[FairfieldLife] 'The Healing Power of Intentional Spiritual Light'
The Healing Power of Spiritual Light by Owen Waters The Buddha spent many years trying to understand evil and suffering. He eventually concluded that the only real power in the universe is the Creator and that all else is illusion and therefore has little or no power in comparison. He then went on to counsel people to adopt the middle way in order to avoid being sucked into illusion and bringing suffering upon themselves. He saw attachment to things of the world as the source of suffering, so he advised people to be a part of the world, yet not attached to it. His words ring as true today as they did 2,500 years ago; and yet, times have changed. Today's level of popular consciousness is far beyond that of the relatively dark times of 2,500 years ago. Today, detachment is still excellent advice, but we can do so much more now to consciously transform the old ways of darkness. Physical darkness is the absence of physical light. The darkness itself is not real. It is merely an absence of something that is real. Likewise, spiritual darkness is the absence of spiritual light. Spiritual darkness itself is not real. It is merely an absence of something that is real. Evil is an illusion because a shadow is not a real thing. Light is the real thing. A shadow is an illusion caused by the absence of light. The only reality, the only real power, is light itself. Darkness can only exist in hiding from the light. When light shines in, it dissipates the darkness, making it obvious where the real power lies. Evil has no power in itself. It is only a lack of light. The real power is, and always has been, with the light and not with the shadow. If you sense darkness, add light. If you sense pain, add the light of healing energy. If you sense hatred, add the light of love. If you sense despair, add the light of hope and trust in the goodness of that from which we came and that to which we are returning. The Nature of Spiritual Light Spiritual light, in its fundamental form, is the omnipresent consciousness of the Creator. When intertwined with the unconditional love of the Creator and set into motion, it manifests as the universe. Filters can block spiritual light. Such filters include fear, hatred, judgment, conflict and despair. That which engenders any of these is, therefore, promoting darkness. Darkness in consciousness affects mind, body and spirit. When spiritual light is channeled through the human mind, it adds to the light of the world. Darkness can be healed through the addition of spiritual light. While spiritual light is universally available in all frequencies, it has to flow through human consciousness in order to affect the human realm of consciousness. The effectiveness of sending healing spiritual light into an area that needs it is subject to the following two laws. The Laws of Spiritual Light 1. The transformative ability of spiritual light is proportional to the frequency of the consciousness used to project it. Explanation: Conditioning the intent with any agenda lowers the frequency. Projecting pure spiritual light for the unconditioned purpose of healing raises the frequency and the potential. 2. The amount of spiritual light projected is proportional to the degree of openness of the chakra through which it flows. Explanation: Your thoughts flow from you to the outside world through the appropriate chakra. Spiritual practices develop the chakras, increasing your capability as a channel for spiritual light. *If you enjoyed today's article, forward it to a friend! They will appreciate your thoughtfulness. This article was written by Owen Waters, author of The Shift: The Revolution in Human Consciousness
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin Hits Obama's Terrorist Connection
McCain/Palin when their intelligence is not in question Quite right, it's not in question, they are very clearly dumb. The big problem the Repubs have is that although there are very good highfalutin intellectual reasons for small government and not much regulation, by hitching themselves up with the christian taleban they've entered a pact with the devil. The result is that they can't find intelligent leaders because they have to rely on support from the most ignorant part of the population. If you're planning to wage war against the rest of the world for as long as it takes, then you need a leader at least as bright as the bad guys. There are good reasons for small government but it requires intelligence to understand those reasons and the repubs simply can't find leaders bright enough to grasp why such policies are good ideas. The brighter sections of the repubs are now realizing that intelligence and education are requirements for leading America and the down home thicko anti-elitist stuff might win votes but it produces dumb leaders. They won't be voting McCain/Palin this time round. This is tricky for repubs who feel they have to support their tribe come what may, like people who still support the TMO position on the ME in spite of all evidence that they can't control the weather or stock markets, they have to twist themselves into knots to handle the cognitive dissonance. The result is that it leaves people like you twisting in the wind desperately trying to support a pair of obvious thickos because they're your tribe even though everyone outside the Neaderthal element of the reds can see the real situation. Which leads us on to the claim that Obama is somehow a terrorist because he once walked down the same street as someone who advocated armed rebellion at a time when Obama was a child. It's stretching things a bit far and it's so obviously dumb you might as well claim he's controlled by radio from outer-space. It's a classic desperation play, just like Bevan's claim that the financial crisis is all the fault of the TMO creating a phase transition. On the other hand a McCain/Palin win might be good because it would be so bad for America that more people might just realize that elite educated people are what we want leaders to be. We expect leaders to be brighter and know more than us, not just reflect our own ignorance. Medvedev and Putin are extremely clever people, the Chinese premier can quote from Adam Smith and has a cabinet made up of engineering graduates. America would have a pair who need coaching from a team of advisers just to find their own butts. The inevitable transition from America as world superpower to America as one big country amongst many would be accelerated. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that a fact? Are you saying that Obama's affiliation with a terrorist, which is not in question, makes him more qualified to be president than McCain/Palin when their intelligence is not in question, except in your opinion? Try again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@ wrote: Which ignores the fact that an intelligent terrorist would make a better leader than a dumb patriot.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . As for the global warming thing, I am disappointed that Palin even SLIGHTLY acknowledged that ANY global warming was man-made. Catastrophic man-made global warming is a myth, it is completely an unfounded scientific notion, I love reading stuff here. You made a good point about the dangers of fundamentalism in government and then follow it up with your own kooky beliefs. Surely what we need at the helm is someone who can assess evidence and act reasonably whether it's climate science or paleontology. (Not to be confused with Palintology which is clearly nonsense). and it has already lead to the death of many thousands of people. Talk about mixing science with religion, Curtis! My gosh, global warming is a fanatical radical religion far worse and extreme than anything Sarah Palin may believe in regarding dinasaurs. Surreal. Hey, hey, AGJ, how many babies have you killed today? This should be yelled from every rooftop in America. Al Gore and his global warming cult are killing the poorest of the poor and this is the biggest issue of the decade as far as I'm concerned. And it is nutcase fundamentalism that is on the par with people like Barry Wright's belief that he witnessed levitation or fundamentalists who believe that Jesus will rise again. As for Bush's bad things outweighing the good well I'll be the first to agree with you on that...we just may disagree on which bad things are doing the outweighing. As for the Sonny Bono reference: I was actually referring to the U2 Bono who is a big Bush supporter, at least in things Third World and AIDS (I tried to make a funny). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/12/bush_bad_science/ I was referring to this. A president who does not understand how science works or even general principles of epistemology work causes other problems. His understanding about what would constitute good evidence of the situation in pre-war Iraq for example. Neither Bush nor Palin demonstrate clear thinking skills, they go with their gut. Palin does not need to know the causes of global warming before she goes in to fix the problem. Do you understand the implications of this style of thinking? Be that as it may, Curtis, you should be aware that George Bush leads the world in supporting and providing funds for both AIDS research and providing monies to the Third World to combat AIDS. And he has far surpassed Clinton in doing it and that's why people like Sonny Bono praise him for this. Sonny rose from the grave? His plan has many good and some bad points. In a country where rape is the biggest problem with the spread of AIDs his giving a third of the money for prevention towards abstinence education seems out of touch. Bush has done lots of good things Shemp. For me the bad things out weigh the good. YMMV. But I don't want another 4 years of anti intellectual bias in the White House. I don't believe that Joe Six Pack is able to handle the problems our world faces right now. I am looking for someone more...how shall I say it...elite. Yeah, that's it. I want a person in the White House who is much smarter than I am. And that doesn't raise the bar that high but it does clear the Prom Up-Do'd head of Sarah Palin. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Sarah Palin believing that dinosaurs roamed the earth with humans 4,000 years ago (or whatever it is that she allegedly believes that everyone is up in arms about)... ...or... Believing that Jesus dying and being tortured on a wooden cross will wash away all your sins -- past, present, and future? I find the latter claim much more absurd, frightening, and indicative of mental illness than the former. And yet Barack Obama -- who, being a Christian, as he'll readily admit -- must necessarily subscribe to the latter. Judy already nailed this but that wont stop me. The confusion you are expressing about different areas of knowledge Shemp, is precisely why George Bush and God forbid Sarah Palin in the White House causes so much trouble for the advancement of scientific understanding of our lives. Thinking that the theory of evolution and mythology from an old book are on an epistemological par causes people in power to disregard the
[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of new.morning Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 9:46 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question Today we still are in the land of timid little sheep politicians. Some are a bit braver than others. But still sheep, not lions. Could a lion get elected? Your following point illustrates why even the best politicians have to perform a balancing act between truth and pragmatism. Maybe when the public is educated sufficiently to understand it -- then the message will not be all dumbed down to 10 seconds sound bits -- and winks. And America (or its successors) will seriously look to competence, vision, integrity, facts and courage to tell them. And to proactively paint a real vision of the future -- not a reaction to polls. Gentlemen, your discussions have addressed the current situation in the world. There is fear in the world markets as to where the next misfortune will lie. But that is typical of the those who are attached to the world of phenominal existence. The situation in the USA is not as dire as people may think. We are now in the process of a major paradigm shift. The country is looking for someone who can disengage from the mistakes of the prior administrative administration. In jyotish, this paradigm shift is understood in the change of dashas or major period related to the USA jyotish chart. In November 2008, the USA will enter into a new phase of Mars. As indicated in the chart, the Mars period will augur a change in perception of the American's consciousness. It will be a sharp departure from the past administration's assumptions and expectations. Since the USA is the most influential country in the world in matters of economics, the change will be felt throughout the rest of the world. The election process that we are undergoing right now is part of that change. We as a nation is undergoing a major change in national consciousness. Thus, it is vital that the right candidates are elected in the executive positions to carry the country through its natural progression. The choice that the Americans make will be representative of its own national consciousness. In any case, the state of world affairs will follow suit. JR
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kimbo Knocked Out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oy vay! Kimbo got knocked out in 14 seconds by an out of shape third tier dude called in at the last second to fight him. He charged-in with his head totally exposed and caught a glancing chopping right and went down. Just pathetic. Does Kimbo even train? Real novice mistake. Pathetic. did you see it Curtis? Kimbo is like a biblical goliath. In other words, he's a dud.
[FairfieldLife] Do horse wink and pale in? ; )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whore_of_Babylon
[FairfieldLife] Re: Do horse wink and pale in? ; )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whore_of_Babylon Carde, You haven't stated what your opinion is about the subject. Let us know and we can respond accordingly. Nonetheless, the subject is very interesting and mysterious.
[FairfieldLife] Abstract: The effects of SILLY Syndrome on FFL reading time
Ok, this isn't really an official abstract of an official scientfic study, merely a subjective report on how SILLY (Self Important Losers Laugh- ably Yammering) Syndrome affects FFL reading time. I fired off my last previous post to FFL from the hotel bar at the Média last night about 9:00 PM, and then went to see two movies. They were OK, but nothing to write home -- or here -- about. Afterward, I hung out with other attendees at the festival, none of whom -- as far as I could tell -- have any history of involvement in Things Spiritual. There was not a single mention of American politics, not a single attempt to paint someone as the Bad Guy or Bad Girl responsible for all the world's problems, and gener- ally, not a single mention of the problems themselves. Instead, the conversation centered on movies and the creative process. Fascinatingly (and possibly because this is a fantasy, horror, and scifi festival and not arty film people), the room was remarkably free of outsized egos trying to dominate the conversation and impose their POVs on others. All in all, it was a very pleasant evening, largely because no one seemed *over- shadowed* by doom and gloom visions of the coming apocalypse/financial meltdown/tough times ahead. Then I wandered home, got a good night's sleep, got up this morning, meditated, read some work-related emails, and then logged into Fairfield Life. What I found was almost 100 posts that had been made since I last read FFL. I clicked the first of them, and then the second, and then the third, and then realized that it wasn't taking me very long at all to get through them. Even for the posters who *weren't* on my Do Not Bother To Read List, all it took was about 5 seconds of skimming to get a feel for the vibe and the intent of the post. And very few of them were worth spending *more* than five seconds on before clicking Next. It took me less than five minutes to go through the whole list. The reason is that most of the posts I was reading, whether I agreed with what the poster was saying or not, were written by people who had become completely over- shadowed. The writers were so SERIOUS, so overwhelmed by and consumed by whatever they were writing about that any sense of Self seemed totally forgotten. In many cases even any sense of self seemed totally forgotten -- people were just spouting someone ELSE's overshadowed fears and obsessions because they were no longer creative enough to have their own. And this on a forum supposedly populated by people who have spent 3-4 decades on a spiritual path. The contrast between the mindset of FFL (a group of sup- posedly spiritual people completely overshadowed by political bullshit and current problems and unable to talk about any- thing else) and the post-movie gathering in the Média bar last night (a group of non-spiritual people who, while aware of the political bullshit and very real problems around them, refused to let them be the only thing they could talk about) struck me, and so I'm rappin' about it this morning instead of bothering to reply to any of the FFL posts themselves. The mindset of the FFL posts was consistently This is what I am overshadowed by currently, and I'm going to talk talk talk about it until you are as overshadowed by it as I am. The mindset of the post-movie gathering at the bar was consistently, This is what excites and inspires me currently, and I'm just going to throw it out and see if it inspires you, too. If it does, cool, let's rap about it...if not, cool, let's talk about something that does inspire you. I guess all of this is just a way of saying thanks to the few individuals here who are consistently NOT overshadowed by all the bullshit that is America And Its Problems right now. Thanks for never losing sight of that which inspires you -- or at the very least makes you laugh -- and for writing about it from time to time, making me consistently pause to read your posts all the way through and savor them instead of Nexting past them after five seconds. You make this place still worth spending time on.
[FairfieldLife] Man's destiny. By the Master ----, through Benjamin Creme. 5 September 2008
Man's destiny by the Master , through Benjamin Creme, 5 September 2008 When men awaken to their true potential they will be amazed by the range of creativity which will become theirs. The audacity of their thought will at first astound them, and will lead them into enterprises all but unimaginable today. Men will find that they are, in truth, potential Gods. From the deep slumber of the past men will awaken and slough off the heavy coat of ignorance which for long has delayed their forward progress. Thus will it be. Man is now at the turning point in his long adventure in life on planet Earth. From now on, all progress will be the result of his considered will and reason. No longer will greed and competition impede his journey to perfection; no longer will war, and want for millions, degrade and stain his path; never again will lawlessness and separation rule on planet Earth. Ladder Man's foot now stands on a ladder of ascent which will take him to the very stars. As We, your elder Brothers, take Our places beside you, you will see in Us exemplars, and be inspired to become like Us. You will see that We know no competition, that We value all life in whatever form. You will see that We love without distinction or condition; and work only and always for the fulfilment of the Plan. Men are destined by the Plan to reach that same perfection; Ours is the task to show them the way. The path to such perfection is well trodden by Us and We have set in place the needed landmarks: men must see humanity as One, brothers and sisters, sons of the One Father. Freedom and Justice are essential to all, everywhere, without exception, and can only be achieved by trust. Sharing alone can create that trust, and set men on the path to their divinity. Men, to be happy, must live within the Laws of Life: of Cause and Effect, Rebirth, Harmlessness and Sacrifice. These basic Laws are the Ancient Landmarks which protect men from self-destruction and remorse. When Maitreya steps forward into open vision you will hear these Laws again, for they form the basis of all His teaching and the basis of all life on planet Earth. Import The awakening of men depends on humanity grasping the import of these Laws and their willingness and readiness to change. This present so- called civilization has `run its bolt', is decayed and dying, with little further to offer men than hardship and fear, and, finally, self-annihilation. Maitreya comes to show men that they have within themselves all that it takes to become the Gods they essentially are. To show them how simple and beautiful is that way, and to inspire them to grasp and accept their destiny. Maitreya doubts not their response. http://shareintl.org/magazine/SI_current.htm
[FairfieldLife] Oldest 'Footprints' on Earth Found
(Oct. 5) - The oldest-known tracks of a creature apparently using legs have been discovered in rock dated to 570 million years ago in what was once a shallow sea in Nevada. Scientists think land beasts evolved from ancient creatures that left the sea and evolved lungs and legs. If the new finding is real the discoverer says it will fuel skepticism it pushes the advent of walking back 30 million years earlier than any previous solid finding. The aquatic creature left its footprints as two parallel rows of small dots, each about 2 millimeters in diameter. Scientists said today that the animal must have stepped lightly onto the soft marine sediment, because its legs only pressed shallow pinpoints into that long-ago sea bed. http://news.aol.com/article/oldest-footprints-on-earth-found/200822?icid=100214839x1211170709x1200675227 In related news, Sarah Palin reacted to this find by suggesting that the fossilized footprints were much more recent, from 1970, and show the first conclusive evidence that Barrack Obama was directly involved in the Pentagon bombing with his pal and fellow terrorist Bill Ayers. Said Palin, The tiny size of the footprints is because Obama was only eight years old at the time, but even at that early age his Muslim, anti-American, terrorist tendencies were becoming manifest.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oldest 'Footprints' on Earth Found
TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] The aquatic creature left its footprints as two parallel rows of small dots, each about 2 millimeters in diameter. Scientists said today that the animal must have stepped lightly onto the soft marine sediment, because its legs only pressed shallow pinpoints into that long-ago sea bed. Is that the cutest thing you ever heard. Probably looked like some cute beanie baby, just getting it's land legs. Likely took him a day or so before he could walk. And running in about a week.
