[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-02-24 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: snip As near as I can determine, the researchers had no affiliation with the TMO, but that is not always transparent, which is highly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton and Obama

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive been diddled if I believe the information. but I said that I had not checked it and asked for input. Other responders similarly attacked me instead of giving solid responses. It's part of the rules of

[FairfieldLife] Do you gaze at yer bold head...

2008-02-24 Thread cardemaister
... and wish you had hair?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar3LJnDErX8feature=related

No reverse gear needed (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington)

2008-02-24 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
I'm not cynical about the siddhis. I'm just being honest about my lack of experience with them. As I said, I may very well have been doing them wrong. Or maybe my mind wasn't settled enough or my transcendence clear enough to produce the predicted result. Or maybe it's a different strokes for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Behalf Of amarnath You are not your experiences is the ultimate Truth that the greatest Mahatmas and greatest teachings tell us. This is contrary to what MMY was teaching us. So, why should I have envy for

[FairfieldLife] Re: The upside of not being a Recert - Serenity or Dali

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: Now I go for cool T-shirts. My favorite for getting to know interesting women is this one: http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/stylinonline_1989_155234370 You know you've found a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The upside of not being a Recert - Serenity or Dali

2008-02-24 Thread george_deforest
TurquoiseB wrote: One of my favorite rooms in the museum contains a big red sofa, a weird fireplace, and a couple of not-terribly-interesting paintings on the wall: http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2128438300088165639TbIUAs Climb a staircase on the other side of the room and look

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread george_deforest
Rick Archer wrote: BTW, Steve. Your greatest bit of acting was in All of Me when the bowl containing Lily Tomlin's soul fell out the window, and hit you on the street below, and her soul and yours began contending for control of your body. Laughed my guts out. Thanks for that. I wish you

[FairfieldLife] Surf's Up

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
On Feb 21, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: Life -- like a metaphor for surfing. Belatedly, I too wanted to thank Marek for this, and to nominate him as the FFL winner in the Not Quite What I Was Planning six-word desc- riptions of one's life contest. Deep bow. It couldn't have come

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 3:57 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington IT DOESN'T DEPEND ON THE TEACHER, IMO. I think it depends on both the teacher

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Behalf Of TurquoiseB IT DOESN'T DEPEND ON THE TEACHER, IMO. I think it depends on both the teacher and the student. To put it in simple terms, a C student will get more from a A teacher than a B teacher. An A

RE: No reverse gear needed (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington)

2008-02-24 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hagen J. Holtz Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 3:56 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: No reverse gear needed (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington) I’m not cynical about the siddhis. I’m just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha caught on video flying

2008-02-24 Thread Peter
--- ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He/she looks like super man. Tilts forward, rockets aa!!! snort I mis-read you post as saying tits forward. Well, that too if said yogi is a yogini!

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of george_deforest Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:16 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington Rick Archer wrote: BTW, Steve. Your greatest bit of acting was in All

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread Peter
In my experience: Bliss is stupid. Bliss is dumb. As the bondage goes in this TM path there is tremendous bliss. Overwhelming bliss that grows and grows and grows...and grows. Then the siddhis start, not flying or turning invisible, but that capacity to know and fully comprehend each point of

Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington)

2008-02-24 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
I have off and on meditated my 20 minutes twice a day for many years. I quit the siddhis course before I was done way back in the 70s and walked away. I am sorry to say but my impression was WTF? This is bogus! Listen carefully to what I tell you know, it may be of great importance for you and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-02-24 Thread Vaj
On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:03 AM, sparaig wrote: Vaj has his own agenda concerning TM research. The book he quotes is by a well- respected neuroscientist who happens to be a devout practitioner of Buddhist meditation and is often identified as A longtime friend of the Dalai Lama, some of his

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington In my experience: Bliss is stupid. Bliss is dumb. As the bondage goes in this

RE: Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington)

2008-02-24 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hagen J. Holtz Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:13 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington) Importance: High I went through all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my experience: Bliss is stupid. Bliss is dumb. I would agree only in the sense that IMO bliss is a feedback mechanism, and thus just a dumb instrument of measurement. To me, bliss is just feedback from the universe that

YAWG - Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin)

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
I do not know, who taught the siddhis to you. I heard that Chandrakant and Rekha Jani, a couple from India, was acting a instructors for some while around Fairfield. When they taught two of my disciples at Gandhinagar how to use the flying sutra... . . . Chandrakant put his hand on my

