[FairfieldLife] Re: Universal relativity - And to see you're really only very small . . .
The interesting thing is, that according to Monier-Williams, when 'brahman' refers to the Absolute, it is *treated* like a masculine gender word, even if it grammatically is a neuter gender word. I *guess* that means that e.g. the personal pronoun used to refer to 'brahma' is 'saH'(He), *not* 'tat'(It), as one would expect on the basis of the grammatical gender of the word 'brahman' when it refers to the Absolute, aarrrghh! :D indriyANi parANyAhurindriyebhyaH paraM manaH . manasastu parA buddhiryo buddheH paratastu saH .. 3\-42.. indriyaaNi paraaNi ;aahuH; indriyebhyaH paraM manaH . manasaH; tu paraa buddhiH; yaH; buddheH parataH; tu saH .. 3\-42.. Maharishi's translation: The senses, they say, are subtle; more subtle than the senses is mind; yet finer than mind is intellect; that which is beyond even the intellect is he. The senses (indriyaaNi) they say (aahuH), [are] subtle (paraaNi) more subtle (paraM) than the senses (indriyebhyaH: senses_from) [is] mind (manaH); yet (tu) finer (paraa) than mind (manasaH: mind_from) [is] intellect (buddhiH); that which (yaH) [is] beyond (parataH) even (tu) the intellect (buddheH) [is] he (saH).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Behind the Scenes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_re...@... wrote: http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_Domain_of_Atlanta_Di\ rectors_Meeting_Notes,_2005-2007 http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_Domain_of_Atlanta_D\ irectors_Meeting_Notes,_2005-2007 Since none of the TM TBs will read this, fearful that the meeting notes from private TM meetings might reveal inside information that could reveal that the TM organization is a hotbead of super- stitious, money-grubbing bastards, I break out a few of items below to point out that the TMO is still the same pragmatic, based-totally- on-science-and-caring-for-the-welfare-of-the-masses institution it always was: * Rastra Geet [the national anthem of India] is the National Anthem of the GCWP. * Discussion of the difficulty of getting people to start the TM program because of the cost, countered by saying, TM program is like a really good laptop connected to the cosmic computer for spontaneous right action. * Report that Maharishi did a yagya (Hindu religious ceremony) to awaken all the devatas (deities or spirits). He then said all the devatas came to him and asked what they should do. [Reported by one of the Rajas] * Maharishi Sthapatya Veda (Vedic architecture); mention that they would like 20% of the cost of houses built under their direction to go to them. * Reference to segregation of the sexes during TM refresher course. Men and women are to sit on opposite sides of the room. * Question as to whether a woman may be allowed to give the TM introductory lecture to a group of men by herself. * Discussion of the upcoming David Lynch Weekend at MUM and webcast to other locations. David is to students as catnip is to a cat. * Raja Rogers will find out if ladies can check (the meditation of) men if no re-certified Governors are available. * Mention of fundraising from Heifer International; it's not clear what exactly is meant by this reference. [Clearly they were concerned about taking money from cows. :-)] * Cryptic comment [from Raja Rogers]: But now, put the majority of time on Vishnu. * Report that Rajas spent days attempting to locate hotels with proper vastu in which to stay when traveling and looking for land to buy. Hotel should be NSEW on the grid. If door is east, but a few degrees to North, ok. Or if north, a few degrees to the east is okay. If the hotel has a west main entrance, you enter always from the east. We don't mind what other people are doing, we always use the east entrance. * Can't ask for an unsecured loan from meditators for the tour. With millions having been lost... * Revenue, revenue, revenue. * Reference to negative websites and their desire to eliminate them. :We want a bigger presence on the web and not have the negative sites. Dr. Feldman and Dr. Morris are all working on this. Several schools have been lost by people going to negative websites. If this ever comes up, we just say, 'Look at the scientific evidence.' * Candid comment regarding the ADHD and TM study the organization has attempted to promote via the press: Sarina's research study only had 10 subjects, yet garnered lots of press. * We're working on getting support for our Internet marketing from the David Lynch Foundation. Making a strategy to get rid of the negative sites on the Internet. * When it comes to diagnosing, vaidya can just suggest changes in lifestyle to help their digestion or whatever they have. Vaidya can have the MAPI catalog there and can point to something for a condition that they told us they had. Disclaimer on bottles protects us. If Vaidya thinks something stronger is needed, then they can say there's this other herb combo called MA., and you can choose. If vaidya gives them the choice, he is not really prescribing. That's the way we have had to handle it when there is not a doctor there. * When you are dealing with someone, you give as little info as possible. You don't want to open new doors for people to ask questions. Just answer the question they have asked. * Discussion of the National Call Center and the marketing of TM. In business, it's not normally a good idea to allow a potential customer to put the cost of the product up front in the sales process as an objection. You don't want to put up money as an obstacle to learning TM. Good to get them into the setting of meeting with a Governor. * Used to have average of 20 people at lectures. The rate of people starting seem to be irrelevant to anything that was going on at the lecture. Never been our exp that it's a conventional sales closing situation. The people most likely to start are those who were referred by a meditator. The other factors are intangible factors. The affluent people at lectures thank us heartily and then we don't see them. The one who starts is one who is more modest in their means, who scrapes it together.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Full Moon Lunar Eclipse Message and Guru Purnima
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Full Moon Lunar Eclipse in Capricorn at 15 degrees on 7/7/09 at 5:21AM EDT. A special Message from the Pleiadianâs through Lou Valentino I sit down and put some blissful heart aroma oil in my diffuser... Alex, you asked us to be watchful for posts that could potentially be considered pornographic by Yahoo and get us stuck in the Adult category again. I'm not sure, but I think that the image of Lou rubbing blissful heart aroma oil on his diffuser might just fall into that category. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama on nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: from Dalailama.com A Buddhist Concept of Nature Tonight I will say something about the Buddhist concept of nature. Nagarjuna said that for a system where emptiness is possible, it is also possible to have functionality, and since functionality is possible, emptiness is also possible. So when we talk about nature, the ultimate nature is emptiness. [snip] This certainly expresses emptiness to me! Does so have a special meaning in Tibetan?
[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle:Honey Street, Reported 27th June, extended 6. July
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[FairfieldLife] Humor for us Aspergers?
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[FairfieldLife] Ghostwriting...by committee
From a friend in the inner circle: Apparently what M. contributed to these collective consciousness ghostwriting sessions was quite small. I have had considerable experience working with Mahesh and his committee writing process. I don't know who can take responsibility for a piece actually written by a whole bunch of people. That Mahesh took credit -- well, big surprise. But, from my experience, what he actually contributed to the finished product was very little: he may have contributed a seed of an idea but the committee did the rest with Mahesh constantly keeping the pot stirred. Actually, being involved (a lot) in committee writing is a very exhausting, draining and disappointing process. You work very hard and really have little next to nothing to show for it. And, of course, again from my experience, sometimes the committee would be pleased with something and Mahesh would just hand it off to his current girlfriend or whoever he was courting to get money from to do it over. Personally, if Mahesh's name is on something, I'd just rather ignore it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Behind the Scenes
On Jul 6, 2009, at 9:40 PM, scienceofabundance wrote: http://wikileaks.org/wiki/ Transcendental_Meditation_Domain_of_Atlanta_Directors_Meeting_Notes,_2 005-2007 Science Interesting and pretty damning. 2006_10_11_meeting_Raja_Rogers-notes.pdf Regarding Consciousness-Based Education program to introduce TM into schools: Until these programs are very secure we don't want to arouse any concerns about entanglement with the Christians. Does this mean all the Rajas are effectively Hindus?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Guru Purnima and pics from West Virginia
where are the pics? please! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: The great irony here is that with MMY gone, I'm sure this site will be built to completion and it will be a great place. --- On Tue, 7/7/09, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Happy Guru Purnima and pics from West Virginia To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 12:22 AM From: Victor Pardo victorpardo...@... Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:50 PM Subject: Happy Guru Purnima and pics from West Virginia To: Hi Everyone and Happy Guru Purnima, I wanted to send you these beautiful pictures of a model and recent progress on our land for the new Purusha facility in West Virgina. Also Tuesday is Guru Purnima, the day of Fullness of the Master, and on this special day I wanted to wish you the blossoming of Maharishi's great gifts to us all in the coming year. There is really a sense of tremendous progress in the world as a whole these days and it doesn't take a great act of imagination to see the day dawning not far off when Maharishi's unique contribution will be widely recognized and implemented throughout the world. There are very good developments in the US since the Paul McCartney concert in April--notably in the native American community, in the area of scientific research on TM in areas such as bipolar disease, ADHD, Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, etc, and in TM in education. So enjoy the message of Guru Dev to the world, that, Life is naturally full, and dive deep into the silence that he enlivened for us all. Concerning the project in West Virginia, we have now raised about $3 million of a $12 million project and if anyone has any creative ideas on how financing for the rest can come about please let me know and I will connect you with Raja Bob LoPinto, who Maharishi put in charge of the construction and who is doing a brilliant job. All the best. Enjoy the abounding grace of Shri Guru Dev on Tuesday. All Glory to Guru Dev, Jai Guru Dev, Victor This last pic is a view of our Purusha Mountain from the back (the west). Since the trees have now been cleared from all the sites where buildings will go, now we see that every room will have fantastic long-range views of the rolling hills--which is just what Maharishi wanted. In all ways the project seems to be unfolding with the unseen hand of a Supreme Administrator clearing away the obstacles and moving the project along. It is so inspiring
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Behind the Scenes
On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Reference to negative websites and their desire to eliminate them. :We want a bigger presence on the web and not have the negative sites. Dr. Feldman and Dr. Morris are all working on this. Several schools have been lost by people going to negative websites. If this ever comes up, we just say, 'Look at the scientific evidence.' It sounds like there's a need for a website listing the independent evidence on TM and TM research.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghostwriting...by committee
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: From a friend in the inner circle: If that friend turns out to be Vaj himself I would not be surprized.
[FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Alex, This is nothing new. Palin has lots of Republican enemies, the good old boys, the men. Palin draws bigger crowds, is more popular and pulls in more money for the party's conservative base, than all of the male presidential hopefuls put together. They got nothing and Palin scares the hell out of them. The only reason you're noticing wingnut apoplexy about her is that she's in the news. So right on cue they start spreading crapola. She gets it from both sides, hard and mean. Sarah Palin's surprise resignation has brought out the crazy again, and reading through the blogs I'm reminded of how much pure bullshit has been said and believed about her and continues to be said and believed. I'm reminded of how so many feminists seem possessed of a wholly irrational hatred for this woman. Palin considers herself a feminist, and except for the abortion thing, she's more explicitly feminist than the average American. ...if you ask feminists why they hate Sarah Palin is that it's because she and then fill in the blank with the lie of choice: made rape victims pay for their own kits, is against contraception or sex ed, believes in abstinence-only, thinks the dinosaurs were here 4000 years ago, doesn't believe in global warming, doesn't believe in evolution, is stupid and can't read, etc., etc., etc., etc. But none of those things is true. None of them. Which brings me to my first puzzlement: why don't people bother to find out what Sarah Palin really believes? I don't mean people as in the usual sexist freaks; I mean feminists. But even weirder is what happens when you try to replace the myths with the truth. If you explain, no, she didn't charge rape victims, your feminist interlocutor will come back with something else: she's abstinence-only! No, you say, she's not; and then the person comes back with, she's a creationist! and so on. She's an uneducated moron! Actually, Sarah Palin is not dumb at all, and based on her interviews and comments, I'd say she has a greater knowledge of evolution, global warming, and the Wisconsin glaciation in Alaska than the average citizen. But after you've had a few of these myth-dispelling conversations, you start to realize that it doesn't matter. These people don't hate Palin because of the lies; the lies exist to justify the hate. That's why they keep reaching and reaching for something else, until they finally get to she winked on TV! Read more: Feminists and the mystery of Sarah Palin http://tinyurl.com/kubxv2 http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/07/04/feminists-and-the-mystery-of-sarah-palin/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Behind the Scenes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Reference to negative websites and their desire to eliminate them. :We want a bigger presence on the web and not have the negative sites. Dr. Feldman and Dr. Morris are all working on this. Several schools have been lost by people going to negative websites. If this ever comes up, we just say, 'Look at the scientific evidence.' It sounds like there's a need for a website listing the independent evidence on TM and TM research. Why bother, you have one right here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghostwriting...by committee
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: From a friend in the inner circle: If that friend turns out to be Vaj himself I would not be surprized. No, it's not Vaj. It's Vaj's sock pupppet, Archie DeBunker.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Behind the Scenes
On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:07 AM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Reference to negative websites and their desire to eliminate them. :We want a bigger presence on the web and not have the negative sites. Dr. Feldman and Dr. Morris are all working on this. Several schools have been lost by people going to negative websites. If this ever comes up, we just say, 'Look at the scientific evidence.' It sounds like there's a need for a website listing the independent evidence on TM and TM research. Why bother, you have one right here. It would be a better idea to have a systematic presentation of the research across time, present what the state of the art is and compare and contrast in a much more detailed manner. It would also make it potentially easier for people being sold 'on the research' to have an authoritative and easily accessible resource. It's unlikely people looking for quick answers are going to drill down though an email lists archives to do so, so you provide it so they don't have to.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ghostwriting...by committee
On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:12 AM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: From a friend in the inner circle: If that friend turns out to be Vaj himself I would not be surprized. No, it's not Vaj. It's Vaj's sock pupppet, Archie DeBunker. Nope, sorry, not me but a long time, up close, inside circle person who directly experienced this many times.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Behind the Scenes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Reference to negative websites and their desire to eliminate them. :We want a bigger presence on the web and not have the negative sites. Dr. Feldman and Dr. Morris are all working on this. Several schools have been lost by people going to negative websites. If this ever comes up, we just say, 'Look at the scientific evidence.' It sounds like there's a need for a website listing the independent evidence on TM and TM research. Isn't it fascinating that the Threaten to sue them until they shut up tactic supported and lauded by several TM TBs recently when attempted by Sarah Palin is also the official policy of the TMO? In these meeting minutes we have on-the-record discussions among TMO bigwigs expressing their feelings about negative websites and their desire to eliminate them dating back to 2006: We want a bigger presence on the web and not have the negative sites. Dr. Feldman and Dr. Morris are all working on this. Another refer- ence was made to Bill Goldstein, who was named as the TM movement attorney. Now, in 2009, we see that same Bill Goldstein behind the threatening letter to TM-Free that caused them to cancel their planned Webinar. Isn't it interesting that in that letter he was *not* identified as the TM movement's attorney, but instead affiliated with David Lynch's organization. Several other websites have reported recent harassment from TMO lawyers. I think that the case can be made for these actions being classic SLAPP suits, especially because the *planning* for such suits can now be proved to have been being discussed by TMO officials since at least 2009. Fascinating too how those whose records and qualifications cannot stand on their own always seem to resort to threatening lawyers whenever someone questions those records and qualifica- tions. Were she not so Christian, Sarah Palin would fit right in in the TMO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Behind the Scenes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:07 AM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Reference to negative websites and their desire to eliminate them. :We want a bigger presence on the web and not have the negative sites. Dr. Feldman and Dr. Morris are all working on this. Several schools have been lost by people going to negative websites. If this ever comes up, we just say, 'Look at the scientific evidence.' It sounds like there's a need for a website listing the independent evidence on TM and TM research. Why bother, you have one right here. It would be a better idea to have a systematic presentation of the research across time, present what the state of the art is and compare and contrast in a much more detailed manner. It would also make it potentially easier for people being sold 'on the research' to have an authoritative and easily accessible resource. It's unlikely people looking for quick answers are going to drill down though an email lists archives to do so, so you provide it so they don't have to. Go for it. Why don't you put up such an authoritative site? All you have to do is transfer your posts from here to there. What's stopping you? You could get a cult following and be as popular as http://www.rense.com/ who feeds on the paranoia people with bogeymen.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Guru Purnima and pics from West Virginia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, min.pige min.p...@... wrote: where are the pics? please! Here's a PDF file of the original post, with pics: http://alex.natel.net/ffl/documents/Happy%20Guru%20Purnima%20and%20pics%20from%20West%20Virginia.pdf http://is.gd/1pUgU
[FairfieldLife] FF All Gurus Purnima (Celebration)
Tonite Stotrams, prayers, pujas, aarti in the names of our beloved gurus. Bring a picture of your beloved guru to celebrate at 7pm. Bring offerrings as you would of fruit flowers too. Jai the Guru. Location to follow shortly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghostwriting...by committee
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:12 AM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: From a friend in the inner circle: If that friend turns out to be Vaj himself I would not be surprized. No, it's not Vaj. It's Vaj's sock pupppet, Archie DeBunker. Nope, sorry, not me but a long time, up close, inside circle person who directly experienced this many times. Crop circle person.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: snip [quoting Violet at Reclusive Leftist:] Sarah Palin's surprise resignation has brought out the crazy again, and reading through the blogs I'm reminded of how much pure bullshit has been said and believed about her and continues to be said and believed. I'm reminded of how so many feminists seem possessed of a wholly irrational hatred for this woman. snip But after you've had a few of these myth-dispelling conversations, you start to realize that it doesn't matter. These people don't hate Palin because of the lies; the lies exist to justify the hate. That's why they keep reaching and reaching for something else, until they finally get to she winked on TV! Read more: Feminists and the mystery of Sarah Palin http://tinyurl.com/kubxv2 http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/07/04/feminists-and-the-mystery-of-sarah-palin/ Zowie, what an *extraordinarily* fine rant! The comments are terrific too, at least the first couple dozen that I read out of several hundred. Palin and the whole spectrum of reactions to her, from both sexes, feminists and non-, are revelatory of the current state of relations between men and women in this country, vastly more so than the reactions to Hillary; those were just the hors d'ouvres. The violently negative reactions of women who consider themselves feminists have to be the key to it--although what, exactly, they're revealing is far from clear. My sister and I were just pondering an email she had received in a conversation she was having with a prominent male progressive blogger, one of the more reasonable ones, a staunch feminist. He said he could envision having George W. Bush as a neighbor and, politics aside, actually liking him--but he wouldn't want to have Palin as a neighbor; he thought she was basically a really nasty person. My sister and I were flabbergasted. As appalling and irrational as we find her political behavior, we would both *love* to have her as a neighbor. We wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of her, but we think she'd be enormous fun, even exhilarating, to be around--warm, upbeat, energetic, funny, supportive. And this male blogger's negative sense of her was mild compared to the boiling rage of the so-called feminists Violet talks about. Her pro-life sentiments aside, in my view Palin is more of an authentic feminist than these women could even dream of being. And it's clear that she isn't pro-life because she's anti-woman. I think Violet nails it: the truth or falsity of the various ugly stories that are circulated about Palin is entirely irrelevant. The hatred comes first--from where is the big question--and the falsehoods are generated simply to justify it. Is a puzzlement.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FF Dome Numbers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: A few more good minds needed. Be all that you can Be. Om. http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html Interesting numbers. I suppose what they say is that sooner rather than later the whole operation of Creating Coherence will be moved out of Fairfield, IOWA to India where we will get infinitely more power for every buck. The Americans had their historic chance but lost to a third world country, perhaps due to materialism, and definately due to spiritual hedonism. snip If the americans themselves do not take responsebility for their Nation, why on earth, after all these years should the World Government do it ? It makes no sense any more. It will be interesting to see what the spiritual vampires of Fairfield will do when they are no longer fed by the coherence created in the Domes. My guess is that they will slowly leave and that Fairfield will revert to where it was before Maharishi temporarily blessed it. A dull, sleepy mid-western town. The Movement belongs to those that move - Maharishi Nablusoss, You do write of a kind of status here. Seems the movement moved away from its meditators a long time ago. Horses got out of the barn and things became too late to close the doors to have kept hardly any them in. A challenge seems now is to find any again, the ones that would come back. Some few are evidently willing to come back and lot others are entirely shy of their experience before. JGD, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Even Fox News has started to turn on Sarah Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Alex, This is nothing new. Palin has lots of Republican enemies, the good old boys, the men. Palin draws bigger crowds, is more popular and pulls in more money for the party's conservative base, than all of the male presidential hopefuls put together. IOW, she's an effective cheerleader. Unfortunately, she's also an undereducated, uninformed, provincial hillbilly who is not at all qualified to be POTUS or VP. They got nothing and Palin scares the hell out of them. The only reason you're noticing wingnut apoplexy about her is that she's in the news. So right on cue they start spreading crapola. She gets it from both sides, hard and mean. I get a lot of emails from Newsmax because I'm subscribed to some of their financial newsletters (who better to go to for advice about money than folks who absolutely worship it?), and they've been *heavily* promoting her. This is the first time I've seen anything negative about Palin from them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Even Fox News has started to turn on Sarah Palin. In the midst of a segment about the Alaska Governor's battle against liberal attacks, Liz Trotta went off-message. Frankly, the woman is inarticulate, undereducated, Trotta said, arguing that for once liberal criticism was well-deserved. I think all the liberal stylists ... really have a case. She just begs for adjectives like flaky and wacky. When pressed, she added, We're talking about somebody who, right from the get-go, has been a flashy person who gets into a lot of trouble and really has no credentials for any job. ~~ Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvj-Xr0irhE Newsmax, too: http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/palin_resignation/2009/07/06/232320.html http://is.gd/1pupq
[FairfieldLife] Quick -- who is this description really describing ?
