[FairfieldLife] Re: From Mark Landau
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 04/15/2012 02:19 AM, wgm4u wrote: Most people HAVE health insurance, what we need is more competition to bring down the cost of Health Ins. not give it over to the 'DMV'. ;-) How do you define most people? Around 17 percent have no health insurance at all and there is a far larger group who are considered under insured.I wouldn't hold my breathe anytime soon for more competition in the health insurance industry. I'm sure the existing ones particularly in California lobbied pull the ladder up laws to make sure they don't get any competition from startups. Yes, we don't want the cranky rude types you find at the DMV running things. There also needs to be some major changes in government jobs. They can't be for life and we need to have a way to boot the rudies out. But I don't see the greedy pig CEO at the insurance companies changing their ways anytime soon. The only insurance exec who did that was Wendall Potter and only after he left the industry and saw how screwed Americans were. I define 'most' by 83%; most people have health insurance already! When I had health insurance, it was with a $5000 deductible... Even so, making the payments cost me quite literally every penny I had, and of course, I never was able to afford to have the operation I needed anyway. L.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Mark Landau
I made that comment not as I wish I could get a job as an engineer but in the context of survival skills...grow, build, fix...self-sufficient-like. Declaring bankruptcy is still a method of not paying any bills - my ex is on his third. The job I receive from the universe will not be that of an engineer :) From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Mark Landau Not sure that being an engineer is any easy job ticket especially if you are older. Supposedly in the Bay Area they are beginning to hire older folks for adult supervision at software companies (the VCs are demanding it). I haven't seen anything from that though I have one B2B inquiring about me doing some UI design. I can do that but I'm not used to dealing with business companies who seem so left brained. They expect a veneer that I don't have as I consider myself a jazz musician who likes writing computer code. And like you my jobs found me. I'm not good at beating the bushes so to speak and recruiters often sent me out on mismatches. Back in the day there was some slack in life. If you went broke you could declare bankruptcy (still can but it's harder). Just ask some of the folks here as I'm sure there are a few who did that when they couldn't pay off their loans for TTC or the Sidhis course. I know of some who did that. On 04/15/2012 10:49 AM, Emily Reyn wrote: I have money in the bank as well, although it's dwindling fast. Money may not be of much use to you. I wish I was an engineer! From: wgm4uno_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Mark Landau --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reynemilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip This country is so tied up in knots that a complete collapse probably is the only solution. Unfortunately not fun. I hope not, but you might be right, I actually have money in the bank! (Don't tell anybody, especially a democrat). Ha, hence my desire to grow vegetables :) The survival skill set that may be needed is not one that us urban folks have. Necessity is the Mother of invention...
[FairfieldLife] Rick Santorum Aborts His Campaign
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/2e87bd3144/rick-santorum-aborts-presidential-campaign
[FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Good for Oprah and Start-ups
Oprah Winfrey devoted her OWN show Sunday night to Transcendental Meditation (TM). But TM is not just for Oprah, it can help start-ups too. At least that was the claim of Dr Sharda S. Nandram, Professor in Entrepreneurship at the University of Applied Sciences HAN, Associate Professor Entrepreneurship at Nyenrode Business University, and founder of Praan Solutions READ MORE http://theuncarvedblog.com/2012/03/27/transcendental-meditation-good-for-oprah-and-start-ups-written-by-peter-cohan-for-forbes/#comment-7002 ~~~ O .
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: OM: soma and suppleness?
He can recommend the monks show something, but individual monks will all have taken some very serious vows in regards to secrecy and thus have to decide for themselves what they will share and what they cannot. For example, in the early tests on samadhi meditators the yogis in question lived in remote hermitages and some of the yogis were reluctant to be connected to EEG or EKG's for fear it would disturb their nadis or bioenergetic channels. Consequently some refused to be wired up, despite the recommendation by HHDL. I believe it was David-Neel who actually witnessed a Lung-gompa pausing and slowly coming out of samadhi. As soon as the yogi saw David-Neel, he tried to run into the bushes to maintain his vows and secrecy. This yogi had heavy chains on his body to keep him from getting too light... For people who know where the yogic encampments are, they only allow students with higher tantric authorizations to even enter the gar (yogis encampment). On Apr 15, 2012, at 6:33 PM, sparaig wrote: Herbert Benson could only report on what he saw. THe monks he was sent to were recommended by the Dali Lama. If some group of monks was much more advanced, the Dali Lama never told him, apparently.
[FairfieldLife] King Tony drops the king schtick
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch
[FairfieldLife] The film that changed my life
Great little series in The Guardian. Famous actors, directors, and filmmakers do a short rap on the movie that changed everything for them: * Joss Whedon: the film that changed my life http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/apr/15/joss-whedon-film-changed-spi\ elberg 15 Apr 2012: Screenwriter and director Joss Whedon tells Gemma Kappala-Ramsamy how Steven Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind made him an existentialist Post your comment http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/apr/15/joss-whedon-film-changed-spi\ elberg#start-of-comments * Steven Berkoff: the film that changed my life http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/apr/01/steven-berkoff-cyrano-berger\ ac-ferrer 1 Apr 2012: Actor, director and writer Steven Berkoff hails José Ferrer's definitive performance as the big-snozzled soldier-poet http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/apr/01/steven-berkoff-cyrano-berger\ ac-ferrer#start-of-comments * Dexter Fletcher: the film that changed my life http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/mar/18/dexter-fletcher-film-changed\ -life http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/mar/18/dexter-fletcher-film-changed\ -life 18 Mar 2012: Actor turned director Dexter Fletcher tells Natalie Woolman why he likes Paul Thomas Anderson's Hard Eight * John Madden: the film that changed my life http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/jan/22/john-madden-film-changed-lif\ e http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/jan/22/john-madden-film-changed-lif\ e 22 Jan 2012:Director John Madden speaks to Natalie Woolman about the slow-burn menace of Coppola's The Conversation http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/jan/22/john-madden-film-changed-lif\ e#start-of-comments * Stellan Skarsgård: The film that changed my life http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/dec/18/stellen-skarsgard-film-chang\ ed-life 18 Dec 2011: The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo actor tells Gemma Kappala-Ramsamy how Marcel Carné's 1945 epic inspired his approach to acting http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/dec/18/stellen-skarsgard-film-chang\ ed-life#start-of-comments * The film that changed my life: Daniel Auteuil http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/dec/11/daniel-auteuil-film-changed-\ life 11 Dec 2011: The star of Hidden tells Gemma Kappala-Ramsamy how a 1974 tale of failed friendship taught him an valuable life lesson Great series, one that goes on and on. A must-read for film freaks: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/series/film-that-changed-my-life http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/series/film-that-changed-my-life