[FairfieldLife] FFL Special -- Live from Spain: Mr Projection
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, this isn't really an official abstract of an official scientfic study, merely a subjective report on how SILLY (Self Important Losers Laugh- ably Yammering) Syndrome affects FFL reading time. not arty film people), the room was remarkably free of outsized egos trying to dominate the conversation and impose their POVs on others. All in all, it was a very pleasant evening, largely because no one seemed *over- shadowed* by doom and gloom visions of the coming apocalypse/financial meltdown/tough times ahead. The reason is that most of the posts I was reading, whether I agreed with what the poster was saying or not, were written by people who had become completely over- shadowed. The writers were so SERIOUS, so overwhelmed by and consumed by whatever they were writing about that any sense of Self seemed totally forgotten. In many cases even any sense of self seemed totally forgotten -- people were just spouting someone ELSE's overshadowed fears and obsessions because they were no longer creative enough to have their own. The mindset of the FFL posts was consistently This is what I am overshadowed by currently, and I'm going to talk talk talk about it until you are as overshadowed by it as I am. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Too pornographic for a Victorian(?) translator? :D
All right, cardemaister, don't be coy -
how would those verses read if they had
not been bowdlerized?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Griffith has omitted the verses 16 and 17 from his translation
of Rgveda X 86:
14 Fifteen in number, then, for me a score of bullocks they prepare,
And I devour the fat thereof: they fill my belly full with food.
Supreme is Indra over all.
15 Like as a bull with pointed horn, loud bellowing amid the herds,
Sweet to thine heart, O Indra, is the brew which she who tends thee
pours. Supreme is Indra over all.
18 O Indra this Vrsakapi hath found a slain wild animal,
Dresser, and new-made pan, and knife, and wagon with a load of wood.
Supreme is Indra over all.
Those verses contain the words 'kapRt' (penis; lemma: kapRth) and
'romasha' (hairy; cunt).
na seshe yasya rambate 'ntaraa sakthyaa kapRt
sed ishe yasya romashaM niSeduSo vijRmbhate vishvasmaad
indra uttaraH
na seshe yasya romashaM niSeduSo vijRmbhate
sed ishe yasya rambate 'ntaraa sakthyaa kapRd vishvasmaad
indra uttaraH
kapRth%{t} m. (fr. 4. %{ka} and %{pRR} Sa1y.) , ` causing or
increasing pleasure ' , membrum virile RV. x , 86 , 16 ; 17 ; N. of
Indra [Sa1y.] RV. x , 101 , 12.
romazamf(%{A4})n. (cf. %{lomaza}) having thick hair or wool or
bristles , hairy , shaggy RV. c. c. ; applied to a faulty
pronunciation of vowels Pat. ; m. a sheep , ram L. ; a hog , boar L. ;
N. of two plants (= %{kambhI} and %{piNDA7lu}) L. ; = %{dullala} (?)
L. ; N. of a R2ishi BhP. ; of an astronomer (cf. %{-siddhA7nta}) ;
(%{A}) f. Cucumis Utilissimus L. ; another plant (= %{dagdhA}) L. ; N.
of the reputed authoress of RV. i , 126 , 7 RAnukr. ; (%{I}) f. a
squirrel L. ; n. the pudenda RV. x , 86 , 16.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv10086.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Secession -- Roach Motel America -- As North Pole Melts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And despite the (false dreamland) view of many, the Constitution (of the US) is neither sacred, invoked from God, eternal or perfect. It was a good consensus agreement with many flaws worked out by many gentlemen farmer slaveholders to -- in Tom Jefferson's view -- to last 20 years or so until the next (positive -- in his view) cleansing revolution. There is nothing that prevents legislation or a new clarifying Amendment that explicitly establishes the rights of all states -- and municipalities -- to seceede and form more perfect unions that better promote the life liberty and happiness of its citizens (after paying an exit fee for their share of debt and federal assets in their state). My life, liberty, happiness, economic well being, are all literally threatened by this long overripe and failing union with the Red States. And my intelligence is daily insulted, an my heart daily broken, by their actions -- and I cherish the right at some point to disassociate with Nascar nation and all that they stand for. That's funny because you seem to be *supporting* 'Joe six-pack' Palin and McCain who *do* represent the Red States and the Nascar nation and all that they stand for.
[FairfieldLife] Rape Victim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IS0PJdE0Cs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Abstract: The effects of SILLY Syndrome on FFL reading time
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The mindset of the FFL posts was consistently This is what I am overshadowed by currently, and I'm going to talk talk talk about it until you are as overshadowed by it as I am. Says Barry, talk-talk-talking about what *he's* currently overshadowed by--how inferior and unspiritual most FFL posts are compared to the highly evolved conversation of horror movie fans-- until, he hopes, we're as overshadowed by it as he is. giggle
[FairfieldLife] Re: Secession -- Roach Motel America -- As North Pole Melts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: And despite the (false dreamland) view of many, the Constitution (of the US) is neither sacred, invoked from God, eternal or perfect. It was a good consensus agreement with many flaws worked out by many gentlemen farmer slaveholders to -- in Tom Jefferson's view -- to last 20 years or so until the next (positive -- in his view) cleansing revolution. There is nothing that prevents legislation or a new clarifying Amendment that explicitly establishes the rights of all states -- and municipalities -- to seceede and form more perfect unions that better promote the life liberty and happiness of its citizens (after paying an exit fee for their share of debt and federal assets in their state). My life, liberty, happiness, economic well being, are all literally threatened by this long overripe and failing union with the Red States. And my intelligence is daily insulted, an my heart daily broken, by their actions -- and I cherish the right at some point to disassociate with Nascar nation and all that they stand for. That's funny because you seem to be *supporting* 'Joe six-pack' Palin and McCain who *do* represent the Red States and the Nascar nation and all that they stand for. And what are the policies the you believe (misperceive) that I am supporting? Do you actually read my posts -- or simply rely on inner-world knowledge of reality as some of our astute members also do?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oldest 'Footprints' on Earth Found
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] In related news, Sarah Palin reacted to this find by suggesting that the fossilized footprints were much more recent, from 1970, [snip] And you are SO intellecually and morally BETTER than the fundamentalist rube that is Sarah Palin, aren't you, Barry? You snicker at her and look down your nose at her from your superior perch because she -- ha! ha! -- believes something as silly as man only being created 5,000 years ago. Tell you what, Barry: let's go to Harvard University or any other great university in the world of your choice and gather, at random, 100 of the best minds at that institution. And we'll ask them: who is more nutty: a woman who reads her Bible and believes that humans were created only 5,000 years ago ... or ... a man who was in a cult for years and, to this day, actually believes he witnessed his cult- guru levitate on dozens of occasions. Gosh, Barry, what do you think the results of such a poll would be?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rape Victim
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IS0PJdE0Cs John Ashcroft, the former attorney-general who oversaw the implementation of all federal laws in the United States, also held the same wacky views on abortion that Sarah Palin does. During his four year tenure as AG -- and, as such, oversaw the abortion laws of the United States -- not one of the approximately 5 million fetuses aborted in the United States were prevented from being sucked out of their mothers' wombs. Indeed, Ashcroft was asked this very question by Democrat pro-choice Senators during his confirmation process and he replied in kind (I paraphrase): as AG, I do not make the laws but on required to ensure their proper implementation even those that I personally oppose. Since the passage of Roe v Wade 35 years ago in 1973, we've had 23 years of pro-life Republican presidents. Of the 12 years of Democrat presidents, 4 of those years were run by Jimmy Carter who is more anti- abortion than any of the Republican presidents. Yet despite this overwhelming opposition to abortion on the part of the United States presidents over the past 35 years, not one of the approximately 45 million aborted fetuses that have taken place has been prevented from occuring. And please note that seven of the nine current sitting judges of the Supreme Court were appointed by the Republican presidents (only 2 were appointed by Clinton, the ONLY president since Roe v Wade to support pro-choice). If Sarah Palin were to ever become president, she would have zero power -- ZERO -- to influence the implementation of abortion laws in this country. Yes, she could appoint pro-life judges to the Supreme Court but we've seen how successful THAT'S been, haven't we!
[FairfieldLife] Dinosaurs versus Sarah Palin
After much careful scientific deliberation (OK, 30 seconds of sniggering) I have decided which particular mesozoic predator I would most like Sarah Palin* to have actually shared the world with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allosaurus In action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxQMXD8z7kA * Indeed most politicians
[FairfieldLife] Re: Secession -- Roach Motel America -- As North Pole Melts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: And despite the (false dreamland) view of many, the Constitution (of the US) is neither sacred, invoked from God, eternal or perfect. It was a good consensus agreement with many flaws worked out by many gentlemen farmer slaveholders to -- in Tom Jefferson's view -- to last 20 years or so until the next (positive -- in his view) cleansing revolution. There is nothing that prevents legislation or a new clarifying Amendment that explicitly establishes the rights of all states -- and municipalities -- to seceede and form more perfect unions that better promote the life liberty and happiness of its citizens (after paying an exit fee for their share of debt and federal assets in their state). My life, liberty, happiness, economic well being, are all literally threatened by this long overripe and failing union with the Red States. And my intelligence is daily insulted, an my heart daily broken, by their actions -- and I cherish the right at some point to disassociate with Nascar nation and all that they stand for. That's funny because you seem to be *supporting* 'Joe six-pack' Palin and McCain who *do* represent the Red States and the Nascar nation and all that they stand for. And what are the policies the you believe (misperceive) that I am supporting? Do you actually read my posts -- or simply rely on inner-world knowledge of reality as some of our astute members also do? Am I wrong that you are supporting Sarah Palin for VP even considering her and Todd's courting and [his] membership with the AIP? ...or is it just that you're so [understandably} bummed with the current national situation that you are seriously considering that secession from the Union is a viable alternative? From what I've seen, that bunch is made up of wacko right wingers who reflect the similar half-baked views of Sarah Palin. A seceded nation run by people like Todd and Sarah sounds horrific to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dinosaurs versus Sarah Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After much careful scientific deliberation (OK, 30 seconds of sniggering) I have decided which particular mesozoic predator I would most like Sarah Palin* to have actually shared the world with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allosaurus In action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxQMXD8z7kA * Indeed most politicians Hey, Sarah Palin could have handled these guys. Just give her a sporting chance (a high-powered rifle fired from the safety of a helicopter, the way she likes to hunt wolves) and she would have wasted their godless asses. Then she would have cut them up and dragged the meat back to Eden to cook up a dino stew for Adam. Maybe an apple pie for dessert... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
.
As for the global warming thing, I am disappointed that Palin
even
SLIGHTLY acknowledged that ANY global warming was man-made.
Catastrophic man-made global warming is a myth, it is completely
an
unfounded scientific notion,
I love reading stuff here. You made a good point about the dangers
of fundamentalism in government and then follow it up with your own
kooky beliefs.
Hell, I've got a lot of kooky beliefs...I'll be the first to admit it!
But if you're referring to my stance on catastrophic man-made global
warming, I can't be accused of it being a kooky belief because I'm
not the one with the belief: the Al Gore's of the world are!
You can say I am kooky for NOT sharing in their belief but I can't
have a belief -- kooky or otherwise -- if I choose not to believe in
something that has yet to happen ('cause, you see, catastrophic man-
made global warming isn't currently a reality...it may or may not
happen in the future but it isn't currently happening).
Surely what we need at the helm is someone who can
assess evidence and act reasonably whether it's climate science or
paleontology. (Not to be confused with Palintology which is clearly
nonsense).
and it has already lead to the death of
many thousands of people. Talk about mixing science with
religion,
Curtis! My gosh, global warming is a fanatical radical religion
far
worse and extreme than anything Sarah Palin may believe in
regarding
dinasaurs.
Surreal.
Hey, hey, AGJ, how many babies have you killed today? This
should
be yelled from every rooftop in America. Al Gore and his global
warming cult are killing the poorest of the poor and this is the
biggest issue of the decade as far as I'm concerned. And it is
nutcase fundamentalism that is on the par with people like Barry
Wright's belief that he witnessed levitation or fundamentalists
who
believe that Jesus will rise again.
As for Bush's bad things outweighing the good well I'll be the
first
to agree with you on that...we just may disagree on which bad
things
are doing the outweighing.
As for the Sonny Bono reference: I was actually referring to the
U2
Bono who is a big Bush supporter, at least in things Third World
and
AIDS (I tried to make a funny).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/12/bush_bad_science/
I was referring to this.
A president who does not understand how science works or even
general
principles of epistemology work causes other problems. His
understanding about what would constitute good evidence of the
situation in pre-war Iraq for example.
Neither Bush nor Palin demonstrate clear thinking skills, they
go
with
their gut. Palin does not need to know the causes of global
warming
before she goes in to fix the problem. Do you understand the
implications of this style of thinking?
Be that as it may, Curtis, you should be aware that George
Bush
leads the world in supporting and providing funds for both AIDS
research and providing monies to the Third World to combat
AIDS.
And
he has far surpassed Clinton in doing it and that's why
people
like
Sonny Bono praise him for this.
Sonny rose from the grave?
His plan has many good and some bad points. In a country where
rape
is the biggest problem with the spread of AIDs his giving a
third
of
the money for prevention towards abstinence education seems out
of
touch.
Bush has done lots of good things Shemp. For me the bad things
out
weigh the good. YMMV. But I don't want another 4 years of anti
intellectual bias in the White House. I don't believe that Joe
Six
Pack is able to handle the problems our world faces right now.
I
am
looking for someone more...how shall I say it...elite. Yeah,
that's
it. I want a person in the White House who is much smarter
than
I
am.
And that doesn't raise the bar that high but it does clear the
Prom
Up-Do'd head of Sarah Palin.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk
shempmcgurk@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend
jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk
shempmcgurk@
wrote:
Sarah Palin believing that dinosaurs roamed the earth
with
humans
4,000 years ago (or whatever it is that she allegedly
believes
that
everyone is up in arms about)...
...or...