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Deepak Hullabalu

2008-02-24 Thread lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is worth noting the other followers of Maharishi have been faced with similar choices and some have left and some have stayed. Doug Henning comes to mind as one that stayed and gave up his show biz life. By the way I love Doug Henning, one of the finest human

[FairfieldLife] Greek Philosophy - a few principles

2008-02-24 Thread do.rflex
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaGqY2PWFPA

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-02-24 Thread Vaj
On Feb 24, 2008, at 3:46 AM, cardemaister wrote: I think Vaj's biggest sin is that he keeps repeating the misunderstanding that te samaadhaav upasargaa vyutthaane siddhayaH (III 37 or 38) is a warning against practising the saMyama-techniques of the vibhuuti-paada of yoga-suutra. :-) It's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Dude, thanks for sharing your nice experiences. I always enjoy hearing them. I think most here are pretty well indoctrinated to not confuse the path with the goal, and to not get caught up with the nice experiences along the way. But, it's always nice to hear them anyway, and share some of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Greek Philosophy - a few principles

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaGqY2PWFPA Hilarious. Here's the full series: Phistophicles -- Lesser Known Greek Philosopher Introduction and Book One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWLG9feziRUNR=1 Book Two:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread lurkernomore20002000
nablusoss1008 wrote: Very nice, thanks for posting this. Your patience has payed off. Unfortunately it is wasted on this group of cynics who, like Rick Archer said, hardly had any experiences on the sutras. Could there be a meaner person than Nablus? I don't think so. And of course it is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread Vaj
On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:40 AM, Rick Archer wrote: I agree with Amarnath that many people in the movement seem very egotistical. Back on my 6-month course, most of the “great experience” guys had huge egos, and were always competing with each other in terms of whose experience was

[FairfieldLife] Bliss

2008-02-24 Thread Kirk
I am a Sidha and MIU grad. So three years in the domes and another year as a TMer in the other meditation areas. My experience of bliss is that it is shallow, though depending upon how it juxtaposes with everything else. I have experienced huge amounts of bliss. And yet, without the ability to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The upside of not being a Recert

2008-02-24 Thread itsstevemartin
Dude, You are too funny, My wife and I laughed hysterically over your post, ( I will probably be condemned to meditations full of nothing but thoughts merely by being a member of and reading such posts.)What a release. Egads you must feel better. Steve --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread Vaj
On Feb 23, 2008, at 7:07 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice, thanks for posting this. Your patience has payed off. Unfortunately it is wasted on this group of cynics who, like Rick Archer said, hardly had any

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
If you can live without bliss, without having been denying it beforehand, then you are on a real high level of realization. But then I do not understand, why all that previous debasing, as you seem to do would be needed. What you express is somehow not rhyming. In my experience: Bliss is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-02-24 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj has his own agenda concerning TM research. Yes. He has his brand of Buddhism to sell. In the meanwhile, he is hoping to prove that honey is salty to people who have stuck their fingers in a honeypot and sucked them. Uns.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread Kirk
I liked reading the experiences but sometimes hearing the additional judgementalisms of TMers is rather insipid and shallow. Like saying - all the flavors of awareness - and so on. That sort of copy paste pseudointellectualism isn't well founded in anything. It behooves a seeker to not admit to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Vaj has his own agenda concerning TM research. Yes. He has his brand of Buddhism to sell. In the meanwhile, he is hoping to prove that honey is salty

[FairfieldLife] John from Cinncinnati's haiku on the nature of Bliss

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
Paddle out. Notice a cool wave. Catch wave. Bliss. Paddle out.

YAWG - Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin)

2008-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know, who taught the siddhis to you. I heard that Chandrakant and Rekha Jani, a couple from India, was acting a instructors for some while around Fairfield. When they taught two of my disciples at

Re: Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington)

2008-02-24 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
I went through all the breathing and noisemaking stages too, although eventually, at least at MIU, this was suppressed, which I think spoiled the spontaneity of what was going on. Later on, and that was the pity due to influence of frustrated and frustrating people, that often people

Re: No reverse gear needed (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington)

2008-02-24 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 24, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Rick Archer wrote: I have to confess that I also had to brawl around with pretension against reality. I’m not sure what you mean here Hagen, due to English not being your native language. Please restate the point if you don’t mind. I don't know what he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-02-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 24, 2008, at 3:46 AM, cardemaister wrote: I think Vaj's biggest sin is that he keeps repeating the misunderstanding that te samaadhaav upasargaa vyutthaane siddhayaH (III 37 or 38) is a warning against practising

Re: YAWG - Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin)

