Re: [FairfieldLife] A Message From Advaita State

2014-12-16 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 2:32 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Message From Advaita State   A Message From Advaita State (ASSES) || |||| A

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives

2014-12-16 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Ya talkin' about WillyTex?  Looks likehe now pestering The Peak. :-D  How deeply joyous for both of us, 'tis indeed the season of glad tidings! The question of how long he can last there

[FairfieldLife] TV reviews: Marco Polo

2014-12-16 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm still making my way through this series, and even kinda enjoying it in a prurient way, but I do feel the need to pass along a more critical article that kinda nails its failings (below). As I remember, the person who first mentioned this new series on FFL mentioned it in the same breath

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives

2014-12-16 Thread Duveyoung
Yeah, it's to nail down Nisargadatta's take on whether consciousness, after death of the body, is yet maintained within some sort of physicality I know not of. Astral nervous system? Nisargadatta's so out of the person business and, too, so clear that perfect nothingness is sentient and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives

2014-12-16 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just curious, do you remember the first time you saw Marshy and if so what was it like? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives   Yeah, it's to nail

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Message From Advaita State

2014-12-16 Thread Duveyoung
Really? That's your best shot, Turq? That's your big play? I am so much worse than anything anyone here has yet accused me of being. So much worse. I have failed in just about every human way possible. I retired in 1998 from society just because of such failures. You think you can add to

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Message From Advaita State

2014-12-16 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A Message From Advaita State   But awareness is not consciousness has more validity than anything I've ever seen you post, and that's the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives

2014-12-16 Thread Duveyoung
I first saw Maharishi in 1971 -- Humboldt -- One month course. I was a mess. Big mood maker. Totally thinking I was cool and set for greatness. First time: Not sure if it was on the stage or if it was when I handed him a flower as he walked into the building. He looked me in the eyes, and I

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Message From Advaita State

2014-12-16 Thread Duveyoung
Go ahead, put me down. Pleases ya, does it? And by the way, my writing, such as it is, has gotten me retired very comfortably, thank you. 17 years now without having to suck up to someone. And still churning out the residual nickles. How's your writing income doing for you? Still working

[FairfieldLife] Bill Burr: Emails from Psychotic Women

2014-12-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey Barry, check this one out. Whaddya think? Where do you rate this on a humor scale of 1-5? Bill Burr - Emails From Psychotic Women https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGxCQB7xpH4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGxCQB7xpH4 Bill Burr - Emails From Psychotic Women

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Burr: Emails from Psychotic Women

2014-12-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
P.S. I didn't listen to all of it (yet) - hope it isn't too off-colour. If so, I'll delete the post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emily.mae50@... wrote : Hey Barry, check this one out. Whaddya think? Where do you rate this on a humor scale of 1-5? Bill Burr - Emails From

[FairfieldLife] Dale Borglum: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 12/16/2014

2014-12-16 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Bill Burr: Emails from Psychotic Women

2014-12-16 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I can't find it in me to even finish this one. Sorry, but there is something in the tone of his voice (not to mention the things he says) that just screams Misogynist to me. I could be wrong, and he could be one of those radio guys who only badraps women for the ratings, but I'm so turned off

Re: [FairfieldLife] TV reviews: Marco Polo

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
It's just good TV. I also think the storylines are a bit of a metaphor about our current state of affairs. You can say a lot of things if you shroud it in pseudo history. Usually I'm not too big on period pieces but the series is entertaining. On 12/16/2014 05:54 AM, TurquoiseBee

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives

2014-12-16 Thread inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
My first meetings with Maharishi were unplanned and pleasant. I was on TTC Arosa in '75 Being a country-boy from WI and in Arosa in June it was like a second spring and I took opportunities to go gallivanting in the Alps. One time I returned from a walk to find Maharishi had flown in on

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Message From Advaita State

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
By any logic awareness and consciousness can not be mutually exclusive. The argument has it's semantic problems as you can not have awareness without being consciousness. And what is being meant by awareness? The senses? But it's all not worth worrying about. My exploration with Advaita

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I wouldn't be too worried about death. You prepare for it every night when you go to sleep. For all we know this life may be nothing but an amusement park ride. On 12/16/2014 06:48 AM, Duveyoung wrote: Yeah, it's to nail down Nisargadatta's take on whether consciousness, after death of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] TV reviews: Marco Polo