Believing that Jesus dying and being tortured on
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dinosaurs versus Sarah Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: After much careful scientific deliberation (OK, 30 seconds of sniggering) I have decided which particular mesozoic predator I would most like Sarah Palin* to have actually shared the world with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allosaurus In action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxQMXD8z7kA * Indeed most politicians Hey, Sarah Palin could have handled these guys. Just give her a sporting chance (a high-powered rifle fired from the safety of a helicopter, the way she likes to hunt wolves) and she would have wasted their godless asses. And maybe this is how they became extinct! Then she would have cut them up and dragged the meat back to Eden to cook up a dino stew for Adam. Maybe an apple pie for dessert... :-) :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
On Oct 6, 2008, at 11:46 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: But if you're referring to my stance on catastrophic man-made global warming, I can't be accused of it being a kooky belief because I'm not the one with the belief: the Al Gore's of the world are! The ones with the kooky beliefs are the ones who fall for the dis- and mis-information campaign, largely lead by oil and coal interests, although often on the sly. Your confusion, along with many Right Wingers, is that this knee-jerk reaction by Big Oil et al. is real science. As a geology student we knew about greenhouse gas accumulation BACK IN THE 70's. What most people who have only been following this for the last decade or less do not realize is that Big Oil, et al. have been doing this seeding the ground with disinformation since long before manmade climate change became a front page or even newsworthy topic. They're no dumbies when it comes to looking after their own self-interest Shemp. Don't be so damn naive!
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 6, 2008, at 11:46 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: But if you're referring to my stance on catastrophic man-made global warming, I can't be accused of it being a kooky belief because I'm not the one with the belief: the Al Gore's of the world are! The ones with the kooky beliefs are the ones who fall for the dis- and mis-information campaign, largely lead by oil and coal interests, although often on the sly. Your confusion, along with many Right Wingers, is that this knee-jerk reaction by Big Oil et al. is real science. As a geology student we knew about greenhouse gas accumulation BACK IN THE 70's. Yes, I remember what you geniuses were saying back then about global warming: http://tinyurl.com/3xfoak Didn't quite work out as you predicted, did it? It's like when a witness who has changed his testimony appears in court and is inevitably asked under cross examination: we know you're a liar because you've already been proven to be one; the question is, were you lying then or are you lying now? So back in the '70s it was an ice age that we were supposed to be in the middle of by the time the year 2008 rolled by. Gosh, that didn't happen. So the fear-mongers had to come up with a new strategy...so they changed their minds and decided that it would be the OPPOSITE that would happen: we'd all roast under increased warmth! So tell me: were you right back in the '70s? Or are you right now? What most people who have only been following this for the last decade or less do not realize is that Big Oil, et al. have been doing this seeding the ground with disinformation since long before manmade climate change became a front page or even newsworthy topic. They're no dumbies when it comes to looking after their own self-interest Shemp. Don't be so damn naive!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Abstract: The effects of SILLY Syndrome on FFL reading time
Barry's New Theme Song by PIGMEAT MARKHAM 'Here Comes The Judge' 'The Trial' -1968 http://tinyurl.com/3wv29c Tile :Pigmeat Markham - Here Comes The Judge This is lyrics from www.lyrics007.com HERE COMES THE JUDGE Pigmeat Markham Hear ye, hear ye This court is now in session His Honor, Judge Pigmeat Markham presidin Hear ye, hear ye, the court of swing It's just about ready to do that thing I don't want no tears, I don't want no lies Above all, I don't want no alibis This Judge is hip, and that ain't all He'll give you time if you're big or small All in line for this court is neat Peace brother, here comes the Judge Here comes the Judge Everybody knows that he is the judge Everybody near or far I'm goin' to Paris to stop this war All those kids gotta listen to me Because I am the judge and you can plainly see I wanna big 'round table when I get there I won't sit down to one that's square I wanna lay down the law to them that brought it I'll bust some head because I am the judge He is the judge, he is the judge Who's there? I is. I is who? I is your next door neighbor Order in this courtroom, order in this courtroom Judge, your Honorship, Hi sir Did I hear you say Order in the Court? Yes I said order in the court Well, I'll take two cans of beer, please He is the judge, he is the judge Everybody knows that he is the judge I had a chat with Ho Chi Min With cheap rice wine and chased with gin Won't take long unless I miss my guess I'll have you out of this doggone mess I sent a cable to Bob and Mac Let them know I'm comin' back Sit right down with Rock and Nick Teach them boys some of Pigmeat's tricks Oh, oh judge, your Honor, Pigmeat said Don't you remember me?? No, who are you, boy Well, I'm the feller that introduced you To your wife... to my wife? Yeh, life! You son-of-a-gun you Come November, election time You vote your way, I'll vote mine Cause there's a tie, and the money gets spent Vote for Pigmeat Markham, President I am the judge, vote for Pigmeat I am the judge, vote for Pigmeat Now, everybody knows I am the judge
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rape Victim
John posted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IS0PJdE0Cs A person is either for abortion or against. There is no middle ground. If you are against abortion and pro life then to allow abortion for rape is still killing a person. There is no way to get out of this dilemma. Pro life says, every conception must go to term and deliver, no exceptions. Otherwise it is not about pro-life or choice. It is just a matter of drawing a line in the sand. - David http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IS0PJdE0Cs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rape Victim the Atman-Self entering the body
The sould does not permently enter a body till the 1 st breath may then easily leave for perhaps some time there after. the soul - Atman ius what is significant here not the body as we understand In a message dated 10/6/2008 12:10:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John posted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IS0PJdE0Cs A person is either for abortion or against. There is no middle ground. If you are against abortion and pro life then to allow abortion for rape is still killing a person. There is no way to get out of this dilemma. Pro life says, every conception must go to term and deliver, no exceptions. Otherwise it is not about pro-life or choice. It is just a matter of drawing a line in the sand. - David http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IS0PJdE0Cs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0001)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:06 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: Yes, I remember what you geniuses were saying back then about global warming: http://tinyurl.com/3xfoak Didn't quite work out as you predicted, did it? It's like when a witness who has changed his testimony appears in court and is inevitably asked under cross examination: we know you're a liar because you've already been proven to be one; the question is, were you lying then or are you lying now? So back in the '70s it was an ice age that we were supposed to be in the middle of by the time the year 2008 rolled by. Gosh, that didn't happen. So the fear-mongers had to come up with a new strategy...so they changed their minds and decided that it would be the OPPOSITE that would happen: we'd all roast under increased warmth! So tell me: were you right back in the '70s? Or are you right now? Actually what they were saying when I was in college is that there were two possible scenarios: potential ice age OR global warming. They just didn't know which one (c. 1978). The important thing was that they knew, way back then, that manmade climate change was a real possibility. The sad thing is that non-scientific interests have tried to muddy the waters ever since then. Thank god for Al Gore, he may have saved the planet.
[FairfieldLife] Hannitys Series: Barack Obama And The History of Radicalism, Videos
Hannity's Series: Barack Obama And The History of Radicalism, Videos Posted on October 6, 2008 by Uppity Woman http://tinyurl.com/4ssmkj ...the entire Hannity Series on Barack Obama. All parts are here... These are all the things that MSNBC, CNN, NY Times and others who are part of Obama's PRAVDA had deliberately ignored or skimmed over. If you do NOTHING between now and election day, see to it that others see this series. It may be the only chance they ever get to learn what we all know about this hoax of a candidate and what runs through his head. As Obama fluffs off these associations, ask others how many terrorists and radicals THEY have just happened to encounter in their lifetimes and then ask them how it could possibly be a coincidence that Barack Obama is a magnet for them. http://tinyurl.com/4ssmkj
[FairfieldLife] 60 Minutes - Wall Street's Shadow Market
(CBS) On Friday Congress finally passed - and President Bush signed into law - a financial rescue package in which the taxpayers will buy up Wall Street's bad investments. The numbers are staggering, but they don't begin to explain the greed and incompetence that created this mess. It began with a terrible bet that was magnified by reckless borrowing, complex securities, and a vast, unregulated shadow market worth nearly $60 trillion that hid the risks until it was too late to do anything about them. And as correspondent Steve Kroft reports, it's far from being over. VIDEO and full transcript: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/05/60minutes/main4502454.shtml http://tinyurl.com/3ufybt
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:06 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: Yes, I remember what you geniuses were saying back then about global warming: http://tinyurl.com/3xfoak Didn't quite work out as you predicted, did it? It's like when a witness who has changed his testimony appears in court and is inevitably asked under cross examination: we know you're a liar because you've already been proven to be one; the question is, were you lying then or are you lying now? So back in the '70s it was an ice age that we were supposed to be in the middle of by the time the year 2008 rolled by. Gosh, that didn't happen. So the fear-mongers had to come up with a new strategy...so they changed their minds and decided that it would be the OPPOSITE that would happen: we'd all roast under increased warmth! So tell me: were you right back in the '70s? Or are you right now? Actually what they were saying when I was in college is that there were two possible scenarios: potential ice age OR global warming. They just didn't know which one (c. 1978). The important thing was that they knew, way back then, that manmade climate change was a real possibility. The sad thing is that non-scientific interests have tried to muddy the waters ever since then. Thank god for Al Gore, he may have saved the planet. Vaj, why couldn't there be a third possibility, such as THAT NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN? Why is it that the only possibilities had to be something catastrophic? And to now say, as you do, that the two possibilities were the two extremes -- extreme hot or extreme cold -- my gosh, I'm not a scientist but I think I'm on safe ground when I say that THAT is wacky and kooky stuff and not something that can be called science. How does that definition of science go? That something is only known when it occurs as predicted as a repeatable experiment? Well, you can't postulate two wildly opposite outcomes and claim it to be science. That's religion (actually, it's more like a cult).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Abstract: The effects of SILLY Syndrome on FFL reading time
TurquoiseB wrote: The contrast between the mindset of FFL (a group of sup- posedly spiritual people completely overshadowed by political bullshit and current problems and unable to talk about any- thing else) and the post-movie gathering in the Média bar last night (a group of non-spiritual people who, while aware of the political bullshit and very real problems around them, refused to let them be the only thing they could talk about) struck me, and so I'm rappin' about it this morning instead of bothering to reply to any of the FFL posts themselves. Well usually when you go see a movie, afterwards you talk about the movie with your friends. Recently when I went to see Burn After Reading with a friend, who often discusses political issues (and who is a righty), afterward we discussed the film not politics. I'm sure the same would have happened if you had gone to see the film with a bunch of the people on FFL. Of course the situation might have been different if one of the films you saw reflected the global economic situation going on right now even where you live. What probably is most tiring on FFL are the people who would even consider someone as lame as Palin for VP. It shows you how far America has fallen. It is like it is on its deathbed. We would hope that the majority of Americans (which seems to be the trend) will vote against the Republican folly running for office.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Do horse wink and pale in? ; )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whore_of_Babylon Carde, You haven't stated what your opinion is about the subject. Let us know and we can respond accordingly. Nonetheless, the subject is very interesting and mysterious. I think it's kinda worrying that someone tries to become the VP of the USA by using some antics(?) of cheap whores...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Abstract: The effects of SILLY Syndrome on FFL reading time
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: The contrast between the mindset of FFL (a group of sup- posedly spiritual people completely overshadowed by political bullshit and current problems and unable to talk about any- thing else) and the post-movie gathering in the Média bar last night (a group of non-spiritual people who, while aware of the political bullshit and very real problems around them, refused to let them be the only thing they could talk about) struck me, and so I'm rappin' about it this morning instead of bothering to reply to any of the FFL posts themselves. Well usually when you go see a movie, afterwards you talk about the movie with your friends. Recently when I went to see Burn After Reading with a friend, who often discusses political issues (and who is a righty), afterward we discussed the film not politics. I'm sure the same would have happened if you had gone to see the film with a bunch of the people on FFL. None of the people were discussing any of the movies at the festival. Sadly, there really hasn't been that much to discuss yet. :-) The point is that these were distinctly non- spiritual types finding positive things to talk about, whereas the supposedly-spiritual people on FFL seemingly can't. I'm sorry, but there is something wrong with that picture. What probably is most tiring on FFL are the people who would even consider someone as lame as Palin for VP. Gotta agree with you there. It's on the level of someone considering Beavis and Butthead for President. Even *George W. Bush* is smarter than Sarah Palin! It shows you how far America has fallen. It is like it is on its deathbed. No, just drugged to stupefaction. Deathbed is too histrionic. :-) We would hope that the majority of Americans (which seems to be the trend) will vote against the Republican folly running for office. We would hope. No telling, though.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Abstract: The effects of SILLY Syndrome on FFL reading time
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: The contrast between the mindset of FFL (a group of sup- posedly spiritual people completely overshadowed by political bullshit and current problems and unable to talk about any- thing else) and the post-movie gathering in the Média bar last night (a group of non-spiritual people who, while aware of the political bullshit and very real problems around them, refused to let them be the only thing they could talk about) struck me, and so I'm rappin' about it this morning instead of bothering to reply to any of the FFL posts themselves. Well usually when you go see a movie, afterwards you talk about the movie with your friends. Recently when I went to see Burn After Reading with a friend, who often discusses political issues (and who is a righty), afterward we discussed the film not politics. I'm sure the same would have happened if you had gone to see the film with a bunch of the people on FFL. Or the reverse: If a bunch of Barry's horror-movie pals were to start participating on FFL, they would more than likely jump right into the political discussions. Goodness knows the U.S. has given Europeans enough to worry about. (And Spain has managed to get itself into deep trouble with its own collapsed housing bubble.) But Barry's illogic doesn't matter; he has to find some way of making himself feel superior to us here in the U.S., and particularly here on FFL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Abstract: The effects of SILLY Syndrome on FFL reading time
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The point is that these were distinctly non- spiritual types finding positive things to talk about, whereas the supposedly-spiritual people on FFL seemingly can't. I'm sorry, but there is something wrong with that picture. Just imagine what would be wrong with that picture, as far as Barry is concerned, if FFL were composed of TB TMers making all kinds of happy talk about anything but the financial crisis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Do horse wink and pale in? ; )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whore_of_Babylon Carde, You haven't stated what your opinion is about the subject. Let us know and we can respond accordingly. Nonetheless, the subject is very interesting and mysterious. I think it's kinda worrying that someone tries to become the VP of the USA by using some antics(?) of cheap whores... Psst, we have a few Palin supporters in this forum. They may not like what you're saying.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Too pornographic for a Victorian(?) translator? :D
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
All right, cardemaister, don't be coy -
how would those verses read if they had
not been bowdlerized?
na seshe yasya rambate 'ntaraa sakthyaa kapRt
sed iishe yasya romashaM niSeduSo vijRmbhate [vishvasmaad
indra uttaraH]
na seshe yasya romashaM niSeduSo vijRmbhate
sed iishe yasya rambate 'ntaraa sakthyaa kapRd [vishvasmaad
indra uttaraH]
Let's suppose that the sandhi-vigraha for 'seshe' is 'sa iishe'.
According to Monier-Williams, the verb 'iish' in Rgveda means
at least 'belong to'. Thus the first line *might* mean
something like 'he (Indra?) doesn't belong to someone
whose (yasya) dick (kapRt) is hanging (rambate)'. I don't
try to translate 'antaraa sakthyaa' because it doesn't seem
to add that much into the general meaning, but 'sakthyaa'
probably is instrumental singular from 'sakthi':
sakthi n. (derivation doubtful ; the base %{saktha4n} [fr. which acc.
pl. %{sakthAni} RV. v , 61 , 3] appears in later language only in the
weakest cases e.g. sg. instr. %{sakthnA4} gen. abl. %{sakthna4s} loc.
