Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~

2015-04-07 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This is an interesting question on many levels, Wayback, so I'll riff on it a little bit, on several levels. On the first -- surface -- level, I think there is a case to be made that *most* spiritual teachers wind up consciously or unconsciously emulating *their* teachers' acts. That is

[FairfieldLife] Travolta defends Scientology...

2015-04-07 Thread salyavin808
But he hasn't seen Going Clear... John Travolta breaks silence on Scientology doc Going Clear http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3028330/The-church-brilliant-John-Travolta-breaks-silence-Scientology-expos-Going-Clear-refuses-watch-documentary.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: R.I.P. John Renbourn

2015-04-07 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : We two, of course, will recall that as being the theme tune of the BBC series Take Three Girls. One thing that strikes me when I watch footage from back then is that all the performers are professional musicians committed to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Travolta defends Scientology...

2015-04-07 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
How many TB TMers have actually read 'Robes Of Silk, Feet Of Clay?' Show of hands. See? Almost no one.  :-), but it's really true. People who are True Believers always *know* subconsciously that they ARE True Believers, and avoid looking at anything that they intuitively know will shatter the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Travolta defends Scientology...

2015-04-07 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : How many TB TMers have actually read 'Robes Of Silk, Feet Of Clay?' Show of hands. See? Almost no one. :-), but it's really true. People who are True Believers always *know* subconsciously that they ARE True Believers, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Travolta defends Scientology...

2015-04-07 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Note to readers: in this silk robe there are NO descriptions of any sex acts between the author and the Maharishi - it's all about feet positioning and wearing silk robes and saris. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : How many TB TMers have actually read 'Robes Of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Travolta defends Scientology...

2015-04-07 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
You seem to be fascinated, almost addicted, to news about various cults. Go figure. This is probably the result of being forced into a cult yourself - put into a trance-induction state and then brain-washed for years to the point of losing touch with reality. It can be traumatic when you get

Re: [FairfieldLife] Travolta defends Scientology...

2015-04-07 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
There nothing negative in Robes of Silk - the author was in love with the Maharishi and he may or may bt, have been in love with Judith. It's a love story - you are supposed to read the book BEFORE you post your comments. LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another one Bites the Dust

2015-04-07 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Never pass up an opportunity to use a tragedy if you think it will help you win a religious debate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Too bad he didn't have Marshy's knowledge so he could-a averted the danger before it arose. But what can you expect from a

[FairfieldLife] Yoga, Religion and Schools

2015-04-07 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Its not TM, but the issues are the same: Attorneys Square Off in School Yoga Case |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Attorneys Square Off in School Yoga CaseAttorneys squared before a panel of judges Wednesday in an appeals case concerning an Encinitas Union School District (EUSD) yoga program

Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~

2015-04-07 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
So, how is that solo-auditing coming along? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : This is an interesting question on many levels, Wayback, so I'll riff on it a little bit, on several levels. So, many questions - so few answers. This may be an accurate description, if

[FairfieldLife] Another one Bites the Dust

2015-04-07 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Too bad he didn't have Marshy's knowledge so he could-a averted the danger before it arose. But what can you expect from a Muktananda sycophant, birds of a feather and all that - can't wait for the apologists to start making excuses for him. Signs of closure at ashram |   | |   | |   |   |   |

[FairfieldLife] Meditation on Campus

2015-04-07 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Dunno if this has been posted here yet, unfortunately highlights MUM along with other meditation programs on college campuses. The rise of meditation on college campuses |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | The rise of meditation on college campusesMeditation has quietly been taking place on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another one Bites the Dust

2015-04-07 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Oh my Gawd! Another tantric, kundalini yogi of touch yoga gets caught having sexual relations with some of his students. This is just outrageous. There's nothing like a hot, sweaty gym with female bodies moving all around into abnormal positions and poses that make you just want to forget

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation on Campus

2015-04-07 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
According to the statistics, over 39 percent of people meditate weekly and Buddhists 61 percent. Apparently almost everyone meditates to a certain degree. Meditation works for many people if not taken to extremes, turning TM into a cult. You tried to make a simple relaxation technique your

[FairfieldLife] Re: R.I.P. John Renbourn

2015-04-07 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Pentangle - Light Flight https://youtu.be/d9gCN9-Jnfg https://youtu.be/d9gCN9-Jnfg Pentangle - Light Flight https://youtu.be/d9gCN9-Jnfg From the BBC special c.'70. Enjoy. View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/d9gCN9-Jnfg Preview by Yahoo ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Was anyone else out there watching Better Call Saul?

