  
   I think I am going to return to my purported Unity Consciousness, make 
   you my skin boy, and then years later, read what you have to say about 
   me: this, so I can get a true insight into myself. Because I think you 
   might be able to tell me something—if you knew me like you get to know 
   others—that I as yet still don't know about myself. The way you 
   objectively carve someone up, it seems to me like impersonal surgery; 
   therefore true. I am already getting—at least from the past—a fuller 
   picture of Peter Wallace. Again, that picture does not undermine my 
   recent experience; but I can sense, in terms of his personal history at 
   least, there were thing to overcome. Has he overcome them? That 
   fascinates me, because his performance on this video did not suggest the 
   things that were no doubt true about him in the past.
   
   Got to cut it off here, Mark, as I mortify the longwindedness temptation. 
   Which is obviously now that it has been put into a post by *you* has to 
   point up some compensation in me for insecurity about *something*. What, 
   I am not 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[Mark Landau]

How do people find these old cartoons?  When I was little I saw one where there 
was a war between the bliss ninnies who milked positivity juice from the sun 
and the nasties who extracted black negativity ink from somewhere or other, 
maybe themselves, and they shot each other and became, alternately, bliss 
ninnies and nasties.  Needless to say, it made an impression.  I've tried to 
find that, unsuccessfully.  Can anyone help?

On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Bob Price wrote:

 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvNfPSXWZqwfeature=related
 
 
 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:49:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: 
 Merudanda/Sandals)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
  
   On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:06 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
   
I'm hoping that Ted can put my set of flip-flops 
up for auction at the same time that he puts up 
Maharishi's sandals, so that I might get some
spillover traffic from wealthy foot and fraud
fetishists. Thanks to you and obbajeeba for 
suggesting the idea. 
   
   I wonder whatever happened to the idea of,
   if you need $$, getting a job.
  
  Gee, Sal, I bet there's a whole lot of unemployed
  people in this country who never thought of such
  a brilliant solution to their financial problems.
  Just go out and get a job, nothin' to it. You
  really ought to write a letter to the editor or
  something.
  
I think
   Mark is living in a dream-world, perhaps
   even dangerously so, if he thinks these
   decades-old relics are going to become
   his salvation.
  
  Right. I mean, if they were *new* relics, they 
  might actually be worth something.
  
  (You have to forgive poor Stupid Sal for her
  pique; after all, she had predicted Mark would
  be lucky to get $1,000 for the sandals. Now
  that she's learned that the guy who runs the
  very successful memorabilia auction house
  handling the sale thinks a reserve price of
  $70,000 or more is appropriate, you just can't
  blame her for taking her embarrassment out on
  Mark.)
 
 
 ...and precisely why I would not ever challenge AuStein to a dual. 
 Quick draw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhN19EBp_b4 and a bitch slap to 
 follow!  LOL! 
 
   
 

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[obbajeeba]

The bliss ninnies and nasties?   Is it space related from this series? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dgx61Iby50

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 How do people find these old cartoons?  When I was little I saw one where 
 there was a war between the bliss ninnies who milked positivity juice from 
 the sun and the nasties who extracted black negativity ink from somewhere or 
 other, maybe themselves, and they shot each other and became, alternately, 
 bliss ninnies and nasties.  Needless to say, it made an impression.  I've 
 tried to find that, unsuccessfully.  Can anyone help?
 
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Bob Price wrote:
 
  
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvNfPSXWZqwfeature=related
  
  
  From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:49:57 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: 
  Merudanda/Sandals)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
   
On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:06 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

 I'm hoping that Ted can put my set of flip-flops 
 up for auction at the same time that he puts up 
 Maharishi's sandals, so that I might get some
 spillover traffic from wealthy foot and fraud
 fetishists. Thanks to you and obbajeeba for 
 suggesting the idea. 

I wonder whatever happened to the idea of,
if you need $$, getting a job.
   
   Gee, Sal, I bet there's a whole lot of unemployed
   people in this country who never thought of such
   a brilliant solution to their financial problems.
   Just go out and get a job, nothin' to it. You
   really ought to write a letter to the editor or
   something.
   
 I think
Mark is living in a dream-world, perhaps
even dangerously so, if he thinks these
decades-old relics are going to become
his salvation.
   
   Right. I mean, if they were *new* relics, they 
   might actually be worth something.
   
   (You have to forgive poor Stupid Sal for her
   pique; after all, she had predicted Mark would
   be lucky to get $1,000 for the sandals. Now
   that she's learned that the guy who runs the
   very successful memorabilia auction house
   handling the sale thinks a reserve price of
   $70,000 or more is appropriate, you just can't
   blame her for taking her embarrassment out on
   Mark.)
  
  
  ...and precisely why I would not ever challenge AuStein to a dual. 
  Quick draw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhN19EBp_b4 and a bitch slap to 
  follow!  LOL! 
  

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[Mark Landau]

Of course, isn't it about internalizing everything?  Isn't everything already 
internalized and we just resist that?

On Sep 17, 2011, at 3:41 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  Thank you, this is interesting, see below.
  
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:42 PM, RoryGoff wrote:
  
   * * No, Mark, I haven't returned to the Dome since 2006. It felt and 
   looked as if M wanted me in there for that time -- that was really why I 
   went, as I had no desire from my side to return -- and it was an 
   incredible gift that healed the very last of my judgments and the 
   unfinished business between us, bursting my heart open again and again as 
   he upheld my entire life and being, even and especially the heretical 
   parts, and showed me what everything looked like from his side in 
   incredible unconditional Love. Not that I had even known I still desired 
   such! But that was it -- I see it now as his exceedingly generous 
   farewell gift to me, and I remain blown away, at once deeply humbled and 
   exalted by it all to this day.
   
  Hmm, while he was still here. Nice. Can't say that he so gifted me, nor 
  that I perceived him as always behaving from incredible unconditional Love. 
 
 How do you reconcile this with the Hitler images?
 
 It's obviously none of my business to have an opinion about all this. But 
 since it was I who introduced the possebility for you to go to MUM in the 
 first place I'd like to say this: Unless you internalize the sentence you 
 just wrote above you have nothing to do in the Domes or at MUM. 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[RoryGoff]

* * Hey, Mark! Many thanks; new responses interleaved (* * *) below...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 Thank you, this is interesting, see below.
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:42 PM, RoryGoff wrote:
 
No, Mark, I haven't returned to the Dome since 2006. It felt and looked as if M 
wanted me in there for that time -- that was really why I went, as I had no 
desire from my side to return -- and it was an incredible gift that healed the 
very last of my judgments and the unfinished business between us, bursting my 
heart open again and again as he upheld my entire life and being, even and 
especially the heretical parts, and showed me what everything looked like 
from his side in incredible unconditional Love. Not that I had even known I 
still desired such! But that was it -- I see it now as his exceedingly generous 
farewell gift to me, and I remain blown away, at once deeply humbled and 
exalted by it all to this day.

Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 Hmm, while he was still here.  Nice.  Can't say that he so gifted me, nor 
 that I perceived him as always behaving from incredible unconditional Love.  

* * * Yes, shockingly nice. From my POV it was entirely unexpected and wholly 
unmerited, given my history, although in retrospect I suppose it was nature's 
response to all the Work or inner housecleaning I had done over the years. A 
Build it and We will come kind of thing, maybe. Is this Heaven? No; it's a 
cornfield in Iowa. Darshan or Grace or Love looks much like an electrical 
current, automatically flowing when there is receptivity, and not as obviously 
when there is resistance. But I am finding that the resistance is always only 
my own, stemming from a failure on my part to Love wholly whatever aspect of 
wholeness Love is currently showing me. Our inner stories and judgments can 
sometimes block our perception and appreciation of it.

Mark Landau m@... wrote:
How do you reconcile this with the Hitler images?

* * * I reconciled it by unconditionally Loving all of it as myself; once done, 
my most nightmarish demon out there becomes my loving devata/devotee in 
here, my own beautiful child, my self. I am finding Love to be the only 
universal currency and universal solvent.

RoryGoff wrote:
  I cannot really speak for you, of course, Mark, but yes, I have been 
  finding it most healthy and simple to take responsiblity for my entire 
  world and all the stories I spin therein, especially the parts that disturb 
  me the most, as therein lies the greatest opportunity for growth in Love 
  and self-knowledge, as Love, like Brahman, consumes everything, swallows 
  every one of us whole.

Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 Yes, I think if we can take responsibility for everything we perceive in all 
 that is, we're doing ourselves and all that is the most justice, not that I 
 can always do that.

* * God knows, it is not always easy nor immediate. Sometimes it has taken me 
years to understand and fulfill the specific nagging needs of some of my 
demon/devatas :-)

RoryGoff wrote:
  I am not sure about any mandatoriness of suit and dome-going; it probably 
  varies from job to job but I have never inquired. I will if you really wish 
  me to, but I am not at present particularly involved with that arena. And 
  yes, we would love to welcome you here -- my good and great friend Tom T. 
  especially has inquired about you repeatedly, and would love to hear from 
  you sometime.

Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 No, of course not.  I wouldn't ask you to do that.  If I ever come to that 
 bridge, which I doubt, I'll find out soon enough.  

* * True, you will! 

Mark Landau m@... wrote:
Maybe I'll get in touch with Tom or try that again.

* * We would love that, Mark, if you felt like so doing.
 
  *L*L*L* always :-)
  
 Thanks, U2, m

* * Thanks!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[curtisdeltablues]

As Robin notes, these kinds of stories do make teachers of TM go to that tender 
level of feeling where many of us ex or not, would have loved to have hung out 
with the pre-World Government Maharishi in Rishikesh for such an extended 
period of time.  I partied out with Maharishi before he became Donald Trump 
tales rock. And if his experience with Maharishi with its Hollywood worthy 
miraculous meeting was the only tale in the interview, I probably would have 
just gotten my vicarious buzz on about his chill'n with the guy who knew all 
the answers, my ex-guru daddy supreme, Maharishi.  

But he played the miraculous coincidence card one too many times and my too 
good to be true alarm went off.  Oh ye of the tender level of feeling who 
found this string of amazing stories to nourish your finest level of your 
heart, please forgive me, because it was not a conscious mind thing.  It was 
little buoy that came up from deep down in my mind where the fish are all 
luminous and some don't even have eyes anymore.  They don't need them down 
there even though they do possess vestigial nonfunctional eyes.  (what a weird 
thing to include in an intelligent design huh?  Non eyes, that don't see...but 
used to a long time ago.) 

I am my own buzz buster.  I freak'n love stories like the ones Peter told.  I 
adore them.  

But my Goddamn unconscious tyrant sent me a memo.  One that I can't refuse, 
despite the price I pay in euphoria deflation over such a string of wonderful 
tales of encounters with special, wonderful people.

So here it is.  Too many perfect coincidences in a row with the same message as 
the subtext.  And the message is that this person, Peter, is the most 
wonderfully, specially, coincidentally acknowledged person by each and every  
special person in his stories without exception.  None of them were met the way 
I met Maharishi, each one has a story, worthy of standing alone in its magical 
perfection.  Why did he have to put them all together?  Could he have included 
even one story that sounded like mine?  One story that didn't have the blessed 
perfection of a perfectly told story?   Could he have shown a bit of literary 
discipline in what he was serving us?

OK.  If this is how it all really went down, then he is the single most 
magically blessed person I have ever heard about, with the ultimate I hung out 
with Maharishi before he became Donald Trump tales. 

But if you spoke with Maharishi for 6 months and the most interesting thing you 
have to share is how special you were in how you were acknowledged by him...no 
details worthy of a person sitting day after day with the guy who was supposed 
to have figured it all out, the guy who had the answers about the reality of 
life, the best you can serve up to us is a cool coincidence story about how you 
knew better than anyone else the Maharishi was gunna show up...that is the most 
important words out of your mouth...a story not about his insights into reality 
but how special you were in how you met him...

and all of this served up in a non-affect monotone serving up exactly zero of 
the qualities that might encourage me to see how reasonable it is that this is 
the guy who may be the luckiest guy in the world.  

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:05 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
 
  RESPONSE: These remarks don't represent the experiential context of TM. Are 
  you a meditator? a former TM teacher? Not that (if you are not a TMer) this 
  invalidates your point of view—but I feel as if I am reading about the 
  experience and perspective of someone who did not submit himself to the 
  Puja—nor to the transcendent movement within his mind, of TM itself. As far 
  as TM is concerned, I intuit you are tone-deaf [when it comes to TM]. But 
  standing apart from this, of course you are legitimately entitled to your 
  evaluation of the merits of my impression of Peter Wallace.
 
 I'm as experienced as just about anyone here. So, yes, I'm quite familiar 
 with the puja, TM, etc.
 
  
  If you have never gone down on your knees in front of the portrait of Guru 
  Dev, your comments make much more sense to me. Just as Rick Archer's guests 
  on BatGap (unless, like Phil Goldberg they are connected to TM and 
  Maharishi) no nothing of what appears to be the unique context of spiritual 
  reality one comes to know (and it stays with one) through TM—and most 
  emphatically through initiating people into this practice.
  
  All those, especially initiators, on this forum share a common metaphysical 
  denominator: I think you would have to have join the club to really 
  appreciate Peter Wallace.
  
  But perhaps I am myself just failing to get the biological and 
  psychological evidence of your association with TM. TM and MMY: these are 
  realities which make themselves familiar to us in the deepest way; at least 
  this is what I have found since I began to meditate. And then initiating 
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[whynotnow7]

He seemed like a pretty normal guy just talking about his past. What is the big 
deal? Seems like you are always looking for something you invariably find 
Curtis. Why not give the guy, and yourself a big break?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 As Robin notes, these kinds of stories do make teachers of TM go to that 
 tender level of feeling where many of us ex or not, would have loved to have 
 hung out with the pre-World Government Maharishi in Rishikesh for such an 
 extended period of time.  I partied out with Maharishi before he became 
 Donald Trump tales rock. And if his experience with Maharishi with its 
 Hollywood worthy miraculous meeting was the only tale in the interview, I 
 probably would have just gotten my vicarious buzz on about his chill'n with 
 the guy who knew all the answers, my ex-guru daddy supreme, Maharishi.  
 
 But he played the miraculous coincidence card one too many times and my too 
 good to be true alarm went off.  Oh ye of the tender level of feeling who 
 found this string of amazing stories to nourish your finest level of your 
 heart, please forgive me, because it was not a conscious mind thing.  It was 
 little buoy that came up from deep down in my mind where the fish are all 
 luminous and some don't even have eyes anymore.  They don't need them down 
 there even though they do possess vestigial nonfunctional eyes.  (what a 
 weird thing to include in an intelligent design huh?  Non eyes, that don't 
 see...but used to a long time ago.) 
 
 I am my own buzz buster.  I freak'n love stories like the ones Peter told.  I 
 adore them.  
 
 But my Goddamn unconscious tyrant sent me a memo.  One that I can't refuse, 
 despite the price I pay in euphoria deflation over such a string of wonderful 
 tales of encounters with special, wonderful people.
 
 So here it is.  Too many perfect coincidences in a row with the same message 
 as the subtext.  And the message is that this person, Peter, is the most 
 wonderfully, specially, coincidentally acknowledged person by each and every  
 special person in his stories without exception.  None of them were met the 
 way I met Maharishi, each one has a story, worthy of standing alone in its 
 magical perfection.  Why did he have to put them all together?  Could he have 
 included even one story that sounded like mine?  One story that didn't have 
 the blessed perfection of a perfectly told story?   Could he have shown a bit 
 of literary discipline in what he was serving us?
 
 OK.  If this is how it all really went down, then he is the single most 
 magically blessed person I have ever heard about, with the ultimate I hung 
 out with Maharishi before he became Donald Trump tales. 
 
 But if you spoke with Maharishi for 6 months and the most interesting thing 
 you have to share is how special you were in how you were acknowledged by 
 him...no details worthy of a person sitting day after day with the guy who 
 was supposed to have figured it all out, the guy who had the answers about 
 the reality of life, the best you can serve up to us is a cool coincidence 
 story about how you knew better than anyone else the Maharishi was gunna show 
 up...that is the most important words out of your mouth...a story not about 
 his insights into reality but how special you were in how you met him...
 
 and all of this served up in a non-affect monotone serving up exactly zero of 
 the qualities that might encourage me to see how reasonable it is that this 
 is the guy who may be the luckiest guy in the world.  
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:05 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
  
   RESPONSE: These remarks don't represent the experiential context of TM. 
   Are you a meditator? a former TM teacher? Not that (if you are not a 
   TMer) this invalidates your point of view—but I feel as if I am reading 
   about the experience and perspective of someone who did not submit 
   himself to the Puja—nor to the transcendent movement within his mind, of 
   TM itself. As far as TM is concerned, I intuit you are tone-deaf [when it 
   comes to TM]. But standing apart from this, of course you are 
   legitimately entitled to your evaluation of the merits of my impression 
   of Peter Wallace.
  
  I'm as experienced as just about anyone here. So, yes, I'm quite familiar 
  with the puja, TM, etc.
  
   
   If you have never gone down on your knees in front of the portrait of 
   Guru Dev, your comments make much more sense to me. Just as Rick Archer's 
   guests on BatGap (unless, like Phil Goldberg they are connected to TM and 
   Maharishi) no nothing of what appears to be the unique context of 
   spiritual reality one comes to know (and it stays with one) through 
   TM—and most emphatically through initiating people into this practice.
   
   All those, especially initiators, on this forum share a common 
   metaphysical denominator: I 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[Mark Landau]

No, but thanks.  It was pretty purely as I described.

On Sep 17, 2011, at 8:38 AM, obbajeeba wrote:

 The bliss ninnies and nasties? Is it space related from this series? 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dgx61Iby50
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  How do people find these old cartoons? When I was little I saw one where 
  there was a war between the bliss ninnies who milked positivity juice from 
  the sun and the nasties who extracted black negativity ink from somewhere 
  or other, maybe themselves, and they shot each other and became, 
  alternately, bliss ninnies and nasties. Needless to say, it made an 
  impression. I've tried to find that, unsuccessfully. Can anyone help?
  
  On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Bob Price wrote:
  
   
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvNfPSXWZqwfeature=related
   
   
   From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:49:57 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: 
   Merudanda/Sandals)
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:

 On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:06 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 
  I'm hoping that Ted can put my set of flip-flops 
  up for auction at the same time that he puts up 
  Maharishi's sandals, so that I might get some
  spillover traffic from wealthy foot and fraud
  fetishists. Thanks to you and obbajeeba for 
  suggesting the idea. 
 
 I wonder whatever happened to the idea of,
 if you need $$, getting a job.