%{saktha4ni} , or %{sakthni4} cf. Pa1n2. 7-1 , 75 ; there occurs also
nom. acc. du. %{sakthyau4} [RV. x , 86 , 16 AV. vi , 9 , 1] formed fr.
a fem. base %{sakthI4}) , ***the thigh , thigh-bone*** ; the pole or
shafts of a cart (du. euphemistically ` the female organ ') RV. c. c.
The second line *could* mean 'he (Indra?) belongs to [a man]
whose dick becomes erect (vijRmbhate) near (niSeduSaH; cf.
'upa-*ni-Sad*': ~sitting near) a cunt (romasham; literally:
a hairy one). That doesn't feel a very good translation,
but the general meaning almost certainly is something
like that.
But the second verse seems to turn the whole thing
upside down, so to speak. Just read it carefully, and
you might notice that yourselves...
'vishvasmaad indra uttaraH' is a slogan repeated at
the end of each verse, I believe.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Abstract: The effects of SILLY Syndrome on FFL reading time
TurquoiseB wrote: None of the people were discussing any of the movies at the festival. Sadly, there really hasn't been that much to discuss yet. :-) Probably due to the writer's strike which put a lot of garbage on screens that would not have been greenlit otherwise. The point is that these were distinctly non- spiritual types finding positive things to talk about, whereas the supposedly-spiritual people on FFL seemingly can't. I'm sorry, but there is something wrong with that picture. They were probably just being polite. After all, the etiquette rule in the US is often that we don't discuss politics and religion which might be considered odd in other countries such as India. I would suspect they are movie buffs or artsy types. A lot my artsy friends can't discuss politics or economics either. The latter is something that I boned up in the late 1970s reading major economists of the times and past. But then this morning when I got out of my car at Starbucks I could hear a table where one friend was sitting discussing politics and Obama. I've suspected that these folks are a bit to the right of me (the discussion seemed anti-Obama). I wish a couple weeks back when there was a Democatic Party voter registration table set up outside of Trader Joe's that I had stopped by and asked to buy a button or bumper sticker or possibly a t-shirt. Unlike years past there are no campaign headquarters in every little town so it looks like I'll have to order online. I already donated to the campaign but didn't get even a bumper sticker. BTW, mostly around here I find Obama bumper stickers and I don't recall seeing a McCain one yet. I may even put a sign out front here but I'll also put up a fake security camera trained on it too. :-D Negativity is just a point of view. I find discussing the downtown in the economy which was easy to predict quite fascinating. If you're a tantric you confront negativity head on, not run from it. The ability to do that is part of the tantric toolkit. And if we tried to discuss only positive things here, you know that FFL would degenerate quickly into a bliss ninny forum and there are plenty of those already. What probably is most tiring on FFL are the people who would even consider someone as lame as Palin for VP. Gotta agree with you there. It's on the level of someone considering Beavis and Butthead for President. Even *George W. Bush* is smarter than Sarah Palin! It shows you how far America has fallen. It is like it is on its deathbed. No, just drugged to stupefaction. Deathbed is too histrionic. :-) Time will tell but I wouldn't be surprised for various reasons. One as Jefferson pointed out this country needed to reinvent itself probably several times over the last 232 years with a new constitution. Of course then we may have wound up with something like national socialism if the business leaders of the 1930's had their way. The change appears global and if you follow the patterns that are occurring right now it appears there is a grab to create a corporate run global government. We would hope that the majority of Americans (which seems to be the trend) will vote against the Republican folly running for office. We would hope. No telling, though. If you think there is a lot of vitriol on FFL now just watch if McCain and the Palinut gets elected. I know I'll ramp mine up 1000%. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Keating Economics: John McCain The Making of a Financial Crisis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g72BuIvMbWY
[FairfieldLife] Re: Abstract: The effects of SILLY Syndrome on FFL reading time
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Negativity is just a point of view. I find discussing the downtown [I assume you mean downturn] in the economy which was easy to predict quite fascinating. If you're a tantric you confront negativity head on, not run from it. The ability to do that is part of the tantric toolkit. I agree, but the thing is you have *range*. You can discuss the negative POV on something one minute, and the positive POV on that same thing or another thing the next. The people I'm speaking about don't seem to be able to do that. And if we tried to discuss only positive things here, you know that FFL would degenerate quickly into a bliss ninny forum and there are plenty of those already. Now you're sounding like Judy Stien. I mean, really...that's the sort of dualistic either/or bullshit she would come up with. Again, it's an issue of *range*. I don't think anyone here could accuse Rick of being a bliss- ninny. He can see and discuss the positive side of things *without* being a blissninny. So can many others here. Others seem to believe that it really IS a choice between always being negative and being an insipid, TM-style blissninny. It isn't. That may be *their* only choices, and they've chosen to constantly go negative because they prefer that to the only alternative they can see (being a blissninny). But obviously these are not the only two choices, because others here have managed to find a balance.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kimbo Knocked Out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Oy vay! Kimbo got knocked out in 14 seconds by an out of shape third tier dude called in at the last second to fight him. He charged-in with his head totally exposed and caught a glancing chopping right and went down. Just pathetic. Does Kimbo even train? Real novice mistake. Pathetic. did you see it Curtis? Kimbo is like a biblical goliath. In other words, he's a dud. I had it taped so I just saw it. I love having free mixed martial arts on network TV! This sport has arrived. Lots of great fights with Gina Carrano once again legitimizing woman's MMA. The high level of tactical skill in her fight made the Kimbo fiasco look like a badly matched school yard brawl. Kimbo is like the old school UFC freak show days. I still like to see a few of them sprinkled in with the super high technical skills of the modern MMA fighter. It has it's own excitement value for me. And not to rile up the sleeping Off, but it was a short karate style punch that stunned Kimbo. Of course Kimbo's lack of any boxing technique made the absurd punch possible, but it did knock him right down. The punch was all arm, no shoulder-body power punch. Kimbo just doesn't have the skills to compete with more well-rounded fighters. He would be better off in pro wrestling IMO.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Naomi Wolf on the October 1st Coup
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend wrote: snip I said he *apparently* misunderstood. That's my own conclusion, based on (1) the fact that the procedural maneuver I described, known as martial law, *was* threatened by the Democratic leadership; and (2) that the idea anybody would threaten *full-scale* martial law if the House didn't pass the bill is obvious tinfoil-hat nonsense. Now folks tell me in the statement two paragraphs up where you see that says that's her conclusion? She does not. She makes it look like she found an article somewhere with that information. Uh, no, that was your misapprehension. This is what you said: I Googled it and found a clip of Sherman's statement. As it turns out, he was reporting the alleged threat second hand, and apparently misunderstood it. The House leadership *did* threaten a legislative procedure known as martial law which suspends a provision in the House rules that legislation can't be voted on the same day it's introduced, to enable a bill to be passed immediately. If you wanted to make it more clear since you are an editor you could have said: As it turns out, he was reporting the alleged threat second hand, and *I believe he* apparently misunderstood it. However his words were: martial law in America not martial law in the house. And if he did misunderstand I think he would have issued a disclaimer by now. And has anybody heard of this martial law provision she speaks of? I certainly haven't. You mean Wolf didn't mention it? http://www.cbpp.org/7-28-06bud-stmt.htm And if this house rule had been the case it would have been part of the headlines that day. But it wasn't. Note Sherman says the information was provided in confidence so he cannot reveal the sources. No, that isn't what he said. He said conversations one member has with another on the House floor are not supposed to be made public unless the other member gives permission. That's just a general rule, a bit of protocol. Oh come on now, I paraphrased him. Same thing. And he did *not* say, contrary to Alex Jones's misquote, that the folks who were talking about this said they had been *told* there would be martial law. Rather, they were speculating on their own hook about the worst that might happen, as I went on to suggest might have been the case. Here's what he said they were saying: The market would drop by 4000 points, blood would flow in the streets, and lions would be devouring children in the parks of Los Angeles. I know that some comments like that were made. I didn't take them seriously. I know some would. I thought it was just overblown effort to create a panic in order to pass a bad bill. Of course they're going to say things like this because they were being pressured into rushing a bill to passage. One which needed a good couple of weeks of debate. It's really a very funny interview. Jones is trying to get Sherman to say something sensational, and Sherman is amused by this and repeatedly tries to calm Jones down. A little later Jones tries to get him to say the Dow dropping 770 points was a form of terrorism. Sherman responds: They didn't say they'd shoot anybody, so usually terrorism involves threats of violence. And whether a drop in the Dow is violent or not, I mean, I'm sure somebody had a heart attack when the market dropped a few hundred points. He was very wry about the whole thing. He clearly thought Jones was a nutcase. Jones is a shock jock but he gets a lot of things right. Let me make another point in that Senator Dianne Feinstein flipped a lot of her opinions after she had a private meeting with Bush a while back. What did Bush say (she won't tell us) that scared her so? That the economy is in *really really bad shape*, obviously. snip It's not impossible, I suppose, that somebody at some point said that if the bill wasn't passed and the economy completely collapsed, civil disorder might ultimately develop and that martial law would need to be declared to keep the country from falling into anarchy. But that wouldn't be a *threat*, it would be a speculation on what might *eventually* be the consequences--which certainly wasn't the impression Sherman gave. I'll agree there but I don't think Sherman would have made the statements found on C-SPAN and YouTube (links I posted here the other day) if that were the case. I just listened to him again on the House floor, and in fact he was talking about what members were saying to one another, as I said above, not that there was some threat issued from on high about martial law. He was just annoyed by the panic atmosphere. Obviously some of the members were overdoing it. And that it was fear mongering. They were being pressured into passing
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rape Victim
Recently there was a show on television where the mother did not want anything to do with her child because she was forced to keep the child after she had been raped by a family member. --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rape Victim To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 1:10 PM John posted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IS0PJdE0Cs A person is either for abortion or against. There is no middle ground. If you are against abortion and pro life then to allow abortion for rape is still killing a person. There is no way to get out of this dilemma. Pro life says, every conception must go to term and deliver, no exceptions. Otherwise it is not about pro-life or choice. It is just a matter of drawing a line in the sand. - David http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IS0PJdE0Cs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Global Stock Market Tanks
To All: Fear and herd mentality have gripped investors in the global market. However, if one is brave enough, there may be a good opportunity to buy stocks at a bargain when the dust settles in Wall Street. *** Stocks plummet in global market rout Mon Oct 6, 2008 2:35pm EDT By Kristina Cooke NEW YORK (Reuters) - Stocks slid more than 6 percent on Monday, with the Dow diving to its lowest level in almost five years, on fears the global economy was hurtling into recession despite government efforts to contain the fast-spreading financial crisis. Wall Street's drop was part of a global sell-off, and as severe as the U.S. losses were, they paled in comparison to sharp declines across Europe and in emerging markets. In Russia, Brazil and Peru, trading was temporarily suspended. The emergency rescue of two big European banks and a move by several European governments to guarantee bank deposits intensified fears of a potential global recession. The sharp drop came in the first session since the U.S. Congress approved a $700 billion bailout of the financial industry. Financial services stocks led the sell-off, with the SP's financial sub-index down 8 percent. Energy companies' shares plummeted as the price of oil dropped to an 8-month low below $90 a barrel on expectations the growing financial crisis will further slow already faltering global fuel demand. The economy, the global economy is a worry, with credit tight and everyone hoarding cash, said Neil Massa, senior U.S. trader at MFC Global Investment Management. The global markets are worse than even we are and that's not good news for any companies that depend on the overseas markets. The Dow Jones industrial average fell 711.01 points, or 6.89 percent, to 9,614.37. It is the first time the Dow has traded below 9,700 for the first time since November 2003. Continued...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Do horse wink and pale in? ; )
I like that phrase, Carde. Winking like a cheap whore. That's Sarah. She has no gravitas. Can you imagine her addressing the nation from the White House: My fellow Americans (WINK) I have been informed by my spiritual advisor that Iran is the anti-Christ. (WINK) I have therefore ordered a nuclear attack on Iran. Within the next hour, Iran, the anti-Christ, will be completely annihilated. (WINK) That's what happens when you put an ignorant Christianist cheerleader in the White House. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whore_of_Babylon Carde, You haven't stated what your opinion is about the subject. Let us know and we can respond accordingly. Nonetheless, the subject is very interesting and mysterious. I think it's kinda worrying that someone tries to become the VP of the USA by using some antics(?) of cheap whores...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
shempmcgurk wrote: Vaj, why couldn't there be a third possibility, such as THAT NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN? Why is it that the only possibilities had to be something catastrophic? And to now say, as you do, that the two possibilities were the two extremes -- extreme hot or extreme cold -- my gosh, I'm not a scientist but I think I'm on safe ground when I say that THAT is wacky and kooky stuff and not something that can be called science. How does that definition of science go? That something is only known when it occurs as predicted as a repeatable experiment? Well, you can't postulate two wildly opposite outcomes and claim it to be science. That's religion (actually, it's more like a cult). Shemp, don't you think its good to err on the side of caution and do some things about protecting the environment rather than continuing on mindlessly? Even some of the folks who hate all these carbon tax initiatives think its a good idea to conserve the environment. Note the word conserve. So we can guess you're not much of a conservative. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Dow Drops 800 Points
NEW YORK Wall Street suffered through another traumatic session Monday, with the Dow Jones industrials plunging as much as 800 points and setting a new record for a one-day point drop as investors despaired that the credit crisis would take a heavy toll around the world. The Dow also fell below 10,000 for the first time since 2004, and all the major indexes fell about 5 percent. The catalyst for the selling was the growing realization that the Bush administration's $700 billion rescue plan and steps taken by other governments won't work quickly to unfreeze the credit markets. Moreover, investors are increasingly unnerved by the paralysis in the credit markets that has started to affect companies trying to borrow for acquisitions or just to conduct their daily operations. That sent stocks spiraling downward in the U.S., Europe and Asia, and drove investors to sink money into the relative safety of U.S. government debt. Fears about a global recession also caused oil to drop below $90 a barrel. The fact is, people are scared and the only thing they're doing is selling, said Ryan Detrick, senior technical strategist at Schaeffer's Investment Research. Investors are cleaning out portfolios and getting rid of everything because nothing seems to be working. The selling was so extreme that only 107 stocks rose on the NYSE _ and 3,121 dropped. That's a telling sign considering the stock market is considered a leading economic indicator, with investors tending to buy and sell based on where they believe the economy will be in six to nine months. Monday's stock trading extended what has been an extraordinary stretch of volatility, in which triple-digit drops in the Dow are becoming almost commonplace. The steep decline indicates that investors are becoming more convinced that the country is leading a prolonged economic crisis that is spreading to other nations. Over the weekend, governments across Europe rushed to prop up failing banks, while the governments of Germany, Ireland and Greece also said they would guarantee bank deposits. Full article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/wall-street-tumbles-amid_n_132186.html http://tinyurl.com/3uc552
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dow Drops 800 Points
It closed down only -365 points. I suspect in the closing hours some folks realized some bargains were to be had. ;-) do.rflex wrote: NEW YORK — Wall Street suffered through another traumatic session Monday, with the Dow Jones industrials plunging as much as 800 points and setting a new record for a one-day point drop as investors despaired that the credit crisis would take a heavy toll around the world. The Dow also fell below 10,000 for the first time since 2004, and all the major indexes fell about 5 percent. The catalyst for the selling was the growing realization that the Bush administration's $700 billion rescue plan and steps taken by other governments won't work quickly to unfreeze the credit markets. Moreover, investors are increasingly unnerved by the paralysis in the credit markets that has started to affect companies trying to borrow for acquisitions or just to conduct their daily operations. That sent stocks spiraling downward in the U.S., Europe and Asia, and drove investors to sink money into the relative safety of U.S. government debt. Fears about a global recession also caused oil to drop below $90 a barrel. The fact is, people are scared and the only thing they're doing is selling, said Ryan Detrick, senior technical strategist at Schaeffer's Investment Research. Investors are cleaning out portfolios and getting rid of everything because nothing seems to be working. The selling was so extreme that only 107 stocks rose on the NYSE _ and 3,121 dropped. That's a telling sign considering the stock market is considered a leading economic indicator, with investors tending to buy and sell based on where they believe the economy will be in six to nine months. Monday's stock trading extended what has been an extraordinary stretch of volatility, in which triple-digit drops in the Dow are becoming almost commonplace. The steep decline indicates that investors are becoming more convinced that the country is leading a prolonged economic crisis that is spreading to other nations. Over the weekend, governments across Europe rushed to prop up failing banks, while the governments of Germany, Ireland and Greece also said they would guarantee bank deposits. Full article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/wall-street-tumbles-amid_n_132186.html http://tinyurl.com/3uc552 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 30 Lies Refuted About Ayers And Obama
