date:20100120

"In some cases, charities spend 80 to 90 percent of their revenues on 
fundraising activities, with mere pennies going to the charitable purpose," 
according to a statement from the Attorney General's Office.





http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20101180304

[FairfieldLife] Ia. Attorney General Tightens Non-profits

No wonder TM movement attorneys like
doing business in Iowa.

"Iowa is one of just 10 states that do not have state registries for charities."

http://tinyurl.com/y8654cq

Forcing Transparency to help weed out nonprofits that aren't fulfilling their 
charitable mission.

"In the end it will help increase true charitable giving in the state by 
highlighting our many well-run charities, while shedding light on questionable 
organizations that use up almost all the charitable donations for their own 
costs and profits."

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

So, what is Bevan saying here?  

That we're supposed to be, "blissful and unified" in "warm and loving" response 
to learning their secret.  To just get on "fulfilling our duties  as Maharishi 
charged us to do".

"May we go ahead together under Maharaja Adhiraj Raja Raam.. without delay."

"Many may have heard some of this news, so we thought to let you know
What had unfolded. With best wishes, Jai Guru Dev Bevan."

Hence this is Bevan's truth.  The best he can do.  No explanation.  No apology. 
 A spiritual teacher?  Integrity evidently is not a suit that he seems to wear 
well.

His memo reads more like the dressed up door keep in the Wiz of Oz crying out,  
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!",  just as the truth is 
coming out.

Great spiritual teaching.,


> 
> 
> Juxtaposing these two announcements, some sub-text going on with the
> Winn's spin?
> 
> Hagelin appearing frank and truthful,  on paper.
> 
> They could use
> 
> more of the later.
> 
> God help 'em.
> 
> JGD,
> 
> -D  in FF
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > > Here is what looks to me like it may be the original source email:
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BuddhaAtTheGasPump/message/1837
> >
> > -
> >
> > >paste from BuddhaATGP:>
> > >From Raja Wynne and Maureen for you to enjoy.
> >
> > Jai Guru Dev
> > Graeme
> >
> > Dear Graeme - Here is some wonderful news. Please let your Governors
> and sidhas know without making a grand formal announcement or fanfare.
> I'm sure that all the families of New Zealand will be thrilled and
> delighted.
> > Jai Guru Dev
> > Raja Wynne and Maureen
> >
> > 
> > 
> >
> 
> Dear Rajas and Ministers,
> In a beautiful, tender moment following our Gita Study today,
> Maharaja-ji quietly shared the following.
> He announced that, with Maharishi's blessing, he had gotten married some
> eight years ago, and has two beautiful daughters, age 5-1/2 and 3-1/2.
> Maharishi had requested him to, for the children's sake, maintain the
> privacy of his family until the oldest was old enough to begin school.
> That time has come, and Maharaja therefore felt it was proper to share
> this news with his family of Rajas and Ministers and global leadership.
> Maharishi had told him that, in the tradition of rulership, having the
> support of a Royal Family brought stability and strength to the Kingdom.
> Of course, as was obvious to all--and as Maharaja himself
> emphasized--nothing has changed, or would change, in his Administration,
> and his continued one-pointed focus on the fulfillment of Maharishi's
> global legacy: bringing Total Knowledge--Raam Raj--to the world, while
> focussing on his own deep silence and realization of the supreme goal of
> Brahmi Chetana.
> Many were surprised, including me, but the atmosphere was most festive
> and joyous.
> Jai Guru Dev,   John
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I missed how Brian Horsfield is involved in this. Please explain.
> > >
> > > I didn't notice it before, but he made the original post in this
> thread:
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/238789
> > >
> > > Here is what looks to me like it may be the original source email:
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BuddhaAtTheGasPump/message/1837
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan?

> > Crimes, against Humanity? He rose in to power and given control >from
> > 'bout 1976?

& the "persons of interest"?  The aides, his lieutenants & the compatriots all 
these years.
35 years. 
Parsing it, evidently there are collaborators and then the co-conspirators too. 
Presiding over a potential so high and so squandered.  Weighed just against 
their own science it ranks a high crime against humanity.  Pray hasten the day. 
 The world would be a freer place.

JGD, 
-D in FF
 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well that is a sign of rising age of enlightenment even I can >believe
> > in!
> > >
> > > Quietly air brushing him from history won't undo the damage he's >done
> > though. 
> 
> A public recognition of his crimes against humanity 
> >and a
> > reversal of his actions in excluding people would make a good start >in
> > healing the TMO.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Crimes, against Humanity? He rose in to power and given control from
> > 'bout 1976?
> >
> 
>  1976  (continued)
> > > >  Maharishi's Year of Government
> >  
> > > > Maharishi inaugurates the  World Government
> > > > Of the Age of Enlightenment, a non-political,
> > > > Non-religious global organization, with sovereignty
> > > > In the domain of consciousness, authority in the invincible >power
> > > > Of Natural Law, and activity in purifying world
> > > > Consciousness with the participation of the people of over 
> > > > 120 countries and with 1,200 Maharishi Capitals of the Age of 
> > > > >Enlightenment
> > > > around the world.
> > > > 
> > > > > 1976
> > > > > 
> > > > > Maharishi introduced the TM-Sidhi program
> > > > > and starts to train Governors of the Age of 
> > > > > Enlightenment to function from the Unified
> > > > > Field of all the Laws of Nature to purify
> > > > > world consciousness.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > 
> >  This is the start of a new theme of action, 
> > an ideal path of performance 
> > following the principle of least action,
> > which upholds all activity in nature-  Maharishi's
> > principle of do less and accomplish more through
> >  the help of natural law.
> > 
> > This is to give a new theme to life on earth, 
> > progressive life without
> > stress, strain, and fatigue, through alliance
> > with the total potential of natural law.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scott Brown, my kind of Republican!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "fflmod"  wrote:
>
> 
> What's your point...that expanding medicare to middle-aged citizens is not a 
> high expense for the federal government simply because, in the words of the 
> article, "Revenue comes from a surtax on the wealthy"? Simply raise taxes?
> 

Well, when you consider that Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy are due to Sunset 
in 2011 and that the Democrats have the power to raise the cap on Social 
Security from $90K to a lot more and the power to roll back the tax to 
pre-Reagan, yep, there could be plenty of money for Medicare, Social Security 
and a Single Payer health care system.

Other than kowtowing to the insurance industry and the wealthy 1 or 2 percent 
who want a bill that amounts to a mandated feeding trough for the insurance 
industry, there is no reason why Congress needs to pass a bill that torpedoes 
employee group plans so that we lose our leverage to negotiate decent plans, 
that squeezes an excise tax out of the middle class for their crappy bill and 
taxes on Cadillac Plans for which unions sacrificed their wages. The health 
care bill is monumentally complicated with a whole lot of sneaky stuff in it 
that's going to bite you in the ass. Keep it simple and people will support it.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool  wrote: 
> > >  
> > > I think that is the only way Ted Kennedy wanted it to be done. It was 
> > > irritating to get voice mail messages from Bill Clinton and Obama asking 
> > > me to vote for Coakley, with the idea I would be supporting Ted Kennedy's 
> > > dream, when it's the insurance companies that are controlling most of the 
> > > cash flow. The insurance companies gave lots of money to the Coakley 
> > > campaign. Medicare down to age 55 would have at least been a start 
> > > towards what Ted Kennedy wanted, but it was considered to be too 
> > > expensive. 
> > >  
> > 
> > Correction: Medicare down to age 50 is less expensive, not more expensive:
> > 
> > "Medicare buy-in between 50 and 65. Medicaid expands up to 200 percent of 
> > poverty with the federal government funding the whole of the expansion. 
> > Revenue comes from a surtax on the wealthy.
> > 
> > And that's it. No cost controls. No delivery-system reforms. Nothing that 
> > makes the bill long or complex or unfamiliar. Medicare buy-in had more than 
> > 51 votes as recently as a month ago. The Medicaid change is simply a larger 
> > version of what's already passed both chambers. This bill would be shorter 
> > than a Danielle Steel novel. It could take effect before the 2012 election."
> > 
> > http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/01/the_other_health-care_reform_o.html
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scott Brown, my kind of Republican!

2010-01-20 Thread fflmod


What's your point...that expanding medicare to middle-aged citizens is not a 
high expense for the federal government simply because, in the words of the 
article, "Revenue comes from a surtax on the wealthy"? Simply raise taxes?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool  wrote: 
> >  
> > I think that is the only way Ted Kennedy wanted it to be done. It was 
> > irritating to get voice mail messages from Bill Clinton and Obama asking me 
> > to vote for Coakley, with the idea I would be supporting Ted Kennedy's 
> > dream, when it's the insurance companies that are controlling most of the 
> > cash flow. The insurance companies gave lots of money to the Coakley 
> > campaign. Medicare down to age 55 would have at least been a start towards 
> > what Ted Kennedy wanted, but it was considered to be too expensive. 
> >  
> 
> Correction: Medicare down to age 50 is less expensive, not more expensive:
> 
> "Medicare buy-in between 50 and 65. Medicaid expands up to 200 percent of 
> poverty with the federal government funding the whole of the expansion. 
> Revenue comes from a surtax on the wealthy.
> 
> And that's it. No cost controls. No delivery-system reforms. Nothing that 
> makes the bill long or complex or unfamiliar. Medicare buy-in had more than 
> 51 votes as recently as a month ago. The Medicaid change is simply a larger 
> version of what's already passed both chambers. This bill would be shorter 
> than a Danielle Steel novel. It could take effect before the 2012 election."
> 
> http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/01/the_other_health-care_reform_o.html
>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 1957


1977
Maharishi's Year of Ideal Society

Maharishi envisions the creation of an ideal society
through the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi program,
and inaugurates the "Ideal Society Campaign in 108 countries".
Scientific research verified that this campaign decreased negative trends and 
increased positive trends in society.  Crime rate went down in every area of 
the campaign, and police management everywhere enjoyed the credit.
 
