[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: Jimmy Stewart from Mars
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
Very good, Judy, but actually, Feste is in Twelfth Night, not King Lear. But you are right about the wisdom part. Feste is a very non-attached character in that play; he knows everything that is going on but belongs nowhere and doesn't care to. He also has the last word in the play -- another reason why he is a particular friend of mine . . . btw, your admirable attempt to hold the line on lie rather than lay is I fear doomed to failure. The battle has been lost and I see no way of reversing it. I am concentrating my efforts these days on off of, which I regard as an abomination on a par with . . . no, better not get into that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Feste is actually a German word meaning strong or mighty, as in Ein' feste Burg ist unser Gott (A mighty fortress is our God.) FWIW, Feste is also the name of Shakespeare's wisest Fool, the one who attends King Lear. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl no_reply@ wrote: 4) No, I do not agree that a poster's moniker detracts from the content of their post. Otherwise, I would have long ago been detracted from the insights of your posts -- intended and not --- by the similarity of your name and festing sore. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] msae lady pioneers to State
MSAE girls basketball team won regionals last night in triple overtime and will head to the state meet in march. Sophia Iwobi scored 49 pts. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 25, 2006, at 9:10 PM, authfriend wrote: Right: Vaj, isn't your scholarship as thin as a tart's negligee? We had the answer to that without your assistance, although you thoughtfully provide additional evidence in your current post. Since Vaj has carefully snipped both what he had written and my response, I'll restore them here so we can all see *why* he snipped them: No this is not why they were snipped. Of course it was. You have such a fertile imagination, shame you could not put it to better use! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 25, 2006, at 9:17 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Feb 25, 2006, at 6:33 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Good detective work, Judy. I guessed that Vaj's scholarship was as thin as a tart's negligee P.S.: No detective work required, BTW, other than a quick Google for the exact quote from Clementine's letter. The nature of the find is pretty common knowledge even among those who just dabble in this sort of thing. Interestingly, you left the key points out about the letter-- specifically what Clement says about the nature of the text itself. I wasn't writing a dissertation on the letter, merely correcting your gross misstatements. No merely interjecting your nit-picking on works I read 20 years ago. You read way too much into casual speech my dear! Hardly nitpicking, I'm afraid. Claiming we found Urmarkus when what we really found was a snippet quoted in a Clementine letter is a *huge* blooper, one a scholar would not make. If you had a question, you should ask. It had nothing to do with UFO's! :-) I had no questions, as you know, Vaj. Nor did I suggest the snippet had anything to do with UFOs. You're just like Barry. When you attempt to defend your disingenuity, all you do is provide more evidence for it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Just for the record, I have made no comment at all about oral sex. Would you look more favorably on homosexuals if they engaged only in oral sex and never in anal sex? And I keep forgetting to ask: In your opinion, do straight couples who engage in anal sex have a lifestyle that is not as good as those who do not? Are straight couples who engage in anal sex walking the road to hell? Judy, what portion of the AIDS problem in the Third World is directly due to anal intercourse? Non sequitur. Okay, it's a non sequitur...but could you please answer the fucking question? I believe you cited the statistic yourself a few posts back, so it's not only a non sequitur, it's a disingenuous question, one you know the answer to. Well, then, let me ask you this: do you therefore feel that straight couples who engage in anal sex without protection are walking on the road to hell? I have no idea who's walking on the road to hell and who isn't. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very good, Judy, but actually, Feste is in Twelfth Night, not King Lear. You are absolutely correct. So much for *my* scholarship! But you are right about the wisdom part. Feste is a very non-attached character in that play; he knows everything that is going on but belongs nowhere and doesn't care to. He also has the last word in the play -- another reason why he is a particular friend of mine . . . Shakespeare's Fools are extraordinary. I've often wondered whether Shakespeare was enlightened, and his Fools seem to me to suggest that he was. btw, your admirable attempt to hold the line on lie rather than lay is I fear doomed to failure. The battle has been lost and I see no way of reversing it. You could be right, but as an editor it's my dharma to continue the struggle. I am concentrating my efforts these days on off of, which I regard as an abomination on a par with . . . no, better not get into that. grin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Feste is actually a German word meaning strong or mighty, as in Ein' feste Burg ist unser Gott (A mighty fortress is our God.) FWIW, Feste is also the name of Shakespeare's wisest Fool, the one who attends King Lear. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl no_reply@ wrote: 4) No, I do not agree that a poster's moniker detracts from the content of their post. Otherwise, I would have long ago been detracted from the insights of your posts -- intended and not --- by the similarity of your name and festing sore. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch: Jimmy Stewart from Mars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What an apt way to describe him! Is that your description or the NYTimes'? It's the Times quoting Mel Brooks. By the way, one has to log in to read the article...any chance that someone could reproduce it here on our forum? Thanks... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/26/movies/26raff.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: msae lady pioneers to State
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MSAE girls basketball team won regionals last night in triple overtime and will head to the state meet in march. Sophia Iwobi scored 49 pts. Were you there? lurk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shakespeare's Fools are extraordinary. I've often wondered whether Shakespeare was enlightened, and his Fools seem to me to suggest that he was. Are you aware of some of the speculations about Shakespeare i.e. how he was one of the many inacarnations of St. Germaine. I have to admit, I am inclined to buy into it. It would help explain his remarkable skills. lurk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] apologies to foufou
I did not mean to offend. I'm sorry. Sometimes I am a little too rude. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
Shakespeare's plays were in fact written by the Earl of Oxford. They were certainly not written by the illiterate Shaksper from Stratford, who could barely sign his own name and appears to have been interested only in the acquisition of wealth, social status and property. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Shakespeare's Fools are extraordinary. I've often wondered whether Shakespeare was enlightened, and his Fools seem to me to suggest that he was. Are you aware of some of the speculations about Shakespeare i.e. how he was one of the many inacarnations of St. Germaine. I have to admit, I am inclined to buy into it. It would help explain his remarkable skills. lurk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] TMO sues unrecertified governor
From: scozzari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient List Suppressed:; Subject: Lawsuit - TMO vs Scozzari Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:16:03 -0500 Mike Scozzari 2241 SW 15 St., Deerfield Beach 33442 561-392-5418 Home As many have heard, I have been asked to cease and desist teaching TM by the TMO attorneys in Iowa. Their demands include that I destroy all teaching materials and that I no longer use their registered service marks for TM and Transcendental Meditation. With the new project for teachers to re-certify and teach, teachers who, like me, were made teachers for life by Maharishi, were all told we must no longer consider ourselves teachers. The re-certification course as you may have heard was $2K and $4 depending on how many people you have taught in the past 2 years for $2500 each student. Once completed, re-certified teachers were required to teach full time, meditate 7 hours per day, open up 5 spas, raise 1.5 million for a peace palace, go to Holland for a month and become a raja after which you would be required to wear robes and a crown and have others bow to you. Teachers were required to teach according to gender, males teach males, women teach women and all in a building with an east entrance (TMO websites detail the entire thing). Teachers were promised salaries of $2000 per month if nobody takes TM and $4000 a month if you teach 2. Three months after it's start all salaries were discontinued and teachers who quit their jobs had to find work once again. ++see Chandler letter below It's nonsense. Teachers like myself have not done anything wrong. Most on my list know I have continued to provide basic and advanced instruction and have maintained the traditional teaching. Every teacher knows what it's like to try and make a living teaching. I will never charge anyone $2500 - never! I would need cold water running through my veins! It's wrong and people don't deserve it. It makes perfect sense to me having taught over 4000 people, that teachers should be able to keep all the money for instruction encouraging students to then take TMO sponsored follow-ups like the TM- Sidhis and advanced techniques. This way everyone wins. Teachers need to make a living. When did the policymakers forget that? The fees today are 6 times what they were in 1993. I have invested a small fortune to keep teaching in the area since 1989. My Bell South bill is $150 per month. Recently my Bell South rep called to say he received a call from Joan Rothenberg who accused me of violating the TM trademark, that I was not legally allowed to do so and that she and her husband Stuart were the new teachers in Boca Raton. This quote appeared in my January 06 newsletter: Still the Same Maharishi has done something that his predecessors did not do. He provided a technique and a knowledge program while maintaining the ancient traditions. With all the research available, TM is still the best technique for relieving stress and developing inner potential. The packaging and marketing changes over time but the essential message remains the same: meditate and enjoy. When Coca Cola introduced New Coke, the public was split on what they preferred, new or old Coke. Old Coke was introduced as Classic Coke and remains the same today. Transcendental Meditation can be offered to the general population or the wealthy, no harm. But the essential teaching is here to stay. Keeping this teaching alive worldwide is the goal of all the teachers. Competition is good and if it leads to more people learning, no harm. As stated previously, our office teaches TM at reasonable rates. It's available for everyone. Please keep us in mind and know that we are here to stay. We hope you can join us for programs that enrich and refresh, inspire and expand. Take advantage of your membership and keep the teaching alive by meditating twice a day and radiating the benefits in your life. Mike Scozzari If Stuart Rothenberg and his wife want to teach TM, there is no reason to push the existing teachers aside. If the truth be told, I would ask Stuart why he moved from North Carolina to Lancaster, MA and fired the staff at the ayurvedic health center as well as ask Jay Glasser, MD to leave after years of medical service there. It's unfortunate. The directors called me to tell their story. The claims against me re trademark infringement are just the opinions of the TMO and their attorney. I can email you the attachments. No court order has been issued yet. IF AND WHEN I GET THE COURT ORDER, I will need to show the court the true details of my claim which will only cause the TMO to look foolish as each attorney has agreed with me. I have the support of certain media as well including a publicist with the San Francisco Examiner who would like to really go wide on this entire issue. She agreed nothing printed unless I say so. The TMO hates negative publicity. I think
