[FairfieldLife] THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread off_world_beings
65 cents a day over 10 years. $1.30 a day over 5 years. 2.60 a day over 2.5 years I drink more quickstop coffee than that. Cut down on one movie a week and its done. Not as bad as I thought. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Observance Day = Uposatha Day = Poya Day is Today ... !!!

2005-03-25 Thread Bhikkhu Samahita
Friends: Great Advantage by sheer good Habit: May many beings gain divine existence by following this ancient Buddhist habit of undertaking these 8 training-rules once weekly: 1. Panatipata veramani sikkhapadam samadiyamiI undertake the training-rule to avoidkilling

[FairfieldLife] Sri Aurobindo and the Indigo children

2005-03-25 Thread rgjcm
In his epic poem, Savitri, Sri Aurobindo vividly describes a new race of humanity emerging on Earth, as different from humans today as we have ever been to the evolutions that have preceded us: ...I saw them cross the twilight of an age, The sun-eyed children of a marvelous dawn, Great

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread rgjcm
Absolutely rightand what about the millions of people, rich and poor alike, who are willing to spend huge amounts in cigarettes, alcohol, etc...we always find the money for those, yet we don't want to pay much for a technique we could use for the rest of our lives... We could go on and on

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Paul Mason
If anyone wants to make a donation to the TMO they can, at any time. I was instructed at Maharishi Ashram for free. I have since made many donations to the movement. As far as I can gather there is no truth to the oft-repeated claim that it is traditional to charge for initiation into

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2005, at 6:59 AM, rgjcm wrote: Absolutely rightand what about the millions of people, rich and poor alike, who are willing to spend huge amounts in cigarettes, alcohol, etc...we always find the money for those, yet we don't want to pay much for a technique we could use for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2005, at 7:43 AM, Paul Mason wrote: SwaroopanandJi: This is a principle. A quotation from Goswami Tulsidas: The guru who charges or takes money from his disciples in return for initiation, steals disciples property and goes to damnable hell. Hi Paul: This is precisely what the

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread rgjcm
Interpretations of the Ramayana, authored by Goswani Tulsidas are many. The verse in question says that a guru who takes money from his/her chela without leading chela to self-knowledge goes to hell for sure. TM leads the chela to self knowledge. Or not? --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kevin/Shanti

2005-03-25 Thread shanti2218411
---Peter,I'm glad he got a chance to meet you.Fred's a former Air Force major who served as a navigator on a B52 bomber(think Dr.Strangelove). He's a long time meditator who lives down by you from Jan to June.A couple yrs back I turned him on to Sri Sri and the Kryia.He's been pretty faithful

[FairfieldLife] Death threats

2005-03-25 Thread rgjcm
During a trip to Scotland, New age guru Sri Sri Ravi Shankar casually mentioned while speaking to Edinburgh-based Evening News that he had received death threats from Islamic and went on to gleefully say that it doesn't concern me at all. Islamic militants have put me on a hit list, he told

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rgjcm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely rightand what about the millions of people, rich and poor alike, who are willing to spend huge amounts in cigarettes, alcohol, etc...we always find the money for those, yet we don't want to pay much

[FairfieldLife] Re: The indigo soul and the existential crisis

2005-03-25 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More at http://www.starchild.co.za/channel17.html#three Ok but how can I tell the difference between the upgrade and a stroke or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-03-25 Thread Patrick Gillam
I'm fickle. I used to eat this stuff up as corroboration that the Age of Enlightenment is on its way. No I see this future-focused thinking as potentially unhealthy. And I'm not rational in my bias. I enjoy having an astrological forecast done, which is future-focused, too (although it does

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Aurobindo and the Indigo children

2005-03-25 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rgjcm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In his epic poem, Savitri, Sri Aurobindo vividly describes a new race of humanity emerging on Earth, as different from humans today as we have ever been to the evolutions that have preceded us: ...I saw them cross

