[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweating?

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> If you continue to have unexplained episodes of
> sweating, you should see a doctor.  They could be
> a symptom of something serious.
>

Perhaps, but it seems to me that's mainly emotional.
The reason probably is that my impulsiveness led
me to invest nearly 20K Euros in some high-risk shares,
and it looks like that company is gonna be bankrupt within
a couple of months. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Educating Barry, Shemp, and MDixon

[TurquoiseB]

People who are trying actively to control what
others are allowed to read and see on TV are 
censors, whatever they call themselves.

You were trying to change what the American
people were allowed to see, to make it more
what YOU wanted them to see.  (Judy's first 
"suggestion," which she backed off from when
we pointed out that it was censorship PER SE,
was that the film be yanked off the air until
after the elections and then shown ONLY on pay
TV.) 

That not only makes you a censor, it makes you 
EXACTLY like the Bushies you rail against on this 
forum. You're a censor. Live with it, hypocrite.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The three of you have claimed that those
> who have called on ABC to fix the falsehoods
> in "Path to 9/11" or cancel the broadcast
> are advocating "censorship."
> 
> That is appallingly ignorant, and a 
> misconception that is actually dangerous
> to free speech.
> 
> Censorship is when some authority--usually
> a governing body--*requires* an entity to
> remove material it finds offensive and has
> the power to enforce its order.
> 
> In the case of this film, the only authority
> with the power to order the removal of the
> material and enforce that order is ABC.
> 
> If the material were to be removed or the
> showing canceled, it would be at ABC's behest,
> because it had been persuaded that showing
> the film as it is and as scheduled would not
> serve the public interest.
> 
> To refer to expressions of the opinion that
> ABC *should* remove the material as 
> "censorship" is an attempt to intimidate those
> who hold such opinions into not expressing them,
> and is therefore itself an assault on free 
> speech.
> 
> Just as ABC has the right to show the film,
> members of the public have the right to say
> they believe ABC *should not* show the film.
> 
> That is not "censorship" in any way, shape,
> or form.  That, in fact, is free speech.
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> What the big print giveth, the small print will taketh away.

(Sorry) Shouldn't it be: "...shalt take away"? 









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[FairfieldLife] Re: This is a time like none other in history.

[nablus108]

Question: Is a third world war imminent — what with the conflict in 
the Middle East? 
Benjamin Creme: No, it is not. If we were in a situation which was 
so `hot' – it is very `hot' at present – that World War Three was 
inevitable, Maitreya would intervene. 
It is better that He does not have to intervene because it would 
infringe human free will. But if it were necessary, He would 
intervene. In that case, He would be restricted in what He can give 
to humanity for quite some time, until our karma allowed Him to give 
what He can give. If He used that karmic gift, as it were, to prevent 
a third world war, it would hinder Him from doing things that He 
otherwise would do. 

The Masters, with a broader vision, know that eventually things will 
clarify and peace will be established. They know, as Maitreya says, 
that the end is known from the beginning. Have no fear. That does not 
mean sit still and do nothing. That is the point. 
You have to be inspired to act. He says: "Nothing happens by itself. 
Man must act and implement his will." People, full of idealism, think 
that if you can envisage something, it already exists; that if you 
know that God is perfect, then the world is perfect. You cannot shut 
your eyes to all the ills in the world. It is foolish. It is not 
adult. Be adult and face the ills of the world and do something about 
them. You have to act to implement your will. If you want peace, 
justice, sharing and right relationship, you have to do it. Make it 
known that you want it. Elect the right people to get it. Act. Become 
active. Otherwise, you live in the clouds.
 
This is a time like none other in history. It will not be repeated. 
The Hierarchy of Masters is returning to the world for the first time 
in 98,000 years. You have the opportunity to work for Them, to make 
easier the work of Maitreya, to light the way, to make known to the 
world that He is here. Don't wait till Maitreya comes out in the 
open. Tell everybody who will listen that He is here, what His plans 
are, what His priorities are – right relationship, sharing, justice, 
peace – these are the priorities. Looking after the planet is a 
number one priority. You have to make these your own, not just listen 
to someone like me. 

We all have to become involved and to tell the world what is 
happening in the world, that this is the most amazing time, there has 
never been a time in the history of the world like this time. To be 
alive at this time is an extraordinary blessing.
With all the pain and the suffering in the world the opportunity for 
humanity is immense.

http://www.shareintl.org







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[nablus108]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 9/10/06 5:34:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> The  truth is my friend; all thinking 
> europeans are getting quite fed up with  the american goverment, with 
> american policy and american culture.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Then stop asking us to settle the Iranian nuclear situation. You guys 
deal  
> with it.

 We are not asking you. Quite the opposite; we are trying to prevent 
the americans from making even bigger fools of themselves by bombing 
Iran. The world wants dialoge, not bombs and Bush.






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[FairfieldLife] Criss Angel

[cardemaister]

It seems to me Criss Angel wants to emphasize that
he's Christian!

?Anybody seen this on TV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBQLq2VmZcA&NR






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[Ingegerd]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > From a friend "in the know":
> >
> > It's true. As of today, Sept 10th, 637 have signed up in the 
Drier 
> > Bldg. for the free siddhi's courses to start soon. There are 
several 
> > courses planned between now & Nov. There may be courses in 
Canada as 
> > well.
> 
> Would this be the same friend who told about the promised 
$2000/month 
> salaries to all the recertified govs?  And maybe he's a relative 
of the 
> same friend who also said Vedic City would include a world-famous 
> health center. And maybe they're cousins to the same friend who 
said 
> the Sidhis would teach you how to fly.
> 
> Anyone still believing this crapola has some serious growing up to 
do.
> 
> Sal

It could be true. MMY need to do something to enhance his 
reputation. Besides of that he need to keep the wealthy people in 
the fold - they may lose interest if more projects fails.
Ingegerd
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The path to 9/11 and other myths.

[curtisdeltablues]

We have our flaws.  We have our greatness.  It is America baby and I
love it.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > "No wonder everyone laughs at the USA."
> > 
> > And then tries to move here.
> 
> 
> 
> Yeah, it's like Canadians.  They express their hatred for the US but 
> they'll be the first ones in line for a Green Card...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The path to 9/11 and other myths.
> > > 
> > > All I heard about this is that it is not historically accurate, 
> and 
> > > historians have asked for it to be pulled, and that it was 
> > > orchestrated by some right wing shennanigans in Holywood
> > > 
> > > It would not surprise me that it is not accurate. The Americans 
> made 
> > > a film in the '90s about a British sub that captured the German 
> code 
> > > Enigma machine and the Brits kept it secret for years during the 
> > > war. Most US ships would have been sunk in the Atlantic by the U-
> > > boats if it were not for this capture. However, in the movie it 
> was 
> > > portrayed as an American sub captured it. So one of the most 
> > > important parts of WW2 was made to be an American victory, and 
> the 
> > > whole war was portryed that way. 
> > > 
> > > Four main factors can be attributed to the winning of WW2:
> > > 1. Montgomery's defeat of Rommels tank divisions in northern 
> Africa.
> > > 2. The Battle of Britain - a long air battle - Brits agains 
> Germans -
> > >  won by the Brits with the mass of the German Luftwafe being 
> > > destroyed.
> > > 3. The invention of radar during the war - a British invention.
> > > 4. The capture of the Enigma machine - by the Brits.
> > > 
> > > Once all this hard stuff had been done and the war had 
> essentially 
> > > been won, the Americans came in with their grunts.
> > > 
> > > Finally, another illusion Americans are under is that they beat 
> the 
> > > Brits in their "War of Independence". Not true. The Brits, 
> instead 
> > > of fighting the US, focused on a more important enemy - the 
> French, 
> > > Spanish, and Dutch were all at full-on war against Britain in 
> > > Europe. Brtain won that war and gave the colonies to the 
> > > landgrabbers in the US. Twelve years or so later...the Brits 
> > > thrashed the Americans when the US tried to invade Canada.
> > > 
> > > Now the right wingers are trying to re-write the 9/11 story. 
> What a 
> > > ridiculouos country. No wonder everyone laughs at the USA.
> > > 
> > > OffWorld
> > >
> >
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem with "Path to 9/11"

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Lol, so that is why FFl is so quiet. They are all tuned in to TV. 
> Thankfully I do not have or want a TV. ---I am watching the Lord 
of 
> the Rings for the second time





If the "Path to 9/11" is half as boring as "The Lord of the Rings", 
then I'll never watch it.









> - boy, despite the cliches and bad 
> segways, it is SO much more descriptive of what is going on right 
now 
> in reality - you know, with all the orcs, and especially the 
Balrog. 
> That is the THING that crawled out of the bowels of the earth on 
> 9/11.   
> Do any of you remember that the night after 9/11 was a localised 
> thunderstorm over ground zero - short and localised??...and out of 
> place.
> The Balrog that came from the bowels of the earth that day. It is 
the 
> reason there was so much FEAR in the country for years after, and 
it  
> is the dark power behind the automaton Bush et al. It came up from 
> ground zero and started walking about the Earth...but now it is 
being 
> defeated, and the negative forces are being absorbed back to the 
> shadow.   
> The time is now. It is not the dark time now that Maharishi is 
> pretending it is. This is the time of the enlightened awakening. 
The 
> Free...The Liberated...The Liberal (that last just for the 
annoyance 
> of Dixon)
> 
> < did not have sexual relations with that woman" is immediately 
followed 
> by a shot of the Washington Monument.>>
> 
> ROFL !  
> This has got to get into the next South Park or whatever the 
> equivalent is these days. Very funny.
> 
> OffWorld
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > Well, believe it or not, I fell asleep partway
> > through and missed about an hour of it.  I'd
> > be surprised if they don't measure a huge drop
> > in viewers after the first hour.  The film is
> > not well paced at all.
> BIGSNIP> The film is reasonably well produced, but it's
> > a truly filthy piece of right-wing propaganda
> > that deserves every bit of the vilification 
> > that has been directed at it.  The disclaimer
> > is a joke; it reads like a bit of legalese
> > ABC added as a prudent afterthought to what is
> > essentially a truthful presentation, which, of
> > course, it is not.
> >
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The path to 9/11 and other myths.

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "No wonder everyone laughs at the USA."
> 
> And then tries to move here.



Yeah, it's like Canadians.  They express their hatred for the US but 
they'll be the first ones in line for a Green Card...





> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> wrote:
> >
> > The path to 9/11 and other myths.
> > 
> > All I heard about this is that it is not historically accurate, 
and 
> > historians have asked for it to be pulled, and that it was 
> > orchestrated by some right wing shennanigans in Holywood
> > 
> > It would not surprise me that it is not accurate. The Americans 
made 
> > a film in the '90s about a British sub that captured the German 
code 
> > Enigma machine and the Brits kept it secret for years during the 
> > war. Most US ships would have been sunk in the Atlantic by the U-
> > boats if it were not for this capture. However, in the movie it 
was 
> > portrayed as an American sub captured it. So one of the most 
> > important parts of WW2 was made to be an American victory, and 
the 
> > whole war was portryed that way. 
> > 
> > Four main factors can be attributed to the winning of WW2:
> > 1. Montgomery's defeat of Rommels tank divisions in northern 
Africa.
> > 2. The Battle of Britain - a long air battle - Brits agains 
Germans -
> >  won by the Brits with the mass of the German Luftwafe being 
> > destroyed.
> > 3. The invention of radar during the war - a British invention.
> > 4. The capture of the Enigma machine - by the Brits.
> > 
> > Once all this hard stuff had been done and the war had 
essentially 
> > been won, the Americans came in with their grunts.
> > 
> > Finally, another illusion Americans are under is that they beat 
the 
> > Brits in their "War of Independence". Not true. The Brits, 
instead 
> > of fighting the US, focused on a more important enemy - the 
French, 
> > Spanish, and Dutch were all at full-on war against Britain in 
> > Europe. Brtain won that war and gave the colonies to the 
> > landgrabbers in the US. Twelve years or so later...the Brits 
> > thrashed the Americans when the US tried to invade Canada.
> > 
> > Now the right wingers are trying to re-write the 9/11 story. 
What a 
> > ridiculouos country. No wonder everyone laughs at the USA.
> > 
> > OffWorld
> >
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Educating Barry, Shemp, and MDixon

[shempmcgurk]

This is where Judy tries to justify her support and promotion of 
censorship.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> The three of you have claimed that those
> who have called on ABC to fix the falsehoods
> in "Path to 9/11" or cancel the broadcast
> are advocating "censorship."
> 
> That is appallingly ignorant, and a 
> misconception that is actually dangerous
> to free speech.
> 
> Censorship is when some authority--usually
> a governing body--*requires* an entity to
> remove material it finds offensive and has
> the power to enforce its order.
> 
> In the case of this film, the only authority
> with the power to order the removal of the
> material and enforce that order is ABC.
> 
> If the material were to be removed or the
> showing canceled, it would be at ABC's behest,
> because it had been persuaded that showing
> the film as it is and as scheduled would not
> serve the public interest.
> 
> To refer to expressions of the opinion that
> ABC *should* remove the material as 
> "censorship" is an attempt to intimidate those
> who hold such opinions into not expressing them,
> and is therefore itself an assault on free 
> speech.
> 
> Just as ABC has the right to show the film,
> members of the public have the right to say
> they believe ABC *should not* show the film.
> 
> That is not "censorship" in any way, shape,
> or form.  That, in fact, is free speech.
>


Intimidation is not censorship.

Yes, I understand now.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The path to 9/11 and other myths.

[curtisdeltablues]

"No wonder everyone laughs at the USA."