2014-12-16 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, both series can be considered entertaining and nothing else, if you are talking about adult viewers who actually *know* their history and thus understand that these TV plots are often as far from it as humanly possible. But now think about the teenagers who can't even find the Yucatan or

[FairfieldLife] First meetings with MMY (was Re: Marco Polo Arrives)

2014-12-16 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
My first encounter with Maharishi was at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles in 1967, and I came away *not* so much impressed with him as I was by something he said, which in retrospect is kinda poignant. What I remember most about the day is that someone in the audience got up and asked a

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Message From Advaita State

2014-12-16 Thread Duveyoung
By any logic means you're using the dictionary meanings. BAH. I'm contending that Nisargadatta is giving us new meanings and trying his best to use mere words when they must necessarily fall short. Yes, in the dictionary, we find very similar meanings for the two words. But Nisargadatta is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Humor and Self-Deception

2014-12-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thank you Eustace for the 60 Minutes link. I watched the show - a good plug. Jon Kabat-Zinn is looking peaceful. :) If Anderson Cooper can surrender his mobile devices and keep coming back to his breath, than so can I. And, I practiced this morning and I do feel calmer. If it is good enough

Re: [FairfieldLife] Bill Burr: Emails from Psychotic Women

2014-12-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I couldn't take it either - skipped through it and it didn't get any better - stereotypical clap trap. I posted it because a 30-minute stand up routine by comic Bill Burr was referenced as what the participants in the study on humor and self-deception watched. People who scored high on

Re: [FairfieldLife] TV reviews: Marco Polo

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Then there is the remake of Broadchurch as Gracepoint which pretty much followed the script of the original except for the ending. That's a bit controversial given that the series wasn't renewed though there is a second season of Broadchurch starting in February. On 12/16/2014 09:01 AM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Message From Advaita State

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I also read Nisargadatta too as well as his student's books. That was in the late 1990s. I guess if one is still in serial consciousness these issues would be of a concern. But after awhile they do indeed become mental masturbation and essence of the teaching inconsequential. Just be the

Re: [FairfieldLife] TV reviews: Marco Polo

2014-12-16 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I watched both, and enjoyed both. Interesting scenario for a remake -- same writer, same showrunner, at least one cast member in common, and equally good. Given my rants in the past on this forum against remakes, I found that I actually (gulp!) enjoyed Gracepoint more than Broadchurch. A large

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Message From Advaita State

2014-12-16 Thread Duveyoung
I find that re-reading increases my clarity -- guess I'm still learning. Haven't had any light experiences since TT days. From the little I can remember, they seem to agree with my present ways of describing Advaita. My theory is that understanding is grown. We grow our nervous systems,

Re: [FairfieldLife] First meetings with MMY (was Re: Marco Polo Arrives)

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I might cut him some slack in that it took some time for him to find how lame westerners can be and they do need a nanny. :-D There's so much about MMY that if you have spent any time around Indians and particularly hear other Indians speak of western society as well as the silliness of many

Re: [FairfieldLife] Humor and Self-Deception

2014-12-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: seerdope@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ... In theory, theory and practice

[FairfieldLife] Awareness versus Consciousness

2014-12-16 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The human mind cannot parse infinity, or infinities. The awareness versus consciousness issue is the goad for the 'path of enlightenment'. It shows up in various guises. Reality versus illusion Absolute versus relative Consciousness versus 'pure' consciousness Silence versus thought

Re: [FairfieldLife] TV reviews: Marco Polo

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Broadchurch was a bit dry but not as bad as some BBC series. I find with some my mind drifts and I have to concentrate hard on the show. A local Brit friend tried to get us to watch Hinterland because it was shot in his hometown. The pace was very slow and disinteresting so I survived one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Humor and Self-Deception

2014-12-16 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for your reply. What? You were expecting more? No, that's it. Thanks for your reply. What were you hoping for? From: emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:54 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Message From Advaita State

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
That's too bad after sticking with TM all these years. As MMY would have said you didn't get the goods. He wouldn't have said it but probably thought you should have moved on and tried something else. Perhaps Shiva mantra might have worked better. There are some techniques out there that

[FairfieldLife] Life on Mars?