Gee, Sal, I bet there's a whole lot of unemployed
people in this country who never thought of such
a brilliant solution to their financial problems.
Just go out and get a job, nothin' to it. You
really ought to write a letter to the editor or
something.

I think
 Mark is living in a dream-world, perhaps
 even dangerously so, if he thinks these
 decades-old relics are going to become
 his salvation.

Right. I mean, if they were *new* relics, they 
might actually be worth something.

(You have to forgive poor Stupid Sal for her
pique; after all, she had predicted Mark would
be lucky to get $1,000 for the sandals. Now
that she's learned that the guy who runs the
very successful memorabilia auction house
handling the sale thinks a reserve price of
$70,000 or more is appropriate, you just can't
blame her for taking her embarrassment out on
Mark.)
   
   
   ...and precisely why I would not ever challenge AuStein to a dual. 
   Quick draw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhN19EBp_b4 and a bitch slap to 
   follow! LOL! 
   
   
  
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[curtisdeltablues]

Called it like I saw it.  No big break needed.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 He seemed like a pretty normal guy just talking about his past. What is the 
 big deal? Seems like you are always looking for something you invariably find 
 Curtis. Why not give the guy, and yourself a big break?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  As Robin notes, these kinds of stories do make teachers of TM go to that 
  tender level of feeling where many of us ex or not, would have loved to 
  have hung out with the pre-World Government Maharishi in Rishikesh for such 
  an extended period of time.  I partied out with Maharishi before he became 
  Donald Trump tales rock. And if his experience with Maharishi with its 
  Hollywood worthy miraculous meeting was the only tale in the interview, I 
  probably would have just gotten my vicarious buzz on about his chill'n with 
  the guy who knew all the answers, my ex-guru daddy supreme, Maharishi.  
  
  But he played the miraculous coincidence card one too many times and my 
  too good to be true alarm went off.  Oh ye of the tender level of feeling 
  who found this string of amazing stories to nourish your finest level of 
  your heart, please forgive me, because it was not a conscious mind thing.  
  It was little buoy that came up from deep down in my mind where the fish 
  are all luminous and some don't even have eyes anymore.  They don't need 
  them down there even though they do possess vestigial nonfunctional eyes.  
  (what a weird thing to include in an intelligent design huh?  Non eyes, 
  that don't see...but used to a long time ago.) 
  
  I am my own buzz buster.  I freak'n love stories like the ones Peter told.  
  I adore them.  
  
  But my Goddamn unconscious tyrant sent me a memo.  One that I can't refuse, 
  despite the price I pay in euphoria deflation over such a string of 
  wonderful tales of encounters with special, wonderful people.
  
  So here it is.  Too many perfect coincidences in a row with the same 
  message as the subtext.  And the message is that this person, Peter, is the 
  most wonderfully, specially, coincidentally acknowledged person by each and 
  every  special person in his stories without exception.  None of them were 
  met the way I met Maharishi, each one has a story, worthy of standing alone 
  in its magical perfection.  Why did he have to put them all together?  
  Could he have included even one story that sounded like mine?  One story 
  that didn't have the blessed perfection of a perfectly told story?   Could 
  he have shown a bit of literary discipline in what he was serving us?
  
  OK.  If this is how it all really went down, then he is the single most 
  magically blessed person I have ever heard about, with the ultimate I hung 
  out with Maharishi before he became Donald Trump tales. 
  
  But if you spoke with Maharishi for 6 months and the most interesting thing 
  you have to share is how special you were in how you were acknowledged by 
  him...no details worthy of a person sitting day after day with the guy who 
  was supposed to have figured it all out, the guy who had the answers about 
  the reality of life, the best you can serve up to us is a cool coincidence 
  story about how you knew better than anyone else the Maharishi was gunna 
  show up...that is the most important words out of your mouth...a story not 
  about his insights into reality but how special you were in how you met 
  him...
  
  and all of this served up in a non-affect monotone serving up exactly zero 
  of the qualities that might encourage me to see how reasonable it is that 
  this is the guy who may be the luckiest guy in the world.  
  
   
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   
   On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:05 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
   
RESPONSE: These remarks don't represent the experiential context of TM. 
Are you a meditator? a former TM teacher? Not that (if you are not a 
TMer) this invalidates your point of view—but I feel as if I am reading 
about the experience and perspective of someone who did not submit 
himself to the Puja—nor to the transcendent movement within his mind, 
of TM itself. As far as TM is concerned, I intuit you are tone-deaf 
[when it comes to TM]. But standing apart from this, of course you are 
legitimately entitled to your evaluation of the merits of my impression 
of Peter Wallace.
   
   I'm as experienced as just about anyone here. So, yes, I'm quite familiar 
   with the puja, TM, etc.
   

If you have never gone down on your knees in front of the portrait of 
Guru Dev, your comments make much more sense to me. Just as Rick 
Archer's guests on BatGap (unless, like Phil Goldberg they are 
connected to TM and Maharishi) no nothing of what appears to be the 
unique context of spiritual reality one comes to know (and 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Review: Beautiful Lies (De vrais mensonges)

[whynotnow7]

Looks good! Now, how to find it as a rental...:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Released last year in France but only recently released on DVD with
 English subtitles, this is probably the most enjoyable film I've seen in
 months. (And I say that even if its English title is a lie; the French
 really translates more to True Lies, but I guess that title was
 already taken by an Ahnold movie.)
 
 This film was created by Pierre Salvadori, writer of Wild Target and
 Priceless (Hors de prix) and again employs the French megastar (for
 Amelie) who made Priceless...uh...so priceless, Audrey Tautou. She
 is just so cute that one is tempted to think that all one has to do is
 point a camera at her and give her a similar name (in this movie she's
 Emelie), and you've got a hit movie on your hands.
 
 It's more complicated than that, of course. To make a hit movie, one
 also needs a great script (this movie has one) and co-stars equal to
 Tautou's stature and quirkiness. Salvadori went for the big guns, using
 an even bigger French star (Natalie Baye, with 89 films to her credit)
 to play Emelie's mother, and Sami Bouajila to play the love
 interest...of both.
 
 It's not quite as kinky as it sounds. Jean (Bouajila) is smitten with
 Emelie and writes her an anonymous love letter. Emelie, to self-obsessed
 to either figure out who it's from or care, throws the letter away. But
 then when she finds her mother moping around three years after a
 divorce, she tries to cheer her up by copying the love letter and
 sending it off to Mom. Mom's life perks up, but when she finds out who
 really sent it, Emelie's life gets very, very complicated. It's really
 MUCH funnier than it sounds; I watched it with a male friend and we both
 howled with laughter all the way through, so it's not at all the chick
 flick it may sound like. Here's a trailer, which you should watch before
 reading the rest of this review:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh79BDHECig
 
 Did you notice in the trailer how gorgeous Audrey Tautou is? No surprise
 there, of course. But did you notice how gorgeous Natalie Baye is,
 playing her mother? Here's the kicker -- Natalie Baye is old enough to
 be Tautou's grandmother. She's 62. And if her PR is accurate, she's
 stayed this beautiful for this long just as a result of having good
 French genes, without having to go the cosmetic surgery route. Truly
 astounding.
 
 Both women are tremendous actors, and their timing in this flick is
 flawless. Sami Bouajila gets to play mainly the poor befuddled lovesick
 guy who doesn't quite know what's happening, but his sense of timing
 makes that hilarious as well. One aspect of this film -- mainly set in a
 beauty salon owned by Emelie at which Jean works as a handyman and Maddy
 (Baye) visits as a customer -- is that for the French it hearkens back
 to another delightful and successful comedy, Venus Beauty Institute.
 In that film, Natalie Baye played the owner of a salon, and a young,
 then unknown Audrey Tautou played one of her employees.
 
 If I gave out stars in these silly mini-reviews I write for FFL, this
 movie would get my highest rating. It's truly delightful, and IMO will
 cheer up even the grumpiest of curmudgeons, on the program of off.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[Mark Landau]

Perhaps we all do things differently (though similarly).  I did most of mine in 
the years after I left, '76-'78.  Then pretty much stopped till I decided to 
sell the sandals feeling I had done most of it.  Perhaps now there's just a 
little more to do, triggered by everything that's come up here and since.  
Also, he was a much larger part of my life than most.  Does anyone's death 
expunge them from the hearts and lives of others?  Or is this irony directed at 
others or a humorous riff going over my head or all of the above.  I'm the 
first to admit I don't always get it here.

On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:56 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:

 It would be a miracle beyond belief if those here who continue to criticize 
 the Movement and Maharishi for decades would actually figure out where all of 
 that displaced anger, criticism, and frustration comes from. It sure ain't 
 the thing they've been away from for decades. 
 
 These long ranting posts where venom and dislike is heaped on Maharishi as if 
 his words and actions occurred yesterday, are much more symptomatic of the 
 writer's mentality than anything Maharishi did. A victim's mentality - 
 arrogance displaced. Pronouncing judgment and focusing all their misery and 
 lost dreams on a man who no longer exists and has no influence on them any 
 longer. Like the person who has a difficult day at work and comes home to 
 berate their partner or kick the dog. How ignorant of one's own nature can a 
 person be to pour out their disdain for a man who is dead, again and again? 
 Pretty fucked up in my estimation.:-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:
 
  * * No, Mark, I haven't returned to the Dome since 2006. It felt and looked 
  as if M wanted me in there for that time -- that was really why I went, as 
  I had no desire from my side to return -- and it was an incredible gift 
  that healed the very last of my judgments and the unfinished business 
  between us, bursting my heart open again and again as he upheld my entire 
  life and being, even and especially the heretical parts, and showed me 
  what everything looked like from his side in incredible unconditional Love. 
  Not that I had even known I still desired such! But that was it -- I see it 
  now as his exceedingly generous farewell gift to me, and I remain blown 
  away, at once deeply humbled and exalted by it all to this day.
  
  I cannot really speak for you, of course, Mark, but yes, I have been 
  finding it most healthy and simple to take responsiblity for my entire 
  world and all the stories I spin therein, especially the parts that disturb 
  me the most, as therein lies the greatest opportunity for growth in Love 
  and self-knowledge, as Love, like Brahman, consumes everything, swallows 
  every one of us whole.
  
  I am not sure about any mandatoriness of suit and dome-going; it probably 
  varies from job to job but I have never inquired. I will if you really wish 
  me to, but I am not at present particularly involved with that arena. And 
  yes, we would love to welcome you here -- my good and great friend Tom T. 
  especially has inquired about you repeatedly, and would love to hear from 
  you sometime.
  
  *L*L*L* always :-)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  
   Have you been to the dome since those 2 weeks in 2006? Would I have to 
   take responsibility for M having the kind of sex with Jennifer that made 
   her run away screaming and refusing to come back (not that I haven't done 
   that selfsame thing in a different kind of way so, in that way, I do take 
   responsibility for it)? If I worked at MUM, would going to the dome twice 
   a day and wearing a suit and tie be mandatory? I would probably feel 
   better about working for MUM than the nuclear man, but I'm not sure it 
   would be the best move for me. But, like I said, I don't rule anything 
   out.
   But being warm-heartedly welcomed by you and your closest friends would 
   be one of the reasons I would come there!
   LLL back at ya,
   m
   
   On Sep 16, 2011, at 8:58 PM, RoryGoff wrote:
   
* * You never know, Mark! I was re-admitted to the Dome in 2006 after 
24 years' absence, despite all I had done, said, and written over the 
years, and the rap-sheet they clearly still had on file. (Admittedly, 
in the meantime I had taken full responsibility for and healed all of 
those MMY- and TMO-related wounds and dramas I had perceived as coming 
from out there.) 

And what a homecoming it was -- overwhelmingly fulfilling beyond my 
wildest imagination and beyond my ability to express, during the two 
weeks I was called to be in the Dome. Granted, nowhere near as intimate 
a relationship as the one you contemplate. But I do guarantee you this 
-- if you come to Fairfield you will find a warm-hearted welcome, at 
the very least from me and my closest friends here! :-)

*L*L*L*

--- 

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[RoryGoff]

* * * Ha! Yes. My favorite model of the body of the universe (and every 
I-particle in it) is a torus, like a magnetic field, with the insucking 
black-hole end as mass (Vishnu, Love, centrifugal Sat-sattva), the outflowing 
white-hole end as energy (Shiva, Laughter, centripetal Ananda-tamas), and the 
central singularity-point as consciousness (Brahma, Light, rotary Chit-rajas), 
the light at the door, as it were. Kind of funny that Einstein wrote it E = M 
C-squared, with Light-squared here being equivalent to Consciousness aware of 
itSelf. Wonder why he used C for Light (aka Consciousness?) :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 And let's not underestimate Eastern woo.  Western science only recently 
 discovered that mass equals energy, a lot of energy.  Eastern science has 
 been exploring and utilizing energy for millennia, at least in terms of it's 
 relationship to life, consciousness, the heart and spirit and has developed 
 awesome technologies in this regard.  And isn't it that mass equals energy 
 equals consciousness, each being more fundamental than the last?  There's a 
 lot more to Eastern woo than just woo.  If we want wholeness, being all that 
 we can be, all that we are, don't we have to incorporate it all?  But maybe 
 I'm covering ancient territory here.
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
 
  Exactly. Eastern woo aside, those sandals are still an article of clothing 
  worn by someone who was undeniably famous. The only way it would be a 
  swindle is if the sandals weren't actually MMY's sandals.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  
   But here I draw the line. Sal, this is simply beyond your comprehension.
   I can guarantee you that, even now, there are thousands of people, 
   really, tens of thousands who would never feel swindled to have these 
   come into their possession and would be transported to heaven, at least 
   temporarily, while holding them precious and themselves blessed for the 
   remainder of their lives. Of course you would hold them delusional, but 
   they would hold you hopelessly ignorant. It's an Indian (Eastern) thing.  
   The Western mentality just can't grok this.
   And hey, this auction house gets six figures for John Lennon's jacket, so 
   why not close to that for M's sandals?
   
   On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
   
On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:03 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:

 I don't know anything beyond what Mark has shared publicly. I was 
 commenting on how we really don't know anything about the potential 
 buyers of Mark's sandals, or what he will settle for. I hope he makes 
 a bundle. Why not?

So you hope someone's going to get swindled?
Sal 

   
  
  
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[whynotnow7]

Did you know this guy Peter before? Just curious, because he seems normal 
enough. Perhaps it was the propensity of all of those governors to toot their 
horns in the political environment around Maharishi that has (overly) 
sensitized you for any hint of this behavior when you watch something like 
this. I don't know. 

As for the TM teacher next to him, he almost seemed like a minder from a 
totalitarian regime, placed next to Peter to ensure he continued to hew to the 
party line. The other guy's facial expressions were disconcerting and amusing 
at the same time, as if he always wanted to be reflecting the deep truth of 
what Peter was saying, intellectually. At one point, after the camera pulled 
back and Mr. TM Teacher insinuated himself into the frame, I had to watch it 
with my hand covering his face, as his agitations were seriously distracting.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 Called it like I saw it.  No big break needed.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  He seemed like a pretty normal guy just talking about his past. What is the 
  big deal? Seems like you are always looking for something you invariably 
  find Curtis. Why not give the guy, and yourself a big break?
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   As Robin notes, these kinds of stories do make teachers of TM go to that 
   tender level of feeling where many of us ex or not, would have loved to 
   have hung out with the pre-World Government Maharishi in Rishikesh for 
   such an extended period of time.  I partied out with Maharishi before he 
   became Donald Trump tales rock. And if his experience with Maharishi 
   with its Hollywood worthy miraculous meeting was the only tale in the 
   interview, I probably would have just gotten my vicarious buzz on about 
   his chill'n with the guy who knew all the answers, my ex-guru daddy 
   supreme, Maharishi.  
   
   But he played the miraculous coincidence card one too many times and my 
   too good to be true alarm went off.  Oh ye of the tender level of 
   feeling who found this string of amazing stories to nourish your finest 
   level of your heart, please forgive me, because it was not a conscious 
   mind thing.  It was little buoy that came up from deep down in my mind 
   where the fish are all luminous and some don't even have eyes anymore.  
   They don't need them down there even though they do possess vestigial 
   nonfunctional eyes.  (what a weird thing to include in an intelligent 
   design huh?  Non eyes, that don't see...but used to a long time ago.) 
   
   I am my own buzz buster.  I freak'n love stories like the ones Peter 
   told.  I adore them.  
   
   But my Goddamn unconscious tyrant sent me a memo.  One that I can't 
   refuse, despite the price I pay in euphoria deflation over such a string 
   of wonderful tales of encounters with special, wonderful people.
   
   So here it is.  Too many perfect coincidences in a row with the same 
   message as the subtext.  And the message is that this person, Peter, is 
   the most wonderfully, specially, coincidentally acknowledged person by 
   each and every  special person in his stories without exception.  None of 
   them were met the way I met Maharishi, each one has a story, worthy of 
   standing alone in its magical perfection.  Why did he have to put them 
   all together?  Could he have included even one story that sounded like 
   mine?  One story that didn't have the blessed perfection of a perfectly 
   told story?   Could he have shown a bit of literary discipline in what he 
   was serving us?
   
   OK.  If this is how it all really went down, then he is the single most 
   magically blessed person I have ever heard about, with the ultimate I 
   hung out with Maharishi before he became Donald Trump tales. 
   
   But if you spoke with Maharishi for 6 months and the most interesting 
   thing you have to share is how special you were in how you were 
   acknowledged by him...no details worthy of a person sitting day after day 
   with the guy who was supposed to have figured it all out, the guy who had 
   the answers about the reality of life, the best you can serve up to us is 
   a cool coincidence story about how you knew better than anyone else the 
   Maharishi was gunna show up...that is the most important words out of 
   your mouth...a story not about his insights into reality but how special 
   you were in how you met him...
   
   and all of this served up in a non-affect monotone serving up exactly 
   zero of the qualities that might encourage me to see how reasonable it is 
   that this is the guy who may be the luckiest guy in the world.  
   

   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
   

On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:05 PM, maskedzebra wrote:

 RESPONSE: These remarks don't represent the experiential 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[Mark Landau]

Thank you, Obbajeeba, this gave me the grins (and more), too.  But be careful, 
you may be the cheerleader of a rather small team, though I do totally 
appreciate all of you that have expressed your support.  Come to think of it, 
maybe not so small.  I haven't been counting, but maybe even the high teens or 
twenty, like counting dollars for sandals...