And then tries to move here.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> The path to 9/11 and other myths.
> 
> All I heard about this is that it is not historically accurate, and 
> historians have asked for it to be pulled, and that it was 
> orchestrated by some right wing shennanigans in Holywood
> 
> It would not surprise me that it is not accurate. The Americans made 
> a film in the '90s about a British sub that captured the German code 
> Enigma machine and the Brits kept it secret for years during the 
> war. Most US ships would have been sunk in the Atlantic by the U-
> boats if it were not for this capture. However, in the movie it was 
> portrayed as an American sub captured it. So one of the most 
> important parts of WW2 was made to be an American victory, and the 
> whole war was portryed that way. 
> 
> Four main factors can be attributed to the winning of WW2:
> 1. Montgomery's defeat of Rommels tank divisions in northern Africa.
> 2. The Battle of Britain - a long air battle - Brits agains Germans -
>  won by the Brits with the mass of the German Luftwafe being 
> destroyed.
> 3. The invention of radar during the war - a British invention.
> 4. The capture of the Enigma machine - by the Brits.
> 
> Once all this hard stuff had been done and the war had essentially 
> been won, the Americans came in with their grunts.
> 
> Finally, another illusion Americans are under is that they beat the 
> Brits in their "War of Independence". Not true. The Brits, instead 
> of fighting the US, focused on a more important enemy - the French, 
> Spanish, and Dutch were all at full-on war against Britain in 
> Europe. Brtain won that war and gave the colonies to the 
> landgrabbers in the US. Twelve years or so later...the Brits 
> thrashed the Americans when the US tried to invade Canada.
> 
> Now the right wingers are trying to re-write the 9/11 story. What a 
> ridiculouos country. No wonder everyone laughs at the USA.
> 
> OffWorld
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem with "Path to 9/11"

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Well, believe it or not, I fell asleep partway
> through and missed about an hour of it.  I'd
> be surprised if they don't measure a huge drop
> in viewers after the first hour.  The film is
> not well paced at all.
> 
> The worst misrepresentation--the scene where
> Sandy Berger refuses to order the takedown of
> Osama bin Laden--was edited a bit toward the
> end, but hardly enough to change the scene's
> impact.
> 
> In fact, they never got anywhere near close
> enough to bin Laden to kill him, nor did
> Berger ever refuse to authorize any operation
> against him.
> 
> It didn't appear to me that the scene with
> Madeleine Albright (with her name still
> misspelled) defending her warning of the
> Pakistanis was changed at all.
> 
> In fact, she never warned the Pakistanis of
> the missile strike on bin Laden, and the
> meeting in the scene never took place.
> The film's misrepresentation is that her
> warning to Pakistan allowed Pakistan to
> warn bin Laden in time for him to escape.
> 
> All the other misrepresentational scenes that
> have been pointed out were still in the film.
> 
> One I haven't seen discussed involved an aide
> to George Tenet busting into a meeting her
> boss is holding after the embassy bombings and
> hysterically accusing him of responsibility for
> the bombings, on the basis that he hadn't given
> Berger the authority to kill bin Laden when he
> had the chance (i.e., the wholly invented scene
> described above, which never occurred--neither
> the chance to take bin Laden down nor, of
> course, Berger's refusal to approve it).
> 
> One particularly nasty touch: the famous clip
> of Clinton saying "I did not have sexual
> relations with that woman" is immediately
> followed by a shot of the Washington Monument.
> 
> Clinton is repeatedly portrayed as being unable
> to properly pursue al Qaeda because he is
> distracted by the Lewinsky matter, another
> right-wing invention.
> 
> The film is reasonably well produced, but it's
> a truly filthy piece of right-wing propaganda
> that deserves every bit of the vilification 
> that has been directed at it.  The disclaimer
> is a joke; it reads like a bit of legalese
> ABC added as a prudent afterthought to what is
> essentially a truthful presentation, which, of
> course, it is not.
>


Gee, how territle it must have been that millions saw it, eh Judy?

Because, unlike you, people can't think for themselves and they 
should be protected from horrible propaganda.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: The path to 9/11 and other myths.

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The path to 9/11 and other myths.
> 
> All I heard about this is that it is not historically accurate, 
and 
> historians have asked for it to be pulled, and that it was 
> orchestrated by some right wing shennanigans in Holywood
> 
> It would not surprise me that it is not accurate. The Americans 
made 
> a film in the '90s about a British sub that captured the German 
code 
> Enigma machine and the Brits kept it secret for years during the 
> war. Most US ships would have been sunk in the Atlantic by the U-
> boats if it were not for this capture. However, in the movie it 
was 
> portrayed as an American sub captured it. So one of the most 
> important parts of WW2 was made to be an American victory, and the 
> whole war was portryed that way. 
> 
> Four main factors can be attributed to the winning of WW2:



One main factor can be attributed to the winning of WW2:

1. The Soviet Union.  The madman Stalin didn't give a shit for human 
life, particularly those of his own countrymen.  So, through the 
principle of attrition, he threw as many Russians at the Germans as 
possible and, eventually, they drove the Germans right back to 
Berlin.  Of course, it cost 20 million Soviet lives...



> 1. Montgomery's defeat of Rommels tank divisions in northern 
Africa.
> 2. The Battle of Britain - a long air battle - Brits agains 
Germans -
>  won by the Brits with the mass of the German Luftwafe being 
> destroyed.
> 3. The invention of radar during the war - a British invention.
> 4. The capture of the Enigma machine - by the Brits.
> 
> Once all this hard stuff had been done and the war had essentially 
> been won, the Americans came in with their grunts.
> 
> Finally, another illusion Americans are under is that they beat 
the 
> Brits in their "War of Independence". Not true. The Brits, instead 
> of fighting the US, focused on a more important enemy - the 
French, 
> Spanish, and Dutch were all at full-on war against Britain in 
> Europe. Brtain won that war and gave the colonies to the 
> landgrabbers in the US. Twelve years or so later...the Brits 
> thrashed the Americans when the US tried to invade Canada.
> 
> Now the right wingers are trying to re-write the 9/11 story. What 
a 
> ridiculouos country. No wonder everyone laughs at the USA.
> 
> OffWorld
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem with "Path to 9/11"

[off_world_beings]

Lol, so that is why FFl is so quiet. They are all tuned in to TV. 
Thankfully I do not have or want a TV. ---I am watching the Lord of 
the Rings for the second time - boy, despite the cliches and bad 
segways, it is SO much more descriptive of what is going on right now 
in reality - you know, with all the orcs, and especially the Balrog. 
That is the THING that crawled out of the bowels of the earth on 
9/11.   
Do any of you remember that the night after 9/11 was a localised 
thunderstorm over ground zero - short and localised??...and out of 
place.
The Balrog that came from the bowels of the earth that day. It is the 
reason there was so much FEAR in the country for years after, and it  
is the dark power behind the automaton Bush et al. It came up from 
ground zero and started walking about the Earth...but now it is being 
defeated, and the negative forces are being absorbed back to the 
shadow.   
The time is now. It is not the dark time now that Maharishi is 
pretending it is. This is the time of the enlightened awakening. The 
Free...The Liberated...The Liberal (that last just for the annoyance 
of Dixon)

<>

ROFL !  
This has got to get into the next South Park or whatever the 
equivalent is these days. Very funny.

OffWorld



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>
> Well, believe it or not, I fell asleep partway
> through and missed about an hour of it.  I'd
> be surprised if they don't measure a huge drop
> in viewers after the first hour.  The film is
> not well paced at all.
BIGSNIP> The film is reasonably well produced, but it's
> a truly filthy piece of right-wing propaganda
> that deserves every bit of the vilification 
> that has been directed at it.  The disclaimer
> is a joke; it reads like a bit of legalese
> ABC added as a prudent afterthought to what is
> essentially a truthful presentation, which, of
> course, it is not.
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[FairfieldLife] Educating Barry, Shemp, and MDixon

[authfriend]

The three of you have claimed that those
who have called on ABC to fix the falsehoods
in "Path to 9/11" or cancel the broadcast
are advocating "censorship."

That is appallingly ignorant, and a 
misconception that is actually dangerous
to free speech.

Censorship is when some authority--usually
a governing body--*requires* an entity to
remove material it finds offensive and has
the power to enforce its order.

In the case of this film, the only authority
with the power to order the removal of the
material and enforce that order is ABC.

If the material were to be removed or the
showing canceled, it would be at ABC's behest,
because it had been persuaded that showing
the film as it is and as scheduled would not
serve the public interest.

To refer to expressions of the opinion that
ABC *should* remove the material as 
"censorship" is an attempt to intimidate those
who hold such opinions into not expressing them,
and is therefore itself an assault on free 
speech.

Just as ABC has the right to show the film,
members of the public have the right to say
they believe ABC *should not* show the film.

That is not "censorship" in any way, shape,
or form.  That, in fact, is free speech.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem with "Path to 9/11"

[authfriend]

Well, believe it or not, I fell asleep partway
through and missed about an hour of it.  I'd
be surprised if they don't measure a huge drop
in viewers after the first hour.  The film is
not well paced at all.

The worst misrepresentation--the scene where
Sandy Berger refuses to order the takedown of
Osama bin Laden--was edited a bit toward the
end, but hardly enough to change the scene's
impact.

In fact, they never got anywhere near close
enough to bin Laden to kill him, nor did
Berger ever refuse to authorize any operation
against him.

It didn't appear to me that the scene with
Madeleine Albright (with her name still
misspelled) defending her warning of the
Pakistanis was changed at all.

In fact, she never warned the Pakistanis of
the missile strike on bin Laden, and the
meeting in the scene never took place.
The film's misrepresentation is that her
warning to Pakistan allowed Pakistan to
warn bin Laden in time for him to escape.

All the other misrepresentational scenes that
have been pointed out were still in the film.

One I haven't seen discussed involved an aide
to George Tenet busting into a meeting her
boss is holding after the embassy bombings and
hysterically accusing him of responsibility for
the bombings, on the basis that he hadn't given
Berger the authority to kill bin Laden when he
had the chance (i.e., the wholly invented scene
described above, which never occurred--neither
the chance to take bin Laden down nor, of
course, Berger's refusal to approve it).

One particularly nasty touch: the famous clip
of Clinton saying "I did not have sexual
relations with that woman" is immediately
followed by a shot of the Washington Monument.

Clinton is repeatedly portrayed as being unable
to properly pursue al Qaeda because he is
distracted by the Lewinsky matter, another
right-wing invention.

The film is reasonably well produced, but it's
a truly filthy piece of right-wing propaganda
that deserves every bit of the vilification 
that has been directed at it.  The disclaimer
is a joke; it reads like a bit of legalese
ABC added as a prudent afterthought to what is
essentially a truthful presentation, which, of
course, it is not.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[jyouells2000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Sep 10, 2006, at 5:21 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sep 10, 2006, at 4:51 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:
> >>
> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:13 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sep 10, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> >>
> >>> From a friend:
> >>>
> >>> .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan 
> >>> to
> > pay
> >>>  people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility
> > America
> >>>  Course,starting Sept 12th,
> >>>and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but hasn't
> >>> been
> >>> able  to afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis
> >>> course for
> >>>  free...contact the TM center for more info on that..there is a
> >>> meeting  at 1pm Sundayin the Drier building for those ready to
> >>> start
> >>>  immediately..tell your friends...love and light to all of you
> >>
> >> Hahahahahahahaha.
> >>
> >> Rick if your friend  still believes any of this, he needs to
> >>> seriously
> >> get real.
> >>
> >> Sal
> >>
> >
> > Unless someone's donating it.
> 
>  Then it wouldn't be free.
> 
>  Sal
> 
> >>>
> >>> Still, it would be free to the participant, like the DC course
> >>
> >> Than say that.  Otherwise, it's just perpetuating the same old
> >> falsehoods.
> >> Sal
> >>
> >
> > Actually, I think that's how the DC and MUM courses will actually turn
> > a profit. Donations covering the participants fees.
> 
> But that's not an honest profit.  Some would argue it's not really even 
> a profit, it's just taking advantage of someone else's generosity.
> 

Bingo. 



> > That seems to be
> > the new model - foundations, donations (and real estate) I have a
> > hard time believing that the TMO would actually use it's own resources
> >  . (Unless someone knows otherwise.)
> 
> Beside the point.
>






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[FairfieldLife] The path to 9/11 and other myths.

[off_world_beings]

The path to 9/11 and other myths.

All I heard about this is that it is not historically accurate, and 
historians have asked for it to be pulled, and that it was 
orchestrated by some right wing shennanigans in Holywood

It would not surprise me that it is not accurate. The Americans made 
a film in the '90s about a British sub that captured the German code 
Enigma machine and the Brits kept it secret for years during the 
war. Most US ships would have been sunk in the Atlantic by the U-
boats if it were not for this capture. However, in the movie it was 
portrayed as an American sub captured it. So one of the most 
important parts of WW2 was made to be an American victory, and the 
whole war was portryed that way. 

Four main factors can be attributed to the winning of WW2:
1. Montgomery's defeat of Rommels tank divisions in northern Africa.
2. The Battle of Britain - a long air battle - Brits agains Germans -
 won by the Brits with the mass of the German Luftwafe being 
destroyed.
3. The invention of radar during the war - a British invention.
4. The capture of the Enigma machine - by the Brits.

Once all this hard stuff had been done and the war had essentially 
been won, the Americans came in with their grunts.

Finally, another illusion Americans are under is that they beat the 
Brits in their "War of Independence". Not true. The Brits, instead 
of fighting the US, focused on a more important enemy - the French, 
Spanish, and Dutch were all at full-on war against Britain in 
Europe. Brtain won that war and gave the colonies to the 
landgrabbers in the US. Twelve years or so later...the Brits 
thrashed the Americans when the US tried to invade Canada.

Now the right wingers are trying to re-write the 9/11 story. What a 
ridiculouos country. No wonder everyone laughs at the USA.

OffWorld






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[FairfieldLife] Re: MDIXONS dumbass war

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 9/9/06 5:47:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > Only a complete idiot thinks they can  arrogantly ignore the 
world 
> > community . Now the result of this ignorance  is your dumbass 
> > quagmire war. Admit it...you fvcked up bigtime, and you  have no 
> > way out of this quagmire. Send your children and grand-children 
to  
> > your quagmire. It is going to be a long quagmire with no 
positive 
> > results for anyone.
> > 
> > OffWorld
> > 
> > Offworld yes, I get it! That absolute  retard of a president, 
the 
> > dumbest president ever, tricked all those  beautiful, wonderful, 
> > brilliant, half brained civil servants into giving him  the 
> > authority to go to war. By the way OFF, do you ever take the 
time 
> > to read  your own posts? You have got to be the most negative,
> > frustrated, hate  filled person on FFL.
> 
> Whether that's the case or not, he happens to be
> right.
>


He is just trying to avoid the issues again. That is his so 
called "communication skill".