2014-12-16 Thread salyavin808
This will be rather amazing if true... Nasa finds evidence of 'life on Mars' http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nasa-finds-evidence-of-life-on-mars-9929510.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nasa-finds-evidence-of-life-on-mars-9929510.html Nasa finds evidence

[FairfieldLife] Re: Two Trillion Trees to Save the World

2014-12-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What a worthy project. Talk about solution-oriented - corporate sponsors, global relations - excellent. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seerdope@... wrote : Two Trillion Trees to Save the World: Video

Re: [FairfieldLife] Humor and Self-Deception

2014-12-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
An answer to the following question in yes/no format. Were the responses to the questions consistent with the integrity of Barry Wright, as you perceive him? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Thanks for your reply. What? You were expecting more?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Awareness versus Consciousness

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
But why worry about it? Just do sadhana and see where it goes. If one technique doesn't deliver try another. Don't let the politics of an organization control you. By all definition I started meditating at age 4 when I asked my mother where the end of the sky was and she told me it was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Awareness versus Consciousness

2014-12-16 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Who said to worry? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : But why worry about it? Just do sadhana and see where it goes. If one technique doesn't deliver try another. Don't let the politics of an organization control you. By all definition I started meditating at

[FairfieldLife] Good development between India+Russia re Yoga [1 Attachment]

2014-12-16 Thread email4you mikemail4...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
​http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/joint-statement-on-the-visit-of-russian-president-vladimir-putin-to-india-full-text-633140From: Joint Statement on the Visit of Russian President Vladimir Putin to India: Full Text Point 33: « 33. India and Russia .../... will encourage cooperation to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives

2014-12-16 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re But I'm a math joke. Need a smart person for this. Anyone?: Not me. I came across Spencer-Brown's Laws of Form in the library one time. I read the first few pages and put it back on the shelf. Dry-as-dust symbolic logic interspersed with gnomic, zen-like comments. Spencer-Brown

Re: [FairfieldLife] Awareness versus Consciousness

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Not that people on FFL have been nitpicking these issues for ages. I guess they feel better nitpicking than exploring enlightenment. ;-) On 12/16/2014 12:09 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Who said to worry? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : But

Re: [FairfieldLife] Good development between India+Russia re Yoga

2014-12-16 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What the hell does Swami Brahmananda have to do with Putin and the thug who is in the driver's seat in India? From: email4you mikemail4...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: mikemail4...@yahoo.com mikemail4...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:06 PM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Good development between India+Russia re Yoga

2014-12-16 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oil, gas, nuclear, rare earths and biotech crops is what these two are slavering over - that yoga/ayurveda crap is in there for Modi to suck up to the yogis in the country and their many voting followers. From: email4you mikemail4...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Awareness versus Consciousness

2014-12-16 Thread Duveyoung
See? See? NOW THIS IS A PROPER FFL RESPONSE. I might sorta disagree with a lot of it, but man o man does it give you a challenge to shore up your axioms.or change. Nice. I don't think I'm a cultist -- may not ever actually have been one in my true-believer days -- narcissism protects

Re: [FairfieldLife] First meetings with MMY (was Re: Marco Polo Arrives)

2014-12-16 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I only jist seem him one time. I was over at that thar MIU and we wuz on a course, it was that Taste of Utopia course and we had jist had some kinder meeting where that feller what used to be some kind-a general or sergeant major or somethin' was talking to us about what kinder programs they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives

2014-12-16 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re Duveyoung: Nisargadatta's so out of the person business and, too, so clear that perfect nothingness is sentient and eternal, that I truly do not think he cared if the soul has metaphysical staying power. It was all illusion to him. He was a heavy smoker till his dying day. When asked

Re: [FairfieldLife] First meetings with MMY (was Re: Marco Polo Arrives)

2014-12-16 Thread feste37
I was there too, MJ, at that very moment! Hell, we might even have been sitting next to each other! I experienced MMY's presence as an extraordinary and quite unexpected peacefulness that settled all over me. It was quite wonderful, and unlike anything I had experienced before. All the niggling