An exercise in language, for your amusement: 1. Take a generic quote, a description of someone unnamed. Something like this one: The truth or falsity of the various ugly stories that are circulated about _ is entirely irrelevant. The hatred comes first--from where is the big question--and the falsehoods are generated simply to justify it. 2. Now fill in the blank with the name Vaj. Whose name immediately pops into your mind as the person this quote is describing? Wasn't that fun? And isn't it fascinating that you were able to think of more than one name? I thought of at least five.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blogger Threatened With Palin Lawsuit - Bring it on, Sarah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: In a yet another completely tone-deaf move hailed by GOP sycophants as cagey, Sarah Palin complained about the mean ol' bloggers chasing after her and sic'ed her lawyer after them, threatening lawsuits. Palin's lawyer, in point of fact, put out a four page letter (.pdf) outlining the defamatory charges against his client that would embarrass a first semester law student. One of those in Palin's crosshairs is Alaskan blogger Shannyn Moore. Shannyn has one message for Palin: Bring it on. Watch Moore stand up to Palin's threats here: http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/blogger-threatened-palin-lawsuit-brin Go for it Sarah.I hope these folks get everything due to them! I hope she sues her arse!! For what, Billy? ... for factually reporting that there were rumors? Are you really THAT dumb? The Crooks and Liars pdf link to Palin's legal document says that any reporter interested in doing his or her job could easily have fact checked public records contradicting the allegation that Palin embezzled from the Wasilla Sports Complex. Yet, reporters like Shannyn Moore, ignoring the facts already a matter of public record, preferring to spread lies, innuendo and rumors, speculated that the reason Palin resigned as governor was that she is facing a criminal investigation. Today in a rare public statement, the FBI said they are not investigating Palin for any reason, which clearly shoots a hole in Moore's and others' story attempting to assassinate Palin's character. All Moore can offer in her defense is that she was reporting facts about rumors which is quite an oxymoron IMO. Any idiot can see that there is no winnable lawsuit against Shannyn Moore in this matter. Probably not, but Palin sent a message loud enough for the FBI to step in and put the lies of unethical reporters to rest. Palin fired a shot across the bow of jackasses like Moore who would rather report rumors than report facts and I say, good for her. As far as the questionable building of the Palin lake-side home, if you look at the details, there are STILL legitimate unanswered ethics questions about who paid for/supplied the materials and built it. Those facts are NOT, contrary to the claims of Palin's lawyer, on public record. The FBI has said that THEY have no pending investigation, but what about the IRS, or the state of Alaska, or any other legal authority? I don't doubt that there is further to uncover in that area. Considering Palin's checkered ehtics history and self-created prominent public exposure, those questions are pertinent and remain unanswered. Plus. Nobody Palin threatened takes her threats seriously. She's just sore loser and a whiner who can't take the public criticism - though she can sure dish it out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quick -- who is this description really describing ?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: An exercise in language, for your amusement: 1. Take a generic quote, a description of someone unnamed. Something like this one: The truth or falsity of the various ugly stories that are circulated about _ is entirely irrelevant. The hatred comes first--from where is the big question--and the falsehoods are generated simply to justify it. 2. Now fill in the blank with the name Vaj. Whose name immediately pops into your mind as the person this quote is describing? I think many of us would fill in Maharishi, and Vaj would pop into mind as the person the quote is describing. Or Judy/Raunchydog and Barry, respectively. How very odd that Barry would think Vaj is disliked for himself rather than for the falsehoods and ugly stories Vaj tells about MMY and TMers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: snip [quoting Violet at Reclusive Leftist:] Sarah Palin's surprise resignation has brought out the crazy again, and reading through the blogs I'm reminded of how much pure bullshit has been said and believed about her and continues to be said and believed. I'm reminded of how so many feminists seem possessed of a wholly irrational hatred for this woman. snip But after you've had a few of these myth-dispelling conversations, you start to realize that it doesn't matter. These people don't hate Palin because of the lies; the lies exist to justify the hate. That's why they keep reaching and reaching for something else, until they finally get to she winked on TV! Read more: Feminists and the mystery of Sarah Palin http://tinyurl.com/kubxv2 http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/07/04/feminists-and-the-mystery-of-sarah-palin/ Zowie, what an *extraordinarily* fine rant! The comments are terrific too, at least the first couple dozen that I read out of several hundred. Palin and the whole spectrum of reactions to her, from both sexes, feminists and non-, are revelatory of the current state of relations between men and women in this country, vastly more so than the reactions to Hillary; those were just the hors d'ouvres. The violently negative reactions of women who consider themselves feminists have to be the key to it--although what, exactly, they're revealing is far from clear. My sister and I were just pondering an email she had received in a conversation she was having with a prominent male progressive blogger, one of the more reasonable ones, a staunch feminist. He said he could envision having George W. Bush as a neighbor and, politics aside, actually liking him--but he wouldn't want to have Palin as a neighbor; he thought she was basically a really nasty person. My sister and I were flabbergasted. As appalling and irrational as we find her political behavior, we would both *love* to have her as a neighbor. We wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of her, but we think she'd be enormous fun, even exhilarating, to be around--warm, upbeat, energetic, funny, supportive. When Palin resigned I happened to be hanging out in the hospital TV room, waiting for my next rehab patient to arrive. A big burly farmer guy, waiting for his physical therapy appointment, turned to me and said, I'd vote for her. Funny thing was, he wasn't an anti-abortion nut. He just liked her because he hated the media's and David Letterman in particular, attacks on her. The Palin hate fest from the left, right and feminists could backfire on all of them. People love an underdog. The more they attack her the more her supporters will dig in their heels. It's kind of the way I felt about attacks on Hillary. My support for her grew in proportion to the vileness of the attacks. Violet has a follow up article today, ...inside the mind of a former Palin-hater! of a former Obama supporter who shows remorse for participating in irrational Palin hate. We could use a few more sane sisters like her willing to walk it back from irrational Palin hate. http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/07/06/comments-from-the-giant-thread-inside-the-mind-of-a-former-palin-hater/ http://tinyurl.com/mjtp2x And this male blogger's negative sense of her was mild compared to the boiling rage of the so-called feminists Violet talks about. Her pro-life sentiments aside, in my view Palin is more of an authentic feminist than these women could even dream of being. And it's clear that she isn't pro-life because she's anti-woman. I think Violet nails it: the truth or falsity of the various ugly stories that are circulated about Palin is entirely irrelevant. The hatred comes first--from where is the big question--and the falsehoods are generated simply to justify it. Is a puzzlement.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quick -- who is this description really describing ?
P.S.: Notice how speedily Barry managed to come up with a distraction from the point of the original post, which concerned the irrational hatred of Palin that generates the ugly falsehoods about her. That isn't anything he wishes to contemplate, or to have others contemplate. Change the subject, quick, before anybody thinks about it! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: An exercise in language, for your amusement: 1. Take a generic quote, a description of someone unnamed. Something like this one: The truth or falsity of the various ugly stories that are circulated about _ is entirely irrelevant. The hatred comes first--from where is the big question--and the falsehoods are generated simply to justify it. 2. Now fill in the blank with the name Vaj. Whose name immediately pops into your mind as the person this quote is describing? I think many of us would fill in Maharishi, and Vaj would pop into mind as the person the quote is describing. Or Judy/Raunchydog and Barry, respectively. How very odd that Barry would think Vaj is disliked for himself rather than for the falsehoods and ugly stories Vaj tells about MMY and TMers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Humor for us Aspergers?
Are you diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome, cardemaister? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: http://a4.vox.com/6a00e398ace085000300e398ba29540003-320pi
[FairfieldLife] Washington Post's Eugene Robinson on Palin's resignation . . .
... John McCain should publicly apologize for putting the nation he loves at risk by choosing Palin as his running mate ... The reasons she gave for stepping down are not just contrived or implausible but literally nonsensical ... The thing is, Palin's unsuitability for high public office has been obvious all along ... There are basically two reasons the political class and the commentariat continue to speak and write about Palin as if she were a substantial figure whose presence on the national stage is anything but a cruel, unfunny joke. The first is fear -- not of Palin and her know-nothing legions, but of being painted as elitist and sexist. [...] The other reason Palin is taken more seriously than she deserves is that she has a constituency. Heaven help us. ~~ 'A Starter, Not a Finisher' - Read full excellent article at link: http://snipurl.com/mak6c [www_washingtonpost_com]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
Judy wrote: Re: Quick -- who is this description really describing ? P.S.: Notice how speedily Barry managed to come up with a distraction from the point of the original post, which concerned the irrational hatred of Palin that generates the ugly falsehoods about her. That isn't anything he wishes to contemplate, or to have others contemplate. Change the subject, quick, before anybody thinks about it! Barry Wrote: Re: Quick -- who is this description really describing ? 1. Take a generic quote, a description of someone unnamed. Something like this one: The truth or falsity of the various ugly stories that are circulated about _ is entirely irrelevant. The hatred comes first--from where is the big question--and the falsehoods are generated simply to justify it. 2. Now fill in the blank with the name Vaj. Whose name immediately pops into your mind as the person this quote is describing? Judy Wrote: I think many of us would fill in Maharishi, and Vaj would pop into mind as the person the quote is describing. Or Judy/Raunchydog and Barry, respectively. How very odd that Barry would think Vaj is disliked for himself rather than for the falsehoods and ugly stories Vaj tells about MMY and TMers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: snip [quoting Violet at Reclusive Leftist:] Sarah Palin's surprise resignation has brought out the crazy again, and reading through the blogs I'm reminded of how much pure bullshit has been said and believed about her and continues to be said and believed. I'm reminded of how so many feminists seem possessed of a wholly irrational hatred for this woman. snip But after you've had a few of these myth-dispelling conversations, you start to realize that it doesn't matter. These people don't hate Palin because of the lies; the lies exist to justify the hate. That's why they keep reaching and reaching for something else, until they finally get to she winked on TV! Read more: Feminists and the mystery of Sarah Palin http://tinyurl.com/kubxv2 http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/07/04/feminists-and-the-mystery-of-sarah-palin/ Zowie, what an *extraordinarily* fine rant! The comments are terrific too, at least the first couple dozen that I read out of several hundred. Palin and the whole spectrum of reactions to her, from both sexes, feminists and non-, are revelatory of the current state of relations between men and women in this country, vastly more so than the reactions to Hillary; those were just the hors d'ouvres. The violently negative reactions of women who consider themselves feminists have to be the key to it--although what, exactly, they're revealing is far from clear. My sister and I were just pondering an email she had received in a conversation she was having with a prominent male progressive blogger, one of the more reasonable ones, a staunch feminist. He said he could envision having George W. Bush as a neighbor and, politics aside, actually liking him--but he wouldn't want to have Palin as a neighbor; he thought she was basically a really nasty person. My sister and I were flabbergasted. As appalling and irrational as we find her political behavior, we would both *love* to have her as a neighbor. We wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of her, but we think she'd be enormous fun, even exhilarating, to be around--warm, upbeat, energetic, funny, supportive. And this male blogger's negative sense of her was mild compared to the boiling rage of the so-called feminists Violet talks about. Her pro-life sentiments aside, in my view Palin is more of an authentic feminist than these women could even dream of being. And it's clear that she isn't pro-life because she's anti-woman. I think Violet nails it: the truth or falsity of the various ugly stories that are circulated about Palin is entirely irrelevant. The hatred comes first--from where is the big question--and the falsehoods are generated simply to justify it. Is a puzzlement.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FF Dome Numbers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: A few more good minds needed. Be all that you can Be. Om. http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html Interesting numbers. I suppose what they say is that sooner rather than later the whole operation of Creating Coherence will be moved out of Fairfield, IOWA to India where we will get infinitely more power for every buck. The Americans had their historic chance but lost to a third world country, perhaps due to materialism, and definately due to spiritual hedonism. snip If the americans themselves do not take responsebility for their Nation, why on earth, after all these years should the World Government do it ? It makes no sense any more. It will be interesting to see what the spiritual vampires of Fairfield will do when they are no longer fed by the coherence created in the Domes. My guess is that they will slowly leave and that Fairfield will revert to where it was before Maharishi temporarily blessed it. A dull, sleepy mid-western town. The Movement belongs to those that move - Maharishi Nablusoss, You do write of a kind of status here. Seems the movement moved away from its meditators a long time ago. Horses got out of the barn and things became too late to close the doors to have kept hardly any them in. A challenge seems now is to find any again, the ones that would come back. Some few are evidently willing to come back and lot others are entirely shy of their experience before. JGD, -Doug in FF Youre are correct. And don't forget that the Movement belongs to those that move
[FairfieldLife] Re: Humor for us Aspergers?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: Are you diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome, cardemaister? No, it's my own diagnosis. : ]
[FairfieldLife] Did you know that Red States lead in something?
50% of Christian Evangelicals [read: Bible Belt] are Addicted to Porn The poll results indicate that 50% of all Christian men and 20% of all Christian women are addicted to pornography, said Clay Jones, founder and President of Second Glance Ministries. We directed over 100,000 inquiries to Second Glance Ministries in one year, stated ChristiaNet.com's President, Bill Cooper. We are seeing an escalation to the problem in both men and women who regularly attend church. ~~~ The poll was conducted by ChristiaNet.com. ChristiaNet.com partnered with Second Glance Ministries in evaluating the poll. http://christiannews.christianet.com/1154951956.htm = = = ~ Red States Lead in Divorce, Teen Pregnancy and Online Porn ~ See chart: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2009/06/27/opinion/20090627blowchart.html While conservatives fight to defend marriage from gays, they can't keep theirs together. According to the Census Bureau's Statistical Abstract, states that went Republican in November accounted for eight of the 10 states with the highest divorce rates in 2006. Conservatives touted abstinence-only education, which was a flop, when real sex education was needed, most desperately in red states. According to 2006 data from the Guttmacher Institute, those red states accounted for eight of the 10 states with the highest teenage birthrates. And, a study titled Red Light States: Who Buys Online Adult Entertainment? that was conducted by Benjamin Edelman, an assistant professor of business at Harvard Business School and published earlier this year in the Journal of Economic Perspectives found that subscriptions to online pornography sites were more prevalent in states where surveys indicate conservative positions on religion, gender roles, and sexuality and in states where more people agree that 'I have old-fashioned values about family and marriage.' They could avoid this hypocrisy by focusing more on what happens in their own bedrooms and avoiding the trap of judging what goes on in everyone else's. Read full article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/27/opinion/27blow.html?_r=2
[FairfieldLife] Re: Washington Post's Eugene Robinson on Palin's resignation . . .
