[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)

2006-04-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@
 wrote:
 
   Kapor cofounded
   Lotus Development Corporation with Jonathan Sachs. 
   
   http://www.dssresources.com/history/sshistory.html
  
  Disgrunted 'ru though he was, do you think Mitch 
  Kapor came up with Lotus as a name for his company 
  as a result of his exposure to Indian culture via TM?
 
 I would guess that. But then from what I observed, Mitch 
 had a kind of wicked witty sense of humor. His using the 
 Lotus name might have been meant as something ironic 
 -- but still something that might appeal
 to consumers.

In France the name of the leading brand of toilet
tissue is Lotus.  They must have been influenced
by Indian culture as well...possibly by going to
India and finding no toilet tissue available.  :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Military Air Traffic Controller Claims Comet Collision with Earth on May 25, 2006

2006-04-14 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 snip
 
 Julien argues that the kinetic energy of even a 'car sized' 
fragment 
 will impact the Earth with devastating effect. 
 
 I don't get it.  How much more kinetic energy does a car size 
asteroid 
 pack than say a conventional bomb, such that a car size meteor 
could 
 create huge tidal waves etc.  Even nuclear tests or bombs, although 
 said to disrupt the earth in more subtle ways, do not appear to 
cause 
 widespread geographic destruction.  What am I missing?
 
 lurk 
 
 
  

How about this:

http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/supervolcano/supervolcano.html





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Advaita - - -

2006-04-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, surya dattapr2000@ 
 wrote:
 
  The Universe indicates the existence of God but neither gives 
the 
  information of God nor the experience of God. After realising 
the 
  existence of God, you can experience God through some item of 
the 
  creation into which God entered. The best item of the Universe 
is 
  the human being through which you can experience God and also 
  clarify your doubts with God directly. If God exist in every 
human 
  being, every human being should clarify your doubts. Infact 
since 
  you are also one of the human beings and since God is in 
yourself 
  also, you should clarify your own doubts, which means that you 
  should not get any doubt and therefore no human being should 
have 
  any doubt. Therefore, God enters into a specific human being 
only 
  like Krishna or Jesus etc., who can alone clarify all your 
doubts 
  and through whom alone you can experience God.
  
  If God exists in space, this means God is existing in this 
 Universe. 
  If God is present in the Universe, the Universe cannot be a 
 separate 
  object of entertainment to God. Veda says that this Universe is 
  created for His entertainment (Ekaki Na …..). If you are present 
 in 
  the cinema and become the cinema by pervading all over the 
cinema, 
  the cinema is not a separate object for you and therefore cannot 
  give entertainment to you. If you are the spectator of the 
cinema, 
  you should be separate from the cinema. You are the separate 
 subject 
  and the cinema is separate object. If the subject and object are 
 one 
  and the same, there is no existence of object at all. It means 
God 
  did not create this universe. If the creation is absent, there 
is 
 no 
  entertainment to God. This leads to the inability of God to 
create 
 a 
  separate object for His entertainment. Such inability makes God 
  impotent and then God cannot be omnipotent. Therefore, the 
 separate 
  existence of the Universe in which God is not present, must be 
  accepted to avoid all these contradictions.
  
  at the lotus feet of shri datta swami
  surya
  www.universal-spirituality.org
 
 the contradiction is resolved through the realization of the 
 personal God and His Creation, the impersonal God. God in 
 everything, and everything in God.

Or by pondering God The Absolutely Unnecessary.  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff 
 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
 wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
 fairfieldlife@
   wrote:
   
on 4/13/06 6:06 PM, Sal Sunshine at salsunshine@ wrote:

 Does that mean everybody now gets free chocolate?
 
Free chocolate, free sex, free marijuana.
 
  
  I saw a cartoon recently that is apt. A parent sternly lecturing 
 their
  kid: When I was your age, we had to walk TWO miles to get stoned 
 and
  have sex!
 
 
 ...and if this were a Monty Python routine, the skit would continue:
 
 That's nothing.  When I was a kid, we had to walk four miles just 
 for a blow job AND another six just for a cigarette!


I must be getting older.  I thought the world was better when the air
was dirty and sex was clean...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: WHO IS GAYATRI ?

2006-04-14 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  Gene Autry's brother.
 
 
 Very funny Shemp. You have a very good ear to get that!


Well, whadya know! Never thought about that. What is
yer favourite pronunciation of gayatri (gaayatrii =
to be sung??) like? (For instance: gay a try?).
The correct pronunciation is something like
gar(esp. British)-yah-trrree.






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[FairfieldLife] Favorite movies to watch in Sat Yuga

2006-04-14 Thread TurquoiseB
I don't know about the rest of you, but I always
cringe when I hear Maharishi talk about Sat Yuga
being near, because he seems to imagine it as this
oh-so-pure but OH-SO-BORING time/place, a lot like
the environments he tries to create around him.

Me, I don't even *believe* in the whole Sat Yuga 
thang, but I'm hoping that if there is such a thing,
there will still be room for the things that are
most uplifting about Kali Yuga -- love, humor, 
a sense of irony, humor, inappropriate jokes, and
humor.

With this in mind, here are a few of my nominations
for Films I'd Still Want To Watch In Sat Yuga:

Groundhog Day
City of Angels
Amélie
Don Juan de Marco
McCabe and Mrs. Miller
American Beauty
Mindwalk
Phenomenon
Conan the Barbarian
the Desperado trilogy
Yojimbo
The Usual Suspects
Romy and Michele's High School Reunion
Dirty Pretty Things
Becket
Aliens
Bubba Ho-Tep
Evil Dead II
The Name of the Rose
Immortal Beloved
Blade Runner
Buckaroo Banzai
Pow Wow Highway
A Fish Called Wanda
Highlander
Army of Darkness
L.A. Story
The Life of Brian
Young Frankenstein


What are yours?






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[FairfieldLife] hindu temple vandalised in minnesota

2006-04-14 Thread rama krishna



dear friends,  hari om! i am sending a link caryying a news report dt. 8th April 2006 of a hindu temple being vandalised in minnesota.  http://www.startribune.com/462/story/359012.html  this is a very shocking and disturbingincident, which hurts the sentiments ofall the peace loving hindus the world over.   regrds  rama
	
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Favorite movies to watch in Sat Yuga

2006-04-14 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know about the rest of you, but I always
 cringe when I hear Maharishi talk about Sat Yuga
 being near, because he seems to imagine it as this
 oh-so-pure but OH-SO-BORING time/place, a lot like
 the environments he tries to create around him.
 
 Me, I don't even *believe* in the whole Sat Yuga 
 thang, but I'm hoping that if there is such a thing,
 there will still be room for the things that are
 most uplifting about Kali Yuga -- love, humor, 
 a sense of irony, humor, inappropriate jokes, and
 humor.
 
 With this in mind, here are a few of my nominations
 for Films I'd Still Want To Watch In Sat Yuga:
 
 Groundhog Day
 City of Angels
 Amélie
 Don Juan de Marco
 McCabe and Mrs. Miller
 American Beauty
 Mindwalk
 Phenomenon
 Conan the Barbarian
 the Desperado trilogy
 Yojimbo
 The Usual Suspects
 Romy and Michele's High School Reunion
 Dirty Pretty Things
 Becket
 Aliens
 Bubba Ho-Tep
 Evil Dead II
 The Name of the Rose
 Immortal Beloved
 Blade Runner
 Buckaroo Banzai
 Pow Wow Highway
 A Fish Called Wanda
 Highlander
 Army of Darkness
 L.A. Story
 The Life of Brian
 Young Frankenstein
 
 
 What are yours?


Thanks B, saved your list... there's a few I haven't seen.

JohnY





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Favorite movies to watch in Sat Yuga

2006-04-14 Thread at_man_and_brahman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know about the rest of you, but I always
 cringe when I hear Maharishi talk about Sat Yuga
 being near, because he seems to imagine it as this
 oh-so-pure but OH-SO-BORING time/place, a lot like
 the environments he tries to create around him.
 
 Me, I don't even *believe* in the whole Sat Yuga 
 thang, but I'm hoping that if there is such a thing,
 there will still be room for the things that are
 most uplifting about Kali Yuga -- love, humor, 
 a sense of irony, humor, inappropriate jokes, and
 humor.
 
 With this in mind, here are a few of my nominations
 for Films I'd Still Want To Watch In Sat Yuga:
 
 Groundhog Day
 City of Angels
 Amélie
 Don Juan de Marco
 McCabe and Mrs. Miller
 American Beauty
 Mindwalk
 Phenomenon
 Conan the Barbarian
 the Desperado trilogy
 Yojimbo
 The Usual Suspects
 Romy and Michele's High School Reunion
 Dirty Pretty Things
 Becket
 Aliens
 Bubba Ho-Tep
 Evil Dead II
 The Name of the Rose
 Immortal Beloved
 Blade Runner
 Buckaroo Banzai
 Pow Wow Highway
 A Fish Called Wanda
 Highlander
 Army of Darkness
 L.A. Story
 The Life of Brian
 Young Frankenstein
 
 
 What are yours?


Fight Club

Casablanca

Play It Again, Sam

Dr. Strangelove

2001, A Space Odyssey

Moulin Rouge

Being There

Head

All That Jazz

Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Peggy Sue Got Married

My Dinner with Andre

Citizen Kane

The Elephant Man

Edward Scissorhands

Harold and Maude

Bram Stoker's Dracula

Horror of the Blood Monsters

All That Jazz






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[FairfieldLife] Re: A point many have missed about David Lynch's success 'selling' TM

2006-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ 
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  Perhaps, could be some form of demonic possession?
 
 Now I've finally heard the ultimate in self-importance,
 a headache as an indication of demon possession.
 
 No sex for you tonight, honey...I'se been possessed
 by a demon.  Go feel your *own* body...


Since sneezing was once considered dangerous because it could lead to 
the soul escaping from the body, and since migraine headaches HAVE been 
considered signs of demonic possession IIRC, you need to get out more...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Favorite movies to watch in Sat Yuga

2006-04-14 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I don't know about the rest of you, but I always
  cringe when I hear Maharishi talk about Sat Yuga
  being near, because he seems to imagine it as this
  oh-so-pure but OH-SO-BORING time/place, a lot like
  the environments he tries to create around him.
  
  Me, I don't even *believe* in the whole Sat Yuga 
  thang, but I'm hoping that if there is such a thing,
  there will still be room for the things that are
  most uplifting about Kali Yuga -- love, humor, 
  a sense of irony, humor, inappropriate jokes, and
  humor.
  
  With this in mind, here are a few of my nominations
  for Films I'd Still Want To Watch In Sat Yuga:
  
  Groundhog Day
  City of Angels
  Amélie
  Don Juan de Marco
  McCabe and Mrs. Miller
  American Beauty
  Mindwalk
  Phenomenon
  Conan the Barbarian
  the Desperado trilogy
  Yojimbo
  The Usual Suspects
  Romy and Michele's High School Reunion
  Dirty Pretty Things
  Becket
  Aliens
  Bubba Ho-Tep
  Evil Dead II
  The Name of the Rose
  Immortal Beloved
  Blade Runner
  Buckaroo Banzai
  Pow Wow Highway
  A Fish Called Wanda
  Highlander
  Army of Darkness
  L.A. Story
  The Life of Brian
  Young Frankenstein
  
  
  What are yours?
 