2015-04-07 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I've been watching it the day later method on VUDU, so I won't be seeing the season finale until tonight. I thought it was an amusing show but one of the best I don't know. American Odyssey was still a broadcast network show but went out on a limb that usually wouldn't have been allowed on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another one Bites the Dust

2015-04-07 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah you are right, I just happened to recognize his name and knew that he was a Muktananda devotee  - supposedly Baba was the one who initiated him into whatever you have to get to give out shaktipat. Just look him up, there is various stuff about him on the net, Russell Kruckman. From:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another one Bites the Dust

2015-04-07 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I don't see anything in the article about a connection to Muktananda. Where did you find that? On 04/07/2015 08:34 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Too bad he didn't have Marshy's knowledge so he could-a averted the danger before it arose. But what can you

[FairfieldLife] Was anyone else out there watching Better Call Saul?

2015-04-07 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I ask because I've just finished watching the last episode of this first season for the third time. It's a work of art, a masterpiece, one of the best hours of television I've ever seen, start to finish.  The Dalai Lama's got nothing on me.  - Jimmy McGill It's as if someone finally managed to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another one Bites the Dust

2015-04-07 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
As I understand it there were a number of people who were made babas and allowed to give shaktipat. It's not really a difficult thing at all. Some of those have fallen away from what remains of Muktananda's organization, not just from the sexual allegations but from the kerfuffle over the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga, Religion and Schools

2015-04-07 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Appeals court upholds yoga program in Encinitas public schools http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-appeals-court-yoga-20150403-story.html http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-appeals-court-yoga-20150403-story.html Appeals court upholds yoga program in Encinitas public

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another one Bites the Dust

2015-04-07 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
...he was invested as a Mahamandaleshwar of the Mahanirvani Akhara by Mahamandaleshwar Vishveshwarananda Maharaj.. Shankarananda (Shiva Yoga) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shankarananda_%28Shiva_Yoga%29 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another one Bites the Dust

2015-04-07 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
The connection is Bhagawan Nityananda of Kerala. According to what I've read, Bhagavan left no official successor, so in a way, both Swami Muktananda AND Swami Shankarananda are both posers. Nityananda probably had nothing to do with giving any shaktipat to anyone or appointing anyone to

Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~

2015-04-07 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re I like the idea that the last thing you give up is your idea of God: Man's last and highest parting occurs when, for God's sake, he takes leave of God. Meister Eckhart (AD 1260 – 1328), Christian mystic and theologian. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was anyone else out there watching Better Call Saul?

2015-04-07 Thread waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I too am nearly done Better Call Saul. Wonderful.

Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~

2015-04-07 Thread waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks, Xeno, for your always thoughtful reply. I will read some Anthony DeMello. I like the idea that the last thing you give up is your idea of God (not that it is the last thing, but that you will give it up). I have always thought that MMY and other gurus who might be genuinely

Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~

2015-04-07 Thread Duveyoung
Somewhere around page 432 in MMY's Gita, he says that going into unity is a choice, and only the devotee and God are to be part of that decision, and LET NO ONE JUDGE THAT DECISION. It's okay to not take the last step. Don't have a Gita handy to find the quote. Not that MMY was correct

[FairfieldLife] Signs of Alien Life Will be Found by 2025

2015-04-07 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
NASA scientist predicts it. But can we actually communicate with them? That's another question. Signs of Alien Life Will Be Found by 2025, NASA's Chief Scientist Predicts http://news.yahoo.com/signs-alien-life-found-2025-nasas-chief-scientist-212655192.html

[FairfieldLife] Can Rand Paul Win as President of the USA?