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 1976
> > > > 
> > > > Maharishi introduced the TM-Sidhi program
> > > > and starts to train Governors of the Age of 
> > > > Enlightenment to function from the Unified
> > > > Field of all the Laws of Nature to purify
> > > > world consciousness.
> > > >
> > > 
> 
>  This is the start of a new theme of action, 
> an ideal path of performance 
> following the principle of least action,
> which upholds all activity in nature-  Maharishi's
> principle of do less and accomplish more through
>  the help of natural law.
> 
> This is to give a new theme to life on earth, 
> progressive life without
> stress, strain, and fatigue, through alliance
> with the total potential of natural law.
> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 1976  (continued)
> > >  Maharishi's Year of Government
>  
> > > Maharishi inaugurates the  World Government
> > > Of the Age of Enlightenment, a non-political,
> > > Non-religious global organization, with sovereignty
> > > In the domain of consciousness, authority in the invincible power
> > > Of Natural Law, and activity in purifying world
> > > Consciousness with the participation of the people of over 
> > > 120 countries and with 1,200 Maharishi Capitals of the Age of 
> > > Enlightenment
> > > around the world.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 1975
> > > > > Maharishi's Year of the
> > > > > Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment
> > > > > 
> > > > > With the discovery of the "Maharishi Effect"
> > > > > the profound nature of Maharishi's Creative
> > > > > Intelligence is further validated.  The
> > > > > "Maharishi Effect" demonstrates that 
> > > > > the collective life of a society or nation can 
> > > > > be fully developed and enriched through a small proportion
> > > > > of the population practicing Maharishi's
> > > > > Transcendental Meditation.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 1975  (continued)
> > > > 
> > > > The 'Maharishi Effect' establishes a new formula for the creation of an 
> > > > ideal society, free from crime and problems.  With this, Maharishi 
> > > > envisions the dawn of a new age for humankind- the Age of Enlightenment.
> > > > 
> > > > On January 12, Maharishi inaugurates the Dawn of the Age of 
> > > > Enlightenment for the whole world in Switzerland, and travels to all 
> > > > six continents inaugurating the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment for 
> > > > each continent.  The Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment brings the first 
> > > > wave of fulfillment of Maharishi's World Plan.
> > > > 
> > > > Maharishi establishes Maharishi European Research University to monitor 
> > > > the rise of the Age of Enlightenment in all parts of the world, and to 
> > > > investigate the full range of possibilities inherent in human 
> > > > consciousness. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 1974
> > > > > > Maharishi's Year of 
> > > > > > Achievement of the World Plan
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The Discovery of the "Maharishi Effect":
> > > > > > one percent of the population practicing
> > > > > > the Transcendental Meditation program in
> > > > > > any city reduces negative tendencies, such
> > > > > > as crime, accident, and sickness rates, and
> > > > > > increases positive tendencies throughout
> > > > > > society.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1973
> > > > > > > Maharishi's Year of
> > > > > > > Action for the World Plan
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > More than 2,000 World Plan Centers are
> > > > > > > established in all parts of the world,
> > > > > > > offering courses in the Science of
> > > > > > > Creative Intelligence.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1972
> > > > > > > > Maharishi's Year of the World Plan.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Maharishi inaugurates the World Plan to "solve
> > > > > > > > the age-old problems of mankind in this generation",
> > > > > > > > with 2,000 newly trained teachers of 
> > > > > > > > the Science of Creative Intelligence.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1971
> > > > > > > > > Maharishi's Year of
> > > > > > > > > Science of Creative Intelligence
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Maharishi formulates the Science of Creative Intelligence
> > > > > > > > > as the scientific theory for the development of 
> > > > > > > > > higher states of consciousness, which naturally develop 
> > > > > > > > > through the practice of Transcendental Meditation.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Maharishi establishes Maharishi Interantional University
> > > > > > > > > in the U.S.A. to serve as a model of ideal education in the 
> > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi: An Indian Renunciate's Story of Leaving the Organization



> An Indian Renunciate's story of life close to 
> Ammachi in Amritapuri I met Mata Amritanandamayi, 
> when I was 14 and joined the organization at
> around 20... 
>
So, I wonder, what was the original impulse that 
convinced you to be a spiritual teacher? Was it the 
Amritanandamayi, the organization, the people, or 
the efficacy of the sadhana? 

If the latter, what changed about your experience 
to cause you to no longer want to share the enjoyment 
with others? 

In short, why would an experience, that can't be 
described in words, be the impetus for you to 
dedicate almost thirty years of your adult life to 
it's propagation? 

It must have been a very, very powerful experience. 
So powerful in fact, that you're still talking about 
it now, even ten years after you supposedly quit the 
cult! 

Maybe you're just highly suggestible. Maybe you wanted 
to find God, or you wanted to start a new religion. 

But, that's not something you would want to do if you 
thought the sadhana was just a very good relaxation 
technique. 

What's up with that?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scott Brown, my kind of Republican!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool  wrote: 
>  
> I think that is the only way Ted Kennedy wanted it to be done. It was 
> irritating to get voice mail messages from Bill Clinton and Obama asking me 
> to vote for Coakley, with the idea I would be supporting Ted Kennedy's dream, 
> when it's the insurance companies that are controlling most of the cash 
> flow. The insurance companies gave lots of money to the Coakley 
> campaign. Medicare down to age 55 would have at least been a start towards 
> what Ted Kennedy wanted, but it was considered to be too expensive. 
>  

Correction: Medicare down to age 50 is less expensive, not more expensive:

"Medicare buy-in between 50 and 65. Medicaid expands up to 200 percent of 
poverty with the federal government funding the whole of the expansion. Revenue 
comes from a surtax on the wealthy.

And that's it. No cost controls. No delivery-system reforms. Nothing that makes 
the bill long or complex or unfamiliar. Medicare buy-in had more than 51 votes 
as recently as a month ago. The Medicaid change is simply a larger version of 
what's already passed both chambers. This bill would be shorter than a Danielle 
Steel novel. It could take effect before the 2012 election."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/01/the_other_health-care_reform_o.html

[FairfieldLife] The other health-care reform option

"Democrats could scrap the legislation and start over in the reconciliation
process. But not to re-create the whole bill. If you go that route, you admit
the whole thing seemed too opaque and complex and compromised. You also admit
the limitations of the reconciliation process. So you make it real simple:
Medicare buy-in between 50 and 65. Medicaid expands up to 200 percent of
poverty with the federal government funding the whole of the expansion. Revenue
comes from a surtax on the wealthy.

And that's it. No cost controls. No delivery-system reforms. Nothing that makes
the bill long or complex or unfamiliar. Medicare buy-in had more than 51 votes
as recently as a month ago. The Medicaid change is simply a larger version of
what's already passed both chambers. This bill would be shorter than a Danielle
Steel novel. It could take effect before the 2012 election."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/01/the_other_health-care_reform_o.html

This is exactly what I said Message #226947

"I posted an article from Black Agenda Report the other day that pretty much
supports what I'm saying. In case you missed it:

http://tinyurl.com/kj4xhh
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/battle-health-care%C2%A0-between-now\-and-labor-day-its-still

The best idea to come out of the article lowered the age for Medicare
eligibility every year until it covered everyone. It isn't a dramatic change,
it's easy to do, it side-steps the need for "insurance reform" and forces
insurance companies to be competitive. It's a no brainer but Congress has a
thousand page bill that no one reads when they could have written this idea on
the back of a napkin." --raunchydog

Re: [FairfieldLife] Scott Brown, my kind of Republican!

2010-01-20 Thread gullible fool



 
I think that is the only way Ted Kennedy wanted it to be done. It was 
irritating to get voice mail messages from Bill Clinton and Obama asking me to 
vote for Coakley, with the idea I would be supporting Ted Kennedy's dream, when 
it's the insurance companies that are controlling most of the cash flow. The 
insurance companies gave lots of money to the Coakley campaign. Medicare down 
to age 55 would have at least been a start towards what Ted Kennedy wanted, 
but it was considered to be too expensive. 
 
"Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love." 
 
- Amma  

--- On Wed, 1/20/10, It's just a ride  wrote:


From: It's just a ride 
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Scott Brown, my kind of Republican!
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:37 AM











On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:37 AM, gullible fool  wrote:









<<>>

Howard Dean was interviewed by Rachael Maddow last night.  Governor Dean said 
that it's best to go back to extending Medicare down to 55 year of age.  That 
is doable through the reconciliation process (God, it sounds like the court 
hearings they use to have in South Africa).  I'm all for that.  Then extend to 
45, etc., and have a single payer health care system in a few years.  The thing 
is, where I live seniors have to tread lightly because more and more doctors 
are refusing Medicare for payment.

There are just too many give aways in the current Health Care bills. 



-- 
Life isn't like a bowl of cherries or peaches..
it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today,
might burn your ass tomorrow.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi: An Indian Renunciate's Story of Leaving the Organization

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> This is quite incoherent.
> 
> I tried to read about 3 or 4 paragraphs and just got confused.  >Perhaps one 
> has to be a part of this organisation to understand the >language being used 
> here.

Shemp, Start reading about 5 paragraphs up from the bottom, about the talent 
and character qualities and then peruse back.  It reads parallel to the TM 
movement that way if you start with her concluding observations about the guru 
it makes better direction.  I guess that is why she would bring it over to FFL 
and keep pushing it, as a comparison?

[FairfieldLife] Coburn (Republican) Offers Amendment to Reduce Fed Spending!

2010-01-20 Thread BillyG

January 20, 2010
Coburn (Republican) Offers Amendment to Reduce Federal Spending, Not Increase 
National Debt

While the Senate debates legislation to increase the national debt, Dr. Coburn 
has offered an amendment to stop the debt increase and immediately reduce 
federal spending. Specifically, the amendment would alleviate the need to 
increase the national debt by rescinding at least $120 billion by consolidating 
more than 640 duplicative government programs, cutting wasteful Washington 
spending, and returning billions of dollars of unspent money. The amendment 
will be debated this week and early next week. Sixty votes are required to 
approve the amendment

http://coburn.senate.gov/public/

Re: [FairfieldLife] stress test

2010-01-20 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:20 PM, michael wrote:

> I’m not sure exactly how this works, but this is amazingly accurate. 

LOL--Now this is my kind of test!

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Democrats, get the moles out of NPR

"[Democrats,] if you don't want to lose your shirts and reputations this fall,
and it looks like that's where you're headed if you don't do something quick,
you'd better shore up your messaging machine and push left as hard as you can.
Don't say we didn't warn you."

"So, the Wurlitzer is on full crank and the Villagers are all a-twitter about
how the Democrats took the country too far left. Of course, that's what they
would say. They're THE VILLAGERS. They are paid to keep the status quo nice
and comfy for themselves and their friends. I'm going to let the Democrats in
on a little secret:

No one on the left pays any attention to them anymore.

Yep. It's true. The Washington Post and the NYTimes could be spending the
money they pay those courtiers on beefing up their international news bureaus.
People might actually start reading their papers again.

Frankly, my Dems, we don't give a damn what David Brooks or David Broder says
anymore. We only pay attention to Joe Klein because his stupid musings are so
easy to debunk and his name is, well, amenable to juvenile mockery. Paul
Krugman *used* to be our goto guy but he's lost the plot recently and thinks
that propping up Obama is more important than actually Change!ing things.