2008-02-24 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
What a nice cynical intonation of yours. But I hope it will not let us come to the point, where we loose the string for discussion of contents rather than than of formalisms. I have been using these terms because I have been indirectly describing Chandrakant's attitude to the whole matter as a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton and Obama

2008-02-24 Thread authfriend
Wow. Yet another strange fantasy from Barry. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's part of the rules of natural law, Angela. If anything negative is *ever* said about Hillary Clinton, it's part of an orches- trated hit against her by her enemies.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-02-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:03 AM, sparaig wrote: Vaj has his own agenda concerning TM research. The book he quotes is by a well- respected neuroscientist who happens to be a devout practitioner of Buddhist meditation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: snip Tell me y'all, who has found the siddhi's experiences to be superior to that of 2 times 20 meditation of your mantra? What is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-02-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor uns_tressor@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Vaj has his own agenda concerning TM research. Yes. He has his brand of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: snip Tell me y'all, who has found the siddhi's experiences to be superior to that of 2 times 20 meditation of your mantra? What is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton and Obama

2008-02-24 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 24, 2008, at 3:02 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: It's part of the rules of natural law, Angela. If anything negative is *ever* said about Hillary Clinton, it's part of an orches- trated hit against her by her enemies. *She* is always blameless, and has *never* done any- thing to deserve the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss

2008-02-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
Very thoughtful process here Kirk. I'm digging your introspective writing to clarify how you feel about your relationship with spirituality and the experiences you have from practices. Reading it sends me on my own internal path to answer some of these questions for myself. That is what I

YAWG - Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin)

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a nice cynical intonation of yours. But I hope it will not let us come to the point, where we loose the string for discussion of contents rather than than of formalisms. For the record, I do not aspire to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my experience: Bliss is stupid. Bliss is dumb. As the bondage goes in this TM path there is tremendous bliss. Overwhelming bliss that grows and grows and grows...and grows. Then the siddhis start, not flying or turning

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor uns_tressor@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Vaj

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: snip Those I know personally who do the full program do not show

YAWG - Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin)

2008-02-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
I jumped upon it because you clearly used the words my disciples and my followers to describe some people and their relationship to you. In the world I live in, that's a little odd. Full leather head masks and ball gags... ZED Bring out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Yes. He has his brand of Buddhism to sell. In the meanwhile, he is hoping to

[FairfieldLife] Leo had something to say . . .

2008-02-24 Thread do.rflex
I know that most men, including those who are at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they had delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they had

YAWG - Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin)

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I jumped upon it because you clearly used the words my disciples and my followers to describe some people and their relationship to you. In the world I live in, that's a little odd. Full leather head

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-02-24 Thread Vaj
On Feb 24, 2008, at 10:05 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 24, 2008, at 3:46 AM, cardemaister wrote: I think Vaj's biggest sin is that he keeps repeating the misunderstanding that te samaadhaav upasargaa vyutthaane siddhayaH

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bliss

2008-02-24 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:30 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Very thoughtful process here Kirk. I'm digging your introspective writing to clarify how you feel about your relationship with spirituality and the experiences you have from practices. Reading it sends me on my own internal path to answer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nablusoss1008 wrote: Very nice, thanks for posting this. Your patience has payed off. Unfortunately it is wasted on this group of cynics who, like Rick Archer said, hardly had any experiences on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
I know everything is linked when on a warm day and I lay down on the grass and smell the warm earth. Wow, that phrase had such a wonderful effect on me Ruth, thanks. Here is my contribution back in the category of the natural IS the divine. My all time favorite poem: A Blessing By James

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Peter writes snipped: Then bliss is like a dead dog in the road! Bliss is the darshan of Brahman, but not Brahman. TomT: Yes but if the indicator is there then attention and appreciation of what is going on in the moment surely leads to the understanding of Brahman. Appreciation is the tool that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton and Obama

2008-02-24 Thread Angela Mailander
I suspect you're right, Turq. Assumptions are made so easily, but too often your assumptions end up diddling you. It happens anytime you can't transcend deeply enough to distinguish between the assumption and the giver of the assumption. I've twice been not entirely straight with stuff I've

[FairfieldLife] Re: Leo had something to say . . .