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Yep, he's come to a point in a career of having to leave the crown behind to get bigger-time on the spiritual teacher circuits. It is exciting to watch, kind of like in the 'Got Talent' auditions, 'Jonathan' will have to leave 'Charlotte' behind to make it. He just needs more experience. I wish him well and hope the best for him. He's got an important message to say to all of us in his way. http://www.godvine.com/Shy-Boy-and-his-Friend-Shock-the-Audience-with-The-Prayer-Unbelievable-1318.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
To drop using the king title is to directly refute Maharishi's political agenda for the movement's future. To eschew it so nonchalantly and without any announcement about its being back-burnered, shows how shallowly these rajas look at their role playing. If you can't levitate or bring back the dead or walk on water or feed a multitude from two minnows and three slices of bread, SHUT THE FUCK UP. That's what I should have said to Maharishi when -- instead -- I handed him a rose and had a pissant googly-eyed face of adoration. That he allowed me to be such a fool is HIS SIN..think of the hundreds of thousands of such sins he must now atone for. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Yep, he's come to a point in a career of having to leave the crown behind to get bigger-time on the spiritual teacher circuits. It is exciting to watch, kind of like in the 'Got Talent' auditions, 'Jonathan' will have to leave 'Charlotte' behind to make it. He just needs more experience. I wish him well and hope the best for him. He's got an important message to say to all of us in his way. http://www.godvine.com/Shy-Boy-and-his-Friend-Shock-the-Audience-with-The-Prayer-Unbelievable-1318.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
Though Tony Nader isn't identified on these YouTube videos as being king or maharaja he stills comes across as some kind of pampered rich guy, maybe a baron or a count who lives in Luxemborg or some other tax-haven-supported, European principality. His talk, such as it was, wasn't anything that any of the former teachers who post here didn't duplicate scores or hundreds of times during their careers as TM initiators. There was some charm, at least originally, with Maharishi's playful riffing on the sounds and similarities of English words as revealing some greater underlying truth, but saying wholeness over and over again doesn't convey much weight or depth of knowledge or experience. At least to me. Why would anyone listen to this guy? This appears to be a pretty lightweight shtick with little to recommend it. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: To drop using the king title is to directly refute Maharishi's political agenda for the movement's future. To eschew it so nonchalantly and without any announcement about its being back-burnered, shows how shallowly these rajas look at their role playing. If you can't levitate or bring back the dead or walk on water or feed a multitude from two minnows and three slices of bread, SHUT THE FUCK UP. That's what I should have said to Maharishi when -- instead -- I handed him a rose and had a pissant googly-eyed face of adoration. That he allowed me to be such a fool is HIS SIN..think of the hundreds of thousands of such sins he must now atone for. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Yep, he's come to a point in a career of having to leave the crown behind to get bigger-time on the spiritual teacher circuits. It is exciting to watch, kind of like in the 'Got Talent' auditions, 'Jonathan' will have to leave 'Charlotte' behind to make it. He just needs more experience. I wish him well and hope the best for him. He's got an important message to say to all of us in his way. http://www.godvine.com/Shy-Boy-and-his-Friend-Shock-the-Audience-with-The-Prayer-Unbelievable-1318.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Yep, he's come to a point in a career of having to leave the crown behind to get bigger-time on the spiritual teacher circuits. With all due respect, there is not a popsicle's chance in Hell that Tony is ever going to go big-time on the spiritual teacher circuit. He just doesn't have what it takes (empathy, humanity, humor, and a personality). I would suggest that he's just trying to rank higher in the Amazon sales charts than his current position at #1,323,028. You can't do that with a crown on your head.
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
The question is-Who is the 'man' behind the mask? And if he came out, would he be welcomed? or would he become another persona non-Grata like a Charlie Lutes or a Jerry Jarvis or (insert your favorite name). Charlie used to say being 'spiritual' is just being natural, just being who you are, and Charlie was just that, who he was. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Though Tony Nader isn't identified on these YouTube videos as being king or maharaja he stills comes across as some kind of pampered rich guy, maybe a baron or a count who lives in Luxemborg or some other tax-haven-supported, European principality. His talk, such as it was, wasn't anything that any of the former teachers who post here didn't duplicate scores or hundreds of times during their careers as TM initiators. There was some charm, at least originally, with Maharishi's playful riffing on the sounds and similarities of English words as revealing some greater underlying truth, but saying wholeness over and over again doesn't convey much weight or depth of knowledge or experience. At least to me. Why would anyone listen to this guy? This appears to be a pretty lightweight shtick with little to recommend it. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: To drop using the king title is to directly refute Maharishi's political agenda for the movement's future. To eschew it so nonchalantly and without any announcement about its being back-burnered, shows how shallowly these rajas look at their role playing. If you can't levitate or bring back the dead or walk on water or feed a multitude from two minnows and three slices of bread, SHUT THE FUCK UP. That's what I should have said to Maharishi when -- instead -- I handed him a rose and had a pissant googly-eyed face of adoration. That he allowed me to be such a fool is HIS SIN..think of the hundreds of thousands of such sins he must now atone for. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Yep, he's come to a point in a career of having to leave the crown behind to get bigger-time on the spiritual teacher circuits. It is exciting to watch, kind of like in the 'Got Talent' auditions, 'Jonathan' will have to leave 'Charlotte' behind to make it. He just needs more experience. I wish him well and hope the best for him. He's got an important message to say to all of us in his way. http://www.godvine.com/Shy-Boy-and-his-Friend-Shock-the-Audience-with-The-Prayer-Unbelievable-1318.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Yep, he's come to a point in a career of having to leave the crown behind to get bigger-time on the spiritual teacher circuits. With all due respect, there is not a popsicle's chance in Hell that Tony is ever going to go big-time on the spiritual teacher circuit. He just doesn't have what it takes (empathy, humanity, humor, and a personality). I would suggest that he's just trying to rank higher in the Amazon sales charts than his current position at #1,323,028. You can't do that with a crown on your head. Yeah...but ya gotta love that turtleneck! ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