[FairfieldLife] Re: America is actually #1 in a health issue

2005-03-25 Thread rudrani
as for actual health care, i believe, that would be Ontario. sarvamangalam!.. rudrani To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The indigo soul and the existential crisis

2005-03-25 Thread rudrani
anonymousff forwarded [[Often, at the age of about 15 or 16, the young Indigo adult may go into a state of depression or neurotic behavior and begin manifesting destructive or self-destructive patterns of behavior. Sometimes these patterns may be only turned inwards, but often they can

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Patrick Gillam
If we're going to amortize the costs of education over the lifetime the knowledge is applied, elementary schools would charge parents $100,000 to teach little kids how to read. The same goes if we peg costs to the education's potential value. It's just not practical, culturally accepted

[FairfieldLife] Re: The indigo soul and the existential crisis

2005-03-25 Thread rudrani
m2smart4u2000 wrote [[Those of you who have decided to accept the upgrade at this time and become the first wave of Sixth Dimensional Humans, will probably have experienced some of the following symptoms:]] ** ok .. ill bite. [[Feeling Spaced out and Ungrounded.]] ** time, space certainly

[FairfieldLife] ..get even

2005-03-25 Thread peterklutz
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2005, at 10:10 AM, akasha_108 wrote: So it follows then that if a teacher does charge, he is offering the student a great blessing by creating a link to the student by which all the students sins are transmitted to the teacher. And folowing this logic if more money is charged,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Aurobindo and the Indigo children

2005-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2005, at 10:09 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: One thing about his vision of a new species: as I understand it, he was to lead the way in making the physical transition to this new species, but in the end I believe Aurobindo considered that he had not succeeded in doing this on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 25, 2005, at 10:10 AM, akasha_108 wrote: So it follows then that if a teacher does charge, he is offering the student a great blessing by creating a link to the student by which all the students sins are

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread akasha_108
Well, MMY used to use an analogy equating TM with building a house. So I think a 30 year nortgage is called for -- to be automaticaly deducted from ones checking account each month. So I think a 30 yr mortgage on TMO initiation is called for. At 10% down, $250, and at a 5% fixed rate, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Akasha 108 writes: Rick initiated Peter, who proclaims jivanmukti has arrived. Does Rick gain GREAT merit for that? But Rick also initiated Haiglin, hmmm, mixed bag of karma for that ? Tom T: He also gave me my intro and got me addicted. So, can we all say. It's all his fault Tom makes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Ammachi always imparts mantras without charge. Yeah I liked that about her. She initiated me into Kali and gave Shaktipat for free. Back then she used to talk in this kind of proto-Sanskrit and she was just in this ecstatic trance. Then we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/25/05 10:35 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akasha 108 writes: Rick initiated Peter, who proclaims jivanmukti has arrived. Does Rick gain GREAT merit for that? But Rick also initiated Haiglin, hmmm, mixed bag of karma for that ? Tom T: He also

[FairfieldLife] Educational Mortgages --- (was PRICE OF TM.)

2005-03-25 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we're going to amortize the costs of education over the lifetime the knowledge is applied, elementary schools would charge parents $100,000 to teach little kids how to read. The same goes if we peg costs

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akasha 108 writes: Rick initiated Peter, who proclaims jivanmukti has arrived. Does Rick gain GREAT merit for that? But Rick also initiated Haiglin, hmmm, mixed bag of karma for that ? Tom T:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/25/05 10:56 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akasha 108 writes: Rick initiated Peter, who proclaims jivanmukti has arrived. Does Rick gain GREAT merit for that? But Rick

[FairfieldLife] Cosmic Lap Dance

2005-03-25 Thread John
Hello, All There's a story in vedic literature which tells of Shiva embracing his wife Parvati, who was sitting on his lap, in front of wise men. Although out of the ordinary, the wise men who were gathered continued to watch and hear what Shiva had to say. Then a king who was riding on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread rudra_joe
and this is entirely against the canons of Indian culture and civilization.-yes, what he said!To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 3/25/05 6:44:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone wants to make a donation to the TMO they can, at any time. I was instructed at Maharishi Ashram for free. I have since made many donations to the movement.As far as I can gather there