But people have to still get their news from somewhere. I gave up TV news of
all kinds last year. I don't watch network or cable "news" of any kind. I got
sensitized to the propaganda and now, whenever I hear the prepared talking
points with just the right psychological spin, I break out in hives and can't
breathe. No, now I'm forced to surf the net both domestically and
internationally and sift through the information with the skills of a
professional data miner looking for nuggets of truth among the truthiness..."

Read More:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/if-the-dems-want-to-get-back-on-their-feet-they-need-to-kick-the-moles-out-of-npr/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scott Brown, my kind of Republican!

2010-01-20 Thread BillyG



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> BillyG:
> > Scott Brown, my kind of Republican!
> >
> It's a really bad idea - and if the number of tea 
> parties being held now is any indication, this move 
> will spark an outrage with the mid-term voters. 
> 
> Apparently a majority of American voters are not in 
> favor of passage of the current health insurance 
> reform bill.
> 
> "With Brown in the Senate, Reid's natural coalition 
> becomes one vote short of 60, empowering the 
> Republicans to block the bill--but only if they all 
> stick together. For Reid and for the White House, 
> this creates an almost irresistible temptation to 
> slow the seating of Brown while trying to rush the 
> healthcare bill to President Barack Obama's desk 
> while they still have the votes to override the 
> filibuster.
> 
> It's a bad idea..."
> 
> Read more:
> 
> 'Scott Brown Should Take His Senate Seat Immediately'
> By Peter Roff
> U.S. News & World Report
> January 20, 2010
> http://tinyurl.com/ydhzp7d

"It's the People's Seat"  Scott Brown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJEEQHOnI2Q

[FairfieldLife] stress test

2010-01-20 Thread michael

 
 
      STRESS:




 
I’m not sure exactly how this works, but this is amazingly accurate. 
The picture below has two identical dolphins in it. It was used in a case study on stress levels at the Mayo Clinic and later at Fletcher Allen Medical Center in Burlington . 
Look at both dolphins jumping out of the water. The dolphins are identical. A closely monitored, scientific study revealed that, in spite of the fact that the dolphins are identical; a person under stress will find many differences between the two dolphins. 
The more differences a person finds, the more stress that person is experiencing. 
Look at the photograph and if you find more than one or two differences you may need to take a vacation.  
  No Need to Reply, I'll be on Vacation   Never take life too seriously. Nobody gets out of it alive anyway.
__Do You Yahoo!?Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>

> 
> And note the demented gibberish of the claim that I'm
> royally pissed off that I've been addressing Barry's
> many attempts this week to demonize and lie about me
> and the TMO and other TMers. When Barry gets agitated,
> he puts his brain on hold and just spouts words almost
> at random.
> 
> Of course, I'm *delighted* that he's given me the
> opportunity once again to demonstrate what a bottom-
> feeding, scummy human being he is. Almost makes you
> want to redefine "human being" so as to exclude him.


BINGO !

That fellow is seing "insanity" everywhere and in anyone who's philosophy he 
can't grasp. 
I wonder why...

[FairfieldLife] Re: For the record...

ShempMcGurk wrote:
> Barry once again showing how very much he 
> does care about what others respond to his 
> writings...
> 
The TM movement is composed mostly of people 
who wanted to be sitting in the presence of 
the Maharishi - they would do almost anything 
just to be in the same room with the guy, even 
for just a minute or two. 

They tried to turn a relaxation technique
into a religion and they made the movement
a 'cult of personality', centered on Mahesh
Varma. 

But, hardly anyone got to be in the same room 
alone with the Maharishi for even a second or 
two. Go figure.

Apparently for the last ten years of his life,
spent in seclusion at Vlodrop, the Maharishi 
communicated with his staff by telephone or 
video conference.

"I lived in FF for 18 years. If I went back 
there now, I'd have to hide out -- psychically 
-- or I'd be confronting everyone right and 
left about their attachments to this or that 
movement-falsity..."

Read more:

From: "duveyoung" 
Subject: Re: reply to EDG  
Newsgroups: Yahoo! BuddhaAtTheGasPump
Date: January 18, 2010
http://tinyurl.com/ydcc3vm

[FairfieldLife] Racism in Red Neck America: New All-White Basketball League



Basketball league for white Americans targets Augusta

The Augusta Chronicle - A new professional basketball league
boasting rosters made up exclusively of white Americans has its eyes set
on Augusta, but the team isn't receiving a warm welcome.

The All-American Basketball Alliance announced in a news release Sunday
evening that it intends to start its inaugural season in June and hopes
Augusta will be one of 12 cities with a team.

"Only players that are natural born United States citizens with both
parents of Caucasian race are eligible to play in the league," the
statement said.

Augusta Mayor Deke Copenhaver, who has publicly expressed his support
for minor league teams in the past, said he would not do the same for
this team.

"As a sports enthusiast, I have always supported bringing more sporting
activities to Augusta," he said. "However, in this instance I could not
support in good conscience bringing in a team that did not fit with the
spirit of inclusiveness that I, along with many others, have worked so
hard to foster in our city."

Clint Bryant, athletic director at Augusta State University, laughed
when he heard the news.

"It's so absurd, it's funny, but it gives you an idea of the sickness of
our society" he said. "It shows you what lengths people will go to just
to be mean-spirited. I think at any basketball level, no matter if it's
all black, all white, all Hispanic, all Asian or anyone else, the
players should just be a basketball team."

Don "Moose" Lewis, the commissioner of the AABA, said the reasoning
behind the league's roster restrictions is not racism.

"There's nothing hatred about what we're doing," he said. "I don't hate
anyone of color. But people of white, American-born citizens are in the
minority now. Here's a league for white players to play fundamental
basketball, which they like."

Lewis said he wants to emphasize fundamental basketball instead of
"street-ball" played by "people of color." He pointed out recent
incidents in the NBA, including Gilbert Arenas' indefinite suspension
after bringing guns into the Washington Wizards locker room, as examples
of fans' dissatisfaction with the way current professional sports are
run.

"Would you want to go to the game and worry about a player flipping you
off or attacking you in the stands or grabbing their crotch?" he said.
"That's the culture today, and in a free country we should have the
right to move ourselves in a better direction."

The Atlanta-based league, which will operate as a single-entity owning
all of its teams, is looking for local contacts to pay $10,000 to become
a "licensee" in one of 12 cities throughout the Southeast. Lewis said he
has already received threats from people opposed to the roster
restrictions and several cities have told him to stay out of town. Lewis
said he has yet to hear from any one in Augusta.

"We need a local person ingrained into the community to make this
successful," he said.

Lewis said he expects to eventually find support in every town with a
team.

"People will come out and support a product they can identify with. I'm
the spoken minority right now, but if people will give us a chance,
it'll work... The white game of basketball, which is essentially a
fundamental game, works."

Lewis said he wasn't sure where the team will play.

Augusta has had problems with minor league basketball teams in the past,
but the issues never centered around race. The Augusta Drive lasted less
than a month before folding in 1995, citing financial reasons. The
Augusta Groove made it through a full, 20-game schedule in 2009, but
accusations from players and local businesses that the team wasn't
paying its bills surrounded the team during the second half of the
season. The team later shut down in the offseason.
  http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/2010/01/19/nba_563760.shtml

Re: [FairfieldLife] H A A R P

yeah, or Hmmm

[FairfieldLife] Re: For the record...

2010-01-20 Thread ShempMcGurk

Yawn.

Barry once again showing how very much he does care about what others respond 
to his writings.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> I will NEVER "answer" or "debate" or "rebut" any of the 
> points made by any of the people on my Do Not Read List, 
> on any subject.
> 
> Why should I?
> 
> On one level, I do not get into "debating" ANYTHING,
> with ANYONE, on this forum or any other. I merely 
> present my opinions, and allow other people to do the 
> same. I do not "owe" these other people a point-by-point 
> "refutation" or "debate" about any of *their* counter-
> opinions or arguments. I don't even "owe" them a fuckin'
> reply. I've *said* my piece; now they get to say theirs.
> THEY are the ones who feel so attached to their opinions 
> that they feel the need to "debate" them or "defend" them
> or argue about them. I feel no such need. I just have 
> opinions.
> 
> On another level, they're pissants. I've *written them
> off*. Even if I were *tempted* to ever "debate" some-
> thing with someone, it wouldn't be with any of them. This 
> pisses them off to distraction. In some cases, their whole 
> *lives* seem to revolve around trying to suck other people 
> into ongoing "arguments" with them. I just refuse to play, 
> by refusing to argue. 
> 
> One of the reasons I do this, besides the obvious time
> saved by not wasting it on pissants, is TO SEE WHAT
> THEY'LL DO WHEN SOMEONE REFUSES TO PLAY 
> THEIR ARGUMENTATION GAME. 
> 
> It's almost always name-calling. They have to portray 
> anyone who refuses to get sucked into one of their silly
> arguments as being "bad" or "intellectually dishonest"
> or having "lost" an argument *that they were never a 
> participant in*. But the reality is that all that has 
> happened is that someone has refused to play their game, 
> and they're frustrated. 
> 
> Saying "You failed to address my points" to someone who
> now has a *long history* of NEVER addressing your points
> makes you look a little stupid, and desperate. But if
> that's the way they want to look, so be it...
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi: An Indian Renunciate's Story of Leaving the Organization

2010-01-20 Thread It's just a ride

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:55 AM, ShempMcGurk  wrote:
> This is quite incoherent.
>
> I tried to read about 3 or 4 paragraphs and just got confused.  Perhaps one 
> has to be a part of this organisation to understand the language being used 
> here.
>

I agree.  The first post was a bit confused.  First there appeared to
be first person reporting then suddenly you're confronted with P,
which I thought at first meant "new paragraph", sort of like when you
ask Word for Windows to reveal to you the hidden formatting marks in a
document.  The second one is really confusing.

>From what I've been able to gather from the previous post, this is a
composite of posts to Yahoo!'s ExAmma group.  There also is a lot of
jargon.  Remember, this composite is from people who spent many years
with Amma and had become for the most part life long renunciates.

If you cruise on over to ExAmma you'll see that there's no action
going on.  It's more like a true confessions part of people becoming
deprogrammed from what the group maintains is a cult.

What I find interesting is:

1) It appears Amma's been around a long time.
2) Amma controls a lot of property/businesses/enterprises.
3) She's got bakhti-like disciples who've been with her for a decade or longer.
4) Amma's not just a silent hugging saint.  She's very active,
lecturing, traveling, setting up and running her "charities".
5) She is often referred to with the capital She or Her.  Some people
really believe that she is an avatar.