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: ... John McCain should publicly apologize for putting the nation he loves at risk by choosing Palin as his running mate ... The reasons she gave for stepping down are not just contrived or implausible but literally nonsensical ... The thing is, Palin's unsuitability for high public office has been obvious all along ... There are basically two reasons the political class and the commentariat continue to speak and write about Palin as if she were a substantial figure whose presence on the national stage is anything but a cruel, unfunny joke. The first is fear -- not of Palin and her know-nothing legions, but of being painted as elitist and sexist. [...] The other reason Palin is taken more seriously than she deserves is that she has a constituency. Heaven help us. ~~ 'A Starter, Not a Finisher' - Read full excellent article at link: http://snipurl.com/mak6c [www_washingtonpost_com] Robinson, a black man, without any sense of irony at all complains about the sexist card but never made a peep about Obama playing the race card. LOL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you know that Red States lead in something?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: 50% of Christian Evangelicals [read: Bible Belt] are Addicted to Porn The poll results indicate that 50% of all Christian men and 20% of all Christian women are addicted to pornography, said Clay Jones, founder and President of Second Glance Ministries. We directed over 100,000 inquiries to Second Glance Ministries in one year, stated ChristiaNet.com's President, Bill Cooper. We are seeing an escalation to the problem in both men and women who regularly attend church. ~~~ The poll was conducted by ChristiaNet.com. ChristiaNet.com partnered with Second Glance Ministries in evaluating the poll. http://christiannews.christianet.com/1154951956.htm = = = ~ Red States Lead in Divorce, Teen Pregnancy and Online Porn ~ See chart: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2009/06/27/opinion/20090627blowchart.html While conservatives fight to defend marriage from gays, they can't keep theirs together. According to the Census Bureau's Statistical Abstract, states that went Republican in November accounted for eight of the 10 states with the highest divorce rates in 2006. Conservatives touted abstinence-only education, which was a flop, when real sex education was needed, most desperately in red states. According to 2006 data from the Guttmacher Institute, those red states accounted for eight of the 10 states with the highest teenage birthrates. And, a study titled Red Light States: Who Buys Online Adult Entertainment? that was conducted by Benjamin Edelman, an assistant professor of business at Harvard Business School and published earlier this year in the Journal of Economic Perspectives found that subscriptions to online pornography sites were more prevalent in states where surveys indicate conservative positions on religion, gender roles, and sexuality and in states where more people agree that 'I have old-fashioned values about family and marriage.' They could avoid this hypocrisy by focusing more on what happens in their own bedrooms and avoiding the trap of judging what goes on in everyone else's. Read full article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/27/opinion/27blow.html?_r=2 That means that all Republicans are racists and are addicted to porn! And furthermore if you're a Republican AND a Christian, you're evil!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: snip [quoting Violet at Reclusive Leftist:] Sarah Palin's surprise resignation has brought out the crazy again, and reading through the blogs I'm reminded of how much pure bullshit has been said and believed about her and continues to be said and believed. I'm reminded of how so many feminists seem possessed of a wholly irrational hatred for this woman. snip But after you've had a few of these myth-dispelling conversations, you start to realize that it doesn't matter. These people don't hate Palin because of the lies; the lies exist to justify the hate. That's why they keep reaching and reaching for something else, until they finally get to she winked on TV! Read more: Feminists and the mystery of Sarah Palin http://tinyurl.com/kubxv2 http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/07/04/feminists-and-the-mystery-of-sarah-palin/ Zowie, what an *extraordinarily* fine rant! The comments are terrific too, at least the first couple dozen that I read out of several hundred. Palin and the whole spectrum of reactions to her, from both sexes, feminists and non-, are revelatory of the current state of relations between men and women in this country, vastly more so than the reactions to Hillary; those were just the hors d'ouvres. The violently negative reactions of women who consider themselves feminists have to be the key to it--although what, exactly, they're revealing is far from clear. My sister and I were just pondering an email she had received in a conversation she was having with a prominent male progressive blogger, one of the more reasonable ones, a staunch feminist. He said he could envision having George W. Bush as a neighbor and, politics aside, actually liking him--but he wouldn't want to have Palin as a neighbor; he thought she was basically a really nasty person. My sister and I were flabbergasted. As appalling and irrational as we find her political behavior, we would both *love* to have her as a neighbor. We wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of her, but we think she'd be enormous fun, even exhilarating, to be around--warm, upbeat, energetic, funny, supportive. When Palin resigned I happened to be hanging out in the hospital TV room, waiting for my next rehab patient to arrive. A big burly farmer guy, waiting for his physical therapy appointment, turned to me and said, I'd vote for her. Funny thing was, he wasn't an anti-abortion nut. He just liked her because he hated the media's and David Letterman in particular, attacks on her. The Palin hate fest from the left, right and feminists could backfire on all of them. People love an underdog. The more they attack her the more her supporters will dig in their heels. It's kind of the way I felt about attacks on Hillary. My support for her grew in proportion to the vileness of the attacks. Violet has a follow up article today, ...inside the mind of a former Palin-hater! of a former Obama supporter who shows remorse for participating in irrational Palin hate. We could use a few more sane sisters like her willing to walk it back from irrational Palin hate. http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/07/06/comments-from-the-giant-thread-inside-the-mind-of-a-former-palin-hater/ http://tinyurl.com/mjtp2x And this male blogger's negative sense of her was mild compared to the boiling rage of the so-called feminists Violet talks about. Her pro-life sentiments aside, in my view Palin is more of an authentic feminist than these women could even dream of being. And it's clear that she isn't pro-life because she's anti-woman. I think Violet nails it: the truth or falsity of the various ugly stories that are circulated about Palin is entirely irrelevant. The hatred comes first--from where is the big question--and the falsehoods are generated simply to justify it. Is a puzzlement. I wonder how popular she would be if she were a man. If it were Todd as governor who ran for public office and said the same things she has said. I doubt he would have gone far. She was picked because she was a woman and religious. I don't like Palin because she isn't knowledgeable or thoughtful on the issues. She says really stupid things. I wouldn't want her as my neighbor either. Nor would I want George Bush. I also don't like the idea that we want regular guys and gals to be our leaders. Just because arguably she is an authentic feminist doesn't mean that I have to like her or that I can't find her idiotic. I want the best and the brightest. Not that we get it, but that is what I want. But yes, in the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Guru Purnima and pics from West Virginia
where are the pics? please! Here's a PDF file of the original post, with pics: http://alex.natel.net/ffl/documents/Happy%20Guru%20Purnima%20and%20pics%20from%20West%20Virginia.pdf http://is.gd/1pUgU : thanks so much, i never saw this MMY pic before. does anyone know where exactly in WV this building is taking place?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you know that Red States lead in something?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: 50% of Christian Evangelicals [read: Bible Belt] are Addicted to Porn The poll results indicate that 50% of all Christian men and 20% of all Christian women are addicted to pornography, said Clay Jones, founder and President of Second Glance Ministries. We directed over 100,000 inquiries to Second Glance Ministries in one year, stated ChristiaNet.com's President, Bill Cooper. We are seeing an escalation to the problem in both men and women who regularly attend church. ~~~ The poll was conducted by ChristiaNet.com. ChristiaNet.com partnered with Second Glance Ministries in evaluating the poll. http://christiannews.christianet.com/1154951956.htm = = = ~ Red States Lead in Divorce, Teen Pregnancy and Online Porn ~ See chart: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2009/06/27/opinion/20090627blowchart.html While conservatives fight to defend marriage from gays, they can't keep theirs together. According to the Census Bureau's Statistical Abstract, states that went Republican in November accounted for eight of the 10 states with the highest divorce rates in 2006. Conservatives touted abstinence-only education, which was a flop, when real sex education was needed, most desperately in red states. According to 2006 data from the Guttmacher Institute, those red states accounted for eight of the 10 states with the highest teenage birthrates. And, a study titled Red Light States: Who Buys Online Adult Entertainment? that was conducted by Benjamin Edelman, an assistant professor of business at Harvard Business School and published earlier this year in the Journal of Economic Perspectives found that subscriptions to online pornography sites were more prevalent in states where surveys indicate conservative positions on religion, gender roles, and sexuality and in states where more people agree that 'I have old-fashioned values about family and marriage.' They could avoid this hypocrisy by focusing more on what happens in their own bedrooms and avoiding the trap of judging what goes on in everyone else's. Read full article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/27/opinion/27blow.html?_r=2 That means that all Republicans are racists and are addicted to porn! And furthermore if you're a Republican AND a Christian, you're evil! Really? Where does it say that, Billy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you know that Red States lead in something?
A friend of mine who worked in Saudi Arabia for more than 20 years tells me that millions of Arabs are addicted to porn. He tells me that they not only access it in the Net, they also access it in Sat TV. the demand for western porn in middle-east is greater than Arab porn itself. --- On Tue, 7/7/09, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did you know that Red States lead in something? Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 9:27 AM 50% of Christian Evangelicals [read: Bible Belt] are Addicted to Porn The poll results indicate that 50% of all Christian men and 20% of all Christian women are addicted to pornography, said Clay Jones, founder and President of Second Glance Ministries. We directed over 100,000 inquiries to Second Glance Ministries in one year, stated ChristiaNet. com's President, Bill Cooper. We are seeing an escalation to the problem in both men and women who regularly attend church.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
On Jul 7, 2009, at 7:06 AM, raunchydog wrote: Palin considers herself a feminist, and except for the abortion thing, she's more explicitly feminist than the average American. Which goes right to the heart of the idiocy you and a few others have been pushing here... without a woman's right to choose, there *is* no feminism, as the right to choose goes right to the heart of what it means to woman in today's world, and all the attendant choices and decisions that flow from that. Saying she's a feminist except for the abortion thing is like saying someone believes in democracy except for the free elections thing. Doesn't work, and it never will. Take your head out of your ass for five minutes and look around. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Palin in another lie says ethics complaints cost Alaska millions
Today she stood by the shores of Lake Lucille and told us how she was leaving her position for our own good. It's for the best interest of the state, she said. There are too many distractions, too much being picked on, too little time to focus on the matters of state, too many jokes about her kids, and too much money fighting those ethics complaints against her. Strangely, she quoted again the sum of money that ethics complaints against her had cost the state. Millions, she said. Two million. Yesterday's headline in the Anchorage Daily News tallied up the cost at $296,000, with the bulk of that stemming from the Troopergate investigation of last summer. http://snipurl.com/mazxv [www_huffingtonpost_com] ~ Ethics investigations cost state $296,000 ~ Ethics complaints against Gov. Sarah Palin and top members of her administration have cost the state personnel board nearly $300,000 over the past year, almost two-thirds of which appear to be from the Troopergate investigation of the governor [part of which she initiated herself]. That's according to new figures released by the personnel board, which described them as independent counsel expenditures. The board hires private lawyers to investigate the complaints. The expenditures were released after the personnel board expressed frustration at the costs of the complaints. Palin has said the state is wasting money trying to resolve frivolous complaints against her. The bulk of the expenses -- $187,797 -- appear to stem from Troopergate, the messy case involving Palin's former brother-in-law, a state trooper, who got on the wrong side with Palin and her family. Palin herself initiated at least a part of the ethics case to counter a legislative investigation into the same matter. An additional Troopergate ethics complaint was brought by the state troopers union, which complained Palin and others improperly disclosed confidential personnel and workers' compensation records of her former brother-in-law, Mike Wooten, and engaged in systematic efforts to have Wooten fired. The personnel board dismissed the union complaint... Palin herself reportedly has incurred over $600,000 in personal legal bills defending against complaints, although she won't provide a breakdown of the expenses or what cases they were for. ~~ The Anchorage Daily News - full article here: http://www.adn.com/palin/story/850854.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jul 7, 2009, at 7:06 AM, raunchydog wrote: Palin considers herself a feminist, and except for the abortion thing, she's more explicitly feminist than the average American. Which goes right to the heart of the idiocy you and a few others have been pushing here... without a woman's right to choose, there *is* no feminism, as the right to choose goes right to the heart of what it means to woman in today's world, and all the attendant choices and decisions that flow from that. Saying she's a feminist except for the abortion thing is like saying someone believes in democracy except for the free elections thing. Doesn't work, and it never will. Take your head out of your ass for five minutes and look around. I'll vote for that! Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jul 7, 2009, at 7:06 AM, raunchydog wrote: Palin considers herself a feminist, and except for the abortion thing, she's more explicitly feminist than the average American. Which goes right to the heart of the idiocy you and a few others have been pushing here... without a woman's right to choose, there *is* no feminism, as the right to choose goes right to the heart of what it means to woman in today's world, and all the attendant choices and decisions that flow from that. Saying she's a feminist except for the abortion thing is like saying someone believes in democracy except for the free elections thing. Doesn't work, and it never will. Take your head out of your ass for five minutes and look around. Sarah Palin represents one and only one thing to these idiots. She stands for the idea that a woman who has an opinion *must* be listened to, simply because she has an opinion. The opinion doesn't have to make sense, it doesn't have to be based on fact, and it doesn't matter whether no one is the least bit interested in the opinion. The only thing that matters is that the woman has an opinion. That's *enough* for her to deserve to be listened to. And is there any question about *why* these two think this? That's what they believe about *their* opinions as well. My personal opinion for why Palin resigned is that in a fit of narcissistic ego she tried the same stunt that Edg just pulled on FFL. She demanded that the voters of Alaska vote for her to stay, or she'd feel unwanted and stalk off in a snit. Sarah couldn't get ten votes either.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Washington Post's Eugene Robinson on Palin's resignation . . .