2015-04-07 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In astrological terms, NO. He was born under the sign of Cancer. Under Nadi astrology rules, his 10th house lord Mars is placed in Cancer, the debilitation point for Mars. So, in general, people will perceive him as an angry man or politician. As such, he will not get the people's support

Re: [FairfieldLife] Signs of Alien Life Will be Found by 2025

2015-04-07 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
There are signs of alien life coming across the border by the thousands!   From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 5:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Signs of Alien Life Will be Found by 2025  

[FairfieldLife] Re: ~~~~~~~~~~ about friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~

2015-04-07 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re What I'd do is find a completely different dynamic, one in which the teacher could teach *without ever being perceived as a teacher*: Those old Zen stories always appealed to me (and no - I don't understand them any more than anyone else does!). Although I suspect that a real-life,

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Wed 08-Apr-15 00:15:11 UTC

2015-04-07 Thread FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 04/04/15 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 04/11/15 00:00:00 182 messages as of (UTC) 04/07/15 23:53:13 29 TurquoiseBee turquoiseb 20 richard 19 salyavin808 18 Bhairitu noozguru 16 Michael Jackson mjackson74 12 LEnglish5 8

[FairfieldLife] Re: ~~~~~~~~~~ about friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~

2015-04-07 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re He [MMY] did have a great sense of humor.: Yes, to be fair to Maharishi, he was dubbed the giggling guru. H. I wonder what Barry will say to that . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71@... wrote : An enlightened comedian/teacher. I like it. Laughing all the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Travolta defends Scientology...

2015-04-07 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The first time for Maharishi and me as a man and woman is still a very private moment . . . He struck me as not being a very experienced lover . . . he just hugged me and kissed me with great enthusiasm and I felt his desire. The first time we both kept our clothes on and engaged in a lot of

[FairfieldLife] Re: ~~~~~~~~~~ about friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~

2015-04-07 Thread waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
An enlightened comedian/teacher. I like it. Laughing all the way there. What fun. And it does remind me of some great moments around MMY - you saw them too. Laugh out loud fun stuff. He did have a great sense of humor. Adyashanti seems pretty careful about the whole guru business. It

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another one Bites the Dust

2015-04-07 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What else could anyone expect from Western gurus except a bastardized idea of enlightenment? Western sycophants get sucked into such pernicious spirituality because they were raised with the basic Christian belief system (even if they were raised as atheists): 1. You are born into a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Travolta defends Scientology...

2015-04-07 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I don't know if your analogy applies are not. Married couples often spend more of their daily lives apart than together. My reading of Campbell's point was that there was no significant amount of time that he was aware of of where Maharishi was alone with just one person. Everyone was clamoring

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ~~~~~~~~~~ about friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~

2015-04-07 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I will answer this one first, since s3ra anticipates the answer. :-) I have encountered a number of spiritual teachers -- some of whom I might actually accuse of being enlightened or as close to it as I've ever seen -- who were really funny. Maharishi would not be one of them. *He* was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Travolta defends Scientology...

2015-04-07 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
So -- yet again -- the reaction an admitted True Believer has to someone describing something about Maharishi that he doesn't like is She's LYING. Lawson couches it in weasel language (My chosen expert says it couldn't have been true so it couldn't have been true), but the message is still

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ~~~~~~~~~~ about friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~

2015-04-07 Thread salyavin808
The only time Marshy made me laugh was in an interview in Israel. A journalist was trying to pick holes in his ideas and used a story that he'd learnt TM himself on recommendation from his mother who was a devotee, but he had abandoned it after a few days and not had the heart to tell her.

[FairfieldLife] Brontosaurus returns!

2015-04-07 Thread salyavin808
Sadly not literally Brontosaurus is back! New analysis suggests genus might be resurrected http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/apr/07/brontosaurus-is-back-new-analysis-suggests-genus-might-be-resurrected

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another one Bites the Dust

2015-04-07 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re There is no such thing as “enlightenment”: Are you claiming that if one could swap subjective states with the Buddha or Ramana Maharshi then the only *essential* difference (ignoring personal memories, cultural norms, etc) is that the so-called enlightened person would have a different

[FairfieldLife] Re: Travolta defends Scientology...

2015-04-07 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
...as I snuck back to my room. As Anthony Campbell, author of Seven States of Consciousenss, points out, he doesn't see how MMY could have carried on any kind of sexual affair during the time-in-question without many people being in on the secret, including himself. And Anthony Campbell

[FairfieldLife] Re: Travolta defends Scientology...

2015-04-07 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
[Anthony Campbell] doesn't see how MMY could have carried on any kind of sexual affair during the time-in-question without many people being in on the secret: Didn't Anthony Campbell write that many moons ago? I wonder if he still believes it? Even if Campbell does still believe it, we

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signs of Alien Life Will be Found by 2025

2015-04-07 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : NASA scientist predicts it. Bold prediction, I think they should change it to: If it exists we'll be able to detect traces of it but we won't know what it's like. But can we actually communicate with them? That's another