On Sep 17, 2011, at 8:16 AM, obbajeeba wrote:

 
 
 To help anyone else see the scope of these type of items (The Maharishi 
 Sandals) Mark has, and the attention from people interested in these stories 
 and history,then media brings the value of an item to light, because even if 
 something seems trivial to some, to many others, it is historical evidence of 
 a time now gone and people do pay bucks for such item/experience connections. 
 A good recent example below are two links showing a car (then and now) that 
 transported two Beatles on a visit to Arkansas and what is currently 
 happening in the news with that car (How much would anyone bet the owner of 
 the car will sell it using these stories around the car's history?): 
 
 http://www.asuherald.com/arts-entertainment/tribute-to-the-beatles-1.2629399?pagereq=2
 
 http://www.thetd.com/freepages/2011-09-14/news/story1.php
 
 The Maharishi Sandals if in fact authenticated (such as pictures of the same 
 on his feet and letters from those knowing), do have a value and TMO or non 
 TMO should embrace Mark (who holds the Maharishi Sandals)with a little 
 respect, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0XAI-PFQcA or for those looking for 
 the humor side http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FPv2toi5og
 
 Go Mark! Go! 
 
 -The cheer team at club FFL
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  They also get publicity in the world media, mostly newspapers, I would 
  guess. I'll probably be doing interviews. We shall see.
  
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:03 PM, obbajeeba wrote:
  
   If an auction house has a stake in something, they are going to contact 
   those who like to purchase things and they definitely advertise the items 
   before the auction, they have something to gain. 
   No bidders, are out of the question, I am sure. There will be bidders.
   : )
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
   
Well, we do now know what I'll settle for, though I would always try to 
get more if it were in my hands. I'm agreeing to let the auction house 
sell them for $70K, if they get offered that. They would keep 15%. So I 
would get 59.5 if they sold for that. And no, Sal, my entire life in 
the near future is not being based on these selling at all, though I 
am, quite consciously, cutting it very close... And I did say I've 
already turned down 10K. I won't give you proof of that, but it's not 
fabrication. Unless something happens soon, November will tell the 
tale. To be honest, I wouldn't be that surprised if the sandals got no 
bidders, though I would be more surprised if they didn't...

On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:03 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:

 I don't know anything beyond what Mark has shared publicly. I was 
 commenting on how we really don't know anything about the potential 
 buyers of Mark's sandals, or what he will settle for. I hope he makes 
 a bundle. Why not?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ 
 wrote:
 
  Of course there's a lot of people like that, 
  Jim~~but so far I've seen no evidence that 
  anyone even close to that league is the least
  bit interested. Have you? That's at least one
  thing I meant about dangerous delusions. It
  seems Mark's entire life in the near future is
  being based upon these selling for a significant
  amount. So far the only offers I know of are
  lurk's and yours. Or have I missed something?
  Sal
  
  2011, at 1:16 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
  
   There's a lot of people in the world to whom $70K means nothing - 
   its like spending $100 to you or me. As to the intentions of the 
   potential buyer, who knows? Maybe they just like famous shoes. :-)
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ 
   wrote:
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
   salsunshine@ wrote:
   
   On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:06 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
   
   I'm hoping that Ted can put my set of flip-flops 
   up for auction at the same time that he puts up 
   Maharishi's sandals, so that I might get some
   spillover traffic from wealthy foot and fraud
   fetishists. Thanks to you and obbajeeba for 
   suggesting the idea. 
   
   I wonder whatever happened to the idea of,
   if you need $$, getting a job. I think
   Mark is living in a dream-world, perhaps
   even dangerously so, if he thinks these
   decades-old relics are going to become
   his salvation.

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[whynotnow7]

Based on your description, I am picturing God farting backwards.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 * * * Ha! Yes. My favorite model of the body of the universe (and every 
 I-particle in it) is a torus, like a magnetic field, with the insucking 
 black-hole end as mass (Vishnu, Love, centrifugal Sat-sattva), the outflowing 
 white-hole end as energy (Shiva, Laughter, centripetal Ananda-tamas), and the 
 central singularity-point as consciousness (Brahma, Light, rotary 
 Chit-rajas), the light at the door, as it were. Kind of funny that Einstein 
 wrote it E = M C-squared, with Light-squared here being equivalent to 
 Consciousness aware of itSelf. Wonder why he used C for Light (aka 
 Consciousness?) :-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  And let's not underestimate Eastern woo.  Western science only recently 
  discovered that mass equals energy, a lot of energy.  Eastern science has 
  been exploring and utilizing energy for millennia, at least in terms of 
  it's relationship to life, consciousness, the heart and spirit and has 
  developed awesome technologies in this regard.  And isn't it that mass 
  equals energy equals consciousness, each being more fundamental than the 
  last?  There's a lot more to Eastern woo than just woo.  If we want 
  wholeness, being all that we can be, all that we are, don't we have to 
  incorporate it all?  But maybe I'm covering ancient territory here.
  
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
  
   Exactly. Eastern woo aside, those sandals are still an article of 
   clothing worn by someone who was undeniably famous. The only way it would 
   be a swindle is if the sandals weren't actually MMY's sandals.
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
   
But here I draw the line. Sal, this is simply beyond your comprehension.
I can guarantee you that, even now, there are thousands of people, 
really, tens of thousands who would never feel swindled to have these 
come into their possession and would be transported to heaven, at least 
temporarily, while holding them precious and themselves blessed for the 
remainder of their lives. Of course you would hold them delusional, but 
they would hold you hopelessly ignorant. It's an Indian (Eastern) 
thing.  The Western mentality just can't grok this.
And hey, this auction house gets six figures for John Lennon's jacket, 
so why not close to that for M's sandals?

On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

 On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:03 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
 
  I don't know anything beyond what Mark has shared publicly. I was 
  commenting on how we really don't know anything about the potential 
  buyers of Mark's sandals, or what he will settle for. I hope he 
  makes a bundle. Why not?
 
 So you hope someone's going to get swindled?
 Sal 
 

   
   
  
 

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 But here I draw the line.  Sal, this is simply beyond
 your comprehension.

 I can guarantee you that, even now, there are thousands
 of people, really, tens of thousands who would never feel
 swindled to have these come into their possession and
 would be transported to heaven, at least temporarily,
 while holding them precious and themselves blessed for
 the remainder of their lives.  Of course you would hold
 them delusional, but they would hold you hopelessly
 ignorant.  It's an Indian (Eastern) thing.  The Western
 mentality just can't grok this.

Actually, Mark, it's not that difficult for those of a
Western mentality to grok it. Or shouldn't be. The
inability to do so suggests that there's something in
the way in the mind of the individual who can't manage
it--bigotry, for example. Or unreasoning loathing for
the person who wore the sandals. Or contempt for the
unemployed. Or envy of a person who appears likely to
benefit from what amounts to a financial windfall. Or
maybe even the need to vent some bile on any handy
target, just to relieve the internal pressure.

 And hey, this auction house gets six figures for John Lennon's
 jacket, so why not close to that for M's sandals?

Well, indeed. That's the flip side. Westerners aren't
that different from Easterners in this regard. It's
the same dynamic, except that it's more likely to
be seen with celebrities than with spiritual teachers.
Celebrity artifacts are a *huge* business in this
country.

 On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
 
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:03 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
  
   I don't know anything beyond what Mark has shared
   publicly. I was commenting on how we really don't
   know anything about the potential buyers of Mark's
   sandals, or what he will settle for.

In fact, of course, we do know, because Mark has told
us, that he'll settle for $70,000, and that one 
prospective buyer has already offered $10,000, which
he turned down.

   I hope he makes a bundle. Why not?
  
  So you hope someone's going to get swindled?

IOW, Sal hopes Mark will *not* make a bundle. But if
he does, she has to frame it negatively, no matter how
illogical it is to suggest that a transaction eminently
satisfactory to both parties would be a swindle.

Yes, Mark, as you said earlier, we have to give Sal
her due.

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[RoryGoff]

* * * Ha! Semen's to me another organ might symbolically expel Shiva's seed 
better than his assholiness :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Based on your description, I am picturing God farting backwards.:-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  * * * Ha! Yes. My favorite model of the body of the universe (and every 
  I-particle in it) is a torus, like a magnetic field, with the insucking 
  black-hole end as mass (Vishnu, Love, centrifugal Sat-sattva), the 
  outflowing white-hole end as energy (Shiva, Laughter, centripetal 
  Ananda-tamas), and the central singularity-point as consciousness (Brahma, 
  Light, rotary Chit-rajas), the light at the door, as it were. Kind of funny 
  that Einstein wrote it E = M C-squared, with Light-squared here being 
  equivalent to Consciousness aware of itSelf. Wonder why he used C for 
  Light (aka Consciousness?) :-)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  
   And let's not underestimate Eastern woo.  Western science only recently 
   discovered that mass equals energy, a lot of energy.  Eastern science has 
   been exploring and utilizing energy for millennia, at least in terms of 
   it's relationship to life, consciousness, the heart and spirit and has 
   developed awesome technologies in this regard.  And isn't it that mass 
   equals energy equals consciousness, each being more fundamental than the 
   last?  There's a lot more to Eastern woo than just woo.  If we want 
   wholeness, being all that we can be, all that we are, don't we have to 
   incorporate it all?  But maybe I'm covering ancient territory here.
   
   On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
   
Exactly. Eastern woo aside, those sandals are still an article of 
clothing worn by someone who was undeniably famous. The only way it 
would be a swindle is if the sandals weren't actually MMY's sandals.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 But here I draw the line. Sal, this is simply beyond your 
 comprehension.
 I can guarantee you that, even now, there are thousands of people, 
 really, tens of thousands who would never feel swindled to have these 
 come into their possession and would be transported to heaven, at 
 least temporarily, while holding them precious and themselves blessed 
 for the remainder of their lives. Of course you would hold them 
 delusional, but they would hold you hopelessly ignorant. It's an 
 Indian (Eastern) thing.  The Western mentality just can't grok this.
 And hey, this auction house gets six figures for John Lennon's 
 jacket, so why not close to that for M's sandals?
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
 
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:03 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
  
   I don't know anything beyond what Mark has shared publicly. I was 
   commenting on how we really don't know anything about the 
   potential buyers of Mark's sandals, or what he will settle for. I 
   hope he makes a bundle. Why not?
  
  So you hope someone's going to get swindled?
  Sal 
  
 


   
  
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[curtisdeltablues]

I never met Peter and am not saying he is not a normal guy.  I think I am 
saying he actually is a normal guy with one too many super normal stories.  I 
did meet guys like him in the movement who have one too many miraculous tales 
to tell. 

If you listen to a guy like Vernon Katz talk about Maharishi you will see the 
difference.  Vernon's descriptions of his interactions don't have the effect of 
making him look special.  They make Maharishi look special but in a wise 
balanced way.  He told me that Maharishi was fond of exaggerating. But it was 
in a loving: oh that Maharishi is such a rascal.  I should probably get his 
book.  

Your read on the minder may be correct.  Guys like Peter from the royal Wallace 
family have always caused trouble for the movement because they don't bow to 
any of Maharishi's minions.  I saw that with certain people who had been around 
Maharishi in the early days.  Jerry was treated that way, with suspicion that 
he wouldn't tow the latest party line when he was at MIU.

Perhaps Rick can fill in more of Peter's history in the movement. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Did you know this guy Peter before? Just curious, because he seems normal 
 enough. Perhaps it was the propensity of all of those governors to toot 
 their horns in the political environment around Maharishi that has (overly) 
 sensitized you for any hint of this behavior when you watch something like 
 this. I don't know. 
 
 As for the TM teacher next to him, he almost seemed like a minder from a 
 totalitarian regime, placed next to Peter to ensure he continued to hew to 
 the party line. The other guy's facial expressions were disconcerting and 
 amusing at the same time, as if he always wanted to be reflecting the deep 
 truth of what Peter was saying, intellectually. At one point, after the 
 camera pulled back and Mr. TM Teacher insinuated himself into the frame, I 
 had to watch it with my hand covering his face, as his agitations were 
 seriously distracting.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  Called it like I saw it.  No big break needed.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
  
   He seemed like a pretty normal guy just talking about his past. What is 
   the big deal? Seems like you are always looking for something you 
   invariably find Curtis. Why not give the guy, and yourself a big break?
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
As Robin notes, these kinds of stories do make teachers of TM go to 
that tender level of feeling where many of us ex or not, would have 
loved to have hung out with the pre-World Government Maharishi in 
Rishikesh for such an extended period of time.  I partied out with 
Maharishi before he became Donald Trump tales rock. And if his 
experience with Maharishi with its Hollywood worthy miraculous meeting 
was the only tale in the interview, I probably would have just gotten 
my vicarious buzz on about his chill'n with the guy who knew all the 
answers, my ex-guru daddy supreme, Maharishi.  

But he played the miraculous coincidence card one too many times and my 
too good to be true alarm went off.  Oh ye of the tender level of 
feeling who found this string of amazing stories to nourish your finest 
level of your heart, please forgive me, because it was not a conscious 
mind thing.  It was little buoy that came up from deep down in my mind 
where the fish are all luminous and some don't even have eyes anymore.  
They don't need them down there even though they do possess vestigial 
nonfunctional eyes.  (what a weird thing to include in an intelligent 
design huh?  Non eyes, that don't see...but used to a long time ago.) 

I am my own buzz buster.  I freak'n love stories like the ones Peter 
told.  I adore them.  

But my Goddamn unconscious tyrant sent me a memo.  One that I can't 
refuse, despite the price I pay in euphoria deflation over such a 
string of wonderful tales of encounters with special, wonderful people.

So here it is.  Too many perfect coincidences in a row with the same 
message as the subtext.  And the message is that this person, Peter, is 
the most wonderfully, specially, coincidentally acknowledged person by 
each and every  special person in his stories without exception.  None 
of them were met the way I met Maharishi, each one has a story, worthy 
of standing alone in its magical perfection.  Why did he have to put 
them all together?  Could he have included even one story that sounded 
like mine?  One story that didn't have the blessed perfection of a 
perfectly told story?   Could he have shown a bit of literary 
discipline in what he was serving us?

OK.  If this is how it all really went down, then he 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

snip  Jerry was treated that way, with suspicion that he wouldn't tow the 
latest party line when he was at MIU.

* * Editor's note -- toe the line is the accepted form of this idiom, though 
your variant conjures up interesting images! :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[curtisdeltablues]

Excellent correction, thanks.  Mr. Malapropism strikes again!




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
 snip  Jerry was treated that way, with suspicion that he wouldn't tow the 
 latest party line when he was at MIU.
 
 * * Editor's note -- toe the line is the accepted form of this idiom, 
 though your variant conjures up interesting images! :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[Mark Landau]

This did, I must admit, elicit more than just grins, but at dear Sal's expense. 
 Let me just say this.  Sal, you do seem to have some deep, irrational 
resistance to the possible value of these sandals.  And the whole thing does 
(and perhaps I and M do) seem to trigger you pretty strongly.  You might want 
to consider looking more deeply into this within yourself.
Will this, too, make you want to lash out at me?  That's not its ultimate 
purpose.  Nor is this only patronizing, no matter how much it may appear that 
way.  It's amazing all the things we all have to deal with within ourselves.  
Is it not?  But not so amazing, if we take Rory's seeming perspective, or the 
universal one, that we all have to deal with every imaginable thing in the 
universe that might in any imaginable way need to be dealt with.  It's just, I 
guess, that some of us have to deal with certain types of such things far more 
than others.

On Sep 17, 2011, at 9:27 AM, authfriend wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  But here I draw the line. Sal, this is simply beyond
  your comprehension.
 
  I can guarantee you that, even now, there are thousands
  of people, really, tens of thousands who would never feel
  swindled to have these come into their possession and
  would be transported to heaven, at least temporarily,
  while holding them precious and themselves blessed for
  the remainder of their lives. Of course you would hold
  them delusional, but they would hold you hopelessly
  ignorant. It's an Indian (Eastern) thing. The Western
  mentality just can't grok this.
 
 Actually, Mark, it's not that difficult for those of a
 Western mentality to grok it. Or shouldn't be. The
 inability to do so suggests that there's something in
 the way in the mind of the individual who can't manage
 it--bigotry, for example. Or unreasoning loathing for
 the person who wore the sandals. Or contempt for the
 unemployed. Or envy of a person who appears likely to
 benefit from what amounts to a financial windfall. Or
 maybe even the need to vent some bile on any handy
 target, just to relieve the internal pressure.
 
  And hey, this auction house gets six figures for John Lennon's
  jacket, so why not close to that for M's sandals?
 
 Well, indeed. That's the flip side. Westerners aren't
 that different from Easterners in this regard. It's
 the same dynamic, except that it's more likely to
 be seen with celebrities than with spiritual teachers.
 Celebrity artifacts are a *huge* business in this
 country.
 
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
  
   On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:03 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
   
I don't know anything beyond what Mark has shared
publicly. I was commenting on how we really don't
know anything about the potential buyers of Mark's
sandals, or what he will settle for.
 
 In fact, of course, we do know, because Mark has told
 us, that he'll settle for $70,000, and that one 
 prospective buyer has already offered $10,000, which
 he turned down.
 
I hope he makes a bundle. Why not?
   
   So you hope someone's going to get swindled?
 
 IOW, Sal hopes Mark will *not* make a bundle. But if
 he does, she has to frame it negatively, no matter how
 illogical it is to suggest that a transaction eminently
 satisfactory to both parties would be a swindle.
 
 Yes, Mark, as you said earlier, we have to give Sal
 her due.
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 As for the TM teacher next to him, he almost seemed like a
 minder from a totalitarian regime, placed next to Peter
 to ensure he continued to hew to the party line. The other
 guy's facial expressions were disconcerting and amusing at
 the same time, as if he always wanted to be reflecting the 
 deep truth of what Peter was saying, intellectually. At
 one point, after the camera pulled back and Mr. TM Teacher
 insinuated himself into the frame, I had to watch it with
 my hand covering his face, as his agitations were seriously 
 distracting.

That was peculiar, to say the least. I finally figured
out that Mayhew was his own cameraman, so he was a
little limited in how he could set things up. Once
he'd gotten Peter going, he had to get up to focus the
camera in on Peter. So far, so good.

Then I think what happened was that he began to sense
that Peter's rambling had become, shall we say, less
than gripping, and that he needed to intervene with a
question to liven things up. So he pulled back the
camera to a two-shot and sat down beside Peter again,
expecting that Peter would take the hint and wind up
the story he was telling so Mayhew could point him in
another direction.

But Peter didn't get it and kept going, and Mayhew
didn't want to interrupt him too rudely, so he just
had to sit there. If he'd had a cameraman, the camera
would have gone back to focusing just on Peter until
Mayhew found a good spot to stop him gently.