Washington Post's Eugene Robinson on Palin's resignation... raunchydog wrote: Robinson, a black man, without any sense of irony at all complains about the sexist card but never made a peep about Obama playing the race card. LOL. Yeah, and I don't recall reading any complaints from Robinson about the sexist card played against Hillary Clinton during the last election.
[FairfieldLife] MMY: Let us be together [1 Attachment]
. MMY: Let us be together At the Lecture (from Guru Purnima 1980), which was broadcasted yesterday due to the Guru-Purnima-Festivities of this year, I send you here the following quote of Maharishi, that Maharishi promoted for all of us. Enjoy ... Jai Guru Dev __ Saha nav avatu Saha viryam karavavahai Tejasvi nav adhitam astu Ma vidvisavahai Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Translation: Let us be together, Let us eat together, Let us be vital together, Let us be radiating truth, radiating the light of life, Never shall we denounce anyone, never entertain negativity. Jai Guru Dev ... -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:51 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote: I wonder how popular she would be if she were a man. If it were Todd as governor who ran for public office and said the same things she has said. I doubt he would have gone far. She was picked because she was a woman and religious. I don't like Palin because she isn't knowledgeable or thoughtful on the issues. She says really stupid things. I wouldn't want her as my neighbor either. Nor would I want George Bush. I also don't like the idea that we want regular guys and gals to be our leaders. Just because arguably she is an authentic feminist doesn't mean that I have to like her or that I can't find her idiotic. I want the best and the brightest. Not that we get it, but that is what I want. But yes, in the rabid take down of Palin sexist statements are made. But that does not mean sexism is the cause of her fall. If she has a fall. More or less off topic, but I wish we could criticize our public officials for their magical religious thinking and I wish we could elect an atheist. I am a bit uncomfortable with the thought that 5 Catholics might be on the Supreme Court. I'm uncomfortable with the fact that 3 of them are Scalia, Thomas and Alito. They're dangerous not because they're Catholic--I could care less about that-- but because they're ideologues with a track record of stomping on the rights of ordinary people, which is of course why they were chosen. I trust that a good number of them are not Catholic as the Pope would define Catholic. Unfortunately, they're probably not--they're much worse. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blogger Threatened With Palin Lawsuit - Bring it on, Sarah
Alex Stanley wrote: It's actually pretty scary that a mud-dumb hillbilly like Palin Sexism: Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century, refers to the belief or attitude that one gender or sex is inferior to, less competent, or less valuable than the other. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism Prejudice: A prejudice is an implicitly held belief, often about a group of people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice is seeking a stronger role in national politics, when she clearly has never read the Constitution. Propaganda: Propaganda is communication aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda Frankly, I doubt she even knows it exists. Hyperbole: ...a figure of speech in which statements are exaggerated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exaggeration
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
I have been watching this Inter-Galactic war going on between the two of you for a long time. I would like to be the Judge here and pass the decree. Sal-ji stance : Palin's ideology is anti-women. Raunchy-ji stance : No woman deserves Sexist attack, no matter what her ideology is. Judgement : both are partialy right. a Slave who believes in slavery and inferiorty of his community must be criticised but not be attacked for his race or community. A woman who believes in the inferiorty of her gender must be critisised but still she must not be attacked in a sexist way. There is a phenomena called collective madness. millions of Women who were deformed by the dangerous crippling custom in China called foot binding for thousands of years, were the ones who in turn binded the foot of their own daughters.!! only Women in india who pay outrageous dowry to get married in turn demand the same dowry from their daughter-in-laws.!! The sati system in india were encouraged by women also. only Women in Middle-east and North-africa who for thousands of years were mutilated by the barbaric custom of female circumsision(mutilation) in turn performed the same female circumsision on their own daughters.! Victims themselves become victimisers. How to break this vicious cycle. How to break this dangerous dogma called Collective madness'. For thousands of years women themselves participated in the suppression and oppression of women.!! All this barbaric dogmatic customs which I mentioned above were actualy performed by women on women.!! the men only indirectly encouraged this. always remember Voltaire who once said, Only fools revere the chains that bind them. Semitic religions (christianity, Islam) have created a guilt complex in the psych of women by the stupid semitic version of Genesis. Pre-christian religions in eruope and mid-east even had women priests and were more egalatarian. Christian fucks and muslim fucks totally changed the status of women to wall-flowers. I think about a decad ago, I just could not believe when Iran tried to reform is social system and give freedom to women and,, all Iranian women took to the streets protesting AGAINST the freedom simply because their muslim fuck religion and their 'Jehadi supramacist fucks' preached their gender is inferior. --- On Tue, 7/7/09, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate Which goes right to the heart of the idiocy you and a few others have been pushing here... without a woman's right to choose, there *is* no feminism, as the right to choose goes right to the heart of what it means to woman in today's world, and all the attendant choices and decisions that flow from that. Saying she's a feminist except for the abortion thing is like saying someone believes in democracy except for the free elections thing. Doesn't work, and it never will. Take your head out of your ass for five minutes and look around. Sal On Jul 7, 2009, at 7:06 AM, raunchydog wrote: Palin considers herself a feminist, and except for the abortion thing, she's more explicitly feminist than the average American.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Maharishi's commentary on Chapter 7 of the Bhagavad-Gita
nablusoss wrote: Maharishi's genius dictated the commentaries, Vernon did the english language bit and edited the Sanskrit. Well, the Sanskrit used in the Bhagavad Gita has been set for thousands of years, according to Vyasa and Pannini, so there wouldn't be any editing of the Sanskrit. The English translation has been available since at least 1700 A.D. But Marshy's purport is pure Marshy, no doubt about that. I don't think the Marshy needed any help explaining how TM works - he didn't seem to be at a loss for words when I was visiting him. If you read the purport, you'll see that Marshy is saying the same thing over and over, since at least 1954. But if you read other BG commentaries, there's no TM mentioned in them at all. So, in that respect, Marshy's BG is unique. Kjell Mortensen printed the first version of which I have a few white versions, gilded and covered in silk ment for Dignitaries, and said they had to dig very deep into the archives of his family-printing-business to find that ageold typeface for the Sanskrit.
[FairfieldLife] Guru Purnimah Day
http://www.maharishichannel.in/ channel 3
[FairfieldLife] Warehouse 13 Tonight
New series on SyFy (formally Sci-Fi) debuts tonight (check listings for time and channel). Might be fun, might be a dog. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1132290/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: snip Just because arguably she is an authentic feminist doesn't mean that I have to like her or that I can't find her idiotic. Straw man. Nobody said otherwise. I want the best and the brightest. Not that we get it, but that is what I want. Are you suggesting anybody *doesn't* want the best and brightest? But yes, in the rabid take down of Palin sexist statements are made. But that does not mean sexism is the cause of her fall. If she has a fall. Straw man. Nobody said it was the cause of her fall. Would the sexism somehow be less appalling if she fell for other reasons?
[FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin -- my prediction
I said this way back when, the *first* time that Sarah Palin became a nonentity, but it's worth saying again because she refuses to stay one. I don't think that even *she* is stupid enough to believe that she could be elected President. Besides, being President involves actual *work*, and Sarah Palin's record indicates that she really doesn't *like* work. She has been described even by her *friends* as phoning in her work as Governor. She quit her first gig as a city council- woman, quit her gig on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, and now she's quit as governor. The woman has an absolute *aversion* to work. What she *likes* is being on camera, being the center of attention, and being able to talk to a captive audience. So that's my bet for what she'll wind up doing. She'll become a TV talk show host / televangelist. After all, she was already on the evangelist path (about to become a member of her Pentecostalist Church's traveling missionaries or commission students) when she got herself knocked up and got sidetracked into her first shot at being a nonentity. Besides, as evidenced by all the talk-show hosts who get away with being drug addicts and idiots, and all the TV preachers who get away with even more, it's the perfect gig for Sarah because *there is no accountability*. She believes that she can get away with pretty much anything if she just smiles pretty for the camera and runs her Miss Congeniality number and talks about Jzus enough. And the ongoing success of the TV talk show hosts and TV preachers indicates that she may be right about this. Mark my words...politics is *not* in Sarah Palin's future. It's not flashy enough for her, and it involves actual work. She's going to take the same route that other lazy, unintelligent slackers like Rush Limbaugh have taken in the past. And she'll be a ratings goddess when she does, because even those who despise her will watch her. For them it'll be like watching a train wreck, but they'll still be watching, their eyeballs glued to the screen. And that's all that's necessary to get ratings.
[FairfieldLife] Listen tonight !
http://www.maharishichannel.in/ Channel 3
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnimah Day
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: http://www.maharishichannel.in/ channel 3 Maharishi was NOT a guru, nor does Guru Dev qualify as 'your' Guru if you are a TM'er. Basically, you don't have a Guru, but some day may. As Mr. Lutes said, MMY is a world teacher, you get the technique and you're on your own. A Guru's role is more intimate and personal than a general teacher of Yoga like MMY, some day, when you're ready, a Guru will appear, for YOU! IMHO, of course! This mood making on the Mchannel is a bit much to stomach.
[FairfieldLife] Morther Divine giving presentations - now !