 
 Fight Club
 
 Casablanca
 
 Play It Again, Sam
 
 Dr. Strangelove
 
 2001, A Space Odyssey
 
 Moulin Rouge
 
 Being There
 
 Head
 
 All That Jazz
 
 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
 
 Peggy Sue Got Married
 
 My Dinner with Andre
 
 Citizen Kane
 
 The Elephant Man
 
 Edward Scissorhands
 
 Harold and Maude
 
 Bram Stoker's Dracula
 
 Horror of the Blood Monsters
 
 All That Jazz (you gonna watch that twice?)

Here's a very inexpert and indiscriminate list of temporary favorates
by me:

Hero

Stargate

Matrix I

Mulholland Drive (yes, really I liked it!)

Devdas (Bollywood with Aishwarya Rai)

Veer and Zara

Meera (with MS Subbulakshmi, something I'd love to see but couldn't
yet get hold on)





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Advaita - - -

2006-04-14 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, surya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 at the lotus feet of shri datta swami
 surya
 www.universal-spirituality.org

please insert the following line into the head area of each document:

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Advaita - - -

2006-04-14 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, surya dattapr2000@ wrote:
 
  at the lotus feet of shri datta swami
  surya
  www.universal-spirituality.org
 
 please insert the following line into the head area of each document:
 
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For the same reason the Kapalika followers killed Sankara .. 
http://www.universal-spirituality.org/swamiwho.htm
Never heart this before. Whats the story?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Advaita - - -

2006-04-14 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, surya dattapr2000@ wrote:
 
  at the lotus feet of shri datta swami
  surya
  www.universal-spirituality.org
 
 please insert the following line into the head area of each document:
 
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better:
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Favorite movies to watch in Sat Yuga

2006-04-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe you can take the Boddhisattva Movie Vow -- to remain
 unenlighteened life after life until all sentient beings have seen 
all
 of these movies.
 
Ha Ha! Hey, isn't that Roger Ebert, the Movie Buddha's job?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I don't know about the rest of you, but I always
  cringe when I hear Maharishi talk about Sat Yuga
  being near, because he seems to imagine it as this
  oh-so-pure but OH-SO-BORING time/place, a lot like
  the environments he tries to create around him.
  
  Me, I don't even *believe* in the whole Sat Yuga 
  thang, but I'm hoping that if there is such a thing,
  there will still be room for the things that are
  most uplifting about Kali Yuga -- love, humor, 
  a sense of irony, humor, inappropriate jokes, and
  humor.
  
  With this in mind, here are a few of my nominations
  for Films I'd Still Want To Watch In Sat Yuga:
  
  Groundhog Day
  City of Angels
  Amélie
  Don Juan de Marco
  McCabe and Mrs. Miller
  American Beauty
  Mindwalk
  Phenomenon
  Conan the Barbarian
  the Desperado trilogy
  Yojimbo
  The Usual Suspects
  Romy and Michele's High School Reunion
  Dirty Pretty Things
  Becket
  Aliens
  Bubba Ho-Tep
  Evil Dead II
  The Name of the Rose
  Immortal Beloved
  Blade Runner
  Buckaroo Banzai
  Pow Wow Highway
  A Fish Called Wanda
  Highlander
  Army of Darkness
  L.A. Story
  The Life of Brian
  Young Frankenstein
  
  
  What are yours?
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Favorite movies to watch in Sat Yuga

2006-04-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman
 at_man_and_brahman@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   I don't know about the rest of you, but I always
   cringe when I hear Maharishi talk about Sat Yuga
   being near, because he seems to imagine it as this
   oh-so-pure but OH-SO-BORING time/place, a lot like
   the environments he tries to create around him.
   
   Me, I don't even *believe* in the whole Sat Yuga 
   thang, but I'm hoping that if there is such a thing,
   there will still be room for the things that are
   most uplifting about Kali Yuga -- love, humor, 
   a sense of irony, humor, inappropriate jokes, and
   humor.
   
   With this in mind, here are a few of my nominations
   for Films I'd Still Want To Watch In Sat Yuga:
   
   Groundhog Day
   City of Angels
   Amélie
   Don Juan de Marco
   McCabe and Mrs. Miller
   American Beauty
   Mindwalk
   Phenomenon
   Conan the Barbarian
   the Desperado trilogy
   Yojimbo
   The Usual Suspects
   Romy and Michele's High School Reunion
   Dirty Pretty Things
   Becket
   Aliens
   Bubba Ho-Tep
   Evil Dead II
   The Name of the Rose
   Immortal Beloved
   Blade Runner
   Buckaroo Banzai
   Pow Wow Highway
   A Fish Called Wanda
   Highlander
   Army of Darkness
   L.A. Story
   The Life of Brian
   Young Frankenstein
   
   
   What are yours?
  
  
  Fight Club
  
  Casablanca
  
  Play It Again, Sam
  
  Dr. Strangelove
  
  2001, A Space Odyssey
  
  Moulin Rouge
  
  Being There
  
  Head
  
  All That Jazz
  
  Monty Python and the Holy Grail
  
  Peggy Sue Got Married
  
  My Dinner with Andre
  
  Citizen Kane
  
  The Elephant Man
  
  Edward Scissorhands
  
  Harold and Maude
  
  Bram Stoker's Dracula
  
  Horror of the Blood Monsters
  
  All That Jazz (you gonna watch that twice?)
 
 Here's a very inexpert and indiscriminate list of temporary 
favorates
 by me:
 
 Hero
 
 Stargate
 
 Matrix I
 
 Mulholland Drive (yes, really I liked it!)
 
 Devdas (Bollywood with Aishwarya Rai)
 
 Veer and Zara
 
 Meera (with MS Subbulakshmi, something I'd love to see but couldn't
 yet get hold on)

and my favorite actors and actresses for the 'ooga booga yuga':

johhny depp
jason lee
geena davis
ashley judd
deniro
pacino
nicholson
brando
val kilmer

william holden
jimmy stewart
kim novak
audrey hepburn
cary grant
ray milland

meryl streep
leonardo decaprio
tom hanks
julia roberts
george clooney
jason statham
tom cruise
tommy lee jones 

bill murray
john travolta
kevin spacey
gwennyth paltrow
kenneth branaugh
glenn close
diane lane
demi moore





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[FairfieldLife] Re: WHO IS GAYATRI ?

2006-04-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
cardemaister wrote:
 Well, whadya know! Never thought about that. What is
 yer favourite pronunciation of gayatri (gaayatrii =
 to be sung??) like? (For instance: gay a try?).
 The correct pronunciation is something like
 gar(esp. British)-yah-trrree.

Very impressive. So, you're a Sanskrit reader?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- Rick posted this announcement:
 
  This evening (holland time), full moon day, in the Global Family 
Chat, Raja
  Wilhelm declared that Holland is now invincible.  Because it has 
reached the
  required number of yogic flyers needed for the country.  Holland 
is now
  enjoying integrated national consciousness and is now a rising 
star in the
  family of nations.
 
 Gee, I hope.
 
 The New Yorker ran an article recently about the state 
 of affairs in the Netherlands. (Sorry I can't find it to 
 include a link here.) They actually have a rather 
 unintegrated social structure there, from what I 
 gathered from the article. The Protestants and the 
 Catholics and the Humanists and the Muslims all 
 have their own worlds. The image given was of 
 separate pillars holding up one roof. 
 
 All these groups went about their business without 
 much conflict until recently. Now, disgruntled Muslims 
 are using the internet to plan violent actions against 
 the others. The police are guarding something like 
 20 public figures from Islamist death threats. (You'll
 recall filmmaker Theo van Gogh was killed after
 making a movie about Muslim violence toward
 women.)
 
 If the Netherlands go without assassinations and 
 riots, I might be inclined to believe it's risen to 
 the optimistic levels of social coherence that Raja 
 Wilhelm decrees above. But if I read of sectarian 
 killings or riots, I'm going to file the good Raja's 
 claim in the same file that has decrees about Mugabe's 
 invincibility, Fairfield's pundits and other 
 announcements of that ilk.

Sorry, can't take it seriously. Even if it is so, its like placing 
one drop of blue ink in ten gallons of water, and declaring the 
water blue.

I don't discount the efforts for peace and invincibility in Holland, 
just that such a  pronouncement is very premature. Possibly more for 
the aggrandizement of the Raja than anything else...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- Rick posted this announcement:
 
  This evening (holland time), full moon day, in the Global Family
Chat, Raja
  Wilhelm declared that Holland is now invincible.  Because it has
reached the
  required number of yogic flyers needed for the country.  Holland
is now
  enjoying integrated national consciousness and is now a rising
star in the
  family of nations.

http://www.amsterdam.info/coffeeshops/

Raja Wilhelm made the announcemnt from a temporaty throne set up in
CoffeeShop  Pink Floyd -- and he then led his entourage, all giggling
at the joy of the occasion, for a similar announcement down at cafe
MellowYellow where he also blessed the plans for the 2006 Cannabis Cup
-- to be renamed The World Peace and Enlightenment Natural Law Cup

http://images.google.com/images?q=amsterdam%20cannabis%20cupsourceid=mozilla-searchie=utf-8oe=utf-8client=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialpercentage_served=100sa=Ntab=wi

http://www.high-land.co.uk/cannabis-cup.html

http://brianx.com/travel-guide/cannabis-cup-amsterdam.html

http://www.2camels.com/destination122.php3


Viceroy Write (aka Viceroy All Ways Right) was named Head (giggle) of
the upcoming World Marijuana Flm Festival.
http://www.cannabiscup.com/ht/cancup/content.php?bid=138aid=9






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
 fairfieldlife@ wrote:
 
  This evening (holland time), full moon day, in the Global 
  Family Chat, Raja Wilhelm declared that Holland is now 
  invincible.  Because it has reached the required number 
  of yogic flyers needed for the country.  Holland is now
  enjoying integrated national consciousness and is now a 
  rising star in the family of nations.
 