OffWorld





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[FairfieldLife] Re: MDIXONS dumbass war

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Offworld yes, I get it! That absolute  retard of a president, the 
dumbest 
> president ever, tricked all those  beautiful, wonderful, 
brilliant, half brained 
> civil servants into giving him  the authority to go to war. By the 
way OFF, do 
> you ever take the time to read  your own posts? You have got to be 
the most 
> negative, frustrated, hate  filled person on FFL. Not only here, 
but of anyone 
> I have ever communicated  with or met, >>>

To a dumbass that thinks this war was an intelligent thing to do, 
yes I will come across as that way. I'll make you understand if I 
meet an ignorant warmonger coward like you in the street. Yes, I 
hate ingnorant warmongers. You are an armchair coward with no 
intelligence about how to conduct a war on terrorism. You are a 
dying species and you know it. 

<< We don't talk anymore, because his  
> communication skills have dropped as low as yours, Off, >>>

Your MAIN and most remembered "communication skill" that you have is 
the MOAB's you dropped on thousands innocent people and all the 
children you continue to kill. These are your only forms of 
communication because you are an ignoramouos warmonger.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes

[lurkernomore20002000]

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> >
> I dunno Nabby. Why do people watch train wrecks?
> 
> PS I like your clever slogan. (Movement belongs to those who move.)
> Did YOU make that up?

To understand Nabby, you need only understand Benny Creme.

lurk

Actually, I am sympathetic to some of Share Inc.'s analysis.  It is 
their solutions that puts me off.  i.e.  Benny sort of sits in the 
chair of "Benny Infallability"

lurk
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is this a done deal already? I heard it was being discussed at the
> meeting yesterday...And ideas to get more people to come to the
> domes... Well, that's great if it's not a rumor!
> 
> My dear Anna, my dear, dear, Anna.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem with "Path to 9/11"

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 9/10/06 5:54:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > jstein@ writes:
> > 
> > Oh, I'm  going to watch it. And I'll *try* not to
> > throw a brick at the  TV.
> > 
> > Instead of doing that, why not write down, scene by scene,
> > what was wrong  and how it really happened and share them
> > with us before the talking points come out.
> 
> Can't watch and write at the same time, sorry.  If I
> see anything that looks wrong that hasn't already been
> pointed out, I'll try to remember to make a note of it
> afterward.  I'm no expert on the details of what led
> up to 9/11 in any case.
> 
> There's plenty of stuff on the Web that nails the
> inaccuracies (including a compendium from a New
> Zealander, where the film has already been telecast).
> You don't need me to enumerate the falsehoods.
>


Clinton isn't the one we should be focused on, re 911.

Consider:
* The President's now infamous August 6, 2001, intelligence briefing 
warned that Osama bin Laden was seeking to hijack aircraft. The 
White House at first claimed that there was no indication that the 
attacks would be on American soil. Later, it was revealed that the 
briefing was titled "Bin Laden determined to strike in the U.S.
 
* According to the Sunday Herald, "Britain gave President Bush a 
categorical warning to expect multiple airline hijackings by the al-
Qaeda network a month before the September 11 attacks…" British 
intelligence had previously warned of attacks using aircraft in 
Washington DC and New York.
 
* According to Newsweek, a classified report by a joint 
Congressional inquiry found that the CIA had warned the white House 
just over a month before the attacks that Osama bin Laden was about 
to launch a terrorist strike "in the coming weeks." Agency officials 
warned: "The attack will be spectacular and designed to inflict mass 
casualties against U.S. facilities or interests. Attack preparations 
have been made. Attack will occur with little or no warning."
 
* According to the British Independent, "Weeks before the terrorist 
attacks on 11 September, the United States and the United Nations 
ignored warnings from a secret Taliban emissary that Osama bin Laden 
was planning a huge attack on American soil. The warnings were 
delivered by an aide of Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil, the Taliban Foreign 
Minister at the time, who was known to be deeply unhappy with the 
foreign militants in Afghanistan, including Arabs." 

* The New York Times reported that Egyptian intelligence had warned 
U.S. intelligence a week before the attack that Al Qaeda "was in 
advance stages of executing significant operation against American 
targets" based on intelligence from a secret agent in close contact 
with Bin Laden.
 
* The Telegraph of London reported that "two senior experts with 
Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence service, were sent to 
Washington in August [of 2001] to alert the CIA and FBI to the 
existence" of a terror cell inside the U.S. and warned "that large-
scale terrorist attacks on highly visible targets on the American 
mainland were imminent."
 
* James Ridgeway reported in the Village Voice that both Russian and 
Jordanian intelligence had warned of pending attacks in the U.S. 
during the summer of 2001; both warnings were specifically 
of "suicide pilots" training for attacks on U.S. soil.
 
* Journalist William Rivers Pitt reported that during the summer of 
2001: "The German intelligence service, BND, warned American and 
Israeli agencies that terrorists were planning to hijack commercial 
aircraft and use them as weapons to attack important American 
targets."
 
* Military intelligence officials claim they had identified 9/11 
ringleader Mohammed Atta and three other 9/11 hi-jackers well before 
the attack (others have disputed the claim). 

* James Ridgeway reported that U.S. intelligence officials had 
ignored French intelligence's warnings about Zacarias Moussaoui, an 
Algerian believed to have been planning to accompany the hi-
jackings. 

* FBI agents in Minnesota had launched an investigation into 
Moussaoui, but their information was ignored by Washington. 
Just think about that on Monday. Katrina is always held up as the 
best evidence of this administration's great, avoidable disaster, 
but the truth is that 9/11 should never have happened.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From a friend:
> 
> > .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan 
to pay
> > people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility 
America
> > Course,starting Sept 12th,
> >   and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but hasn't 
been able  to
> > afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis course for  
free...contact
> > the TM center for more info on that..there is a meeting  at 1pm 
Sundayin the
> > Drier building for those ready to start  immediately..tell your 
friends...love
> > and light to all of you

What the big print giveth, the small print will taketh away.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ban bad evil sex talk on FFL !

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
More LOL. But just for the record, Rudra Joe (Llundrub/Kirk Bernhardt) 
who
> may have been before your time on this forum, said that he used to 
entertain
> himself during boring dome events by having oral sex with his 
girlfriend
> behind a stack of foam. And look what The Universe did to him: 
Hurricane
> Katrina.

Christ, are you trying to roll out a red carpet for Tom Pall?

lurk
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem with "Path to 9/11"

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 9/10/06 5:54:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Oh, I'm  going to watch it. And I'll *try* not to
> throw a brick at the  TV.
> 
> Instead of doing that, why not write down, scene by scene,
> what was wrong  and how it really happened and share them
> with us before the talking points come out.

Can't watch and write at the same time, sorry.  If I
see anything that looks wrong that hasn't already been
pointed out, I'll try to remember to make a note of it
afterward.  I'm no expert on the details of what led
up to 9/11 in any case.

There's plenty of stuff on the Web that nails the
inaccuracies (including a compendium from a New
Zealander, where the film has already been telecast).
You don't need me to enumerate the falsehoods.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ban Fiction Now!

[Sal Sunshine]

I thought it was Twain.

On Sep 10, 2006, at 6:41 PM, hermandan0 wrote:

> Another hint... he's a great Iowan singer/songwriter.
>
> First prize has been upgraded to a free TM-Sidhi course and one year's
> salary to fly in the dome.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> "I would never be so dumb
>> To say the stole an election.
>> They bought the damn thing fair and square.
>> The emperor's in his underwear"
>>
>> Who said it? FF'rs should know.
>> First Prize a week's worth or medications.
>> Second Prize two weeks' worth.
>> Third prize a free spairaig brainscan to see if your thalamus passes
>> on signals while reading Sick Humor and Impractical jokes.
>>
>> PS Googling the answer invalidates the prizem, boys and girls.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
>>>
>>> on 9/10/06 10:13 AM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote:
>>>
 For once, Bob and I are in perfect agreement.
 The rest of the world perceives George W.
 Bush -- in my opinion correctly -- as the
 almost perfect embodiment of the collective
 consciousness of the American people.

>> Obviously we do; you elected this crazy nitwit not once but
> twice !
>>>
>>> No we didn¹t. If votes had been accurately counted and black voters
>> hadn¹t
>>> been made to stand in 8 hour lines or prevented from voting at all,
>> he would
>>> have lost both elections. He only won through cheating.
>>>
>>
>
>



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Re: [FairfieldLife] How long does it take to backpeedal on a promise?

[Sal Sunshine]

On Sep 10, 2006, at 6:39 PM, hermandan0 wrote:

> This just out from MUM development office. Note the penultimate
> paragraph where it says yogic flying scholarships "may" be available.

So much for the "friend in the know..."

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[FairfieldLife] Sounds like it's going to be great...

[Sal Sunshine]

Accuracy aside, ABC's '9/11' deserves to bomb

September 8, 2006

BY DOUG ELFMAN TELEVISION CRITIC 

  
 I once sat in a car forever waiting for my mom to come out of a grocery store. I thought that was the definition of "interminable." I had no idea "The Path to 9/11" was in my future.

This is what happens during 4 1/2 log hours of "Path." Terrorists talk about killing Americans for Allah. FBI and other security officials try to track them but fail. 9/11 happens.

You don't say.

This is the most anticlimactic, tension-free movie in the history of terrorist TV.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/cst-ftr-elf08.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ban Fiction Now!

[hermandan0]

Another hint... he's a great Iowan singer/songwriter.

First prize has been upgraded to a free TM-Sidhi course and one year's
salary to fly in the dome.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "I would never be so dumb
> To say the stole an election.
> They bought the damn thing fair and square.
> The emperor's in his underwear"
> 
> Who said it? FF'rs should know.
> First Prize a week's worth or medications.
> Second Prize two weeks' worth.
> Third prize a free spairaig brainscan to see if your thalamus passes
> on signals while reading Sick Humor and Impractical jokes.
> 
> PS Googling the answer invalidates the prizem, boys and girls.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
> >
> > on 9/10/06 10:13 AM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote:
> > 
> > >>> >> For once, Bob and I are in perfect agreement.
> > >>> >> The rest of the world perceives George W.
> > >>> >> Bush -- in my opinion correctly -- as the
> > >>> >> almost perfect embodiment of the collective
> > >>> >> consciousness of the American people.
> > > 
> > >> >Obviously we do; you elected this crazy nitwit not once but
twice !
> > 
> > No we didn¹t. If votes had been accurately counted and black voters
> hadn¹t
> > been made to stand in 8 hour lines or prevented from voting at all,
> he would
> > have lost both elections. He only won through cheating.
> >
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[FairfieldLife] How long does it take to backpeedal on a promise?

[hermandan0]

This just out from MUM development office. Note the penultimate
paragraph where it says yogic flying scholarships "may" be available.

Interesting that it says the M, when "thinking what he himself could
do", "will ask the wealthy of America to support" the flyers. Plus ça
change ... 

Where they could really make money is on the training program that
will be offered to teach everyone how to make a full-time salary in
just two hours a day.

Amazing

...Still dreamin' I'm sleeping in Rosie's bed...


*** Begin message from MUM Development Office Sunday Sept. 10 ***

URGENT REQUIREMENT FOR NATIONAL INVINCIBILITY

2,000 Yogic Flyers required in Fairfield permanently Maharishi has
felt and has seen from watching world events that the numbers in the
Golden Domes are declining - placing at risk the momentum of
invincibility we have created so far. He is very concerned about this.
He feels we must have 2,000 Yogic Flyers permanently flying together
in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City to create invincibility for
America and sustain the momentum for peace in the world. In thinking
what he himself could do, Maharishi said he will ask the wealthy of
America to support Fairfield Yogic Flyers with scholarships of $500
per month. This scholarship support will cover basic living expenses
(room, board, and some spending money) and is intended for people who
would not be able to do long program because they need to return to
full-time jobs to support themselves, as well as people from outside
of Fairfield who can come and would need this support to be here. 

By Monday we would like to have a list of at least 500 people who can
spend 8 hours day in program on a permanent basis (at least one year).

To sign up to be one of the Yogic Flyers on this program, please add
your name to the lists in the Golden Domes or email your name and
contact information to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Everyone in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City is invited to open
their homes to people from out of town. They will receive $200 per
month for providing a room to a Yogic Flyer (from the $500 for living
expenses). If you have a room to rent or need a room, please email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Maharishi said that people would have two hours a day for activity. A
training program will be organized in which people will gain skills in
how to support themselves working two hours a day.

Several Center Invincibility Courses to train new Yogic Flyers will be
held this fall, with the first one starting next week. Scholarship
support for these courses may be available, and everyone is encouraged
to apply regardless of their finances at this time.

The Yogic Flying groups in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City have
been reporting beautiful experiences of higher states of consciousness
- and as a side-effect we have seen heartening developments in
national and world news. This is a critical time and a tremendous
opportunity for all of us. We cannot afford to fall back from what we
have accomplished so far. We need to sustain and build upon what we
have created over these past weeks - and create true and lasting
invincibility for our nation and peace for our world family.

JAI GURU DEV








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[FairfieldLife] Re: MDIXONS dumbass war

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Actually, if Tenet was just telling Bush what he wanted to
> hear he wouldn't have told him to strike the bit about Saddam 
> trying to buy yellow cake from Niger in the State of the Union
> speech, which Bush then quoted British intel instead of the
> CIA. The CIA had intelligence from 4 or 5 different intelligence 
> agencies  that they condensed to present to the White House.
> Foot notes were noted in the  briefs when there were
> disagreements as to the meaning of the intelligence. Sources
> within the CIA didn't always agree with each other on  every 
> bit of intelligence and they were noted. Tenet and others in
> the CIA believed the preponderance of the evidence was a slam
> dunk although there were  some individuals that believed
> individual pieces of evidence were not accurate.

>From AP via Yahoo News:

...As recently as an Aug. 21 news conference, President Bush said 
people should "imagine a world in which you had Saddam Hussein" with 
the capacity to make weapons of mass destruction and "who had 
relations with Zarqawi."

Democrats singled out CIA Director George Tenet, saying that during a 
private meeting in July Tenet told the panel that the White House 
pressured him and that he agreed to back up the administration's case 
for war despite his own agents' doubts about the intelligence it was 
based on.