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Shakespeare's Fools are extraordinary. I've often wondered whether Shakespeare was enlightened, and his Fools seem to me to suggest that he was. Are you aware of some of the speculations about Shakespeare i.e. how he was one of the many inacarnations of St. Germaine. I have to admit, I am inclined to buy into it. It would help explain his remarkable skills. Do you have a Web reference for St. Germaine? I don't know nuttin' about him, or about those speculations. I have to say, though, I'm not as interested in Shakespeare's identity, incarnational or historical, as I am in the physical entity who put the words on paper, if you see the distinction I'm making. Whoever he was, he was one hell of an incarnation. I'm inclined to think of him as the most significant all- round human genius of whom we have any record. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sues unrecertified governor
Ha, ha, ha, yes, I prefer the 'old coke', God help us all! Thank God I got TM when I did!! BillyG. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: scozzari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient List Suppressed:; Subject: Lawsuit - TMO vs Scozzari Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:16:03 -0500 Mike Scozzari 2241 SW 15 St., Deerfield Beach 33442 561-392-5418 Home As many have heard, I have been asked to cease and desist teaching TM by the TMO attorneys in Iowa. Their demands include that I destroy all teaching materials and that I no longer use their registered service marks for TM and Transcendental Meditation. With the new project for teachers to re-certify and teach, teachers who, like me, were made teachers for life by Maharishi, were all told we must no longer consider ourselves teachers. The re-certification course as you may have heard was $2K and $4 depending on how many people you have taught in the past 2 years for $2500 each student. Once completed, re-certified teachers were required to teach full time, meditate 7 hours per day, open up 5 spas, raise 1.5 million for a peace palace, go to Holland for a month and become a raja after which you would be required to wear robes and a crown and have others bow to you. Teachers were required to teach according to gender, males teach males, women teach women and all in a building with an east entrance (TMO websites detail the entire thing). Teachers were promised salaries of $2000 per month if nobody takes TM and $4000 a month if you teach 2. Three months after it's start all salaries were discontinued and teachers who quit their jobs had to find work once again. ++see Chandler letter below It's nonsense. Teachers like myself have not done anything wrong. Most on my list know I have continued to provide basic and advanced instruction and have maintained the traditional teaching. Every teacher knows what it's like to try and make a living teaching. I will never charge anyone $2500 - never! I would need cold water running through my veins! It's wrong and people don't deserve it. It makes perfect sense to me having taught over 4000 people, that teachers should be able to keep all the money for instruction encouraging students to then take TMO sponsored follow-ups like the TM- Sidhis and advanced techniques. This way everyone wins. Teachers need to make a living. When did the policymakers forget that? The fees today are 6 times what they were in 1993. I have invested a small fortune to keep teaching in the area since 1989. My Bell South bill is $150 per month. Recently my Bell South rep called to say he received a call from Joan Rothenberg who accused me of violating the TM trademark, that I was not legally allowed to do so and that she and her husband Stuart were the new teachers in Boca Raton. This quote appeared in my January 06 newsletter: Still the Same Maharishi has done something that his predecessors did not do. He provided a technique and a knowledge program while maintaining the ancient traditions. With all the research available, TM is still the best technique for relieving stress and developing inner potential. The packaging and marketing changes over time but the essential message remains the same: meditate and enjoy. When Coca Cola introduced New Coke, the public was split on what they preferred, new or old Coke. Old Coke was introduced as Classic Coke and remains the same today. Transcendental Meditation can be offered to the general population or the wealthy, no harm. But the essential teaching is here to stay. Keeping this teaching alive worldwide is the goal of all the teachers. Competition is good and if it leads to more people learning, no harm. As stated previously, our office teaches TM at reasonable rates. It's available for everyone. Please keep us in mind and know that we are here to stay. We hope you can join us for programs that enrich and refresh, inspire and expand. Take advantage of your membership and keep the teaching alive by meditating twice a day and radiating the benefits in your life. Mike Scozzari If Stuart Rothenberg and his wife want to teach TM, there is no reason to push the existing teachers aside. If the truth be told, I would ask Stuart why he moved from North Carolina to Lancaster, MA and fired the staff at the ayurvedic health center as well as ask Jay Glasser, MD to leave after years of medical service there. It's unfortunate. The directors called me to tell their story. The claims against me re trademark infringement are just the opinions of the TMO and their attorney. I can email you the attachments. No court order has been issued yet. IF AND WHEN I GET THE COURT ORDER, I will need to show the court the true details of my claim which will only cause the TMO to
[FairfieldLife] Praveen Shrivastava...anybody know whereabouts??
We were friends briefly when he was here going to college at UCLA, Los Angeles. (1972..) Anybody know his whereabouts? From India obviously and, I believe, he was MMY's nephew. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
In a message dated 2/25/06 8:12:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me ask it this way: Do you think they wanted to rape Lot's visitors because they were horny? In other words, was the point sexual gratification? Would it matter? Would the act be justified if it were just a power trip? Or justified if it were for shear pleasure?Was anybody trying to *justify* it?? Certainly not I.Can you answer the question, please? The men and boys of Sodomwanted Lot to bring out his guests so they could "know" them. Sounds like horniness to me. But that would be a guess on my part. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
In a message dated 2/25/06 8:49:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What a family. And what a great book from which to take instruction about family values and sexual mores! And what does that say about homosexuality in the eyes of God? At least Leviticus deals with the rest at a later place in the Bible as society evolves. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
Why would the Earl of Oxford not have wanted to take credit for the plays? Sal On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:31 AM, feste37 wrote: Shakespeare's plays were in fact written by the Earl of Oxford. They were certainly not written by the illiterate Shaksper from Stratford, who could barely sign his own name and appears to have been interested only in the acquisition of wealth, social status and property.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
In a message dated 2/26/06 12:13:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you know, if this stuff were in the Koran, the fundies would be using it as evidence of how bad Islam is... It probably is in the Koran. Much of the Bible is found in the Koran with a few variations and twists. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Grammar (was Re: Unusual laws)
--- feste37 wrote: btw, your admirable attempt to hold the line on lie rather than lay is I fear doomed to failure. The battle has been lost and I see no way of reversing it. I am concentrating my efforts these days on off of, which I regard as an abomination on a par with . . . no, better not get into that. A few years ago I noticed a sea change in the use of the contraction for there is. Now, routinely, people are saying there's whether they mean there is or there are. Anybody else notice this? Even radio journalists are saying things like, there's going to be many people who object to this usage. This kind of sweeping, all-of-a-sudden change among people who know better reinforces my belief that individuals are highly influenced by, if not in thrall to, collective consciousness. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
In a message dated 2/26/06 12:29:53 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Better yet: Billy Crystal's impersonation of Edward J. Robinson's biblical character from "The Ten Commandments": "Where's your Moses now? Where's your King of the Jews now?", done in classical Brooklynese... Billy Crystal is one of my favorites! I Liked his Yule Brenner impersonation going back and forth between the King of Siam and Ramases," So it shall be written, so it shall be, done etc etc etc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- MDixon6569 wrote: The men of Sodom tried to break into Lot's home to rape the guests and Angels blinded the men of Sodom to make their escape along with Lot's family. But not before Lot offers his daughters to the mob as an appeasement: See now, I have two virgin daughters. Please let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them what seems good to you. Only don't do anything to these men, because they have come under the shadow of my roof. (Genesis 19:8) And what daughters they are! After escaping Sodom and losing Mrs. Lot to God's wrath -- I guess, like a criminal, the Almighty doesn't like witnesses -- the girls realize they'll never find husbands, so the conspire to get pregnant by their dad in order to preserve the family line. They're holed up in a cave at the time. Lot's daughters get the old man so blind drunk that he doesn't realize he's having sex with them. The oldest daughter has the honors one night, and the second daughter the next. Thus both of Lot's daughters were with child by their father. (Genesis 19:36) I wonder how they explained the offspring to dad? Maybe they said those killer angels who offed Sodom came back and wed the daughters when Lot was shitfaced in the cave. What a family. And what a great book from which to take instruction about family values and sexual mores! you know, if this stuff were in the Koran, the fundies would be using it as evidence of how bad Islam is... * Muslims accept the authority and authenticity of the Old Testament just as Christians do: http://www.al-bushra.org/Madros/traditional.htm ...and Jews -- as well as Christians -- are people of the book (i.e. the Koran) but that doesn't stop most, if not all, governments of Muslim countries and the vast majority of Arabs and Muslims from wanting Israel and Jews dead. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Just for the record, I have made no comment at all about oral sex. Would you look more favorably on homosexuals if they engaged only in oral sex and never in anal sex? And I keep forgetting to ask: In your opinion, do straight couples who engage in anal sex have a lifestyle that is not as good as those who do not? Are straight couples who engage in anal sex walking the road to hell? Judy, what portion of the AIDS problem in the Third World is directly due to anal intercourse? Non sequitur. Okay, it's a non sequitur...but could you please answer the fucking question? I believe you cited the statistic yourself a few posts back, so it's not only a non sequitur, it's a disingenuous question, one you know the answer to. Well, then, let me ask you this: do you therefore feel that straight couples who engage in anal sex without protection are walking on the road to hell? I have no idea who's walking on the road to hell and who isn't. Oh, I see. I guess that's why you were asking that same question about members of groups with other sexual orientations in another post. I suppose you were genuinely curious, then, about who was and who wasn't on the road to hell, eh, and that's why you originally asked the question? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/26/06 12:29:53 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Better yet: Billy Crystal's impersonation of Edward J. Robinson's biblical character from The Ten Commandments: Where's your Moses now? Where's your King of the Jews now?, done in classical Brooklynese... Billy Crystal is one of my favorites! I Liked his Yule Brenner impersonation going back and forth between the King of Siam and Ramases, So it shall be written, so it shall be, done etc etc etc On one of his performance videos, his Edward J. Robinson routine is done right after his King of Siam routine. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