Mayhew didn't quite know what to do with himself while
he was waiting for the right moment. He was stuck
there. What he should have done was just gaze intently
at Peter and make himself as inconspicuous as possible.
But I think he felt that as long as he couldn't easily
break in to ask a question, he needed to keep *reacting*
to Peter to justify his presence in the camera shot--to
very disconcerting effect, as you note!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 
 As for the TM teacher next to him, he almost seemed like a
 minder from a totalitarian regime, placed next to Peter to
 ensure he continued to hew to the party line. 

I've known Jim Mayhew for many years, and to the best of my knowledge, he is 
not a TM teacher.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
 snip  Jerry was treated that way, with suspicion that he
 wouldn't tow the latest party line when he was at MIU.
 
 * * Editor's note -- toe the line is the accepted form of this idiom, 
 though your variant conjures up interesting images! :-)

An increasingly common variant, actually. Interesting
discussion here (including examples from journalism, and
a justification of the variant, especially when used
with party line):

http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/72/tow/

Tow the line is classified by this site as nearly
mainstream.

Curtis, or anyone who digs language, should find this
blog fascinating. Explanation of the term eggcorn:

http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/about/

A similar eggcorn that I see frequently is tough road
to hoe:

http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/73/road/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[Sal Sunshine]

Would you two like to get a room together
somewhere?
Sal

On Sep 17, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Mark Landau wrote:

 I'm glad you like it.  That goes for both of us.  But then what comes next?  
 I won't, I must must admit, be reading all your posts.  But if I do feel I 
 see something in you, did you just give me permission to post it here (not, 
 necessarily, that it will happen)?  And I agree about Peter, all that you say 
 here.  
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 11:57 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
 
 But you will understand why I must break this off here (LW).
 
 I can feel even in this moment your consciousness upon me—and I like it.
 
 Robin 
 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[curtisdeltablues]

What a find, thanks Judy!  I am guilty of the road to hoe one too.  I will be 
spending some time on this site tightening up my eggcorns.

Munch appropriated! 



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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
  snip  Jerry was treated that way, with suspicion that he
  wouldn't tow the latest party line when he was at MIU.
  
  * * Editor's note -- toe the line is the accepted form of this idiom, 
  though your variant conjures up interesting images! :-)
 
 An increasingly common variant, actually. Interesting
 discussion here (including examples from journalism, and
 a justification of the variant, especially when used
 with party line):
 
 http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/72/tow/
 
 Tow the line is classified by this site as nearly
 mainstream.
 
 Curtis, or anyone who digs language, should find this
 blog fascinating. Explanation of the term eggcorn:
 
 http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/about/
 
 A similar eggcorn that I see frequently is tough road
 to hoe:
 
 http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/73/road/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Review: Beautiful Lies (De vrais mensonges)

[Bhairitu]

Good luck.  First off it only released in France at the end of 2010 so 
it may still be looking for a US distributor.  It played a festival in 
the US in April.  Since the majority of American apparently can no 
longer read they don't like films with subtitles.  Direct to video would 
be an option and it is available as a Region 3 (Asia) DVD on Amazon.  
The owners may be holding out for a winter run in US art houses or 
DVD/BD release.  Doesn't even list on Netflix nor Vudu (where it might 
show up first).  Or you can go the eyepatch route (where it is available).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1529569/

As of late many European films seem to be releasing a year later in the US.

On 09/17/2011 08:12 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:
 Looks good! Now, how to find it as a rental...:-)

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@...  wrote:
 Released last year in France but only recently released on DVD with
 English subtitles, this is probably the most enjoyable film I've seen in
 months. (And I say that even if its English title is a lie; the French
 really translates more to True Lies, but I guess that title was
 already taken by an Ahnold movie.)

 This film was created by Pierre Salvadori, writer of Wild Target and
 Priceless (Hors de prix) and again employs the French megastar (for
 Amelie) who made Priceless...uh...so priceless, Audrey Tautou. She
 is just so cute that one is tempted to think that all one has to do is
 point a camera at her and give her a similar name (in this movie she's
 Emelie), and you've got a hit movie on your hands.

 It's more complicated than that, of course. To make a hit movie, one
 also needs a great script (this movie has one) and co-stars equal to
 Tautou's stature and quirkiness. Salvadori went for the big guns, using
 an even bigger French star (Natalie Baye, with 89 films to her credit)
 to play Emelie's mother, and Sami Bouajila to play the love
 interest...of both.

 It's not quite as kinky as it sounds. Jean (Bouajila) is smitten with
 Emelie and writes her an anonymous love letter. Emelie, to self-obsessed
 to either figure out who it's from or care, throws the letter away. But
 then when she finds her mother moping around three years after a
 divorce, she tries to cheer her up by copying the love letter and
 sending it off to Mom. Mom's life perks up, but when she finds out who
 really sent it, Emelie's life gets very, very complicated. It's really
 MUCH funnier than it sounds; I watched it with a male friend and we both
 howled with laughter all the way through, so it's not at all the chick
 flick it may sound like. Here's a trailer, which you should watch before
 reading the rest of this review:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh79BDHECig

 Did you notice in the trailer how gorgeous Audrey Tautou is? No surprise
 there, of course. But did you notice how gorgeous Natalie Baye is,
 playing her mother? Here's the kicker -- Natalie Baye is old enough to
 be Tautou's grandmother. She's 62. And if her PR is accurate, she's
 stayed this beautiful for this long just as a result of having good
 French genes, without having to go the cosmetic surgery route. Truly
 astounding.

 Both women are tremendous actors, and their timing in this flick is
 flawless. Sami Bouajila gets to play mainly the poor befuddled lovesick
 guy who doesn't quite know what's happening, but his sense of timing
 makes that hilarious as well. One aspect of this film -- mainly set in a
 beauty salon owned by Emelie at which Jean works as a handyman and Maddy
 (Baye) visits as a customer -- is that for the French it hearkens back
 to another delightful and successful comedy, Venus Beauty Institute.
 In that film, Natalie Baye played the owner of a salon, and a young,
 then unknown Audrey Tautou played one of her employees.

 If I gave out stars in these silly mini-reviews I write for FFL, this
 movie would get my highest rating. It's truly delightful, and IMO will
 cheer up even the grumpiest of curmudgeons, on the program of off.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[Mark Landau]

No buddying in public allowed?  Is that a written or unwritten FFL protocol?

On Sep 17, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

 Would you two like to get a room together
 somewhere?
 Sal
 
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Mark Landau wrote:
 
 I'm glad you like it.  That goes for both of us.  But then what comes next?  
 I won't, I must must admit, be reading all your posts.  But if I do feel I 
 see something in you, did you just give me permission to post it here (not, 
 necessarily, that it will happen)?  And I agree about Peter, all that you 
 say here.  
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 11:57 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
 
 But you will understand why I must break this off here (LW).
 
 I can feel even in this moment your consciousness upon me—and I like it.
 
 Robin 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A little treat for Curtis

[maskedzebra]

CDB: I reject that solid finds in science hit us as intuitively true and solid. 
Too much of it lies outside our sensory range and involves statistics that is 
completely counterintuitive.

Me3: Good point. This helps me. Maybe this reveals a chronic problem inside my 
own consciousness: that I am always seeking an artistic fit for any scientific 
theory—like the beauty of mathematics. I remember when I first encountered 
(have I told you this before?) my first real science teacher in grade 9 
(someone who taught science exclusively). Immediately I recognized that he was 
a victim of the world of science—or rather that inside working in science 
whatever within him needed to come alive felt no stimulus to do so. He became 
for me the stereotypical scientist that I think my psychology has always 
reacted to. Thus unbeknownst to me prejudicing me, making me feel that if there 
isn't any hidden poetry there, it must be (the scientific theory) lacking 
something. Believe it or not, Curtis, just having these conversations with you 
has allowed me to have a happier relationship to science. So, don't give up on 
me.

As I say, the problem for me (with science) has always been the fact that the 
observer, knower, experiencer—the scientist's own subjective self—is 
necessarily and methodologically eliminated from the equation: this means that 
the scientist, when he is doing pure science, never has any feedback from the 
enterprise he is devoting himself to. Not like almost every other profession 
(business, art, teaching, music, architecture, postman, salesperson, 
construction worker, secretary, lawyer etc etc etc.). This may tend to make the 
scientist unconsciously assume that he can perfectly deal with reality without 
having to pass through his own personal experience of himself. Which is why, on 
the one hand, the physics professor gives off a different kind of vibe from the 
English professor (although there are more temptations and indulgences 
available in the case of the English prof than in the case of the physics prof).

CDB: But macroevolution has vindicated itself.

Me3: I have read serious scientists (like Michael Behe, full professor of 
biology at Leigh University), serious mathematicians (like David Berlinski: 
SeeThe Deniable Darwin: Commentary Magazine June 1996: that article was  
turning point for me—and make sure you read [if you decide to!] the responses 
to that article—and then DB's counter-responses); serious philosophers (like 
Alvin Plantinga)—to mention just a few intelligent, sincere, fully-informed 
human beings—who question the scientific truthfulness of macroevolution—or at 
the very least have grave doubts about its ability to explain what it seeks to 
explain: and I don't sense (even though two of these people are religious; the 
other an agnostic) the slightest blind spot in their thinking—nor any 
psychological disposition to resist the idea of macroevolution. Remember, 
though: I don't put *myself* with these people; I have the most subtle 
intuition there is *something* to the idea of macroevolution; it just that what 
it is exactly has not been demonstrated to me by those who propagate the 
theory, including yourself—but you get a little further with me perhaps. I 
realize, of course, that those scientists who do believe in macroevolution are 
convinced, like you, that it has vindicated itself. But, in my reading at 
least, they have singularly failed to provide a context of argument and 
analysis which encompasses and demolishes the arguments of the doubters. This 
is very clear to me. And they are, whether you know this or not, frustrated in 
this. But I am not, from my own place of knowing, going to say: Macroevolution 
is not true.

CDB: But science may discover how non-living molecules became the first spark 
of life just as it has described in detail the mechanics of how we go from 
those simple forms of life to us.

Me3: I can't refute this claim (the first part anyway) scientifically; but the 
nothing that existed before there was anything (The Big Bang) was not just 
nothingness; it was no thing at all. Zero. There only existed the being whose 
essence was his own existence. And when that being who was existence 
itself—even subjectively in his First Person Ontology—made the decision to 
create (from nothing), his own nature (which was existence) made something 
exist. But you will never get non-living molecules to become living 
molecules: this defies *common sense*(!)—and the metaphysical intuition of 
Thomas Nagel and Robin.

Physically there may be evidence of homo sapiens having descending from simpler 
forms; but in terms of personal consciousness, free will, reason, projecting 
into the future, friendship, arguing over the truth of macroevolution: nothing 
in our biological past can even come close to explaining these faculties and 
capacities—and even your assumption that it can against my conviction that it 
can't: that in itself has no biological, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[merudanda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOeh-dH97nUfeature=player_detailpage#t=1\
343s
http://tinyurl.com/3mxjown
here for the impatient 22:23min
ad: ...the story were Ananda Mayi Ma explains Maharishi's role in the
world and his relationship to Guru Dev...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote:
 
  Forwarded from a friend:
 
 
  There are some wonderful, rich stories in here about Maharishi as
  well as Anandamayi Ma... Well worth listening to.
 
  JAI GURU DEV
 
  WE are so fortunate beyond our imagination.


 Indeed !

 Pay special attention to the story were Ananda Mayi Ma explains
Maharishi's role in the world and his relationship to Guru Dev, in the
room full of so-called Pundits.

 Someone should interview Peter Wallace without interrupting this
saintly american.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOeh-dH97nU

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[maskedzebra]

 But if I do feel I see something in you, did you just give me permission to 
post it here?

Most definitely. Because I happen to know, by past experience, that it would be 
true.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 I'm glad you like it.  That goes for both of us.  But then what comes next?  
 I won't, I must must admit, be reading all your posts.  But if I do feel I 
 see something in you, did you just give me permission to post it here (not, 
 necessarily, that it will happen)?  And I agree about Peter, all that you say 
 here.  
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 11:57 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
 
  Re Peter, maybe his stroke knocked some of his conditioning out the 
  window, too. This sentence caught my attention, And it seemed to go to my 
  experience of the video. Not to account for my experience; but I think the 
  stroke broke him down in some way which created a sense of physical 
  humility. He was thrown upon his knees in a manner of speaking, and I think 
  it perhaps released his best self. Peter Wallace himself might offer some 
  insight here: I got the sense that he is very alert to metaphysical nuance; 
  in fact what was most astonishing to me was the correspondence between his 
  spiritual vocabulary and the reality to which this vocabulary referred to. 
  He was in effect simply describing his experience. But that experience made 
  itself known to us (for me at least) as an objective reality.
  
  Mariana Caplan, I have to put off, since I am Eastern-phobic when it comes 
  to books. I don't want to be reminded of my mystical past; it is still too 
  dominant in my physiology. The Lee Zozowick episode put me in the mind of 
  my seminars—again, something I have come view as part of the hallucination 
  of my Unity Consciousness, even as there was extraordinary drama and humour 
  and entertainment. But there was also pain and violence, and it was driven 
  by the assumption—and inspiration—of my enlightenment.
  
  Regarding myself, I already have a feeling that your objective 
  vulnerability (the context which is structured in your nervous system) is 
  recording its impressions of me, and sooner or later it will reveal some 
  truth about me.
  
  But you will understand why I must break this off here (LW).
  
  I can feel even in this moment your consciousness upon me—and I like it.
  
  Robin 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  
   This gave me the grins. Thanks.
   I'm reading a few books by this wonderful woman, Mariana Caplan. She's 
   really made quite a study of it and has a great grasp and insight into 
   the whole spiritual path thing. I read Eyes Wide Open first. I heartily 
   recommend it. I'm reading The Guru Question now. In it she explicates all 
   about that, but also uses her own path as examples of what one might 
   encounter. Her description of her first encounter with her own teacher 
   when she met him in Thiruvannaamalai, an American madman named Lee 
   Lozowick of the crazy wisdom traditions whose teacher was Yogi 
   Ramsuratkumar, is great. Upon taking one look at her, he spent 40 minutes 
   vivisecting her with merciless but purely objective discernment which her 
   ego was horrified by, but her spirit perceived as pure love. Of course 
   there was an audience there, as well. First he asked her if she wanted to 
   know what was going on with her. When she said yes, he asked her if she 
   were sure. He only started in on her after her second assent. Later, a 
   bunch of people there invited her to meet with them and spent the whole 
   time talking about how horrible Lee was to her. She heard them out, but 
   already knew Lee was her teacher.
   I wish I could do that. But it seems I have to get to at least spend a 
   little time with a person first, though there often are things I believe 
   I can objectively see right away. It took me years with M.
   Re Peter, maybe his stroke knocked some of his conditioning out the 
   window, too. But, again, my experience of him was almost 40 years ago.
   A tiny bit re the LW. But you did pretty well...:-)
   m
   
   On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:28 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
   
I think I am going to return to my purported Unity Consciousness, make 
you my skin boy, and then years later, read what you have to say about 
me: this, so I can get a true insight into myself. Because I think you 
might be able to tell me something—if you knew me like you get to know 
others—that I as yet still don't know about myself. The way you 
objectively carve someone up, it seems to me like impersonal surgery; 
therefore true. I am already getting—at least from the past—a fuller 
picture of Peter Wallace. Again, that picture does not undermine my 
recent experience; but I can sense, in terms of his personal history at 
least, there were thing to overcome. Has he overcome them? That 
fascinates me, because his performance on this video 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[pranamoocher]

But he makes one hell of a good TM Android!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@... wrote:

  I've known Jim Mayhew for many years, and to the best of my knowledge,
he is not a TM teacher.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[RoryGoff]

* * * Thanks, Judy. Yes, I have seen this mutation more frequently as of late, 
but wouldn't personally call it nearly mainstream yet. I sometimes tend to be 
a bit conservative, though, when it comes to language. (And I don't see why one 
can't toe a party line; even in that context toe still makes at least as much 
sense as tow to me: actually more so, given the war/parade antecedents of 
toeing the line, and with politics being a perennial favorite display of 
bellicose ceremony...)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
  snip  Jerry was treated that way, with suspicion that he
  wouldn't tow the latest party line when he was at MIU.
  
  * * Editor's note -- toe the line is the accepted form of this idiom, 
  though your variant conjures up interesting images! :-)
 
 An increasingly common variant, actually. Interesting
 discussion here (including examples from journalism, and
 a justification of the variant, especially when used
 with party line):
 
 http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/72/tow/
 
 Tow the line is classified by this site as nearly
 mainstream.
 
 Curtis, or anyone who digs language, should find this
 blog fascinating. Explanation of the term eggcorn:
 
 http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/about/
 
 A similar eggcorn that I see frequently is tough road
 to hoe:
 
 http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/73/road/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Recent video by Peter Wallace

[Sal Sunshine]

On Sep 17, 2011, at 11:40 AM, pranamoocher wrote:

 
 But he makes one hell of a good TM Android!

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
 j_alexander_stanley@... wrote:
 
  I've known Jim Mayhew for many years, and to the best of my knowledge, he is 
 not a TM teacher.

So, it is all good…yes? :)
It occurred to me that the Peter Wallace/
Jim Mayhew video would be great for prisons~~as torture.
Could you imagine, if a guy is faced with 
either life, or watching that video say,
100 times? Or even 10? No contest! Just think of all the $$ the
states could save!  

Sal 









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[maskedzebra]

Your objective sensitivity and discretion scares me, Sal—awesome. The Brokeback 
thing—I didn't realize it, but definitely it was there. Sad, really. But your 
fast (and functional) wit has saved me. I am pulling back on the Mark thing. I 
just have to remember: Go deeper, Robin: remember: Sal is around. She plumbs 
the depths of things like this. Be careful.

And so I will be from now on, Sal. You're most dazzling than Michael's first 
moonwalk.

Too much sunshine. Love ya, Baby Sal.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:

 Would you two like to get a room together
 somewhere?
 Sal
 
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Mark Landau wrote:
 
  I'm glad you like it.  That goes for both of us.  But then what comes next? 
   I won't, I must must admit, be reading all your posts.  But if I do feel I 
  see something in you, did you just give me permission to post it here (not, 
  necessarily, that it will happen)?  And I agree about Peter, all that you 
  say here.  
  
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 11:57 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
  
  But you will understand why I must break this off here (LW).
  
  I can feel even in this moment your consciousness upon me—and I like it.
  
  Robin 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 * * * Thanks, Judy. Yes, I have seen this mutation more
 frequently as of late, but wouldn't personally call it
 nearly mainstream yet.