Maybe the turtleneck will be his signature style, enabling folks to recognize him at a glance. The crown and silk kaftan would even moreso establish a signature sartorial splendor. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Yep, he's come to a point in a career of having to leave the crown behind to get bigger-time on the spiritual teacher circuits. With all due respect, there is not a popsicle's chance in Hell that Tony is ever going to go big-time on the spiritual teacher circuit. He just doesn't have what it takes (empathy, humanity, humor, and a personality). I would suggest that he's just trying to rank higher in the Amazon sales charts than his current position at #1,323,028. You can't do that with a crown on your head. Yeah...but ya gotta love that turtleneck! ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Maybe the turtleneck will be his signature style, enabling folks to recognize him at a glance. The crown and silk kaftan would even moreso establish a signature sartorial splendor. Trying not to be more unkind than is deserved :-), wouldn't it be fascinating to see da King's dry cleaning bill if he's really going on tour and this is his performance outfit? I mean, I'm not a big clothes hound or anything, but even I can tell that the turtleneck and white suit cost a bundle, probably upwards of 4-5K. One wonders whether he needs a steamer trunk to carry them, because clearly he'll need more than one outfit to pull off a book/speaking tour through the grimy streets of spit the Relative. Now that I'm tripping on this, Curtis-style, I wonder where he'll be *staying* while on tour. Would hotels be good enough? I mean, how are the kitchens of even five-star hotels going to cope with having to prepare seven different meals for him every night, only to see six of them rejected? Not to mention his entourage. Will the wife and kids be traveling with him? That would certainly up the ante as well. You open yourself to just SO many questions when you buy into being one of the main characters in Maharishi's version of Disneyland. For his sake, I just hope that the bramacharyis who man his security detail don't get caught indulging in a little pre-game relaxation the way that the Secret Service did. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Yep, he's come to a point in a career of having to leave the crown behind to get bigger-time on the spiritual teacher circuits. With all due respect, there is not a popsicle's chance in Hell that Tony is ever going to go big-time on the spiritual teacher circuit. He just doesn't have what it takes (empathy, humanity, humor, and a personality). I would suggest that he's just trying to rank higher in the Amazon sales charts than his current position at #1,323,028. You can't do that with a crown on your head. Yeah...but ya gotta love that turtleneck! ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM's David Lynch - Crazy Clown Time (Official Video)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: That was a pretty neat video, actually. Sorry you and your friend don't understand it. Hint: some parties aren't really that fun. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Conservatively Cut from e-mail; Dear Buck, Sure the TMO cuts its celebrities some slack, but how can they possibly rationalize Lynch's latest bizarre behavior? It's not like he's an anonymous donor; he's the face of TM's claims to unleash unlimited creativity. When you're trying to get TM taught in schools, and Lynch is making sick, stupid, ugly videos to support his new album, you've got a public relations nightmare. This is what gets produced when you have the support of all the laws of nature? http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=/watch%3Fv%3D6QJpY2VNP0E Great video, better than the videos from my other favorites for some time now; Rammstein ! You actually have to create an account to see it, because it's so inappropriate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: To drop using the king title is to directly refute Maharishi's political agenda for the movement's future. To eschew it so nonchalantly and without any announcement about its being back-burnered, shows how shallowly these rajas look at their role playing. If you can't levitate or bring back the dead or walk on water or feed a multitude from two minnows and three slices of bread, SHUT THE FUCK UP. Long time no checking, Edg ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
Nabby, will you check me by phone? I need to know it's going to be a valid checking session, and YOU'RE the one FFLer who's sure to know his checking notes. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: To drop using the king title is to directly refute Maharishi's political agenda for the movement's future. To eschew it so nonchalantly and without any announcement about its being back-burnered, shows how shallowly these rajas look at their role playing. If you can't levitate or bring back the dead or walk on water or feed a multitude from two minnows and three slices of bread, SHUT THE FUCK UP. Long time no checking, Edg ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Nabby, will you check me by phone? I need to know it's going to be a valid checking session, and YOU'RE the one FFLer who's sure to know his checking notes. There used to be an HTML based checking guide online where you could do it on your own.
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Nabby, will you check me by phone? I need to know it's going to be a valid checking session, and YOU'RE the one FFLer who's sure to know his checking notes. Please tape it, Edg. I for one can't wait to get to the to part where the TMer being checked says, I transcended for the entire 20 minutes...not a single thought in that time, and Nabby says, Yes, good, fine, etc. Now describe to me your experience, the way I want to hear it described. :-) More seriously, isn't it fascinating the reverence that Nabby (and not just him) has (have) for the TM Checking Procedure? It's as if they really believe that all life's problems can be solved by getting a checking. My bet is that the people who believe this have never actually checked another TMer's meditation, and learned that the supposedly Expert System designed to handle any eventuality...uh...can't, and that if you follow the Fiuggi procedure it's very likely to put you into a loop that you cannot possibly escape from, except by ending the checking session abruptly and exiting quickly from the room. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: To drop using the king title is to directly refute Maharishi's political agenda for the movement's future. To eschew it so nonchalantly and without any announcement about its being back-burnered, shows how shallowly these rajas look at their role playing. If you can't levitate or bring back the dead or walk on water or feed a multitude from two minnows and three slices of bread, SHUT THE FUCK UP. Long time no checking, Edg ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
Vaj, Self checking -- who doesn't do it? I never thought my meditation instructions were not being honored, and yet there's always someone like Nabby who contends that a long time meditator can be off somehow and deeply into straining and forcing the mantra or whatever. As if. 49,640 hours of me doing it, and Nabby thinks checking would find it in error? Ha! If I were doing it wrongly, chances are I'm in such deep denial that the checking notes won't burst my bubble of certainty. And let's face it, the checking notes changed with every new crop of initiators being puked out, so where's the absolute in that? Why'd Maharishi come out with something that was flawed and needing evolution? But wait, that's a question for Nabby. Never mind. And, Nabby, if you do respond, please tell us how's come Maharishi came up with plan after plan after plan and there was only ONE metric to decide if the movement was a success: the belt size of Girish. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Nabby, will you check me by phone? I need to know it's going to be a valid checking session, and YOU'RE the one FFLer who's sure to know his checking notes. There used to be an HTML based checking guide online where you could do it on your own.
