[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you Let's get the quotes right, OK? I think your days here [i.e., on FFL] are numbered. What he actually wrote doesn't sound quite so much like a death threat, does it? I am going to resist your invasions, I am going to fight back, and eventually, Robin, I will humble you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
This is excellent. Ha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTo-96KyArgfeature=related From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh0luSsP91I --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Judy, you do leave me speechless. Almost. It is at this point I reflect on the last Narnia book, The Last Battle, when the ape Shift turns the truth upside down. And succeeds in doing so for a while. I guess that's a difference between that book and FFL. I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment. I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy. That could happen you know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: This would be funny if it weren't so sad. Curtis is being pummeled because he has requested that Robin not make false quotes that are attributable to Curtis. No, that isn't why he's being pummeled. But his lunch is indeed getting eaten. He should be grateful we aren't drinking his milkshake as well. We may get around to that, though. Here we are on the playground. Robin steals Curtis' lunch. Curtis objects. Robin: I never heard you say you wanted that lunch Curtis: Well I just assumed. Robin: Assumed what? How do I know you wanted to eat your lunch if you didn't say so? Curtis: Normally I just eat my own lunch. Isn't that how it works? Judy rambling up: Yea, I didn't hear you say you wanted to eat your lunch. That makes it fair game. If you want your lunch, let's hear why. And it better be good Robin: Come on Judy. You eat the PP@J mailto:PP@J , and I'll eat the Snickers bar and the jello And off they go into the distance with Curtis' lunch --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra maskedzebra@ wrote: Dear Curtis, Take the two instances where I have attempted to represent your voice, and specify which passages in either post you feel are untruthful; that is, you would not say what I have you saying. There were many statements in what you wrote that I wouldn't want anyone to think I had generated. If there are such statements, this tends to defeat my argument. I would like some examples. I only read the last one, I couldn't find the first one. And no I don't need to go over the post to prove to you it doesn't represent my POV. You sure as hell do if you want to make a case for the assertion Robin quotes, Curtis. You won't because you can't. Here's the first one, by the way: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319527
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Wading through all this I caught a glimpse of something about my replying to my own reply! I've been reading all the posts, and I didn't see anything like that, Share. I think you must have misunderstood something somebody said.  Everyone, this tells me that I was right in my earlier email to Ann. Time to bow out. Obviously I am unable to keep track of my own writing much less anyone else's. However, if someone still has issue with my part in all this, you are welcome to email me directly. I'll try to answer your concern and or question. Sorry I can't reply directly to everyone who has been supportive. Thank you so much. Soldier on. But have fun too From: seventhray1 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Judy, you do leave me speechless. Almost. It is at this point I reflect on the last Narnia book, The Last Battle, when the ape Shift turns the truth upside down. And succeeds in doing so for a while. I guess that's a difference between that book and FFL. I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment. I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy. That could happen you know.  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: This would be funny if it weren't so sad. Curtis is being pummeled because he has requested that Robin not make false quotes that are attributable to Curtis. No, that isn't why he's being pummeled. But his lunch is indeed getting eaten. He should be grateful we aren't drinking his milkshake as well. We may get around to that, though. Here we are on the playground. Robin steals Curtis' lunch. Curtis objects. Robin: I never heard you say you wanted that lunch Curtis: Well I just assumed. Robin: Assumed what? How do I know you wanted to eat your lunch if you didn't say so? Curtis: Normally I just eat my own lunch. Isn't that how it works? Judy rambling up: Yea, I didn't hear you say you wanted to eat your lunch. That makes it fair game. If you want your lunch, let's hear why. And it better be good Robin: Come on Judy. You eat the PP@J mailto:PP@J , and I'll eat the Snickers bar and the jello And off they go into the distance with Curtis' lunch --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra maskedzebra@ wrote: Dear Curtis, Take the two instances where I have attempted to represent your voice, and specify which passages in either post you feel are untruthful; that is, you would not say what I have you saying. There were many statements in what you wrote that I wouldn't want anyone to think I had generated. If there are such statements, this tends to defeat my argument. I would like some examples. I only read the last one, I couldn't find the first one. And no I don't need to go over the post to prove to you it doesn't represent my POV. You sure as hell do if you want to make a case for the assertion Robin quotes, Curtis. You won't because you can't. Here's the first one, by the way: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319527
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Curtis: So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. Robin: You would say and have said much worse, Curtis. I gave you a break by truthfully representing the *content* of what you would say (everyone knows I got it right in principle, in theme, in essence) but giving it some Robin lightness--just so no one would miss the necessary gag. Curtis: You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. Robin: No, Curtis. You are a deceiver and a coward: I feel great pity for you that you will never put yourself out there to find out what it feels *when you rely only on the truth and your own felt sense of innocence*--then reality, even if we don't know this, comes to our rescue. You always *go it alone*, sealed up in your violent pride which brooks no opposition. I have resisted you, Curtis--in a number of ways: I am waiting for you to defend yourself on reasonable and legitimate terms. You keep being an intellectual terrorist. I have no friends that pile on here, Curtis: they could all hate me and the truth about you would be the same. Your friends don't call you on your shit; if I have any friends here, I know they would not let me bullshit without telling me. Curtis: I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. Robin: Well, then, the Hopkins poem would have been incongruous wouldn't it. As it was *The Caged Skylark* became the ultimate commentary on what is going on here. Think about that, Curtis: for *anything you say here to be true* would mean that I was upstaging myself and refuting myself and mocking myself--because Hopkins's poem would show this. Curtis: If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. Robin: A very weak ending, Curtis. Hamlet died, don't you remember? He didn't walk off and throw a cucumber at Laertes: and say: You're just a punk, Laertes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going, Curtis. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: You just don't get it Robin. No one likes to be mispresented, or impersonated. I think it 's pretty simple. No, YOU don't get it, Steve. That isn't the issue. Curtis is within his rights to ask Robin to stop. Curtis is not within his rights (ethically, at any rate) to claim Robin has misrepresented the kind of thing he might say about Robin. Really? So I have threatened Robin that his days on FFL are numbered? That I will humble him? I have to make a case for how he misrepresented me to get him to stop? You don't get the issue Judy. You are following Robin's lead to coerce me into going point by point to refute his made-up bullshit. As if that is the main point of why it might not be cool to make up shit and sign other people's names. Judy, your eyes are brown on this one. Guess why. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra maskedzebra@ wrote: Dear Curtis, Take the two instances where I have attempted to represent your voice, and specify which passages in either post you feel are untruthful; that