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-k-wilson/30-lies-refuted-about-aye_b_132109.html http://tinyurl.com/4em287
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Well, you can't postulate two wildly opposite outcomes and claim it to be science. Actually, you can postulate an infinite number of wildly different outcomes and claim it to be science. Ever heard of Quantum Mechanics? Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Abstract: The effects of SILLY Syndrome on FFL reading time
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you think there is a lot of vitriol on FFL now just watch if McCain and the Palinut gets elected. I know I'll ramp mine up 1000%. ;-) The americans, in their greed and ignorance, filled with young aggressive souls so dear to Maharishi who sought to save them from selfdestruction, are dragging the world into an economic Armageddon not seen in perhaps 10,000 years. To prevent this, very likely, was one of His primary objectives. Perhaps He failed, but no one can claim He did not try. Yet what all these, for decades non-checked FFL people, spurred into action by Rick Archer, the great liar; claiming to be on a spiritual path though most are simple bragging materialists, partime Buddhists and hedonists, are ranting about who is going to be VP in a doomed, capitalistic country ! It says it all really. Get a checking, get a grip of reality, look around; everything you hold dear is about to vanish under your unchecked, Master-denouncing feet. If you had even the smallest ability to at least read; since years Maharishi told you the simple truth; Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism. I have no illusions that americans on this list will take this seriously. They will rather continue to rant on about Palin or other gossip. And then capitalism and the USA as you know it will simply be gone.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Naomi Wolf on the October 1st Coup
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend wrote: snip And has anybody heard of this martial law provision she speaks of? I certainly haven't. You mean Wolf didn't mention it? http://www.cbpp.org/7-28-06bud-stmt.htm And if this house rule had been the case it would have been part of the headlines that day. But it wasn't. Nobody said it was the case. It was *threatened*, remember? Note Sherman says the information was provided in confidence so he cannot reveal the sources. No, that isn't what he said. He said conversations one member has with another on the House floor are not supposed to be made public unless the other member gives permission. That's just a general rule, a bit of protocol. Oh come on now, I paraphrased him. Same thing. Not in this context. It's the difference between some very important word being given to Sherman in secret, and members flapping their gums irresponsibly on the House floor. He didn't want to embarrass whoever had been indulging in absurd hyperbole about blood in the streets and lions eating children in Los Angeles parks. He wasn't darkly warning that the administration was planning to impose martial law if the bill wasn't passed; he was complaining about members who were trying to gin up panic. BIG difference. And he did *not* say, contrary to Alex Jones's misquote, that the folks who were talking about this said they had been *told* there would be martial law. Rather, they were speculating on their own hook about the worst that might happen, as I went on to suggest might have been the case. Here's what he said they were saying: The market would drop by 4000 points, blood would flow in the streets, and lions would be devouring children in the parks of Los Angeles. I know that some comments like that were made. I didn't take them seriously. I know some would. I thought it was just overblown effort to create a panic in order to pass a bad bill. Of course they're going to say things like this because they were being pressured into rushing a bill to passage. One which needed a good couple of weeks of debate. But which also needed to be passed much more quickly than that. Nobody's claiming people weren't hitting the panic button. The issue is whether the members were threatened by the leadership or the White House with full-scale martial law if they didn't pass the bill, as your initial claim suggested: Wolf raises issues with the bailout and the threat of martial law if the bill didn't get passed (a totally unacceptable threat, people) That appears not to have been the case. There was no unacceptable threat, merely members speculating wildly about what might happen at some point in the future if there was widespread civil disorder as a result of complete economic collapse. snip I just listened to him again on the House floor, and in fact he was talking about what members were saying to one another, as I said above, not that there was some threat issued from on high about martial law. He was just annoyed by the panic atmosphere. Obviously some of the members were overdoing it. And that it was fear mongering. They were being pressured into passing the bill. Right. But not by an administration threat to impose martial law if they didn't. Two things scared them: the Dow's plunge after they failed to pass the bill, and the fact that all of a sudden the calls they were getting from constituents were denouncing them for *not* passing the bill, because of the damage the plunge did to people's 401(K)s. The stock market goes up and down like a yo-yo. Not 770 points in one day, it doesn't. It's big news if it goes down a couple of hundred points. This was a shocker. Not really, its the knee jerk of the Wall Street Casino. It was a much bigger knee jerk than anybody was comfortable with. It went down over 700 points again today. And barring a calamity it will probably recover a bit this week. If not then the bailout really as I claimed anyway a fiasco. It was clearly to bailout the rich and not the public. That's a different issue altogether. There's very legitimate fear that the economy is going to collapse completely, globally, and nobody wants that to happen, obviously. snip And do you really think they read (and understood) all 451+ pages? How do you get that from what I wrote? Judy, that was a question. A rhetorical question. Do you really think... assumes the answer is yes. snip But this is the Bush administration. Remember all of those executive orders he put into effect? I wouldn't trust them with anything. I don't trust them either, but some things are just impossibly loony. It wouldn't make *sense* to impose martial law unless there were some real threat of civil disorder. People in this country are such apathetic boobs that I
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oldest 'Footprints' on Earth Found
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Oct. 5) - The oldest-known tracks of a creature apparently using legs have been discovered in rock dated to 570 million years ago in what was once a shallow sea in Nevada. Scientists think land beasts evolved from ancient creatures that left the sea and evolved lungs and legs. If the new finding is real the discoverer says it will fuel skepticism it pushes the advent of walking back 30 million years earlier than any previous solid finding. The aquatic creature left its footprints as two parallel rows of small dots, each about 2 millimeters in diameter. Scientists said today that the animal must have stepped lightly onto the soft marine sediment, because its legs only pressed shallow pinpoints into that long-ago sea bed. http://news.aol.com/article/oldest-footprints-on-earth-found/200822? icid=100214839x1211170709x1200675227 In related news, Sarah Palin reacted to this find by suggesting that the fossilized footprints were much more recent, from 1970, and show the first conclusive evidence that Barrack Obama was directly involved in the Pentagon bombing with his pal and fellow terrorist Bill Ayers. Said Palin, The tiny size of the footprints is because Obama was only eight years old at the time, but even at that early age his Muslim, anti-American, terrorist tendencies were becoming manifest. It's indicative of the low level of consciousness in the U.S. that these young earth ideas are considered viable by so many people, even candidates for national office. Obama and Biden are certainly no brain surgeons, but they look positively brilliant compared to the old coot and the hillbilly... For those FFL subcribers who actually live in FF, check out the Devonian Gorge just north of Iowa City -- it's amazing to see 375 million year old fossils right there in front of God and everybody: http://www.igsb.uiowa.edu/browse/spillway/spillway.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Naomi Wolf on the October 1st Coup
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend wrote: snip And has anybody heard of this martial law provision she speaks of? I certainly haven't. You mean Wolf didn't mention it? http://www.cbpp.org/7-28-06bud-stmt.htm And if this house rule had been the case it would have been part of the headlines that day. But it wasn't. Nobody said it was the case. It was *threatened*, remember? So? It still would have been reported. Note Sherman says the information was provided in confidence so he cannot reveal the sources. No, that isn't what he said. He said conversations one member has with another on the House floor are not supposed to be made public unless the other member gives permission. That's just a general rule, a bit of protocol. Oh come on now, I paraphrased him. Same thing. Not in this context. It's the difference between some very important word being given to Sherman in secret, and members flapping their gums irresponsibly on the House floor. He didn't want to embarrass whoever had been indulging in absurd hyperbole about blood in the streets and lions eating children in Los Angeles parks. I disagree. He wasn't darkly warning that the administration was planning to impose martial law if the bill wasn't passed; he was complaining about members who were trying to gin up panic. BIG difference. I don't think so. And he did *not* say, contrary to Alex Jones's misquote, that the folks who were talking about this said they had been *told* there would be martial law. Rather, they were speculating on their own hook about the worst that might happen, as I went on to suggest might have been the case. Here's what he said they were saying: The market would drop by 4000 points, blood would flow in the streets, and lions would be devouring children in the parks of Los Angeles. I know that some comments like that were made. I didn't take them seriously. I know some would. I thought it was just overblown effort to create a panic in order to pass a bad bill. Of course they're going to say things like this because they were being pressured into rushing a bill to passage. One which needed a good couple of weeks of debate. But which also needed to be passed much more quickly than that. Nobody's claiming people weren't hitting the panic button. The issue is whether the members were threatened by the leadership or the White House with full-scale martial law if they didn't pass the bill, as your initial claim suggested: Wolf raises issues with the bailout and the threat of martial law if the bill didn't get passed (a totally unacceptable threat, people) That appears not to have been the case. There was no unacceptable threat, merely members speculating wildly about what might happen at some point in the future if there was widespread civil disorder as a result of complete economic collapse. Actually then you too ARE saying it is an unacceptable threat if we examine your logic here. Either that or you think it is just fine for the administration to impose martial law whenever they want. Besides we don't really know for sure that the threat wasn't issued. That is unless you are now in business as Madame Stein Your Psychic Consultant. :-D snip I just listened to him again on the House floor, and in fact he was talking about what members were saying to one another, as I said above, not that there was some threat issued from on high about martial law. He was just annoyed by the panic atmosphere. Obviously some of the members were overdoing it. And that it was fear mongering. They were being pressured into passing the bill. Right. But not by an administration threat to impose martial law if they didn't. You don't know that for sure. Two things scared them: the Dow's plunge after they failed to pass the bill, and the fact that all of a sudden the calls they were getting from constituents were denouncing them for *not* passing the bill, because of the damage the plunge did to people's 401(K)s. The stock market goes up and down like a yo-yo. Not 770 points in one day, it doesn't. It's big news if it goes down a couple of hundred points. This was a shocker. Not really, its the knee jerk of the Wall Street Casino. It was a much bigger knee jerk than anybody was comfortable with. Unless you anticipated it. It went down over 700 points again today. And barring a calamity it will probably recover a bit this week. If not then the bailout really as I claimed anyway a fiasco. It was clearly to bailout the rich and not the public. That's a different issue altogether. There's very legitimate fear that the economy is going to collapse completely, globally, and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Abstract: The effects of SILLY Syndrome on FFL reading time
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if we tried to discuss only positive things here, you know that FFL would degenerate quickly into a bliss ninny forum and there are plenty of those already. Now you're sounding like Judy Stien. I mean, really...that's the sort of dualistic either/or bullshit she would come up with. I don't think Judy is even that black and white about things. :-D Again, it's an issue of *range*. I don't think anyone here could accuse Rick of being a bliss- ninny. He can see and discuss the positive side of things *without* being a blissninny. So can many others here. Others seem to believe that it really IS a choice between always being negative and being an insipid, TM-style blissninny. It isn't. That may be *their* only choices, and they've chosen to constantly go negative because they prefer that to the only alternative they can see (being a blissninny). But obviously these are not the only two choices, because others here have managed to find a balance. I guess it depends on what you want to read. I think you see humor as a positive POV. Sometimes that humor (as your Palin remark this morning was and I often do the same thing) was intended to push somebody's buttons. But this is just a chat forum so it flow where it wants to go regardless of what we say. Besides the charter says that pretty much anything goes and that includes talking about the dark side of things.
[FairfieldLife] You just can't make this stuff up...
The smell of desperation is in the air... Here (.pdf) is a newspaper column from Bobby May, the McCain campaign chair in Buchanan County, Virginia and correspondence secretary for the Buchanan County Republican Party, warning that the platform of Barack Hussein Obama includes: Illegal Immigration: Learn to Speak Spanish; Terrorist Threat to America: Learn to Speak Arabic; (You know, I can really understand why this would hit a nerve with many Republicans, since a lot of them can barely speak English.) Reparations to Black Community: Opposes before Election Day and supports after Election Day; Freedom of Religion: Mandatory Black Liberation Theology courses taught in all churches; Homosexual Marriage: Coddle sexual perverts. Give tax breaks for NAMBLA membership; Drug Crisis: Raise taxes for free drugs for Obama's inner-city political base; (And, my personal favorite...) The White House: Hire rapper Ludacris to paint it black. http://tinyurl.com/4eakjm
[FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The smell of desperation is in the air... Here (.pdf) is a newspaper column from Bobby May, the McCain campaign chair in Buchanan County, Virginia and correspondence secretary for the Buchanan County Republican Party, warning that the platform of Barack Hussein Obama includes: Illegal Immigration: Learn to Speak Spanish; Terrorist Threat to America: Learn to Speak Arabic; (You know, I can really understand why this would hit a nerve with many Republicans, since a lot of them can barely speak English.) Reparations to Black Community: Opposes before Election Day and supports after Election Day; Freedom of Religion: Mandatory Black Liberation Theology courses taught in all churches; Homosexual Marriage: Coddle sexual perverts. Give tax breaks for NAMBLA membership; Drug Crisis: Raise taxes for free drugs for Obama's inner-city political base; (And, my personal favorite...) The White House: Hire rapper Ludacris to paint it black. http://tinyurl.com/4eakjm * I just finished a book on Aaron Burr, VP under Thomas Jefferson (Fallen Founder, by Isenberg). In the various campaigns in the 1800s, Burr was labeled as being gay, along with a host of other noncredible accusations (this was before he shot Hamilton in the duel, which stirred up even more stuff against him), so frantic accusations are nothing new in American politics, and they help to stir up the base, even if they don't change any minds. ...slander without proof was pretty much the order of the day. http://tinyurl.com/4p73zw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Naomi Wolf on the October 1st Coup
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend wrote: snip Anyway, my mistake to even engage in a conversation about this when you won't watch Wolf's video to see how this was discussed and apparently only hold a virtual opinion. I haven't commented on anything Wolf said. You said she said something about Sherman, so I went and found out what Sherman said. It's up to you to decide whether she represented it correctly. That's a cop out. Uh, no, it's not. I never challenged her; I challenged *you*. For all I know, she explained it as I did, and you misinterpreted what she said. All you have to do is go watch her video and you will no longer be a blind woman describing an elephant or a critic reviewing a movie she hasn't seen. You know, Bhairitu, whenever you're challenged on anything, you become a dishonest asshole. Now you're trying to recycle long-discredited stupidities of Barry's to use against me, when they're even *less* applicable than his were. Let me type this very slowly: I NEVER COMMENTED ON WHAT WOLF SAID. Do you see the words above, For all I know? Please consult Mr. Dictionary for any that you're unfamiliar with. I don't *care* what Wolf said. I'm not interested in what she thought. I went to the *source*, Rep. Sherman, to see what he had *actually* said. I watched the movie and saw the elephant, instead of listening to a review and a description from Wolf. So stuff it. You're as dishonest as any Republican, and not even as adept at it as most.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
On Oct 6, 2008, at 4:41 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Well, you can't postulate two wildly opposite outcomes and claim it to be science. Actually, you can postulate an infinite number of wildly different outcomes and claim it to be science. Ever heard of Quantum Mechanics? Aren't you confusing probabilities as used in quantum physics with actual, more Newtonian outcomes?