[FairfieldLife] The Caging of America
Jailing Americans for Profit examines the rise of the prison industrial complex. Did you know that these private prison companies require a 90% occupancy rate to move into a state? What happens if the crime rate drops? Are you going to prison because you sneezed? And we wonder why the movie makers want to throw people in prison for 5 years for downloading a movie. Just another sign that Kali Yuga is here. http://lewrockwell.com/whitehead/whitehead42.1.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:34 PM, turquoiseb wrote: Please tape it, Edg. I for one can't wait to get to the to part where the TMer being checked says, I transcended for the entire 20 minutes...not a single thought in that time, and Nabby says, Yes, good, fine, etc. Now describe to me your experience, the way I want to hear it described. :-) More seriously, isn't it fascinating the reverence that Nabby (and not just him) has (have) for the TM Checking Procedure? It's as if they really believe that all life's problems can be solved by getting a checking. Let's face it: the only reason such a flowchart is necessary is because none of these folks is likely to have any actual mastery in the meditative arts. So an inflexible mechanical one size fits all routine was required to idiot-proof the thing. Unfortunately this is one instance where one size doesn't fit everyone. Those that it does not fit will always be left hanging (no pun intended). I'm much more impressed with the Shambhala certified meditation instructors: they have much better experience and training and they're aware of the breadth and depth of meditative praxis - and instruction and follow-up are free, worldwide.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Self checking -- who doesn't do it? I never thought my meditation instructions were not being honored, and yet there's always someone like Nabby who contends that a long time meditator can be off somehow and deeply into straining and forcing the mantra or whatever. As if. 49,640 hours of me doing it, and Nabby thinks checking would find it in error? Ha! If I were doing it wrongly, chances are I'm in such deep denial that the checking notes won't burst my bubble of certainty. And let's face it, the checking notes changed with every new crop of initiators being puked out, so where's the absolute in that? Why'd Maharishi come out with something that was flawed and needing evolution? It fit the needs of the time: the movement pumped out mantra salesmen so they had to give something that made up for the lack of meditative expertise in the initiators and that was idiot-proof. For the era, it was probably a pretty good solution. Nowadays, less so. The best solution is to actually provide legitimate acharyas in whatever tradition you are in. Unfortunately in this case, Mahesh was never really legit - he was just winging it - and that was therefore NOT an option. He had to make it up as he went along. I much prefer Swami Rama's Superconscious Meditation. It allowed more variability in how the student related to the mantra and how s/he practiced it. It also created an actual bridge to the practices of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati.
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Note though, that he's not presenting himself as Raja etc but only as Tony Nader. No titles, no nothing. So, at least on the videos, he's not in a formal setting. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Note though, that he's not presenting himself as Raja etc but only as Tony Nader. No titles, no nothing. So, at least on the videos, he's not in a formal setting. Is there any possibility that anyone outside the TM world would take him seriously if he pretended he *was* in a formal setting, and they should regard him as a king? While I agree with you that it is wise of him not to try to run this cult riff on a non-cult audience, I may disagree on the motivation behind it. I would suggest that even *he* knows that it would be impossible to pull off the King Thing when dealing with a rational audience. The *only* place he can do that is among TB TMers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Nabby, will you check me by phone? Given your erratic outbursts I guess it would take some time. The rate from here with my subscription is about 1 dollar a minute. Can you afford that ? I need to know it's going to be a valid checking session, and YOU'RE the one FFLer who's sure to know his checking notes. That's right. And I'm also sure there is a certified TM-teacher not too far from you that would be happy to give you a checking. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
What do you mean even he? I have never gotten the impression that he enjoys being king. In fact, I have always noted a slight discomfort when he's wearing his crown and such. As far as I am concerned, the crown thing is meant to prevent another Deepak Chopra where the TM organization expended 10 years of resources on creating a media sensation, only to have him abandon them once he got big enough. King Tony, as head of the TM organization, really can't appear on Oprah, or any other talk show. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Note though, that he's not presenting himself as Raja etc but only as Tony Nader. No titles, no nothing. So, at least on the videos, he's not in a formal setting. Is there any possibility that anyone outside the TM world would take him seriously if he pretended he *was* in a formal setting, and they should regard him as a king? While I agree with you that it is wise of him not to try to run this cult riff on a non-cult audience, I may disagree on the motivation behind it. I would suggest that even *he* knows that it would be impossible to pull off the King Thing when dealing with a rational audience. The *only* place he can do that is among TB TMers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: My bet is that the people who believe this have never actually checked another TMer's meditation, and learned that the supposedly Expert System designed to handle any eventuality...uh...can't, and that if you follow the procedure it's very likely to put you into a loop that you cannot possibly escape from, except by ending the checking session abruptly and exiting quickly from the room. My bet is that the fellow who wrote this himself never checked a singel soul :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
Eh, MMY liked him. Also, pampered rich guy may not be a proper description of him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Though Tony Nader isn't identified on these YouTube videos as being king or maharaja he stills comes across as some kind of pampered rich guy, maybe a baron or a count who lives in Luxemborg or some other tax-haven-supported, European principality. His talk, such as it was, wasn't anything that any of the former teachers who post here didn't duplicate scores or hundreds of times during their careers as TM initiators. There was some charm, at least originally, with Maharishi's playful riffing on the sounds and similarities of English words as revealing some greater underlying truth, but saying wholeness over and over again doesn't convey much weight or depth of knowledge or experience. At least to me. Why would anyone listen to this guy? This appears to be a pretty lightweight shtick with little to recommend it. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: To drop using the king title is to directly refute Maharishi's political agenda for the movement's future. To eschew it so nonchalantly and without any announcement about its being back-burnered, shows how shallowly these rajas look at their role playing. If you can't levitate or bring back the dead or walk on water or feed a multitude from two minnows and three slices of bread, SHUT THE FUCK UP. That's what I should have said to Maharishi when -- instead -- I handed him a rose and had a pissant googly-eyed face of adoration. That he allowed me to be such a fool is HIS SIN..think of the hundreds of thousands of such sins he must now atone for. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Yep, he's come to a point in a career of having to leave the crown behind to get bigger-time on the spiritual teacher circuits. It is exciting to watch, kind of like in the 'Got Talent' auditions, 'Jonathan' will have to leave 'Charlotte'� behind to make it. He just needs more experience. I wish him well and hope the best for him. He's got an important message to say to all of us in his way. http://www.godvine.com/Shy-Boy-and-his-Friend-Shock-the-Audience-with-The-Prayer-Unbelievable-1318.html