 Cool.  I just checked online, and it seems that all
 the same sources for porn, prostitution, and legal
 dope are still active in Amsterdam.  This is good 
 news for those who were afraid that Sat Yuga would
 be more boring than Heaven on a Saturday night,
 because it proves that these things are supported
 by the Laws Of Nature and will still be welcome in
 Sat Yuga.  :-)

Yeah-- make love, not war
Not just a good idea, it's the law







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@
 wrote:
 
  --- Rick posted this announcement:
  
   This evening (holland time), full moon day, in the Global 
Family
 Chat, Raja
   Wilhelm declared that Holland is now invincible.  Because it 
has
 reached the
   required number of yogic flyers needed for the country.  
Holland
 is now
   enjoying integrated national consciousness and is now a rising
 star in the
   family of nations.
 
 http://www.amsterdam.info/coffeeshops/
 
 Raja Wilhelm made the announcemnt from a temporaty throne set up in
 CoffeeShop  Pink Floyd -- and he then led his entourage, all 
giggling
 at the joy of the occasion, for a similar announcement down at cafe
 MellowYellow where he also blessed the plans for the 2006 Cannabis 
Cup
 -- to be renamed The World Peace and Enlightenment Natural Law 
Cup
 
 http://images.google.com/images?q=amsterdam%20cannabis%
20cupsourceid=mozilla-searchie=utf-8oe=utf-8client=firefox-
arls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialpercentage_served=100sa=Ntab=wi
 
 http://www.high-land.co.uk/cannabis-cup.html
 
 http://brianx.com/travel-guide/cannabis-cup-amsterdam.html
 
 http://www.2camels.com/destination122.php3
 
 
 Viceroy Write (aka Viceroy All Ways Right) was named Head (giggle) 
of
 the upcoming World Marijuana Flm Festival.
 http://www.cannabiscup.com/ht/cancup/content.php?bid=138aid=9

All I can say is Bevan better not visit invincible Holland anytime 
soon, what with munchies and all...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 This evening (holland time), full moon 
 day, in the Global Family Chat, Raja
 Wilhelm declared that Holland is now invincible.
  Because it has reached the required number of 
 yogic flyers needed for the country.  Holland is now
 enjoying integrated national consciousness 
 and is now a rising star in the family of nations.
   
 Jai Guru Dev

This will make Donald Rumsfeld a tad insecure.
It sounds like a right royal challenge.
I expect that paraffin is flowing into the wing tanks 
of the B2s as we speak.
Uns.






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[FairfieldLife] Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread markmeredith2002
From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15

MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, announced it
will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights starting in
July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate with the
manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said Tuesday. Our
business travelers must have lived good past lives to deserve this.
Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry in
customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about cooking
fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that flight
attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach Caste, which
is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/14/06 10:05:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From The 
  Onion  April 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15MUMBAI—Air India, the 
  subcontinent's largest airline, announced itwill offer upgraded Business 
  Caste seating on all flights starting inJuly. "More legroom, wider 
  seats—and no need to associate with themanual laborers," a spokesman for 
  the airline said Tuesday. "Ourbusiness travelers must have lived good past 
  lives to deserve this."Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline 
  industry incustomer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about 
  cookingfires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that 
  flightattendants refuse to remove, and the "Untouchable" Coach Caste, 
  whichis towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap 
sack.

But butBut... where do the Hindu wannabes get to 
sit?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
 
 MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, announced it
 will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights starting in
 July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate with the
 manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said Tuesday. Our
 business travelers must have lived good past lives to deserve this.
 Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry in
 customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about cooking
 fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that flight
 attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach Caste, which
 is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.

LOL.  A classic...









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Advaita and Western Neo-Advaita

2006-04-14 Thread brahmachari108


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108
 brahmachari108@ wrote:
snip
  This statement is indicative of the Kali Yuga,  Where righteousness
 is considered 
  unrighteous and unrighteousness is taken for Truth.
  Lazy.
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You have it wrong way round Brahmachari, striving is Kali-Yuga,
 effortless awareness is Sat-Yuga. See here (not the words easy,
 effortless, natural, relaxed):
 
snip

Last I heard Lord Krishna's incarnation ended a bit over 5000 years ago. Isn't 
that the 
harbinger of Kali Yuga? How many hundreds of thousands of years until this yuga 
ends 
and another round starts with Krita Yuga? 

To think any other yuga is happening sounds like major mood making.








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[FairfieldLife] 'Home of the Free'

2006-04-14 Thread Robert Gimbel
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
 fairfieldlife@
   wrote:
   
on 4/13/06 6:06 PM, Sal Sunshine at salsunshine@ wrote:
   
 Does that mean everybody now gets free chocolate?

Free chocolate, free sex, free marijuana.

 
I suppose our market on freedom, and spreading it around the world is 
another bogus claim of the United States.

Perhaps the U.S. can take an example of Holland's freedom.
And give up on it's a hypocritical right wing theocracy.

As far as Donald Rumsfeld having the time to be interested in 
studying a free society, such as Holland;
I would think he is too busy defending his policies being in question 
by many Generals and commanders speaking up to suggest he(Donald)   
quit, be fired, tar and feathered, or all of the above.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
 
 MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, announced it
 will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights starting in
 July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate with the
 manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said Tuesday. Our
 business travelers must have lived good past lives to deserve this.
 Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry in
 customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about cooking
 fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that flight
 attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach Caste, which
 is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.

But they are receiving strong competition from upstart TransLove
Airlines -- Guaranteed to get ya THERE on time.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Advaita and Western Neo-Advaita

2006-04-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108
  brahmachari108@ wrote:
 snip
   This statement is indicative of the Kali Yuga,  Where 
righteousness
  is considered 
   unrighteous and unrighteousness is taken for Truth.
   Lazy.
  
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
 
  You have it wrong way round Brahmachari, striving is Kali-Yuga,
  effortless awareness is Sat-Yuga. See here (not the words easy,
  effortless, natural, relaxed):
  
 snip
 
 Last I heard Lord Krishna's incarnation ended a bit over 5000 
years ago. Isn't that the 
 harbinger of Kali Yuga? How many hundreds of thousands of years 
until this yuga ends 
 and another round starts with Krita Yuga? 
 
 To think any other yuga is happening sounds like major mood making.

One way to look at the proclamation of Sat Yuga is that it 
emphasizes the contrast between what is supposedly occuring 
externally, the dawning of a golden age, and the inner atate of the 
seeker. Shakes things up, with the aspirant then asking themselves 
something like, If things are meant to be so good, why do I feel so 
bad?

...and yeah, some ultimately extend their suffering by mood making...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)

2006-04-14 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Dan Fylstra, the founder of Personal Software/VisiCorp
 was also a TM meditator and was married to a governor.
 He had a few Cambridge Center sidhis working for him
 back in 1978. I was one of them. 
  
 http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,116166,pg,3,00.asp

Did Dan Bricklin do any meditation?

Tell us some good early insider VisiCalc stories.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- Rick posted this announcement:
 
  This evening (holland time), full moon day, in the Global Family 
Chat, Raja
  Wilhelm declared that Holland is now invincible.  Because it has 
reached the
  required number of yogic flyers needed for the country.  Holland 
is now
  enjoying integrated national consciousness and is now a rising 
star in the
  family of nations.
 
 Gee, I hope.
 
 The New Yorker ran an article recently about the state 
 of affairs in the Netherlands. (Sorry I can't find it to 
 include a link here.) They actually have a rather 
 unintegrated social structure there, from what I 
 gathered from the article. The Protestants and the 
 Catholics and the Humanists and the Muslims all 
 have their own worlds. The image given was of 
 separate pillars holding up one roof. 
 
 All these groups went about their business without 
 much conflict until recently. Now, disgruntled Muslims 
 are using the internet to plan violent actions against 
 the others. The police are guarding something like 
 20 public figures from Islamist death threats. (You'll
 recall filmmaker Theo van Gogh was killed after
 making a movie about Muslim violence toward
 women.)
 
 If the Netherlands go without assassinations and 
 riots, I might be inclined to believe it's risen to 
 the optimistic levels of social coherence that Raja 
 Wilhelm decrees above. But if I read of sectarian 
 killings or riots, I'm going to file the good Raja's 
 claim in the same file that has decrees about Mugabe's 
 invincibility, Fairfield's pundits and other 
 announcements of that ilk.


A little black and white in your thinking, aren't you? What if there 
is only a drastic reduction in vioence rather than 100% reduction?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread sparaig
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[...]
 I don't discount the efforts for peace and invincibility in Holland, 
 just that such a  pronouncement is very premature. Possibly more for 
 the aggrandizement of the Raja than anything else...


It's typical TMO speak where you been?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Favorite movies to watch in Sat Yuga

2006-04-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe you can take the Boddhisattva Movie Vow -- to remain
 unenlighteened life after life until all sentient beings 
 have seen all of these movies.

Wonderful concept!  I give you fair warning...I plan
to steal this idea...  :-)

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I don't know about the rest of you, but I always
  cringe when I hear Maharishi talk about Sat Yuga
  being near, because he seems to imagine it as this
  oh-so-pure but OH-SO-BORING time/place, a lot like
  the environments he tries to create around him.
  
  Me, I don't even *believe* in the whole Sat Yuga 
  thang, but I'm hoping that if there is such a thing,
  there will still be room for the things that are
  most uplifting about Kali Yuga -- love, humor, 
  a sense of irony, humor, inappropriate jokes, and
  humor.
  
  With this in mind, here are a few of my nominations
  for Films I'd Still Want To Watch In Sat Yuga:
  
  Groundhog Day
  City of Angels
  Amélie
  Don Juan de Marco
  McCabe and Mrs. Miller
  American Beauty
  Mindwalk
  Phenomenon
  Conan the Barbarian
  the Desperado trilogy
  Yojimbo
  The Usual Suspects
  Romy and Michele's High School Reunion
  Dirty Pretty Things
  Becket
  Aliens
  Bubba Ho-Tep
  Evil Dead II
  The Name of the Rose
  Immortal Beloved
  Blade Runner
  Buckaroo Banzai
  Pow Wow Highway
  A Fish Called Wanda
  Highlander
  Army of Darkness
  L.A. Story
  The Life of Brian
  Young Frankenstein
  
  
  What are yours?
 







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Favorite movies to watch in Sat Yuga

2006-04-14 Thread Bhairitu
t3rinity wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:


I don't know about the rest of you, but I always
cringe when I hear Maharishi talk about Sat Yuga
being near, because he seems to imagine it as this
oh-so-pure but OH-SO-BORING time/place, a lot like
the environments he tries to create around him.

Me, I don't even *believe* in the whole Sat Yuga 
thang, but I'm hoping that if there is such a thing,
there will still be room for the things that are
most uplifting about Kali Yuga -- love, humor, 
a sense of irony, humor, inappropriate jokes, and
humor.

With this in mind, here are a few of my nominations
for Films I'd Still Want To Watch In Sat Yuga:

Groundhog Day
City of Angels
Amélie
Don Juan de Marco
McCabe and Mrs. Miller
American Beauty
Mindwalk
Phenomenon
Conan the Barbarian
the Desperado trilogy
Yojimbo
The Usual Suspects
Romy and Michele's High School Reunion
Dirty Pretty Things
Becket
Aliens
Bubba Ho-Tep
Evil Dead II
The Name of the Rose
Immortal Beloved
Blade Runner
Buckaroo Banzai
Pow Wow Highway
A Fish Called Wanda
Highlander
Army of Darkness
L.A. Story
The Life of Brian
Young Frankenstein


What are yours?

  

Fight Club

Casablanca

Play It Again, Sam

Dr. Strangelove

2001, A Space Odyssey

Moulin Rouge

Being There

Head

All That Jazz

Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Peggy Sue Got Married

My Dinner with Andre

Citizen Kane

The Elephant Man

Edward Scissorhands

Harold and Maude

Bram Stoker's Dracula

Horror of the Blood Monsters

All That Jazz (you gonna watch that twice?)