Dunno what their criteria are. It probably says somewhere
on the site.

 I sometimes tend to be a bit conservative, though, when it
 comes to language.

Me too, since I make my living as an editor! The more lax
things get, the closer I am to being out of a job. ;-)
Actually I find myself becoming more permissive as I near
retirement, when I'll no longer have to be responsible
for resisting change...

 (And I don't see why one can't toe a party line; even in
 that context toe still makes at least as much sense as
 tow to me: actually more so, given the war/parade
 antecedents of toeing the line, and with politics being a
 perennial favorite display of bellicose ceremony...)

On the other hand (foot?), tow the party line does
convey the sense of a burden, something one has to lug
around. But the referent of that metaphor is a little
off; you can't really tow a line. You can only tow
something on the end of a line.


 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
   snip  Jerry was treated that way, with suspicion that he
   wouldn't tow the latest party line when he was at MIU.
   
   * * Editor's note -- toe the line is the accepted form of this idiom, 
   though your variant conjures up interesting images! :-)
  
  An increasingly common variant, actually. Interesting
  discussion here (including examples from journalism, and
  a justification of the variant, especially when used
  with party line):
  
  http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/72/tow/
  
  Tow the line is classified by this site as nearly
  mainstream.
  
  Curtis, or anyone who digs language, should find this
  blog fascinating. Explanation of the term eggcorn:
  
  http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/about/
  
  A similar eggcorn that I see frequently is tough road
  to hoe:
  
  http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/73/road/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[merudanda]

20-year-old Peter Wallace  in the 1960's to seek enlightenment
.Maharishi recognized in Peter the potential  (23y.of age)to promote the
Vedic knowledge and seek his advise
now reasonable again? in-lightend...(hope he can read that and will
remember our  joke)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@... wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
 
  Why does the word fried keep popping into
  my head when I look at those guys?

 Could it be because Peter has a passing resemblance to Colonel
Sanders, the KFC guy?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 What a find, thanks Judy!  I am guilty of the road to hoe
 one too.  I will be spending some time on this site
 tightening up my eggcorns.
 
 Munch appropriated!

Don't be too quick to discard your eggcorns. Sometimes
eggcorns are more evocative than the originals (e.g.,
bear-faced lie, get one's nipples in a twist, even
just desserts).



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
   snip  Jerry was treated that way, with suspicion that he
   wouldn't tow the latest party line when he was at MIU.
   
   * * Editor's note -- toe the line is the accepted form of this idiom, 
   though your variant conjures up interesting images! :-)
  
  An increasingly common variant, actually. Interesting
  discussion here (including examples from journalism, and
  a justification of the variant, especially when used
  with party line):
  
  http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/72/tow/
  
  Tow the line is classified by this site as nearly
  mainstream.
  
  Curtis, or anyone who digs language, should find this
  blog fascinating. Explanation of the term eggcorn:
  
  http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/about/
  
  A similar eggcorn that I see frequently is tough road
  to hoe:
  
  http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/73/road/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[curtisdeltablues]

Should a writer put something in quotes if they are purposely deviating from a 
standard phrase?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  What a find, thanks Judy!  I am guilty of the road to hoe
  one too.  I will be spending some time on this site
  tightening up my eggcorns.
  
  Munch appropriated!
 
 Don't be too quick to discard your eggcorns. Sometimes
 eggcorns are more evocative than the originals (e.g.,
 bear-faced lie, get one's nipples in a twist, even
 just desserts).
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:

snip  Jerry was treated that way, with suspicion that he
wouldn't tow the latest party line when he was at MIU.

* * Editor's note -- toe the line is the accepted form of this idiom, 
though your variant conjures up interesting images! :-)
   
   An increasingly common variant, actually. Interesting
   discussion here (including examples from journalism, and
   a justification of the variant, especially when used
   with party line):
   
   http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/72/tow/
   
   Tow the line is classified by this site as nearly
   mainstream.
   
   Curtis, or anyone who digs language, should find this
   blog fascinating. Explanation of the term eggcorn:
   
   http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/about/
   
   A similar eggcorn that I see frequently is tough road
   to hoe:
   
   http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/73/road/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 
 On the other hand (foot?), tow the party line does
 convey the sense of a burden, something one has to lug
 around. But the referent of that metaphor is a little
 off; you can't really tow a line. You can only tow
 something on the end of a line.
 
* * * Ha! Right, Judy. I presume the party itself would be on the other end of 
the line being towed :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[maskedzebra]

Perfect. Hilarious. Truthful. Revelatory. Oh, you smartypants, you, Sal: you're 
just incorrigible. When you say something like this it makes me think of 
Letterman interviewing  Bergman about his Death character.

By the way, just for the record: I ain't no homo or anything. Got that?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:

 On Sep 17, 2011, at 11:40 AM, pranamoocher wrote:
 
  
  But he makes one hell of a good TM Android!
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
  wrote:
  
   I've known Jim Mayhew for many years, and to the best of my knowledge, he 
  is not a TM teacher.
 
 So, it is all good…yes? :)
 It occurred to me that the Peter Wallace/
 Jim Mayhew video would be great for prisons~~as torture.
 Could you imagine, if a guy is faced with 
 either life, or watching that video say,
 100 times? Or even 10? No contest! Just think of all the $$ the
 states could save!  
 
 Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[authfriend]

One that we conservatives have already lost on is
sound byte (for bite). I see the former far 
more often than the latter.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  * * * Thanks, Judy. Yes, I have seen this mutation more
  frequently as of late, but wouldn't personally call it
  nearly mainstream yet.
 
 Dunno what their criteria are. It probably says somewhere
 on the site.
 
  I sometimes tend to be a bit conservative, though, when it
  comes to language.
 
 Me too, since I make my living as an editor! The more lax
 things get, the closer I am to being out of a job. ;-)
 Actually I find myself becoming more permissive as I near
 retirement, when I'll no longer have to be responsible
 for resisting change...
 
  (And I don't see why one can't toe a party line; even in
  that context toe still makes at least as much sense as
  tow to me: actually more so, given the war/parade
  antecedents of toeing the line, and with politics being a
  perennial favorite display of bellicose ceremony...)
 
 On the other hand (foot?), tow the party line does
 convey the sense of a burden, something one has to lug
 around. But the referent of that metaphor is a little
 off; you can't really tow a line. You can only tow
 something on the end of a line.
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:

snip  Jerry was treated that way, with suspicion that he
wouldn't tow the latest party line when he was at MIU.

* * Editor's note -- toe the line is the accepted form of this idiom, 
though your variant conjures up interesting images! :-)
   
   An increasingly common variant, actually. Interesting
   discussion here (including examples from journalism, and
   a justification of the variant, especially when used
   with party line):
   
   http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/72/tow/
   
   Tow the line is classified by this site as nearly
   mainstream.
   
   Curtis, or anyone who digs language, should find this
   blog fascinating. Explanation of the term eggcorn:
   
   http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/about/
   
   A similar eggcorn that I see frequently is tough road
   to hoe:
   
   http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/73/road/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 Should a writer put something in quotes if they are
 purposely deviating from a standard phrase?

Depends on the context and the deviation, I'd say. If
the deviation is nearly mainstream, and it seems to
suit the context better than the original--*and* you
aren't trying to impress people with your expert
command of English!--then I'd say no. If you put it
in quotes, obviously that calls attention to it *as*
a deviation, so the effect you were aiming for is lost.



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   What a find, thanks Judy!  I am guilty of the road to hoe
   one too.  I will be spending some time on this site
   tightening up my eggcorns.
   
   Munch appropriated!
  
  Don't be too quick to discard your eggcorns. Sometimes
  eggcorns are more evocative than the originals (e.g.,
  bear-faced lie, get one's nipples in a twist, even
  just desserts).
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
 snip  Jerry was treated that way, with suspicion that he
 wouldn't tow the latest party line when he was at MIU.
 
 * * Editor's note -- toe the line is the accepted form of this 
 idiom, though your variant conjures up interesting images! :-)

An increasingly common variant, actually. Interesting
discussion here (including examples from journalism, and
a justification of the variant, especially when used
with party line):

http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/72/tow/

Tow the line is classified by this site as nearly
mainstream.

Curtis, or anyone who digs language, should find this
blog fascinating. Explanation of the term eggcorn:

http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/about/

A similar eggcorn that I see frequently is tough road
to hoe:

http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/73/road/
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 One that we conservatives have already lost on is
 sound byte (for bite). I see the former far 
 more often than the latter.

* * * And though the editors weep bitterly, alack! --
We cannot bring the better sound bite back.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Review: Beautiful Lies (De vrais mensonges)

[merudanda]

The film starts with the opening line:
No, I know it won't suit me.

Trust me.
I know I'm right.
You'II Iook better without the fringe
...and ends with:
WouId you agree?
Rise up.
Show joy.
FIy with joy.
SmiIe.
SmiIe and fIy.
Back down now.
GentIy.
Very good.The END
...the gap between you may fill in with all your fantasy and humour you
can imagine--worth waiting for?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 Good luck.  First off it only released in France at the end of 2010 so
 it may still be looking for a US distributor.  It played a festival in
 the US in April.  Since the majority of American apparently can no
 longer read they don't like films with subtitles.  Direct to video
would
 be an option and it is available as a Region 3 (Asia) DVD on Amazon.
 The owners may be holding out for a winter run in US art houses or
 DVD/BD release.  Doesn't even list on Netflix nor Vudu (where it might
 show up first).  Or you can go the eyepatch route (where it is
available).

 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1529569/

 As of late many European films seem to be releasing a year later in
the US.

 On 09/17/2011 08:12 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:
  Looks good! Now, how to find it as a rental...:-)
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@  wrote:
  Released last year in France but only recently released on DVD with
  English subtitles, this is probably the most enjoyable film I've
seen in
  months. (And I say that even if its English title is a lie; the
French
  really translates more to True Lies, but I guess that title was
  already taken by an Ahnold movie.)
 
  This film was created by Pierre Salvadori, writer of Wild Target
and
  Priceless (Hors de prix) and again employs the French megastar
(for
  Amelie) who made Priceless...uh...so priceless, Audrey Tautou.
She
  is just so cute that one is tempted to think that all one has to do
is
  point a camera at her and give her a similar name (in this movie
she's
  Emelie), and you've got a hit movie on your hands.
 
  It's more complicated than that, of course. To make a hit movie,
one
  also needs a great script (this movie has one) and co-stars equal
to
  Tautou's stature and quirkiness. Salvadori went for the big guns,
using
  an even bigger French star (Natalie Baye, with 89 films to her
credit)
  to play Emelie's mother, and Sami Bouajila to play the love
  interest...of both.
 
  It's not quite as kinky as it sounds. Jean (Bouajila) is smitten
with
  Emelie and writes her an anonymous love letter. Emelie, to
self-obsessed
  to either figure out who it's from or care, throws the letter away.
But
  then when she finds her mother moping around three years after a
  divorce, she tries to cheer her up by copying the love letter and
  sending it off to Mom. Mom's life perks up, but when she finds out
who
  really sent it, Emelie's life gets very, very complicated. It's
really
  MUCH funnier than it sounds; I watched it with a male friend and we
both
  howled with laughter all the way through, so it's not at all the
chick
  flick it may sound like. Here's a trailer, which you should watch
before
  reading the rest of this review:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh79BDHECig
 
  Did you notice in the trailer how gorgeous Audrey Tautou is? No
surprise
  there, of course. But did you notice how gorgeous Natalie Baye is,
  playing her mother? Here's the kicker -- Natalie Baye is old enough
to
  be Tautou's grandmother. She's 62. And if her PR is accurate, she's
  stayed this beautiful for this long just as a result of having good
  French genes, without having to go the cosmetic surgery route.
Truly
  astounding.
 
  Both women are tremendous actors, and their timing in this flick is
  flawless. Sami Bouajila gets to play mainly the poor befuddled
lovesick
  guy who doesn't quite know what's happening, but his sense of
timing
  makes that hilarious as well. One aspect of this film -- mainly set
in a
  beauty salon owned by Emelie at which Jean works as a handyman and
Maddy
  (Baye) visits as a customer -- is that for the French it hearkens
back
  to another delightful and successful comedy, Venus Beauty
Institute.
  In that film, Natalie Baye played the owner of a salon, and a
young,
  then unknown Audrey Tautou played one of her employees.
 
  If I gave out stars in these silly mini-reviews I write for FFL,
this
  movie would get my highest rating. It's truly delightful, and IMO
will
  cheer up even the grumpiest of curmudgeons, on the program of off.
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[Mark Landau]

So here's my problem with all this--wanting to maintain accountability and 
veracity in the 3D world, which, really, we must continue to do, I believe, as 
3D beings.
The way you're painting it here, M did everything from unconditional love, he 
was perfect and did no wrong--the TB viewpoint.
God or the Satguru does everything from universal love.  Humans have foibles, 
flaws, corruption.
As beings, we, ultimately, must incorporate it all; take responsibility for it 
all; face, embrace and heal it all; acknowledge it all as who we are.
But we can still use discernment, objective vulnerability, if you will, to 
perceive the crimes perpetrated by another, perceive, embrace and own them as 
crimes we, too, in one way or another, have committed.
Are you trying here to make M a perfect being, one who never acted from a 
smaller, corrupt part of himself?

On Sep 17, 2011, at 8:43 AM, RoryGoff wrote:

 * * Hey, Mark! Many thanks; new responses interleaved (* * *) below...
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  Thank you, this is interesting, see below.
  
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:42 PM, RoryGoff wrote:
  
 No, Mark, I haven't returned to the Dome since 2006. It felt and looked as if 
 M wanted me in there for that time -- that was really why I went, as I had no 
 desire from my side to return -- and it was an incredible gift that healed 
 the very last of my judgments and the unfinished business between us, 
 bursting my heart open again and again as he upheld my entire life and being, 
 even and especially the heretical parts, and showed me what everything 
 looked like from his side in incredible unconditional Love. Not that I had 
 even known I still desired such! But that was it -- I see it now as his 
 exceedingly generous farewell gift to me, and I remain blown away, at once 
 deeply humbled and exalted by it all to this day.
 
 Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  Hmm, while he was still here. Nice. Can't say that he so gifted me, nor 
  that I perceived him as always behaving from incredible unconditional Love. 
 
 * * * Yes, shockingly nice. From my POV it was entirely unexpected and wholly 
 unmerited, given my history, although in retrospect I suppose it was nature's 
 response to all the Work or inner housecleaning I had done over the years. 
 A Build it and We will come kind of thing, maybe. Is this Heaven? No; it's 
 a cornfield in Iowa. Darshan or Grace or Love looks much like an electrical 
 current, automatically flowing when there is receptivity, and not as 
 obviously when there is resistance. But I am finding that the resistance is 
 always only my own, stemming from a failure on my part to Love wholly 
 whatever aspect of wholeness Love is currently showing me. Our inner stories 
 and judgments can sometimes block our perception and appreciation of it.
 
 Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 How do you reconcile this with the Hitler images?
 
 * * * I reconciled it by unconditionally Loving all of it as myself; once 
 done, my most nightmarish demon out there becomes my loving devata/devotee 
 in here, my own beautiful child, my self. I am finding Love to be the only 
 universal currency and universal solvent.
 
 RoryGoff wrote:
   I cannot really speak for you, of course, Mark, but yes, I have been 
   finding it most healthy and simple to take responsiblity for my entire 
   world and all the stories I spin therein, especially the parts that 
   disturb me the most, as therein lies the greatest opportunity for growth 
   in Love and self-knowledge, as Love, like Brahman, consumes everything, 
   swallows every one of us whole.
 
 Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  Yes, I think if we can take responsibility for everything we perceive in 
  all that is, we're doing ourselves and all that is the most justice, not 
  that I can always do that.
 
 * * God knows, it is not always easy nor immediate. Sometimes it has taken me 
 years to understand and fulfill the specific nagging needs of some of my 
 demon/devatas :-)
 
 RoryGoff wrote:
   I am not sure about any mandatoriness of suit and dome-going; it probably 
   varies from job to job but I have never inquired. I will if you really 
   wish me to, but I am not at present particularly involved with that 
   arena. And yes, we would love to welcome you here -- my good and great 
   friend Tom T. especially has inquired about you repeatedly, and would 
   love to hear from you sometime.
 
 Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  No, of course not. I wouldn't ask you to do that. If I ever come to that 
  bridge, which I doubt, I'll find out soon enough. 
 
 * * True, you will! 
 
 Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 Maybe I'll get in touch with Tom or try that again.
 
 * * We would love that, Mark, if you felt like so doing.
 
   *L*L*L* always :-)
   
  Thanks, U2, m
 
 * * Thanks!
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Republicanism As Religion

[do.rflex]

Republicanism As Religion

by Andrew Sullivan - The Daily Beast, 12 Sep 2011


   The Dish covered
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/09/another-goodbye-to-all-\
that.html  the remarkable web essay of Mike Lofgren
http://www.truth-out.org/goodbye-all-reflections-gop-operative-who-left\
-cult/1314907779 , but I didn't comment myself because it  so closely
follows my own argument in The Conservative Soul
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060934379/thedaibea-20/  and on
this blog, that it felt  somewhat superfluous. But I want to draw
attention to the crux of the  piece, because if we are to understand how
the right became so unmoored  from prudence, moderation and tradition
and became so infatuated with  recklessness, extremism and revolution,
we need to understand how it  happened.
It is, of course, as my shrink never fails to point out, 
multi-determined. But here is Lofgren's attempt at a Rosebud:
How did the whole toxic stew of GOP beliefs -  economic royalism, 
militarism and culture wars cum fundamentalism - come  completely to 
displace an erstwhile civilized Eisenhower Republicanism?

It is my view that the rise of politicized  religious fundamentalism 
(which is a subset of the decline of rational  problem solving in 
America) may have been the key ingredient of the  takeover of the 
Republican Party. For politicized religion provides a  substrate of 
beliefs that rationalizes - at least in the minds of  followers - all 
three of the GOP's main tenets.

That too is my view: that the GOP, deep down, is behaving as a 
religious movement, not as a political party, and a radical religious 
movement at that.


Lofgren sees the Prosperity Gospel as a divine  blessing for personal
enrichment and minimal taxation (yes, that kind of  Gospel is compatible
with Rand, just not compatible with the actual  Gospels); for military
power (with a major emphasis on the punitive,  interventionist God of
the Old Testament); and for radical change and  contempt for existing
institutions (as a product of End-Times thinking, intensified after 9/11
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/09/911-and-the-end-times.h\
tml ).

Lofgren argues that supply-side economics attaches to the 
fundamentalist worldview purely by coalition necessity.