"Tenet admitted to the Intelligence Committee that the policymakers 
wanted him to 'say something about not being inconsistent with what 
the president had said,'" Intelligence Committee member Carl Levin, D-
Mich., told reporters Friday.

Tenet also told the committee that complying had been "the wrong 
thing to do," according to Levin

http://tinyurl.com/hld8w

> As I said earlier Bush didn't appoint Tenet to the CIA, Clinton
> did. Do you think Clinton would appoint a yes man like you are 
> suggesting to such an important post?

Not intentionally.  But then he wouldn't have
pressured Tenet to tell him what he wanted to
hear, either.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MDIXONS dumbass war

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 9/10/06 5:39:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But 
  nobody suggested the CIA had changed. Thepoint was that they were right 
  all along. Theytold Tenet there was no evidence of WMD; Tenetdecided 
  to play kissy-face with Bush anyway. Hetold Bush what he wanted to 
  hear.And he's been well rewarded for it with thatnice Medal of 
  Freedom he got after he retired.

Now that's a good one. Tenet lied to Bush, knowingly giving him  false 
information, so Bush could invade Iraq (for oil no less) in exchange, he gets a 
medal. Sounds like the red cross bribing me with a cup of orange juice and a 
cookie in exchange for a pint of blood they turn around and sell for 400.00. 
Actually, if Tenet was just telling Bush what he wanted to hear he wouldn't have 
told him to strike the bit about Saddam trying to buy yellow cake from Niger in 
the State of the Union speech, which Bush then quoted British intel instead of 
the CIA. The CIA had intelligence from 4 or 5 different intelligence agencies 
that they condensed to present to the White House. Foot notes were noted in the 
briefs when there were disagreements as to the meaning of the 
intelligence. Sources within the CIA didn't always agree with each other on 
every bit of intelligence and they were noted. Tenet and others in the CIA 
believed the preponderance of the evidence was a slam dunk although there were 
some individuals that believed individual pieces of evidence were not accurate. 
As I said earlier Bush didn't appoint Tenet to the CIA, Clinton did. Do you 
think Clinton would appoint a yes man like you are suggesting to such an 
important post?  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The problem with "Path to 9/11"

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Oh, I'm 
  going to watch it. And I'll *try* not tothrow a brick at the 
TV.

Instead of doing that, why not write down, scene by scene, what was wrong 
and how it really happened and share them with us before the talking points come 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >  > growing up to do.
> > > > 
> > > > Well, there IS a remote chance that Maharishi has
> > > > finally realized that at this point the only way 
> > > > he can get people interested in learning the siddhis
> > > > is to give the course away, and the only way he can
> > > > get them interested in doing them in a group is to
> > > > pay them to do so.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Sal
> > > 
> > > Or His way of trying to save America from itself
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Tell me something, Nablus:
> > 
> > What is the effect from the hate, anger, and vitriol you display 
on 
> > this forum?
> > 
> > Is it contributing to and helping to prevent world peace?
> 
> vitriol ?
>  
> I suppose you are an american ?!
> 
> I have less anger and hate. What I see is a great nation going 
down 
> because of karma, collective fate. To point that out has meager 
> value. I choose to do so because it is a sad thing. The USA was 
> always a dream for poor europeans in the last century. In fact we 
> love America, but the developments in your foreign policy during 
the 
> last years has made many vary. Now you drag our military, more 
> supportive of UN operations, more and more into your silly 
operations 
> in Afghanistan and Iraq. The truth is my friend; all thinking 
> europeans are getting quite fed up with the american goverment, 
with 
> american policy and american culture. 
> 
> It is an interesting development; is is as if the american 
government 
> have made themselves uninteresting. Americanism is not interesting 
> any more, it is boring though dangerous. There are a great people 
> there; but they do nothing, they do not act. They are modern 
slaves 
> to capitalism.
> 
> "The next to go is capitalism." - Maharishi, 1989
> 
> 
> 
> Do my thoughts contribute to world peace ? I hope so.
>


I was actually referring to the hate and anger you were displaying 
to anyone who disagreed with you, American or not.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

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The 
  truth is my friend; all thinking europeans are getting quite fed up with 
  the american goverment, with american policy and american culture. 
  

Then stop asking us to settle the Iranian nuclear situation. You guys deal 
with it.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem with "Path to 9/11"

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>  
> In a message dated 9/10/06 4:45:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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>  
>  
>  
> From the Providence (RI) Journal:
> 
> The two-part, five-hour ABC  special airing Sunday and Monday at 8 
p.m. 
> on Channels 5 and 6 is  compelling and confounding, gripping and 
> disturbing. And it's all  completely true. The program, which gives 
TV 
> docudramas a good name, is  based on the 9/11 Commission Report, 
which 
> was published in  2004.
> 
> All the details are documented. All the characters are real; so  
are the 
> events, unfortunately.
> 
> _http://tinyurl.http://ti_ (http://tinyurl.com/fb5nh)  
> 
> And  the Journal isn't even a conservative newspaper.
> 
> If a major newspaper  can't tell fact from fiction,
> how the general public possibly be expected  to
> 
> well are you going to watch it or boycott  it?

Oh, I'm going to watch it.  And I'll *try* not to
throw a brick at the TV.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

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Now , 
  why not have a national campaign to give free instruction in TM for a 
  > limited time and see what happens.>Now, THAT'S a great 
  idea!But wouldn't that put alot of the TM teachers working outside the 
  TMO out of business?And wouldn't that be bad for the 
  economy?

Absolutely horrible for the economy! All that pure consciousness radiating 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The problem with "Path to 9/11"

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In a message dated 9/10/06 4:45:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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  From the Providence (RI) Journal:The two-part, five-hour ABC 
  special airing Sunday and Monday at 8 p.m. on Channels 5 and 6 is 
  compelling and confounding, gripping and disturbing. And it's all 
  completely true. The program, which gives TV docudramas a good name, is 
  based on the 9/11 Commission Report, which was published in 
  2004.All the details are documented. All the characters are real; so 
  are the events, unfortunately.http://tinyurl.com/fb5nh And 
  the Journal isn't even a conservative newspaper.If a major newspaper 
  can't tell fact from fiction,how the general public possibly be expected 
  to

well are you going to watch it or boycott 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

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On Sep 10, 2006, at 5:21 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2006, at 4:51 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:
>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
>>> wrote:

 On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:13 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
>>
>>> From a friend:
>>>
>>> .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan 
>>> to
> pay
>>>  people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility
> America
>>>  Course,starting Sept 12th,
>>>and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but hasn't
>>> been
>>> able  to afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis
>>> course for
>>>  free...contact the TM center for more info on that..there is a
>>> meeting  at 1pm Sundayin the Drier building for those ready to
>>> start
>>>  immediately..tell your friends...love and light to all of you
>>
>> Hahahahahahahaha.
>>
>> Rick if your friend  still believes any of this, he needs to
>>> seriously
>> get real.
>>
>> Sal
>>
>
> Unless someone's donating it.

 Then it wouldn't be free.

 Sal

>>>
>>> Still, it would be free to the participant, like the DC course
>>
>> Than say that.  Otherwise, it's just perpetuating the same old
>> falsehoods.
>> Sal
>>
>
> Actually, I think that's how the DC and MUM courses will actually turn
> a profit. Donations covering the participants fees.

But that's not an honest profit.  Some would argue it's not really even 
a profit, it's just taking advantage of someone else's generosity.

> That seems to be
> the new model - foundations, donations (and real estate) I have a
> hard time believing that the TMO would actually use it's own resources
>  . (Unless someone knows otherwise.)

Beside the point.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The problem with "Path to 9/11"

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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> From the Providence 
  (RI) Journal:> > The two-part, five-hour ABC special airing 
  Sunday and Monday at 8 p.m. > on Channels 5 and 6 is compelling and 
  confounding, gripping and > disturbing. And it's all completely true. 
  The program, which gives TV > docudramas a good name, is based on 
  the 9/11 Commission Report, which > was published in 2004.> 
  > All the details are documented. All the characters are real; so 
  are the > events, unfortunately.> > http://tinyurl.com/fb5nh > 
  > And the Journal isn't even a conservative newspaper.> > 
  If a major newspaper can't tell fact from fiction,> how the general 
  public possibly be expected to> do so?>We rely on people 
  like you who haven't even seen the film to tell us about 
  it.

I hear they even have a seen with Sandy Burglar stuffing documents down his 
pants! we all know that was a lie!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: MDIXONS dumbass war

[authfriend]

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>  
> In a message dated 9/10/06 3:32:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Nonono.  You cited the "new director" has having been
> the one who used the term  "slam-dunk" with reference
> to WMD in Iraq.
> 
> No Judy, there is a misunderstanding some where. I don't recall
> saying anybody other than Tenet called the case for WMD's a slam 
> dunk.

Sure looked like it to me, but I'll take your word
for it that isn't what you meant.

 However both  Tenet and subsequent directors,Goss and Hayden, 
> have dealt with a well  entrenched CIA that has been in place for 
> many years through various  administrations. Just because one 
> changes the director of the CIA doesn't mean  you have changed 
> the CIA.

But nobody suggested the CIA had changed.  The
point was that they were right all along.  They
told Tenet there was no evidence of WMD; Tenet
decided to play kissy-face with Bush anyway.  He
told Bush what he wanted to hear.

And he's been well rewarded for it with that
nice Medal of Freedom he got after he retired.

Lawson's point was that the report on what the
CIA said before the invasion was *put out by the
Senate Republicans*, even though it reflects
horrendously negatively on the administration.

Whether the CIA changes or not over administrations
was completely irrelevant.  That's why I
misunderstood you, because what you claim to have
been saying didn't make any sense.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..





on 9/10/06 5:22 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Now , why not have a national campaign to give free instruction in 
> TM for a  
>> limited time and see what happens.
>> 
> 
> Now, THAT'S a great idea!
> 
> But wouldn't that put alot of the TM teachers working outside the 
> TMO out of business?
> 
> And wouldn't that be bad for the economy?

I think there have been “learn TM free” campaigns in local areas, like Washington DC, directed at students, but there wasn’t much response. I think there was some stipulation that they mediate regularly for a certain period of time. I don’t know how that was to be enforced.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108"  
> wrote:
> >
> >  > growing up to do.
> > > 
> > > Well, there IS a remote chance that Maharishi has
> > > finally realized that at this point the only way 
> > > he can get people interested in learning the siddhis
> > > is to give the course away, and the only way he can
> > > get them interested in doing them in a group is to
> > > pay them to do so.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Sal
> > 
> > Or His way of trying to save America from itself
> >
> 
> 
> Tell me something, Nablus:
> 
> What is the effect from the hate, anger, and vitriol you display on 
> this forum?
> 
> Is it contributing to and helping to prevent world peace?

vitriol ?
 
I suppose you are an american ?!

I have less anger and hate. What I see is a great nation going down 
because of karma, collective fate. To point that out has meager 
value. I choose to do so because it is a sad thing. The USA was 
always a dream for poor europeans in the last century. In fact we 
love America, but the developments in your foreign policy during the 
last years has made many vary. Now you drag our military, more 
supportive of UN operations, more and more into your silly operations 
in Afghanistan and Iraq. The truth is my friend; all thinking 
europeans are getting quite fed up with the american goverment, with 
american policy and american culture. 

It is an interesting development; is is as if the american government 
have made themselves uninteresting. Americanism is not interesting 
any more, it is boring though dangerous. There are a great people 
there; but they do nothing, they do not act. They are modern slaves 
to capitalism.

"The next to go is capitalism." - Maharishi, 1989



Do my thoughts contribute to world peace ? I hope so.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..





on 9/10/06 4:32 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Take your checks from your stupid employer and shut the f... up ! You 
> and your comrades are the reason why that country is having big 
> problems. If I thought you could think, I would advertise that idea 
> to you.

To quote Curly of the Three Stooges (great spiritual luminaries of the 20th Century): “I’m tryin’ to think but nuttin happens.”

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

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Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..





on 9/10/06 4:02 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi, Rick. This is either satire or a scam. Surely the Shrivastavas 
> can see through the nonsense of Mahesh's butt bouncing. They aren't 
> going to part with any money. While the "Last Message" thing is 
> silly, it's more truthful than the Shrivastavas parting with money.

Might not be Movement money. Might have been offered by a rich donor.

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[FairfieldLife] "Path to 9/11" clips now available (was: Re: Judy, I am impressed!)

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> --- "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> > ---"authfriend"  

> > > Actually, as of this moment, I've probably seen more
> > > of the film than anyone else on this forum and much
> > > of the general public, about 30 minutes' worth.
> 
> Trumped, boys and girls. We, im England have seen the 
> entire 2.5 hours of the first half. Very heavy stuff, but
> of Wagnerian length. And fine for those with Wagnerian
> bladders.
> Uns.

So tell, tell.  What did you think?  Is it as bad as
they've been saying?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Sep 10, 2006, at 4:51 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:13 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:
> >>
> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  On Sep 10, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > From a friend:
> >
> > .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan to
> >>> pay
> >  people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility
America
> >  Course,starting Sept 12th,
> >and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but hasn't 
> > been
> > able  to afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis
> > course for
> >  free...contact the TM center for more info on that..there is a
> > meeting  at 1pm Sundayin the Drier building for those ready to 
> > start
> >  immediately..tell your friends...love and light to all of you
> 
>  Hahahahahahahaha.
> 
>  Rick if your friend  still believes any of this, he needs to
> > seriously
>  get real.
> 
>  Sal
> 
> >>>
> >>> Unless someone's donating it.
> >>
> >> Then it wouldn't be free.
> >>
> >> Sal
> >>
> >
> > Still, it would be free to the participant, like the DC course
> 
> Than say that.  Otherwise, it's just perpetuating the same old 
> falsehoods.
> Sal
>

Actually, I think that's how the DC and MUM courses will actually turn
a profit. Donations covering the participants fees. That seems to be
the new model - foundations, donations (and real estate) I have a
hard time believing that the TMO would actually use it's own resources
 . (Unless someone knows otherwise.)