Here's a very inexpert and indiscriminate list of temporary favorates
by me:

Hero

Stargate

Matrix I

Mulholland Drive (yes, really I liked it!)

Devdas (Bollywood with Aishwarya Rai)

Veer and Zara

Meera (with MS Subbulakshmi, something I'd love to see but couldn't
yet get hold on)


  

Meera should be available at your local Indian grocery on DVD.  Oh don't 
have a local Indian grocery?  There are several Indian online rental 
places and Netflix does have some Indian movies to so you might check there.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: A point many have missed about David Lynch's success 'selling' TM

2006-04-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
babajii_99@ 
  wrote:
  
   Perhaps, could be some form of demonic possession?
  
  Now I've finally heard the ultimate in self-importance,
  a headache as an indication of demon possession.
  
  No sex for you tonight, honey...I'se been possessed
  by a demon.  Go feel your *own* body...
 
 Since sneezing was once considered dangerous because it 
 could lead to the soul escaping from the body, and since 
 migraine headaches HAVE been considered signs of demonic 
 possession IIRC, you need to get out more...

The bottom line with 'demonic possession' is that
those who believe in it also tend to beleive that
they are important enough in the cosmic scheme of
things that a demon would bother to possess them.
In other words, it's a self importance thang.  :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: A point many have missed about David Lynch's success 'selling' TM

2006-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
 babajii_99@ 
   wrote:
   
Perhaps, could be some form of demonic possession?
   
   Now I've finally heard the ultimate in self-importance,
   a headache as an indication of demon possession.
   
   No sex for you tonight, honey...I'se been possessed
   by a demon.  Go feel your *own* body...
  
  Since sneezing was once considered dangerous because it 
  could lead to the soul escaping from the body, and since 
  migraine headaches HAVE been considered signs of demonic 
  possession IIRC, you need to get out more...
 
 The bottom line with 'demonic possession' is that
 those who believe in it also tend to beleive that
 they are important enough in the cosmic scheme of
 things that a demon would bother to possess them.
 In other words, it's a self importance thang.  :-)


Actually, demons are so desperate they'll take anyone's body, is the 
traditional storyline: the weaker, the better since they can't fight 
as well.

You've seen Bubba Hotep.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Favorite movies to watch in Sat Yuga

2006-04-14 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:

I don't know about the rest of you, but I always
cringe when I hear Maharishi talk about Sat Yuga
being near, because he seems to imagine it as this
oh-so-pure but OH-SO-BORING time/place, a lot like
the environments he tries to create around him.

Me, I don't even *believe* in the whole Sat Yuga 
thang, but I'm hoping that if there is such a thing,
there will still be room for the things that are
most uplifting about Kali Yuga -- love, humor, 
a sense of irony, humor, inappropriate jokes, and
humor.

With this in mind, here are a few of my nominations
for Films I'd Still Want To Watch In Sat Yuga:

Groundhog Day
City of Angels
Amélie
Don Juan de Marco
McCabe and Mrs. Miller
American Beauty
Mindwalk
Phenomenon
Conan the Barbarian
the Desperado trilogy
Yojimbo
The Usual Suspects
Romy and Michele's High School Reunion
Dirty Pretty Things
Becket
Aliens
Bubba Ho-Tep
Evil Dead II
The Name of the Rose
Immortal Beloved
Blade Runner
Buckaroo Banzai
Pow Wow Highway
A Fish Called Wanda
Highlander
Army of Darkness
L.A. Story
The Life of Brian
Young Frankenstein


What are yours?

  

(a short list:)
Crash
V for Vendetta
Inside Man
Mail Order Wife
Eye
Eye2



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
 
 MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, announced it
 will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights starting in
 July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate with the
 manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said Tuesday. Our
 business travelers must have lived good past lives to deserve this.
 Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry in
 customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about cooking
 fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that flight
 attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach Caste, which
 is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.


My one caste experience from India: I was there in '81 or '82 (can't 
remember which) for about 5 weeks, mostly spent in Kashmir but also 
Dehli and Agra (for one hot day seeing the greatly disappointing Taj 
Mahal which I expected to be more like Disneyland.  Highly 
disappointed):

In Dehli, I was going to a restaurant in a high-brow hotel and went by 
one of those motorized rickshaws...you know, the ones that look like 
they were made from metal drums fashioned over a motorcycle.  Anyway, 
the driver wouldn't let me out right at the front door but at the end 
of the driveway.  I asked him why and he motioned something to me 
which I didn't understand (couldn't speak English).  So I demanded 
that he bring me right up to the front door and when he finally did 
the doorman berated him viciously.  On questioning one of the more 
official-looking hotel employees once I got in I learned that his 
caste wasn't allowed near the hotel.

As for the other part of the Onion story about lighting fires on the 
airplane, that isn't too far off the mark.  Going home on the Pan Am 
747 from Dehli airport, within one hour of being in the air, the 
bathrooms were full of shit all over the seats and floor.  Why?  
Apparently, leaving Dehli are many first-time fliers and they have 
never used Western toilets so they get all confused in the little 
space and they crouch up on top of the hole and end up shitting 
every where.

I held it in until Bahrain.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/14/06 11:50:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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As for 
  the other part of the Onion story about lighting fires on the airplane, 
  that isn't too far off the mark. Going home on the Pan Am 747 from 
  Dehli airport, within one hour of being in the air, the bathrooms were 
  full of shit all over the seats and floor. Why? Apparently, 
  leaving Dehli are many first-time fliers and they have never used Western 
  toilets so they get all confused in the little space and they crouch up on 
  top of the "hole" and end up shitting every where.I held it in 
  until Bahrain.

Probably a lot of people with the Dehli Belly also and 
couldn't control their bowls!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
 [...]
  I don't discount the efforts for peace and invincibility in 
Holland, 
  just that such a  pronouncement is very premature. Possibly more 
for 
  the aggrandizement of the Raja than anything else...
 
 
 It's typical TMO speak where you been?

Hearing it for too long...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
 
 MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, announced it
 will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights starting in
 July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate with the
 manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said Tuesday. Our
 business travelers must have lived good past lives to deserve this.
 Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry in
 customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about cooking
 fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that flight
 attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach Caste, which
 is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.

Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- sparaig wrote:

 --- Gillam wrote:
 
  --- Rick posted this announcement:
  
   This evening (holland time), full moon day, 
   in the Global Family Chat, Raja Wilhelm 
   declared that Holland is now invincible.  
  
  Gee, I hope.
  
[snip]
  
  If the Netherlands go without assassinations and 
  riots, I might be inclined to believe it's risen to 
  the optimistic levels of social coherence that Raja 
  Wilhelm decrees above. 
 
 A little black and white in your thinking, aren't you? What if there 
 is only a drastic reduction in vioence rather than 100% reduction?

My point is, Holland is something of a geopolitical flash 
point right now in terms of the Islamist leanings of many 
of its citizens. It's a great place to falsify any claims of invincibility.

I don't pay close attention to Holland's doings. If something 
happens there that's bad enough to catch my attention, I'll 
know Raja Wilhelm spoke too soon. 

If - and it's a big if - in coming years I read an article about 
how the Netherlands is setting an example of how to reconcile 
Islam and the West, I may go so far as to think, Maybe Raja 
Wilhelm was on to something.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
 markmeredith@ wrote:
 
  From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
  
  MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, announced 
it
  will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights 
starting in
  July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate with 
the
  manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said Tuesday. Our
  business travelers must have lived good past lives to deserve 
this.
  Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry in
  customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about 
cooking
  fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that 
flight
  attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach Caste, 
which
  is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.
 
 Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?


Um, did you see the byline, Judy?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Home of the Free'

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
snip
 As far as Donald Rumsfeld having the time to be interested in 
 studying a free society, such as Holland;
 I would think he is too busy defending his policies being in
 question by many Generals and commanders speaking up to suggest he
 (Donald) quit, be fired, tar and feathered, or all of the above.

He says it doesn't bother him or surprise him at all.
Happens all the time, he says.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- sparaig wrote:
 
  --- Gillam wrote:
  
   --- Rick posted this announcement:
   
This evening (holland time), full moon day, 
in the Global Family Chat, Raja Wilhelm 
declared that Holland is now invincible.  
   
   Gee, I hope.
   
 [snip]
   
   If the Netherlands go without assassinations and 
   riots, I might be inclined to believe it's risen to 
   the optimistic levels of social coherence that Raja 
   Wilhelm decrees above. 
  
  A little black and white in your thinking, aren't you? What if 
there 
  is only a drastic reduction in vioence rather than 100% 
reduction?
 
 My point is, Holland is something of a geopolitical flash 
 point right now in terms of the Islamist leanings of many 
 of its citizens. It's a great place to falsify any claims of 
invincibility.
 
 I don't pay close attention to Holland's doings. If something 
 happens there that's bad enough to catch my attention, I'll 
 know Raja Wilhelm spoke too soon. 




Is Raja Wilhelm the one who does kidsha?

(on another note: I can't believe I'm actually addressing the guy by 
his title!)



 
 If - and it's a big if - in coming years I read an article about 
 how the Netherlands is setting an example of how to reconcile 
 Islam and the West, I may go so far as to think, Maybe Raja 
 Wilhelm was on to something.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: A point many have missed about David Lynch's success 'selling' TM

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
 babajii_99@ 
   wrote:
   
Perhaps, could be some form of demonic possession?
   
   Now I've finally heard the ultimate in self-importance,
   a headache as an indication of demon possession.
   
   No sex for you tonight, honey...I'se been possessed
   by a demon.  Go feel your *own* body...
  
  Since sneezing was once considered dangerous because it 
  could lead to the soul escaping from the body, and since 
  migraine headaches HAVE been considered signs of demonic 
  possession IIRC, you need to get out more...
 
 The bottom line with 'demonic possession' is that
 those who believe in it also tend to beleive that
 they are important enough in the cosmic scheme of
 things that a demon would bother to possess them.
 In other words, it's a self importance thang.  :-)

Actually, ANYTHING a TMer says, in BarryWorld, is a 
self-importance thang or an elitist thang or an
indication that they're envious of the experiences of
non-TMers because they themselves have never had any.

Take your pick, but those are the only three choices.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
  markmeredith@ wrote:
  
   From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
   
   MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, announced 
 it
   will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights 
 starting in
   July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate with 
 the
   manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said Tuesday. Our
   business travelers must have lived good past lives to deserve 
 this.
   Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry in
   customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about 
 cooking
   fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that 
 flight
   attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach Caste, 
 which
   is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.
  
  Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?
 
 
 Um, did you see the byline, Judy?

Yup, that's why it surprised me.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
 markmeredith@ wrote:
 
  From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
  
  MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, announced it
  will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights 
starting in
  July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate with the
  manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said Tuesday. Our
  business travelers must have lived good past lives to deserve 
this.
  Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry in
  customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about 
cooking
  fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that 
flight
  attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach Caste, 
which
  is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.
 
 Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?


Is Hindu a race?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread Patrick Gillam
---authfriend wrote:
 
 Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?

Probably. But I consider all such criticisms of humor 
to be category errors. In my world, humor cannot be 
racist, insensitive, unjustified or subject to any 
descriptors other than funny or not funny. 

All humor derives from something being wrong or 
out of the ordinary. To condemn it for being *too* 
wrong or *too* out of the ordinary seems to miss the 
point. To me, it's either amusing or not.

The greatest condemnation I can apply to a joke is 
not to be amused.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
  markmeredith@ wrote:
  
   From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
   
   MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, announced 
it
   will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights 
 starting in
   July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate with 
the
   manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said Tuesday. Our
   business travelers must have lived good past lives to deserve 
 this.
   Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry in
   customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about 
 cooking
   fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that 
 flight
   attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach Caste, 
 which
   is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.
  
  Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?
 
 
 Is Hindu a race?

Indian Hindus are generally brown people.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- sparaig wrote:
  --- Gillam wrote:
   --- Rick posted this announcement:
   
This evening (holland time), full moon day, 
in the Global Family Chat, Raja Wilhelm 
declared that Holland is now invincible.  
   
   Gee, I hope.
   
 [snip]
   
   If the Netherlands go without assassinations and 
   riots, I might be inclined to believe it's risen to 
   the optimistic levels of social coherence that Raja 
   Wilhelm decrees above. 
  
  A little black and white in your thinking, aren't you? 
  What if there is only a drastic reduction in vioence 
  rather than 100% reduction?
 
 My point is, Holland is something of a geopolitical flash 
 point right now in terms of the Islamist leanings of many 
 of its citizens. It's a great place to falsify any claims 
 of invincibility.
 
 I don't pay close attention to Holland's doings. If something 
 happens there that's bad enough to catch my attention, I'll 
 know Raja Wilhelm spoke too soon. 
 
 If - and it's a big if - in coming years I read an article about 
 how the Netherlands is setting an example of how to reconcile 
 Islam and the West, I may go so far as to think, Maybe Raja 
 Wilhelm was on to something.

It's certainly a good test case.  I've been to
Amsterdam many times in the last two decades, and 
in my opinion the country has grown more polarized 
and less tolerant with every visit.  The thin veneer
of liberality and tolerance that masks the ultra-
conservative Amsterdammer underneath is pretty 
frayed and worn thin.

The thing is, those who actually believe in the ME
and in Maharishi's pronouncements are going to see
examples of them wherever they look. Whatever *really*
happens in the Netherlands, TBs will see the trends
they expect to see, and skeptics will see the trends
that they expect to see.  It's just human nature.

It's like Bob Brigante, first in line to post any
news from the UK that indicates that Maharishi's
fatwa on England had some effect, but remarkably 
silent about the recent events in India, home of 
(according to him) most of the Maharishi pundits
and thus a strong candidate for being in tune
with Natural Law.

I wish the Netherlands luck.  As far as I can tell
from the time I've spent there, it's got a tough
time ahead of it.  I agree with the person who
described it as at a flash point.  That's it.
It's a country on the cusp of one of those major
chaos theory shifts.  








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- shempmcgurk wrote:

 Is Raja Wilhelm the one who does kidsha?
 
 (on another note: I can't believe I'm actually addressing the guy by 
 his title!)

You're doing it ironically. It's amusing.

Is kidsha shaktipat for minors? Dyslexic darshan, 
in which the Raja takes energy from other people?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ---authfriend wrote:
  
  Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?
 
 Probably. But I consider all such criticisms of humor 
 to be category errors. In my world, humor cannot be 
 racist, insensitive, unjustified or subject to any 
 descriptors other than funny or not funny. 
 
 All humor derives from something being wrong or 
 out of the ordinary. To condemn it for being *too* 
 wrong or *too* out of the ordinary seems to miss the 
 point. To me, it's either amusing or not.
 
 The greatest condemnation I can apply to a joke is 
 not to be amused.

Well said.

Humor is exempt.  It has immunity, and is beyond
the jurisdiction of political correctness.  







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
   markmeredith@ wrote:
   
From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15

MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, 
announced 
 it
will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights 
  starting in
July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate 
with 
 the
manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said 
Tuesday. Our
business travelers must have lived good past lives to deserve 
  this.
Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry in
customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about 
  cooking
fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that 
  flight
attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach 
Caste, 
  which
is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.
   
   Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?
  
  
  Is Hindu a race?
 
 Indian Hindus are generally brown people.


Hence the name Caucasian...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
 jpgillam@ wrote:
  ---authfriend wrote:
   
   Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?
  
  Probably. But I consider all such criticisms of humor 
  to be category errors. In my world, humor cannot be 
  racist, insensitive, unjustified or subject to any 
  descriptors other than funny or not funny. 
  
  All humor derives from something being wrong or 
  out of the ordinary. To condemn it for being *too* 
  wrong or *too* out of the ordinary seems to miss the 
  point. To me, it's either amusing or not.
  
  The greatest condemnation I can apply to a joke is 
  not to be amused.
 
 Well said.
 
 Humor is exempt.  It has immunity, and is beyond
 the jurisdiction of political correctness.


Mm... 

Did you hear the one about the two niggers?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 ---authfriend wrote:
  
  Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?
 
 Probably. But I consider all such criticisms of humor 
 to be category errors. In my world, humor cannot be 
 racist, insensitive, unjustified or subject to any 
 descriptors other than funny or not funny. 
 
 All humor derives from something being wrong or 
 out of the ordinary. To condemn it for being *too* 
 wrong or *too* out of the ordinary seems to miss the 
 point. To me, it's either amusing or not.
 
 The greatest condemnation I can apply to a joke is 
 not to be amused.

Interesting approach.

I didn't particularly mind the parts about caste, but
the bit about cooking fires and cows on the plane
struck me as unpleasantly and gratuitously derogatory.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
 jpgillam@ wrote:
  ---authfriend wrote:
   
   Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?
  
  Probably. But I consider all such criticisms of humor 
  to be category errors. In my world, humor cannot be 
  racist, insensitive, unjustified or subject to any 
  descriptors other than funny or not funny. 
  
  All humor derives from something being wrong or 
  out of the ordinary. To condemn it for being *too* 
  wrong or *too* out of the ordinary seems to miss the 
  point. To me, it's either amusing or not.
  
  The greatest condemnation I can apply to a joke is 
  not to be amused.
 
 Well said.
 
 Humor is exempt.  It has immunity, and is beyond
 the jurisdiction of political correctness.

And if a TMer suggests that not all humor has immunity,
it's a self-importance thang, you see.

(Note that Barry has already broken his vow to ignore
me.)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
markmeredith@ wrote:

 From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
 
 MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, 
 announced 
  it
 will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights 
   starting in
 July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate 
 with 
  the
 manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said 
 Tuesday. Our
 business travelers must have lived good past lives to 
deserve 
   this.
 Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry 
in
 customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints 
about 
   cooking
 fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows 
that 
   flight
 attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach 
 Caste, 
   which
 is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.

Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?
   
   
   Is Hindu a race?
  
  Indian Hindus are generally brown people.
 
 Hence the name Caucasian...

Non sequitur.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
  jpgillam@ wrote:
   ---authfriend wrote:

Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?
   
   Probably. But I consider all such criticisms of humor 
   to be category errors. In my world, humor cannot be 
   racist, insensitive, unjustified or subject to any 
   descriptors other than funny or not funny. 
   
   All humor derives from something being wrong or 
   out of the ordinary. To condemn it for being *too* 
   wrong or *too* out of the ordinary seems to miss the 
   point. To me, it's either amusing or not.
   
   The greatest condemnation I can apply to a joke is 
   not to be amused.
  
  Well said.
  
  Humor is exempt.  It has immunity, and is beyond
  the jurisdiction of political correctness.
 
 
 Mm... 
 
 Did you hear the one about the two niggers?

Yeah, wasn't the punchline something about all them
niggers want is tight pussy and a warm place to shit?






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
Yeah, but the part about the burlap sack behind the plane is hilarious and sure captures the spirit of it all!

Sal


On Apr 14, 2006, at 12:35 PM, authfriend wrote:

 I didn't particularly mind the parts about caste, but
 the bit about cooking fires and cows on the plane
 struck me as unpleasantly and gratuitously derogatory.


[FairfieldLife] Heresies

2006-04-14 Thread Patrick Gillam
Is it just me, or does anyone else perceive Passover 
as an act of terrorism? It commemorates the slaughter 
of Egyptian children as a means to persuade Pharaoh 
to make a political decision.



Perhaps the only way for the West to stand up to 
Islamist violence and still preserve the values of the 
West is to embrace Christ's teaching to turn the other 
cheek. Otherwise, the terrorists win. 



John 14:12 has Jesus saying, Truly, truly, I say to you, 
he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do 
also; and greater works than these he will do. But this 
hasn't happened. Silly Jesus.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 4/14/06 10:05:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 From The  OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
 
 MUMBAIâ€Air India, the  subcontinent's largest airline, announced it
 will offer upgraded Business  Caste seating on all flights starting in
 July. More legroom, wider  seatsâ€and no need to associate with the
 manual laborers, a spokesman for  the airline said Tuesday. Our
 business travelers must have lived good past  lives to deserve this.
 Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline  industry in
 customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about  cooking
 fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that  flight
 attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach Caste,  which
 is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap  sack.
 
 
 
 But but But... where do the Hindu wannabes get to  sit?


They don't. They just buy tickets.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Heresies

2006-04-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Is it just me, or does anyone else perceive Passover 
 as an act of terrorism? It commemorates the slaughter 
 of Egyptian children as a means to persuade Pharaoh 
 to make a political decision.

Fascinating, because the first known use of the
words 'terrorism' and 'terrorist' in the English 
press were to describe that actions of Jewish 
militants in Palestine, planting bombs to force 
the UN vote that created Israel.  

Historic deja vu, and all that...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Heresies

2006-04-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Is it just me, or does anyone else perceive Passover 
 as an act of terrorism? It commemorates the slaughter 
 of Egyptian children as a means to persuade Pharaoh 
 to make a political decision.

Fascinating, because the first known use of the
words 'terrorism' and 'terrorist' in the English 
press were to describe that actions of Jewish 
militants in Palestine, planting bombs to force 
the UN vote that created Israel.  

Historic deja vu, and all that...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  In a message dated 4/14/06 10:05:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  markmeredith@ writes:
  
  From The  OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
  
  MUMBAIâ€Air India, the  subcontinent's largest airline, 
announced it
  will offer upgraded Business  Caste seating on all flights 
starting in
  July. More legroom, wider  seatsâ€and no need to associate 
with the
  manual laborers, a spokesman for  the airline said Tuesday. Our
  business travelers must have lived good past  lives to deserve 
this.
  Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline  industry in
  customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about  
cooking
  fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that  
flight
  attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach Caste,  
which
  is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap  sack.
  