The  fundamentalists are not that interested in debt or economics (they
sure  didn't give a damn as spending exploded under Bush) but if their 
coalition partners insist on a certain economic doctrine, they'll easily
go along with it, as long as it is never compromised.


If it's presented  as eternal dogma, they can handle it - and defend it
with gusto.


If it  also means that Obama is wrong, so much the better.


Most theo-political  movements need an anti-Christ of some sort; and
Obama - even though he  is the most demonstrably Christian president
since Carter - fills the  role.
And so this political deadlock conceals a religious war at its heart.
Why after all should one abandon or compromise sacred truths?

And for  those whose Christianity can only be sustained by denial of
modern  complexity, of scientific knowledge, and of what scholarly
studies of the Bible's origins have revealed, this fusion of political
and spiritual lives into one seamless  sensibility and culture, is
irresistible.

And public reminders of  modernity - that, say, many Americans do not
celebrate Christmas, that  gay people have human needs, that America
will soon be a  majority-minority country and China will overtake the US
in GDP by  mid-century - are terribly threatening.

But all these nuances do not therefore vanish. The gays  don't
disappear. China keeps growing. The population becomes browner and 
browner. Women's lives increasingly become individual choices not 
social fates. And this enrages and terrifies the fundamentalist even 
more. Hence the occasional physical lashing out - think Breivik or 
McVeigh - but more profoundly, the constant endless insatiable cultural 
lashing out at the elites who have left fundamentalism behind, and 
have, on many core issues, science on their side.

So within this  religious core, and fundamentalist mindset, you also
have the steely  solder of ressentiment, intensified even further by a
period of  white middle and working class decline and economic crisis.
That's how I explain the current GOP.


It can only think in doctrines,  because the alternative is living in a
complicated, global, modern  world they both do not understand and also
despise.


Taxes are therefore always  bad. Government is never good. Foreign
enemies must be pre-emptively  attacked. Islam is not a religion.
Climate change is an elite  conspiracy to impoverish America. Terror
suspects are terrorists. When  Americans torture, it is not torture.
When Christians murder, they are  not Christians.


And if you change your mind on any of these issues, you  are a liberal,
an apostate, and will be attacked.
If your view of conservatism is one rooted in an instinctual, but 
agile, defense 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A little treat for Curtis

[curtisdeltablues]

Thanks for taking this whole thing in chuncks.  We should just pick and choose 
what really interests us out of that huge manifesto.  I will answer more later 
but I wanted to say that I am familiar with Behe and think it is hilarious that 
he is an actual biologist causing such a ruckus.  

Science is a team sport and that is a good thing because individuals are often 
highly motivated to believe some things that are not true.  Behe had the same 
chance any other scientist has had to make his case to his peers and he has 
failed.  No matter how cool his ideas may appear to those of us who are not 
experts in the field, his theories have not panned out among the scientists who 
we rely upon as a culture to check out assertions like his.  Although the rogue 
guy who is right when everyone else is wrong, makes an appealing dramatic 
character for the rest of us, this is not usually how science grows.  I know 
that there are abundant conspiracy theories about how all the rest of the 
scientists gang up on guys like Behe,  but I beleive it is more likely that if 
he had good evidence for his argument, many other theistic scientists would 
jump on board and help him flesh out the thoery.  This has not happened. His 
motivations for swimming against the school may not be scientific ones.

So he remains the champion of this ID movement while being so professionally 
discredited for his ideas that his own employer, Lehigh University, has posted 
this disclaimer about him on their Website:

http://www.lehigh.edu/bio/news/evolution.htm

The department faculty, then, are unequivocal in their support of evolutionary 
theory, which has its roots in the seminal work of Charles Darwin and has been 
supported by findings accumulated over 140 years. The sole dissenter from this 
position, Prof. Michael Behe, is a well-known proponent of intelligent 
design. While we respect Prof. Behe's right to express his views, they are his 
alone and are in no way endorsed by the department. It is our collective 
position that intelligent design has no basis in science, has not been tested 
experimentally, and should not be regarded as scientific. 

That is one serious smackdown!



 









--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:

 
 CDB: I reject that solid finds in science hit us as intuitively true and 
 solid. Too much of it lies outside our sensory range and involves statistics 
 that is completely counterintuitive.
 
 Me3: Good point. This helps me. Maybe this reveals a chronic problem inside 
 my own consciousness: that I am always seeking an artistic fit for any 
 scientific theory—like the beauty of mathematics. I remember when I first 
 encountered (have I told you this before?) my first real science teacher in 
 grade 9 (someone who taught science exclusively). Immediately I recognized 
 that he was a victim of the world of science—or rather that inside working in 
 science whatever within him needed to come alive felt no stimulus to do so. 
 He became for me the stereotypical scientist that I think my psychology has 
 always reacted to. Thus unbeknownst to me prejudicing me, making me feel that 
 if there isn't any hidden poetry there, it must be (the scientific theory) 
 lacking something. Believe it or not, Curtis, just having these conversations 
 with you has allowed me to have a happier relationship to science. So, don't 
 give up on me.
 
 As I say, the problem for me (with science) has always been the fact that the 
 observer, knower, experiencer—the scientist's own subjective self—is 
 necessarily and methodologically eliminated from the equation: this means 
 that the scientist, when he is doing pure science, never has any feedback 
 from the enterprise he is devoting himself to. Not like almost every other 
 profession (business, art, teaching, music, architecture, postman, 
 salesperson, construction worker, secretary, lawyer etc etc etc.). This may 
 tend to make the scientist unconsciously assume that he can perfectly deal 
 with reality without having to pass through his own personal experience of 
 himself. Which is why, on the one hand, the physics professor gives off a 
 different kind of vibe from the English professor (although there are more 
 temptations and indulgences available in the case of the English prof than in 
 the case of the physics prof).
 
 CDB: But macroevolution has vindicated itself.
 
 Me3: I have read serious scientists (like Michael Behe, full professor of 
 biology at Leigh University), serious mathematicians (like David Berlinski: 
 SeeThe Deniable Darwin: Commentary Magazine June 1996: that article was  
 turning point for me—and make sure you read [if you decide to!] the responses 
 to that article—and then DB's counter-responses); serious philosophers (like 
 Alvin Plantinga)—to mention just a few intelligent, sincere, fully-informed 
 human beings—who question the scientific truthfulness of macroevolution—or at 
 the very least have grave 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[Mark Landau]

Constant, a particular constant, the speed of light.  But you knew that, right? 
 I may not get that far, but I keep thinking I should rework your torus a 
little.  My guess is it could be reworked in a lot of ways.

On Sep 17, 2011, at 9:15 AM, RoryGoff wrote:

 * * * Ha! Yes. My favorite model of the body of the universe (and every 
 I-particle in it) is a torus, like a magnetic field, with the insucking 
 black-hole end as mass (Vishnu, Love, centrifugal Sat-sattva), the outflowing 
 white-hole end as energy (Shiva, Laughter, centripetal Ananda-tamas), and the 
 central singularity-point as consciousness (Brahma, Light, rotary 
 Chit-rajas), the light at the door, as it were. Kind of funny that Einstein 
 wrote it E = M C-squared, with Light-squared here being equivalent to 
 Consciousness aware of itSelf. Wonder why he used C for Light (aka 
 Consciousness?) :-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  And let's not underestimate Eastern woo. Western science only recently 
  discovered that mass equals energy, a lot of energy. Eastern science has 
  been exploring and utilizing energy for millennia, at least in terms of 
  it's relationship to life, consciousness, the heart and spirit and has 
  developed awesome technologies in this regard. And isn't it that mass 
  equals energy equals consciousness, each being more fundamental than the 
  last? There's a lot more to Eastern woo than just woo. If we want 
  wholeness, being all that we can be, all that we are, don't we have to 
  incorporate it all? But maybe I'm covering ancient territory here.
  
  On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
  
   Exactly. Eastern woo aside, those sandals are still an article of 
   clothing worn by someone who was undeniably famous. The only way it would 
   be a swindle is if the sandals weren't actually MMY's sandals.
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
   
But here I draw the line. Sal, this is simply beyond your comprehension.
I can guarantee you that, even now, there are thousands of people, 
really, tens of thousands who would never feel swindled to have these 
come into their possession and would be transported to heaven, at least 
temporarily, while holding them precious and themselves blessed for the 
remainder of their lives. Of course you would hold them delusional, but 
they would hold you hopelessly ignorant. It's an Indian (Eastern) 
thing.  The Western mentality just can't grok this.
And hey, this auction house gets six figures for John Lennon's jacket, 
so why not close to that for M's sandals?

On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

 On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:03 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
 
  I don't know anything beyond what Mark has shared publicly. I was 
  commenting on how we really don't know anything about the potential 
  buyers of Mark's sandals, or what he will settle for. I hope he 
  makes a bundle. Why not?
 
 So you hope someone's going to get swindled?
 Sal 
 

   
   
  
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[RoryGoff]

* * * Ha! No, not at all, Mark; in the 3D Theater I am not trying to make M a 
perfect being who never acted from corruption, nor -- were I so moved -- would 
I hesitate to hold him as accountable as anyone else when it comes to personal 
behavior. In the 3D Theater, we all like to see Justice prevail and Good 
triumph over Evil.

But that is the 3D Theater: Mother Nature's tits as it were. So I am saying 
when it comes right down to the naked Truth of it, when I look into Her eyes 
*I have no idea who M really IS* -- other than unconditional Love of the Self. 
I find this to be True for anyone and everyone I really pay attention to, and 
thereby absorb completely as a persona of, or pattern arising within, that same 
Self-Awareness. And this is the only thing I KNOW to be True, Self-evidently. 
And from here and now, that Love Lovingly absorbs and upholds everything, every 
story, every pattern, every persona, even evil and corruption and -- much 
to my shock -- rebellion. And M has been one of those who has showed me most 
clearly this incredibly simple Understanding. That's all.

*L*L*L*

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 So here's my problem with all this--wanting to maintain accountability and 
 veracity in the 3D world, which, really, we must continue to do, I believe, 
 as 3D beings.
 The way you're painting it here, M did everything from unconditional love, he 
 was perfect and did no wrong--the TB viewpoint.
 God or the Satguru does everything from universal love.  Humans have foibles, 
 flaws, corruption.
 As beings, we, ultimately, must incorporate it all; take responsibility for 
 it all; face, embrace and heal it all; acknowledge it all as who we are.
 But we can still use discernment, objective vulnerability, if you will, to 
 perceive the crimes perpetrated by another, perceive, embrace and own them as 
 crimes we, too, in one way or another, have committed.
 Are you trying here to make M a perfect being, one who never acted from a 
 smaller, corrupt part of himself?
 
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 8:43 AM, RoryGoff wrote:
 
  * * Hey, Mark! Many thanks; new responses interleaved (* * *) below...
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  
   Thank you, this is interesting, see below.
   
   On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:42 PM, RoryGoff wrote:
   
  No, Mark, I haven't returned to the Dome since 2006. It felt and looked as 
  if M wanted me in there for that time -- that was really why I went, as I 
  had no desire from my side to return -- and it was an incredible gift that 
  healed the very last of my judgments and the unfinished business between 
  us, bursting my heart open again and again as he upheld my entire life and 
  being, even and especially the heretical parts, and showed me what 
  everything looked like from his side in incredible unconditional Love. Not 
  that I had even known I still desired such! But that was it -- I see it now 
  as his exceedingly generous farewell gift to me, and I remain blown away, 
  at once deeply humbled and exalted by it all to this day.
  
  Mark Landau m@... wrote:
   Hmm, while he was still here. Nice. Can't say that he so gifted me, nor 
   that I perceived him as always behaving from incredible unconditional 
   Love. 
  
  * * * Yes, shockingly nice. From my POV it was entirely unexpected and 
  wholly unmerited, given my history, although in retrospect I suppose it was 
  nature's response to all the Work or inner housecleaning I had done over 
  the years. A Build it and We will come kind of thing, maybe. Is this 
  Heaven? No; it's a cornfield in Iowa. Darshan or Grace or Love looks much 
  like an electrical current, automatically flowing when there is 
  receptivity, and not as obviously when there is resistance. But I am 
  finding that the resistance is always only my own, stemming from a failure 
  on my part to Love wholly whatever aspect of wholeness Love is currently 
  showing me. Our inner stories and judgments can sometimes block our 
  perception and appreciation of it.
  
  Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  How do you reconcile this with the Hitler images?
  
  * * * I reconciled it by unconditionally Loving all of it as myself; once 
  done, my most nightmarish demon out there becomes my loving 
  devata/devotee in here, my own beautiful child, my self. I am finding 
  Love to be the only universal currency and universal solvent.
  
  RoryGoff wrote:
I cannot really speak for you, of course, Mark, but yes, I have been 
finding it most healthy and simple to take responsiblity for my entire 
world and all the stories I spin therein, especially the parts that 
disturb me the most, as therein lies the greatest opportunity for 
growth in Love and self-knowledge, as Love, like Brahman, consumes 
everything, swallows every one of us whole.
  
  Mark Landau m@... wrote:
   Yes, I think if we can take responsibility for everything we perceive in 
   all that is, we're 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

[Bob Price]

Sorry for the delay, but my cowboy father (the kind that
broke horses for a living) taught me to always stand up when a lady walks into
the room and if her gun is empty give her time to reload.




My goodness Judy, what can I possibly say---is that
twisted, as in twisting in the wind or maybe a
certain twist of fate, or possibly I'll take it with a twist,
of course it could mean: “get me Oliver Twist or why not  God are you are 
twisted, or
my favorite: you twist his words beyond all recognition. 




Oh the hell with it, would you like to twist? 




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q68MMpDpALUfeature=related




Although I appreciate your concern about wasting money, I
don't think the research would have been that costly---since more than half of 
your
posts, during any week I've been posting, amply demonstrate the censorious tone
of voice you employ on FFL You're correct, I don't have to waste time looking
at old posts, but since you seem to be pointed, more or less, permanently
toward the past---not unlike the British canons in Singapore that were cemented
the wrong way when the Japanese attacked from the other direction (ironic,
since Lawrence caught the Ottomans in the same mistake at Aqaba, in the
previous world war) we can just use the three posts you sent me after I took
a break. Why three to one, the Alien from outer space asks? Resentment is not
the explanation you exclaim, and denial is a river in Egypt.




As you know I can dig up definitions for censorship,
other than the ones you provided, but lets make it easy for our readers and use 
yours.




to examine in order to suppress or delete anything
considered objectionable also: to suppress or delete as objectionable
*censor out indecent passages




What, pray tell, do you think your particular style of  snipping 
demonstrates---beyond
making your reactive points while consciously and continually censoring the
meaning of the original posts? Of course you censor, the only one who does more
of it, on this forum, is Cliffy boy.  You do it in more than half your posts in 
exactly the way
it's defined in the definition you provided. 




Another one of your delights is the name-calling you accuse
others of practicing (see your recent posts about Sal---it must have been a
dilemma for you decide whether to react to Sal or Xeno with the one post you
had left on Thursday). Like this last post to me, it normally takes you two or
three posts---of someone disagreeing with your imagined higher standard of
truthfulness or behavior, and the name calling starts; stupid, Mr. Wonderful,
well-poisoner, twisted, semi literate, passive aggressive, and my all time 
favorite;
honey. Come on Judy---fess up, when someone else does it, you call it bad 
behavior,
when someone points out you're doing it---we all do it.




BTW, Mussolini did not invent fascism any more than Steve Jobs
invented GUI or the mouse. Check your facts---as you never tire of haranguing
Barry to do. In your morality play did I just call Steve Jobs a fascist or 
Mussolini? 




Is your characterization of my various voices on FFL supposed
to hurt my feelings?  No cigar this time. Or is it just your routine 
name-calling? Grow up; it's the Internet not
real life for heavens sake. And for God's sake look up the word resentment or
at least watch Ground Hog Day.  Since I'm twisted, what do you call 
individuals
who speak to dead people---you're right we don't find the same things funny. And
while you're looking up resentment, here's a few more words for you to look up;
SATIRE, CONTROL, SOUR PLUM, PATRONIZING, NASTY, CRITIC, INEFFECTIVE, CANARD,
HUMOURLESS, and GET A LIFE.




Like many progressives you're progressive till someone
offends your sense of what is acceptable.  YOU SEEM TO FORGET, democracy is NOT 
about protecting the people we
agree with, it about protecting the people many of us don't agree with. Turn a
liberal over and give them a good shake and out pops a born again neo 
con---almost
every time. You need to get out more Judith. The only thing twisted around here
is your exaggerated sense of moral superiority. I noticed your tone improved a
bit when our exchanges started, I predict you will rapidly revert to form once
I return to ignoring you (sound familiar).  So have at her, snip, snip, snip!




If I were doing something that the Bible
condemns, I have two choices. I can straighten up my act, or I can somehow
distort and TWIST and change the meaning of the Bible. -Jerry Falwell 




The beginning of love is to let those we
love be perfectly themselves, and not to TWIST them to fit our own image.
Otherwise we love only the reflection of ourselves we find in them. -Thomas 
Merton




I'll bet money you'd like to believe the
second quote more closely describes what you reach for---unfortunately your
voice on this forum says something different. The second quote is more than a
challenge to practice acceptance. Like most things Merton, it teaches on a
number of levels 

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 Constant, a particular constant, the speed of light.  But you knew that, 
 right?  

* * * Constant-- beautiful, Mark! No, I really know nothing. But yes, within 
the body of manifestation there may be one relative Constant, the 
light-awareness of I AM, ever balancing between creation and destruction :-) 

Mark Landau m@... wrote:
I may not get that far, but I keep thinking I should rework your torus a 
little.  My guess is it could be reworked in a lot of ways.

* * * You're probably right! Being pretty close to fundamental, it must find 
many, many ways to rework itself to express apparent differentiation.

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

snip
 Although I appreciate your concern about wasting money, I
 don't think the research would have been that costly---
 since more than half of your posts, during any week I've
 been posting, amply demonstrate the censorious tone of
 voice you employ on FFL

Let me stop you right there and suggest that you look
up the meaning of the term censorious. I would not
for even a split-second consider denying that my tone
is often censorious. Almost always when I'm commenting
on Barry's posts, in fact.

I'll give you some time to figure out what will appear
to you to be a contradiction to what I've said to you
previously. When you've got it, get back to me, OK?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[whynotnow7]

So, can you name a video you *could* watch 100 times? Even ten is a stretch, 
although I can see that happening with a good surfing movie; Riding Giants, 
Endless Summer II, or Step Into Liquid. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:

 On Sep 17, 2011, at 11:40 AM, pranamoocher wrote:
 
  
  But he makes one hell of a good TM Android!
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
  wrote:
  
   I've known Jim Mayhew for many years, and to the best of my knowledge, he 
  is not a TM teacher.
 