http://www.maharishichannel.in/
[FairfieldLife] This Modern World - Palin Cartoon of the Day
Palin's star dims but still twinkles in GOP universe - By Tom Tomorrow Cartoon of the Day: http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2009/07/07/tomo/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnimah Day
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.maharishichannel.in/ channel 3 Maharishi was NOT a guru, nor does Guru Dev qualify as 'your' Guru if you are a TM'er. You seem to be very clear in your communications Billy, but how much do you really know ? Maharishi was certainly only your Guru if you had a personal invitation from Him. He invited but a few souls to become His Disciples. Regarding becoming a Disciple of Guru Dev, a few lucky individuals have become His Disciples, even long after His passing. Amongst them also a few americans. Their Sattwa in life created this fortunate situation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin -- my prediction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I said this way back when, the *first* time that Sarah Palin became a nonentity, but it's worth saying again because she refuses to stay one. I don't think that even *she* is stupid enough to believe that she could be elected President. Besides, being President involves actual *work*, and Sarah Palin's record indicates that she really doesn't *like* work. She has been described even by her *friends* as phoning in her work as Governor. She quit her first gig as a city council- woman, quit her gig on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, and now she's quit as governor. The woman has an absolute *aversion* to work. What she *likes* is being on camera, being the center of attention, and being able to talk to a captive audience. So that's my bet for what she'll wind up doing. She'll become a TV talk show host / televangelist. After all, she was already on the evangelist path (about to become a member of her Pentecostalist Church's traveling missionaries or commission students) when she got herself knocked up and got sidetracked into her first shot at being a nonentity. Besides, as evidenced by all the talk-show hosts who get away with being drug addicts and idiots, and all the TV preachers who get away with even more, it's the perfect gig for Sarah because *there is no accountability*. She believes that she can get away with pretty much anything if she just smiles pretty for the camera and runs her Miss Congeniality number and talks about Jzus enough. And the ongoing success of the TV talk show hosts and TV preachers indicates that she may be right about this. Mark my words...politics is *not* in Sarah Palin's future. It's not flashy enough for her, and it involves actual work. She's going to take the same route that other lazy, unintelligent slackers like Rush Limbaugh have taken in the past. And she'll be a ratings goddess when she does, because even those who despise her will watch her. For them it'll be like watching a train wreck, but they'll still be watching, their eyeballs glued to the screen. And that's all that's necessary to get ratings. Sarah Palin quote of the day: I think on a national level, your department of law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out, Palin said. There is no Department of Law at the White House. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/07/palin-says-she-is-not-a-quitter/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnimah Day
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: You seem to be very clear in your communications Billy, but how much do you really know ? MMY himself NEVER claimed to be a Guru!! What's wrong with that? What, you think he needs a promotion, why not just be grateful for what you have gotten from him, the TM technique!? Maharishi was certainly only your Guru if you had a personal invitation from Him. He invited but a few souls to become His Disciples. MMY never invited me to become his Disciple, MMY had NO disciples I know of, other than those who've proclaimed it for themselves perhaps. MMY was not a Swami, he was a Maharishi, great teacher, not Guru. Regarding becoming a Disciple of Guru Dev, a few lucky individuals have become His Disciples, even long after His passing. Amongst them also a few americans. Their Sattwa in life created this fortunate situation. Don't know about that...could be. Why can't we just accept MMY for who and what he was and what he gave us, he never even claimed he was enlightened. Hey, TM worksisn't that good enough, do we have to elevate him to God. The only people who do that, do that because it makes *THEM* feel good, as if they have been blessed by God, personally, it's nothing but ego. MMY didn't even teach the full Yoga! TM is a good start for a Lng Journey. I doubt if anybody has even achieved CC practicing TM, even MMY didn't practice TM most likely, but that is another enigma MMY left us!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin -- my prediction
TurquoiseB wrote: I said this way back when, the *first* time that Sarah Palin became a nonentity, but it's worth saying again because she refuses to stay one. I don't think that even *she* is stupid enough to believe that she could be elected President. Besides, being President involves actual *work*, and Sarah Palin's record indicates that she really doesn't *like* work. She has been described even by her *friends* as phoning in her work as Governor. She quit her first gig as a city council- woman, quit her gig on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, and now she's quit as governor. The woman has an absolute *aversion* to work. Psychological projection (or projection bias) is when a person's personal attributes, thoughts, and/or emotions are ascribed onto another person or people. Psychological projection: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection What she *likes* is being on camera, being the center of attention, and being able to talk to a captive audience. So that's my bet for what she'll wind up doing. She'll become a TV talk show host / televangelist. After all, she was already on the evangelist path (about to become a member of her Pentecostalist Church's traveling missionaries or commission students) when she got herself knocked up and got sidetracked into her first shot at being a nonentity. Besides, as evidenced by all the talk-show hosts who get away with being drug addicts and idiots, and all the TV preachers who get away with even more, it's the perfect gig for Sarah because *there is no accountability*. She believes that she can get away with pretty much anything if she just smiles pretty for the camera and runs her Miss Congeniality number and talks about Jzus enough. And the ongoing success of the TV talk show hosts and TV preachers indicates that she may be right about this. Mark my words...politics is *not* in Sarah Palin's future. It's not flashy enough for her, and it involves actual work. She's going to take the same route that other lazy, unintelligent slackers like Rush Limbaugh have taken in the past. And she'll be a ratings goddess when she does, because even those who despise her will watch her. For them it'll be like watching a train wreck, but they'll still be watching, their eyeballs glued to the screen. And that's all that's necessary to get ratings.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnimah Day
He sold consciousness.?? or He 'sold out' consciousness.?? --- On Tue, 7/7/09, BillyG. wg...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnimah Day Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 1:18 PM MMY himself NEVER claimed to be a Guru!! What's wrong with that? What, you think he needs a promotion, why not just be grateful for what you have gotten from him, the TM technique!? Maharishi was certainly only your Guru if you had a personal invitation from Him. He invited but a few souls to become His Disciples. MMY never invited me to become his Disciple, MMY had NO disciples I know of, other than those who've proclaimed it for themselves perhaps. MMY was not a Swami, he was a Maharishi, great teacher, not Guru. Regarding becoming a Disciple of Guru Dev, a few lucky individuals have become His Disciples, even long after His passing. Amongst them also a few americans. Their Sattwa in life created this fortunate situation. Don't know about that...could be. Why can't we just accept MMY for who and what he was and what he gave us, he never even claimed he was enlightened. Hey, TM worksisn' t that good enough, do we have to elevate him to God. The only people who do that, do that because it makes *THEM* feel good, as if they have been blessed by God, personally, it's nothing but ego. MMY didn't even teach the full Yoga! TM is a good start for a Lng Journey. I doubt if anybody has even achieved CC practicing TM, even MMY didn't practice TM most likely, but that is another enigma MMY left us!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin -- my prediction
do.rflex wrote: There is no Department of Law at the White House. Barak Obama is a lawyer in the White House, but I think the real Department of Law is his wife, Michelle. Apparently Michelle is the lawyer that lays down the law in the White House. Unfortunately for the big guy, Michelle Obama is along for the trip and was on hand for the speech, so the president is almost certain to get an earful... Read more: 'Barack Obama proves to be mortal' By Josh Gerstein Politico, July 7, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/kpqszc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnimah Day
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: You seem to be very clear in your communications Billy, but how much do you really know ? MMY himself NEVER claimed to be a Guru!! What's wrong with that? What, you think he needs a promotion, why not just be grateful for what you have gotten from him, the TM technique!? Good point, but to many people, by His invitation, He was more than just a Teacher. Maharishi was certainly only your Guru if you had a personal invitation from Him. He invited but a few souls to become His Disciples. MMY never invited me to become his Disciple, MMY had NO disciples I know of, other than those who've proclaimed it for themselves perhaps. MMY was not a Swami, he was a Maharishi, great teacher, not Guru. OK, I value your point which is certainly valid. Simply because you do not know any of Maharishi's disciples does not mean they do not exscist. Regarding becoming a Disciple of Guru Dev, a few lucky individuals have become His Disciples, even long after His passing. Amongst them also a few americans. Their Sattwa in life created this fortunate situation. Don't know about that...could be. Why can't we just accept MMY for who and what he was and what he gave us, he never even claimed he was enlightened Correct. I as see it there is no movement towards elevating Maharishi to Godhead. That would certainly go against His own words about Himself. Hey, TM worksisn't that good enough, do we have to elevate him to God. For me this is a very beautiful point. Maharishi certainly did not want to play God - and TM simply works. TM is good enough, as you say. Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: I want the best and the brightest. Not that we get it, but that is what I want. Are you suggesting anybody *doesn't* want the best and brightest? I think a large number of voters actually *don't* want the best and brightest. There's a strong current of anti-intellectualism running through the conservative base, hence their disdain for the liberal elite, as if intellectual and scholarly excellence is a bad thing. These people want a president who is like them, ordinary and absolutely *not* best, brightest, or elite... basically, someone with whom they'd be comfortable drinking beer and talking sports.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnimah Day
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: MMY didn't even teach the full Yoga! Of course not, He did not have time for such. He was busy saving your country and the West from self-destruction.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnimah Day
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: MMY didn't even teach the full Yoga! Of course not, He did not have time for such. He was busy saving your country and the West from self-destruction. That's right, just think if MMY came to the West teaching all of Patanjali's 8 limbs of Yoga..he wouldn't have gotten to first base. MMY's real goal has always been the institution of Vedic culture World wide, and it's a laudable goal, the World needs it. A Guru, or a Sat-Guru as they say (because he must be enlightened and sent by God) on the other hand has as his first purpose YOUR evolution, he's not worried about World affairs but about YOUR affairs, he came to guide YOU to God! And he's not going to beat around the bush with fancy lingo and scientific studies, either you're ready OR you're not!! I don't know is there are ANY Sat-Gurus on the planet today, lots of pretenders that's for sure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: I want the best and the brightest. Not that we get it, but that is what I want. Are you suggesting anybody *doesn't* want the best and brightest? I think a large number of voters actually *don't* want the best and brightest. There's a strong current of anti-intellectualism running through the conservative base, hence their disdain for the liberal elite, as if intellectual and scholarly excellence is a bad thing. These people want a president who is like them, ordinary and absolutely *not* best, brightest, or elite... basically, someone with whom they'd be comfortable drinking beer and talking sports. I think it's that they have different ideas about what constitutes the best and brightest than we do. They don't think intellectual and scholarly excellence is all that effective on a practical basis (the ivory tower syndrome). They'd rather have somebody who has the kind of smarts necessary to empathize with ordinary folks and understand their needs and how to fulfill them, and they don't think book-larnin' fosters that ability.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jul 7, 2009, at 7:06 AM, raunchydog wrote: Palin considers herself a feminist, and except for the abortion thing, she's more explicitly feminist than the average American. Which goes right to the heart of the idiocy you and a few others have been pushing here... without a woman's right to choose, there *is* no feminism, as the right to choose goes right to the heart of what it means to woman in today's world, and all the attendant choices and decisions that flow from that. Actually, there are pro-lifers and pro-lifers. Some of them are against abortion because they want to be able to control women's sexuality; others are against abortion because they genuinely believe it amounts to the murder of a human being. One way you can tell the difference is whether the person is in favor of contraception education. Those who are against abortion because they want to control women's sexuality are against it because effective contraception means women can have sex without worrying about the repercussions of pregnancy--even though there would be fewer unwanted pregnancies and fewer abortions. Palin is on the record as saying children need to be educated about contraception. Another way you can tell the difference is whether the person would make an exception for rape or incest. Those who are interested only in controlling women's sexuality will make such an exception. If it's not the woman's fault that she got pregnant, then it's just too bad for that innocent life. Palin doesn't make that exception. The only exception she makes is if the woman's life is threatened by the pregnancy. There are other ways to make this distinction, but these are two of the biggest tells. Bottom line, Palin puts her religious belief in the sanctity of human life, beginning at conception, over a woman's right to choose. I don't agree with this, but I can respect it as a deeply felt belief, and I don't see it as inherently sexist; I don't think it somehow negates her feminist principles. The pro-lifers on the other side of the coin, who want to control women's sexuality, are a different story altogether. They're hypocrites and unquestionably anti- feminists. Saying she's a feminist except for the abortion thing is like saying someone believes in democracy except for the free elections thing. Doesn't work, and it never will. Take your head out of your ass for five minutes and look around. Maybe if Stupid Sal took *her* head out of her ass once in a while, she'd learn that not everything is quite as black and white as she'd like to believe.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley These people want a president who is like them, ordinary and absolutely *not* best, brightest, or elite... basically, someone with whom they'd be comfortable drinking beer and talking sports. At least the americans did not get yet another President that likes to kill animals for fun/meat.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin -- my prediction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip I don't think that even *she* is stupid enough to believe that she could be elected President. Besides, being President involves actual *work*, and Sarah Palin's record indicates that she really doesn't *like* work. She has been described even by her *friends* as phoning in her work as Governor. She quit her first gig as a city council- woman, quit her gig on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, and now she's quit as governor. The woman has an absolute *aversion* to work. That's not true, actually. In each case, she quit in order to take on more responsibility. Before McCain tapped her for VP, she'd gotten a tremendous amount done as governor. She had the Dems in the Alaska legislature on her side because she'd been giving the Republicans a hard time. During the campaign, the Dems, understandably, turned on her; and since then, she hasn't been able to get any of her bills passed or her appointments approved. That may be one of the reasons she resigned, because she can't get anything done. She believes that she can get away with pretty much anything if she just smiles pretty for the camera and runs her Miss Congeniality number and talks about Jzus enough. Actually, she talks very little about Jesus.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip Sarah Palin represents one and only one thing to these idiots. She stands for the idea that a woman who has an opinion *must* be listened to, simply because she has an opinion. My goodness, I wonder what triggered *this* hallucination from Barry. It may be a function of his My mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts attitude. He doesn't seem to realize that before you can reject someone's opinion, you have to know what it *is*. The opinion doesn't have to make sense, it doesn't have to be based on fact, and it doesn't matter whether no one is the least bit interested in the opinion. The only thing that matters is that the woman has an opinion. That's *enough* for her to deserve to be listened to. But Barry doesn't think Palin should be listened to long enough to *tell* whether her opinions make sense, are based on fact, etc. And is there any question about *why* these two think this? That's what they believe about *their* opinions as well. Except that they *don't* think this, of course. My personal opinion for why Palin resigned is that in a fit of narcissistic ego she tried the same stunt that Edg just pulled on FFL. She demanded that the voters of Alaska vote for her to stay, or she'd feel unwanted and stalk off in a snit. Er, well, no, she didn't do that. She hasn't left herself any wiggle room at all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Guru Purnima and pics from West Virginia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, min.pige min.p...@... wrote: where are the pics? please! Here's a PDF file of the original post, with pics: http://alex.natel.net/ffl/documents/Happy%20Guru%20Purnima%20and%20pics%20from%20West%20Virginia.pdf http://is.gd/1pUgU : thanks so much, i never saw this MMY pic before. does anyone know where exactly in WV this building is taking place? Near Romney, about 3hr drive south and east of the Hare Krishna New Vrindaban site in WV, if you were curious: http://snipurl.com/mbijn [www_herald-mail_com] http://snipurl.com/mbhwg [www_bing_com]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Washington Post's Eugene Robinson on Palin's resignation . . .