  
  
  But but But... where do the Hindu wannabes get to  sit?
 
 They don't. They just buy tickets.

And when the people at the gate tell them that 
their flight has been canceled because the pilots
couldn't get visas, they believe it and don't
even ask for their money back.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Heresies

2006-04-14 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Is it just me, or does anyone else perceive Passover 
 as an act of terrorism? It commemorates the slaughter 
 of Egyptian children as a means to persuade Pharaoh 
 to make a political decision.

No, but thank you for reminding all the Mad Mullahs out there who
might be lurking this site.  

 Perhaps the only way for the West to stand up to 
 Islamist violence and still preserve the values of the 
 West is to embrace Christ's teaching to turn the other 
 cheek. Otherwise, the terrorists win. 
 

This has already been tried, by the US since the Iranian revolution.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Heresies

2006-04-14 Thread Vaj
The Kabbalistic interpretation of the Exodus story is actually the  
story of the soul in bondage (Mizraim, the Hebrew word for Egypt  
means bondage)--and thus the journey is the expansion of soul till  
eventual union with God (on Mt. Sinai). The bondage is left behind  
when they cross the Red Sea, which is actually the soul attaining a  
higher level of existence till the vision of God face-to-face. I  
forget what the actual symbolism of the slain first-born is supposed  
to signify, but it's much deeper than terrorism.

On Apr 14, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:

 Is it just me, or does anyone else perceive Passover
 as an act of terrorism? It commemorates the slaughter
 of Egyptian children as a means to persuade Pharaoh
 to make a political decision.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Heresies

2006-04-14 Thread feste37
The US turned the other cheek? When did this happen? I must have missed it. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@
 wrote:
 
  Is it just me, or does anyone else perceive Passover 
  as an act of terrorism? It commemorates the slaughter 
  of Egyptian children as a means to persuade Pharaoh 
  to make a political decision.
 
 No, but thank you for reminding all the Mad Mullahs out there who
 might be lurking this site.  
 
  Perhaps the only way for the West to stand up to 
  Islamist violence and still preserve the values of the 
  West is to embrace Christ's teaching to turn the other 
  cheek. Otherwise, the terrorists win. 
  
 
 This has already been tried, by the US since the Iranian revolution.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread peterklutz

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
 jpgillam@ wrote:
 
snip
  If - and it's a big if - in coming years I read an article about 
  how the Netherlands is setting an example of how to reconcile 
  Islam and the West, I may go so far as to think, Maybe Raja 
  Wilhelm was on to something.

This is an example as good as any of the problem with the TMO: the
apparent inability of its members a/o critics to ignore what i's
founder is actually saying - let alone understand what He is saying
when they actually calm down enough to give Him some attention. 

What you are hinting at is a 'human' solution. 

The Rajas tool set is based on Natural Law which means that the
situation will be 'resolved' by the Natural Law meaning of that
concept in human affairs (i.e. resolved) - and not any human
assumptions about it.   

Here are a few guesses how this may play out:

(1) Islam has reached the end of its allotted life-span and dies
either by muslims converting to Judaism or Christianity or by becoming
secularized. A less probable process, given the Raja's tool set, is
Dutch Muslims being burned in their thousands at stakes along the
canals. A natural calamity could also kill them all, though such
calamities usually don't discriminate between who's who when they strike. 

(2) Muslims in Holland become more and truer Muslim as their cultural
integrity strenghtens, at the same time something else happens with
their mindset, something that makes them adopt a live-and-let-live
attitude toward their hosts and neighbours.

(3) Should the tools in the tool set prove to weak or be applied ion
the wrong manner, Muslims might win in their attempt to
Middle-Easternize the rest of the world - i.e. pull everyone else down
in to the gutter with them.

What ever will happen - do not expect a human government to be part of
any of the constructive possibilities listed above.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Home of the Free'

2006-04-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ 
 wrote:
 snip
  As far as Donald Rumsfeld having the time to be interested in 
  studying a free society, such as Holland;
  I would think he is too busy defending his policies being in
  question by many Generals and commanders speaking up to suggest he
  (Donald) quit, be fired, tar and feathered, or all of the above.
 
 He says it doesn't bother him or surprise him at all.
 Happens all the time, he says.

A perfect case, along with his cronies, of 'you can lead a horse to 
water...'. I see it reflected equally on the Dems' side. When they 
[probably]win Congress, we'll see if they have *any* initiative left...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: A point many have missed about David Lynch's success 'selling' TM

2006-04-14 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:

mercy snip

  [...] what David Lynch is doing [...] putting his own 
 beliefs out there, so much so he's willing to pay the 
 (outrageous!) cost of TM instruction for those who are 
 willing .. [another mercy snip] compare all these 
 approaches to the TM movement. It is *all* about 
 *profit*, and making money ...

The only way you can make plausible your it's-all-about-the-
 money
argument is by convincing your readers that MMY and the leaders 
 of 
   the
TMO is even dumber than yourself.

 and on the part of the teachers [...] it's ALL ABOUT THEM.  
 There is not an *ounce* of caring for the people who want 
 to learn, except that their check clears.  

I think you just might have stumbled on the real problem of the 
 TMO
here - all those bloated egos whose attitudes and 
 actions/inactions
for the last decades have ground the TMO to a halt.

And, given the sorry state of the average TM teacher/Governor, 
 how
could the movement be anything but a failure?
   
   But the recerts were able to raise the cash and are committed 
 enough 
   to jump throughthe hoops for recertification. Denise Deniston 
 Gerace 
   isn't a slacker by any means, and she and her husband are in 
 charge 
   of TM here in Tucson. He seems a good person as well and I tend 
 to 
   doubt that she would marry a dummy.
   
   They're holding this conference next week and have invited quite 
 a 
   few people. Don't know how many will show up. She was going 
 through 
   the list herself as we spoke.
   
   http://www.arizonastressfreeschools.org/
  
  
  Being a recert is hold sno guarantee of level of concsiousness than
  being a TM-teacher never was.
  
  Recerts are motivated just as diversely as their predecessors. 
  
  From what I've seen it could very well be that the most stressed
  people, who still hasn't got with this is all about, are those 
 that
  are now recertified.
 
 
 Denise doesn't come across as the most stressed person I've met in 
 the TMO but you're right, there's no doubt a variety of reasons why 
 people decided to get recerted.


I am happy to hear there are exceptions to my own experiences - which
are mostly European related. I am sure things are easier and more
hopeful in the New World (seriously).









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
   In a message dated 4/14/06 10:05:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
   markmeredith@ writes:
   
   From The  OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
   
   MUMBAIâ€Air India, the  subcontinent's largest airline, 
 announced it
   will offer upgraded Business  Caste seating on all flights 
 starting in
   July. More legroom, wider  seatsâ€and no need to associate 
 with the
   manual laborers, a spokesman for  the airline said Tuesday. Our
   business travelers must have lived good past  lives to deserve 
 this.
   Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline  industry in
   customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about  
 cooking
   fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that  
 flight
   attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach Caste,  
 which
   is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap  sack.
   
   
   
   But but But... where do the Hindu wannabes get to  sit?
  
  They don't. They just buy tickets.
 
 And when the people at the gate tell them that 
 their flight has been canceled because the pilots
 couldn't get visas, they believe it and don't
 even ask for their money back.


Ya, that's the ..er.. ticket.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Heresies

2006-04-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@
 wrote:
 
  Is it just me, or does anyone else perceive Passover 
  as an act of terrorism? It commemorates the slaughter 
  of Egyptian children as a means to persuade Pharaoh 
  to make a political decision.
 
 No, but thank you for reminding all the Mad Mullahs out there who
 might be lurking this site.  
 
  Perhaps the only way for the West to stand up to 
  Islamist violence and still preserve the values of the 
  West is to embrace Christ's teaching to turn the other 
  cheek. Otherwise, the terrorists win. 
  
 
 This has already been tried, by the US since the Iranian 
revolution.

So before the Iranian revolution, a CIA fomented coup overthrew the 
legitimately elected president of Iran, and installed the Shah, 
who's CIA trained secret police SAVAK had a fearsome and well-
deserved reputation among the populace, equaling anything Saddam H. 
dished out. 

Then after the Iranian revolution, we cozied up to Saddam and gave 
him whatever he wanted militarily, including poison gas, to use 
against Iran. 

Now, the US military is engaged in covert ops within Iran to 
destabilize the country. (not the CIA this time-- would've required 
that pesky Congressional oversight and approval, something Rummy 
figured out a way around...) 

Y'know, I just can't for the life of me figure out why they hate our 
f'ing guts. Can you?  






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread mrsatva
Its so beautiful !!!
I got an TMO invitation to join (30 Euro a day for 2 month) and missed
it, thats karma. But I planed a trip to Holland next week so I will
chek it out. 
Oups !
Will invincible Holland allow a non recertified, not anymor prakticing 
foremer Tm Teacher to enter the country ???  
  




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 on 4/13/06 6:06 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Does that mean everybody now gets free chocolate?
  
 Free chocolate, free sex, free marijuana.
  
   
  
  On Apr 13, 2006, at 5:43 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
  
  This evening (holland time), full moon day, in the Global Family
Chat, Raja
  Wilhelm declared that Holland is now invincible.  Because it has
reached the
  required number of yogic flyers needed for the country.  Holland
is now
  enjoying integrated national consciousness and is now a rising
star in the
  family of nations.
  
 
  
   Jai Guru Dev 
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
   jpgillam@ wrote:
---authfriend wrote:
 
 Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?

Probably. But I consider all such criticisms of humor 
to be category errors. In my world, humor cannot be 
racist, insensitive, unjustified or subject to any 
descriptors other than funny or not funny. 

All humor derives from something being wrong or 
out of the ordinary. To condemn it for being *too* 
wrong or *too* out of the ordinary seems to miss the 
point. To me, it's either amusing or not.

The greatest condemnation I can apply to a joke is 
not to be amused.
   
   Well said.
   
   Humor is exempt.  It has immunity, and is beyond
   the jurisdiction of political correctness.
  
  
  Mm... 
  
  Did you hear the one about the two niggers?
 
 Yeah, wasn't the punchline something about all them
 niggers want is tight pussy and a warm place to shit?

That's not funny.

P.S. I see what you mean.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/14/06 12:08:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  From The Onion  April 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15  
  MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, announced it 
  will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights starting in 
  July. "More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate with the 
  manual laborers," a spokesman for the airline said Tuesday. "Our 
  business travelers must have lived good past lives to deserve this." 
  Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry in 
  customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about cooking 
  fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that flight 
  attendants refuse to remove, and the "Untouchable" Coach Caste, which 
  is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.Does this 
  strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?

or even Judgemental!





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/14/06 12:15:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Is Raja 
  Wilhelm the one who does kidsha?

Is that kidsha or kishka?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/14/06 12:29:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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 Is 
  Hindu a race?Indian Hindus are generally brown 
people.

Some , especially in the South even 
black.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Yeah, but the part about the burlap sack behind the plane is
 hilarious and sure captures the spirit of it all!