JohnY







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

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In a message dated 9/10/06 4:07:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Well, 
  there IS a remote chance that Maharishi hasfinally realized that at this 
  point the only way he can get people interested in learning the 
  siddhisis to give the course away, and the only way he canget them 
  interested in doing them in a group is topay them to do so.> 
  Sal>

Well... well... what about free advanced techniques? I haven't had one of 
those in 12 years and have two more to go!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 9/10/06 3:42:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
  fe%40yahoogroups.com> , Sal Sunshine 
  >> wrote:> >> > On Sep 10, 
  2006, at 2:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:> > > > > From a 
  friend:> > >> > > ., I want everyone to know that 
  last night M announced a plan to> pay > > > people$500 a 
  month to be in the dome for the Invincibility America> > > 
  Course,starting Sept 12th,> > > and also, if you know anyone who 
  wants the sidhis but hasn't been> > > able to afford them, he is 
  also going to offer the sidhiscourse for> > > free...contact 
  the TM center for more info on that..there is a> > > meeting at 
  1pm Sundayin the Drier building for those ready to start> > > 
  immediately..tell your friends...love and light to all of you> 
  > > > Hahahahahahahaha.> > > > Rick if your 
  friend still believes any of this, he needs to seriously> > get 
  real.> > > > Sal> >> >> From a 
  friend ³in the know²:> > It¹s true. As of today, Sept 10th, 637 
  have signed up in the DrierBldg. for> the free siddhi's courses to 
  start soon. There are several coursesplanned> between now & 
  Nov. There may be courses in Canada as well.>I'm in San Diego, 
  but I could get up there in time. How do I sign upfor 
  this?

Wait on! Make sure there isn't some trick like 3,000.00 room and board or 
something before spending your money on a trip to 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>  
> In a message dated 9/10/06 3:32:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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> It’s true. As of today, Sept 10th,  637 have signed up in the 
Drier Bldg. for 
> the free siddhi's courses to start  soon. There are several 
courses planned 
> between now & Nov. There may be  courses in Canada as well. 
> 
> 
> Now , why not have a national campaign to give free instruction in 
TM for a  
> limited time and see what happens.
>

Now, THAT'S a great idea!

But wouldn't that put alot of the TM teachers working outside the 
TMO out of business?

And wouldn't that be bad for the economy?






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[FairfieldLife] Isn't this exciting?

[shempmcgurk]

I've always thought that the whole concept of Netflix is neat.

Soon, Netflix may become obsolete; if I understand this article 
correctly, if I want a particular film, I'll just download it via my 
computer and high-speed internet.  Then, once it's in my computer, 
I'll just burn it onto a DVD via my DVD burner, take the disc to my 
DVD player in the living room and watch it on my TV.

Oh, brave new world...

-

Apple set to start film download site 
By Aline van Duyn in New York

Published: September 10 2006 20:30 | Last updated: September 10 2006 
20:30

Apple Computer, whose iPod personal music player and iTunes digital 
music store dominate the legal music downloads business, is this 
week expected to unveil a service for downloading films.

Although the company is maintaining its usual silence, Apple has 
sent out invitations, marked "It's Showtime", for an event in San 
Francisco on Tuesday.

A move by Apple into digital film downloads would be another step 
towards a showdown for dominance among big internet's companies in 
what is expected to be a huge market one day.

Last week, Amazon.com joined the rush with the announcement of its 
Unbox service, which will allow consumers to download thousands of 
television shows and films. Google, Time Warner's AOL, News Corp 
divisions, including MySpace, studio-backed ventures such as 
MovieLink and smaller internet players such as video-sharing site 
Guba all sell or plan to sell films via the web.

Thomas McInerney, chief executive of Guba, said: "Video is the new 
motif for the internet and there are already thousands of video 
sites. There is probably only room for a limited number of players 
and the dominant ones are likely to be established in the next six 
to 12 months."

The question is whether Apple will be a trigger for wider usage of 
digital film services.

So far, the availability of films for viewing on computers or 
portable devices has made little impact when compared with the 
market for selling and renting physical DVDs – worth more than $20bn 
a year in the US alone and dominated by large retailers, 
particularly Wal-Mart.

High-speed broadband internet connections make it easier to download 
films although most are illegally copied versions through file-
sharing networks.

Indeed, an internet search for "movie downloads" brings up a 
plethora of websites offering such services. Yet the paucity of 
guidance about which ones are legal downloads, which provide illegal 
versions of films, as well as confusion about whether sites are 
fronts for credit card frauds or other dodgy operations, makes many 
people hesitate to use them.

The high pricing on legitimate digital sites is another issue. 
Pricing is generally the same as for physical DVDs, reflecting 
concerns among retailers that they are not undercut. Amazon, for 
example, offers physical DVDs for less than some of its digital 
versions, even though consumers are not able to burn digital films 
on to blank DVDs.

Richard Greenfield, analyst at Pali Research, said: "Restrictions on 
use should drive a cheaper price to the consumer, not the same or 
higher pricing. The studios need to accelerate the attractiveness of 
digital delivery to prevent illegal [networks] from capturing too 
much market share."






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 9/10/06 3:32:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It’s true. As of today, Sept 10th, 
  637 have signed up in the Drier Bldg. for the free siddhi's courses to start 
  soon. There are several courses planned between now & Nov. There may be 
  courses in Canada as well. 

Now , why not have a national campaign to give free instruction in TM for a 
limited time and see what happens.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MDIXONS dumbass war

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 9/10/06 3:32:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nonono. 
  You cited the "new director" has having beenthe one who used the term 
  "slam-dunk" with referenceto WMD in Iraq.

No Judy, there is a misunderstanding some where. I don't recall saying 
anybody other than Tenet called the case for WMD's a slam dunk. However both 
Tenet and subsequent directors,Goss and Hayden, have dealt with a well 
entrenched CIA that has been in place for many years through various 
administrations. Just because one changes the director of the CIA doesn't mean 
you have changed the CIA.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[Sal Sunshine]

On Sep 10, 2006, at 4:51 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:13 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:
>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
>>> wrote:

 On Sep 10, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

> From a friend:
>
> .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan to
>>> pay
>  people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility America
>  Course,starting Sept 12th,
>and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but hasn't 
> been
> able  to afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis
> course for
>  free...contact the TM center for more info on that..there is a
> meeting  at 1pm Sundayin the Drier building for those ready to 
> start
>  immediately..tell your friends...love and light to all of you

 Hahahahahahahaha.

 Rick if your friend  still believes any of this, he needs to
> seriously
 get real.

 Sal

>>>
>>> Unless someone's donating it.
>>
>> Then it wouldn't be free.
>>
>> Sal
>>
>
> Still, it would be free to the participant, like the DC course

Than say that.  Otherwise, it's just perpetuating the same old 
falsehoods.
Sal



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 9/10/06 3:26:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Yebbut...free TM-Sidhis? Can't take 'em back orcharge for 'em once 
  they've been taught.

Big question, are there many TMers out there that are regular and want them 
that haven't already got them? Not many initiations in recent 
years.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes

[nablus108]

I can see that the qualities of love, compassion, and tolerance have 
> flourished in you as a result of regular TM practise, Nablus.
> 
> Actually, I find it quite amusing that you felt it important enough 
> to represent the word "fucked" by "f." at the same time you 
> responded with a comment that is cutting, cynical and venal. 

By appointment, I presume.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
>  > growing up to do.
> > 
> > Well, there IS a remote chance that Maharishi has
> > finally realized that at this point the only way 
> > he can get people interested in learning the siddhis
> > is to give the course away, and the only way he can
> > get them interested in doing them in a group is to
> > pay them to do so.
> > 
> > 
> > > Sal
> 
> Or His way of trying to save America from itself
>


Tell me something, Nablus:

What is the effect from the hate, anger, and vitriol you display on 
this forum?

Is it contributing to and helping to prevent world peace?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[jyouells2000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:13 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sep 10, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> >>
> >>> From a friend:
> >>>
> >>> .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan to
> > pay
> >>>  people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility America
> >>>  Course,starting Sept 12th,
> >>>and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but hasn't been
> >>> able  to afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis
course for
> >>>  free...contact the TM center for more info on that..there is a
> >>> meeting  at 1pm Sundayin the Drier building for those ready to start
> >>>  immediately..tell your friends...love and light to all of you
> >>
> >> Hahahahahahahaha.
> >>
> >> Rick if your friend  still believes any of this, he needs to
seriously
> >> get real.
> >>
> >> Sal
> >>
> >
> > Unless someone's donating it.
> 
> Then it wouldn't be free.
> 
> Sal
>

Still, it would be free to the participant, like the DC course






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[FairfieldLife] "Path to 9/11" clips now available (was: Re: Judy, I am impressed!)

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--- "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ---"authfriend"  
> > --- I "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > "shempmcgurk" 
> > > >
> > > > I think we should all be impressed by the fact that Judy Stein 
> has, 
> > > > before any of us and before any of the general public at 
> large, 
> > > > been able to see a sneak preview of "Path to 9/11".
> > > 
> > > Shemp, go take your medication, please.
> > 
> > Actually, as of this moment, I've probably seen more
> > of the film than anyone else on this forum and much
> > of the general public, about 30 minutes' worth.

Trumped, boys and girls. We, im England have seen the 
entire 2.5 hours of the first half. Very heavy stuff, but
of Wagnerian length. And fine for those with Wagnerian
bladders.
Uns.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem with "Path to 9/11"

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> From the Providence (RI) Journal:
> 
> The two-part, five-hour ABC special airing Sunday and Monday at 8 
p.m. 
> on Channels 5 and 6 is compelling and confounding, gripping and 
> disturbing. And it's all completely true. The program, which gives 
TV 
> docudramas a good name, is based on the 9/11 Commission Report, 
which 
> was published in 2004.
> 
> All the details are documented. All the characters are real; so 
are the 
> events, unfortunately.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/fb5nh 
> 
> And the Journal isn't even a conservative newspaper.
> 
> If a major newspaper can't tell fact from fiction,
> how the general public possibly be expected to
> do so?
>

We rely on people like you who haven't even seen the film to tell us 
about it.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[nablus108]

 > growing up to do.
> 
> Well, there IS a remote chance that Maharishi has
> finally realized that at this point the only way 
> he can get people interested in learning the siddhis
> is to give the course away, and the only way he can
> get them interested in doing them in a group is to
> pay them to do so.
> 
> 
> > Sal

Or His way of trying to save America from itself






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[FairfieldLife] The problem with "Path to 9/11"

[authfriend]

>From the Providence (RI) Journal:

The two-part, five-hour ABC special airing Sunday and Monday at 8 p.m. 
on Channels 5 and 6 is compelling and confounding, gripping and 
disturbing. And it's all completely true. The program, which gives TV 
docudramas a good name, is based on the 9/11 Commission Report, which 
was published in 2004.

All the details are documented. All the characters are real; so are the 
events, unfortunately.

http://tinyurl.com/fb5nh 

And the Journal isn't even a conservative newspaper.

If a major newspaper can't tell fact from fiction,
how the general public possibly be expected to
do so?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > on 9/10/06 12:55 PM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> > > > > >  If Maharishi really wants to get big
> > > > > > numbers in
> > > > > >> > the domes, tell him to hop in his time machine, go 
back 
> > > about 
> > > > 40
> > > > > > years, and
> > > > > >> > do it again with honesty, integrity, sensibility, and 
> > plenty 
> > > > of
> > > > > > feedback
> > > > > >> > from others who embody those qualities.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Then what would happen ? He would have a boat full of 
> > weirdos 
> > > > onboard.
> > > > > > And the 1% wold not work. Hardly the effect the 
americans 
> > needs 
> > > > at
> > > > > > this point when universal karma is hitting them bigtime.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > He ended up with a boat full of weirdoes. I¹m suggesting 
that 
> > if 
> > > > honesty,
> > > > > integrity, and sensibility had been the guiding 
principles, 
> he 
> > > > would have
> > > > > ended up with those sorts of people instead, and the 
movement 
> > > > would have
> > > > > ended up very different than it is today. But it¹s easy to 
> > play 
> > > > what if.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think he would have had to go back 40 years, just 30 
> > years.
> > > > 
> > > > That's when the decline in initiations happened, circa 
1976.  
> > > That's 
> > > > when he started being dishonest with the public in a big way 
> > (i.e. 
> > > > flying).
> > > 
> > > When the Sidhis came out at that time "not one more initiation 
is 
> > > necessary."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You are obviously quoting MMY here, Nablus.
> > 
> > Can't you think for yourself instead of being the obvious cult 
> > member that you are?
> > 
> > 
> > > But that escaped you, didn't it. Why are you so obsessed 
> > > with the Movement ?
> > 
> > 
> > I'm obsessed with the Movement because it held the best hope for 
> the 
> > world.  And it got -- unnecessarily -- fucked up.
> 
> 
> What f you up - yourself ?





I can see that the qualities of love, compassion, and tolerance have 
flourished in you as a result of regular TM practise, Nablus.

Actually, I find it quite amusing that you felt it important enough 
to represent the word "fucked" by "f." at the same time you 
responded with a comment that is cutting, cynical and venal. 





> 
> > 
> > I believe in discussing the causes and effects of what fucked it 
up.
> > 
> > Don't you?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Because you are to attached to it, to your own 
> > > career and ambition probably. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You're forgiven.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >  
> > > The Movement belongs to those who moove. If your intention is 
to 
> > not 
> > > moove, forget the Movement.
> > >
> >
>







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[FairfieldLife] "Path to 9/11" clips now available (was: Re: Judy, I am impressed!)