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: Washington Post's Eugene Robinson on Palin's resignation... raunchydog wrote: Robinson, a black man, without any sense of irony at all complains about the sexist card but never made a peep about Obama playing the race card. LOL. Yeah, and I don't recall reading any complaints from Robinson about the sexist card played against Hillary Clinton during the last election. You guy's don't give Hillary enough credit, for her toughness, and for having the 'Balls' to run, in the first place... Guy's like Robinson, recognized Obama's political genius, early on...that's all... If you had an once of 'political spirit' during the campaign, the only real 'choice' was Obama, all the way... 'Sexism and Racism has been with us all, a long time... To keep focusing on it, just perpetuates that nasty energy... Time to move on... r.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin -- my prediction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I don't think that even *she* is stupid enough to believe that she could be elected President. Besides, being President involves actual *work*, and Sarah Palin's record indicates that she really doesn't *like* work. She has been described even by her *friends* as phoning in her work as Governor. She quit her first gig as a city council- woman, quit her gig on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, and now she's quit as governor. The woman has an absolute *aversion* to work. That's not true, actually. In each case, she quit in order to take on more responsibility. Before McCain tapped her for VP, she'd gotten a tremendous amount done as governor. She had the Dems in the Alaska legislature on her side because she'd been giving the Republicans a hard time. During the campaign, the Dems, understandably, turned on her; and since then, she hasn't been able to get any of her bills passed or her appointments approved. That may be one of the reasons she resigned, because she can't get anything done. She believes that she can get away with pretty much anything if she just smiles pretty for the camera and runs her Miss Congeniality number and talks about Jzus enough. Actually, she talks very little about Jesus. Actually, the more we see of Sarah Palin, the more we recognize, that she is a psycho case... r.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: I want the best and the brightest. Not that we get it, but that is what I want. Are you suggesting anybody *doesn't* want the best and brightest? I think a large number of voters actually *don't* want the best and brightest. There's a strong current of anti-intellectualism running through the conservative base, hence their disdain for the liberal elite, as if intellectual and scholarly excellence is a bad thing. These people want a president who is like them, ordinary and absolutely *not* best, brightest, or elite... basically, someone with whom they'd be comfortable drinking beer and talking sports. There is a large red-neck, Hill Billy mentality, that runs through parts of the Kentucky, West Virgina, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, Ohio, and some other god-forsaken places... That take 'Pride in being Ignorant'... r.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin in another lie says ethics complaints cost Alaska millions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: snip Strangely, she quoted again the sum of money that ethics complaints against her had cost the state. Millions, she said. Two million. Yesterday's headline in the Anchorage Daily News tallied up the cost at $296,000, with the bulk of that stemming from the Troopergate investigation of last summer. http://snipurl.com/mazxv [www_huffingtonpost_com] From the Anchorage Daily News: ...Palin said Monday she didn't view the cost as just the $300,000 for the personnel board -- but rather $2 million for the state. It is a figure her administration now uses -- not meant to be actual checks written by the state but to also reflect time of state employees. It is a per-hour calculation that the Palin administration put together, involving time spent by state lawyers deciding which public information to release as a result of all public records requests, time spent by governor's office staffers responding to media inquiries about ethics complaints, and time technicians spend on retrieving requested e-mail, among other things Read more: http://www.adn.com/palin/story/855907.html
[FairfieldLife] Talks by Alan Watts
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley These people want a president who is like them, ordinary and absolutely *not* best, brightest, or elite... basically, someone with whom they'd be comfortable drinking beer and talking sports. At least the americans did not get yet another President that likes to kill animals for fun/meat. So, you're ok with meat eaters, like President Obama, as long as they they pay someone else to kill their meat for them?
[FairfieldLife] Arguing on the Internet [1 Attachment]
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[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Sarah Palin represents one and only one thing to these idiots. She stands for the idea that a woman who has an opinion *must* be listened to, simply because she has an opinion. My goodness, I wonder what triggered *this* hallucination from Barry. It may be a function of his My mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts attitude. He doesn't seem to realize that before you can reject someone's opinion, you have to know what it *is*. The opinion doesn't have to make sense, it doesn't have to be based on fact, and it doesn't matter whether no one is the least bit interested in the opinion. The only thing that matters is that the woman has an opinion. That's *enough* for her to deserve to be listened to. Sounds like Barry is talking about himself...again. [Barry's] opinion doesn't have to make sense, it doesn't have to be based on fact, and it doesn't matter whether no one is the least bit interested in [his] opinion. The only thing that matters is [Barry's] opinion. But Barry doesn't think Palin should be listened to long enough to *tell* whether her opinions make sense, are based on fact, etc. And is there any question about *why* these two think this? That's what they believe about *their* opinions as well. Except that they *don't* think this, of course. My personal opinion for why Palin resigned is that in a fit of narcissistic ego she tried the same stunt that Edg just pulled on FFL. She demanded that the voters of Alaska vote for her to stay, or she'd feel unwanted and stalk off in a snit. Er, well, no, she didn't do that. She hasn't left herself any wiggle room at all.
[FairfieldLife] I talked to God in Fairfield
How this all started was with asking god for truth on things, such as the celestial nervous system. I manafested answers that by asking the relative God or the absolute for truth on things I had questions about. For example, I asked for truth on what happens when you die enlightened and 24 hours later I got in a conversation with someone who then sent me an email of the posting on the pleiadians. This lead up to one night God comming to me before I went to sleep and started speaking to me. There were a few other meditators came along and started listening to my conversation. I was a student at the time and all of them listening were students. One thing I remember from the conversation was when God told me I was wrong on everything; everything my parents taught me and everything I knew was wrong. This was of course when I was going to school at MUM and was having a hard time knowing if what my parents taught me was really right. After he convinced me that I was wrong on everything I was sitting in an egoless state like everything from my heart was gone. Then after sitting in this state for a few moments he then said you're right on everything, everything you know is right. This is when I saw reality in a different light like I saw the grand truth of life. I saw it in the most beautiful way, It made me cry when I was in this state. I saw it like it was just a joke. After about an hour of being in this state It got old and I wanted to come back to my normal life and I thought the only thing you're suppose to know is you're not suppose to know. I continued my conversation with the other students listening and participated for a few days. One thing I remember God saying was Being and doing were two differnent things. There's a lot to this conversation but I don't remember it. At this time I was taking the Siddhis program and when I went in the evening there was a lot of energy in the room. God then asked me if I'd do something for him and I said yes. Right then the Siddhis instructor looked at me and said Shain do you have any experiances to share I then calmly walked to the front of the room got on the stage and said I talk with God, he's talking through me right now and he wants everyone to know that Maharishi Makes mistakes as well as him and me. I then calmly went back to my seat and the instructor said Shain we'll talk after the instuction. This was all with absolutely no anxiety and the room seemed like nothing happened at all, All of my actions were spontaneously right. People afterwords said see you tomarrrow Shain or have a good day, like Nothing happened at all. When I went up to talk to the instructor he was sitting there and said that he was concerned and we had an entire conversation without any anxiety whatsoever. This was all with me not making any mistakes doing all movements and actions absolutely correct: If he moved in I would shift my legs or anything else that was spontaenously right. But out of all of this I would make mistakes like my shoes being untied and me tieing them or me saying that I missed my mediations. Then I walked out peace palaces and walked through the snow and I remember God taking me through the trailor park saying how millions would listen and I don't remember the rest. I remember everything was spontaeously right and I laid down in the snow and put my hand up to something. I also remember the crossroads at the park they were there and I made a choice where to go and I chose a direction (don't remember what they meant). I also rememer being asked what I want to do the big thing rated at a 5 or the small thing rated at a 3 and I of course chose the big thing. I also remember someone, I think it was my spirit guide, who said you don't have to go through this, but I ignored it. After this I walked back to my vastu dorm a car with security guards came to pick me up. While they were taking me back I said outloud I make mistakes. I said something else but I don't remember what I said. When we arrived at the vastu they had quite a few of the people in the movement there. They were checking on me asking quetions and I remember saying things to some of them that God told me to say. They took one of the people listening, a freind of mine, into the next room and he told them his experiance. They then took me to the hospital and gave me some medication and told my dad to come get me immediately from Wyoming. They then took me back to a trailor with two people from the school. That night I went through the Polarity of Fear it was a scary experiance. It said at the begining I could be something to help everyone forever and I agreed. It then got scary as it said once you're in you cannot get out and started and I remember people such as my dad comming in it said one has to stay forever and it kept getting more scary. I don't remember how long this lasted but after a while it stopped. The next day it seemed
[FairfieldLife] Another hysterical feminist speaks out
This feminist's name is Peter Daou. He was Internet Director for Hillary Clinton for President. Palin-Bashing and Hillary-Bashing: The Same Thing? The explosion of Palin-bashing (and yes, it's bashing, justified or not) across the political spectrum reminds me of a campaign that happened a lifetime ago. Back then, Hillary Clinton reprised her role as the political world's favorite target. Attacking her was elevated to an art form; participants of all stripes joined in. It was the pinnacle of bipartisanship; right and left hammering away at her in an all-out assault that ultimately cost her the nomination. I don't want to rehash whether or not any of it was warranted - I'm more interested in another angle that's been completely overlooked in the torrent of punditocracy about Palin's resignation. It's that Sarah Palin, like Hillary Clinton, is a person, a human being, a mom, a wife, a daughter, once a little girl. Vulnerable, like all of us. Self-centered, like all of us. Fragile, like all of us. Opinionated, like all of us. Defensive, like all of us. Deceptive, like all of us. Lost, like all of us. And totally wrong on the issues as far as I'm concerned. Unlike Clinton, Palin didn't have time to develop the layers of thick skin required to handle the withering glare of the national celeb/politico spotlight, a glare that for some reason shines much more harshly on women like Palin and Clinton. For three years I lived the gulf between Hillary Clinton's image as an inhuman, Borg-like ambition- machine eager to destroy or assimilate everything in her path and the all-too-human, funny, considerate person her friends have the privilege of knowing. When a reporter implied that Hillary Clinton was `pimping' her daughter, Hillary's private reaction was as emotional as any mother's would be - it was a stark illustration (and there were many) of the chasm between the public image and the private person. With Palin, we should also keep the public/private distinction in mind. ...All I ask of my fellow Democrats and progressives is that no matter how wrong-headed Palin's policies, no matter how inconsistent her rationale for stepping down, and no matter how muddled her infamous press conference, we remember that she is the rare public figure who for some reason attracts infinite interest and attention, much of it negative. Granted, you ask for scrutiny when you enter public service, but not this much, not so quickly. She may not have Hillary Clinton's character or experience to cope with the spotlight, but even if she did, it behooves us to avoid outright viciousness and mockery on a level that few of us could handle. http://www.considerthisnews.com/index.php/site/thefeed/palin-bashing_and_hillary-bashing_the_same_thing/ http://tinyurl.com/l9wr44
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Feminist Receptacle for Hate