The image was hilarious as a critique of the caste system,
yes indeed.  Funny image even without that context.




 
 Sal
 
 
 On Apr 14, 2006, at 12:35 PM, authfriend wrote:
 
   I didn't particularly mind the parts about caste, but
   the bit about cooking fires and cows on the plane
   struck me as unpleasantly and gratuitously derogatory.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 4/14/06 10:05:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  markmeredith@ writes:
  
  From The  OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
  
  MUMBAIâ€Air India, the  subcontinent's largest airline, 
announced it
  will offer upgraded Business  Caste seating on all flights 
starting in
  July. More legroom, wider  seatsâ€and no need to associate with 
the
  manual laborers, a spokesman for  the airline said Tuesday. Our
  business travelers must have lived good past  lives to deserve 
this.
  Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline  industry in
  customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints about  
cooking
  fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that  
flight
  attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach Caste,  
which
  is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap  sack.
  
  
  
  But but But... where do the Hindu wannabes get to  sit?
 
 
 They don't. They just buy tickets.

LOL!

Excellent!






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/14/06 1:10:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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And when 
  the people at the gate tell them that their flight has been canceled 
  because the pilotscouldn't get visas, they believe it and don'teven 
  ask for their money back.

Plus they get their frequent flier miles taken 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Heresies

2006-04-14 Thread wayback71
I would be interested to know what the slain first born son does symbolize if 
you can 
remember.  Ego?  mind or intellect?  Seems like we are living out an entirely 
symbolic play, 
doesn't it - with the same symbolism repeated on just about every level of 
existence.
.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Kabbalistic interpretation of the Exodus story is actually the  
 story of the soul in bondage (Mizraim, the Hebrew word for Egypt  
 means bondage)--and thus the journey is the expansion of soul till  
 eventual union with God (on Mt. Sinai). The bondage is left behind  
 when they cross the Red Sea, which is actually the soul attaining a  
 higher level of existence till the vision of God face-to-face. I  
 forget what the actual symbolism of the slain first-born is supposed  
 to signify, but it's much deeper than terrorism.
 
 On Apr 14, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:
 
  Is it just me, or does anyone else perceive Passover
  as an act of terrorism? It commemorates the slaughter
  of Egyptian children as a means to persuade Pharaoh
  to make a political decision.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
markmeredith@ wrote:

 From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
 
 MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, 
 announced 
   it
 will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights 
   starting in
 July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate 
 with 
   the
 manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said 
 Tuesday. Our
 business travelers must have lived good past lives to 
 deserve 
   this.
 Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry 
 in
 customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints 
 about 
   cooking
 fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows 
 that 
   flight
 attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach 
 Caste, 
   which
 is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.

Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?
   
   
   Um, did you see the byline, Judy?
  
  Yup, that's why it surprised me.
 
 It's supposed to be a SATIRE.

Yes, Shemp, I'm aware of that, thanks.  But The Onion
doesn't usually do racist satire.

  And isn't the impression that you got 
 was that it was satiring racism and discrimination?  In the form of 
 the discrimination system called the caste system

It was satirizing discrimination, not racism.

As I said in another post, it was the bits about
the cows and the cooking fires that I found
offensive; that wasn't caste-related, it was a
gratuitous slam at Indians, suggesting that they
were primitive and not terribly bright.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heresies

2006-04-14 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/14/06 1:11:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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  Perhaps the only way for the West to stand up to  Islamist violence 
  and still preserve the values of the  West is to embrace Christ's 
  teaching to turn the other  cheek. Otherwise, the terrorists win. 
   This has already been tried, by the US since the Iranian 
  revolution.

Didn't the Dalai Lama turn the other cheek? Might have done 
something for him personally but what did it do to 
Tibet?





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[FairfieldLife] Research, Ethics and the Good Head

2006-04-14 Thread Dharma Mitra




Does anyone have information about brain studies, or any other allopathic studies of TM and the brain or yoga, mediation, chi kung, reikiand the brain? What concerns would you have if you, your friends and loved ones or your organizaiton(s) were involved with these practices and brain research?


Given all the State and Defense Department and corporateresearch into exploiting people and the masses as a whole, I'm a bit concerned about how to put constraints on any such subtle brain/mind/body research, though I want to move ahead in this research. 


What are your thoughts regarding solutions to pursue and preserve such research for humanity and facilitateour forward march toward subtler realms in human evolution through yoga, meditation and such? Respond to me privately if you prefer.

Flourishingly,Dharma MitraDharmaMitra2 AT gmail.comHelping you Say It With Panache!Because, how you say it can be, and often is, as important as what you want to convey,
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heresies

2006-04-14 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/14/06 1:58:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Then 
  after the Iranian revolution, we cozied up to Saddam and gave him whatever 
  he wanted militarily, including poison gas, to use against Iran. 
  

Please, go into detail on this. I like the whatever he 
wanted militarily, including poison gas part 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Heresies

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The US turned the other cheek? When did this happen? I must have 
missed it.

We didn't nuke 'em.  We're about to correct that
error, it seems.

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@
  wrote:
  
   Is it just me, or does anyone else perceive Passover 
   as an act of terrorism? It commemorates the slaughter 
   of Egyptian children as a means to persuade Pharaoh 
   to make a political decision.
  
  No, but thank you for reminding all the Mad Mullahs out there who
  might be lurking this site.  
  
   Perhaps the only way for the West to stand up to 
   Islamist violence and still preserve the values of the 
   West is to embrace Christ's teaching to turn the other 
   cheek. Otherwise, the terrorists win. 
   
  
  This has already been tried, by the US since the Iranian 
revolution.
 







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread Dharma Mitra




This thread is interesting to witness, much like a visiting anthropologist from another more morally and spiritually evolved planet or dimension would experience. Comprehension skills or the very lack thereof, often due to misguided values willfully cultivated forever in search of either or both predatious impostor victimization flauntulosis tenaciously dependent upon perpetual condescensions from others, and/or the willful cultivation of ignorance to secure a nonaccountability for ones own actions or participation within cultivation or responsibility within a group, surfing the aires of social presumptuousness with delusional lofty condescions falsely presenting themselves as liberal. Ture liberality, ture liberalism is most certainly not condescending.


I have as much as witnessed the wife of a world leader speak her first words with another person commenting on the beautiful sunset they are both witnessing, met with agreement by the other person with the remark yes, this is a magnificent planet, nothing more, after which she traipsed off to her husband to remark that this person she'd just spoken with was a communist, and that they should not be allowed to the christian wedding of their relative, preparation for which was why all these people were in the same place at this moment. This person she referred to as communist, who did nothing more than agree with her about the sunset,was not only well liked by most everyone else there but had facilitated many people over the years in getting their businesses off the ground, gave freely of their time to those less advantaged and was part of a program offered in high schools through the JayCees to help kids better understand how to conduct and start small businesses. Communist, eh. 


Purposefully ignorant, selectivelyappliedcannibalisticopportunistism inpsycho-social realms -- a burgeoning malignant carcinoma on the body of humanity attempting to camouflage itself by facilitating a presumption of ubiquity as a state of mind and/or social convention within society.


We've come into this human form to transcend such beastiality, we must make the most of this exceedingly rare human birth, bereft of siuch primitively tribalistic factionalism with most every thought. Such is NOT dharma.


Flourishingly,Dharma MitraOf all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. 
Anything less is a menace to society. 
On 4/14/06, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:   --- In 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurkshempmcgurk@  wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, authfriend jstein@   wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
markmeredith@ wrote: From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15 MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline,
 announced   it will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all flights   starting in July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to associate
 with   the manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said Tuesday. Our business travelers must have lived good past lives to
 deserve   this. Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline industry in customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints
 about   cooking fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering cows that   flight attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable Coach
 Caste,   which is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap sack.   Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?
Um, did you see the byline, Judy?   Yup, that's why it surprised me. It's supposed to be a SATIRE.Yes, Shemp, I'm aware of that, thanks.But The Onion
doesn't usually do racist satire.And isn't the impression that you got was that it was satiring racism and discrimination?In the form of the discrimination system called the caste system
It was satirizing discrimination, not racism.As I said in another post, it was the bits aboutthe cows and the cooking fires that I foundoffensive; that wasn't caste-related, it was agratuitous slam at Indians, suggesting that they
were primitive and not terribly bright.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Home of the Free'

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
babajii_99@ 
  wrote:
  snip
   As far as Donald Rumsfeld having the time to be interested in 
   studying a free society, such as Holland;
   I would think he is too busy defending his policies being in
   question by many Generals and commanders speaking up to suggest 
he
   (Donald) quit, be fired, tar and feathered, or all of the above.
  
  He says it doesn't bother him or surprise him at all.
  Happens all the time, he says.
 
 A perfect case, along with his cronies, of 'you can lead a horse to 
 water...'. I see it reflected equally on the Dems' side. When they 
 [probably]win Congress, we'll see if they have *any* initiative 
 left...

Jim, did you see the article I posted excerpts from the
last time you dumped on the Democrats?  It's actually
something of a bum rap.  The problem, essentially, is
that the media aren't covering what the Dems *are* doing.

The article gives a number of examples.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
  shempmcgurk@ 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend 
jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
  markmeredith@ wrote:
  
   From The OnionApril 12, 2006 | Issue 42•15
   
   MUMBAI—Air India, the subcontinent's largest airline, 
   announced 
 it
   will offer upgraded Business Caste seating on all 
 flights 
 starting in
   July. More legroom, wider seats—and no need to 
 associate 
   with 
 the
   manual laborers, a spokesman for the airline said 
   Tuesday. Our
   business travelers must have lived good past lives to 
   deserve 
 this.
   Air India still ranks at the bottom of the airline 
 industry 
   in
   customer satisfaction, with a high volume of complaints 
   about 
 cooking
   fires in the climate-uncontrolled cabins, wandering 
cows 
   that 
 flight
   attendants refuse to remove, and the Untouchable 
Coach 
   Caste, 
 which
   is towed behind Air India jetliners in a giant burlap 
 sack.
  
  Does this strike anybody as just a wee bit racist?
 
 
 Um, did you see the byline, Judy?

Yup, that's why it surprised me.
   
   It's supposed to be a SATIRE.
  
  Yes, Shemp, I'm aware of that, thanks.  But The Onion
  doesn't usually do racist satire.
  
And isn't the impression that you got 
   was that it was satiring racism and discrimination?  In the
   form of the discrimination system called the caste system
  
  It was satirizing discrimination, not racism.
  
  As I said in another post, it was the bits about
  the cows and the cooking fires that I found
  offensive; that wasn't caste-related, it was a
  gratuitous slam at Indians, suggesting that they
  were primitive and not terribly bright.
 
 Gratuitou slams are usually what satire consists of.

Uh, no, to the contrary.

 And cooking fires and cows are  caste related because I don't 
 think upper class Indians deal with either.

Big stretch, Shemp.

 As for it being discrimination and not racist I would suggest to 
 you that the caste system IS a form of discrimination based upon 
 race.  race is not just skin color.  Two elements are needed for 
 racial discrimination: 

Another huge stretch.