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> >  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think we should all be impressed by the fact that Judy 
> Stein 
> > has, 
> > > > > before any of us and before any of the general public at 
> > large, 
> > > > > been able to see a sneak preview of "Path to 9/11".
> > > > 
> > > > Shemp, go take your medication, please.
> > > 
> > > Actually, as of this moment, I've probably seen more
> > > of the film than anyone else on this forum and much
> > > of the general public, about 30 minutes' worth.
> > > 
> > > Six five-minute clips from the film are up at 
> > > RedState.org (a right wingnut site):
> > > 
> > > http://www.redstate.com/911clips
> > > 
> > > I just watched them all.  The site says they're
> > > from the *unedited* version--"The Video Democrats
> > > DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE."  They include the scene
> > > where Sandy Berger won't agree to taking down
> > > bin Laden, and the one in which Madeleine Albright
> > > (whose name they misspell!) defends her warning
> > > to the Pakistanis about the missiles being fired
> > > over their airspace at Sudan.
> > > 
> > > Both scenes, according to the principals, are
> > > complete fabrications.
> > > 
> > > The audio, unfortunately, is out of synch with the
> > > video in all the clips, which makes it a little hard
> > > to follow what's going on.
> > > 
> > > But what they're intended to convey couldn't be
> > > clearer.
> > >
> > What?
> > 
> > You mean you've only seen 30 minutes of a 5 hour film?
> > 
> > Yet you not only pontificate about it but seek to PREVENT people 
> > from seeing it (oh, of course, you'll say that you just want to 
> > prevent them from seeing it BEFORE the election)?
> 
> Actually, I'd be happier if they ran it as is, as
> scheduled, and had a detailed rebuttal afterward.



I'm glad to hear that.



> 
> > By the way you were talking about it, I was sure that you
> > had seen the entire thing.
> 
> No, you were well aware that enough information
> about it from those who *have* seen it--including
> transcripts of dialogue--have been made public 
> to know that it's seriously misrepresentational.
> 
> > Well, at least you're an equal-opportunity fascist: you're for 
> > violating freedom for yourself as well as for others.
> 
> No, I'm against violating anybody's freedoms.
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes or perish

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> Maitraya told me to tell you to think for yourself.
> 
Thanks Peter. Do you object to the idea of the Masters being incarnated 
now ?






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[FairfieldLife] GCP/EGG Update, Sept. 8, 2006

[Patrick Gillam]

Does anyone here get Roger Nelson's periodic email updates?
He's the Princeton researcher into collective consciousness.
His recent email mentioned a number of organizations 
readers here may find interesting, such as The Society for 
Scientific Exploration, which Nelson says stretches the 
boundaries of what is accepted as science. 

Other links include a Life Force Summit and a 
Hitchhiker's Guide to Awakening.

Here are the relevant paragraphs:

--

In England, Lefty and I traveled with a group interested in crop circles,
but we also visited Avebury and Stonehenge.  Avebury is a remarkable
place, one of the largest and oldest of the stone circles. I was there
collecting Field REG data, and also participated in a large meditation
event that was coordinated and synchronized with groups around the world.
In two visits to the part of Avebury prepared for the event, the REG data
showed significant deviations, and GCP data collected during the same time
showed a non-significant positive trend. A brief report is linked from
the results table at http://noosphere.princeton.edu/results.html. It is
event number 220. I must say that although I do have a science-oriented
attitude, the real measure of this ancient center is in a more personal
response: I loved it there.

The GCP has decided to go ahead with an idea that has been discussed for
a long time, namely to collect at least two, and maybe as many as five
trials per second instead of one.  This will allow some new analytical
work that bears on mechanism, and also gives an opportunity to keep some
data sequestered for comparitive analysis 6 months or a year later,
enabling a new level of testing for reliability and assessment of a
special class of theoretical models. This work will depend
on a successful proposal for new funding,
so your positive regard is most welcome.

One of my favorite organizations is the SSE, which I recommend you
consider joining to help support the only general forum for scientific
topics that stretch the boundaries of what is accepted as science. The
website is www.scientificexploration.org. It fosters creative, out-of-the
box thinking. For example, a few days ago I received a description of the
"Life Force Summit", which is the work of SSE members. The summit will
bring together people who intend to do something practical and direct
about making a positive future. The website is www.life-force-summit.com.

The list of groups working with such intent could be long, but we are
most of us already linked into organizations and possiblities that give
us a place to put our energies. A consolidation giving meta-access to
life-affirming efforts of this kind called the "Hitchiker's Guide to
Awakening" is under construction at www.universal-awakening.org.

Be well, and as you have extra time and energy, give it to the future.

Best, Roger

-- 
Roger D. Nelson
Director, Global Consciousness Project
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[nablus108]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From a friend "in the know":
> > > >
> > > > It's true. As of today, Sept 10th, 637 have signed up in the 
> > > > Drier Bldg. for the free siddhi's courses to start soon. 
There 
> > > > are several courses planned between now & Nov. There may be 
> > > > courses in Canada as well.
> > > 
> > > Would this be the same friend who told about the promised 
> > > $2000/month salaries to all the recertified govs?  And 
> > > maybe he's a relative of the same friend who also said 
> > > Vedic City would include a world-famous health center. 
> > > And maybe they're cousins to the same friend who said 
> > > the Sidhis would teach you how to fly.
> > > 
> > > Anyone still believing this crapola has some serious 
> > > growing up to do.
> > 
> > Well, there IS a remote chance that Maharishi has
> > finally realized that at this point the only way 
> > he can get people interested in learning the siddhis
> > is to give the course away, and the only way he can
> > get them interested in doing them in a group is to
> > pay them to do so.
> > 
> > 
> > > Sal
> 
> Can you spell Mothers and Fathers Indian Association? The 
> Shrivastavas would never part with a rupee that wasn't in their 
best 
> interests and butt bouncing is stupid, they can see that. No 
percent 
> of anything changes much or there wouldn't have been a murder at 
MUM! 
> If MUM can't prevent 1 murder, then no amount of Butt Bouncing is 
> going to do anything other than cause sore Butts ... well, I'm 
> slightly wrong there because the foam industry is going to benefit 
> and I am sure the Shrivastavas have invested in just the kind that 
> only Maheshites buy.
> 


Take your checks from your stupid employer and shut the f... up ! You 
and your comrades are the reason why that country is having big 
problems. If I thought you could think, I would advertise that idea 
to you.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes

[Peter]

Maitraya told me to tell you to think for yourself.

--- nablus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108"
>  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "shempmcgurk" 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick
> Archer  
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > on 9/10/06 12:55 PM, nablus108 at nablus108@
> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> > > > > >  If Maharishi really wants to get big
> > > > > > numbers in
> > > > > >> > the domes, tell him to hop in his time
> machine, go back 
> > > about 
> > > > 40
> > > > > > years, and
> > > > > >> > do it again with honesty, integrity,
> sensibility, and 
> > plenty 
> > > > of
> > > > > > feedback
> > > > > >> > from others who embody those qualities.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Then what would happen ? He would have a
> boat full of 
> > weirdos 
> > > > onboard.
> > > > > > And the 1% wold not work. Hardly the
> effect the americans 
> > needs 
> > > > at
> > > > > > this point when universal karma is hitting
> them bigtime.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > He ended up with a boat full of weirdoes.
> I¹m suggesting that 
> > if 
> > > > honesty,
> > > > > integrity, and sensibility had been the
> guiding principles, 
> he 
> > > > would have
> > > > > ended up with those sorts of people instead,
> and the movement 
> > > > would have
> > > > > ended up very different than it is today.
> But it¹s easy to 
> > play 
> > > > what if.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think he would have had to go back 40
> years, just 30 
> > years.
> > > > 
> > > > That's when the decline in initiations
> happened, circa 1976.  
> > > That's 
> > > > when he started being dishonest with the
> public in a big way 
> > (i.e. 
> > > > flying).
> > > 
> > > When the Sidhis came out at that time "not one
> more initiation is 
> > > necessary."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You are obviously quoting MMY here, Nablus.
> > 
> > Can't you think for yourself instead of being the
> obvious cult 
> > member that you are?
> > 
> > 
> > > But that escaped you, didn't it. Why are you so
> obsessed 
> > > with the Movement ?
> > 
> > 
> > I'm obsessed with the Movement because it held the
> best hope for 
> the 
> > world.  And it got -- unnecessarily -- fucked up.
> 
> 
> What f you up - yourself ?
> 
> > 
> > I believe in discussing the causes and effects of
> what fucked it up.
> > 
> > Don't you?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Because you are to attached to it, to your own 
> > > career and ambition probably. Forgive me if I'm
> wrong.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You're forgiven.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >  
> > > The Movement belongs to those who moove. If your
> intention is to 
> > not 
> > > moove, forget the Movement.
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjaim Creme on worlds affairs

[curtisdeltablues]

"The Sword of Cleavage is the energy of Love."

This Creme dude may be on to something.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Questions & Answers
> 
> Q. What kind of future do you see for America within the next couple 
> of decades?
> A. If enough people accept quickly the changes that Maitreya will be 
> calling for, we can transform life in America and the rest of the 
> world very soon. Once the idea of sharing, and justice engages the 
> imagination, when people see the simple common sense of sharing, 
> creating justice and therefore peace as the only way to create peace 
> and an end of terrorism and war, then millions will join the ranks 
> around Maitreya. 
> You have no idea how eloquent Maitreya is, how simple and 
> knowledgeable, with a mind which is razor sharp and can illumine 
> every problem. His love and wisdom are endless, the love of God and 
> the wisdom of all the ages. His ability to enter into the hearts of 
> all and release His energy of love is the sword which He wields to 
> change the world. The Sword of Cleavage is the energy of Love. 
> As people respond to this energy the world will be divided – those 
> who are clamouring for change along the lines Maitreya is advocating, 
> and those who are fearful and looking to the past, who see Him as the 
> Antichrist, are fearful and do not know what to do. They will stand 
> aside and watch the events, and so lose the opportunity presented, 
> for the first time in history, to take part in the transformation of 
> the world. It is up to each individual, from where he or she stands, 
> to assert their divinity. 
> Maitreya is speaking about sharing, justice, freedom and about right 
> relationship. They are all divine principles. Freedom, justice and 
> right relationship are at the basis of life and make for correct 
> relationship between peoples and between nation and nation. 
> It is competition that leads to war and prevents right human 
> relationship from evolving. The creation of correct human 
> relationship is the next step forward in our evolution. When you have 
> that you have the beginning of true divine life. The first step into 
> sharing, says Maitreya, is the first step into your divinity. What 
> could be simpler or truer?
> 
> Q. Is a third world war imminent — what with the conflict in the 
> Middle East? 
> A. No, it is not. If we were in a situation which was so `hot' – it 
> is very `hot' at present – that World War Three was inevitable, 
> Maitreya would intervene. 
> It is better that He does not have to intervene because it would 
> infringe human free will. But if it were necessary, He would 
> intervene. In that case, He would be restricted in what He can give 
> to humanity for quite some time, until our karma allowed Him to give 
> what He can give. If He used that karmic gift, as it were, to prevent 
> a third world war, it would hinder Him from doing things that He 
> otherwise would do. 
> The Masters, with a broader vision, know that eventually things will 
> clarify and peace will be established. They know, as Maitreya says, 
> that the end is known from the beginning. Have no fear. That does not 
> mean sit still and do nothing. That is the point. 
> You have to be inspired to act. He says: "Nothing happens by itself. 
> Man must act and implement his will." People, full of idealism, think 
> that if you can envisage something, it already exists; that if you 
> know that God is perfect, then the world is perfect. You cannot shut 
> your eyes to all the ills in the world. It is foolish. It is not 
> adult. Be adult and face the ills of the world and do something about 
> them. You have to act to implement your will. If you want peace, 
> justice, sharing and right relationship, you have to do it. Make it 
> known that you want it. Elect the right people to get it. Act. Become 
> active. Otherwise, you live in the clouds. 
> This is a time like none other in history. It will not be repeated. 
> The Hierarchy of Masters is returning to the world for the first time 
> in 98,000 years. You have the opportunity to work for Them, to make 
> easier the work of Maitreya, to light the way, to make known to the 
> world that He is here. Don't wait till Maitreya comes out in the 
> open. Tell everybody who will listen that He is here, what His plans 
> are, what His priorities are – right relationship, sharing, justice, 
> peace – these are the priorities. Looking after the planet is a 
> number one priority. You have to make these your own, not just listen 
> to someone like me. 
> We all have to become involved and to tell the world what is 
> happening in the world, that this is the most amazing time, there has 
> never been a time in the history of the world like this time. To be 
> alive at this time is an extraordinary blessing.
> With all the pain and the suffering in the world the opportunity for 
> humanity is immense.
> 
> Q. Who won the election in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes

[nablus108]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > on 9/10/06 12:55 PM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> > > > >  If Maharishi really wants to get big
> > > > > numbers in
> > > > >> > the domes, tell him to hop in his time machine, go back 
> > about 
> > > 40
> > > > > years, and
> > > > >> > do it again with honesty, integrity, sensibility, and 
> plenty 
> > > of
> > > > > feedback
> > > > >> > from others who embody those qualities.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Then what would happen ? He would have a boat full of 
> weirdos 
> > > onboard.
> > > > > And the 1% wold not work. Hardly the effect the americans 
> needs 
> > > at
> > > > > this point when universal karma is hitting them bigtime.
> > > > > 
> > > > He ended up with a boat full of weirdoes. I¹m suggesting that 
> if 
> > > honesty,
> > > > integrity, and sensibility had been the guiding principles, 
he 
> > > would have
> > > > ended up with those sorts of people instead, and the movement 
> > > would have
> > > > ended up very different than it is today. But it¹s easy to 
> play 
> > > what if.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I don't think he would have had to go back 40 years, just 30 
> years.
> > > 
> > > That's when the decline in initiations happened, circa 1976.  
> > That's 
> > > when he started being dishonest with the public in a big way 
> (i.e. 
> > > flying).
> > 
> > When the Sidhis came out at that time "not one more initiation is 
> > necessary."
> 
> 
> 
> You are obviously quoting MMY here, Nablus.
> 
> Can't you think for yourself instead of being the obvious cult 
> member that you are?
> 
> 
> > But that escaped you, didn't it. Why are you so obsessed 
> > with the Movement ?
> 
> 
> I'm obsessed with the Movement because it held the best hope for 
the 
> world.  And it got -- unnecessarily -- fucked up.


What f you up - yourself ?

> 
> I believe in discussing the causes and effects of what fucked it up.
> 
> Don't you?
> 
> 
> 
> > Because you are to attached to it, to your own 
> > career and ambition probably. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> You're forgiven.
> 
> 
> 
> >  
> > The Movement belongs to those who moove. If your intention is to 
> not 
> > moove, forget the Movement.
> >
>







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[FairfieldLife] "Path to 9/11" clips now available (was: Re: Judy, I am impressed!)