It just wasn't the thing for a nobleman to write plays for the public theaters, which were considered rather disreputable places. Writing plays was something lower-class people did. It was closer to a trade than an honorable profession, hence the word playwright, as in shipwright and wheelwright, that is, an artisan, a worker. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would the Earl of Oxford not have wanted to take credit for the plays? Sal On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:31 AM, feste37 wrote: Shakespeare's plays were in fact written by the Earl of Oxford. They were certainly not written by the illiterate Shaksper from Stratford, who could barely sign his own name and appears to have been interested only in the acquisition of wealth, social status and property. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have a Web reference for St. Germaine? I don't know nuttin' about him, or about those speculations. snip Whoever he was, he was one hell of an incarnation. I'm inclined to think of him as the most significant all- round human genius of whom we have any record. The buzz about St. Germaine is about as wild as you are likely to find. It makes for a great story whether it's true or not. I am not an expert by a long shot, but one version has St. Germain being the soul who discovered America as Christoper Columbus, writing the plays attritbuted to Shakespear, I believe as Thomas (?) Bacon, serving as our first US President as George Washington, and most recently as Guy Ballard of the St. Germaine Foundation, to name just a few. And it is said Ballards Wife, Edna, was previously Benjamen Franklin. I WILL SAY THIS, when you look at Photos of Guy and Edna, they bear a striking resemblence to these two historical figures. lurk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
On Feb 26, 2006, at 1:04 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:The "buzz" about St. Germaine is about as wild as you are likely to find. It makes for a great story whether it's true or not. I am not an expert by a long shot, but one version has St. Germain being the soul who discovered America as Christoper Columbus, writing the plays attritbuted to Shakespear, I believe as Thomas (?) Bacon, serving as our first US President as George Washington, and most recently as Guy Ballard of the St. Germaine Foundation, to name just a few. And it is said Ballards Wife, Edna, was previously Benjamen Franklin. I WILL SAY THIS, when you look at Photos of Guy and Edna, they bear a striking resemblence to these two historical figures. For a fascinating and authoritative investigation of the Comte St. Germaine, I highly recommend Raphael Patai's _The Jewish Alchemists_ which has an entire chapter on him. Fascinating! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/25/06 8:12:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me ask it this way: Do you think they wanted to rape Lot's visitors because they were horny? In other words, was the point sexual gratification? Would it matter? Would the act be justified if it were just a power trip? Or justified if it were for shear pleasure? Was anybody trying to *justify* it?? Certainly not I. Can you answer the question, please? The men and boys of Sodom wanted Lot to bring out his guests so they could know them. Sounds like horniness to me. But that would be a guess on my part. It's important to guess right if you're going to claim the Bible considers homosexuality a sin based on what happened to the men of Sodom, isn't it? (Which you did, several posts back, and as many religionists do.) In fact, there's a great deal of cultural, historical, and even textual evidence (from the story itself) that strongly suggests otherwise--i.e., that the men of Sodom weren't homosexual or even bisexual, and that the threatened rape was not a function of sexual desire on their part, but rather an attempt to intimidate Lot's visitors into leaving forthwith. Anal rape of men by men was a common means of intimidation and humiliation in biblical times, and still is in some areas today (including in prisons). The real sin of Sodom was that it was *inhospitable to people in need*. Again, historically and culturally, in a hostile desert environment, not to take in and care for strangers was considered a terrible breach, because it could put their lives at risk. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What a family. And what a great book from which to take instruction about family values and sexual mores! Leviticus deals with the rest at a later place in the Bible as society evolves. Cite some passages and I'll look them up. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Just for the record, I have made no comment at all about oral sex. Would you look more favorably on homosexuals if they engaged only in oral sex and never in anal sex? And I keep forgetting to ask: In your opinion, do straight couples who engage in anal sex have a lifestyle that is not as good as those who do not? Are straight couples who engage in anal sex walking the road to hell? Judy, what portion of the AIDS problem in the Third World is directly due to anal intercourse? Non sequitur. Okay, it's a non sequitur...but could you please answer the fucking question? I believe you cited the statistic yourself a few posts back, so it's not only a non sequitur, it's a disingenuous question, one you know the answer to. Well, then, let me ask you this: do you therefore feel that straight couples who engage in anal sex without protection are walking on the road to hell? I have no idea who's walking on the road to hell and who isn't. Oh, I see. I guess that's why you were asking that same question about members of groups with other sexual orientations in another post. I suppose you were genuinely curious, then, about who was and who wasn't on the road to hell, eh, and that's why you originally asked the question? I was genuinely curious what the person I was asking thought, yes. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 2/25/06 8:12:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, jstein@ writes: Let me ask it this way: Do you think they wanted to rape Lot's visitors because they were horny? In other words, was the point sexual gratification? Would it matter? Would the act be justified if it were just a power trip? Or justified if it were for shear pleasure? Was anybody trying to *justify* it?? Certainly not I. Can you answer the question, please? The men and boys of Sodom wanted Lot to bring out his guests so they could know them. Sounds like horniness to me. But that would be a guess on my part. It's important to guess right if you're going to claim the Bible considers homosexuality a sin based on what happened to the men of Sodom, isn't it? (Which you did, several posts back, and as many religionists do.) In fact, there's a great deal of cultural, historical, and even textual evidence (from the story itself) that strongly suggests otherwise--i.e., that the men of Sodom weren't homosexual or even bisexual, and that the threatened rape was not a function of sexual desire on their part, but rather an attempt to intimidate Lot's visitors into leaving forthwith. Anal rape of men by men was a common means of intimidation and humiliation in biblical times, and still is in some areas today (including in prisons). The real sin of Sodom was that it was *inhospitable to people in need*. Again, historically and culturally, in a hostile desert environment, not to take in and care for strangers was considered a terrible breach, because it could put their lives at risk. P.S.: From Luke, Jesus to his disciples: But if you go into a town, and the people don't welcome you, then go out into the streets of that town and say, 'Even the dirt (dust) from your town that sticks to our feet we wipe off against you. But remember that the kingdom of God is coming soon.' I tell you, on the judgment day it will be worse for the people of that town than for the people of Sodom. It appears that as far as Jesus was concerned, the sin of refusing hospitality was far worse than that of homosexuality. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Do you have a Web reference for St. Germaine? I don't know nuttin' about him, or about those speculations. snip Whoever he was, he was one hell of an incarnation. I'm inclined to think of him as the most significant all- round human genius of whom we have any record. The buzz about St. Germaine is about as wild as you are likely to find. It makes for a great story whether it's true or not. I am not an expert by a long shot, but one version has St. Germain being the soul who discovered America as Christoper Columbus, writing the plays attritbuted to Shakespear, I believe as Thomas (?) Bacon, Roger Bacon, most likely... serving as our first US President as George Washington, and most recently as Guy Ballard of the St. Germaine Foundation, to name just a few. Wasn't St. Germaine, *as* St. Germaine, active during the French Revolution? Or was that a different St. Germaine? And it is said Ballards Wife, Edna, was previously Benjamen Franklin. I WILL SAY THIS, when you look at Photos of Guy and Edna, they bear a striking resemblence to these two historical figures. lurk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