 
 1) a defining characteristic, such as skin color.  But it could be 
a 
 certificate, such as a membership in a tribe; and
 
 2) that this defining characteristic is handed down from parent to 
 child.







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[FairfieldLife] 5 tornadoes hit Iowa City

2006-04-14 Thread bob_brigante
5 tornadoes hit Iowa City, 55 miles north of Fairfield:

http://community.webshots.com/album/549484930difYkW





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Research, Ethics and the Good Head

2006-04-14 Thread Dharma Mitra




Thank you for that referal, wayback, I'll look into him now. Are you familiar with any brain research done on TMers?

Flourishingly,Dharma MitraOf all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. 
Anything less is a menace to society. 
On 4/14/06, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The book Why God Won't Go Away includes discussion of some brain research whilepeople are doing various typees of meditation. The author is a professor at th Univ of Penn
inPhiladelphia (can't remember his name at the moment).He is very engaged in this typeof research and is a legitimate sicentist.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dharma Mitra [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 This thread is interesting to witness, much like a visiting 
 anthropologist from another more morally and spiritually evolved 
 planet or dimension would experience.

We are so fortunate to have someone more morally and
spiritually evolved visit our humble forum and deign
to show us the error of our ways--and from our very
*own* planet and dimension, no less!

We are truly blessed.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Research, Ethics and the Good Head

2006-04-14 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dharma Mitra
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you for that referal, wayback, I'll look into him now.  Are you
 familiar with any brain research done on TMers?
 
 Flourishingly,
 
 Dharma Mitra

All the recent brain research on TM has been done by fred travis at
MUM.  He spoke at the recent david lynch - donovan event at MUM -
perhaps the links to that will give you a start to his work.


 Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable
 thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such
 persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. *Anything less is a
menace
 to society*.
 
 
 On 4/14/06, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The book Why God Won't Go Away includes discussion of some brain
research
  while
  people are doing various typees of meditation. The author is a
professor
  at th Univ of Penn
  in  Philadelphia (can't remember his name at the moment).  He is very
  engaged in this type
  of research and is a legitimate sicentist.
 
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 It's like Bob Brigante, first in line to post any
 news from the UK that indicates that Maharishi's
 fatwa on England had some effect, but remarkably 
 silent about the recent events in India, home of 
 (according to him) most of the Maharishi pundits
 and thus a strong candidate for being in tune
 with Natural Law.
 

***

As a matter of fact, and just for the record (although certainly one 
has no confidence that a fartiste like Turkey B is going to get the 
point), I have posted news from scorpionland as a semi-joke -- 
although it is true that there will be feedback from Nature for 
those countries who are unable to act in a life-supporting way, all 
countries fall into this category, so MMY's selection of Great (ha 
ha) Britain as out of favor is only symbolic. The fact that the 
price of TM has been raised everywhere but India indicates that all 
countries but India are simply incapable of making the transition to 
orderly societies, so it's coherent India or the Kaliyuga continues. 
And India itself has been slammed numerous times by MMY in mou.org 
press conferences:

http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html#excited

The activities of the MMY pundits in India is intended to purify the 
atmosphere so that Vedic civilization can be restored, and human 
suffering minimized, but this could take hundreds of centuries 
according to MMY (the Kaliyuga is not scheduled to end for another 
4270 centuries, but since it is weak due to wrongdoing, this age can 
be ended early, just as a human who lives wrong usually does not 
live long):

http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Mar/wnews_30mar2005prt2_128

10 minutes into this tape

OR

1 hour 49 mins into 

http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Mar/wnews_30mar2005prt1_128


Bob Brigante
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Air India Now Offers Business Caste Seating

2006-04-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 14, 2006, at 3:11 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:

 As for it being discrimination and not racist I would suggest to you 
 that the caste system IS a form of discrimination based upon 
 race. 

It actually seems to be based more upon skin color, amongst other things, since all or most Indians are considered Caucasian, or so I thought. 

 race is not just skin color.  Two elements are needed for 
 racial discrimination: 

 1) a defining characteristic, such as skin color.  But it could be a 
 certificate, such as a membership in a tribe; and

 2) that this defining characteristic is handed down from parent to 
 child.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Research, Ethics and the Good Head

2006-04-14 Thread Vaj


Hiya:I recently received this from the Shamatha Project, which will be a rather sophisticated look at 'transcendence style meditation' using all the methodologies in current brain research. You also might be interested in the Neuroscientists who are spearheading the Mind and Life Project:http://www.investigatingthemind.org/ The Dalai Lama has held annual meetings with leading scientists and a number of these meetings have been published, detailing the research.Anyway, there's a lot out there, here's what I most recently received:	From: 	  [EMAIL PROTECTED]	Subject: 	Shamatha Project Update and 3 week long retreats in the Summer and Fall	Date: 	April 11, 2006 10:15:11 PM EDT	To: 	  [EMAIL PROTECTED]	Reply-To: 	  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Dear SBI Friends,As some of you know, the Shamatha Project is now swiftly moving forward. Dr. Wallace recently sent out a letter, along with an endorsement fromHis Holiness the Dalai Lama, to over 2,000 Dharma centers and otherinterested groups informing them about the project.  To qualify as aparticipant one has to have participated in at least one-week longshamatha retreat with Dr. Wallace, and in order to allow people tofulfill this requirement we have planned three shamatha retreats thissummer and this fall.We have also purchased full-page ads in BuddhaDharma, Tricycle, andMandala Magazine to recruit participants, and the three retreats will beadvertised in these magazines as well.  The main purpose of the retreatsis to prepare potential participants for the Shamatha Project, though asDr. Wallace says below, the retreats are open to anyone interested.Many people wished to sign up for the Cultivating the Heart and Mindcourse that the Santa Barbara Institute offered in March but were unableto because the retreat facilities couldn't accommodate any more people,and we apologize for not being able to allow them to attend. So, becauseof this, we strongly encourage anyone who knows they can attend one ofthe three retreats to sign up at their earliest convenience. The ads arecoming out in May and we anticipate an increase in registration at thattime.More information about the three retreats can be found atwww.sbinstitute.comAdditionally, Dr. Wallace's new book, The Attention Revolution:Unlocking the Power of the Focused Mind (Wisdom Publications), has beenpublished.  This book is extremely relevant for anyone interested inparticipating in either a week long shamatha retreat or the ShamathaProject itself.Peacefully,James"I am delighted at the progress being made in developing the ShamathaProject, a scientific study designed to examine the effects oflong-term, intensive practice of shamatha together with the fourimmeasurable qualities of loving-kindness, compassion, empathetic joyand equanimity.”— His Holiness the Dalai Lama, January 31, 2006Dear friends and colleagues,We are writing to let you know about the Shamatha Project, a study weare launching designed to research the benefits of intensive meditationpractice. We are inviting meditation students of all traditions andlevels of practice to participate in this extensive research project,hence our contacting you. This scientific study of attention,introspection and the cultivation of the heart is being co-sponsored bythe Santa Barbara Institute for Consciousness Studies, the Center forMind and Brain at the University of California, Davis, and ShambhalaMountain Center.I will guide participants in various forms of shamatha practice drawnfrom the Theravada and Mahayana Buddhist traditions. Instruction willalso be offered on the cultivation of the Four Immeasurables(loving-kindness, compassion, empathetic joy and equanimity). Thispromises to be a unique opportunity for students to deepen theirmeditation practice while simultaneously making a great contribution toscience.	Over a three-month retreat period, participants will devote themselvesto meditating for eight to ten hours daily under my guidance. They willalso work with a team of neuroscientists and psychologists from theUniversity of California led by Dr. Clifford Saron, shortly before,during and after this intensive retreat.We are looking for sixty-four individuals with varying degrees ofmeditative experience to participate in this study. Participants will berandomly selected between two retreats (February 27 – June 3, 2007, andSeptember 3 – December 8, 2007), both of which will take place atShambhala Mountain Center in Red Feather Lakes, CO. Participants will beresponsible for the cost of housing and food, which is estimated to bethe discounted price of $5,820 (Shambhala Mountain is subsidizing theprogram).As a first step, participants will be asked to complete a one-weekretreat with me prior to the commencement of the study if they have notalready done so. Upcoming retreats include	Mission Renewal Center, Santa Barbara, CA, June 25 – July 2, 2006	Shambhala Mountain Center, Red Feather Lakes, CO, July 22 – 29, 2006	Menla Mountain Retreat  Conference Center, Phoenicia, NY, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 14, 2006, at 4:35 PM, bob_brigante wrote:

as out of favor is only symbolic. The fact that the 
 price of TM has been raised everywhere but India indicates that all 
 countries but India are simply incapable of making the transition to 
 orderly societies, so it's coherent India

'Coherent' India or the kalyuga?  What a choice.

 or the Kaliyuga continues. 
 And India itself has been slammed numerous times by MMY in mou.org 
 press conferences:

http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html#excited

 The activities of the MMY pundits in India is intended to purify the 
 atmosphere so that Vedic civilization can be restored, and human 
 suffering minimized, but this could take hundreds of centuries 
 according to MMY (the Kaliyuga is not scheduled to end for another 
 4270 centuries, but since it is weak due to wrongdoing, this age can 
 be ended early, just as a human who lives wrong usually does not 
 live long):

I guess it all comes down to what you consider 'wrong,' then:

Genghis Khan--65 years

Adolph Hitler--56 years

Henry VIII--56 years

Joseph Stalin--75 years

Benito Mussolini--62 years

Franciso Franco--83 years

Ferdinand Marcos--72 years

Pol Pot--73 years

And I'm sure others can come up with  more people who did a whole lot of wrong and lived a long time.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to invincible Holland

2006-04-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Its so beautiful !!!
 I got an TMO invitation to join (30 Euro a day for 2 month) and 
missed
 it, thats karma. But I planed a trip to Holland next week so I will
 chek it out. 
 Oups !
 Will invincible Holland allow a non recertified, not anymor 
prakticing 
 foremer Tm Teacher to enter the country ???  
   
Only if you change your screen name to mr. sativa
 
 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Heresies

2006-04-14 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- authfriend wrote:

 The decision Pharaoh was being forced to make (by God,
 not by the Jews themselves, according to the Hebrew
 Scriptures) was to let the Israelites leave Egypt,
 where Pharaoh had held them in slavery and slaughtered
 all *their* firstborn male children, and subsequently
 all their male newborns.
 
 Not as efficient as Hitler's genocide, of course, but
 then that was a pre-technological age.
 
 And of course Passover does not commemorate the 
 slaughter of Egyptian children, it commemorates God
 having saved the children of the Israelites from
 *being* slaughtered: the angel who was killing the
 Egyptian children *passed over* the children of the
 Israelites.

This a more palatable story, to be sure. We were 
persecuted, but did not have to rise up and kill in 
our defense. Instead, God did our killing for us. 

  Violence I can't abide
  I have no wish for genocide
  But if you wish to take my life
  Remember God is on my side 






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