[authfriend]

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
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> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think we should all be impressed by the fact that Judy 
Stein 
> has, 
> > > > before any of us and before any of the general public at 
> large, 
> > > > been able to see a sneak preview of "Path to 9/11".
> > > 
> > > Shemp, go take your medication, please.
> > 
> > Actually, as of this moment, I've probably seen more
> > of the film than anyone else on this forum and much
> > of the general public, about 30 minutes' worth.
> > 
> > Six five-minute clips from the film are up at 
> > RedState.org (a right wingnut site):
> > 
> > http://www.redstate.com/911clips
> > 
> > I just watched them all.  The site says they're
> > from the *unedited* version--"The Video Democrats
> > DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE."  They include the scene
> > where Sandy Berger won't agree to taking down
> > bin Laden, and the one in which Madeleine Albright
> > (whose name they misspell!) defends her warning
> > to the Pakistanis about the missiles being fired
> > over their airspace at Sudan.
> > 
> > Both scenes, according to the principals, are
> > complete fabrications.
> > 
> > The audio, unfortunately, is out of synch with the
> > video in all the clips, which makes it a little hard
> > to follow what's going on.
> > 
> > But what they're intended to convey couldn't be
> > clearer.
> >
> What?
> 
> You mean you've only seen 30 minutes of a 5 hour film?
> 
> Yet you not only pontificate about it but seek to PREVENT people 
> from seeing it (oh, of course, you'll say that you just want to 
> prevent them from seeing it BEFORE the election)?

Actually, I'd be happier if they ran it as is, as
scheduled, and had a detailed rebuttal afterward.

> By the way you were talking about it, I was sure that you
> had seen the entire thing.

No, you were well aware that enough information
about it from those who *have* seen it--including
transcripts of dialogue--have been made public 
to know that it's seriously misrepresentational.

> Well, at least you're an equal-opportunity fascist: you're for 
> violating freedom for yourself as well as for others.

No, I'm against violating anybody's freedoms.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes

[feste37]

And don't forget "Miracle Month," in April 1986, when dome numbers 
averaged 2,100 in the morning and 2,300 in the evening, and that was 
without the boost of out-of-towners on a course. That was the best 
superradiance achievement ever for this community. It was helped by the fact 
that local businesses chipped in and offered modest prizes for perfect 
attendance. It's amazing what people will do for some free ice cream. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/10/06 3:35 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >> 
> >> > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> on 9/10/06 3:02 PM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote:
>  >>> 
> >> > Projects, ofcourse. They where for the purification of those
> >> > involved.
> >> > But this is the first time an objective was not met 
numberwise,
> >> > no ?
>  >>> 
> >>> >> No. there have only been a few times during the past decades when 
the
> >>> >> desired dome numbers have been achieved.
> >> > 
> >> > Not thinking of Fairfield spesifically. In times of trouble, when
> >> > Maharishi has rallied to achive certain numbers on courses here and
> >> > there, historically, this is the first time it did not happen, no ?
> > 
> To my knowledge, the desired attendance totals have seldom been 
reached,
> although in some cases they have been, most notably the Taste of Utopia
> course, where 7,000 was the goal and over 8,000 were flying together on 
some
> days. That was very profound.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[gerbal88]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
> > >
> > > From a friend:
> > > 
> > > > .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a 
> plan 
> > to pay
> > > > people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility 
> America
> > > > Course,starting Sept 12th,
> > > >   and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but 
hasn't 
> > been able  to
> > > > afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis course for  
> > free...contact
> > > > the TM center for more info on that..there is a meeting  at 
> 1pm 
> > Sundayin the
> > > > Drier building for those ready to start  immediately..tell 
> your 
> > friends...love
> > > > and light to all of you
> > 
> > Hi, Rick. This is either satire or a scam. Surely the 
Shrivastavas 
> > can see through the nonsense of Mahesh's butt bouncing. They 
> aren't 
> > going to part with any money. While the "Last Message" thing is 
> > silly, it's more truthful than the Shrivastavas parting with 
money.
> >
> 
> It's a scam.
> 
> However, the following is real: anyone interested in being flown 
for 
> FREE to Fairfield from anywhere in the continental U.S.A. and being 
> paid not $500 but $1,500 a month to participate in the 
Invincibility 
> for America course AND get free room and board, do the following:
> 
> Write in pencil in 25 words or less why you love TM on the back of 
a 
> $50.00 bill and mail it to:
> 
> Shemp Mcgurk
> Quick-Getaway-Motel
> Tijuana, Mexico


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[gerbal88]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > 
> > > From a friend "in the know":
> > >
> > > It's true. As of today, Sept 10th, 637 have signed up in the 
> > > Drier Bldg. for the free siddhi's courses to start soon. There 
> > > are several courses planned between now & Nov. There may be 
> > > courses in Canada as well.
> > 
> > Would this be the same friend who told about the promised 
> > $2000/month salaries to all the recertified govs?  And 
> > maybe he's a relative of the same friend who also said 
> > Vedic City would include a world-famous health center. 
> > And maybe they're cousins to the same friend who said 
> > the Sidhis would teach you how to fly.
> > 
> > Anyone still believing this crapola has some serious 
> > growing up to do.
> 
> Well, there IS a remote chance that Maharishi has
> finally realized that at this point the only way 
> he can get people interested in learning the siddhis
> is to give the course away, and the only way he can
> get them interested in doing them in a group is to
> pay them to do so.
> 
> 
> > Sal

Can you spell Mothers and Fathers Indian Association? The 
Shrivastavas would never part with a rupee that wasn't in their best 
interests and butt bouncing is stupid, they can see that. No percent 
of anything changes much or there wouldn't have been a murder at MUM! 
If MUM can't prevent 1 murder, then no amount of Butt Bouncing is 
going to do anything other than cause sore Butts ... well, I'm 
slightly wrong there because the foam industry is going to benefit 
and I am sure the Shrivastavas have invested in just the kind that 
only Maheshites buy.

as someone in this thread said:

> > Anyone still believing this crapola has some serious 
> > growing up to do.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
> >
> > From a friend:
> > 
> > > .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a 
plan 
> to pay
> > > people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility 
America
> > > Course,starting Sept 12th,
> > >   and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but hasn't 
> been able  to
> > > afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis course for  
> free...contact
> > > the TM center for more info on that..there is a meeting  at 
1pm 
> Sundayin the
> > > Drier building for those ready to start  immediately..tell 
your 
> friends...love
> > > and light to all of you
> 
> Hi, Rick. This is either satire or a scam. Surely the Shrivastavas 
> can see through the nonsense of Mahesh's butt bouncing. They 
aren't 
> going to part with any money. While the "Last Message" thing is 
> silly, it's more truthful than the Shrivastavas parting with money.
>

It's a scam.

However, the following is real: anyone interested in being flown for 
FREE to Fairfield from anywhere in the continental U.S.A. and being 
paid not $500 but $1,500 a month to participate in the Invincibility 
for America course AND get free room and board, do the following:

Write in pencil in 25 words or less why you love TM on the back of a 
$50.00 bill and mail it to:

Shemp Mcgurk
Quick-Getaway-Motel
Tijuana, Mexico







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/10/06 2:03 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:>
> > 
> >> > I don't think he would have had to go back 40 years, just 30 
years.
> >> > 
> >> > That's when the decline in initiations happened, circa 1976.  
That's
> >> > when he started being dishonest with the public in a big way 
(i.e.
> >> > flying).
> > 
> The screwiness started very early on; maybe from the very 
beginning. Each of
> us just woke up to it at different times. Or you could say, each 
of us has a
> different tolerance for it.
>


I kind of got into the TMO with the implicit understanding that 
organisations like this attract nutcases and fringe elements and 
that was just par for the course.

However, because of MMY's emphasis on scientific research, no belief 
involved and all that, I figured TM and the TMO were the exception. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  
wrote:
> > >
> > > on 9/10/06 12:55 PM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote:
> > > 
> > > >  
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> > > >  If Maharishi really wants to get big
> > > > numbers in
> > > >> > the domes, tell him to hop in his time machine, go back 
> about 
> > 40
> > > > years, and
> > > >> > do it again with honesty, integrity, sensibility, and 
plenty 
> > of
> > > > feedback
> > > >> > from others who embody those qualities.
> > > > 
> > > > Then what would happen ? He would have a boat full of 
weirdos 
> > onboard.
> > > > And the 1% wold not work. Hardly the effect the americans 
needs 
> > at
> > > > this point when universal karma is hitting them bigtime.
> > > > 
> > > He ended up with a boat full of weirdoes. I¹m suggesting that 
if 
> > honesty,
> > > integrity, and sensibility had been the guiding principles, he 
> > would have
> > > ended up with those sorts of people instead, and the movement 
> > would have
> > > ended up very different than it is today. But it¹s easy to 
play 
> > what if.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > I don't think he would have had to go back 40 years, just 30 
years.
> > 
> > That's when the decline in initiations happened, circa 1976.  
> That's 
> > when he started being dishonest with the public in a big way 
(i.e. 
> > flying).
> 
> When the Sidhis came out at that time "not one more initiation is 
> necessary."



You are obviously quoting MMY here, Nablus.

Can't you think for yourself instead of being the obvious cult 
member that you are?


> But that escaped you, didn't it. Why are you so obsessed 
> with the Movement ?


I'm obsessed with the Movement because it held the best hope for the 
world.  And it got -- unnecessarily -- fucked up.

I believe in discussing the causes and effects of what fucked it up.

Don't you?



> Because you are to attached to it, to your own 
> career and ambition probably. Forgive me if I'm wrong.



You're forgiven.



>  
> The Movement belongs to those who moove. If your intention is to 
not 
> moove, forget the Movement.
>






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[FairfieldLife] Benjaim Creme on worlds affairs

[nablus108]

Questions & Answers

Q. What kind of future do you see for America within the next couple 
of decades?
A. If enough people accept quickly the changes that Maitreya will be 
calling for, we can transform life in America and the rest of the 
world very soon. Once the idea of sharing, and justice engages the 
imagination, when people see the simple common sense of sharing, 
creating justice and therefore peace as the only way to create peace 
and an end of terrorism and war, then millions will join the ranks 
around Maitreya. 
You have no idea how eloquent Maitreya is, how simple and 
knowledgeable, with a mind which is razor sharp and can illumine 
every problem. His love and wisdom are endless, the love of God and 
the wisdom of all the ages. His ability to enter into the hearts of 
all and release His energy of love is the sword which He wields to 
change the world. The Sword of Cleavage is the energy of Love. 
As people respond to this energy the world will be divided – those 
who are clamouring for change along the lines Maitreya is advocating, 
and those who are fearful and looking to the past, who see Him as the 
Antichrist, are fearful and do not know what to do. They will stand 
aside and watch the events, and so lose the opportunity presented, 
for the first time in history, to take part in the transformation of 
the world. It is up to each individual, from where he or she stands, 
to assert their divinity. 
Maitreya is speaking about sharing, justice, freedom and about right 
relationship. They are all divine principles. Freedom, justice and 
right relationship are at the basis of life and make for correct 
relationship between peoples and between nation and nation. 
It is competition that leads to war and prevents right human 
relationship from evolving. The creation of correct human 
relationship is the next step forward in our evolution. When you have 
that you have the beginning of true divine life. The first step into 
sharing, says Maitreya, is the first step into your divinity. What 
could be simpler or truer?

Q. Is a third world war imminent — what with the conflict in the 
Middle East? 
A. No, it is not. If we were in a situation which was so `hot' – it 
is very `hot' at present – that World War Three was inevitable, 
Maitreya would intervene. 
It is better that He does not have to intervene because it would 
infringe human free will. But if it were necessary, He would 
intervene. In that case, He would be restricted in what He can give 
to humanity for quite some time, until our karma allowed Him to give 
what He can give. If He used that karmic gift, as it were, to prevent 
a third world war, it would hinder Him from doing things that He 
otherwise would do. 
The Masters, with a broader vision, know that eventually things will 
clarify and peace will be established. They know, as Maitreya says, 
that the end is known from the beginning. Have no fear. That does not 
mean sit still and do nothing. That is the point. 
You have to be inspired to act. He says: "Nothing happens by itself. 
Man must act and implement his will." People, full of idealism, think 
that if you can envisage something, it already exists; that if you 
know that God is perfect, then the world is perfect. You cannot shut 
your eyes to all the ills in the world. It is foolish. It is not 
adult. Be adult and face the ills of the world and do something about 
them. You have to act to implement your will. If you want peace, 
justice, sharing and right relationship, you have to do it. Make it 
known that you want it. Elect the right people to get it. Act. Become 
active. Otherwise, you live in the clouds. 
This is a time like none other in history. It will not be repeated. 
The Hierarchy of Masters is returning to the world for the first time 
in 98,000 years. You have the opportunity to work for Them, to make 
easier the work of Maitreya, to light the way, to make known to the 
world that He is here. Don't wait till Maitreya comes out in the 
open. Tell everybody who will listen that He is here, what His plans 
are, what His priorities are – right relationship, sharing, justice, 
peace – these are the priorities. Looking after the planet is a 
number one priority. You have to make these your own, not just listen 
to someone like me. 
We all have to become involved and to tell the world what is 
happening in the world, that this is the most amazing time, there has 
never been a time in the history of the world like this time. To be 
alive at this time is an extraordinary blessing.
With all the pain and the suffering in the world the opportunity for 
humanity is immense.

Q. Who won the election in Mexico? 
A. Strangely enough, it was an almost completely free and fair 
election, unlike the last two elections in the United States – the 
last one being the most corrupt, I think, that has ever taken place 
in a modern state.
You must make sure that you do not have another election like that. 
Do not stand for it. The voting ma

[FairfieldLife] "Path to 9/11" clips now available (was: Re: Judy, I am impressed!)