-- 
Life isn't like a bowl of cherries or peaches..
it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today,
might burn your ass tomorrow.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi: An Indian Renunciate's Story of Leaving the Organization

2010-01-20 Thread sgrayatlarge

I'm sure this was written by someone from India, so it's not always easy to 
follow, however, I'm seeing a pattern here and it's not pretty

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> This is quite incoherent.
> 
> I tried to read about 3 or 4 paragraphs and just got confused.  Perhaps one 
> has to be a part of this organisation to understand the language being used 
> here.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "one.light@"  wrote:
> >
> > An Indian Renunciate's story of life close to Ammachi in Amritapuri
> > 
> > I met Mata Amritanandamayi, when I was 14 and joined the organization at
> > around 20. I spent a good amount of my prime years there. Regarding
> > the question, "What was your relationship to Amma"? I used to
> > think of her as my own mother, guru and god. And "How close to the inner
> > circle were you?" I guess I was pretty close to her but not able to
> > quantify it. I became involved with the ashram at a very young age. But the 
> > Period 1999-2001 was a major contributor. We saw, many of the seniors 
> > leaving, Swami Advaithamritha (Lakshman), Swami Amrithamayananda, Swamini 
> > Amrithaprana, Bri.Ambamritha (Manju) And many others as well. Some of them 
> > were very close to me. Swami Amritaswarupananda was also about to leave and 
> > was on anti-depressants in those days.. But was sent away for a while. It 
> > was like the whole thing falling apart. It was very painful for a person 
> > inside to see the entire creamy layer, moving out. It also made me think a 
> > lot! I have heard directly from Amritanandamyi herself, that Amrithaprana 
> > would attain self realization by serving me, and lot off stuff like that. 
> > Ammachi became more reliant on her immediate family members during that 
> > phase, it also helped me see the human vulnerabilities of insecurity 
> > gripping her. I confronted or rather approached her with my confusions on 
> > the meaning and purpose of this kind of life. She started telling, don't 
> > think too much, do your Nishkama sevanam (selfless work) and let me know 
> > openly all your problems. Since then, it was kind of half hearted. PLEASE 
> > UNDERSTAND, it is not just a few incidents, it is the whole experience of 
> > being there and seeing and observing her and try to HANG ON to the faith in 
> > her. She plays with our emotions by giving lot of attention and care at 
> > times and then totally ignoring you for months. 
> > 
> > So the point is the process of losing faith is like developing cracks
> > on a stone (being thrashed :-) ) over time, it was gradual for me.
> > 
> > Just to give a glimpse of the other face of her, during my last few
> > months. I had a health issue and had to go to AIMS and we were
> > supposed to seek her permission. She was emphatic, in replying that "I don't
> > know anything about u" and in a total indifferent tone. To hear it from a
> > person, whom you TRUST as mother, guru and god at a very stressful
> > time in your life is not easy. As you don't have anyone else to hold on to.
> > There is so much to go on. May be some other time, as reliving those
> > experience by narrating it is also painful at times. It just makes me
> > feel betrayed and it hurts beyond words and I want to move on. 
> > All of her immediate family members have become very rich with no clear and 
> > justifiable source of income to substantiate. No one dares to speak
> > anything against her family members inside the ashram.
> > I know lot of the insiders are contemplating about coming out
> > now, but don't have the confidence - thinking about, being able to get
> > a job, acceptance of the society etc. Needless to say, transition is
> > painful.
> > 
> > I came out and I am very happy. My friends, family and some of my
> > friends (former devotees) also helped me thru it.
> > 
> > I shall try to articulate my perspective and understanding on some of
> > these questions based on my experience there. I am also trying to be
> > as much as objective and factual as possible.
> > 
> > It is very different and it would be very difficult to get an exposure
> > on her private face. I would like to put it this way. A person is
> > coming to see her in darshan, with his/her problem/question. She
> > would be (seemingly?) extremely compassionate, loving and
> > understanding towards the person to instill and nurture faith in Her
> > (especially if she sees the person important or necessary for the
> > organization (corporate. She would give lot of attention to your
> > issues.) She is amazingly intelligent, smart and also patiently
> > willing to go to that extra mile to make that happen. She is really
> > very good at that.
> > 
> > Once that happens, you are opening up yourself to a wonder world of
> > faith (devotee), devotion and a sense of sublime surrender being
> > generated from a false sense of security with your relation to the
> > DIVINE, then more or less your sense of rationalization stops. You
> > start a

[FairfieldLife] For the record...

I will NEVER "answer" or "debate" or "rebut" any of the 
points made by any of the people on my Do Not Read List, 
on any subject.

Why should I?

On one level, I do not get into "debating" ANYTHING,
with ANYONE, on this forum or any other. I merely 
present my opinions, and allow other people to do the 
same. I do not "owe" these other people a point-by-point 
"refutation" or "debate" about any of *their* counter-
opinions or arguments. I don't even "owe" them a fuckin'
reply. I've *said* my piece; now they get to say theirs.
THEY are the ones who feel so attached to their opinions 
that they feel the need to "debate" them or "defend" them
or argue about them. I feel no such need. I just have 
opinions.

On another level, they're pissants. I've *written them
off*. Even if I were *tempted* to ever "debate" some-
thing with someone, it wouldn't be with any of them. This 
pisses them off to distraction. In some cases, their whole 
*lives* seem to revolve around trying to suck other people 
into ongoing "arguments" with them. I just refuse to play, 
by refusing to argue. 

One of the reasons I do this, besides the obvious time
saved by not wasting it on pissants, is TO SEE WHAT
THEY'LL DO WHEN SOMEONE REFUSES TO PLAY 
THEIR ARGUMENTATION GAME. 

It's almost always name-calling. They have to portray 
anyone who refuses to get sucked into one of their silly
arguments as being "bad" or "intellectually dishonest"
or having "lost" an argument *that they were never a 
participant in*. But the reality is that all that has 
happened is that someone has refused to play their game, 
and they're frustrated. 

Saying "You failed to address my points" to someone who
now has a *long history* of NEVER addressing your points
makes you look a little stupid, and desperate. But if
that's the way they want to look, so be it...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scott Brown, my kind of Republican!



BillyG:
> Scott Brown, my kind of Republican!
>
It's a really bad idea - and if the number of tea 
parties being held now is any indication, this move 
will spark an outrage with the mid-term voters. 

Apparently a majority of American voters are not in 
favor of passage of the current health insurance 
reform bill.

"With Brown in the Senate, Reid's natural coalition 
becomes one vote short of 60, empowering the 
Republicans to block the bill--but only if they all 
stick together. For Reid and for the White House, 
this creates an almost irresistible temptation to 
slow the seating of Brown while trying to rush the 
healthcare bill to President Barack Obama's desk 
while they still have the votes to override the 
filibuster.

It's a bad idea..."

Read more:

'Scott Brown Should Take His Senate Seat Immediately'
By Peter Roff
U.S. News & World Report
January 20, 2010
http://tinyurl.com/ydhzp7d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi: An Indian Renunciate's Story of Leaving the Organization

2010-01-20 Thread ShempMcGurk

This is quite incoherent.

I tried to read about 3 or 4 paragraphs and just got confused.  Perhaps one has 
to be a part of this organisation to understand the language being used here.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "one.li...@..."  wrote:
>
> An Indian Renunciate's story of life close to Ammachi in Amritapuri
> 
> I met Mata Amritanandamayi, when I was 14 and joined the organization at
> around 20. I spent a good amount of my prime years there. Regarding
> the question, "What was your relationship to Amma"? I used to
> think of her as my own mother, guru and god. And "How close to the inner
> circle were you?" I guess I was pretty close to her but not able to
> quantify it. I became involved with the ashram at a very young age. But the 
> Period 1999-2001 was a major contributor. We saw, many of the seniors 
> leaving, Swami Advaithamritha (Lakshman), Swami Amrithamayananda, Swamini 
> Amrithaprana, Bri.Ambamritha (Manju) And many others as well. Some of them 
> were very close to me. Swami Amritaswarupananda was also about to leave and 
> was on anti-depressants in those days.. But was sent away for a while. It was 
> like the whole thing falling apart. It was very painful for a person inside 
> to see the entire creamy layer, moving out. It also made me think a lot! I 
> have heard directly from Amritanandamyi herself, that Amrithaprana would 
> attain self realization by serving me, and lot off stuff like that. Ammachi 
> became more reliant on her immediate family members during that phase, it 
> also helped me see the human vulnerabilities of insecurity gripping her. I 
> confronted or rather approached her with my confusions on the meaning and 
> purpose of this kind of life. She started telling, don't think too much, do 
> your Nishkama sevanam (selfless work) and let me know openly all your 
> problems. Since then, it was kind of half hearted. PLEASE UNDERSTAND, it is 
> not just a few incidents, it is the whole experience of being there and 
> seeing and observing her and try to HANG ON to the faith in her. She plays 
> with our emotions by giving lot of attention and care at times and then 
> totally ignoring you for months. 
> 
> So the point is the process of losing faith is like developing cracks
> on a stone (being thrashed :-) ) over time, it was gradual for me.
> 
> Just to give a glimpse of the other face of her, during my last few
> months. I had a health issue and had to go to AIMS and we were
> supposed to seek her permission. She was emphatic, in replying that "I don't
> know anything about u" and in a total indifferent tone. To hear it from a
> person, whom you TRUST as mother, guru and god at a very stressful
> time in your life is not easy. As you don't have anyone else to hold on to.
> There is so much to go on. May be some other time, as reliving those
> experience by narrating it is also painful at times. It just makes me
> feel betrayed and it hurts beyond words and I want to move on. 
> All of her immediate family members have become very rich with no clear and 
> justifiable source of income to substantiate. No one dares to speak
> anything against her family members inside the ashram.
> I know lot of the insiders are contemplating about coming out
> now, but don't have the confidence - thinking about, being able to get
> a job, acceptance of the society etc. Needless to say, transition is
> painful.
> 
> I came out and I am very happy. My friends, family and some of my
> friends (former devotees) also helped me thru it.
> 
> I shall try to articulate my perspective and understanding on some of
> these questions based on my experience there. I am also trying to be
> as much as objective and factual as possible.
> 
> It is very different and it would be very difficult to get an exposure
> on her private face. I would like to put it this way. A person is
> coming to see her in darshan, with his/her problem/question. She
> would be (seemingly?) extremely compassionate, loving and
> understanding towards the person to instill and nurture faith in Her
> (especially if she sees the person important or necessary for the
> organization (corporate. She would give lot of attention to your
> issues.) She is amazingly intelligent, smart and also patiently
> willing to go to that extra mile to make that happen. She is really
> very good at that.
> 
> Once that happens, you are opening up yourself to a wonder world of
> faith (devotee), devotion and a sense of sublime surrender being
> generated from a false sense of security with your relation to the
> DIVINE, then more or less your sense of rationalization stops. You
> start attributing some good happenings or nice coincidences in your
> life as HER grace and some unfortunate incidents as wake up calls for
> not being able to follow her teachings. The ideals of selfless
> service would be awe-inspiring.
> 
> Once you become blind by faith, you will find yourself relying more
> and more on the feeling of devotion with her. With y

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-20 Thread authfriend

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> Please note that this entire post HAS NO OTHER 
> PURPOSE but to demonize a TM critic, in particular
> the dreaded B A A A A R R R Y. :-)

That would be Barry, the well-documented hypocrite
and malicious liar.