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Aurobindo and the Indigo children

2005-03-25 Thread mark robert
From: Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 9:52 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Aurobindo and the Indigo children --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rgjcm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In his epic poem,

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread crukstrom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akasha 108 writes: Rick initiated Peter, who proclaims jivanmukti has arrived. Does Rick gain GREAT merit for that? But Rick also initiated Haiglin, hmmm, mixed bag of karma for that ? Tom

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Aurobindo and the Indigo children

2005-03-25 Thread rudra_joe
That's why progeny of the spiritual are required. - Original Message - From: markmeredith2002 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 9:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Aurobindo and the Indigo children I'm impressed with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread rudra_joe
How does this sin model work for TM teachers. Do they take on half ofthe sin of each student, the other half is taken on by "Internaional"?Maybe that explains why the TMO, and most of its teachers sort ofcrashed after the bom initiations days of the mid 70's. BothInternational and

[FairfieldLife] Prophets Conference

2005-03-25 Thread luzalma1
Hagelin Gets Raves, Standing Ovations at Prestigious Prophets Conference in Santa Monica; Will Speak at Next Five Conference Sessions A standing-room-only, overflow crowd of more than 1,000 conference participants cheered and leapt to their feet for three standing ovations during Dr. John

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prophets Conference

2005-03-25 Thread Rick Archer
I'm glad to hear this (because he's in my downline). Seems to me that if practical people took over and restructured the movement (although Bob B. wouldn't include John in that bunch) and cut out all the kooky stuff, the movement could bounce back and thrive. on 3/25/05 11:57 AM, luzalma1 at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread rudra_joe
Well, if this was the case at least someone could keep a checkbook on their moral value and upliftment in their world, but would it be the same as their real checkbook as the movement thinks? I guess only if one is selling air. I owe a hundredthousand bucks on my undergrad and so I'm

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pete Seeger

2005-03-25 Thread rudra_joe
Title: Pete Seeger Pretty - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Pete Seeger Apologies to Pete Seeger By Anon Where have all the pundits gone? Long time

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread luzalma1
Shankaracharya Swaroopanand Saraswati also disputes the validity of the religious title the Shankracharya of Kanchi holds. And note that the latter has the support of Ammachi and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, so go figure... - After a charge of murder, the Shankracharya of Kanchi has

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the best way for all of us initiators who have initiated for money over the years to make amends is to go out and teach at least as many people for free that you taught for a fee. No teaching for free is only the norm.

[FairfieldLife] Talk of the Nation: persistent vegetative states, etc.

2005-03-25 Thread l_b_shriver
NPR's Talk of the Nation Science Friday will discuss the clinical issues currently under debate in the Schiavo case—persistent vegetative states and minimal consciousness— at 1 pm today FF time. The program will also be available in the archive at NPR.org if you would like to hear it but

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Paul Mason
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luzalma1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shankaracharya Swaroopanand Saraswati also disputes the validity of the religious title the Shankracharya of Kanchi holds. And note that the latter has the support of Ammachi and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, so go

[FairfieldLife] Swami Swaroopanand Saraswati: a reliable source

2005-03-25 Thread luzalma1
http://deccanherald.com/deccanherald/dec042004/n20.asp Jayendra Saraswati is no Shankaracharya: Dwarka Shankracharya Lucknow, dhns: After a charge of murder, the Shankracharya of Kanchi has now to contend with a question on the validity of the religious title he holds. The aspersion was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prophets Conference

2005-03-25 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad to hear this (because he's [Hagelin] in my downline). Yes, I hear when he speaks, he places on the podium a three-piece folding picture frame, with pictures of GD, MMY and Rick. Rick, does he invite you up on