[gerbal88]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think we should all be impressed by the fact that Judy 
Stein 
> has, 
> > > > before any of us and before any of the general public at 
> large, 
> > > > been able to see a sneak preview of "Path to 9/11".
> > > 
> > > Shemp, go take your medication, please.
> > 
> > Actually, as of this moment, I've probably seen more
> > of the film than anyone else on this forum and much
> > of the general public, about 30 minutes' worth.
> > 
> > Six five-minute clips from the film are up at 
> > RedState.org (a right wingnut site):
> > 
> > http://www.redstate.com/911clips
> > 
> > I just watched them all.  The site says they're
> > from the *unedited* version--"The Video Democrats
> > DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE."  They include the scene
> > where Sandy Berger won't agree to taking down
> > bin Laden, and the one in which Madeleine Albright
> > (whose name they misspell!) defends her warning
> > to the Pakistanis about the missiles being fired
> > over their airspace at Sudan.
> > 
> > Both scenes, according to the principals, are
> > complete fabrications.
> > 
> > The audio, unfortunately, is out of synch with the
> > video in all the clips, which makes it a little hard
> > to follow what's going on.
> > 
> > But what they're intended to convey couldn't be
> > clearer.
> >
> 
> 
> What?
> 
> You mean you've only seen 30 minutes of a 5 hour film?
> 
> Yet you not only pontificate about it but seek to PREVENT people 
> from seeing it (oh, of course, you'll say that you just want to 
> prevent them from seeing it BEFORE the election)?
> 
> By the way you were talking about it, I was sure that you had seen 
> the entire thing.
> 
> Well, at least you're an equal-opportunity fascist: you're for 
> violating freedom for yourself as well as for others.


Oh, come now, Shemp: the TM Nazi isn't an equal-opportunity fascist, 
just an ordinary one trying to put the fun in fundamentalism. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >> > PS I like your clever slogan. (Movement belongs to those who 
move.)
> > > Did YOU make that up?
> > 
> > It's MMY's slogan.
> 
> Uh, yeah Judy. I know. Boy, you're a sharp tack.
>

When one doesn't have a sense of humour themselves, it's hard to get 
irony...or satire...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > From a friend "in the know":
> >
> > It's true. As of today, Sept 10th, 637 have signed up in the 
> > Drier Bldg. for the free siddhi's courses to start soon. There 
> > are several courses planned between now & Nov. There may be 
> > courses in Canada as well.
> 
> Would this be the same friend who told about the promised 
> $2000/month salaries to all the recertified govs?  And 
> maybe he's a relative of the same friend who also said 
> Vedic City would include a world-famous health center. 
> And maybe they're cousins to the same friend who said 
> the Sidhis would teach you how to fly.
> 
> Anyone still believing this crapola has some serious 
> growing up to do.

Well, there IS a remote chance that Maharishi has
finally realized that at this point the only way 
he can get people interested in learning the siddhis
is to give the course away, and the only way he can
get them interested in doing them in a group is to
pay them to do so.


> Sal
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[gerbal88]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From a friend:
> 
> > .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan 
to pay
> > people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility America
> > Course,starting Sept 12th,
> >   and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but hasn't 
been able  to
> > afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis course for  
free...contact
> > the TM center for more info on that..there is a meeting  at 1pm 
Sundayin the
> > Drier building for those ready to start  immediately..tell your 
friends...love
> > and light to all of you

Hi, Rick. This is either satire or a scam. Surely the Shrivastavas 
can see through the nonsense of Mahesh's butt bouncing. They aren't 
going to part with any money. While the "Last Message" thing is 
silly, it's more truthful than the Shrivastavas parting with money.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do Afghanistan women take such great photos?

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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>
> Close, but that other photo is a classic. Did you ever
> see the follow-up National Geographic did with her 20
> years later? Her eyes were just as intense.

Yes.  Indeed, they did a special documentary of how they tracked her 
down and what had happened to her over the past decade or so.

Yes, her eyes were just as intense but I found that she aged much 
faster than I expected (not surprising given the history of civil 
war etc. that she had to endure).



> 
> --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Remember that famous National Geographic photo of
> > the Afghanistan
> > teenager staring into the camera from about 20 years
> > ago?
> > 
> > Well, here's another from Afghanistan I came across
> > that's just as
> > beguiling:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
> http://mail.yahoo.com
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[FairfieldLife] "Path to 9/11" clips now available (was: Re: Judy, I am impressed!)

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I think we should all be impressed by the fact that Judy Stein 
has, 
> > > before any of us and before any of the general public at 
large, 
> > > been able to see a sneak preview of "Path to 9/11".
> > 
> > Shemp, go take your medication, please.
> 
> Actually, as of this moment, I've probably seen more
> of the film than anyone else on this forum and much
> of the general public, about 30 minutes' worth.
> 
> Six five-minute clips from the film are up at 
> RedState.org (a right wingnut site):
> 
> http://www.redstate.com/911clips
> 
> I just watched them all.  The site says they're
> from the *unedited* version--"The Video Democrats
> DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE."  They include the scene
> where Sandy Berger won't agree to taking down
> bin Laden, and the one in which Madeleine Albright
> (whose name they misspell!) defends her warning
> to the Pakistanis about the missiles being fired
> over their airspace at Sudan.
> 
> Both scenes, according to the principals, are
> complete fabrications.
> 
> The audio, unfortunately, is out of synch with the
> video in all the clips, which makes it a little hard
> to follow what's going on.
> 
> But what they're intended to convey couldn't be
> clearer.
>


What?

You mean you've only seen 30 minutes of a 5 hour film?

Yet you not only pontificate about it but seek to PREVENT people 
from seeing it (oh, of course, you'll say that you just want to 
prevent them from seeing it BEFORE the election)?

By the way you were talking about it, I was sure that you had seen 
the entire thing.

Well, at least you're an equal-opportunity fascist: you're for 
violating freedom for yourself as well as for others.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes





on 9/10/06 3:35 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
> , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> on 9/10/06 3:02 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 
> Projects, ofcourse. They where for the purification of those 
> involved.
> But this is the first time an objective was not met numberwise, 
> no ?
>>> 
>> No. there have only been a few times during the past decades when the
>> desired dome numbers have been achieved.
> 
> Not thinking of Fairfield spesifically. In times of trouble, when 
> Maharishi has rallied to achive certain numbers on courses here and 
> there, historically, this is the first time it did not happen, no ?

To my knowledge, the desired attendance totals have seldom been reached, although in some cases they have been, most notably the Taste of Utopia course, where 7,000 was the goal and over 8,000 were flying together on some days. That was very profound.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[Sal Sunshine]

On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

> From a friend “in the know”:
>
> It’s true. As of today, Sept 10th, 637 have signed up in the Drier 
> Bldg. for the free siddhi's courses to start soon. There are several 
> courses planned between now & Nov. There may be courses in Canada as 
> well.

Would this be the same friend who told about the promised $2000/month 
salaries to all the recertified govs?  And maybe he's a relative of the 
same friend who also said Vedic City would include a world-famous 
health center. And maybe they're cousins to the same friend who said 
the Sidhis would teach you how to fly.

Anyone still believing this crapola has some serious growing up to do.

Sal



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..





on 9/10/06 3:38 PM, Richard Mertz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>

I'm in San Diego, but I could get up there in time.  How do I sign up
for this?

Call the TM center here: (641) 472-1174

Tell ‘em Rick sent you.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[nablus108]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , Sal Sunshine 

> wrote:
> >
> > On Sep 10, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > 
> > > From a friend:
> > >
> > > .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan 
to
> pay 
> > >  people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility 
America
> > >  Course,starting Sept 12th,
> > >and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but hasn't 
been
> > > able  to afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis 
course for
> > >  free...contact the TM center for more info on that..there is a
> > > meeting  at 1pm Sundayin the Drier building for those ready to 
start
> > >  immediately..tell your friends...love and light to all of you
> > 
> > Hahahahahahahaha.
> > 
> > Rick if your friend  still believes any of this, he needs to 
seriously
> > get real.
> > 
> > Sal
> >> >
> From a friend ³in the know²:
> 
> It¹s true. As of today, Sept 10th, 637 have signed up in the Drier 
Bldg. for
> the free siddhi's courses to start soon. There are several courses 
planned
> between now & Nov. There may be courses in Canada as well.

Wonderful ! 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[Richard Mertz]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , Sal Sunshine 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sep 10, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > 
> > > From a friend:
> > >
> > > .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan to
> pay 
> > >  people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility America
> > >  Course,starting Sept 12th,
> > >and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but hasn't been
> > > able  to afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis
course for
> > >  free...contact the TM center for more info on that..there is a
> > > meeting  at 1pm Sundayin the Drier building for those ready to start
> > >  immediately..tell your friends...love and light to all of you
> > 
> > Hahahahahahahaha.
> > 
> > Rick if your friend  still believes any of this, he needs to seriously
> > get real.
> > 
> > Sal
> >> >
> From a friend ³in the know²:
> 
> It¹s true. As of today, Sept 10th, 637 have signed up in the Drier
Bldg. for
> the free siddhi's courses to start soon. There are several courses
planned
> between now & Nov. There may be courses in Canada as well.
>

I'm in San Diego, but I could get up there in time.  How do I sign up
for this?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[Sal Sunshine]

On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:13 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
>>
>>> From a friend:
>>>
>>> .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan to
> pay
>>>  people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility America
>>>  Course,starting Sept 12th,
>>>and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but hasn't been
>>> able  to afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis course for
>>>  free...contact the TM center for more info on that..there is a
>>> meeting  at 1pm Sundayin the Drier building for those ready to start
>>>  immediately..tell your friends...love and light to all of you
>>
>> Hahahahahahahaha.
>>
>> Rick if your friend  still believes any of this, he needs to seriously
>> get real.
>>
>> Sal
>>
>
> Unless someone's donating it.

Then it wouldn't be free.

Sal



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[FairfieldLife] "Path to 9/11" clips now available (was: Re: Judy, I am impressed!)

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I think we should all be impressed by the fact that Judy Stein has, 
> > before any of us and before any of the general public at large, 
> > been able to see a sneak preview of "Path to 9/11".
> 
> Shemp, go take your medication, please.

Actually, as of this moment, I've probably seen more
of the film than anyone else on this forum and much
of the general public, about 30 minutes' worth.

Six five-minute clips from the film are up at 
RedState.org (a right wingnut site):

http://www.redstate.com/911clips

I just watched them all.  The site says they're
from the *unedited* version--"The Video Democrats
DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE."  They include the scene
where Sandy Berger won't agree to taking down
bin Laden, and the one in which Madeleine Albright
(whose name they misspell!) defends her warning
to the Pakistanis about the missiles being fired
over their airspace at Sudan.

Both scenes, according to the principals, are
complete fabrications.

The audio, unfortunately, is out of synch with the
video in all the clips, which makes it a little hard
to follow what's going on.

But what they're intended to convey couldn't be
clearer.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes

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> on 9/10/06 3:02 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> >> > Projects, ofcourse. They where for the purification of those 
involved.
> >> > But this is the first time an objective was not met numberwise, 
no ?
> > 
> No. there have only been a few times during the past decades when the
> desired dome numbers have been achieved.

Not thinking of Fairfield spesifically. In times of trouble, when 
Maharishi has rallied to achive certain numbers on courses here and 
there, historically, this is the first time it did not happen, no ?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
> >
> > From a friend:
> > 
> > > I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan to
> > > pay people $500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility 
> > > America Course,starting Sept 12th, and also, if you know anyone 
who 
> > > wants the sidhis but hasn't been able  to afford them, he is also 
> > > going to offer the sidhis course for  free...contact the TM 
center 
> > > for more info on that..there is a meeting  at 1pm Sundayin the
> > > Drier building for those ready to start  immediately..tell your 
> > > friends...love and light to all of you
> 
> He's gotta be seeing something bad coming down the pike, no?

Yes.

http://yogavisionaries.com






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Sep 10, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > From a friend:
> >
> > .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan to
pay 
> >  people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility America 
> >  Course,starting Sept 12th,  
> >    and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but hasn't been 
> > able  to afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis course for 
> >  free...contact the TM center for more info on that..there is a 
> > meeting  at 1pm Sundayin the Drier building for those ready to start 
> >  immediately..tell your friends...love and light to all of you
> 
> Hahahahahahahaha.
> 
> Rick if your friend  still believes any of this, he needs to seriously 
> get real.
> 
> Sal
>
From a friend “in the know”:

It’s true. As of today, Sept 10th, 637 have signed up in the Drier Bldg. for the free siddhi's courses to start soon. There are several courses planned between now & Nov. There may be courses in Canada as well.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: MDIXONS dumbass war

[authfriend]

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> In a message dated 9/10/06 3:06:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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> So who  was the "new director" you were referring to?
> 
> Porter Goss replaced Tenet as I recall and was supposed to clean 
house but  
> gave up and now you have Hayden. Same old CIA but new directors that 
replaced  
> Tenet.

Nonono.  You cited the "new director" has having been
the one who used the term "slam-dunk" with reference
to WMD in Iraq.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Back to the Domes





on 9/10/06 3:02 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Projects, ofcourse. They where for the purification of those involved.
> But this is the first time an objective was not met numberwise, no ?

No. there have only been a few times during the past decades when the desired dome numbers have been achieved.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>  
> In a message dated 9/10/06 2:29:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
>  
> From a  friend:
> 
> 
> .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan to 
pay  
> people$500 a month to be in the dome  for the Invincibility 
America  
> Course,starting Sept 12th,  
> and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but  hasn't been 
able  to 
> afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis  course for  
free...contact 
> the TM center for more info on that..there  is a meeting  at 1pm 
Sundayin the 
> Drier building for those ready to  start  
immediately.immediately..tell 
> your friends...love and light to 
> 
> Didn't we just go through something like this a while back? Quit 
your jobs  
> come back and get recertified and teach full time and I'll pay you  
$2,000.00 a 
> month.

Yebbut...free TM-Sidhis?  Can't take 'em back or
charge for 'em once they've been taught.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free sidhis plus $500 salary for dome attendance..

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> On Sep 10, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > From a friend:
> >
> > .,  I want everyone to know that last night  M announced a plan to
pay 
> >  people$500 a month to be in the dome for the Invincibility America 
> >  Course,starting Sept 12th,  
> >and also, if you know anyone who wants the sidhis but hasn't been 
> > able  to afford them, he is also going to offer the sidhis course for 
> >  free...contact the TM center for more info on that..there is a 
> > meeting  at 1pm Sundayin the Drier building for those ready to start 
> >  immediately..tell your friends...love and light to all of you
> 
> Hahahahahahahaha.
> 
> Rick if your friend  still believes any of this, he needs to seriously 
> get real.
> 
> Sal
>

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