[FairfieldLife] Nearly 1/4 of World's Mammals Face Extinction
Nearly a quarter of the world's land mammal species are at risk of extinction, and many others may vanish before they are even known to science, according to a major annual survey of global wildlife. At least 1,141 of the 5,487 known species of mammal are threatened, with 188 listed in the highest risk critically endangered category. One in three marine mammals are also threatened, according to the five year review. The red list assessment, conducted by the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN), involved more than 1,700 experts in 130 countries, and confirms the devastating impact of forest clearing, hunting, fisheries, pollution and climate change on the populations and ranges of the world's most studied class of animals. Jan Schipper, the director of the global mammals assessment, a partnership between Conservation International and the IUCN, called for countries to be held responsible for the fate of fauna within their borders and the establishment of an international coalition to save species that cross national boundaries. We're looking at a 25% decline over the long term, yet for mammals there is no bail out plan. There is no long term conservation strategy that is going to prevent species extinction in the future, he said. As human beings, we should be ensuring that we don't cause other species to go extinct. Disturbingly, the figures are likely to be a conservative estimate, because scientists have insufficient data on 836 species to even classify how threatened they are. If these are all at risk, it would mean 36% of the world's mammal species are in danger of becoming extinct. Among the critically endangered species is the Iberian lynx (Lynx pardinus), with only 84 to 143 adults remaining. Experts believe 29 others may already have become extinct, including the Baiji or Yangtze river dolphin, and the little Earth hutia, a small rodent endemic to islands off Cuba, which has not been seen in nearly 40 years. Two species, the Scimitar-horned oryx and Père David's deer are extinct in the wild, and only live on in captivity. Many species, such as the grey wolf and brown bear, have experienced substantial population declines and seen their ranges contract as their natural habitats have been destroyed. More than half of the world's mammal species for which trends are known are in decline, the report found. We are getting far too used to seeing these reports bemoaning the fate of the planet or the decline of animals. I am really concerned that we have become deadened to this sort of depressing information and now simply ignore it without stopping to think about the implications, said Mark Wright, chief scientist at WWF. The IUCN report shows that, with our ill-considered management of the Earth and its resources, we are threatening the future of wildlife and nature and denying our children the chance to experience what we have experienced. The survey, which is published by the journal Science today, identifies extinction hotspots where vast numbers of species are under threat. Typically, these are regions with a rich diversity of species that all face a similar threat to their environment. Threatened land mammals are concentrated in south and south-east Asia. There, a staggering 79% of monkeys and apes face extinction. Other hotspots include the tropical Andes, the Cameroonian highlands, the Albertine rift and the Western Ghats in India. Often, there is habitat loss from deforestation, either for farming or timber, and that leaves the animals living on small patches of land. Then, on top of that, you have hunting, with an enormous number of people who are entirely reliant on natural resources to feed themselves. That has really set up a perfect storm over south-east Asia, said Schipper. The greatest threats to marine mammals are being caught in fishing nets or being struck by shipping vessels, although for the Yangtze river dolphin, pollution is a major contributor. Climate change is already having an impact on amphibians and plant life, but it is expected to put increasing pressure on mammals too, either by destroying their environment, such as the Arctic ice sheets that are home to polar bears, or by forcing their prey elsewhere. Among the most threatened mammals are those only recently discovered. Since 1992, 349 new mammal species have been identified, but 51% of these face extinction, compared with 23% of species known prior to 1992. Species may be vanishing even before they are known to science, the scientists write in the journal. There is a glimmer of hope among the bleak assessment. At least 5% of the currently threatened species now have stable or rising populations, many of which are the focus of huge conservation efforts. Populations of the European bison and black-footed ferret are both recovering. The problem we face is that without the political and public will to spend money on species conservation we are pressed up against the wall, said Schipper.
[FairfieldLife] MCCain: he was for domestic terrorists before he was agin 'em
http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/meet-the-real-mccain/mccain_on_the_issues.html Clinic Violence McCain voted against the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act (FACE), which makes it a crime to forcibly interfere with women's access to reproductive-health facilities. Learn more on NARAL Pro-Choice America's voting record. McCain voted to allow perpetrators of violence or harassment at reproductive-health clinics to avoid paying the fines assessed against them for their illegal acts by declaring bankruptcy. Learn more on NARAL Pro-Choice America's voting record.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Nearly 1/4 of World's Mammals Face Extinction
On Oct 6, 2008, at 7:49 PM, do.rflex wrote: Nearly a quarter of the world's land mammal species are at risk of extinction, and many others may vanish before they are even known to science, according to a major annual survey of global wildlife. I saw this today. As a lifelong naturalist and as an explorer myself (in addition to groups like the Natural Resource Defense Council and the National Geographic Society, among others), I've watched this decline for decades. It's real, as (anecdotally) I've watched it up close and first hand. I first noticed it the vernal pools of my youth which produced many frogs and toads. As kids with family members we were enthralled at seeing their marvelous gelatinous eggs, with hundreds and hundreds of potential children in mere mud puddles. Now it's very rare to ever even glimpse such a thing. I kid you not. You'd be quite lucky to happen upon one cluster. I remember later seeing the first Scientific American which had the news: close-contact reptilians (frogs, salamanders, etc.) were in worldwide decline. I remember cringing and tearing for because it was something I knew, first hand. You couldn't deny it. On the up side, it'd be interesting to hear of new and upcoming species so we're not just focused on the gloom-and-doom scenarios the media hounds just love for copy. It's important to know that new or unknown beings are out there.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The smell of desperation is in the air... Here (.pdf) is a newspaper column from Bobby May, the McCain campaign chair in Buchanan County, Virginia and correspondence secretary for the Buchanan County Republican Party, warning that the platform of Barack Hussein Obama includes: Illegal Immigration: Learn to Speak Spanish; Terrorist Threat to America: Learn to Speak Arabic; (You know, I can really understand why this would hit a nerve with many Republicans, since a lot of them can barely speak English.) Reparations to Black Community: Opposes before Election Day and supports after Election Day; Freedom of Religion: Mandatory Black Liberation Theology courses taught in all churches; Homosexual Marriage: Coddle sexual perverts. Give tax breaks for NAMBLA membership; Drug Crisis: Raise taxes for free drugs for Obama's inner-city political base; (And, my personal favorite...) The White House: Hire rapper Ludacris to paint it black. http://tinyurl.com/4eakjm Obama suggested French, not Arabic, though in fact, French is a good European language to know if you travel in the middle east or africa. For myself, I'd like to get up to at least level 2 or 3 (level 1 is talking like a native acording to the Japanese gov) in Japanese, and then get to the equvalent for Spanish and French (which I studied decades ago) and Arabic and Chinese (Mandarin, probably) and a few other widely used languages. L
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
On Oct 6, 2008, at 7:17 PM, sparaig wrote: Obama suggested French, not Arabic, though in fact, French is a good European language to know if you travel in the middle east or africa. You can have French and Arabic, spare...I'll take Ludacris. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 6, 2008, at 4:41 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] Well, you can't postulate two wildly opposite outcomes and claim it to be science. Actually, you can postulate an infinite number of wildly different outcomes and claim it to be science. Ever heard of Quantum Mechanics? Aren't you confusing probabilities as used in quantum physics with actual, more Newtonian outcomes? Um IF the outcomes can't be actual, than the probability would be zero, rather than incredibly small. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Naomi Wolf on the October 1st Coup
Lemme just finish up with Bhairitu here: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip And has anybody heard of this martial law provision she speaks of? I certainly haven't. Note that Bhairitu had never heard of the martial law provision of the House rules and doubted that it existed. So I proved it to him: You mean Wolf didn't mention it? http://www.cbpp.org/7-28-06bud-stmt.htm Now that he knows it exists, he insists that if it had been threatened, it would have been in the headlines: And if this house rule had been the case it would have been part of the headlines that day. But it wasn't. Nobody said it was the case. It was *threatened*, remember? So? It still would have been reported. Here's Rep. Michael Burgess explaining what happened to Alex Jones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTM7kuVrf0I Want to call Burgess a liar? Bhairitu claims (incorrectly) that the House martial law provision could not have been threatened because the threat would have been reported. OK, now look at this: And that it was fear mongering. They were being pressured into passing the bill. Right. But not by an administration threat to impose martial law if they didn't. You don't know that for sure. A threat of martial law over the entire country wasn't reported either, even though that would have been *vastly* more inflammatory than the threat of invoking the House procedure--but Bhairitu still claims it's possible that national martial law *was* threatened. And he wants us to take his dire prognostications and conspiracy theories seriously! He's a bubblehead. There's no other word for it. On a par with Sarah Palin.
[FairfieldLife] Nine Days and the economic transformation
-- Hi Everyone! Hope you are all enjoying the Nine Days of Mother Divine. Maharishi said these are the best days of the year to imbibe the power of the Transcendent. The final day is the 8th and Victory Day is the 9th. Our upside down world is getting turned right side up! Here are some brilliant thoughts on the economic crisis from our Prime Minister. I'm sending them around because with the constant media bombardment, the simple truths of the situation are easily obscured. The enlightened perspective is always so refreshing... All love and Jai Guru Dev, Victor Maharishi's comments on the economy quoted by Bevan Morris Dear Friends, These very nice comments come from notes that someone took during a talk by Dr. Bevan Morris on September 24 on the Maharishi Channel regarding the financial events in the U.S. (This is NOT a word for word transcript, but it has the main ideas.) Best wishes, Thierry Jai Guru Dev ~~~ Our organization has what we call the World Financial Capital at 70 Broad Street in Manhattan, just a hundred yards from the New York Stock Exchange. From there we went with Dr. John Hagelin to Greenwich Connecticut to meet with Ray Dalio* and 75 other very important members of the financial community to give a lecture about the benefits of TM. [Note these people they met are very rich, Bevan mentioned that their homes ranged from something like $10-30m.] Dr. Fred Travis was also there to present his brain wave research on meditation. After this meeting 40% of the people present expressed the desire to learn TM. With all the turmoil in the markets, the timing of this meeting made our message more important. *[Ray Dalio is an American businessman and hedge fund manager who founded Bridgewater Associates in 1975, a business which manages approximately $160 billion in assets. As of 2007, his net worth was estimated at $4.0 billion. He has been meditating for 35 years, and has been supporting the David Lynch foundation in its mission to teach TM in inner city schools. Now he is strongly encouraging his employees to learn meditation.] Before we acquired the building in Manhattan, Maharishi said that there was something wrong with the financial system in the world. The changing economy means heart palpitations and fear of what will happen. The joy of business is lost in heart palpitations. Everything should be joy. The big banks are always focused on risk. [They say] 'It is too risky, we only invest money where money is.' The result of this is that in countries like Luxembourg, the per capita income is $60,000 per year. The other extreme is in Africa where the per capita income is $3-400 per year. One hundred and fifty times difference between the wealthy and poor countries. Maharishi said this is so wrong. There is a need to restore balance in the world economy. People starve, live with illness, and lack of education. The bankers say, [regarding our efforts to eliminate poverty] 'We can't invest in poverty removal, it is too risky.' At companies like Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers and AIG, it was their business to know what was too risky. They did some things that were horribly risky. There is a great irony in this, in that they put themselves out of existence. In the financial community there is ignorance of responsibility to the world and a sense of superficiality. There is a lack of judgment, investments are made in a fruitless way. The International Monetary Fund and the World Bank actually run countries. Countries cede sovereignty to the World Bank and the IMF. If any country nationalizes a company, this is considered the worst behavior. Some countries are heavily punished. When the government of Mozambique took control of its cashew industry, there was absolute outrage in Washington, free markets are the way, let the market rule... Now in the current financial crisis, the government is nationalizing AIG. The government is doing the same with this bailout. Generally the Republican administration is conservative, let the market reign they say. What they are doing now is a type of socialism. Another irony is that the US is doing the very thing that was done in other countries. This is not going unnoticed. Things are being turned upside down. Things will never be the same. The coherence in consciousness is rising in the US [due to our meditation group in Iowa]. We now have 2000 meditating and flying in Fairfield. Things that are not right have to change, they can't continue. These things happen gradually. If they happened all at once it would be too much. Maharishi always wanted the changes to happen easily and gently. This is what he wanted for our own evolution. In the US it took about two years for the group to rise to 2000, soon the numbers will come up to the target number of 2500. I wish that no one be put into difficulty, I believe that it will all restore itself. When I recently arrived in New York, at our center on Broad street, one
[FairfieldLife] Be Prepared
From a friend: I have been telling some of you about the possibility of a bank holiday coming soon. (The Bank of America already has printed placards to place in their window says they are closed for business.) Here is an audio interview with someone else who is also talking about an impending bank holiday -- very soon. He addresses whether debit cards and credit cards will be operative. http://www.kereport.com/audio/1004-04.mp3 Please stock your pantry, get some cash in your home, refill necessary prescriptions, and keep your gas tank filled. Do this tonight, if you haven't already. Don't panic, don't spread fear...just prepare for a financial ice storm of several days duration. Never mind that the major media are not telling you this...their filters do not allow this kind of information out until after the fact. They told us for months the economy was fine, but then within a week's time they changed their song to crisis. They are incapable of giving us forewarning. Be prepared. Stay in readiness until the storm has passed.