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I owe a hundredthousand bucks on my undergrad .. Perhaps thats what holding up Heaven on Earth. It won't happen until you fully pay back your loan. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prophets Conference

2005-03-25 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luzalma1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hagelin Gets Raves, Standing Ovations at Prestigious Prophets Conference in Santa Monica; Will Speak at Next Five Conference Sessions A standing-room-only, overflow crowd of more than 1,000 conference

[FairfieldLife] correction on Science Friday

2005-03-25 Thread l_b_shriver
Second hour. 2 pm today, FF time. L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/

[FairfieldLife] correction to correction

2005-03-25 Thread l_b_shriver
They fooled me. Starts now (1:20). L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Talk of the Nation: persistent vegetative states, etc.

2005-03-25 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NPR's Talk of the Nation Science Friday will discuss the clinical issues currently under debate in the Schiavo case—persistent vegetative states and minimal consciousness— at 1 pm today FF time. The program will also be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prophets Conference

2005-03-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/25/05 1:03 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad to hear this (because he's [Hagelin] in my downline). Yes, I hear when he speaks, he places on the podium a three-piece folding picture frame,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prophets Conference

2005-03-25 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had initiated him in his body cast in his school infirmary. wow, now thats a heavy duty kosha you had to deal with. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prophets Conference

2005-03-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/25/05 1:34 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had initiated him in his body cast in his school infirmary. wow, now thats a heavy duty kosha you had to deal with. He and Dr. Pete had been in a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread rudra_joe
We'll pay you to practice TM. Now that's a great fucking idea! I bet it still wouldn't work though. Too much suspicion. All the fundies would think satan was eloping. - Original Message - From: akasha_108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread rudra_joe
Perhaps thats what holding up Heaven on Earth. It won't happen untilyou fully pay back your loan. I was always an undermotivated under acheiver, Lord, why did you place this burden upon me? Could not someone help me pay back my loans and support heaven on earth? I prefer sponsors

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prophets Conference

2005-03-25 Thread rudra_joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote:I had initiated him in his body cast in his school infirmary.wow, now thats a heavy duty kosha you had to deal with. ---He never forgot it. It could have been his own personal dark retreat time?! Outer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prophets Conference

2005-03-25 Thread luzalma1
http://www.greatmystery.org/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, luzalma1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hagelin Gets Raves, Standing Ovations at Prestigious Prophets Conference in Santa Monica; Will Speak at

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Aurobindo and the Indigo children

2005-03-25 Thread mark robert
From: akasha_108 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Aurobindo and the Indigo children --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mark robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _ From:

[FairfieldLife] College lifestyle

2005-03-25 Thread Patrick Gillam
Has this been posted yet? I dedicate it to MDixon: From http://tinyurl.com/4yq7y (but it's a royal pain to sign in for access, so just read the complete article below) Pioneer Press Posted on Tue, Mar. 22, 2005 Campus lifestyle doing more damage than liberal profs LAURA BILLINGS One

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 3/25/05 12:39:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the best way for all of us initiators who have initiated formoney over the years to make amends is to go out and teach at

[FairfieldLife] Stephanie Oakes on TM

2005-03-25 Thread Bob Brigante
CBS News -- The Early Show The National Institutes of Health found that 80 to 90 percent of all illnesses are caused by stress, either directly or indirectly, Oakes says. Clearly, something more than positive thinking, counseling, morale boosters or even traditional exercise is needed.