 It does not deal 
> in any way with any of the issues in the Subject 
> line or the Tony Nader "suddenly married with 
> children" announcement.

Of course it doesn't. Neither did the post of
Barry's I was responding to, whose only purpose
was to demonize *his* critics and TMers and the
TMO in general.

As Barry knows, I've dealt extensively with the
Great Marriage Secrecy Scandal in other posts
(none of which has Barry addressed except to
demonize me for making them and lie about what
I said).

 ITS ONLY PURPOSE and 
> ITS ONLY CONTENT is to demonize a TM critic. 
> 
> I stand by my original statement. BOTH Nabby's and 
> Judy's standard behavior when dealing with a critic 
> they cannot counter using any kind of rational 
> argument is to try to Kill The Messenger.

As Barry (and anyone who reads my posts) knows, this is
glaringly false in my case, and a transparent projection
of his own behavior. I make *far* more rational-argument
posts than Barry does. My *specialty* is rational
argument, in stark contrast to Barry, whose specialty is
substance-free demonization and lies, as in the post I'm
responding to.

> THERE IS NO CONTENT TO THIS POST. Almost the 
> ONLY thing it's about is "Get Barry."

If Barry doesn't want to be "gotten," there's an easy
way for him to avoid it: Stop demonizing his critics.
Stop lying about his critics. Stop being such a
ridiculous hypocrite.

(Or he could do what he has repeatedly claimed he
does--obviously falsely--and stop reading my posts.)

Remember: The post I was responding to demonized
Nabby and me for doing *exactly what Barry had just
threatened to do to Nabby*. And neither of us had 
done what Barry was accusing us of.

If that doesn't justify "getting Barry," I can't
imagine what would.

> Almost. I think most of us know what it's really about.
> It's about the fact that this was Judy's next-to-last
> post for the week -- on Wednesday morning -- and she's 
> royally pissed off that, *as I predicted* she went 
> crazy trying to "Get Barry" all week, in addition to 
> trying to "defend Maharishi." Now she's almost out 
> of posts, and is panicking, and has to lash out in 
> one or two "last Get Barry posts."

More lies. Wasn't trying to "defend Maharishi," as Barry
knows. That's his attempt to demonize me. As I noted,
it's Barry who's royally pissed off, because good old
Curtis has been speculating along the same lines as I
have.

And note the demented gibberish of the claim that I'm
royally pissed off that I've been addressing Barry's
many attempts this week to demonize and lie about me
and the TMO and other TMers. When Barry gets agitated,
he puts his brain on hold and just spouts words almost
at random.

Of course, I'm *delighted* that he's given me the
opportunity once again to demonstrate what a bottom-
feeding, scummy human being he is. Almost makes you
want to redefine "human being" so as to exclude him.

> In this one, she basically ignores the whole issue
> being discussed (the Tony Nader debacle)

Again: Because, as Barry knows, (1) the post I was
responding to of his was nothing but demonization, and
(2) I've addressed the Great Marriage Secrecy Scandal
extensively in other posts, with far more in the way
of substance than Barry's frothing at the mouth.

 and deals
> ONLY with personal invective, aimed ONLY at the 
> person who predicted that she was still so pissed
> off from *last week* that she'd piss her posts away
> playing "Get Barry" and post out early again this
> week.

As noted, I don't consider pointing out Barry's
dishonesty, arrogance, malice, and hypocrisy as
"pissing my posts away." I consider that an enjoyable
as well as a necessary activity, and again I thank
Barry for giving me the opportunity.

This week I have also, unlike Barry, made many
substantive posts, as I usually do. That's one
of the reasons why he's enraged; I've making vastly
more sense than he has.

 And, not only did that turn out to be true, 
> she chooses to spend her *last two posts* doing 
> exactly what I said she'd do -- playing "Get Barry."

No problem, dude. It's my pleasure. Maybe one day
you'll realize that "predicting" what I'm going to do
doesn't intimidate me into not doing it.

> And now my prediction for next week: More of the same...

Yup, if what we see is more of the same from Barry.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Today's Funnies - This time for sure!

2010-01-20 Thread It's just a ride

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:59 AM, do.rflex  wrote:
>

Now this one would be a lot more FFL realistic if it were a MML scheme
and each unit came with 100 hours from a life coach.

Those in FF who can't make money start MML schemes.  Those who can't
manage their lives become life coaches.  My observations, at least.

> Shremp's new sure-fire Million Dollar - Money-Maker Invention:
> http://www.fengtastic.com/?p=415
>
-- 
Life isn't like a bowl of cherries or peaches..
it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today,
might burn your ass tomorrow.

Re: [FairfieldLife] H A A R P

2010-01-20 Thread Mike Dixon

One question. Does the *h* in H.A.A.R.P. stand for ... Halliburton?:)





From: m 13 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 7:08:19 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] H A A R P

  
hm

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=BR6O3kJTqaI

[FairfieldLife] Re: Today's Funnies - This time for sure!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Maybe the images don't appear in the FFL emails? I don't use the
> > email version of FFL so I don't know. 
> > 
> > The comics show up just fine at the FFL website.
>  
>  I've been over this before. They show up on the FFL website FOR YOU 
> because you're using the same browser that you used when you found the pics 
> in the first place. That means the pics are loading from your browser cache 
> on your hard drive. The pics are on a server that doesn't allow image 
> hotlinking, so no one else can see the images. 
> 
> If you're going to post images, find them in a different browser than the one 
> you post with. That way you will immediately see in message preview that the 
> site doesn't allow image hotlinking.
>


I'm a bit slow with computer stuff. 

Here are the links to the comics I posted:


Tradition: http://www.fengtastic.com/?p=958

Coming Soon to a theatre near you: http://www.fengtastic.com/?p=771

Those Terrible Twins: http://www.fengtastic.com/?p=622

"You wanna hand me another intravenous burrito?":
http://www.fengtastic.com/?p=564

Special Interest: http://www.fengtastic.com/?p=471

Shremp's new sure-fire Million Dollar - Money-Maker Invention:
http://www.fengtastic.com/?p=415

Screw political correctness - New breed of 'real American' Gun Nuts:
http://www.fengtastic.com/?p=369

[FairfieldLife] Ammachi: An Indian Renunciate's Story of Leaving the Organization

2010-01-20 Thread one.li...@ymail.com

An Indian Renunciate's story of life close to Ammachi in Amritapuri

I met Mata Amritanandamayi, when I was 14 and joined the organization at
around 20. I spent a good amount of my prime years there. Regarding
the question, "What was your relationship to Amma"? I used to
think of her as my own mother, guru and god. And "How close to the inner
circle were you?" I guess I was pretty close to her but not able to
quantify it. I became involved with the ashram at a very young age. But the 
Period 1999-2001 was a major contributor. We saw, many of the seniors leaving, 
Swami Advaithamritha (Lakshman), Swami Amrithamayananda, Swamini Amrithaprana, 
Bri.Ambamritha (Manju) And many others as well. Some of them were very close to 
me. Swami Amritaswarupananda was also about to leave and was on 
anti-depressants in those days.. But was sent away for a while. It was like the 
whole thing falling apart. It was very painful for a person inside to see the 
entire creamy layer, moving out. It also made me think a lot! I have heard 
directly from Amritanandamyi herself, that Amrithaprana would attain self 
realization by serving me, and lot off stuff like that. Ammachi became more 
reliant on her immediate family members during that phase, it also helped me 
see the human vulnerabilities of insecurity gripping her. I confronted or 
rather approached her with my confusions on the meaning and purpose of this 
kind of life. She started telling, don't think too much, do your Nishkama 
sevanam (selfless work) and let me know openly all your problems. Since then, 
it was kind of half hearted. PLEASE UNDERSTAND, it is not just a few incidents, 
it is the whole experience of being there and seeing and observing her and try 
to HANG ON to the faith in her. She plays with our emotions by giving lot of 
attention and care at times and then totally ignoring you for months. 

So the point is the process of losing faith is like developing cracks
on a stone (being thrashed :-) ) over time, it was gradual for me.

Just to give a glimpse of the other face of her, during my last few
months. I had a health issue and had to go to AIMS and we were
supposed to seek her permission. She was emphatic, in replying that "I don't
know anything about u" and in a total indifferent tone. To hear it from a
person, whom you TRUST as mother, guru and god at a very stressful
time in your life is not easy. As you don't have anyone else to hold on to.
There is so much to go on. May be some other time, as reliving those
experience by narrating it is also painful at times. It just makes me
feel betrayed and it hurts beyond words and I want to move on. 
All of her immediate family members have become very rich with no clear and 
justifiable source of income to substantiate. No one dares to speak
anything against her family members inside the ashram.
I know lot of the insiders are contemplating about coming out
now, but don't have the confidence - thinking about, being able to get
a job, acceptance of the society etc. Needless to say, transition is
painful.

I came out and I am very happy. My friends, family and some of my
friends (former devotees) also helped me thru it.

I shall try to articulate my perspective and understanding on some of
these questions based on my experience there. I am also trying to be
as much as objective and factual as possible.

It is very different and it would be very difficult to get an exposure
on her private face. I would like to put it this way. A person is
coming to see her in darshan, with his/her problem/question. She
would be (seemingly?) extremely compassionate, loving and
understanding towards the person to instill and nurture faith in Her
(especially if she sees the person important or necessary for the
organization (corporate. She would give lot of attention to your
issues.) She is amazingly intelligent, smart and also patiently
willing to go to that extra mile to make that happen. She is really
very good at that.

Once that happens, you are opening up yourself to a wonder world of
faith (devotee), devotion and a sense of sublime surrender being
generated from a false sense of security with your relation to the
DIVINE, then more or less your sense of rationalization stops. You
start attributing some good happenings or nice coincidences in your
life as HER grace and some unfortunate incidents as wake up calls for
not being able to follow her teachings. The ideals of selfless
service would be awe-inspiring.

Once you become blind by faith, you will find yourself relying more
and more on the feeling of devotion with her. With your intellect
being open to her teachings (spiritual?) you tend to look at life and
the world in a specific way and tend to become more and more comfortable
and moving in the "devotee" circle.

Don't think that, the whole experience and journey is very depressing
or confusing. It is not; it gives you a real "high" especially in the
beginning. This is rather a generic process of becoming an insider.
Of c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Today's Funnies - This time for sure!