[FairfieldLife] John McCains speech today in Albuquerque, New Mexico
John McCain's speech today in Albuquerque, New Mexico, is one of the best speeches. http://tinyurl.com/4gwk98
[FairfieldLife] Obama File 32
Saturday, September 27, 2008Obama File 32 Toxic Trio! Ayers, Davidson, Klonsky Linked to Pro-Obama OrganisationObama file 31 here http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-file-31-ageing-texan-radicals\ -for.html Barack Obama has tried to minimise his relationship to to former Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) activist and Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers. [BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5250443922356948226] http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JtTfGekhAhY/SN1S7ekxzQI/Bp4/lnLcRVb9J\ B4/s1600-h/032408ayerswilliam.jpg Meanwhile Obama's political opponents have racing the clock to uncover the Senator's links to his radical friend and colleague. I thought I'd try a different tack. Are there any current links between Ayers and organisations supportive of Obama? In this post http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-file-30-former-terrorists-bil\ l.html , I revealed that Ayers's wife and fellow former terrorist Bernadine Dohrn was a board member of Movement for a Democratic Society http://www.movementforademocraticsociety.org/ (MDS)-an alliance of former SDS members and several Marxist organisations. I proved that Ayers also had ties to MDS and that there was a huge membership overlap between MDS and Progressives for Obama http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-file-27-reds-radicals-terrori\ sts.html . This post will confirm Ayers's ties to MDS and his long term and ongoing links to two key pro-Obama activists and former SDS members, Carl Davidson and Mike Klonsky. Carl Davidson has occasionally commented on this blog, criticising my findings on Obama and his radical ties. On this post http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-18-will-obama-be-communi\ st.html from february this year, another commentor Spitfire, called Davidson out; Gee, Carl, why don't you talk a little about your background? ... Make sure you mention your recent relationships with Bill Ayers and Mike Klonsky. Carl Davidson replied... Bill and Mike and I have been friends since the SDS days of the 1960s--although Mike and I bitterly opposed the Weatherunderground nonsense back then when it counted... What's silly is the notion that any of us shape the politics of Barack Obama... Now that that relationship is established, who are Carl Davidson and Mike Klonsky? Carl Davidson Carl Davidson served on the MDS board after its founding in August 2006. He serves as webmaster of Progressives for Obama which he helped found with three fellow MDS board members Bill Fletcher jnr, Tom Hayden and Barbara Ehrenreich. According to Discover the Networks http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2322 Davidson is an American Marxist who serves as a national steering committee member of United for Peace and Justice, a field organizer for the Solidarity Economy Network, and co-chair of Chicagoans Against War Injustice. The latter organization has formed alliances with such groups as the League of Women Voters, Rainbow/PUSH, Citizen Action, People for the American Way, the Progressive Caucus, the Congressional Black Caucus, and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. Aiming ultimately to transform the United States into a socialist nation, Davidson advocates the mobilization of new grassroots majorities required for progressive, systemic change. In 1960s, Davidson was a national secretary of SDS and a key leader of the anti-Vietnam War campaign. With Tom Hayden, Davidson helped launch, in 1969, the Venceremos Brigades, which according to Discover the Networks ...covertly transported hundreds of young Americans to Cuba to help harvest sugar cane and interact with Havana's communist revolutionary leadership. (The Brigades were organized by Fidel Castro's Cuban intelligence agency, which trained brigadistas in guerrilla warfare techniques, including the use of arms and explosives.) After the SDS broke up Davidson became involved in Maoist politics until 1992 when he became a leader of the newly formed Committees of Correspondence (CoC), a Marxist-Leninist coalition of former Maoists, Trotskyists, and former Communist Party USA (CPUSA) members. The organization has since changed its name to the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS). Davidson remains a prominent figure in CCDS alongside several MDS board members including Noam Chomsky and Manning Marable. In the mid-1990s Davidson was a leader of the Chicago branch of the New Party, a Marxist political coalition whose objective was to endorse and elect leftist public officials. Most New Party members were also involved in the COC, the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), or the militant leftist community organization ACORN. Other leaders of the New Party included later MDS board members Bill Fletcher jnr and Barbara Ehrenreich (both DSA leaders and Progressives for Obama founders)and Noam Chomsky and Manning Marable. Obama joined the New Party
[FairfieldLife] Obama File 33
http://tinyurl.com/4gwk98 Tuesday, September 30, 2008 Obama File 33 More Weathermen For ObamaObama File 32 here http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-file-33-troika-key-obama.html\ My last three posts have looked at Movement for a Democratic Society http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-file-30-former-terrorists-bil\ l.html (MDS) and the organisation's relationship to Barack Obama and his campaign. http://tinyurl.com/4e22y2 http://tinyurl.com/4e22y2 [BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5252143194057230402] http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JtTfGekhAhY/SONcaG9ESEI/Bqw/G23EnK4ya\ yw/s1600-h/Weather%2520Underground%2520pic2.png Despite its innocuous sounding name, MDS (founded August 2006) is a coalition of former members of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) its terrorist splinter the Weather Underground and three Marxist organisations, Communist Party USA http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/08/obama-file-21-top-communist-criss.h\ tml (CPUSA), Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Soc http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/08/obama-file-25-ccds-marxist-leninist\ s.html ialism (CCDS) and Democratic Socialists of America http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-file-19-obama-08-all-way-with\ -dsa.html (DSA) Every one of these strands has supported Barack Obama since at least the mid '90s-some even further back. Today many MDS activists are working in the Obama campaign, particularly through the MDS offshoot, Progressives for Obama http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-file-27-reds-radicals-terrori\ sts.html . Much as been written about the links between Barack Obama and his patrons http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/08/obama-file-23-alice-palmer-obamas.h\ tml former Weather Underground terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. I've shown that Dohrn has been an MDS board member, while her husband Ayers is at least an active supporter. That's two known former terrorists involved in MDS, but there are at least three more in the MDS/Progressives for Obama orbit-Jeff Jones, Howie Machtinger and Mark Rudd. Ayers, Dorhn, Jones, Machtinger and Rudd are old revolutionary comrades. In the late '60s the five were key leaders of the faction of (SDS) that split to form the Weather Underground. All attended the famous 1969 Flint War Council that effectiveful gave birth to the Weathermen faction of SDS. All were virulently anti-American in their radical heyday. Bernardine Dohrn has been accused of planting a bomb that killed San Francisco policeman Brian V. McDonnell. When police raided a Weathermen bomb factory in Pine Street San Francisco in 1970, they found the fingerprints of Ayers, Machtinger and Rudd. All are still radicals today and all are proven Obama supporters. This post profiles the three neglected Weathermen in the MDS/Progressives for Obama network-Jones, Machtinger and Rudd. Who is Jeff Jones? According to Jeff Jones's own website http://www.jeffjones-strategies.com/protest.htm Jeff Jones went to his first rally against the Vietnam War in 1965. Within a year, he had quit Antioch College to become a fulltime organizer for Students for a Democratic Society. [BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5251754456423985218] http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JtTfGekhAhY/SOH62ma58EI/BqY/S3L5YBID7\ gU/s1600-h/wantedposter%2520small.jpg In 1966 he traveled to Cambodia to meet with high-level leaders of the NLF. In 1967 and 1968 he served as SDS Regional Organizer for New York City. In 1969, he was elected, along with Bill Ayers and Mark Rudd, to SDS national office. Then, in the spring of 1970, he disappeared. As a leader of the Weather Underground, Jeff evaded an intense FBI manhunt for more than a decade. In 1981, they finally got him. Twenty special agents battered down the door of the Bronx apartment where he was living with his wife and four-year-old son. Jeff Jones serves on the board of MDS. [BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5252141773155226546] http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JtTfGekhAhY/SONbHZroU7I/Bqo/NtZqvgXJY\ Vs/s1600-h/27.jpg Jeff Jones right, at the MDS Conference New York City February 2007 Jeff Jones is also a signed up supporter http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/progressivesforobama/signatures-4.ht\ ml of Progressives for Obama. Who is Howie Machtinger? Today Howard Machtinger is director of Teaching Fellows at the University of North Carolina. According to Frontpage Magazine http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=E8B09219-3E4F-4029-\ 9501-F71B4A368695 Machtinger was on the barricades at Columbia University in 1968 and was one of the founders of the Weather Underground. He co-authored a tome that stated, At the right moment, revolutionaries within the United States were to wage a `people's war' and attack from within. The government would fall and `world Communism' would eventually be instituted. He also spoke about how the black liberation movement is so far advanced at this point that the only thing left for white revolutionaries is to support blacks by
[FairfieldLife] Re: Keating Economics: John McCain The Making of a Financial Crisis
Barack will not be swift boated into defeat. Thank God he and his campaign are fighting back. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g72BuIvMbWY
Re: [FairfieldLife] Nine Days and the economic transformation
On Oct 6, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Hi Everyone! Hope you are all enjoying the Nine Days of Mother Divine. Maharishi said these are the best days of the year to imbibe the power of the Transcendent What else can we imbibe during those days, Rick? Is Coke OK? . The final day is the 8th and Victory Day is the 9th. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin is sleeping with an enemy of America !
Sarah Palin is therefore an ENEMY of AMERICA. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Keep this line of thinking going, Bongo. Because, by implication, your reasoning can be applied to Barky. Hmmm. Let's see. The founder of an organisation that the husband of the VP candidate belongs to expressed WORDS of hatred for America. You left out that the AIP still has secession as a goal and still honors the words of its founder and that Todd Palin has been a member for 7 years and that Sarah Palin introduced their 2008 convention. Neither one of them has, to my knowledge, ever repudiated those WORDS nor the basic tenets of the secessionist AIP. Yet Barky himself -- not his wife -- was intimately connected with and worked closely with a non-repentant self-admitted terrorist...not someone who expressed, through his freedom of speech, words of hatred of America BUT ACTUALLY BOMBED THE INSTITUTIONS OF THE UNITED STATES. Obama was 8 years old when that happened and never had any association with Ayers in any way until decades later when he participated in a widely respected education project with a team that included a fully rehabilitated Ayers and others - all of whom had nothing at all to do with Ayer's' past. Yes, genius, keep this sort of thing up. It should bode well for the Obama campaign. I don't have any doubt that Obama's campaign will successfully weather the admitted last ditch desperate effort by the McCain people to resort to intense negative less-than-truthful smears. They simply cannot win any other way. Half-truths, misrepresentations, omissions, distortions, exaggerations and flat out lies are what characterize the claims *and integrity* of the right wing freaks and low-life slime trolls like Magoo. After having been burned so badly by the bullshit and lies of BushCo and its 'culture of corruption' rubber stamp GOP Congress, the American people appear to be more savvy lately than to accept more of the same in the form of a negative smear campaign by McCain/Palin and their surrogate noise makers who offer little if anything that's substantive real positive change for the nation and regular Americans at all - just a continuation of more of the same self-service and failures.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dow Drops 800 Points
Someone had an interesting explanation on CNBC. He said concerned mutual fund holders wanted out over the weekend and that caused the big mutual fund companies like Fidelity to send in huge sell orders first thing Monday morning to satisfy these customer requests. Late in the day, all that selling was over, at which point the lull brought in some buyers. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Dow Drops 800 Points To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 4:09 PM It closed down only -365 points. I suspect in the closing hours some folks realized some bargains were to be had. ;-) do.rflex wrote: NEW YORK — Wall Street suffered through another traumatic session Monday, with the Dow Jones industrials plunging as much as 800 points and setting a new record for a one-day point drop as investors despaired that the credit crisis would take a heavy toll around the world. The Dow also fell below 10,000 for the first time since 2004, and all the major indexes fell about 5 percent. The catalyst for the selling was the growing realization that the Bush administration's $700 billion rescue plan and steps taken by other governments won't work quickly to unfreeze the credit markets. Moreover, investors are increasingly unnerved by the paralysis in the credit markets that has started to affect companies trying to borrow for acquisitions or just to conduct their daily operations. That sent stocks spiraling downward in the U.S., Europe and Asia, and drove investors to sink money into the relative safety of U.S. government debt. Fears about a global recession also caused oil to drop below $90 a barrel. The fact is, people are scared and the only thing they're doing is selling, said Ryan Detrick, senior technical strategist at Schaeffer's Investment Research. Investors are cleaning out portfolios and getting rid of everything because nothing seems to be working. The selling was so extreme that only 107 stocks rose on the NYSE _ and 3,121 dropped. That's a telling sign considering the stock market is considered a leading economic indicator, with investors tending to buy and sell based on where they believe the economy will be in six to nine months. Monday's stock trading extended what has been an extraordinary stretch of volatility, in which triple-digit drops in the Dow are becoming almost commonplace. The steep decline indicates that investors are becoming more convinced that the country is leading a prolonged economic crisis that is spreading to other nations. Over the weekend, governments across Europe rushed to prop up failing banks, while the governments of Germany, Ireland and Greece also said they would guarantee bank deposits. Full article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/wall-street-tumbles-amid_n_132186.html http://tinyurl.com/3uc552 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kimbo Knocked Out
--- On Mon, 10/6/08, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kimbo Knocked Out To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 3:09 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Oy vay! Kimbo got knocked out in 14 seconds by an out of shape third tier dude called in at the last second to fight him. He charged-in with his head totally exposed and caught a glancing chopping right and went down. Just pathetic. Does Kimbo even train? Real novice mistake. Pathetic. did you see it Curtis? Kimbo is like a biblical goliath. In other words, he's a dud. I had it taped so I just saw it. I love having free mixed martial arts on network TV! This sport has arrived. Lots of great fights with Gina Carrano once again legitimizing woman's MMA. The high level of tactical skill in her fight made the Kimbo fiasco look like a badly matched school yard brawl. Kimbo is like the old school UFC freak show days. I still like to see a few of them sprinkled in with the super high technical skills of the modern MMA fighter. It has it's own excitement value for me. And not to rile up the sleeping Off, but it was a short karate style punch that stunned Kimbo. Of course Kimbo's lack of any boxing technique made the absurd punch possible, but it did knock him right down. The punch was all arm, no shoulder-body power punch. Kimbo just doesn't have the skills to compete with more well-rounded fighters. He would be better off in pro wrestling IMO. Gina's the real deal. Real warrior spirit with developing chops to back it up. I got a woody, you? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Doctor Manhattan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Manhattan
[FairfieldLife] It is OK to be sexist as long as you pretend not to be racist
The Confluence October 6, 2008 by garychapelhill It is OK to be sexist as long as you pretend not to be racist http://tinyurl.com/4sb77x http://tinyurl.com/4sb77x McClatchy has an article today http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/53486.html suggesting that if Missouri goes to the Republicans this year it will be because of racism. Never mind the fact that Missouri has gone Republican in the last two elections. They are determined to make this all about race, just as they did in the primaries. I am shocked that more people in the African American and civil rights communities aren't outraged at having this issue used as a tool to elect a fraud to the White House solely based on the color of his skin. Because when it comes to the content of his character, he doesn't have a shred of it. Four years ago, one yard in a working-class Kansas City suburb sported a Kerry sign bigger than a bed mattress. But this season there's no Obama sign there of any size, not even throw-pillow dimension. It's the `B-L-A-C-K' issue, a neighbor explained. You hear it everywhere. But it hardly has to be spelled out for most of us that race has been injected into presidential politics in unprecedented ways. And who injected it into the race? That would be Obama himself, and his lackeys in the corporate, lying media, who care as much about race relations as they do about telling the truth. That would be not at all. See, they only cry bigotry when it suits their interests. And their interest is to have a sock puppet in the white house. If they truly cared about bigotry and hatred they would recognize the rampant sexism that has gone on this election season. They might even write articles contemplating that Obama might win in a given state because the voters don't want to elect a W-O-M-A-N to the vice-presidency. Instead they engage in some of the most vile, hate-filled attacks on women you can imagine. If you don't believe me, take a look at these editorial cartoons. The media, while it falls all over itself to see tinges of racism, openly engages in the worst kinds of misogyny. I found sixty cartoons about Palin at this site http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/ig/Sarah-Palin-Cartoons/ and not one of them was positive. Here is a sample: [300] http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/sexist-7.jpg [300] http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/sexist3.jpg [300] http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/sexist2.jpg Not only that, they paint HER as the anti-feminist sexist, and to prove beyond a doubt that they are complete scumbags, they pile onto her teenage daughter as well. [300] http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/sexist5.jpg [300] http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/sexist6.jpg If anyone dared draw a picture of Obama in such a condescending and thoroughly dismissive way just because of his race, I'd be the first to cry foul. So why can they do it to a woman? So here's the deal the media is trying to sell you: If Obama loses it will be YOUR fault because YOU are a racist. If McCain/Palin lose, the fact that they used the most vile and misogynistic tactics against her is fair game because, well, you know she's a stupid girl. 30% is all we need to stop this nonsense.