Jason, While I appreciate your awareness of atrocities against women by women, in the broader context of culturally sanctioned misogyny, what drives it? What do you imagine would happen to a woman who refused to circumcise or bind her daughter's feet? The penalty in such primitive societies is probably death. It's a kill or be killed circumstance so you can't lay the blame solely on the women. Further, what does it have to do with the discussion? Your paternalistic attempt to split the baby, by reducing my argument with Sal to a one-liner fails to put us on an equal footing. FAR from it, in fact. Sal-ji stance : Palin's ideology is anti-women. Judy did a fine job of poking holes in Sal's ignorance of Palin's ACTUAL (rather than imagined) position on pro-life issues. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/224054 Raunchy-ji stance : No woman deserves Sexist attack, no matter what her ideology is. This is a principled feminist stand. It is a pro-woman stand. Are the women who are pro-life more deserving of sexist attacks than pro-choice? Of course not. But this is exactly Sal's argument. She thinks, for the shallowest of reasons, that Palin deserves attacks, political, sexist, or otherwise. She believes as the title of this post states: Sarah Palin is a receptacle for hate. I have said this several times and so has Judy: There is plenty to criticize about Plain's politics without attacking her for her sex or lying about her. By the way I didn't write this. It is a quote. Palin considers herself a feminist, and except for the abortion thing, she's more explicitly feminist than the average American.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another hysterical feminist speaks out
Great article. Peter Daou, gotta love him. In Defense of Sarah Palin describes the dilemma of women in politics: Feminist scholars have studied the double-bind of woman political leaders for a while now. Women leaders are faced with a dilemma a still-patriachical political world imposes on them: women must either trade their likeability in return for male respect; or they preserve their likeability but lose men's respect for them in exchange. When it comes to women in positions of political power in the world that we know, they cannot be both likeable and respected. Unlike men, they cannot have their cake and eat it as well. This is not the world I like, but it is the world I see. Read more: http://tinyurl.com/mz9xmq http://blog.oup.com/2009/07/defense-palin/ The Confluence had a --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: This feminist's name is Peter Daou. He was Internet Director for Hillary Clinton for President. Palin-Bashing and Hillary-Bashing: The Same Thing? The explosion of Palin-bashing (and yes, it's bashing, justified or not) across the political spectrum reminds me of a campaign that happened a lifetime ago. Back then, Hillary Clinton reprised her role as the political world's favorite target. Attacking her was elevated to an art form; participants of all stripes joined in. It was the pinnacle of bipartisanship; right and left hammering away at her in an all-out assault that ultimately cost her the nomination. I don't want to rehash whether or not any of it was warranted - I'm more interested in another angle that's been completely overlooked in the torrent of punditocracy about Palin's resignation. It's that Sarah Palin, like Hillary Clinton, is a person, a human being, a mom, a wife, a daughter, once a little girl. Vulnerable, like all of us. Self-centered, like all of us. Fragile, like all of us. Opinionated, like all of us. Defensive, like all of us. Deceptive, like all of us. Lost, like all of us. And totally wrong on the issues as far as I'm concerned. Unlike Clinton, Palin didn't have time to develop the layers of thick skin required to handle the withering glare of the national celeb/politico spotlight, a glare that for some reason shines much more harshly on women like Palin and Clinton. For three years I lived the gulf between Hillary Clinton's image as an inhuman, Borg-like ambition- machine eager to destroy or assimilate everything in her path and the all-too-human, funny, considerate person her friends have the privilege of knowing. When a reporter implied that Hillary Clinton was `pimping' her daughter, Hillary's private reaction was as emotional as any mother's would be - it was a stark illustration (and there were many) of the chasm between the public image and the private person. With Palin, we should also keep the public/private distinction in mind. ...All I ask of my fellow Democrats and progressives is that no matter how wrong-headed Palin's policies, no matter how inconsistent her rationale for stepping down, and no matter how muddled her infamous press conference, we remember that she is the rare public figure who for some reason attracts infinite interest and attention, much of it negative. Granted, you ask for scrutiny when you enter public service, but not this much, not so quickly. She may not have Hillary Clinton's character or experience to cope with the spotlight, but even if she did, it behooves us to avoid outright viciousness and mockery on a level that few of us could handle. http://www.considerthisnews.com/index.php/site/thefeed/palin-bashing_and_hillary-bashing_the_same_thing/ http://tinyurl.com/l9wr44
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin in another lie says ethics complaints cost Alaska millions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Palin says ethics inquiries were paralyzing ...Palin said Monday she didn't view the cost as just the $300,000 for the personnel board -- but rather $2 million for the state. It is a figure her administration now uses -- not meant to be actual checks written by the state but to also reflect time of state employees. It is a per-hour calculation that the Palin administration put together, involving time spent by state lawyers deciding which public information to release as a result of all public records requests, time spent by governor's office staffers responding to media inquiries about ethics complaints, and time technicians spend on retrieving requested e-mail, among other things Read more: http://www.adn.com/palin/story/855907.html Just how paralyzing were Palin's ethics inquiries? Here's a list of Ethics complaints filed against Palin Her enemies keep throwing allegations at her and NOTHING STICKS. http://tinyurl.com/l9kk9f http://www.adn.com/palin/story/838912.html Here's how rumor mongering about Palin works: TV Talking Head doing CYA's: I don't know for sure but this is what I heard [fill in the blank] I don't know if this is true, but I heard she is under some serious legal investigation by [fill in the blank] Get the rumor out there. Whether true or fair Facts don't matter On TV chatter. While they're screwing you Entitlement is their due Once a rumor has begun Then forever, bell un-rung Reputation scuttled Never mind rebuttal raunchydog
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Guru Purnima and pics from West Virginia
Near Romney, about 3hr drive south and east of the Hare Krishna New Vrindaban site in WV, if you were curious: http://snipurl.com/mbijn [www_herald-mail_com] http://snipurl.com/mbhwg [www_bing_com] Thanks! The state slogan used to be Almost Heaven, West Virginia, now it's West Virginia, Open for Business.
[FairfieldLife] 'Palin Pregnant? Stayed Tuned...'
It's been rumored on 'Air America' That the 'real reason'..for Sarah's resignation as Gov... Is because she went and got herself, pregnant, again... In search of what's behind, Palin's decision, Randy Rhodes, of Air America, is guessing... She pregnant... r.g.
[FairfieldLife] 'Palin Pregnant? Stayed Tuned...'
It's been rumored on 'Air America' That the 'real reason'..for Sarah's resignation as Gov... Is because she went and got herself, pregnant, again... In search of what's behind, Palin's decision, Randy Rhodes, of Air America, is guessing... She's pregnant... r.g.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Carbs is good
Oh yeah, and watch kapha people get fatter. Fragmented medicine at your service. bob_brigante wrote: http://snipurl.com/mc42y [timesofindia_indiatimes_com] and veggie amino acid good for blood pressure : http://snipurl.com/mc46g [timesofindia_indiatimes_com]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arguing on the Internet
- (snip) Oh, why don't you just shut the F' up? Ya just a bunch of bastard kids, all of ya' all... Man, what a bunch of idiots... Retardo Mucho! Now, lets git goin' boys!... From the notes of Ma Barker, dated 1889, somewhere south of the Texas/ border town, of Laredo... r.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FF All Gurus Purnima (Celebration)
Fabulous 21 Gurus Purnimah celebration in town tonite. Tonite Stotrams, prayers, pujas, aarti in the names of our beloved gurus. Bring a picture of your beloved guru to celebrate at 7pm. Bring offerrings as you would of fruit flowers too. Jai the Gurus.
[FairfieldLife] Carbs is good
http://snipurl.com/mc42y [timesofindia_indiatimes_com] and veggie amino acid good for blood pressure : http://snipurl.com/mc46g [timesofindia_indiatimes_com]
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Palin Pregnant? Stayed Tuned...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: It's been rumored on 'Air America' That the 'real reason'..for Sarah's resignation as Gov... Is because she went and got herself, pregnant, again... In search of what's behind, Palin's decision, Randy Rhodes, of Air America, is guessing... She's pregnant... r.g. Yep, Air Head American set the record straight...again. Here's how rumor mongering about Palin works: Talking Heads: I don't know for sure but this is what I heard [fill in the blank] I don't know if this is true, but I heard she is under some serious legal investigation by [fill in the blank] The real reason she resigned is [fill in the blank] Get the rumor out there. Whether true or fair Facts don't matter Media chatter. While they're screwing you Entitlement is their due Once a rumor has begun Then forever, bell un-rung Reputation scuttled Never mind rebuttal raunchydog
[FairfieldLife] Re: Behind the Scenes
These last two points are quite funny. * Used to have average of 20 people at lectures. The rate of people starting seem to be irrelevant to anything that was going on at the lecture. Never been our exp that it's a conventional sales closing situation. The people most likely to start are those who were referred by a meditator. The other factors are intangible factors. The affluent people at lectures thank us heartily and then we don't see them. The one who starts is one who is more modest in their means, who scrapes it together. * Found old notes from Maharishi from when the course fee was first increased the wealthy people don't go to the poor store. They like designer everything. They like to hear a high price. We are not trying to target the masses so we don't have to feel guilty about losing people by initially mentioning the course fee. They're funny because we've got a group of people who are desperately trying to deal with the cognitive dissonance that arises when Maharishi would tell people X is true and yet reality keeps telling them X is false. In this case Maharishi is telling them that the course fees should be high so as to teach more rich people, yet reality is telling them that fewer people are learning, and the rich just walk away anyhow. You can almost sense the fear in them to have to report that Maharishi's idea that raising the price will result in more rich people learning isn't working and that it's wrong. The really funny thing is that they know the idea is wrong and even years after Maharishi died they're still plugging along with unfeasible prices. Apparently Emanuel Schiffgens thinks the current prices should be raised to even more unfeasible levels. These people claim to be world rulers. What a joke.
[FairfieldLife] Judy's Hitler/Nazi rule
Judy Stein has a rule which says something to the effect that he who invokes Hitler in an argument (or makes a comparison to Hitler or the Nazis) has automatically lost the argument (or something to that effect). Hopefully, she will correct me and give the full and correct rule. Anyway, Al Gore, the schmuck, has done that with climate change. Hopefully, Judy will feel the same way about him doing that as she would if some conservative did that on another topic: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6658672.ece
[FairfieldLife] Re: Carbs is good
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Oh yeah, and watch kapha people get fatter. Fragmented medicine at your service. bob_brigante wrote: http://snipurl.com/mc42y [timesofindia_indiatimes_com] and veggie amino acid good for blood pressure : http://snipurl.com/mc46g [timesofindia_indiatimes_com] *** More veggie propaganda, Western med or no: turns out the iron from beans,green leafy vegetables, etc is healthier than from meat because the body does not overabsorb iron from vegetable sources, but will from meat: The iron is plants is called nonheme iron. Its absorption depends on how much iron is in your body already. That is, if you are low in iron, your body absorbs more of it from the foods you eat. If you already have plenty of iron in your body, nonheme iron is less absorbable. That's good. It means you'll get the iron you need without overdoing it. The iron in meat is called heme iron. Its absorption does not change. You may have plenty of iron stored in your body already, but like an uninvited guest at a party, heme iron barges in whether you need it or not. As a result, many meat eaters end up with too much iron, which is dangerous because iron sparks the production of free radicals molecules that can damage your body tissues. Think of it this way: iron rusts; that is, it oxidizes. The same chemical reaction that turns an old nail rusty red can occur with the iron inside your body. In the process, iron releases free radicals that are linked to aging, cancer and heart disease. http://www.zinio.com/pages/VegetarianTimes/Feb-09/353780930/pg-29 * Excess iron is a serious health threat, especially for men: Although iron accumulation can affect both men and women, men more often suffer from the harmful effects of excess iron. Iron accumulation increases the risk for cancer, heart attack, and several other diseases. For men, sources of iron such as beef, liver, pork, iron-fortified foods and iron-fortified vitamin-mineral supplements can be avoided. http://www.menweb.org/alexiron.htm