2010-01-20 Thread Alex Stanley

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Maybe the images don't appear in the FFL emails? I don't use the
> email version of FFL so I don't know. 
> 
> The comics show up just fine at the FFL website.

 I've been over this before. They show up on the FFL website FOR YOU 
because you're using the same browser that you used when you found the pics in 
the first place. That means the pics are loading from your browser cache on 
your hard drive. The pics are on a server that doesn't allow image hotlinking, 
so no one else can see the images. 

If you're going to post images, find them in a different browser than the one 
you post with. That way you will immediately see in message preview that the 
site doesn't allow image hotlinking.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

Please note that this entire post HAS NO OTHER 
PURPOSE but to demonize a TM critic, in particular
the dreaded B A A A A R R R Y. :-) It does not deal 
in any way with any of the issues in the Subject 
line or the Tony Nader "suddenly married with 
children" announcement. ITS ONLY PURPOSE and 
ITS ONLY CONTENT is to demonize a TM critic. 

I stand by my original statement. BOTH Nabby's and 
Judy's standard behavior when dealing with a critic 
they cannot counter using any kind of rational 
argument is to try to Kill The Messenger. 

THERE IS NO CONTENT TO THIS POST. Almost the 
ONLY thing it's about is "Get Barry."

Almost. I think most of us know what it's really about.
It's about the fact that this was Judy's next-to-last
post for the week -- on Wednesday morning -- and she's 
royally pissed off that, *as I predicted* she went 
crazy trying to "Get Barry" all week, in addition to 
trying to "defend Maharishi." Now she's almost out 
of posts, and is panicking, and has to lash out in 
one or two "last Get Barry posts."

In this one, she basically ignores the whole issue
being discussed (the Tony Nader debacle) and deals
ONLY with personal invective, aimed ONLY at the 
person who predicted that she was still so pissed
off from *last week* that she'd piss her posts away
playing "Get Barry" and post out early again this
week. And, not only did that turn out to be true, 
she chooses to spend her *last two posts* doing 
exactly what I said she'd do -- playing "Get Barry."

And now my prediction for next week: More of the same...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta  wrote:
> > >
> > > It's disgusting what are you doing!
> > > 
> > > I did not ask that you publicly comment my friends
> > > from my FB list here on FFL. I asked you that in 
> > > case you know somebody you can check directly with 
> > > them who I am...
> > > I kept your privacy here... which in turn you did 
> > > not with my friends... in addition you abuse them
> > > to make yourself important...
> > > 
> > > What a perverseness...!
> > > 
> > > Alex, Rick... how you will call this abuse...?
> > 
> > Call it "The Nablus/Judy Stein Theory Of Debate."
> > 
> > Otherwise known as "The ends justify the means."
> 
> Is this an instance of hypocrisy so blatantly obvious
> and transparent that it's comic?
> 
> Or is it a symptom of serious mental deterioration?
> 
> Less than 24 hours ago, Barry threatened to expose
> Nabby's real identity, and would have done so if
> Alex hadn't warned him not to. He's actually done it
> to several people previously; that's why the 
> guidelines now have a provision against it.
> 
> Nabby didn't expose anything about Zoran that anyone 
> with a Facebook account couldn't have discovered,
> since Zoran uses his real name.
> 
> I have never even threatened to expose anyone's
> identity or private information. It would never
> occur to me.
> 
> And yet, according to Barry, Nabby and I are the
> Bad Guys.
> 
> What did Barry say were the ends that justified his
> means in threatening Nabby? He "just wanted Nabby
> to experience a moment of panic." Charming.
> 
> > The way it goes is, in any debate in which they
> > cannot actually defend something indefensible,
> > or whenever their opponents in the debate seem
> > to be making points they can't counter, the 
> > strategy is to *go on the offensive* and *become
> > offensive*. The ONLY point of this strategy is 
> > to attack and discredit the critic.
> 
> Anybody who follows Barry's posts knows that he is
> describing his own strategy above: whenever his
> opponents in a debate make points he can't counter,
> he *goes on the offensive* and *becomes offensive*
> to attack and discredit his critics, ruthlessly
> demonizing them, lying about them, distorting what
> they've said--or threatening to breach their
> anonymity to "give them a moment of panic"--while
> never addressing their substantive points.
> 
> And that's the biggest difference between Barry
> and me: I may "go on the offensive," but I always
> address my debating opponents' substantive points;
> and I do my damndest to be honest and fair.
> 
> Barry has no such scruples. For him, it's always
> the ends--discrediting his critics--justify the
> means, all the time. By now his tactics have become
> such a joke that he never achieves those ends, but
> it's not for lack of trying.
> 
> He's never actually debated any of my points about
> the Great Secret Marriage Scandal. All he's done is
> attack me for making them, while lying about what
> I've said.
> 
> So is all this just hilariously transparent
> hypocrisy on Barry's part?
> 
> Or is it yet another sign of his recent mental 
> decline, documented here in profuse detail?
> 
> Is he really as vile a human being as this smear of
> Nabby and me suggests? Or is he to be pitied because
> he's losing his faculties and genu

[FairfieldLife] hmmmmmm H A A R P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhJfkh0e3l0

[FairfieldLife] H A A R P

hm
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR6O3kJTqaI

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya, the World Teacher, steps forward

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHqncRa4fcA&feature=sub
> 
> One has to wonder sometimes about Nabby's sanity.

That makes us two, I wonder about yours and you wonder about mine, how nice :-)

> 
> How could anyone sane point to *this* YouTube clip
> to *support* the idea that a teacher named Maitreya
> actually exists, and has "stepped forward?"
> 
> The clip is worth watching because the speaker in
> it is clearly insane.

You seem to experience much insanity these days Turq. 
What's up with that ?

 What the clip actually contains 
> is sad, decrepit, obviously unwell Benjamin Creme 

Please note that Mr. Creme is well above 80 years and in my opinion in a pretty 
good shape for his age

> *claiming* that Maitreya finally "stepped forward" 
> and "gave his first interview" on American television. 
> 
> Of course, Creme fails to mention under which name
> or on which channel this alleged interview took 
> place. And he fails to give any actual quotes, only
> his own...uh...paraphrases of the alleged message,
> almost as if...uh...he were making them up.

The Turq, as usual, has not done his homework, see below.

> 
> The way I see it, Creme looks to be "circling the
> drain," incarnation-wise. He's on his way out,

and btw, so are you and all the rest of us eventually. ;-)

and
> after selling a load of crap to all of his insane

The insanity of the world seems to haunt the Turq...

> followers for all these decades, he's afraid to 
> die without claiming that, as promised, "Maitreya 
> is really here."
> 
> And so what does he do? He claims that Maitreya --
> who as you may remember was supposed to speak 
> simultaneously to all people of the world *in their
> own language* instead has made an unspecified 
> appearance on some unspecified television show
> and said unspecified things. 

This is where The Turq stumbles. For years Mr. Creme has said that Maitreya 
will do 2 different interviews. One as an ordinary man not mentioning His real 
name and later, based on the reception on the first interview will He step 
forward as Maitrea. Later He will speak simultaneously to all people in their 
own language, the socalled Day of Declaration.

Why not get the facts straight before your vain attempt of ridicule threatens 
to swallow you ?

> And people like Nabby not only *believe* this gar-
> bage, they pass it along to others as if to say,
> "See...we were right and you were wrong."

In your twisted fantasy only. 

> Then again, Maharishi kept claiming right up to 
> the end that Sat Yuga was here, too.

Correct. Maharishi also said that:
"Heaven will walk on earth, in this generation". 

You are free to interpret this as you wish.

See the video with Mr. Creme from the 18'th January 2010 here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHqncRa4fcA&feature=sub

[FairfieldLife] Re: Today's Funnies - This time for sure!

Maybe the images don't appear in the FFL emails? I don't use the email version 
of FFL so I don't know. 

The comics show up just fine at the FFL website.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> Ditto
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m 13  wrote:
> >
> > hmmm
> > I tried to click and it said i was forbidden
> >  
> > hmmm
> > oops
> >  
> >  
> > -M
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-20 Thread authfriend

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta  wrote:
> >
> > It's disgusting what are you doing!
> > 
> > I did not ask that you publicly comment my friends
> > from my FB list here on FFL. I asked you that in 
> > case you know somebody you can check directly with 
> > them who I am...
> > I kept your privacy here... which in turn you did 
> > not with my friends... in addition you abuse them
> > to make yourself important...
> > 
> > What a perverseness...!
> > 
> > Alex, Rick... how you will call this abuse...?
> 
> Call it "The Nablus/Judy Stein Theory Of Debate."
> 
> Otherwise known as "The ends justify the means."

Is this an instance of hypocrisy so blatantly obvious
and transparent that it's comic?

Or is it a symptom of serious mental deterioration?

Less than 24 hours ago, Barry threatened to expose
Nabby's real identity, and would have done so if
Alex hadn't warned him not to. He's actually done it
to several people previously; that's why the 
guidelines now have a provision against it.

Nabby didn't expose anything about Zoran that anyone 
with a Facebook account couldn't have discovered,
since Zoran uses his real name.

I have never even threatened to expose anyone's
identity or private information. It would never
occur to me.

And yet, according to Barry, Nabby and I are the
Bad Guys.

What did Barry say were the ends that justified his
means in threatening Nabby? He "just wanted Nabby
to experience a moment of panic." Charming.

> The way it goes is, in any debate in which they
> cannot actually defend something indefensible,
> or whenever their opponents in the debate seem
> to be making points they can't counter, the 
> strategy is to *go on the offensive* and *become
> offensive*. The ONLY point of this strategy is 
> to attack and discredit the critic.

Anybody who follows Barry's posts knows that he is
describing his own strategy above: whenever his
opponents in a debate make points he can't counter,
he *goes on the offensive* and *becomes offensive*
to attack and discredit his critics, ruthlessly
demonizing them, lying about them, distorting what
they've said--or threatening to breach their
anonymity to "give them a moment of panic"--while
never addressing their substantive points.

And that's the biggest difference between Barry
and me: I may "go on the offensive," but I always
address my debating opponents' substantive points;
and I do my damndest to be honest and fair.

Barry has no such scruples. For him, it's always
the ends--discrediting his critics--justify the
means, all the time. By now his tactics have become
such a joke that he never achieves those ends, but
it's not for lack of trying.

He's never actually debated any of my points about
the Great Secret Marriage Scandal. All he's done is
attack me for making them, while lying about what
I've said.

So is all this just hilariously transparent
hypocrisy on Barry's part?

Or is it yet another sign of his recent mental 
decline, documented here in profuse detail?