 So, it is all good…yes? :)
 It occurred to me that the Peter Wallace/
 Jim Mayhew video would be great for prisons~~as torture.
 Could you imagine, if a guy is faced with 
 either life, or watching that video say,
 100 times? Or even 10? No contest! Just think of all the $$ the
 states could save!  
 
 Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[RoryGoff]

* * * Groundhog Day?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 So, can you name a video you *could* watch 100 times? Even ten is a stretch, 
 although I can see that happening with a good surfing movie; Riding Giants, 
 Endless Summer II, or Step Into Liquid. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
 
  On Sep 17, 2011, at 11:40 AM, pranamoocher wrote:
  
   
   But he makes one hell of a good TM Android!
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
   j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
   
I've known Jim Mayhew for many years, and to the best of my knowledge, 
   he is not a TM teacher.
  
  So, it is all good…yes? :)
  It occurred to me that the Peter Wallace/
  Jim Mayhew video would be great for prisons~~as torture.
  Could you imagine, if a guy is faced with 
  either life, or watching that video say,
  100 times? Or even 10? No contest! Just think of all the $$ the
  states could save!  
  
  Sal
 

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[whynotnow7]

So if we take the C squared as a constant, and assume it to be Unlimited or 
Pure Consciousness*, the E = MC squared equation is then rendered as Energy, or 
Thought, Equals Mass times Consciousness squared, or Action reflecting Pure 
Consciousness. 

Next, writing the equation with Pure Consciousness closer to Thought, it 
becomes, Thought Supported By Pure Consciousness Equals Action, [T/C = A], or 
Yogastah Kuru Karmani.

* It should be noted that Pure Consciousness is an approximation in  the 
equation, using the vast possibilities inherent in the value of Consciousness 
squared, to approximate Pure Consciousness.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  Constant, a particular constant, the speed of light.  But you knew that, 
  right?  
 
 * * * Constant-- beautiful, Mark! No, I really know nothing. But yes, within 
 the body of manifestation there may be one relative Constant, the 
 light-awareness of I AM, ever balancing between creation and destruction :-) 
 
 Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 I may not get that far, but I keep thinking I should rework your torus a 
 little.  My guess is it could be reworked in a lot of ways.
 
 * * * You're probably right! Being pretty close to fundamental, it must find 
 many, many ways to rework itself to express apparent differentiation.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[whynotnow7]

Awesome!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 * * * Groundhog Day?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  So, can you name a video you *could* watch 100 times? Even ten is a 
  stretch, although I can see that happening with a good surfing movie; 
  Riding Giants, Endless Summer II, or Step Into Liquid. 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
  
   On Sep 17, 2011, at 11:40 AM, pranamoocher wrote:
   

But he makes one hell of a good TM Android!
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:

 I've known Jim Mayhew for many years, and to the best of my knowledge, 
he is not a TM teacher.
   
   So, it is all good…yes? :)
   It occurred to me that the Peter Wallace/
   Jim Mayhew video would be great for prisons~~as torture.
   Could you imagine, if a guy is faced with 
   either life, or watching that video say,
   100 times? Or even 10? No contest! Just think of all the $$ the
   states could save!  
   
   Sal
  
 

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[RoryGoff]

* * Could be, Jim! I like to see it psychologically as  Energy (Bliss or 
Spirit) is Mass (gravity-Love or Body) times Consciousness or Awareness (Soul) 
squared, or Aware of ItSelf: that is, we digest a Solid other into our Solar, 
Soular I AM furnace by knowing it through Love as our Self, thereby converting 
it into pure Energy or Bliss -- HA! :-D

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 So if we take the C squared as a constant, and assume it to be Unlimited or 
 Pure Consciousness*, the E = MC squared equation is then rendered as Energy, 
 or Thought, Equals Mass times Consciousness squared, or Action reflecting 
 Pure Consciousness. 
 
 Next, writing the equation with Pure Consciousness closer to Thought, it 
 becomes, Thought Supported By Pure Consciousness Equals Action, [T/C = A], or 
 Yogastah Kuru Karmani.
 
 * It should be noted that Pure Consciousness is an approximation in  the 
 equation, using the vast possibilities inherent in the value of Consciousness 
 squared, to approximate Pure Consciousness.  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
   Constant, a particular constant, the speed of light.  But you knew that, 
   right?  
  
  * * * Constant-- beautiful, Mark! No, I really know nothing. But yes, 
  within the body of manifestation there may be one relative Constant, the 
  light-awareness of I AM, ever balancing between creation and destruction 
  :-) 
  
  Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  I may not get that far, but I keep thinking I should rework your torus a 
  little.  My guess is it could be reworked in a lot of ways.
  
  * * * You're probably right! Being pretty close to fundamental, it must 
  find many, many ways to rework itself to express apparent differentiation.
 

[FairfieldLife] Spare

[whynotnow7]

For anyone who ever fell in love with life itself:

Spare (3:28)

http://www.box.net/shared/o02y0gcpckbhmhvteits



copyright Jim Flanegin/Temple Dog

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[Sal Sunshine]

That's gotta be it.
Sal

On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:30 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:

 I saw another article in the news last night about how companies are still 
 discriminating against the unemployed when hiring new workers. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:06 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 
 I'm hoping that Ted can put my set of flip-flops 
 up for auction at the same time that he puts up 
 Maharishi's sandals, so that I might get some
 spillover traffic from wealthy foot and fraud
 fetishists. Thanks to you and obbajeeba for 
 suggesting the idea. 
 
 I wonder whatever happened to the idea of,
 if you need $$, getting a job.  I think
 Mark is living in a dream-world, perhaps
 even dangerously so, if he thinks these
 decades-old relics are going to become
 his salvation.
 S

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[whynotnow7]

Inward stroke dude. Same deal. Was talking about the outward one. All good, 
Over and out there.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 * * Could be, Jim! I like to see it psychologically as  Energy (Bliss or 
 Spirit) is Mass (gravity-Love or Body) times Consciousness or Awareness 
 (Soul) squared, or Aware of ItSelf: that is, we digest a Solid other into 
 our Solar, Soular I AM furnace by knowing it through Love as our Self, 
 thereby converting it into pure Energy or Bliss -- HA! :-D
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  So if we take the C squared as a constant, and assume it to be Unlimited or 
  Pure Consciousness*, the E = MC squared equation is then rendered as 
  Energy, or Thought, Equals Mass times Consciousness squared, or Action 
  reflecting Pure Consciousness. 
  
  Next, writing the equation with Pure Consciousness closer to Thought, it 
  becomes, Thought Supported By Pure Consciousness Equals Action, [T/C = A], 
  or Yogastah Kuru Karmani.
  
  * It should be noted that Pure Consciousness is an approximation in  the 
  equation, using the vast possibilities inherent in the value of 
  Consciousness squared, to approximate Pure Consciousness.  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
Constant, a particular constant, the speed of light.  But you knew 
that, right?  
   
   * * * Constant-- beautiful, Mark! No, I really know nothing. But yes, 
   within the body of manifestation there may be one relative Constant, the 
   light-awareness of I AM, ever balancing between creation and destruction 
   :-) 
   
   Mark Landau m@... wrote:
   I may not get that far, but I keep thinking I should rework your torus a 
   little.  My guess is it could be reworked in a lot of ways.
   
   * * * You're probably right! Being pretty close to fundamental, it must 
   find many, many ways to rework itself to express apparent differentiation.
  
 

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In the last five years, the price of commodities like rubber, corn, and
cotton have doubled, crashed, and then quadrupled. Is this a typical
tango between limited supply and growing demand? Or have central banks
and investors pumped the commodities markets with extra juice that makes
their gyrations more violent?


In July, the St. Louis Fed looked at this very question. This
synchronization of price waves across many commodities (see above) might
suggest http://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/re/articles/?id=2122 
that our commodity price boom is a bubble driven primarily by near-zero
interest rates and excessive speculation in commodity futures markets.
But it's more likely that market fundamentals are driving the high price
of agricultural products and other resources, for at least three
reasons:


1) Supply shocks: The 47 percent increase in wheat prices last year was
largely attributable to drought in Russia and China and to floods in
Canada and Australia, the Fed reported. High cotton prices stemmed from
floods in China, the world's largest producer, and Pakistan, its
fourth-largest.

2) The Rise of China/India, whose share of the aluminum and copper
market has quadrupled since 1995.


3) The Rise of Biofuels: The growth of ethanol and biodiesel demand
means energy demands are eating what would have formerly been surplus of
corn and soy. This has the effect of placing a floor beneath food
prices, since there will always be a base of demand for these crops.


At the same time, there is a less understood relationship between
historically low U.S. interest rates, financial speculation, and high
food prices. This sounds impossibly convoluted, but it's not.


The Federal Reserve wants banks to lend more money. So it lowers

[FairfieldLife] Re: IS WALL STREET DRIVING WORK HUNGER

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Anywhere they can make a buck. Its a machine.:-)

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 In the last five years, the price of commodities like rubber, corn, and
 cotton have doubled, crashed, and then quadrupled. Is this a typical
 tango between limited supply and growing demand? Or have central banks
 and investors pumped the commodities markets with extra juice that makes
 their gyrations more violent?
 
 
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 1) Supply shocks: The 47 percent increase in wheat prices last year was
 largely attributable to drought in Russia and China and to floods in
 Canada and Australia, the Fed reported. High cotton prices stemmed from
 floods in China, the world's largest producer, and Pakistan, its
 fourth-largest.
 
 2) The Rise of China/India, whose share of the aluminum and copper
 market has quadrupled since 1995.
 
 
 3) The Rise of Biofuels: The growth of ethanol and biodiesel demand
 means energy demands are eating what would have formerly been surplus of
 corn and soy. This has the effect of placing a floor beneath food
 prices, since there will always be a base of demand for these crops.
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[Mark Landau]

V for Vendetta?  What's his name, Andy Rymer, had watched E.T. 40 times as of 
however many decades ago, maybe 140 times by now...

On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:40 PM, RoryGoff wrote:

 * * * Groundhog Day?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:
 
  So, can you name a video you *could* watch 100 times? Even ten is a 
  stretch, although I can see that happening with a good surfing movie; 
  Riding Giants, Endless Summer II, or Step Into Liquid. 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
  
   On Sep 17, 2011, at 11:40 AM, pranamoocher wrote:
   

But he makes one hell of a good TM Android!
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:

I've known Jim Mayhew for many years, and to the best of my knowledge, 
he is not a TM teacher.
   
   So, it is all good…yes? :)
   It occurred to me that the Peter Wallace/
   Jim Mayhew video would be great for prisons~~as torture.
   Could you imagine, if a guy is faced with 
   either life, or watching that video say,
   100 times? Or even 10? No contest! Just think of all the $$ the
   states could save! 
   
   Sal
  
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Did you know this guy Peter before? Just curious, because he seems normal 
 enough. Perhaps it was the propensity of all of those governors to toot 
 their horns in the political environment around Maharishi that has (overly) 
 sensitized you for any hint of this behavior when you watch something like 
 this. I don't know. 
 
 As for the TM teacher next to him, he almost seemed like a minder from a 
 totalitarian regime, placed next to Peter to ensure he continued to hew to 
 the party line. The other guy's facial expressions were disconcerting and 
 amusing at the same time, as if he always wanted to be reflecting the deep 
 truth of what Peter was saying, intellectually. At one point, after the 
 camera pulled back and Mr. TM Teacher insinuated himself into the frame, I 
 had to watch it with my hand covering his face, as his agitations were 
 seriously distracting.


Agreed. That's why Peter Wallce needs someone to interview him who does not 
interrupt. Just when he got into a very interesting bit this fellow jumps in 
from the left and effectively stops a very interesting flow of knowledge. 
Just having a fellow like that there who was friendly with Maharishi AND Ananda 
Mayi Ma is reason enough for me to consider making a stop in Fairfield soon.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A little treat for Curtis

[maskedzebra]

I had seen what his department (at Lehigh) says about him. You will spurn this, 
Curtis, but I get a feeling there is vested interest here. Read his Darwin's 
Black Box and tell me whether you think it is hilarious that he is an actual 
biologist causing such a ruckus. I have also read his very impressive The 
Edge of Evolution. I put one simple sentence to you:

How can this mere three pounds of soft grey-matter within the skull contain 
the experience of a lifetime?

That's not Behe; that's James Le Fanu who wrote the most beautiful book on 
science I have ever read: Why Us: How Science Rediscovered the Mystery of 
Ourselves—I was transported by this book. It is the ONE book—of any—that I 
would wish you to read. Give me ONE book you would like me to read.

What you say about Behe is second-hand. It does not originate in your own 
individual judgment of what he has written. Until you have first-hand 
experience of his arguments, I will not take seriously this group-putdown. 

Behe is a quirky, good-humoured, friendly, highly published scientist. He can 
go and has gone head to head with the most brilliant hard evolutionists. As an 
impartial judge of a debate, I would say he wins easily as much as he loses.

You're making me become an anti-evolutionist!

But the Le Fanu book, it is a marvel. Left the deepest impression on me.

It is marked up more than any other book I have read.

Our differences—here, elsewhere—still don't create any tension. You may be all 
right: Behe may be an idiot. I may be an idiot for thinking he is not an idiot. 
I hope not.

Meanwhile:

The Ascent of Man from knuckle-walking chimp to upright human seems so logical 
and progressive as to be almost self-evident, yet it conceals events that are 
without precedent in the whole of biology. The only consolation would be that 
man must have evolved *somehow*, but then the hope of understanding *how* would 
seem to evaporate with the revelation of the near-equivalence of the human and 
chimp genomes. There is nothing to suggest the major genetic mutations one 
would expect to account for the upright stance or that massively enlarged 
brain—leading the head of the chimp Genome Project to concede somewhat limply: 
'Part of the secret is hidden there, we don't know what it is yet.' Or as a 
fellow researcher put it, rather more bluntly: 'You could write everything we 
know about the genetic differences in a one-sentence article'. . .So while the 
equivalence of the human and chimp genomes provides the most tantalizing 
evidence for our close relatedness, it offers not the slightest hint of how 
that evolutionary transformation came about—but rather appears to cut us off 
from our immediate antecedents entirely. The archeological discoveries of the 
last fifty years have, along with Lucy and Turkana Boy, identified an estimated 
twenty or more antecedent species, and while it is obviously tempting to place 
them in a linear sequence, where Lucy begat Turkana boy begat Neahderthal man 
begat *Homo sapiens*, that scenario no longer holds. Instead we are left with a 
bush of many branches—without there being a central trunk linking them all 
together. (pp. 47-48-Le Fanu)

I like that word chuncks—I can taste the chocolate chunks inside my dessert. 
Chuncks: it is a neologism that I have decided to put into existence as 
indicating how Curtis and Robin will proceed on this matter of evolution, 
science, and religion.

No, Michael Behe, he's up for the challenge, Curtis. A very learned scientist 
despite his stupid doubts about macroevolution.

Remember: The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 Thanks for taking this whole thing in chuncks.  We should just pick and 
 choose what really interests us out of that huge manifesto.  I will answer 
 more later but I wanted to say that I am familiar with Behe and think it is 
 hilarious that he is an actual biologist causing such a ruckus.  
 
 Science is a team sport and that is a good thing because individuals are 
 often highly motivated to believe some things that are not true.  Behe had 
 the same chance any other scientist has had to make his case to his peers and 
 he has failed.  No matter how cool his ideas may appear to those of us who 
 are not experts in the field, his theories have not panned out among the 
 scientists who we rely upon as a culture to check out assertions like his.  
 Although the rogue guy who is right when everyone else is wrong, makes an 
 appealing dramatic character for the rest of us, this is not usually how 
 science grows.  I know that there are abundant conspiracy theories about how 
 all the rest of the scientists gang up on guys like Behe,  but I beleive it 
 is more likely that if he had good evidence for his argument, many other 
 theistic scientists would jump on board and help him flesh out the thoery.  
 This has not happened. His motivations for swimming against 

[FairfieldLife] violent crime victimizations declined by 13% in 2010

[shukra69]

violent crime victimizations declined by 13% in 2010

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/newsroom/pressreleases/2011/BJS_PR-091511.htm

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[authfriend]

How about consciousness squared as a term for Self-
reference? Consciousness times itself, IOW...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 So if we take the C squared as a constant, and assume it to be Unlimited or 
 Pure Consciousness*, the E = MC squared equation is then rendered as Energy, 
 or Thought, Equals Mass times Consciousness squared, or Action reflecting 
 Pure Consciousness. 
 
 Next, writing the equation with Pure Consciousness closer to Thought, it 
 becomes, Thought Supported By Pure Consciousness Equals Action, [T/C = A], or 
 Yogastah Kuru Karmani.
 
 * It should be noted that Pure Consciousness is an approximation in  the 
 equation, using the vast possibilities inherent in the value of Consciousness 
 squared, to approximate Pure Consciousness.  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
   Constant, a particular constant, the speed of light.  But you knew that, 
   right?  
  
  * * * Constant-- beautiful, Mark! No, I really know nothing. But yes, 
  within the body of manifestation there may be one relative Constant, the 
  light-awareness of I AM, ever balancing between creation and destruction 
  :-) 
  
  Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  I may not get that far, but I keep thinking I should rework your torus a 
  little.  My guess is it could be reworked in a lot of ways.
  
  * * * You're probably right! Being pretty close to fundamental, it must 
  find many, many ways to rework itself to express apparent differentiation.
 

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[RoryGoff]

Ah, outward stroke! So perhaps we can see our white-hole (inner destroyer, 
outer creator) as our simple thought-pattern/Pater impressing on our external 
golden equator (outward half of Soul/Sol, light-consciousness aware of itself: 
outer creation) and then flipping as action into black-hole matter/Mater 
(outer destroyer, inner creator) to collapse into our central singularity-point 
(inward half of Soul/Sol light-consciousness: inner I AM particle or 
creature) which thus experiences the action-reaction incarnate effect of our 
own thought...a beautiful feedback mechanism. 

From the inside, Love-Being is the black-hole, Consciousness is the I AM 
golden light-singularity or Solar furnace, and Active Bliss is the white-hole; 
from the outside, Love-Being is the white-hole, Consciousness is the THAT 
ALONE IS golden light-disc or light-equator, and Active Bliss the black-hole. 
The destruction of the inner is the creation of the outer, and vice versa: 
Each viewpoint negates and complements the other.