OK, even if that were the case, the profession became respectable and has been so for quite a while since. Wouldn't the Earl's descendants have wanted to set the record straight? Wouldn't they want their own ancestor to be known as the greatest playwright in history? And why would the Earl have picked someone illiterate to be his frontman? Wouldn't that have seemed sort of suspicious? And I'm still a bit confused as to how someone who is so illiterate all they can do is to sign their own name, becomes interested in the acquisition of wealth, social status and property to begin with? And how someone this low on the social scale made his situation so well-known that 400 years later people are still talking about it. Sal On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:54 AM, feste37 wrote: It just wasn't the thing for a nobleman to write plays for the public theaters, which were considered rather disreputable places. Writing plays was something lower-class people did. It was closer to a trade than an honorable profession, hence the word playwright, as in shipwright and wheelwright, that is, an artisan, a worker. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why would the Earl of Oxford not have wanted to take credit for the > plays? > > Sal > > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:31 AM, feste37 wrote: > > > Shakespeare's plays were in fact written by the Earl of Oxford. They > > were > > certainly not written by the illiterate Shaksper from Stratford, who > > could barely > > sign his own name and appears to have been interested only in the > > acquisition of wealth, social status and property. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- MDixon6569@ wrote: jpgillam@ writes: What a family. And what a great book from which to take instruction about family values and sexual mores! Leviticus deals with the rest at a later place in the Bible as society evolves. Cite some passages and I'll look them up. Thanks. There's an excellent (and very balanced) rundown of the various interpretations of the primary passage, Leviticus 18:22, here: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh.htm It should be quite an eye-opener to those who have always assumed the verse condemns homosexuality. But then there's also Paul in Romans 1:26-27... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: apologies to foufou
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did not mean to offend. I'm sorry. Sometimes I am a little too rude. No problem. I didn't really take it as an insult. A guy named foufou doesn't insult easily. When people ask me who I am, I answer, Je suis (I am) foufou. Which gets us to Decartes: Je pense donc je suis (I think therefore I am). I say, Je pense, donc je suis foufou Thats my philosophy -- to assume I am crazy from my thoughts -- or in other words, to start by assuming all my thoughts are crazy. Guilty until proven innocent. This requires me to prove that a particular thought has merit and is not foufou before I banter it about. Which is just the opposite of most people, who assume that every thought they have is true -- and near genuius -- just because it appeared. Which is a more crazy way to live life? Another point on Decartes. He helped consolidate the view that our identities are tied to our thoughts: essentially I am because I have thoughts. A repercussion of this is that when people's thoughts are criticized, people actually feel they are being criticized. This is exacerbated when they are indentified with an ego, a thinker, a doer . Thus, a thought is criticized and by chain reaction, their already small identity gets even smaller. So they fight back. Often irrationally. They don't ponder or attack the criticism, but the criticizer. And what is the trip of this St. Germaine guy using all of these aliases? Shakesphere, Washington, etc. Jeez, why doesn't the guy use his real name. Why does he hide behind aliases? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: apologies to foufou
On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:12 PM, foufou_fl wrote: And what is the trip of this St. Germaine guy using all of these aliases? Shakesphere, Washington, etc. Jeez, why doesn't the guy use his real name. Why does he hide behind aliases? Probably because he was Jewish before the emancipation of the Jews in Europe. Not an easy thing in that day, esp. when you are galavanting with royalty and "high society". To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- MDixon6569@ wrote: jpgillam@ writes: What a family. And what a great book from which to take instruction about family values and sexual mores! Leviticus deals with the rest at a later place in the Bible as society evolves. Cite some passages and I'll look them up. Thanks. There's an excellent (and very balanced) rundown of the various interpretations of the primary passage, Leviticus 18:22, here: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh.htm It should be quite an eye-opener to those who have always assumed the verse condemns homosexuality. But then there's also Paul in Romans 1:26-27... And with a male you shall not lay lyings of a woman Well, being a fundamentalist, I beleive the Bible should be read literally, without a lot of symbolic or metaphoric or fancy smancy interpretations. I take the passage to mean that men should not lay together. Period. Nothing is said about sex. Thus if two men get it on by standing, sitting, bent over, etc, then thats fine. They just cant lay together -- on the ground or in a bed, or in the hay in the barn. Sex or no sex. No man to man laying. And women can lay together, no problem. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Beowulf from Wiki: Hwæt! We Gar-Dena in geardagum, þeodcyninga,þrym gefrunon, hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon. Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum, monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah, egsode eorlas. Syððan ærest wearð feasceaft funden, he þæs frofre gebad, weox under wolcnum, weorðmyndum þah, oðþæt him æghwylc þara ymbsittendra ofer hronrade hyran scolde, gomban gyldan. þæt wæs god cyning! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend wrote: There's an excellent (and very balanced) rundown of the various interpretations of the primary passage, Leviticus 18:22, here: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh.htm Yes, that's interesting, thank you. Reading these old verses points up the impracticality of trying to live one's life by the dictates of some external code. I mean, the original Hebrew sounds warped as it is: And with a male you shall not lay lyings of a woman. Huh? And now I have to make sense of that, and live my life by it? Not only that, but this is the book that condones polygyny and slavery. Shall we reinstate those practices as well? I suspect those old Jews had the same issue with gay sex that people have today: it seems stinky, what with all that santorum on the sheepskins... ROTFL!!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
Judy writes: I have to say, though, I'm not as interested in Shakespeare's identity, incarnational or historical, as I am in the physical entity who put the words on paper, if you see the distinction I'm making. Whoever he was, he was one hell of an incarnation. I'm inclined to think of him as the most significant all- round human genius of whom we have any record. Tom T: In Maurice Buckes Classic Cosmic Consciousness Bucke makes the case that Franccis Bacon wrote all the Shakespeare stuff and does a cross reference to Bacons other writings to corraborate style and manner. Bucke also makes the case that Bacon was extablished in Cosmic Consciousness as defined by Bucke. The E P Dutton version of 1969 has it starting on page 153. A great read in total as he includes many of the worlds greatest writers in the same category as Bacon. ie Blake, Whitman, Dante, Balzac,etc. He also included the stories of 36 ordinary contemporaries who lived at the end of the 1800's. The book was first published in 1900. Enjoy Tom T Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's opinion regarding the infamous cartoons of Prophet Mohammed @ Amritapuri.org
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: http://www.amritapuri.org/teachings/message/cartoon.php My opinion: Amma should have kept her mouth shut. Her words border on justifying the actions of murderers and terrorists. How so? She's just pointing out that people get upset when something they hold very dear is made fun of. Well, yeah, Charles Manson was very upset with Terry Melcher for treating his songwriting, which Manson held very dear, so frivolously and Mark David Chapman was very upset with John Lennon for making fun of Christianity which Chapman, a born-again, held very dear. In times of turmoil and murder, responsible people don't go out of their way to justify why murderers are doing what they are doing. Instead they concentrate on bringing peace to the situation. But you can't bring peace to a situation if you don't understand why it's violent. Agreed. But timing and tact require leaders to tread delicately as to what is appropriate to say at what time. Trying to understand why a murderer does what he does is not, in my opinion, appropriate at the time that the murders ARE STILL TAKING PLACE. What is appropriate at that time is other words and other guidance. Unless its in a hostage situation, of course ...and likely other scenarios as well. duh Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Here is something that amazed me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 2/24/06 7:22 AM, Rick Archer at fairfieldlife@ wrote: So here's a partial list of dictators that Maharishi has praised, presumably in the hope that they would embrace his message and implement it throughout their countries, without any messy democracy holding things up: The Shah of Iran Anastasio Somosa (Nicaragua) I should add that he didn't publicly praise these two, but privately had, or tried to have people meet with them in order to solicit their support. Even in a real world (not TMO world) perspective, where's the harm in trying to get TM instituted in a country run by a dictator? ...the same harm there is in accusing organisations (e.g. the CIA) of crimes that there is no proof that they committed. It's dishonest. If MMY genuinely believes that the CIA (or some other government agency) is secretly trying to destroy the TMO, how is it dishonest for him to say it? It may be incorrect, but how is it dishonest to say what you believe to be true? You certainly don't make friends with the Powers That Be in such a place by criticizing them afterall... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Here is something that amazed me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/24/06 2:14 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even in a real world (not TMO world) perspective, where's the harm in trying to get TM instituted in a country run by a dictator? ...the same harm there is in accusing organisations (e.g. the CIA) of crimes that there is no proof that they committed. It's dishonest. Also, if any of these dictators had taken the bait, how forcible would they have been in getting all their citizens to meditate? Considering that Maharishi used to joke about meditation police who would pick up people on the street who didn't look happy and put them in meditation asylums, one wonders. IS it possible to force someone to meditate? And what do you call a judge who makes practicing meditation part of a prison parole agreement? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Here is something that amazed me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 2/24/06 3:50 AM, hugheshugo at richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Feb 23, 2006, at 5:27 AM, hugheshugo wrote: That might have been when I first started questioning the way things are run, the next was Maharishi's press conference with Slobodan Milosovic (the butcher of Belgrade) about what a wronged man he is. But thats another story! Are you implying that M. supported Milosovic as a leader? The conference was held in Belgrade with MMY on a big screen telling Milosovic he was a wronged man. Now, if my memory serves me correctly he also said that with our programmes he would stay in power. I only mention my memory because it was either Milosovic or another tin- pot loony that MMY's support of astonished me. So here's a partial list of dictators that Maharishi has praised, presumably in the hope that they would embrace his message and implement it throughout their countries, without any messy democracy holding things up: Slobodan Milosovic The Shah of Iran Anastasio Somosa (Nicaragua) The invincibility of President Fidel Castro of Cuba The freedom of President Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe The Divine Rulership of President Abdurrahman Wahid of Indonesia The casting off of corrupt democracy by President Robert Guei of the Ivory Coast See http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=49377 Did it ever work? OTOH, did sucking up to democratic leaders ever work either? Define work. In the case of Milosovic and Ferdinand Marcos and Somosa and the Shah of Iran, they didn't get to stick around for very long after making nice with MMY. Some would say that it worked in that case since the country must have improved. OTOH, some would saythat even the opportunity for MMY to publicly suck up to a dictator indicates an extreme level of desparation on the dictator's part. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig wrote: Why are so many women into giving oral sex? You mean unreciprocated oral sex? As opposed to the serial giving and receiving of pleasure? Yep. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those who are so keen to prove their liberal credentials by endorsing the practice of buggery might care to consult The Secret Life of Oscar Wilde (2005), by Neil McKenna, which provides many details of the disgusting nature of such acts. After Oscar had his way with the young men who came to his hotel room, the sheets were stained with shit, and this was important evidence, as supplied by a maid, in Oscar's conviction at his trial. Acknowledging is not the same as endorsing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Oh, Jude, I hate to be the first person to inform you of this, but the particular orifice in question was not designed to accommodate that particular appendage. If you're going to appeal to teleology, I was shocked tofind that feste is a creationist -- or at least an intelligent design deist pseudo scientist. Or maybe just a homophobe. I thought the latter was synonomous with the former two. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Those who are so keen to prove their liberal credentials I have no interest in liberal credentials. by endorsing the practice of buggery might care to consult The Secret Life of Oscar Wilde (2005), by Neil McKenna, which provides many details of the disgusting nature of such acts. After Oscar had his way with the young men who came to his hotel room, the sheets were stained with shit, and this was important evidence, as supplied by a maid, in Oscar's conviction at his trial. Ah. One man's experience in repressed victorian England certainly proves your point beyond any doubt: 'all anal sex is dirty and filthy as is as utterly disgusting as the fag queer homo perverts who do it. I mean eeeww.' I know younger women who will only do anal -- in that it is far more pleasurable for them. And they say once guys have good female anal, they never go back to the other orface -- again the pleasure is so great. There is far more practice in controlling the muscles of the sphinctor than of the vagina. Most women don't even know how to begin, but I prefer non-anal by a good bit for many many reasons that have nothing to do with muscle control. So much for the liberal casting of anal as a gay thing. But then you probably think oral sex is totally gay also. And so much for your creationist design theories. Apparently the anal canal has a better design for sex than the vagina. Does that make your presumed designer gay. Most designers are of course. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but I don't find the acts disgusting. I find homophobia such as yours disgusting. I don't get off on looking at such acts. ANd any physical response is tainted with a certain level of distaste so I don't initiate such acts either. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 2/24/06 1:42:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, jstein@ writes: I was shocked tofind that feste is a creationist -- or at least an intelligent design deist pseudo scientist. Or maybe just a homophobe. Or maybe just a little more in tune with nature than some. Oh, goody, another homophobe comes out of the closet. Were I a fundamentalist christian, I might call it counter to nature. Instead, I just call it something I'm not into for various reasons. However, I don't justify my personal distaste by condemning other peoplefor having other tastes. Of coruse, there are some who equate homosexualality with pediphilia and view both as a matter of taste so for them, it goes beyond a matter of taste. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 24, 2006, at 5:54 PM, feste37 wrote: But it doesn't mean I have to go along with the homosexual agenda What is that, Feste? I mean that sincerely. I have heard about the homosexual agenda for years, as have many others, but have yet to see a single copy of it. The homosexual agenda, such as it is, is to be accepted as full-blown members of society in every respect, including the right to marry, adopt kids, etc. There are anciliallary agendas, like the right to boink whomever you want, whenever you want, that helped contribute to the AIDS epidemic amongst homosexual men in this country, but the sexual underground for heterosexuals was never quite so media hungry as the homosexual one was, at least IMHO, so we heard more about the gay bathhouses than Club whatsis. that brainwashes people into believing that a homosexual 'lifestyle is just as good as any other. And the last time a homosexual approached you and tried to brainwash you into believing that his lifestyle was just as good as yours was...? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 2/24/06 5:19:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, j_alexander_stanley@ writes: Or maybe just a little more in tune with nature than some. The only thing that kind of spiritual arrogance has to do with enlightenment is as a barrier to it. H isn't that the line , or a similar one , that Andy Rhymer used on his victims? What are you saying? That Judy also molests young men and gives them blow jobs? Well, depending on how old young is, neither they nor the law, may view it as molestation. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Were I a fundamentalist christian, I might call it counter to nature. Instead, I just call it something I'm not into for various reasons. However, I don't justify my personal distaste by condemning other peoplefor having other tastes. Of coruse, there are some who equate homosexualality with pediphilia and view both as a matter of taste so for them, it goes beyond a matter of taste. Well, but there's no excuse *whatsoever* for equating homosexuality with pedophilia. A pedophile is one whose sexual preference is for *prepubescent children*, of either sex. That's just a fact, that's not an opinion or a matter of taste. If the sex object is past puberty, it isn't pedophilia. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Were I a fundamentalist christian, I might call it counter to nature. Instead, I just call it something I'm not into for various reasons. However, I don't justify my personal distaste by condemning other peoplefor having other tastes. Of coruse, there are some who equate homosexualality with pediphilia and view both as a matter of taste so for them, it goes beyond a matter of taste. Well, but there's no excuse *whatsoever* for equating homosexuality with pedophilia. A pedophile is one whose sexual preference is for *prepubescent children*, of either sex. That's just a fact, that's not an opinion or a matter of taste. If the sex object is past puberty, it isn't pedophilia. Also, just for the record, pedophilia is considered a sexual disorder, whereas homosexuality is not, at least clinically. A man who is attracted to young boys, if they are past puberty, is no more sexually disordered than a man who is attracted to post-pubescent young girls. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl no_reply@ wrote: snip 2) Anal sex, Do you a man and woman haveing anal anal sex I'm having a little trouble visualizing this one... double-ended dildo? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't St. Germaine, *as* St. Germaine, active during the French Revolution? Or was that a different St. Germaine? same dude. In some ways he's just like Waldo. He keeps popping up in interesting places. lurk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Here is something that amazed me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 2/24/06 7:22 AM, Rick Archer at fairfieldlife@ wrote: So here's a partial list of dictators that Maharishi has praised, presumably in the hope that they would embrace his message and implement it throughout their countries, without any messy democracy holding things up: The Shah of Iran Anastasio Somosa (Nicaragua) I should add that he didn't publicly praise these two, but privately had, or tried to have people meet with them in order to solicit their support. Even in a real world (not TMO world) perspective, where's the harm in trying to get TM instituted in a country run by a dictator? ...the same harm there is in accusing organisations (e.g. the CIA) of crimes that there is no proof that they committed. It's dishonest. If MMY genuinely believes that the CIA (or some other government agency) is secretly trying to destroy the TMO, how is it dishonest for him to say it? It may be incorrect, but how is it dishonest to say what you believe to be true? If I believe you are a murderer without any proof that you are a murderer and go on a soapbox and start shouting that you are a murderer WITHOUT giving the proof, then that's dishonest. There are legitimate avenues of redress if MMY believes the CIA illegally infiltrated the TMO: courts, police, and -- if one believes that the courts and police are compromised by the CIA -- the media. But to accuse an individual/organisation of crimes is not ethical, honest and right action in my opinion... You certainly don't make friends with the Powers That Be in such a place by criticizing them afterall... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Sorry, but I don't find the acts disgusting. I find homophobia such as yours disgusting. I don't get off on looking at such acts. ANd any physical response is tainted with a certain level of distaste so I don't initiate such acts either. Thank you for sharing that bit of information with us, Spare Egg. That was really something we all wanted to know. So, go on and continue to respond to each and every post on this forum, please. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Were I a fundamentalist christian, I might call it counter to nature. Instead, I just call it something I'm not into for various reasons. However, I don't justify my personal distaste by condemning other peoplefor having other tastes. Of coruse, there are some who equate homosexualality with pediphilia and view both as a matter of taste so for them, it goes beyond a matter of taste. Well, but there's no excuse *whatsoever* for equating homosexuality with pedophilia. A pedophile is one whose sexual preference is for *prepubescent children*, of either sex. That's just a fact, that's not an opinion or a matter of taste. If the sex object is past puberty, it isn't pedophilia. Also, just for the record, pedophilia is considered a sexual disorder, whereas homosexuality is not, at least clinically. A man who is attracted to young boys, if they are past puberty, is no more sexually disordered than a man who is attracted to post-pubescent young girls. So as long as the boy has pubic hair and his voice has dropped, if he willingly engages in sex with a 60 year old man, then the 60 year old is ONLY guilty of statutory rape? Is that what you're saying? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Were I a fundamentalist christian, I might call it counter to nature. Instead, I just call it something I'm not into for various reasons. However, I don't justify my personal distaste by condemning other peoplefor having other tastes. Of coruse, there are some who equate homosexualality with pediphilia and view both as a matter of taste so for them, it goes beyond a matter of taste. Well, but there's no excuse *whatsoever* for equating homosexuality with pedophilia. A pedophile is one whose sexual preference is for *prepubescent children*, of either sex. That's just a fact, that's not an opinion or a matter of taste. If the sex object is past puberty, it isn't pedophilia. Also, just for the record, pedophilia is considered a sexual disorder, whereas homosexuality is not, at least clinically. A man who is attracted to young boys, if they are past puberty, is no more sexually disordered than a man who is attracted to post-pubescent young girls. So as long as the boy has pubic hair and his voice has dropped, if he willingly engages in sex with a 60 year old man, then the 60 year old is ONLY guilty of statutory rape? Is that what you're saying? I'm sorry, can you show me where I was talking about guilt or legal distinctions? And if not, could you please make an effort next time to read what you're responding to? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