Is he really as vile a human being as this smear of
Nabby and me suggests? Or is he to be pitied because
he's losing his faculties and genuinely doesn't
recognize he's describing his own behavior?

> And where did they LEARN this tactic? Duh. Look
> at how the TM movement responds to criticism of
> teaching TM in schools. The same way. They trot
> out the same old arguments to smear the critics
> and discredit them in any way possible.

And this worn-out mantra of Barry's doesn't become
any more valid with repetition. It's horse pucky,
it's always been horse pucky, and he knows it's
horse pucky.

> Attempting to smear one's critics is OFFICIAL
> TMO POLICY.

No, it's not. But it was the policy of Frederick
Lenz, "Rama," Barry's previous guru. Check out the
Wikipedia  article on Lenz under "Criticisms and
controversial incidents" for a bunch of examples,
including:

"His supporters made the unverifiable claim that these
critics represented a very small fraction (less than
one percent) of the population of parents and students.
They also alleged that complaints were coming from
'persons who may have had private motivations for their
actions.'"

"His supporters counter-allege that Eastwood's claims of
sexual assault should not be treated as the report of a
sex crime, but as 'a vindictive ploy based on her
expectation to have a relationship with Lenz that never
panned out.'"

"Lenz and his supporters label the cult watchdog groups
as 'hate groups' and deprogrammers as 'kidnappers.'"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Lenz#Criticisms_and_controversial_incidents

 And the reason is because "The ends 
> justify the means" is OFFICIAL TM POLICY.

There's some truth to this, but it's a common approach
in any messianic group, including Lenz's.

Unlike Lenz and his group and Barry, however, the TMO 
does not *lie* about its critics.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Today's Funnies - This time for sure!

Ditto

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m 13  wrote:
>
> hmmm
> I tried to click and it said i was forbidden
>  
> hmmm
> oops
>  
>  
> -M
>

[FairfieldLife] Today's Funnies - This time for sure!

hmmm
I tried to click and it said i was forbidden
 
hmmm
oops
 
 
-M

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-20 Thread curtisdeltablues

Somehow I doubt that any of my speculations are causing anyone to flail about 
in or out of the movement!

But now that we have the official announcement of how joyous this best of all 
possible worlds is...I can stop worrying my pretty little head about all this 
and wait for the tell all book from some member of the royal court.
Interesting to see Tony give lip service to the suckersI mean celibacy 
clubs. A little do as I say not as I do befitting a king. 

I still think it makes him a bit less of a freak to have a family but I suspect 
there are more than a few disgruntled Purusha nutsacks in the kingdom.  At 
least until they can find their own "best of all possible worlds" switch, punah 
punah (again and again .)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> 
> > This is just my way of pointing out that since this
> > whole snit hit the fan, as far as I can tell only two
> > people on this forum have *gone out of their way* to
> > call the critics names and attempt to undermine their
> > credibility, along with formulating mind-bogglingly
> > inane excuses to absolve Maharishi of any culpability
> > in this fiasco.
> 
> Only one, actually, that being Nabby.
> 
> Barry's hallucinating again, most likely from dealing
> with the cognitive dissonance of realizing that, unlike
> Barry, virtually all the other TM critics and most of the
> TMers don't believe Hagelin's email and are trying to
> figure out what the real story might be, no matter who
> looks bad as a result.
> 
> Barry's particularly agitated because his pal Curtis,
> whom he always praises as thoughtful and straight-
> arrow, has proposed that it was Tony and his wife who
> demanded the secrecy rather than MMY. Ouch! No wonder
> Barry's flailing so helplessly.
>

[FairfieldLife] Today's Funnies - This time for sure!


Tradition

  [550] 

---

Coming Soon to a theatre near you

  [600] 

---

Those Terrible Twins

  [488]  
---

"You wanna hand me another intravenous burrito?"

  [600] 

---

Special Interest

  [541] 

---

Shremp's new sure-fire Million Dollar - Money-Maker Invention

  [yams.jpg] 


---

Screw political correctness - New breed of  'real American' Gun Nuts



  [nggna-2.jpg]

[FairfieldLife] Waterloo

2010-01-20 Thread Mike Dixon

 Thank you Massachusetts independents! You've thrown a wrench in the *monkey 
works*!The whole world is watching the second Boston Tea Party and the rest of 
the country is lining up to follow.< Harry Reid and others... you're next! 
Obama, can you say *one term-er*?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-20 Thread Alex Stanley

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta  wrote:
>
> It's disgusting what are you doing!
> 
> I did not ask that you publicly comment my friends from my FB
> list here on FFL. I asked you that in case you know somebody you
> can check directly with them who I am...
> I kept your privacy here... which in turn you did not with my
> friends... in addition you abuse them to make yourself important...
> 
> What a perverseness...!
> 
> Alex, Rick... how you will call this abuse...?

Zoran has already unsubscribed from FFL, but a Google search on his name brings 
up his Facebook page, and his list of FB friends is available to anyone who is 
logged in to FB. As far as I'm concerned, that is public information. The rule 
on FFL is that people not reveal the identity of subscribers who wish to remain 
anonymous. Nabby's reference to Zoran's FB friends does not reveal the identity 
of any anonymous FFL subscribers.

[FairfieldLife] Today's Funnies

[FairfieldLife] 21 Golden Rules!!!(challenge taken)

response to challenge:
 
I see a kitten who licks my face and hands
such happiness and Light
What a great gift!
I see smiles in her eyes.

[FairfieldLife] 21 Golden Rules!!!good breakfast food,num num

 
 
... ~*   ..
 
 
Daisy Award
 
This is good nourishment 
Every morning like tea we could drink these up
 
Thanks for expounding even more on your initial post
 
If we could inhale the vapors of this nice breakfast drink of words, and open 
our hearts to the Spirit of them
blood filling with good intent
we could give good effort in the physical body to DO these
 
There doesn't have to be suffering in the world
There is so much beauty in the world
drink it in
(this post for one)
 
Challenge:
 
List the beauty you see TODAY
in this forum
 
 
Much love, 
Meow

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya, the World Teacher, steps forward

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHqncRa4fcA&feature=sub

One has to wonder sometimes about Nabby's sanity.

How could anyone sane point to *this* YouTube clip
to *support* the idea that a teacher named Maitreya
actually exists, and has "stepped forward?"

The clip is worth watching because the speaker in
it is clearly insane. What the clip actually contains 
is sad, decrepit, obviously unwell Benjamin Creme 
*claiming* that Maitreya finally "stepped forward" 
and "gave his first interview" on American television. 

Of course, Creme fails to mention under which name
or on which channel this alleged interview took 
place. And he fails to give any actual quotes, only
his own...uh...paraphrases of the alleged message,
almost as if...uh...he were making them up.

The way I see it, Creme looks to be "circling the
drain," incarnation-wise. He's on his way out, and
after selling a load of crap to all of his insane
followers for all these decades, he's afraid to 
die without claiming that, as promised, "Maitreya 
is really here."

And so what does he do? He claims that Maitreya --
who as you may remember was supposed to speak 
simultaneously to all people of the world *in their
own language* instead has made an unspecified 
appearance on some unspecified television show
and said unspecified things. 

And people like Nabby not only *believe* this gar-
bage, they pass it along to others as if to say,
"See...we were right and you were wrong." 

Then again, Maharishi kept claiming right up to 
the end that Sat Yuga was here, too. Maybe Maitreya
appeared on the imaginary Sat Yuga Channel, which 
you can watch only if you have an imaginary TV.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Will Kennedy's Quick Seating In 1962 Repeat Itself?


Will Kennedy's Quick Seating In 1962 Repeat Itself?

Brian Beutler and Eric Kleefeld
  | January 19, 2010,  2:56PM

A Senate Candidate Scott Brown (R), the late
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and State AG and Senate
Candidate Martha Coakley (D)


In preparation for what they expect to be Republican Scott Brown's
victory in the Massachusetts Senate special election tonight,
conservatives and Republicans have unearthed a novel and ironic
precedent
 , which they're using to argue that, if he
wins, Brown should be seated right away as the 41st vote against health
care reform.

Senate rules require
  that all newly-elected
Senators be certified as winners by their home states before they can be
sworn in. But on November 6, 1962, none other than Ted Kennedy himself
won a special election to fill his own brother's Senate seat in
Massachusetts, and was sworn in the very next day--two full weeks before
his victory was certified, and three weeks before that certification
arrived in Washington.

1962 is a long way back, and according to Senate historian Don Ritchie,
the relevant rule has been in place since well before then.

"Senators have always had to be certified to be sworn in," he says.

So why the exception for Kennedy? The short answer is the Senate
disregarded its own rules and seated him despite lacking certification
(the state certificate arrived a few weeks later
 ). The longer answer is that there are
some important differences between Kennedy's election 47 years ago and
this year's race in Massachusetts.

Most crucially, according to Ritchie, the Senate was not in session in
November, 1962, which means nobody was around to object to seating him
immediately--the rules were waived and Kennedy was sworn in without
certification. "Kennedy was sworn in the next day," Ritchie emails. "He
won by a commanding majority, and the Senate was not in session, so
there was no challenge, even though the paperwork for his certification
came later."

In other words, if Republicans want to seat Brown (should he win) a la
Kennedy the Senate would have to waive the rule, and swear in the 41st
vote against health care. That won't be easy: Rules are suspended by
unanimous consent, which means any one member can say "no way."

Senate leadership has been very clear: they're waiting for official
documentation. "When there is a certified winner in Massachusetts, the
Senate has received appropriate papers, and the Vice President is
available, the successor to Senators Kennedy and Kirk will be sworn in,"
says Jim Manley, spokesman to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

That means, among other things, military and absentee ballots will have
to be counted, in accordance with Massachusetts law, before a winner can
be certified--a requirement that was not in effect back in 1962.

And, Democrats say, the precedent is not on Republicans' side. Just this
Congress, two Democrats--Sen. Roland Burris (D-IL) and Sen. Al Franken
(D-MN)--have had to grapple with the certification question. Burris had
to go to the state Supreme Court to get a declaration that his
appointment by soon-to-be-impeached Gov. Rod Blagojevich constituted a
fully valid certification, even though the Illinois Secretary of State
refused to co-sign the document.


In Franken's case, Republicans refused to allow him to be seated until
months and months of GOP-led court challenges to his very narrow win
were resolved. (Minnesota law didn't allow for a certificate to be
issued until the state court challenges were resolved.)

One can go back further still. In 1994, Republican Fred Thompson won a
special election and took over the seat Harlan Matthews had been
appointed to, and in 2002, Republican Jim Talent won a special election
and took over the seat Jean Carnahan had been appointed to. In both
cases, the appointed Senators continued to serve and vote until the
winners had been certified and sworn in.