[FairfieldLife] Hillary Partying in Colombia
This could mean she's no longer interested in seeking another political office in the future. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/hillary-clinton-parties-colombia-photos-dancing-beer-slugging-142828267.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: What do you mean even he? I have never gotten the impression that he enjoys being king. In fact, I have always noted a slight discomfort when he's wearing his crown and such. As would be expected, in a relatively sane person. As far as I am concerned, the crown thing is meant to prevent another Deepak Chopra where the TM organization expended 10 years of resources on creating a media sensation, only to have him abandon them once he got big enough. King Tony, as head of the TM organization, really can't appear on Oprah, or any other talk show. While I do not necessarily disagree with anything you say here -- from Maharishi's perspective -- do you realize what it says from a slightly different perspective? That is, one in which Maharishi felt that he had to go out of his way to screen out any possibility of individual thought or charisma in his successor? Can't have that. Otherwise someday they might be...uh...erecting Maharajaram Towers Of Invincibility. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Note though, that he's not presenting himself as Raja etc but only as Tony Nader. No titles, no nothing. So, at least on the videos, he's not in a formal setting. Is there any possibility that anyone outside the TM world would take him seriously if he pretended he *was* in a formal setting, and they should regard him as a king? While I agree with you that it is wise of him not to try to run this cult riff on a non-cult audience, I may disagree on the motivation behind it. I would suggest that even *he* knows that it would be impossible to pull off the King Thing when dealing with a rational audience. The *only* place he can do that is among TB TMers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Eh, MMY liked him. See my previous post. Also, pampered rich guy may not be a proper description of him. Ahem. Tony Nader was *LONG* after my time. I never encountered his holy countenance while still a part of the TMO, and only heard of him on forums like this. But what about his lifestyle *since* he was sat on a big fucking scale and given his weight in gold (Yes, lurkers, that really happened) does *NOT* qualify in your mind as being a pampered rich guy. Whatever else you may think of him because of how Maharishi regarded him, the dude has been able to live a *rather* pampered -- and duplicitous -- life ever since. Onstage, he got to be Rajafuckingram, symbol of the wisdom of silence, the power of bramacharya (celibacy), and the all-powerful Woo Woo of Vedic Invincibility. Offstage, he got to have (presumably, and presumably *all* paid for by the TMO) a nice apartment in Paris in which he kept the wife and children he kept hidden from everyone in the TM movement, including his closest friends. And he got to live there in the kind of style that we have all heard rumors of -- involving having his cooks prepare him seven different meals each night, so that he could peruse them and then reject all but one, Raja-style. I mean, dude. Saudi Sheiks can't get away with this shit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Though Tony Nader isn't identified on these YouTube videos as being king or maharaja he stills comes across as some kind of pampered rich guy, maybe a baron or a count who lives in Luxemborg or some other tax-haven-supported, European principality. His talk, such as it was, wasn't anything that any of the former teachers who post here didn't duplicate scores or hundreds of times during their careers as TM initiators. There was some charm, at least originally, with Maharishi's playful riffing on the sounds and similarities of English words as revealing some greater underlying truth, but saying wholeness over and over again doesn't convey much weight or depth of knowledge or experience. At least to me. Why would anyone listen to this guy? This appears to be a pretty lightweight shtick with little to recommend it. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: To drop using the king title is to directly refute Maharishi's political agenda for the movement's future. To eschew it so nonchalantly and without any announcement about its being back-burnered, shows how shallowly these rajas look at their role playing. If you can't levitate or bring back the dead or walk on water or feed a multitude from two minnows and three slices of bread, SHUT THE FUCK UP. That's what I should have said to Maharishi when -- instead -- I handed him a rose and had a pissant googly-eyed face of adoration. That he allowed me to be such a fool is HIS SIN..think of the hundreds of thousands of such sins he must now atone for. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Yep, he's come to a point in a career of having to leave the crown behind to get bigger-time on the spiritual teacher circuits. It is exciting to watch, kind of like in the 'Got Talent' auditions, 'Jonathan' will have to leave 'Charlotte'� behind to make it. He just needs more experience. I wish him well and hope the best for him. He's got an important message to say to all of us in his way. http://www.godvine.com/Shy-Boy-and-his-Friend-Shock-the-Audience-with-The-Prayer-Unbelievable-1318.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Mark Landau
On 04/15/2012 11:14 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4uno_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: On 04/15/2012 02:19 AM, wgm4u wrote: Most people HAVE health insurance, what we need is more competition to bring down the cost of Health Ins. not give it over to the 'DMV'. ;-) How do you define most people? Around 17 percent have no health insurance at all and there is a far larger group who are considered under insured.I wouldn't hold my breathe anytime soon for more competition in the health insurance industry. I'm sure the existing ones particularly in California lobbied pull the ladder up laws to make sure they don't get any competition from startups. Yes, we don't want the cranky rude types you find at the DMV running things. There also needs to be some major changes in government jobs. They can't be for life and we need to have a way to boot the rudies out. But I don't see the greedy pig CEO at the insurance companies changing their ways anytime soon. The only insurance exec who did that was Wendall Potter and only after he left the industry and saw how screwed Americans were. I define 'most' by 83%; most people have health insurance already! When I had health insurance, it was with a $5000 deductible... Even so, making the payments cost me quite literally every penny I had, and of course, I never was able to afford to have the operation I needed anyway. L. Did you check to see how much that operation would have cost 20 years earlier? The inflation of health costs like operations have skyrocketed absurdly. If anything technology should have kept prices down but it's like health care practitioners want to have a big party... at your expense.