In a message dated 2/26/06 12:19:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: suggests otherwise--i.e., that the men of Sodom weren'thomosexual or even bisexual, and that the threatened rapewas not a function of sexual desire on their part, butrather an attempt to intimidate Lot's visitors intoleaving forthwith. And Why did they want them to leave so quickly? Was rape the only means of intimidating them? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
In a message dated 2/26/06 12:21:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cite some passages and I'll look them up. Thanks. Try Leviticus 18 Forbidden Sexual practices. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
Shaksper was an actor. He was quite a convenient front man for Oxford. I cannot answer all your questions because it is some years since I researched this and I have forgotten many of the details. But the best book on the subject was published only last August. It's called Shakespeare by Any Other Name, by Mark Anderson. I haven't read it yet, but it's a serious book, serious publisher, and was reviewed in the quality press. The author has a website, http://www.shakespearebyanothername.com/index.html, which may pique your interest in the whole issue. There are also some cheap used copies available on Amazon. The case for Oxford as author is circumstantial, but the parallels between his life and the details of the plays are cumulative and in sum overwhelming. Also, it's been known for some years now that one of the few portraits of Shaksper, known as the Ashbourne portrait, is in fact a touched up portrait of the Earl of Oxford. This has been demonstrated scientifically and has never been refuted by the Stratfordians (those who cling to the belief that Shaksper of Stratford wrote the plays). The academic establishment refuses to take the Oxford case seriously but they are looking more and more foolish as the years go by. Their biographies of Shakespeare are a joke. Of course, if they were to admit that Oxford wrote the plays, or even acknowledge the possibility of such a thing, their life's work would be negated. They simply can't afford to admit they are wrong. Someone on this site mentioned Francis Bacon as the author. No way! The only serious candidate is Oxford, and Oxford wrote those plays. I have no doubt of it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, even if that were the case, the profession became respectable and has been so for quite a while since. Wouldn't the Earl's descendants have wanted to set the record straight? Wouldn't they want their own ancestor to be known as the greatest playwright in history? And why would the Earl have picked someone illiterate to be his frontman? Wouldn't that have seemed sort of suspicious? And I'm still a bit confused as to how someone who is so illiterate all they can do is to sign their own name, becomes interested in the acquisition of wealth, social status and property to begin with? And how someone this low on the social scale made his situation so well-known that 400 years later people are still talking about it. Sal On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:54 AM, feste37 wrote: It just wasn't the thing for a nobleman to write plays for the public theaters, which were considered rather disreputable places. Writing plays was something lower-class people did. It was closer to a trade than an honorable profession, hence the word playwright, as in shipwright and wheelwright, that is, an artisan, a worker. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Why would the Earl of Oxford not have wanted to take credit for the plays? Sal On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:31 AM, feste37 wrote: Shakespeare's plays were in fact written by the Earl of Oxford. They were certainly not written by the illiterate Shaksper from Stratford, who could barely sign his own name and appears to have been interested only in the acquisition of wealth, social status and property. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
In a message dated 2/26/06 12:31:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But remember that the kingdom of God is coming soon.' I tell you, on the judgment day it will be worse for the people of that town than for the people of Sodom."It appears that as far as Jesus was concerned, the sinof refusing hospitality was far worse than that ofhomosexuality. The comparison of homosexuality and hospitality are not made here by Christ. What Christ is saying is that the people of a town that refuses his message are in far worse condition because the message was offered and rejected where as it was never offered to the Sodomites who never rejected it. Try reading Leviticus 18:22,Romans 1:18-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 2/24/06 1:42:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, jstein@ writes: I was shocked tofind that feste is a creationist -- or at least an intelligent design deist pseudo scientist. Or maybe just a homophobe. Or maybe just a little more in tune with nature than some. Oh, goody, another homophobe comes out of the closet. Were I a fundamentalist christian, I might call it counter to nature. And, some TM-TB's would call it a violation of natural law, and both groups have obviously never taken the time to observe what *actually* goes on in nature. But, it certainly is easy for the majority to vilify a small minority they perceive as distasteful. Unfortunately, when such attitudes are codified into dogma by the religious industrial complex, they become ego chow that fuels separation and ego-identity; purported to be spiritual knowledge, it is actually just the opposite. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
Even though many of the plays were written after Oxford died? OK. I imagine in about 3 or 400 years we'll be hearing pretty much the same thing about Lennon and MacCartney: Those guys could *never* have produced all that music. No way! They were from ordinary families, not the elite! They barely had high school educations. And Paul MacCartney couldn't even read music! It must have been Prince Charles. Sal On Feb 26, 2006, at 5:05 PM, feste37 wrote: The case for Oxford as author is circumstantial, but the parallels between his life and the details of the plays are cumulative and in sum overwhelming.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even though many of the plays were written after Oxford died? OK. I imagine in about 3 or 400 years we'll be hearing pretty much the same thing about Lennon and MacCartney: Those guys could *never* have produced all that music. No way! They were from ordinary families, not the elite! They barely had high school educations. And Paul MacCartney couldn't even read music! It must have been Prince Charles. Sal And who will they think wrote all of Elton John's stuff? The Queen? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/26/06 12:19:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: suggests otherwise--i.e., that the men of Sodom weren't homosexual or even bisexual, and that the threatened rape was not a function of sexual desire on their part, but rather an attempt to intimidate Lot's visitors into leaving forthwith. And Why did they want them to leave so quickly? Was rape the only means of intimidating them? According to the Bible, they didn't want to have to share their prosperity with every stranger who came along. I suspect they could have found other means, but rape was a pretty effective threat, and, as I said, a common means of doing so at that time. Plus which, they probably would have enjoyed the actual intimidation and humiliation of the strangers. Rape generally--including heterosexual rape--is not about sex but about power. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/26/06 12:31:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But remember that the kingdom of God is coming soon.' I tell you, on the judgment day it will be worse for the people of that town than for the people of Sodom. It appears that as far as Jesus was concerned, the sin of refusing hospitality was far worse than that of homosexuality. The comparison of homosexuality and hospitality are not made here by Christ. What Christ is saying is that the people of a town that refuses his message are in far worse condition because the message was offered and rejected where as it was never offered to the Sodomites who never rejected it. Of course, but why did Jesus choose Sodom for the comparison? He didn't just pick it out of a hat; he used Sodom because the sinful *behavior* was similar to that of the town that would reject Jesus's disciples--the lack of welcome to strangers. The *punishment* would be worse because they were rejecting Jesus's message, but to make that very point he had to choose a town with an equivalent sin. Obviously he wasn't suggesting that the towns that rejected his disciples would be full of homosexuals. Try reading Leviticus 18:22,Romans 1:18-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. But why did Jesus choose Sodom for his comparison? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rape generally--including heterosexual rape--is not about sex but about power. I am sure it is generally, Susan Brownmiller's work and all, but it occured to me a large category of rape -- date rape -- is primarily about lust. Some power dimension perhaps in some cases. What do you think? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
The official dates of composition of the plays involves large amounts of guesswork. Many of them cannot be dated with any certainty at all. Oxford died some years before Shaksper, but the so-called later plays can without much difficulty be placed earlier than they appear in the official chronologies. I'm unconvinced by your Beatles analogy, but it doesn't interest me one way or another what you choose to believe. You asked me a question and I answered it, that's all. Generally, I've found that people are skeptical at first, even derisive, when they first hear about the Oxfordian claims (although that is your general style on this board anyway), but the more they investigate the matter, the more convincing they find the Oxfordian case to be. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even though many of the plays were written after Oxford died? OK. I imagine in about 3 or 400 years we'll be hearing pretty much the same thing about Lennon and MacCartney: Those guys could *never* have produced all that music. No way! They were from ordinary families, not the elite! They barely had high school educations. And Paul MacCartney couldn't even read music! It must have been Prince Charles. Sal On Feb 26, 2006, at 5:05 PM, feste37 wrote: The case for Oxford as author is circumstantial, but the parallels between his life and the details of the plays are cumulative and in sum overwhelming. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Rape generally--including heterosexual rape--is not about sex but about power. I am sure it is generally, Susan Brownmiller's work and all, but it occured to me a large category of rape -- date rape -- is primarily about lust. Some power dimension perhaps in some cases. What do you think? Date rape as a category involves a very broad range of situations. Where it's coerced against explicit, vehement resistance, it's still about power. But much less overtly coercive behavior is also called date rape. So you have to look at it on a case-by-case basis. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Chandlers Wobble?