[FairfieldLife] Olbermann hits one out of the park
Olbermann Special Comment on Palin. He totally nails it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnSXGTFQ0Ak
[FairfieldLife] Hillary's Senate Statement on the Economy
Anglachel's Journal Sunday, October 05, 2008 Hillary's Senate Floor Statement on the Hanky Panky http://tinyurl.com/4gousj ...What becomes clear in the statement is that there is at least one Democrat in the Senate who is thinking extremely concretely about how to reform the financial system from top to bottom. She opens with some straightforwardly constituent-oriented explanation for her vote: New York is the nation's financial center and is going to get the stuffing beaten out of it unless things can be stabilized. She doesn't sugar coat it... http://tinyurl.com/4qqk3a Senator Clinton: Thank you Mr. President. Thank you very much, and I appreciate the extraordinary work that has been done with respect to the rescue package, led in a bipartisan fashion which has certainly produced significant changes in the original request that came to the Congress from the Treasury Department. And tonight we will vote on legislation none of us wish we were considering and none of us can afford to see fail. The costs of inaction are far too great. We are already seeing the consequences of a freezing credit market that will only worsen. I hear across my state of New York, small businesses are struggling to find affordable loans to keep their doors open and their inventory stocked. Even larger businesses are being pushed to the breaking point throughout the country, the impact of this credit crisis is beginning to be felt, with students who are seeing the sources of student loans drying up, interest rates on car payments rising, families who had saved up and acted responsibly seeing higher mortgage rates, shrinking their dream of homeownership. Our economy runs on credit, and underlying that credit is trust. Both the credit and the trust is running out. Essentially what we are doing here in an intangible way is restoring trust and confidence in a very tangible way: helping to restore credit. Banks will refuse to lend to businesses and even to one another. Investors continue to withdraw into the safest if investments, treasury bills, even cash. Tens of thousands of jobs in New York have been lost and a study this morning projected that New York alone would lose at least 120,000 jobs. Now I think we are here in some respects because we failed to tackle a home mortgage crisis, and now we are facing a market crisis. If we fail to tackle the market crisis, we risk an even deeper economic crisis. I don't think any of us want to see irresponsibility on Wall Street compounded by ineffectiveness in Washington. That's why we must act, even as we do so with regret and reservations, because we have little choice. The proposal we are considering is far from perfect, but it is a far cry from the original plan sent over by the Treasury Department that installed virtually unlimited powers in the hands of the Treasury Secretary. As I said when we first examined that original three-page proposal, we needed a plan that included checks and balances, not a blank check. And thanks to the leadership here in the Senate and in the House, we have negotiated through the Congress, on a bipartisan basis, a better alternative that installs taxpayer protections, asserts oversight, and maintains greater accountability. As is the case very often in effective compromises, no one is happy. But we cannot let the perfect be the enemy of the good, or in this case, the enemy of what's necessary. But as we vote for this proposal tonight, we must do so considering what steps we will take next. On the floor at this moment are three of the leaders who shaped this, under the very able leadership of Chairman Dodd, and the chief Republican negotiator, Senator Gregg, and of course the Chairman of the Finance Committee, Chairman Baucus. But I think we all recognize that this is not the end but the beginning of what we must do. And I believe there are three big goals that we will have to address even after we pass the Rescue Package tonight here in the Senate and send it over to the House. First, we must address the home mortgage crisis. For two years, I and others have called for action as wave after wave of defaults and foreclosures crashed against communities and the broader economy. We are not yet through the woods. Millions of mortgages are underwater or under specter of adjustable rates set to rise. I am proposing what we're calling The Homeowners Mortgage Enterprise, an acronym obviously spelling HOME, to rewrite mortgages and reset terms so that creditworthy, responsible families can keep their homes and keep making affordable payments. Through such a HOME program, we'd also be able to consider freezing adjustable mortgage rates and even placing short term moratoriums on foreclosures. When our country enacted a similar program in the Great Depression, we saved one million homes without costing the taxpayers a dime. In fact, the program ended up with a surplus. And only by rewriting the terms of the debt held by families whose mortgages can be salvaged
[FairfieldLife] Obama Supporters...Still Creepy!
The Confluence Posted on October 4, 2008 by garychapelhill Obama Supporters...Still Creepy! http://tinyurl.com/4s3tru http://tinyurl.com/4s3tru I came across this op/ed from the Christian Science Monitor. http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20081003/cm_csm/ymartin;_ylt=Aq2sNvfVNkQQAv\ LsSyoKilKs0NUE Is this a presidential election or a second coming? [200] http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/messiah-obama.jpg Like so many Americans, I feel as though I am holding my breath. Could the quiet seed of joy that was planted in my heart the day I heard Barack Obama speak for the first time take root and grow without fear of the brutal storms of disappointment? Could a leader that evokes awe in me actually win a presidential election? Could the beauty and logic of his words win over the majority of this country's voters? Could they see past the lies and distractions to the center of a human being who sincerely wants to invoke citizens' higher selves? Could a system that seems so broken, so moneyed, so corrupt actually serve to help the American people elect an authentic, complex thinker? Could it be that despite all that is wrong with the electoral process there is enough right to allow a thoughtful candidate to get through the muck and emerge earnest and excited to lead? Short answer: What are you smoking? Seriously, this is just too much. Not even the deranged 33%ers who stuck by Bush through his most criminal and corrupt years as President ever sounded this nutty. But not only that, this person wants you to know that if all of her deluded dreams of grandeur are not fulfilled, it will all be YOUR fault It is not his inevitable fall from grace that I fear. It is the possibility that on Nov. 4, I will find out that my acute craving for a kind and complex leader is not shared by the majority of Americans. That conclusion to this breathtaking story would tempt me, not just to be alienated from American politics, but from the American people. I fear that the worst part of me would bully the best part with cruel words: I told you so. Hope is dangerous and naive. No, it couldn't possibly be that you got bamboozled by a used car salesman. http://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_principle_b/2008/09/would-you-buy-\ a-used-car-from-this-man.html That would be too difficult for your fragile psyche to reconcile. Above all this is a childish approach to convincing people to vote your way. If you have a teenager you'll recongize it right away. It's the old I will forever lose my faith in mankind if I don't get my way rouse. My advice same one your logical and beautiful candidate gave me: Get over it. **UPDATE** Zee suggests that maybe the author of this op-ed may have seen Jesus Christ Superstar one too many times Video I Don't Know How to Love Him http://tinyurl.com/4msrua http://tinyurl.com/4msrua
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: Vaj, why couldn't there be a third possibility, such as THAT NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN? Why is it that the only possibilities had to be something catastrophic? And to now say, as you do, that the two possibilities were the two extremes -- extreme hot or extreme cold -- my gosh, I'm not a scientist but I think I'm on safe ground when I say that THAT is wacky and kooky stuff and not something that can be called science. How does that definition of science go? That something is only known when it occurs as predicted as a repeatable experiment? Well, you can't postulate two wildly opposite outcomes and claim it to be science. That's religion (actually, it's more like a cult). Shemp, don't you think its good to err on the side of caution and do some things about protecting the environment rather than continuing on mindlessly? Yes, I would totally agree with that. And if erring on the side of caution means we do things like alternative energies and such, that's only a win-win. But that's NOT the kind of things that Al Gore wants to do. When he advocates things such as ethanol -- that is, food for fuel -- it is outrageously wrong...and it's killing the weakest of the world and that is simply a crime. Sure, let's do whatever we can to find cleaner energy sources but there shouldn't be such a horrible, negative cost to doing it. AND the first thing that Al Gore can do is declare: I was wrong; the debate is NOT over. Even some of the folks who hate all these carbon tax initiatives think its a good idea to conserve the environment. Note the word conserve. So we can guess you're not much of a conservative. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more scary?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] Well, you can't postulate two wildly opposite outcomes and claim it to be science. Actually, you can postulate an infinite number of wildly different outcomes and claim it to be science. Ever heard of Quantum Mechanics? Lawson Interesting example. Yes, as I understand it, Quantum Mechanics does indeed postulate wildly different outcomes. But all of the outcomes (i.e. where the electron is going to be located) are quantified probabilities based upon many, many repetitions of collapsing the wave function (I don't know if collapsing is the right word to use) and then recording each time where it ends up. So out of 100 times of collapsing -- or localizing -- the electron, it may be located in sector A; 25 times in sector B; 4 times in sector C, etc. And all those possibilities taken together is the wave function. There is no wave function for catastrophic global warming because not even one instance of it has happened yet. Two different things. But thanks for bringing it up because it emphasizes my point: global warming is all conjecture into the future and no one knows what the hell will happen and there's very good evidence on the OTHER side that it won't do what the scaremongers say it will do. In related news, Fairbanks Alaska had the coldest start to winter in 16 years...
[FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: The smell of desperation is in the air... Here (.pdf) is a newspaper column from Bobby May, the McCain campaign chair in Buchanan County, Virginia and correspondence secretary for the Buchanan County Republican Party, warning that the platform of Barack Hussein Obama includes: Illegal Immigration: Learn to Speak Spanish; Terrorist Threat to America: Learn to Speak Arabic; (You know, I can really understand why this would hit a nerve with many Republicans, since a lot of them can barely speak English.) Reparations to Black Community: Opposes before Election Day and supports after Election Day; Freedom of Religion: Mandatory Black Liberation Theology courses taught in all churches; Homosexual Marriage: Coddle sexual perverts. Give tax breaks for NAMBLA membership; Drug Crisis: Raise taxes for free drugs for Obama's inner-city political base; (And, my personal favorite...) The White House: Hire rapper Ludacris to paint it black. http://tinyurl.com/4eakjm Obama suggested French, not Arabic, though in fact, French is a good European language to know if you travel in the middle east or africa. For myself, I'd like to get up to at least level 2 or 3 (level 1 is talking like a native acording to the Japanese gov) in Japanese, and then get to the equvalent for Spanish and French (which I studied decades ago) and Arabic and Chinese (Mandarin, probably) and a few other widely used languages. L Well, you better get busy learning this stuff, Spare Egg, because from what you've told us about yourself, your weight, and your health, you've probably only got 3 or 4 years left...
[FairfieldLife] 'Palin's History = Traitors of USA'
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 11:31 PM Founder Of Group Palin Courted Professed Hatred For The American Government; Cursed Damn Flag By Greg Sargent - September 2, 2008, 6:10PM The founder of the Alaska Independence Party -- a group that has been courted over the years by Sarah Palin, and one her husband was a member of for roughly seven years -- once professed his hatred for the American government and cursed the American flag as a damn flag. The AIP founder, Joe Vogler, made the comments in 1991, in an interview that's now housed at the Oral History Program in the Rasmuson Library at the University of Alaska, Fairbanks. The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government, Vogler said in the interview, in which he talked extensively about his desire for Alaskan secession, the key goal of the AIP. And I won't be buried under their damn flag, Vogler continued in the interview, which also touched on his disappointment with the American judicial system. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home. At another point, Volger advocated renouncing allegiance to the United States. In the course of denouncing Federal regulation over land, he said: And then you get mad. And you say, the hell with them. And you renounce allegiance, and you pledge your efforts, your effects, your honor, your life to Alaska. You can listen to audio of the relevant section of the Volger interview here. Bill Schneider, curator of oral history at the library, verified the authenticity of the interview and the quote to me a few moments ago. Palin has courted the group over the years. Three years after the controversial interview, in 1994, Palin attended the group's annual convention, according to witnesses who spoke to ABC News' Jake Tapper. The McCain campaign is disputing her presence there, but Tapper found two people to attest to it. The McCain campaign today produced Palin's voting registration records, and said they proved she was never a member of the party. But she has repeatedly reached out to the group. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group's 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States. Palin's husband, Todd Palin, was a member of the party from 1995-2002 with a brief exception in 2000. It's worth noting that Vogler isn't just some figure from ancient history. He is still being hailed on AIP's site this year, the same year Palin addressed the group's convention. It's worth pondering how big a deal it would be if Obama had ever courted the support of a group whose head had said this kind of thing about America and her flag. Oh, wait...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kimbo Knocked Out
The Hood got knocked the F out!!! Yea Boi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oy vay! Kimbo got knocked out in 14 seconds by an out of shape third tier dude called in at the last second to fight him. He charged-in with his head totally exposed and caught a glancing chopping right and went down. Just pathetic. Does Kimbo even train? Real novice mistake. Pathetic. did you see it Curtis?
[FairfieldLife] 24-hour global air traffic
*Exceedingly* neat simulation. Among other things, watch the stream of traffic from the U.S. to Europe change direction. Mesmerizing. I watched it four times.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 24-hour global air traffic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Exceedingly* neat simulation. Among other things, watch the stream of traffic from the U.S. to Europe change direction. Mesmerizing. I watched it four times. Er, it's even more mesmerizing if you can actually watch the video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XBwjQsOEeg
[FairfieldLife] I was wrong about Obama
It turns out I was wrong when I previously said that Obama didn't have executive experience. He did. And what was Obama's only executive experience? Why, it was doling out money to William Ayers and his programs to radicalize school children. $50-60 million to be precise. Wow. Forget about everything you've heard about the Ayers/Obama connection; this makes everything else look like a walk in the park. I am sure in the coming days we will hear much about these radicalizing programs and what constituted their curriculum...curriculum drawn up by an unrepentent self-admitted terrorist who as recently as 2001 revelled in being photographed stomping on the American flag:
[FairfieldLife] 'Why Bush Can't Apologize'
If you can't apologize, then you can't forgive... If you can't forgive, then you can't live with yourself, Without living a Lie. If you are living a lie, you are living in Fear. If you live in fear, you begin to attract others, Who also live in fear. When enough people are created, who are living in fear... What happens is death, war, depression and confusion. All this because we can't either admit we made a mistake... Or, We can't even see we did anything wrong. Then we are doomed to continue on the path of fear. And continue making choices based in fear. Choices which lead us off the pathless path. The End. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] 'Indians Smoke, Cowboys Drink Priests Abstain?'
Indians smoke the Holy Smoke. Cowboys Girls, like to drink and get drunk. Both Indians and Cowboys and girls, Enjoy sex. Priests abstain from both smoke, sex and booze?... Some fall into sodomy, or wanting to have sex with children. Strange. These are some observations. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: You just can't make this stuff up...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: For myself, I'd like to get up to at least level 2 or 3 (level 1 is talking like a native acording to the Japanese gov) in Japanese, and then get to the equvalent for Spanish and French (which I studied decades ago) and Arabic and Chinese (Mandarin, probably) and a few other widely used languages. * I enrolled in Japanese language study in Honolulu, after I had become pretty competent learning Spanish in L.A., which is probably the easiest language to learn for an English speaker (tho the verbs are very tough). Japanese pronunciation is not difficult, but I gave up when we got to numbers: there are actually different numbers depending on what you are counting: ...even the Japanese have trouble with it. So much trouble that there is a comedy skit / game show where people count in chant. Each person has to count the last thing the previous person said. So for example the first person will chant, start ban-ban person ban-ban (ban-ban is just part of the chant). The next person in rythym has to say 2 people since the last person said person last so he might say something like futari ban-ban rabbit ban-ban. He's free to chose any word to pass to the next person. Person 3 might says ni-wa ban-ban book ban-ban and so on. The first person to mess up get's punished. http://www.greggman.com/edit/editheadlines/2003-01-26.htm http://www.greggman.com/edit/editheadlines/2003-01-26.htm Chinese was much worse than Japanese -- not only did you have even greater complexity of written characters than Japanese, but Chinese is tonal, which means that a sound can have totally different meanings depending on the pitch variation used in pronunciation (Mandarin has 4 tone patterns, Cantonese has 12 http://bwinzer.wordpress.com/tag/cantonese/ http://bwinzer.wordpress.com/tag/cantonese/ ). So ma can be mother, horse, grandmother etc. -- I dumped Chinese even quicker than Japanese. The problem with Arabic is deciding which dialect you want to learn. Regional differences are so strong that people in Morocco simply do not understand what Saudis are saying, unless they are educated speakers, which means they will be able to converse in Modern Standard Arabic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varieties_of_Arabic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varieties_of_Arabic
[FairfieldLife] 'Maharishi Obama'
Life is Bliss, Yes?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Indians Smoke, Cowboys Drink Priests Abstain?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indians smoke the Holy Smoke. Cowboys Girls, like to drink and get drunk. Both Indians and Cowboys and girls, Enjoy sex. Priests abstain from both smoke, sex and booze?... Some fall into sodomy, or wanting to have sex with children. Strange. These are some observations. R.G. (snip) Some Buddhists seem to be afraid of women. I heard in Japan, that most of the young men, Are so afraid of women, because of the 'new feminist attitude'; That they will mostly go with prostitutes, instead of dating... Strange..
[FairfieldLife] Re: Joe Camel Obama'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Life is Bliss, Yes? Life is a pack of Luckies...