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/25/05 10:56 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akasha 108 writes: Rick initiated Peter,

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/25/05 10:56 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prophets Conference

2005-03-25 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad to hear this (because he's in my downline). Seems to me that if practical people took over and restructured the movement (although Bob B. wouldn't include John in that bunch) and cut out all the kooky

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have taken a statement from a sworn enemy of Maharishi to prove your point, but it's not a point well-taken. Since you present yourself so well acquainted with the situation, perhaps you would explain

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2005, at 6:27 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: I don't hear other Shankaracharyas engaging in jealous condemnation of Maharishi, yet you take at face value what one Shankaracharya says as definitive. I have. Although I wouldn't call it jealousy, I'd call it disgust. That's not to say

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/25/05 5:32 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is some question at what point the alien walk-in took over, since Rick was clever enough to use heroin in the two weeks before he was initiated, rationalizing this as something easily metabolized, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prophets Conference

2005-03-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/25/05 5:37 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the Prophets Conference that Hagelin spoke at is the kooky stuff, part of the campaign to legitimatize the half-witted droolery of Ramtha. It used to be the TMO would get people like Buckminister Fuller to attend TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/25/05 5:46 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's just say, he acknowledged the guy had siddhis and was very psychic but one thing was clear: he was not very holy. Did he go into specifics? On the side if you prefer. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prophets Conference

2005-03-25 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/25/05 5:37 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the Prophets Conference that Hagelin spoke at is the kooky stuff, part of the campaign to legitimatize the half-witted droolery of Ramtha. It used

[FairfieldLife] Freemasons et al

2005-03-25 Thread peterklutz
Any comment on the Rocicrucians and their knowledge by MMY? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Freemasons et al

2005-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2005, at 7:29 PM, peterklutz wrote: Any comment on the Rocicrucians and their knowledge by MMY? Did you know I was a Freemasonic scholar? Ask something more specific. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Freemasons et al

2005-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2005, at 7:29 PM, peterklutz wrote: Any comment on the Rocicrucians and their knowledge by MMY? If you are asking if MMY ever commented on Freemasonry, I had heard he said this tradition was lost. I would think this probably came from Charlie Lutes era. I should also point out

[FairfieldLife] Re: California version of the latest message

2005-03-25 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message to Governors and Sidhas March 23, 2005 Le damn American imperialists: Area 7: Hawaii, Alaska and French Polynesia Please select your preferred Peace Palace location now by going to this link and

[FairfieldLife] Chopra weighs in on Shaivo

2005-03-25 Thread Vaj
Deepak Chopra was interviewed on CNN re: Terry Shaivo by Anderson Cooper--will most likely replay tonight. Just more proof: the movement has left the movement. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra weighs in on Shaivo

2005-03-25 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deepak Chopra was interviewed on CNN re: Terry Shaivo by Anderson Cooper--will most likely replay tonight. I don't have access to CNN. Can you give a brief summary of what he said? Alex To subscribe, send a message to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The indigo soul and the existential crisis

2005-03-25 Thread m2smart4u2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I'm indigo, so what? so is Michael Jackson. I guess he falls into the troubled teen category To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and

[FairfieldLife] HEYYY

2005-03-25 Thread off_world_beings
Heyyy, it looks all different. Wot up? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ *

[FairfieldLife] OK I'll Do it !

2005-03-25 Thread off_world_beings
Sign me up for the 2,000 dollars a month thing with the regular cut of the teaching price over and above that. (plus room and board?). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups

[FairfieldLife] Re: HEYYY

2005-03-25 Thread m2smart4u2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heyyy, it looks all different. Wot up? ME tooo and i don't like people changing this stuff To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra weighs in on Shaivo

2005-03-25 Thread Sal Sunshine
He believes disconnecting the tube was the right decision as she has no conscious awareness. He said a bit more than that but that was his main point, I believe. Sal On Mar 25, 2005, at 8:18 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: I don't have access to CNN. Can you give a brief summary of what he said?

[FairfieldLife] Re: HEYYY

2005-03-25 Thread at_man_and_brahman
The order of message on the Web site is now reversed, and there doesn't appear to be a way to look up a specific posting number now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Freemasons et al

2005-03-25 Thread Patrick Gillam
Vaj wrote: Did you know I was a Freemasonic scholar? Ask something more specific. Cripes, Vaj, I'm starting to worry about you. To be so erudite, you must be neglecting something in life. Food? Sleep? To your point, I don't have a specific question -- just the opposite. I'd like the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Freemasons et al

2005-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2005, at 10:05 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: Cripes, Vaj, I'm starting to worry about you. To be so erudite, you must be neglecting something in life. Food? Sleep? No, sorry to disappoint you. This is the way I have always been. I come from a family of Masons. I am also a member of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Educational Mortgages --- (was PRICE OF TM.)