2008-02-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
One who (thinks he) knows not, knows; one who (thinks he) knows, knows not. Salutations to Shri Guru,(God) whose thinking has no thoughts (but those of the Absolute). http://www.themetaarts.com/archives/200301/devi.html Wind flag, mind moves, The same understanding. When the mouth opens

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I have noticed that the people here whose perspective I seem to gain the most from have either kept the movement conditioning at arms length,(Judy and sometimes Lawson as examples), or followed other POVs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
snip Those I know personally who do the full program do not show me that they are any different in positive ways. Different from what, in what ways? They just did not seem any different, This discussion interests me. I have gone through these stages of thinking; Sidhas

[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton and Obama

2008-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 24, 2008, at 3:02 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: It's part of the rules of natural law, Angela. If anything negative is *ever* said about Hillary Clinton, it's part of an orches- trated hit against her by her

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-02-24 Thread Vaj
On Feb 24, 2008, at 10:18 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:03 AM, sparaig wrote: Vaj has his own agenda concerning TM research. The book he quotes is by a well- respected neuroscientist who happens to be a

[FairfieldLife] Re: John from Cinncinnati's haiku on the nature of Bliss

2008-02-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
Paddle out. Notice a cool wave. Catch wave. Bliss. Paddle out. Confusion arises from erroneously identifying words, objects, and ideas with one another; knowledge of the cries of all creatures comes through perfect discipline of the distinctions between them (Y.S. 3.17).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Surf's Up

2008-02-24 Thread Marek Reavis
Turq, I remember you mentioning last year about the time you were planning your move to Sitges that maybe you'd take up surfing, and since then I've wondered if your casual intention might become more concrete. Sure hope so; I couldn't encourage you more. It's such a radical and positive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
I hate to use the word because it might get people's back up, but I felt like I was witnessing something akin to group psychosis. Once upon a time, I, Chuang Tsu, dreamt I was a butterfly. . . . Suddenly I awaked, and there I lay, myself again. Now I do not know whether I was then a man

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
Lemme throw this into the mix: Given that we all are or were practitioners of TM, is it possible that having recognized the need to distance ourselves from movement conditioning is a function of improvement in our cognitive skills as a result of our TM practice (whether or not we've continued the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton and Obama

2008-02-24 Thread Angela Mailander
I said I wanted input. And I got input. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The other time I've been disingenuous (as if the one talking could ever be otherwise) is with the post about Clinton

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'

2008-02-24 Thread Duveyoung
Sorry so many posts were wasted by you guys trying to figure out what sort/amount of emotions I'm having. Me having fears? Not so much. I'm an exaggerating hyperbolic hip-shooting writer. I glory in the way pieces of a conceptual jigsaw puzzle snap together, and when the picture forms -- it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton and Obama

2008-02-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
Well, now we know. We do? Texas is pro-trade. Its economic well-being depends on its international ports -- on land and on sea. And it's a right-to-work state. Sen. Clinton was rewarded with an awkward silence when she said, We're going to stop giving a penny of your money to anybody who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life as safe haven

2008-02-24 Thread Tom
This forum is an interesting place with some diverse viewpoints Turq. I am glad it is here and that I have the opportunity to read it. Thanks to one and allwell, maybe not a couple of yas. grin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm noticing

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'

2008-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry so many posts were wasted by you guys trying to figure out what sort/amount of emotions I'm having. Me having fears? Not so much. I'm an exaggerating hyperbolic hip-shooting writer. I glory in the way pieces

[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton and Obama

2008-02-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
Angela Mailander wrote: Let's take a closer look at who's really qualified and or who's really working for the good of all of us in the Senate. Obama or Clinton. Yes, let's take a look at who's qualified and who's really working to secure U.S. borders: This is especially the case for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread Vaj
On Feb 24, 2008, at 11:04 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Reports of results on sidhis are mostly the kind of results that a developed imagination can cook up, especially in the fluid and generative meditation state. Independent research on what type of people are attracted to TM would seem to

YAWG - Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin)

2008-02-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
Hagen J. Holtz wrote: Sad, that you seem to be only distracting from factual dispute, so that the only question to ask back is, from what Wannabe fraction you are coming ? Blame it on the leaf.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton and Obama

2008-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The other time I've been disingenuous (as if the one talking could ever be otherwise) is with the post about Clinton and Obama. Even with the disclaimer I haven't checked the info myself the assumption was

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'

2008-02-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
Now that I know both you and Angela enjoy trolling, I can just dump you in the box with Willytex. Yeah, anything to avoid discussing the campaign issues! The 2008 election is not about the economy, stupid, or jobs, jobs, jobs. And if, as both Clinton and Obama suggest, though Obama does it

Re: YAWG - Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin)

2008-02-24 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
For the record, I do not aspire to having discussions with you about the things you consider contents. I don't find the same things fascinating that you seem to find fascinating. I will therefore content myself with merely asking questions from time to time. In case you limit yourself to simply

[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton and Obama

2008-02-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: snip The other time I've been disingenuous (as if the one talking could ever be otherwise) is with the post about Clinton and Obama.