Been contemplating the wobble story that was posted a while back and wonder if there was any more thought on it. If it turned out that it could caause a pole shift, shouldnt all the vastu correct people be getting prepared to get upset? And with that, would the sun come up in the east if the east wasn't in the east any longer? Should we worry a little or is it another Y2K farce? N. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chandlers Wobble?
On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:31 PM, Nelson wrote: Been contemplating the wobble story that was posted a while back and wonder if there was any more thought on it. If it turned out that it could caause a pole shift, shouldnt all the "vastu correct" people be getting prepared to get upset? And with that, would the sun come up in the east if the east wasn't in the east any longer? Should we worry a little or is it another Y2K farce? N. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandler_Wobble To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Is Microsoft Dropping Cryptic Hints About a New Gadget?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/27/technology/27origami.html?_r=1oref=slogin SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. 26 A cryptic Web site that was set up by Microsoft but does not bear its name appears to hint that the company will reveal information about a new consumer product on Thursday. The site caused a flurry of speculation on Internet gadget gossip sites over the weekend. The Web site, www.origamiproject.com, suggests that the introduction of a personalized mobile device that will change your life is in the offing, but gives no details. It promises an update on Thursday. A video clip unearthed by bloggers on the Web site of the video production firm Digital Kitchen appears to be an advertisement for a hand-held, wireless touch-screen computer from Microsoft called Origami. Paul Mattheus, Digital Kitchen's chief executive, and a press contact listed on its Web site did not return phone calls or e-mail messages on Sunday. Richard Doherty, the president of Envisioneering, a consumer electronics consulting firm, said that his company had received an invitation to a briefing for analysts at Microsoft's headquarters in Redmond, Wash., on Thursday. It's a 'technology' we've been invited to see, Mr. Doherty said. That could be all kinds of things. But a device that is near to shipping would be surprising. If Microsoft was working with any of the major chip makers on a new device, it would be a long shot that that piece of information would not slip out until the product was almost ready. Intel has been working on multimedia tablet-style PC's running Windows for some time. One prototype, called Ruby, was shown to some industry analysts last year. According to one analyst who saw Ruby, it was about the size of the device in the Digital Kitchen video. Frank Shaw, a spokesman for Microsoft, said Saturday that the company was not planning an announcement on Thursday, but that it would have something to talk about at an industry event next month. He would not comment on the intent of the Web site but confirmed that it did belong to Microsoft. Several commentators suggested the device would be a Microsoft-branded media player aimed at competing with the Apple iPod. Microsoft has had little success in using its conventional model of rallying branded hardware makers around its software and services to create a compelling alternative to Apple's combination of the iPod and the iTunes music store. A number of industry analysts said that Microsoft, which has traditionally generated little suspense with its product announcements, was trying to steal a page from Apple Computer's playbook by fueling anticipation with secrecy. For its part, Apple has sent reporters invitations to a press event on Tuesday to introduce fun new products at the company's headquarters in Cupertino, Calif. Steve Lohr contributed reporting from New York for this article. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
On Feb 26, 2006, at 6:34 PM, feste37 wrote: I'm unconvinced by your Beatles analogy, but it doesn't interest me one way or another what you choose to believe. I was just attempting to instill a little humor in the discussion, Feste--a hopeless task, I should have known. You asked me a question and I answered it, that's all. Generally, I've found that people are skeptical at first, even derisive, when they first hear about the Oxfordian claims (although that is your general style on this board anyway), Um, weren't you one of the ones objecting to labels a while back? but the more they investigate the matter, the more convincing they find the Oxfordian case to be. The same people who believe that Elvis lives or that Abraham Lincoln was reincarnated as Andy Rymer? What I have always objected to about this theory (for lack of a better word) is its blatant mean-spiritedness, its smug elitism, its attempt to deny one of the greatest literary accomplishments in history to a mere commoner--based on the flimsiest of evidence, changing facts all over the place whenever they are inconvenient rather than actually dealing with them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chandlers Wobble?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:31 PM, Nelson wrote: Been contemplating the wobble story that was posted a while back and wonder if there was any more thought on it. If it turned out that it could caause a pole shift, shouldnt all the vastu correct people be getting prepared to get upset? And with that, would the sun come up in the east if the east wasn't in the east any longer? Should we worry a little or is it another Y2K farce? N. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandler_Wobble ++ And I thought we were going to have a little excitement. Maybe the ice caps melting a little more will do it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
I made the mistake of thinking that your inquiry was a serious one, and I took some time to deal sincerely with you in a spirit of intellectual inquiry. Obviously, I was wasting my time. You do not have a clue what you are talking about and you appear to have no interest in learning. That's my last word on the matter, no matter what your silly little mind comes up with as a response, which I will not even bother to read. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 26, 2006, at 6:34 PM, feste37 wrote: I'm unconvinced by your Beatles analogy, but it doesn't interest me one way or another what you choose to believe. I was just attempting to instill a little humor in the discussion, Feste--a hopeless task, I should have known. You asked me a question and I answered it, that's all. Generally, I've found that people are skeptical at first, even derisive, when they first hear about the Oxfordian claims (although that is your general style on this board anyway), Um, weren't you one of the ones objecting to labels a while back? but the more they investigate the matter, the more convincing they find the Oxfordian case to be. The same people who believe that Elvis lives or that Abraham Lincoln was reincarnated as Andy Rymer? What I have always objected to about this theory (for lack of a better word) is its blatant mean-spiritedness, its smug elitism, its attempt to deny one of the greatest literary accomplishments in history to a mere commoner--based on the flimsiest of evidence, changing facts all over the place whenever they are inconvenient rather than actually dealing with them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The easy way to do a bit of self-enquiry
Title: The easy way to do a bit of self-enquiry -- Forwarded Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:59:07 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: the easy way to do a bit of self-enquiry rick, last night i sent a reply to my brother on the topic of self-enquiry and i thought you might like to see it so i'm appending it below. i usually think of enquiry as being hard but simple, but lately i've been appreciating how it can be approached in a way that's both simple and easy. i hope you like it and will post it on fairfield life. bax = ... i think you're right in that having a good understanding of who we are is what makes everything else in life work out. the main thing to remember about self-enquiry is that we are always dealing with two levels of i-ness. the superficial one is the thought, 'i', also known as ego or mind. it's our enemy in the sense that its birth marks our fall from grace, our original sin. but it's also our best friend in the sense that it can be used more effectively than any other tool to help us reconnect with the real I-ness deep inside. in the end, the i-thought (the ego) must go, but not before it has led us to its source. the source of the i-thought is our true Self, the real I-ness at the core of our being, also known as the Heart. as far as finding time to meditate, i think it's more effective to catch a few fleeting moments in the midst of normal daily activities than to sit specifically for this purpose. for example, maybe you're watching a good show on tv and you're really lost in it, and then you innocently notice that you are there - that's a moment that can be used: that simple thought/feeling, i'm back or, oh yeah, i'm here and i know it can be held for a few moments before it slips away. the difference between a moment right after remembering oneself and right before doing so is just this basic background feeling of i'm here-ness, the common, automatic feeling of return to self-awareness following a subjective absence. i think of this as 'commercial-time', because it occurs when life's 'show' stops for a moment and a break occurs. the easy way to do a bit of self-enquiry is to just reinforce the habit of capitalizing on such opportunities when they come to us unbidden. sometimes, when i find myself in one of these moments and compare the 'before' and 'after' feelings, it seems that when i was 'gone' in a sense i wasn't really alive. some time has passed and i'm 'suddenly' a bit older, but i feel kind of cheated, because it's almost as if i wasn't there to live my life during that time. it seems to have happened all by itself, without me, because it lacked the personal touch of my self-awareness. this simple return to self-awareness is the feeling of remembering per se, rather than remembering this or that. in fact, the only thing that we ever really remember is ourself, but we tend to assign that special feeling to whatever random thought happens to be passing through our mind at that moment and call this assignment a 'memory' of the object or event that that thought refers to. if you think about it, this feeling of remembering ourself is the only thing that we ever really know for sure. we know it directly, whereas anything else that we 'know' is subject to doubt and debate. doing what we can to nurture a budding curiosity about this feeling is more productive than time spent in sitting meditation, because it's immediate and true to what we are innocently feeling in that moment. it's natural to be curious about anything new that we become aware of. if we meet someone new, we want to know more about them even if we've only spent a few moments in their company. how much stronger is the natural curiosity about our feeling of here I-amness once we begin to notice that it's been with us for so long? i thought of a couple of images for nurturing that natural fascination for the feeling of i-ness and for seeing that it can lead us to its source, the Self. (these are the two levels of i-ness that we started with: the i-thought and the source of the i-thought, the Self). i hope you like them. the first one is at a wedding reception. a man shows up and enjoys the food and company. the groom's family assumes that he's part of the bride's party and vice versa, so no-one gives him a second thought. but sooner or later, someone starts to notice him and to wonder who he is. as soon as anyone even begins to approach him, he splits the scene. it's all quite automatic once someone's attention is drawn to him, so that first moment of curiosity in them marks the beginning of the end for him. it's the same way with the sense or feeling of i-ness. we just assume that it belongs in our mind and so we don't ever examine it, but sooner or later each of us begins to wonder who or what it really is. soon after we start to look at it directly it splits the scene, leaving us in the presence of the real I-ness that goes beyond any thought