[FairfieldLife] hacked
Dear FF friends, my e mail has been hacked and it was done on this group i'm 100% sure. anyone else have problems with email going out with spam not from you? these bastards who do this stuff should go to jail. Chris Menkemeyer
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Mark Landau
That's where I highly recommend Doomsday Preppers on the National Geographic Channel if you haven't cut the cable yet. Each episode shows things people have done to prepare for disaster and then at the end of the episode their get a score from experts on their preparations and recommendations. We're both in earthquake country and you are in volcano country too since Ranier could blow it's stack that would be a mess so being ready is a good idea. We have floods around here but my house is up on a rise and on a street running uphill slightly from where the local flood controlled creek is. So floods are unlikely in my neighborhood but they have them downtown and merchants fight the beaver fanatics who want to protect the dam that beavers have built downtown screwing up the flood control channel. On 04/16/2012 12:02 AM, Emily Reyn wrote: I made that comment not as I wish I could get a job as an engineer but in the context of survival skills...grow, build, fix...self-sufficient-like. Declaring bankruptcy is still a method of not paying any bills - my ex is on his third. The job I receive from the universe will not be that of an engineer :) From: Bhairitunoozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Mark Landau Not sure that being an engineer is any easy job ticket especially if you are older. Supposedly in the Bay Area they are beginning to hire older folks for adult supervision at software companies (the VCs are demanding it). I haven't seen anything from that though I have one B2B inquiring about me doing some UI design. I can do that but I'm not used to dealing with business companies who seem so left brained. They expect a veneer that I don't have as I consider myself a jazz musician who likes writing computer code. And like you my jobs found me. I'm not good at beating the bushes so to speak and recruiters often sent me out on mismatches. Back in the day there was some slack in life. If you went broke you could declare bankruptcy (still can but it's harder). Just ask some of the folks here as I'm sure there are a few who did that when they couldn't pay off their loans for TTC or the Sidhis course. I know of some who did that. On 04/15/2012 10:49 AM, Emily Reyn wrote: I have money in the bank as well, although it's dwindling fast. Money may not be of much use to you. I wish I was an engineer! From: wgm4uno_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Mark Landau --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reynemilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip This country is so tied up in knots that a complete collapse probably is the only solution. Unfortunately not fun. I hope not, but you might be right, I actually have money in the bank! (Don't tell anybody, especially a democrat). Ha, hence my desire to grow vegetables :) The survival skill set that may be needed is not one that us urban folks have. Necessity is the Mother of invention...
[FairfieldLife] spam
OK, i was wrong, the hacking came from another yahoo group called shiv...@yahoogroups.com Chris
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary Partying in Colombia
On 04/16/2012 12:18 PM, John wrote: This could mean she's no longer interested in seeking another political office in the future. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/hillary-clinton-parties-colombia-photos-dancing-beer-slugging-142828267.html I'll take somebody who parties hardy as long as they have brains over some prudish nutcase with a stick up his ass like Santorum.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
I wonder whether, when he was given his weight in gold, he got to keep the money, or whether the TMO scarfed it up. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of turquoiseb Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 2:38 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Eh, MMY liked him. See my previous post. Also, pampered rich guy may not be a proper description of him. Ahem. Tony Nader was *LONG* after my time. I never encountered his holy countenance while still a part of the TMO, and only heard of him on forums like this. But what about his lifestyle *since* he was sat on a big fucking scale and given his weight in gold (Yes, lurkers, that really happened) does *NOT* qualify in your mind as being a pampered rich guy. Whatever else you may think of him because of how Maharishi regarded him, the dude has been able to live a *rather* pampered -- and duplicitous -- life ever since. Onstage, he got to be Rajafuckingram, symbol of the wisdom of silence, the power of bramacharya (celibacy), and the all-powerful Woo Woo of Vedic Invincibility. Offstage, he got to have (presumably, and presumably *all* paid for by the TMO) a nice apartment in Paris in which he kept the wife and children he kept hidden from everyone in the TM movement, including his closest friends. And he got to live there in the kind of style that we have all heard rumors of -- involving having his cooks prepare him seven different meals each night, so that he could peruse them and then reject all but one, Raja-style. I mean, dude. Saudi Sheiks can't get away with this shit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Though Tony Nader isn't identified on these YouTube videos as being king or maharaja he stills comes across as some kind of pampered rich guy, maybe a baron or a count who lives in Luxemborg or some other tax-haven-supported, European principality. His talk, such as it was, wasn't anything that any of the former teachers who post here didn't duplicate scores or hundreds of times during their careers as TM initiators. There was some charm, at least originally, with Maharishi's playful riffing on the sounds and similarities of English words as revealing some greater underlying truth, but saying wholeness over and over again doesn't convey much weight or depth of knowledge or experience. At least to me. Why would anyone listen to this guy? This appears to be a pretty lightweight shtick with little to recommend it. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: To drop using the king title is to directly refute Maharishi's political agenda for the movement's future. To eschew it so nonchalantly and without any announcement about its being back-burnered, shows how shallowly these rajas look at their role playing. If you can't levitate or bring back the dead or walk on water or feed a multitude from two minnows and three slices of bread, SHUT THE FUCK UP. That's what I should have said to Maharishi when -- instead -- I handed him a rose and had a pissant googly-eyed face of adoration. That he allowed me to be such a fool is HIS SIN..think of the hundreds of thousands of such sins he must now atone for. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Yep, he's come to a point in a career of having to leave the crown behind to get bigger-time on the spiritual teacher circuits. It is exciting to watch, kind of like in the 'Got Talent' auditions, 'Jonathan' will have to leave 'Charlotte'� behind to make it. He just needs more experience. I wish him well and hope the best for him. He's got an important message to say to all of us in his way. http://www.godvine.com/Shy-Boy-and-his-Friend-Shock-the-Audience-with-The-Pr ayer-Unbelievable-1318.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: hacked
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, chris m menkemeyer@... wrote: Dear FF friends, my e mail has been hacked and it was done on this group i'm 100% sure. anyone else have problems with email going out with spam not from you? these bastards who do this stuff should go to jail. Chris Menkemeyer My condolences, Chris, and for the record that is exactly what I assumed happened when I saw the spambot posted here attributed to you. This is exactly why I don't subscribe here using my full email address. Kudos to Alex for blowing away the Xtian spammerbot recently. He was clearly mining this group for email addresses, with the same idea in mind. Well...sorta the same idea. The ijiot who hacked Chris had profit for themselves in mind. The Xtian ijiot only sought to profit Jeezus. That makes it all holy and all. Both felt it appropriate to spam others with their message, because THE MESSAGE is just so...so...so IMPORTANT, doncha know...
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip I mean, dude. Saudi Sheiks can't get away with this shit. You sound more than unusual bizzarre today Turq. Perhaps these people can be a help: http://www.aa-netherlands.org/drupal/amsterdam
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
On Apr 16, 2012, at 3:09 PM, sparaig wrote: Eh, MMY liked him. Also, pampered rich guy may not be a proper description of him. Intelligent and charming actually would. One thing that’s not mentioned enough is that the guess does beguile with intelligence and sincerity. He truly believes what he’s saying. That’s not to say just anyone would go for a consciousness is primary, matter is secondary spiel. You’d have to be indoctrinated and believe already.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
On Apr 16, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I wonder whether, when he was given his weight in gold, he got to keep the money, or whether the TMO scarfed it up. A great interview question for you. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Hey Rick did ya ever interview King Tony? Or try?