[FairfieldLife] Taming the Inner Caveman

2008-02-24 Thread new . morning
These may be useful methods for dealing with the inner caveman of some posters. http://nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/05well.html?pagewanted=print February 5, 2008 Well Coping With the Caveman in the Crib By TARA PARKER-POPE If there is such a person as a baby whisperer, it is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'

2008-02-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Sorry so many posts were wasted by you guys trying to figure out what sort/amount of emotions I'm having. Me having fears? Not so much. I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taming the Inner Caveman

2008-02-24 Thread new . morning
The thing about toddlers is that they are uncivilized, Dr. Karp says. Our job is to civilize them, to teach them to say please and thank you, don't spit and scratch and don't pee anywhere you want. These are the jobs you have with a toddler. Rick -- you may want to consider this criteria when

[FairfieldLife] Absence of sidhis results (was Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington)

2008-02-24 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- Rick Archer wrote: I'm not cynical about the siddhis. I'm just being honest about my lack of experience with them. As I said, I may very well have been doing them wrong. Or maybe my mind wasn't settled enough or my transcendence clear enough to produce the predicted result. I've

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life as safe haven

2008-02-24 Thread Tom
Food for thought new morning. It is simply amazing. Sometimes that anger is oh so tangible. Some love to push others buttons when those buttons are exposed by electrons and silicon chips with the human face absent. Those who do, steep in a very dark place. On the other hand, some pretty cool

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 24, 2008, at 11:04 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Reports of results on sidhis are mostly the kind of results that a developed imagination can cook up, especially in the fluid and generative meditation state.

[FairfieldLife] The Hag and Bev are NOT opposites (Re: Tony Nadir)

2008-02-24 Thread Tom
You seem like a guy who has never experienced much joy and happiness Nablus. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: They're scumbags and elitists and twisted sociopaths to say the things

YAWG - Who taught the siddhis to you ? (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin)

2008-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipping all of the irrelevant egobullshit Now...please...answer the question. Do YOU have disciples and followers? Yes I have !!! (I guess at least it is so J). Is that, what you wanted to hear and let

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lemme throw this into the mix: Given that we all are or were practitioners of TM, is it possible that having recognized the need to distance ourselves from movement conditioning is a function of improvement in

[FairfieldLife] Flying Sutra Experiences

2008-02-24 Thread Kirk
I have found that I cannot tell the difference between flying sutra and a cup of coffee. In fact, the latter makes me feel light as a feather all through program. And if I also have an antihistamine, well, I just can't wrap my mind around why I simply cannot fly. The real issue is that when I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Attention nablusoss

2008-02-24 Thread Tom
Thank you for cutting straight to the heart of it hugheshugo. I could not agree more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life as safe haven

2008-02-24 Thread Kirk
Thermodynamically speaking heat flows to cool. Now that supercooled Maharishi is gone, someone else is going to have to chill. - Original Message - From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:

[FairfieldLife] Re: True Evil

2008-02-24 Thread Tom
Wow! Get it out dude! Get it out and leave it behind in the dust and go forward with the great power and spirit you are wont to display. My only complaint is you left out prairie dog taco eater. bowing towards Turq --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taming the Inner Caveman

2008-02-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing about toddlers is that they are uncivilized, Dr. Karp says. Our job is to civilize them, to teach them to say please and thank you, don't spit and scratch and don't pee anywhere you want. These are the jobs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington

2008-02-24 Thread Marek Reavis
This post (below) and the threads on Kirk's and Steve's (and Hagen's) experiences are what makes FFL such a resource. Thanks one and all. FFL seems like a great big paramecium and every once in a while it gives this big jump(!) and a wiggle of the cilia of attention that sure interests me.

[FairfieldLife] the oldest trap of all pattern-seeking, storytelling animals

2008-02-24 Thread new . morning
http://www.michaelshermer.com/2000/02/chicken-soup-for-the-evolutions-soul/ Wright has fallen into the oldest trap of all pattern-seeking, storytelling animals: writing yourself into the story as the central pattern in order to find purpose and meaning in this gloriously contingent cosmos.

[FairfieldLife] Absence of sidhis results (was Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington)

2008-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer wrote: I'm not cynical about the siddhis. I'm just being honest about my lack of experience with them. As I said, I may very well have been doing them wrong. Or maybe my mind wasn't

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