That's where part two of the conservative case for a swift seating comes
into play. They point to the 2007 House special election in
Massachusetts of Rep. Niki Tsongas (D-MA), who was seated before
officially certified. When Tsongas won, the clerk of the House
requested, and the Massachusetts Secretary of the State provided, a
special letter which stood as a temporary stand in for official
certification.

"The Secretary sen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scott Brown, my kind of Republican!

> Howard Dean was interviewed by 
> Rachael Maddow last night
>
So, Howard Dean is holding a tea 
party protest.

[FairfieldLife] Self-defeating stupidity


Slamming the Overton Window On Your Own Head
by John Cole

In another thread, someone asked
 :
Yeah, this blog is starting to rub me the wrong way a little with its
knee-jerk anti-activist stink. Are you thinking of switching again,
John?
No. Not at all. I'm not anti-activist, but I'm against doing
self-defeating things, and what I see lately is a lot of magical
thinking and self-defeating tactics at work. In fact, a couple months
ago, when we were all working towards a worthwhile goal, I was linking
to, quoting, and high-fiving the same activists I am now looking at like
they are a freak show.

I understand a lot of what is going on predates my entrance into the
Democratic party- progressives and gay right activists have a long
history of being shat on by the DLC crowd, Clinton took them for a ride,
and now they think Rahm an Obama are doing the same thing.  Republicans
didn't pass DOMA, DADT, welfare reform, etc., after all. So I
understand it to some extent. At the same time, let me tell you a story
about what I see:

I'm walking down the street with my Obama/Biden button on, when up
ahead of me on the right, I see a large protest. They are carrying
signs, and yelling and ranting about Obama.

"Kill the bill! Obamacare sucks!"
"That's not change you can believe in!"
"Obama's Adopting Bush's Terror policies! But He's Still
Weak on Terror!"
"No taxes on healthcare!"
"Just words."

I pay no attention to them, then look to the left, and see a progressive
counter-protest. They are all amped up, too, and they are yelling their
own slogans:

"Kill the bill! No to Obama's Insurance Sell Out!"
"That's not the change I voted for!"
"Obama's just like Bush on National Security/Gitmo!"
"No taxes on healthcare!"
"Just words!"

I recognize a lot of people in the crowd, so I walk up to them and ask
them what the hell they are doing. They look back at me and tell me,
"Oh. We're just moving the Overton Window to the left."

Now do you understand why I am wondering what the hell people are
thinking? I don't understand the logic of adopting the same frames
as the right. I don't understand the idea of killing HCR because
there will be something better down the road. I don't understand why
everything has to be done immediately, the way the loudest want it done,
or Obama is a sell out.

Maybe I am just an authoritarian at heart, and I know I am much more
comfortable supporting a movement than I am attempting to lead one, but
it just seems like the Democrats worst enemy right now is other
Democrats.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=32772

[FairfieldLife] UFO sighting sightings caught on tape the night before the Haiti Earthquake 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0RzX3uqAls

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta  wrote:
>
> It's disgusting what are you doing!
> 
> I did not ask that you publicly comment my friends from my FB list here on
> FFL. I asked you that in case you know somebody you can check directly with
> them who I am...

Those 3 fellows did'nt tell me much about who you are since you listed no 
top-people in the Movement. And since you are posting here under your own name 
anyone could see who your friends are so no need to feel hurt.

If, on the other hand, you still feel hurt perhaps you should take a closer 
look at the weird accusations you posted a couple of days ago about what you 
heard in 2002 in Vlodrop regarding Raja Ram and Maharishi. That would, 
hopefully, contribute to refine your humbleness.

[FairfieldLife] Maitreya, the World Teacher, steps forward

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHqncRa4fcA&feature=sub

[FairfieldLife] Liberal Bloggers to Obama and Dems: We Told You So

"Democrats, controlling the White House and both houses of Congress, have 
managed to kill their own dream of dominance in 12 months.

How did it happen?

...the administration hasn't been true enough to fundamental Democratic 
principles, has embraced some of Bush's worst excesses on civil liberties, and 
has ditched popular ideas (like the public option) in favor of watered down 
centrist policies, thus looking weak and ineffectual...

The case by progressives that Democrats are undermining themselves with 
faux-bipartisanship and tepid policies gets much closer to the heart of the 
problem...when you fail to govern based on a morally sound, well-articulated, 
solidly-grounded set of ideals, you look weak...People gravitate to people who 
exude moral authority. The vast majority of voters lack the detailed policy 
knowledge that would enable them to make an accurate assessment of policy 
differences, but they do have a visceral sense of when a candidate or an 
elected official believes in something and fights for it."

Read More:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-daou/liberal-bloggers-to-obama_b_429031.html

This is exactly what I have been saying all along, but not as delicately:

"The House healthcare bill sucks. By the time it merges with the Senate bill 
it's going to be suckier. Dollars to donuts the Stupid Stupak amendment stays 
in the bill. I am really disgusted that Obama and the Democrats are patting 
themselves on the back for passing a bill that sacrifices a woman's right to 
choose and mandates insurance without a decent public option.

Obama should have twisted arms LBJ style and swung for the fences for single 
payer from the start of the debate. Yeah. Right. I knew that would never 
happened but had he the balls to do it, I'll bet we would have had a better 
bill than this piece of shit." 

raunchydog Message #234211

Re: [FairfieldLife] Scott Brown, my kind of Republican!

2010-01-20 Thread It's just a ride

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:37 AM, gullible fool  wrote:

>
>
> <<>>
>

Howard Dean was interviewed by Rachael Maddow last night.  Governor Dean
said that it's best to go back to extending Medicare down to 55 year of
age.  That is doable through the reconciliation process (God, it sounds like
the court hearings they use to have in South Africa).  I'm all for that.
Then extend to 45, etc., and have a single payer health care system in a few
years.  The thing is, where I live seniors have to tread lightly because
more and more doctors are refusing Medicare for payment.

There are just too many give aways in the current Health Care bills.

-- 
Life isn't like a bowl of cherries or peaches..
it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today,
might burn your ass tomorrow.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta  wrote:
>
> It's disgusting what are you doing!
> 
> I did not ask that you publicly comment my friends from my 
> FB list here on FFL. I asked you that in case you know 
> somebody you can check directly with them who I am...
> I kept your privacy here... which in turn you did not with 
> my friends... in addition you abuse them to make yourself 
> important...
> 
> What a perverseness...!
> 
> Alex, Rick... how you will call this abuse...?

Call it "The Nablus/Judy Stein Theory Of Debate."

Otherwise known as "The ends justify the means."

The way it goes is, in any debate in which they
cannot actually defend something indefensible,
or whenever their opponents in the debate seem
to be making points they can't counter, the 
strategy is to *go on the offensive* and *become
offensive*. The ONLY point of this strategy is 
to attack and discredit the critic. 

And where did they LEARN this tactic? Duh. Look
at how the TM movement responds to criticism of
teaching TM in schools. The same way. They trot
out the same old arguments to smear the critics
and discredit them in any way possible. 

Attempting to smear one's critics is OFFICIAL
TMO POLICY. And the reason is because "The ends 
justify the means" is OFFICIAL TM POLICY.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-20 Thread Zoran Krneta

It's disgusting what are you doing!

I did not ask that you publicly comment my friends from my FB list here on
FFL. I asked you that in case you know somebody you can check directly with
them who I am...
I kept your privacy here... which in turn you did not with my friends... in
addition you abuse them to make yourself important...

What a perverseness...!

Alex, Rick... how you will call this abuse...?

2010/1/19 nablusoss1008 

>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ,
> Zoran Krneta  wrote:
> >
> > I would never expose Naby's privacy.
> > I wanted to make him aware that he can check who I am from people who we
> may
> > know from Facebook since he has profile there as I am.
> > I came a cross with his FB profile but I did not want to deal with that.
> >
> > I would not expose his identity for another reason... probably he would
> run
> > away from FFL... still he is quite unique character... kind of ''precious
> > gem'' who make this place more interesting and more piquant :)
>
> Since you asked I checked your Movement friends there; a french gay couple
> (not that there is anything wrong with that) and Lothar, long since married
> (not that there is anything wrong with that), not exactly what I would
> characterize as a very "insider" friend list, to say the least.
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Review: "Creation"

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > I got ahold of a review copy of "Creation," the film about
> > Charles Darwin that has been eagerly awaited everywhere but
> > the United States Of America, that bastion of intellectual
> > freedom that is the only country on the planet where it had
> > difficulty finding a distributor.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> Only in your twisted mind, Barry, could there possibly be a 
> connection between intellectual freedom and a movie finding 
> a distributor.
> 
> I can assure you that if the movie promised to fill seats it 
> could be about portraying Satan himself as the best thing to 
> happen to planet Earth and it would find a distributor.

Actually, it might not. The issue here was the same
as with "The Last Temptation Of Christ," with large
Christianist groups threatening to picket any 
theater showing "Creation." I *had* to cross a 
picket line to see "The Last Temptation Of Christ."
Many people did not cross that line. 

Sure, the film distributors want to turn a profit. 
But in America they are also facing local church and
radical Christian groups who promise to boycott their
theaters *not just during the showing of the film they
don't like but forever* if the theaters don't do what
they want. So the decision to distribute one film that
is drawing fire from these crazies has to be weighed
against other concerns, such as whether they can 
stay in business in towns "out in the sticks," where
much of their revenue comes from. Jeremy Thomas, 
producer of "Creation" went on the record early on
about the number of possible distributors who told
him that they were *afraid* to distribute the film.
See the Wikipedia entry on this film:

Releases

According to Jeremy Thomas, the United States was one 
of the last countries to find a distributor due to the 
prominence of the Creationevolution controversy. Thomas 
said: "It is unbelievable to us that this is still a 
really hot potato in America. There's still a great 
belief that He made the world in six days. It's quite 
difficult for we in the UK to imagine religion in 
America. We live in a country which is no longer so 
religious. But in the US, outside of New York and LA, 
religion rules." [5] His comments in the mainstream 
press, and the publicity surrounding the Toronto 
premiere, provoked flame wars across religious, atheist, 
scientific and film communities on the internet. [8]
Several campaigns and petitions sprang up independently 
in attempts to lobby distributors to release the film 
in the US, including those on Facebook.[9][10] Posts 
on related blogs such as film critic Roger Ebert's, a 
noted admirer of Darwin, stretched into the hundreds.[11]

On September 24, 2009, Variety reported that Newmarket 
Films acquired the rights to the movie and plans to 
release it on January 24 in the US.[12] Newmarket Films 
had previously successfully released Mel Gibson's 
controversial film The Passion Of The Christ.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A fun Sattyanand story about Maharishi's...uh...truthfulness