[FairfieldLife] Re: Awareness versus Consciousness

2014-12-16 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What I wrote was a discussion, not a prescription. By your own admission, narcissism would be your main stumbling block. We all tend to believe what we think is true, but how often does that work out? Agreeing and disagreeing is just giving yourself strokes. By the way, I have never done a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Good development between India+Russia re Yoga

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Russians have been into yoga for some time. But the bigger news is that the Ruble is getting crushed in this new cold war and they've raised interest rates in Russia to 17%. Ouch! And Russia might get pissed enough to stop providing us with uranium which we need for our nuke power plants.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 12/16/2014 02:56 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re Duveyoung: Nisargadatta's so out of the person business and, too, so clear that perfect nothingness is sentient and eternal, that I truly do not think he cared if the soul has metaphysical staying power. It was all

[FairfieldLife] More BS for MJ

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
/Why This Company Sent Poop to 30,000 People for Black Friday// / http://time.com/3634443/cards-against-humanity-poop-black-friday/

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Wed 17-Dec-14 00:15:02 UTC

2014-12-16 Thread FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 12/13/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 12/20/14 00:00:00 229 messages as of (UTC) 12/17/14 00:02:24 45 TurquoiseBee turquoiseb 35 Bhairitu noozguru 22 Duveyoung 20 emily.mae50 18 Michael Jackson mjackson74 15 s3raphita

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Awareness versus Consciousness

2014-12-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
We were also responding to another one of Edg walks into a bar moments. IOW, it was as if Edg was walking into a bar, waving his arms and shouting and the clientèle saying WTF! Of course if it really was a bar he would have been promptly shown the door. :-D On 12/16/2014 03:12 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives

2014-12-16 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re The extra weight probably lead to his heart condition which eventually killed him.: Something I've noticed (and was predictable and predicted) is that the anti-smoking backlash and indoor smoking bans have at least some responsibility for the scary increase in obesity levels in the West.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Life on Mars?

2014-12-16 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As 99 per cent of the methane produced on Earth is generated by biological processes it looks like H G Wells may have been on the right track after all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This will be rather amazing if true... Nasa finds evidence of

[FairfieldLife] If you have a pulse, you'll LOVE this!

2014-12-16 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Derby the dog: Running on 3D Printed Prosthetics http://youtu.be/uRmoowIN8aY http://youtu.be/uRmoowIN8aY Derby the dog: Running on 3D Printed Prosthetics http://youtu.be/uRmoowIN8aY See how unique, custom-3D printed prosthetics allow derby the dog to run for the first time. View

[FairfieldLife] 60 Minutes: Mindfulness

2014-12-16 Thread eustace10679
View online. Mindfulness http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/mindfulness/ http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/mindfulness/ Mindfulness http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/mindfulness/ Anderson Cooper puts down the mobile devices to meditate and report on what it’s like to try to ...

[FairfieldLife] Re: If you have a pulse, you'll LOVE this!

2014-12-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Love it, love it, love it.

[FairfieldLife] Holier than thou?

2014-12-16 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I see that early followers of MMY commonly referred to Maharishi as His Holiness. (At least amongst themselves. Do any FFLifers who actually met Maharishi ever remember addressing him in person as Your Holiness?) Now the Queen of England is properly addressed as Her Majesty? So is she

[FairfieldLife] How does one decide if a person's testimony is valid?

2014-12-16 Thread Duveyoung
What can I do to test these statements? Nisargadatta The scriptures say so, but I know nothing about it. I know myself as I am; as I appeared or will appear is not within my experience. It is not that I do not remember. In fact there is nothing to remember. Reincarnation implies a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Life on Mars?

2014-12-16 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The methane could be coming from microbes underneath the ground. The rovers should find more interesting facts as long as they keep operating on the planet. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : As 99 per cent of the methane produced on Earth is generated by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Life on Mars?

2014-12-16 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : As 99 per cent of the methane produced on Earth is generated by biological processes it looks like H G Wells may have been on the right track after all. Funnily enough, they did this experiment in the '70s with the Viking lander

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives

2014-12-16 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re salyavin808: The problem here is the metaphors taking themselves too seriously. You probably think that's ducking the question but it's just avoiding getting pulled into the endless cycle of ever more mysterious sophistry. We