Rick -- did you ever try to get Tony for an interview? I'm betting you didn't trycuz, you know, Tony would be insulted that he was just another like your other interviewees. So, that concept being on the table; let me ask ya, Rick, who is the tippy top best get on your part in terms of the person interviewed having a big audience already achieved? I'm thinking Gangaji was your high-water markum, yes? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 16, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I wonder whether, when he was given his weight in gold, he got to keep the money, or whether the TMO scarfed it up. A great interview question for you. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hey Rick did ya ever interview King Tony? Or try?
On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Rick -- did you ever try to get Tony for an interview? I'm betting you didn't trycuz, you know, Tony would be insulted that he was just another like your other interviewees. So, that concept being on the table; let me ask ya, Rick, who is the tippy top best get on your part in terms of the person interviewed having a big audience already achieved? I'm thinking Gangaji was your high-water markum, yes? If you want to get Tony to interview, get Girish first, then call Tony’s publicist... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: I wonder whether, when he was given his weight in gold, he got to keep the money, or whether the TMO scarfed it up. FWIW, from the press release announcing the event: Professor Nader will be seated on one side of a special scale, and gold will be piled up on the other side until the scale balances. This gold then will be given to Professor Nader as his scientific award, and deposited in a bank to support his continued scientific work. http://www.webcitation.org/5snPYyU2X
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary Partying in Colombia
Now, she's showing her human side. There are some people, as shown in a video clip I saw yesterday, who believe that Hillary is reptilian, just like the Queen of England. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 04/16/2012 12:18 PM, John wrote: This could mean she's no longer interested in seeking another political office in the future. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/hillary-clinton-parties-colombia-photos-dancing-beer-slugging-142828267.html I'll take somebody who parties hardy as long as they have brains over some prudish nutcase with a stick up his ass like Santorum.
[FairfieldLife] Old Billionaire Marries for 5th Time
He believes he can start a new family with his new bride. So, it appears there's hope for some of the confirmed bachelors in this forum. http://shine.yahoo.com/vitality/94-old-billionaire-marries-fifth-time-old-rich-171900363.html
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Mark Landau
On 04/15/2012 02:19 AM, wgm4u wrote: Most people HAVE health insurance, what we need is more competition to bring down the cost of Health Ins. not give it over to the 'DMV'. ;-) Speaking of the DMV, the California one, today I took my Forester in for the bi-annual smog test. I sat there while waiting for two people ahead of me to get their vehicle checked how ridiculously long this takes. In California they turned this into a gig for abandoned gas stations etc. When I lived in Washington it was a state run drive through that took less than 5 minutes. In California this test takes about 15-20 minutes though mine might have taken only 10 for some reason. You also want to shop around and find the best deals though I urge care as I knew someone who took it to one of these testing stations and a couple days later their car was stolen. The cops told them the place they went to for the test was under suspicion for duplicating keys and later stealing the vehicles. Prices can range so finding that coupon is often worth it. In this case I took it to the same place I went for the last one and found it under new ownership. Still they had a competitive price. When I got home I went looking for articles complaining about the test and found that starting next year it will cost less and take far less time that is if you have a newer vehicle with an onboard computer (many 1996 and later models do as mine does). They can just plug in and get a record of emissions without running the mechanical tests. California is apparently a little behind because 22 states already do this.
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Eh, MMY liked him. See my previous post. Also, pampered rich guy may not be a proper description of him. Ahem. Tony Nader was *LONG* after my time. I never encountered his holy countenance while still a part of the TMO, and only heard of him on forums like this. To be perfectly frank with you, I've been meditating (correctly) longer than Roger Ram (1968) and still haven't achieved CC, (or even GC), doesn't mean it's not possible, only that it's unlikely Roger Ram has achieved anything like that either. The devil is in the details, Self Realization does not come from a few years of mantra meditation, all limbs were meant to be practiced simultaneously MMY/Gita appendix You could meditate a million years and not reach CC, UNLESS you come to these courses, MMY/Fuiggi in Fuiggi Fonte Auditorium 1972, heard by my own ears, BillyG. PS. or maybe I'm in CC and don't even know it, kind of like TC, nyuk! But then, what GOOD would it be? Hey, Roger Ram, just be yourself!
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip More seriously, isn't it fascinating the reverence that Nabby (and not just him) has (have) for the TM Checking Procedure? It's as if they really believe that all life's problems can be solved by getting a checking. Hmm, anybody here believe all life's problems can be solved by getting checked? Barry will wait. BTW, notice how the as if magically vanishes in his next sentence and they really believe becomes a fact: My bet is that the people who believe this have never actually checked another TMer's meditation It's...uh...AS IF Barry actually believes there are people who believe all life's problems can be solved by checking.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-dual meditation!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 15, 2012, at 4:24 PM, sparaig wrote: snip [Vaj wrote:] Remember when they found rat feces in the Maharishi Amrit Kalash? Nothing says �India like rat shit in your rasayana! That wasn't MAK. Ahhh yes you're right, Declares Vaj, pretending he didn't know all along. I just don't remember which one. Vaj never knew which one, actually, nor does he know what kind of creature the purported fecal contamination came from. But a lot of TMers take MAK, and ratshit sounds especially disgusting, so Vaj thought he might as well use those terms for maximum shock value. For that matter, Vaj doesn't know whether there was actually any fecal contamination found. The claim was made that it was, but unfortunately (or possibly conveniently) the sample was destroyed in that initial testing, so the results couldn't be verified.