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Were I a fundamentalist christian, I might call it counter to nature. Instead, I just call it something I'm not into for various reasons. However, I don't justify my personal distaste by condemning other peoplefor having other tastes. Of coruse, there are some who equate homosexualality with pediphilia and view both as a matter of taste so for them, it goes beyond a matter of taste. Well, but there's no excuse *whatsoever* for equating homosexuality with pedophilia. A pedophile is one whose sexual preference is for *prepubescent children*, of either sex. That's just a fact, that's not an opinion or a matter of taste. If the sex object is past puberty, it isn't pedophilia. Also, just for the record, pedophilia is considered a sexual disorder, whereas homosexuality is not, at least clinically. A man who is attracted to young boys, if they are past puberty, is no more sexually disordered than a man who is attracted to post-pubescent young girls. So as long as the boy has pubic hair and his voice has dropped, if he willingly engages in sex with a 60 year old man, then the 60 year old is ONLY guilty of statutory rape? Is that what you're saying? I'm sorry, can you show me where I was talking about guilt or legal distinctions? pedophilia = illegal homosexuality = legal And if not, could you please make an effort next time to read what you're responding to? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Even though many of the plays were written after Oxford died? OK. I imagine in about 3 or 400 years we'll be hearing pretty much the same thing about Lennon and MacCartney: Those guys could *never* have produced all that music. No way! They were from ordinary families, not the elite! They barely had high school educations. And Paul MacCartney couldn't even read music! It must have been Prince Charles. Sal And who will they think wrote all of Elton John's stuff? The Queen? Are you saying Elton John is a queen? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Rape generally--including heterosexual rape--is not about sex but about power. Camille Paglia says that's bullshit. Of couse, she says, rape is about sex. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: [snip] Rape generally--including heterosexual rape--is not about sex but about power. Camille Paglia says that's bullshit. Of couse, she says, rape is about sex. Camille Paglia is bullshit. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Were I a fundamentalist christian, I might call it counter to nature. Instead, I just call it something I'm not into for various reasons. However, I don't justify my personal distaste by condemning other peoplefor having other tastes. Of coruse, there are some who equate homosexualality with pediphilia and view both as a matter of taste so for them, it goes beyond a matter of taste. Well, but there's no excuse *whatsoever* for equating homosexuality with pedophilia. A pedophile is one whose sexual preference is for *prepubescent children*, of either sex. That's just a fact, that's not an opinion or a matter of taste. If the sex object is past puberty, it isn't pedophilia. Also, just for the record, pedophilia is considered a sexual disorder, whereas homosexuality is not, at least clinically. A man who is attracted to young boys, if they are past puberty, is no more sexually disordered than a man who is attracted to post-pubescent young girls. So as long as the boy has pubic hair and his voice has dropped, if he willingly engages in sex with a 60 year old man, then the 60 year old is ONLY guilty of statutory rape? Is that what you're saying? I'm sorry, can you show me where I was talking about guilt or legal distinctions? pedophilia = illegal homosexuality = legal I'm sorry, can you show me where I was talking about guilt or legal distinctions? And if not, could you please make an effort next time to read what you're responding to? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: [snip] Rape generally--including heterosexual rape--is not about sex but about power. Camille Paglia says that's bullshit. Of couse, she says, rape is about sex. Camille Paglia is bullshit. She should know: she's a lesbian. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Were I a fundamentalist christian, I might call it counter to nature. Instead, I just call it something I'm not into for various reasons. However, I don't justify my personal distaste by condemning other peoplefor having other tastes. Of coruse, there are some who equate homosexualality with pediphilia and view both as a matter of taste so for them, it goes beyond a matter of taste. Well, but there's no excuse *whatsoever* for equating homosexuality with pedophilia. A pedophile is one whose sexual preference is for *prepubescent children*, of either sex. That's just a fact, that's not an opinion or a matter of taste. If the sex object is past puberty, it isn't pedophilia. Also, just for the record, pedophilia is considered a sexual disorder, whereas homosexuality is not, at least clinically. A man who is attracted to young boys, if they are past puberty, is no more sexually disordered than a man who is attracted to post-pubescent young girls. So as long as the boy has pubic hair and his voice has dropped, if he willingly engages in sex with a 60 year old man, then the 60 year old is ONLY guilty of statutory rape? Is that what you're saying? I'm sorry, can you show me where I was talking about guilt or legal distinctions? pedophilia = illegal homosexuality = legal I'm sorry, can you show me where I was talking about guilt or legal distinctions? Okay, forget whether or not you were talking about guilt or legal distinctions...I'm now asking you whether a 60 year old man who engages in consentual homosexual sex with a post-pubescent 12 year old is only guilty of statutory rape and nothing else? And if not, could you please make an effort next time to read what you're responding to? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Were I a fundamentalist christian, I might call it counter to nature. Instead, I just call it something I'm not into for various reasons. However, I don't justify my personal distaste by condemning other peoplefor having other tastes. Of coruse, there are some who equate homosexualality with pediphilia and view both as a matter of taste so for them, it goes beyond a matter of taste. Well, but there's no excuse *whatsoever* for equating homosexuality with pedophilia. A pedophile is one whose sexual preference is for *prepubescent children*, of either sex. That's just a fact, that's not an opinion or a matter of taste. If the sex object is past puberty, it isn't pedophilia. Also, just for the record, pedophilia is considered a sexual disorder, whereas homosexuality is not, at least clinically. A man who is attracted to young boys, if they are past puberty, is no more sexually disordered than a man who is attracted to post-pubescent young girls. So as long as the boy has pubic hair and his voice has dropped, if he willingly engages in sex with a 60 year old man, then the 60 year old is ONLY guilty of statutory rape? Is that what you're saying? I'm sorry, can you show me where I was talking about guilt or legal distinctions? pedophilia = illegal homosexuality = legal I'm sorry, can you show me where I was talking about guilt or legal distinctions? Okay, forget whether or not you were talking about guilt or legal distinctions... No need to forget whether or not, just acknowledge that I was not. I'm now asking you whether a 60 year old man who engages in consentual homosexual sex with a post-pubescent 12 year old is only guilty of statutory rape and nothing else? How should I know? Look it up yourself. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Were I a fundamentalist christian, I might call it counter to nature. Instead, I just call it something I'm not into for various reasons. However, I don't justify my personal distaste by condemning other peoplefor having other tastes. Of coruse, there are some who equate homosexualality with pediphilia and view both as a matter of taste so for them, it goes beyond a matter of taste. Well, but there's no excuse *whatsoever* for equating homosexuality with pedophilia. A pedophile is one whose sexual preference is for *prepubescent children*, of either sex. That's just a fact, that's not an opinion or a matter of taste. If the sex object is past puberty, it isn't pedophilia. Also, just for the record, pedophilia is considered a sexual disorder, whereas homosexuality is not, at least clinically. A man who is attracted to young boys, if they are past puberty, is no more sexually disordered than a man who is attracted to post-pubescent young girls. So as long as the boy has pubic hair and his voice has dropped, if he willingly engages in sex with a 60 year old man, then the 60 year old is ONLY guilty of statutory rape? Is that what you're saying? I'm sorry, can you show me where I was talking about guilt or legal distinctions? pedophilia = illegal homosexuality = legal I'm sorry, can you show me where I was talking about guilt or legal distinctions? Okay, forget whether or not you were talking about guilt or legal distinctions... No need to forget whether or not, just acknowledge that I was not. I'm now asking you whether a 60 year old man who engages in consentual homosexual sex with a post-pubescent 12 year old is only guilty of statutory rape and nothing else? How should I know? Look it up yourself. (sigh) Okay, let's try it this way. Judy, above you said: Also, just for the record, pedophilia is considered a sexual disorder, whereas homosexuality is not, at least clinically. A man who is attracted to young boys, if they are past puberty, is no more sexually disordered than a man who is attracted to post-pubescent young girls. Do you think it is acceptable for a consenting post-pubescent 12- year-old male to consent to sex with a 60-year-old male? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Camille Paglia is bullshit. Judy, this post seems very unlike you, why do you say this? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/24/06 8:35:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess that pretty much sums up all that these holy books would have had to say if they wanted to ban homosexuals. Anyone know of any holy book that comes close to telling us what we can or can't do in this area? The Bible says it is an abomination for a man to *lay* with another man they way he would with a woman. (paraphrased). I think that gets the point across without being too graphic. What's the punishment for this abomination? Failing to observe the Sabbath (always Saturday, sorry non-7th-dayers) is punishable by being stoned or banished. What's the set punishment for homosexuality in the bible? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