2005-03-25 Thread Patrick Gillam
akasha_108 wrote: [interesting stuff snipped] Interesting ideas. The Ownership Society applied to education. Numerous econometric studies have shown that investment in human capital far exceeds investment in physical capital. (Even though investment in physical capital is also a great

[FairfieldLife] Re: HEYYY

2005-03-25 Thread at_man_and_brahman
You can look up a specific post # by typing it into the URL. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goddammit. This reminds me how I felt about the New Coke. L B S --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Freemasons et al

2005-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2005, at 10:40 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: Also, in the city I grew up in -- Montreal -- they have a really neat-looking Masonic Temple... Indeed--a very nice temple, and a huge French Masonic presence. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephanie Oakes on TM

2005-03-25 Thread shanti2218411
--- Ms Oates is seriously mistaken.Infact few if any diseases are solely caused by stress(although stress is a mediating factor in many diseases). The truth is the biggest single cause of disease is aging eg someone is many times more likely to get cancer at 80 then at 18.Reducing stress via

[FairfieldLife] Re: Freemasons et al

2005-03-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 25, 2005, at 7:29 PM, peterklutz wrote: Any comment on the Rocicrucians and their knowledge by MMY? Did you know I was a Freemasonic scholar? Ask something more specific. Ok. Do you know what they hid at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Freemasons et al

2005-03-25 Thread rudra_joe
Is MMY really a grade 33 Freemason? - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Freemasons et al On Mar 25, 2005, at 7:29 PM, peterklutz wrote: Any comment on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HEYYY

2005-03-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/25/05 9:03 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The order of message on the Web site is now reversed, and there doesn't appear to be a way to look up a specific posting number now. There's still a search messages box. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Kenny H
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 25, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: The only adaption that Maharishi has made to the Gurudakshina is to front-load it The thing is Bob--MMY never set himself up as a Guru. I thoroughly disagree with

[FairfieldLife] Re: HEYYY

2005-03-25 Thread at_man_and_brahman
That goes back, what, one hundred messages? Was worthless. Still is. Someone really needs to create a decent mining tool for this and enable creation of independent archives. Wish I had the programming skills. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 25, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: The only adaption that Maharishi has made to the Gurudakshina is to front-load it The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/25/05 11:56 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until you know that: Maharishi slept on the floor at the foot of Guru Dev's bed; people do not follow rigorous diets, but in fact choose what they want to eat; development of consciousness does not require any devotion to a guru;

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening --and My Three Suns

2005-03-25 Thread Rory Goff
Akasha, To tackle your questions on the traditional koshas or sheaths, we could maybe align the koshas with the chakras etc. as follows: (Purusha -- Crown chakra -- absolute; subtlest spirit) Self = Atman = Brow chakra unmanifest Avyakta (middle spirit) Bliss = Anandamaya kosha = Throat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening --and My Three Suns

2005-03-25 Thread Rory Goff
Correction -- in previous post, the Ahamkara (solar plexus) should be between Wisdom-Vijnanamaya kosha (heart) and the Manamaya kosha (navel), as below. And please note, placing these koshas at specific chakras is from Purusha's point of view only -- each kosha surrounds the entire body...

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Saturday - Pay Attention

2005-03-25 Thread The Daily Inspiration
Title: DailyPage_10 March 26, 2005 - Pay Attention In the cultivation of the mind, our emphasis should be not on concentration, but on attention. Concentration is a process of forcing the

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-25 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/25/05 11:56 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until you know that: Maharishi slept on the floor at the foot of Guru Dev's bed; people do not follow rigorous diets, but in fact choose what they

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