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip More seriously, isn't it fascinating the reverence that Nabby (and not just him) has (have) for the TM Checking Procedure? It's as if they really believe that all life's problems can be solved by getting a checking. Hmm, anybody here believe all life's problems can be solved by getting checked? Barry will wait. BTW, notice how the as if magically vanishes in his next sentence and they really believe becomes a fact: My bet is that the people who believe this have never actually checked another TMer's meditation It's...uh...AS IF Barry actually believes there are people who believe all life's problems can be solved by checking. I think the problem arises when some TM'ers don't overcome all/or most of their problems *in just a short period of time* as proposed by the tmorg (AND MMY), so when these *miraculous transformations* DON'T take place there is a certain 'disillusionment' with the tmorg; hence Turq, VAJ, etc. and others, FWIW. I found it amusing MMY debating Malcolm Muggeridge when he (MMY) proclaimed all of these benefits of TM, and not acknowledging the *TIME* required to achieved even a modicum of control of these proclivities. If you look at it from this prescriptive it falls on it's face! Introduction of Patanjali and *ALL* eight limbs of YOGA, for success! Yes, MMY, SELF CONTROL IS NECESSARY! according to Patanjali himself!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIAnzvuglF4
RE: [FairfieldLife] Hey Rick did ya ever interview King Tony? Or try?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hey Rick did ya ever interview King Tony? Or try? Rick -- did you ever try to get Tony for an interview? I'm betting you didn't trycuz, you know, Tony would be insulted that he was just another like your other interviewees. So, that concept being on the table; let me ask ya, Rick, who is the tippy top best get on your part in terms of the person interviewed having a big audience already achieved? I'm thinking Gangaji was your high-water markum, yes? I guess it would have to be a toss-up between Gangaji and Adyashanti. I'm working on Eckhart Tolle.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Hey Rick did ya ever interview King Tony? Or try?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Hey Rick did ya ever interview King Tony? Or try? On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Rick -- did you ever try to get Tony for an interview? I'm betting you didn't trycuz, you know, Tony would be insulted that he was just another like your other interviewees. So, that concept being on the table; let me ask ya, Rick, who is the tippy top best get on your part in terms of the person interviewed having a big audience already achieved? I'm thinking Gangaji was your high-water markum, yes? If you want to get Tony to interview, get Girish first, then call Tony's publicist... :-) I don't think anyone well-known in the movement would dare to come on my show. . http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=3920196/grpspId=1705077076/msgId =308597/stime=1334609294/nc1=5522125/nc2=3848643/nc3=5741391
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:04 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... wrote: I wonder whether, when he was given his weight in gold, he got to keep the money, or whether the TMO scarfed it up. FWIW, from the press release announcing the event: Professor Nader will be seated on one side of a special scale, and gold will be piled up on the other side until the scale balances. This gold then will be given to Professor Nader as his scientific award, and deposited in a bank to support his continued scientific work. http://www.webcitation.org/5snPYyU2X Hmmm. And what has been that scientific work. What sort of funding has it required? Equipment? Lab assistants?
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
Assuming that this WAS part of MMY's purpose with the crown thing, it was based on personal experience with another charismatic (remember that this is abu Nader's first introduction to the general public) person whom he promoted high into the TM organization. Say what you will about Bevan Morris, but he paid his own way to india when he was a kid to be with MMY and stuck with him for 40 years. Chopra, according to his own autobiography, was always in it partly for the money, or so the comments he quotes from his wife's first meeting with MMY suggest. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: What do you mean even he? I have never gotten the impression that he enjoys being king. In fact, I have always noted a slight discomfort when he's wearing his crown and such. As would be expected, in a relatively sane person. As far as I am concerned, the crown thing is meant to prevent another Deepak Chopra where the TM organization expended 10 years of resources on creating a media sensation, only to have him abandon them once he got big enough. King Tony, as head of the TM organization, really can't appear on Oprah, or any other talk show. While I do not necessarily disagree with anything you say here -- from Maharishi's perspective -- do you realize what it says from a slightly different perspective? That is, one in which Maharishi felt that he had to go out of his way to screen out any possibility of individual thought or charisma in his successor? Can't have that. Otherwise someday they might be...uh...erecting Maharajaram Towers Of Invincibility. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch Note though, that he's not presenting himself as Raja etc but only as Tony Nader. No titles, no nothing. So, at least on the videos, he's not in a formal setting. Is there any possibility that anyone outside the TM world would take him seriously if he pretended he *was* in a formal setting, and they should regard him as a king? While I agree with you that it is wise of him not to try to run this cult riff on a non-cult audience, I may disagree on the motivation behind it. I would suggest that even *he* knows that it would be impossible to pull off the King Thing when dealing with a rational audience. The *only* place he can do that is among TB TMers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Eh, MMY liked him. See my previous post. Also, pampered rich guy may not be a proper description of him. Ahem. Tony Nader was *LONG* after my time. I never encountered his holy countenance while still a part of the TMO, and only heard of him on forums like this. But what about his lifestyle *since* he was sat on a big fucking scale and given his weight in gold (Yes, lurkers, that really happened) does *NOT* qualify in your mind as being a pampered rich guy. It was a publicity gimmick. As I understand it, the weight in gold was acutally a research grant. Whatever else you may think of him because of how Maharishi regarded him, the dude has been able to live a *rather* pampered -- and duplicitous -- life ever since. Onstage, he got to be Rajafuckingram, symbol of the wisdom of silence, the power of bramacharya (celibacy), and the all-powerful Woo Woo of Vedic Invincibility. Offstage, he got to have (presumably, and presumably *all* paid for by the TMO) a nice apartment in Paris in which he kept the wife and children he kept hidden from everyone in the TM movement, including his closest friends. And he got to live there in the kind of style that we have all heard rumors of -- involving having his cooks prepare him seven different meals each night, so that he could peruse them and then reject all but one, Raja-style. I've never heard that kind of rumor before. Interesting. I mean, dude. Saudi Sheiks can't get away with this shit. Er, doubtful. The Saudi Royals were and are far more elaborate in what they did. L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:04 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I wonder whether, when he was given his weight in gold, he got to keep the money, or whether the TMO scarfed it up. FWIW, from the press release announcing the event: Professor Nader will be seated on one side of a special scale, and gold will be piled up on the other side until the scale balances. This gold then will be given to Professor Nader as his scientific award, and deposited in a bank to support his continued scientific work. http://www.webcitation.org/5snPYyU2X Hmmm. And what has been that scientific work. What sort of funding has it required? Equipment? Lab assistants? At one point, I recall that Ted Wallace (one of the Wallace kids at least) was working with abu Nader on some research project. L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip And he got to live there in the kind of style that we have all heard rumors of -- involving having his cooks prepare him seven different meals each night, so that he could peruse them and then reject all but one, Raja-style. I mean, dude. Saudi Sheiks can't get away with this shit. Notice again how Barry's wording manages to turn rumor into established fact.
[FairfieldLife] Latest David Lynch Foundation function
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apb_hRf66DE Healing and Empowering Women: A David Lynch Foundation Forum Best thing yet. L