*L*L*L*

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Inward stroke dude. Same deal. Was talking about the outward one. All good, 
 Over and out there.:-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  * * Could be, Jim! I like to see it psychologically as  Energy (Bliss or 
  Spirit) is Mass (gravity-Love or Body) times Consciousness or Awareness 
  (Soul) squared, or Aware of ItSelf: that is, we digest a Solid other into 
  our Solar, Soular I AM furnace by knowing it through Love as our Self, 
  thereby converting it into pure Energy or Bliss -- HA! :-D
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
  
   So if we take the C squared as a constant, and assume it to be Unlimited 
   or Pure Consciousness*, the E = MC squared equation is then rendered as 
   Energy, or Thought, Equals Mass times Consciousness squared, or Action 
   reflecting Pure Consciousness. 
   
   Next, writing the equation with Pure Consciousness closer to Thought, it 
   becomes, Thought Supported By Pure Consciousness Equals Action, [T/C = 
   A], or Yogastah Kuru Karmani.
   
   * It should be noted that Pure Consciousness is an approximation in  the 
   equation, using the vast possibilities inherent in the value of 
   Consciousness squared, to approximate Pure Consciousness.  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 Constant, a particular constant, the speed of light.  But you knew 
 that, right?  

* * * Constant-- beautiful, Mark! No, I really know nothing. But yes, 
within the body of manifestation there may be one relative Constant, 
the light-awareness of I AM, ever balancing between creation and 
destruction :-) 

Mark Landau m@... wrote:
I may not get that far, but I keep thinking I should rework your torus 
a little.  My guess is it could be reworked in a lot of ways.

* * * You're probably right! Being pretty close to fundamental, it must 
find many, many ways to rework itself to express apparent 
differentiation.
   
  
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:


 Agreed. That's why Peter Wallce needs someone to interview him who does not 
 interrupt. Just when he got into a very interesting bit this fellow jumps in 
 from the left and effectively stops a very interesting flow of knowledge. 
 Just having a fellow like that there who was friendly with Maharishi AND 
 Ananda Mayi Ma is reason enough for me to consider making a stop in Fairfield 
 soon.


* * * Do! :-)

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[RoryGoff]

* * That's it, Judy! (IMHO)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 How about consciousness squared as a term for Self-
 reference? Consciousness times itself, IOW...
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  So if we take the C squared as a constant, and assume it to be Unlimited or 
  Pure Consciousness*, the E = MC squared equation is then rendered as 
  Energy, or Thought, Equals Mass times Consciousness squared, or Action 
  reflecting Pure Consciousness. 
  
  Next, writing the equation with Pure Consciousness closer to Thought, it 
  becomes, Thought Supported By Pure Consciousness Equals Action, [T/C = A], 
  or Yogastah Kuru Karmani.
  
  * It should be noted that Pure Consciousness is an approximation in  the 
  equation, using the vast possibilities inherent in the value of 
  Consciousness squared, to approximate Pure Consciousness.  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
Constant, a particular constant, the speed of light.  But you knew 
that, right?  
   
   * * * Constant-- beautiful, Mark! No, I really know nothing. But yes, 
   within the body of manifestation there may be one relative Constant, the 
   light-awareness of I AM, ever balancing between creation and destruction 
   :-) 
   
   Mark Landau m@... wrote:
   I may not get that far, but I keep thinking I should rework your torus a 
   little.  My guess is it could be reworked in a lot of ways.
   
   * * * You're probably right! Being pretty close to fundamental, it must 
   find many, many ways to rework itself to express apparent differentiation.
  
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[maskedzebra]

 Me too, since I make my living as an editor!

Ah, the mystery of the name authfriend suddenly is explicable to me. I always 
wondered about that—but didn't want to embarrass myself by asking since it 
occurred to me: perhaps it should be *obvious* why Judy has used this name. 

But you see I never got it.

Now I do.

I think I speak at least for some of us, Judy, when I say: You work like a 
brain surgeon. Cutting out carefully all the cancerous tumours. To prevent 
intellectual or moral metastasis. Mind you, some of your patients do not 
necessarily agree to be operated on—but I notice one thing especially: once 
that have gone under the knife, they rarely make any protest. Or if they do, it 
is short-lived.

And they always avoid addressing the specific and exact location of your cuts.

Excepting Curtis. (But I have not quite followed the science of that conflict.)

By the way, I don't take anaesthetic—if you ever decide to apply your scalpel 
on me.

Never knew there was an editor among us.

No mercy, Judy. Please.

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 One that we conservatives have already lost on is
 sound byte (for bite). I see the former far 
 more often than the latter.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
   * * * Thanks, Judy. Yes, I have seen this mutation more
   frequently as of late, but wouldn't personally call it
   nearly mainstream yet.
  
  Dunno what their criteria are. It probably says somewhere
  on the site.
  
   I sometimes tend to be a bit conservative, though, when it
   comes to language.
  
  Me too, since I make my living as an editor! The more lax
  things get, the closer I am to being out of a job. ;-)
  Actually I find myself becoming more permissive as I near
  retirement, when I'll no longer have to be responsible
  for resisting change...
  
   (And I don't see why one can't toe a party line; even in
   that context toe still makes at least as much sense as
   tow to me: actually more so, given the war/parade
   antecedents of toeing the line, and with politics being a
   perennial favorite display of bellicose ceremony...)
  
  On the other hand (foot?), tow the party line does
  convey the sense of a burden, something one has to lug
  around. But the referent of that metaphor is a little
  off; you can't really tow a line. You can only tow
  something on the end of a line.
  
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
 snip  Jerry was treated that way, with suspicion that he
 wouldn't tow the latest party line when he was at MIU.
 
 * * Editor's note -- toe the line is the accepted form of this 
 idiom, though your variant conjures up interesting images! :-)

An increasingly common variant, actually. Interesting
discussion here (including examples from journalism, and
a justification of the variant, especially when used
with party line):

http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/72/tow/

Tow the line is classified by this site as nearly
mainstream.

Curtis, or anyone who digs language, should find this
blog fascinating. Explanation of the term eggcorn:

http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/about/

A similar eggcorn that I see frequently is tough road
to hoe:

http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/73/road/
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: IS WALL STREET DRIVING WORK HUNGER

[Bhairitu]

There is a protest on Wall Street today. It was supposed to begin at 3PM 
EDT. It is being streamed online here but so far the feed keeps getting 
interrupted. You probably read nothing about it in the MSM and there is 
an unconfirmed report that Twitter has block tags associated with the 
protest. I guess Amerika is going full bore Naziesque now.
http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

On 09/17/2011 12:16 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
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 In the last five years, the price of commodities like rubber, corn, and
 cotton have doubled, crashed, and then quadrupled. Is this a typical
 tango between limited supply and growing demand? Or have central banks
 and investors pumped the commodities markets with extra juice that makes
 their gyrations more violent?


 In July, the St. Louis Fed looked at this very question. This
 synchronization of price waves across many commodities (see above) might
 suggesthttp://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/re/articles/?id=2122
 that our commodity price boom is a bubble driven primarily by near-zero
 interest rates and excessive speculation in commodity futures markets.
 But it's more likely that market fundamentals are driving the high price
 of agricultural products and other resources, for at least three
 reasons:


 1) Supply shocks: The 47 percent increase in wheat prices last year was
 largely attributable to drought in Russia and China and to floods in
 Canada and Australia, the Fed reported. High cotton prices stemmed from
 floods in China, the world's largest producer, and Pakistan, its
 fourth-largest.

 2) 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:

  Me too, since I make my living as an editor!
 
 Ah, the mystery of the name authfriend suddenly is explicable
 to me. I always wondered about that—but didn't want to embarrass
 myself by asking since it occurred to me: perhaps it should be 
 *obvious* why Judy has used this name. 
 
 But you see I never got it.

No earthly reason you should have. I didn't actually
choose it as a handle; it's just the first part of
my Yahoo email address. I had opened the Yahoo account
years ago to use for business purposes; I called my
freelance editorial business The Author's Friend, so
authfriend was just a contraction. Then it became my
handle willy-nilly when I signed up for FFL on Yahoo
Groups.

 Now I do.
 
 I think I speak at least for some of us, Judy, when I say:
 You work like a brain surgeon. Cutting out carefully all the
 cancerous tumours. To prevent intellectual or moral
 metastasis. Mind you, some of your patients do not
 necessarily agree to be operated on—but I notice one thing 
 especially: once that have gone under the knife, they rarely
 make any protest. Or if they do, it is short-lived.

Fortunately my clients tend not to protest either. But
they've *solicited* me to operate on them and have to
pay me for doing so, so I guess it's not quite the same
thing.

 And they always avoid addressing the specific and exact location
 of your cuts.
 
 Excepting Curtis. (But I have not quite followed the science of
 that conflict.)

Very long saga, of interest really only to Curtis and me.

 By the way, I don't take anaesthetic—if you ever decide to
 apply your scalpel on me.
 
 Never knew there was an editor among us.
 
 No mercy, Judy. Please.

OK. Shorter, simpler sentences, fewer clauses.

That'll be $500, please. ;-)



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  One that we conservatives have already lost on is
  sound byte (for bite). I see the former far 
  more often than the latter.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
   
* * * Thanks, Judy. Yes, I have seen this mutation more
frequently as of late, but wouldn't personally call it
nearly mainstream yet.
   
   Dunno what their criteria are. It probably says somewhere
   on the site.
   
I sometimes tend to be a bit conservative, though, when it
comes to language.
   
   Me too, since I make my living as an editor! The more lax
   things get, the closer I am to being out of a job. ;-)
   Actually I find myself becoming more permissive as I near
   retirement, when I'll no longer have to be responsible
   for resisting change...
   
(And I don't see why one can't toe a party line; even in
that context toe still makes at least as much sense as
tow to me: actually more so, given the war/parade
antecedents of toeing the line, and with politics being a
perennial favorite display of bellicose ceremony...)
   
   On the other hand (foot?), tow the party line does
   convey the sense of a burden, something one has to lug
   around. But the referent of that metaphor is a little
   off; you can't really tow a line. You can only tow
   something on the end of a line.
   
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
  snip  Jerry was treated that way, with suspicion that he
  wouldn't tow the latest party line when he was at MIU.
  
  * * Editor's note -- toe the line is the accepted form of this 
  idiom, though your variant conjures up interesting images! :-)
 
 An increasingly common variant, actually. Interesting
 discussion here (including examples from journalism, and
 a justification of the variant, especially when used
 with party line):
 
 http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/72/tow/
 
 Tow the line is classified by this site as nearly
 mainstream.
 
 Curtis, or anyone who digs language, should find this
 blog fascinating. Explanation of the term eggcorn:
 
 http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/about/
 
 A similar eggcorn that I see frequently is tough road
 to hoe:
 
 http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/73/road/
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[Mark Landau]

Wow, are you kidding?  So much for loyalty.  You're gonna let Sal dictate our 
interaction and laud her to the skies?  What kind of man are you?  Canadian?  
Let's undo everything that happened between us right now.  Ready, set, go back 
to your pre-Mark condition.
And where did sexuality come from in all this?  Perhaps that was Sal's intended 
innuendo, but it sure wasn't based in reality.  Or are you saying that it was 
and then denying it in a subsequent post?
I, as you probably know from my earlier response, read it differently--the 
written word can be so hard to read, if you will, and I can be dense--sexuality 
didn't even occur to me till I read this.  (Of course what could lend itself 
better to such an interpretation than I'm glad you like it. That goes for both 
of us.)  It was more like FFL: unlimited vituperation always welcome, but 
please, anything cozy is barely tolerable...  No lovefests (Why, oh Judy, is 
this not an accepted word or phrase?  Isn't it common?) allowed, sexual or 
otherwise.  But where does this come from?  Those who crave only to vent their 
pain?
Anyhoo, piss ant, better back off.  Someone else might not like it.  And I'll 
withhold any insights I might have into you, too, as I have just done.  Better 
all around that way.
(Sal, you are good.  Wanna get a room together somewhere?  But I'd better be 
careful here.  As previously stated, I'm not even sure if you're a man or a 
woman...)

On Sep 17, 2011, at 10:53 AM, maskedzebra wrote:

 Your objective sensitivity and discretion scares me, Sal—awesome. The 
 Brokeback thing—I didn't realize it, but definitely it was there. Sad, 
 really. But your fast (and functional) wit has saved me. I am pulling back on 
 the Mark thing. I just have to remember: Go deeper, Robin: remember: Sal is 
 around. She plumbs the depths of things like this. Be careful.
 
 And so I will be from now on, Sal. You're most dazzling than Michael's first 
 moonwalk.
 
 Too much sunshine. Love ya, Baby Sal.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:
 
  Would you two like to get a room together
  somewhere?
  Sal
  
  On Sep 17, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Mark Landau wrote:
  
   I'm glad you like it. That goes for both of us. But then what comes next? 
   I won't, I must must admit, be reading all your posts. But if I do feel I 
   see something in you, did you just give me permission to post it here 
   (not, necessarily, that it will happen)? And I agree about Peter, all 
   that you say here. 
   
   On Sep 16, 2011, at 11:57 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
   
   But you will understand why I must break this off here (LW).
   
   I can feel even in this moment your consciousness upon me—and I like it.
   
   Robin 
  
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[whynotnow7]

Nice description - like that Yin Yang Symbol thingie! :-)



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 Ah, outward stroke! So perhaps we can see our white-hole (inner destroyer, 
 outer creator) as our simple thought-pattern/Pater impressing on our external 
 golden equator (outward half of Soul/Sol, light-consciousness aware of 
 itself: outer creation) and then flipping as action into black-hole 
 matter/Mater (outer destroyer, inner creator) to collapse into our central 
 singularity-point (inward half of Soul/Sol light-consciousness: inner I AM 
 particle or creature) which thus experiences the action-reaction incarnate 
 effect of our own thought...a beautiful feedback mechanism. 
 
 From the inside, Love-Being is the black-hole, Consciousness is the I AM 
 golden light-singularity or Solar furnace, and Active Bliss is the 
 white-hole; from the outside, Love-Being is the white-hole, Consciousness is 
 the THAT ALONE IS golden light-disc or light-equator, and Active Bliss the 
 black-hole. The destruction of the inner is the creation of the outer, and 
 vice versa: Each viewpoint negates and complements the other.
 
 *L*L*L*
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  Inward stroke dude. Same deal. Was talking about the outward one. All good, 
  Over and out there.:-)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
   * * Could be, Jim! I like to see it psychologically as  Energy (Bliss or 
   Spirit) is Mass (gravity-Love or Body) times Consciousness or Awareness 
   (Soul) squared, or Aware of ItSelf: that is, we digest a Solid other 
   into our Solar, Soular I AM furnace by knowing it through Love as our 
   Self, thereby converting it into pure Energy or Bliss -- HA! :-D
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
   
So if we take the C squared as a constant, and assume it to be 
Unlimited or Pure Consciousness*, the E = MC squared equation is then 
rendered as Energy, or Thought, Equals Mass times Consciousness 
squared, or Action reflecting Pure Consciousness. 

Next, writing the equation with Pure Consciousness closer to Thought, 
it becomes, Thought Supported By Pure Consciousness Equals Action, [T/C 
= A], or Yogastah Kuru Karmani.

* It should be noted that Pure Consciousness is an approximation in  
the equation, using the vast possibilities inherent in the value of 
Consciousness squared, to approximate Pure Consciousness.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  Constant, a particular constant, the speed of light.  But you knew 
  that, right?  
 
 * * * Constant-- beautiful, Mark! No, I really know nothing. But yes, 
 within the body of manifestation there may be one relative Constant, 
 the light-awareness of I AM, ever balancing between creation and 
 destruction :-) 
 
 Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 I may not get that far, but I keep thinking I should rework your 
 torus a little.  My guess is it could be reworked in a lot of ways.
 
 * * * You're probably right! Being pretty close to fundamental, it 
 must find many, many ways to rework itself to express apparent 
 differentiation.

   
  
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent video by Peter Wallace

[whynotnow7]

If you get that far, come out to California for a visit!:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  Did you know this guy Peter before? Just curious, because he seems normal 
  enough. Perhaps it was the propensity of all of those governors to toot 
  their horns in the political environment around Maharishi that has (overly) 
  sensitized you for any hint of this behavior when you watch something like 
  this. I don't know. 
  
  As for the TM teacher next to him, he almost seemed like a minder from a 
  totalitarian regime, placed next to Peter to ensure he continued to hew to 
  the party line. The other guy's facial expressions were disconcerting and 
  amusing at the same time, as if he always wanted to be reflecting the deep 
  truth of what Peter was saying, intellectually. At one point, after the 
  camera pulled back and Mr. TM Teacher insinuated himself into the frame, 
  I had to watch it with my hand covering his face, as his agitations were 
  seriously distracting.
 
 
 Agreed. That's why Peter Wallce needs someone to interview him who does not 
 interrupt. Just when he got into a very interesting bit this fellow jumps in 
 from the left and effectively stops a very interesting flow of knowledge. 
 Just having a fellow like that there who was friendly with Maharishi AND 
 Ananda Mayi Ma is reason enough for me to consider making a stop in Fairfield 
 soon.

[FairfieldLife] Another pair of sandals for sale (was Re: Merudanda/Sandals)

[whynotnow7]

Yeah, perfect! Thanks for the tweak - that provides for many more 
possibilities, even transcendence, worked into the equation - takes it further. 
Excellent!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 How about consciousness squared as a term for Self-
 reference? Consciousness times itself, IOW...
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  So if we take the C squared as a constant, and assume it to be Unlimited or 
  Pure Consciousness*, the E = MC squared equation is then rendered as 
  Energy, or Thought, Equals Mass times Consciousness squared, or Action 
  reflecting Pure Consciousness. 
  
  Next, writing the equation with Pure Consciousness closer to Thought, it 
  becomes, Thought Supported By Pure Consciousness Equals Action, [T/C = A], 
  or Yogastah Kuru Karmani.
  
  * It should be noted that Pure Consciousness is an approximation in  the 
  equation, using the vast possibilities inherent in the value of 
  Consciousness squared, to approximate Pure Consciousness.  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
Constant, a particular constant, the speed of light.  But you knew 
that, right?  
   
   * * * Constant-- beautiful, Mark! No, I really know nothing. But yes, 
   within the body of manifestation there may be one relative Constant, the 
   light-awareness of I AM, ever balancing between creation and destruction 
   :-) 
   
   Mark Landau m@... wrote:
   I may not get that far, but I keep thinking I should rework your torus a 
   little.  My guess is it could be reworked in a lot of ways.
   
   * * * You're probably right! Being pretty close to fundamental, it must 
   find many, many ways to rework itself to express apparent differentiation.