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
You speak French don't you Em? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsTMhScumOE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsTMhScumOE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: This is excellent. Â Ha. Â http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTo-96KyArgfeature=related From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! Â http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh0luSsP91I --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Judy, you do leave me speechless. Almost. It is at this point I reflect on the last Narnia book, The Last Battle, when the ape Shift turns the truth upside down. And succeeds in doing so for a while. I guess that's a difference between that book and FFL. I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment. I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy. That could happen you know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: This would be funny if it weren't so sad. Curtis is being pummeled because he has requested that Robin not make false quotes that are attributable to Curtis. No, that isn't why he's being pummeled. But his lunch is indeed getting eaten. He should be grateful we aren't drinking his milkshake as well. We may get around to that, though. Here we are on the playground. Robin steals Curtis' lunch. Curtis objects. Robin: I never heard you say you wanted that lunch Curtis: Well I just assumed. Robin: Assumed what? How do I know you wanted to eat your lunch if you didn't say so? Curtis: Normally I just eat my own lunch. Isn't that how it works? Judy rambling up: Yea, I didn't hear you say you wanted to eat your lunch. That makes it fair game. If you want your lunch, let's hear why. And it better be good Robin: Come on Judy. You eat the PP@J mailto:PP@J , and I'll eat the Snickers bar and the jello And off they go into the distance with Curtis' lunch --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra maskedzebra@ wrote: Dear Curtis, Take the two instances where I have attempted to represent your voice, and specify which passages in either post you feel are untruthful; that is, you would not say what I have you saying. There were many statements in what you wrote that I wouldn't want anyone to think I had generated. If there are such statements, this tends to defeat my argument. I would like some examples. I only read the last one, I couldn't find the first one. And no I don't need to go over the post to prove to you it doesn't represent my POV. You sure as hell do if you want to make a case for the assertion Robin quotes, Curtis. You won't because you can't. Here's the first one, by the way: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319527
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Dear Curtis. Thank you for asking for a re-post of this. I missed it as well. Objectively, without parsing the details, this is a brilliant piece of work. Robin has managed, somehow, to capture almost perfectly his own MO from your perspective and others' actually, although perhaps not exclusively, as you note. How many people are able to represent so accurately another's viewpoint of themselves - he must have tried on the Reality of it all, dontcha think...maybe just one shoe? You must admit you have made these key points on many occasions, albeit using different words: * Look, Robin, I think you are a good guy, very sincere and all that; but you have one fatal flaw: you seek to judge the motivations of other persons, and not only do you fumble and stumble around (it is actually quite embarrassing, Robin), but you actually miss hitting the truth of the person altogether. * You can intuit all you like, Robin, but the act of judging what someone says by what you believe to be their inner faults, this is not only inappropriate and offensive--it is the most unreliable form of truth there could ever be. But beyond this, Robin, it is violation of the code of human relationships. You have just gone one step too far here, Robin, in your rather pathetic and unconvincing analysis of irony. And I don't appreciate your bringing me into your little dance of self-congratulations. * I would just ask you one more time, Robin: Deal with me on the basis of what I write. You see, Robin, you can't act as if you are the knower of what my motives are, my character. * Robin, can't see how you are acting out a little ritual here which has become so familiar to most of us that at this point it just seems like a cheap Vegas act--where the audience dwindles every night. Now, this last oneyour analogies are more creative, but the spirit is captured. Curtis, you have the skill set to reply in-kind, should you so choose. If I were you, I wouldn't waste my time responding to Robin's request to show him what about his post *wasn't* an accurate reflection of your position. Sounds like you might be finished for the day though; it was a helluva show and thank you for your participation. It might have been annoying as hell from your seat, but from mine, it was insanely funny. But, just so you know, I am *not* laughing at your expense. I thank you for letting Robin get under your skin a bit. It was good for me Curtis, I hope it was good for you too. From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 3:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! Dear Robin: I think, Robin, you are way out of line here. As a matter of fact *I never even read your post*. But now having read it, I can tell you: *It doesn't make it, Robin*, and your confident assertions about your use of irony in relation to me is itself a form of irony. Because--listen up, Robin--you don't 'get' me at all, and the words you put in my mouth there were a misrepresentation of what I might have said to you. Look, Robin, I think you are a good guy, very sincere and all that; but you have one fatal flaw: you seek to judge the motivations of other persons, and not only do you fumble and stumble around (it is actually quite embarrassing, Robin), but you actually miss hitting the truth of the person altogether. You can intuit all you like, Robin, but the act of judging what someone says by what you believe to be their inner faults, this is not only inappropriate and offensive--it is the most unreliable form of truth there could ever be. But beyond this, Robin, it is violation of the code of human relationships. You have just gone one step too far here, Robin, in your rather pathetic and unconvincing analysis of irony. And I don't appreciate your bringing me into your little dance of self-congratulations. I would just ask you one more time, Robin: Deal with me on the basis of what I write; don't pry into my soul, because--you must surely know this by now, Robin--you are engaged in an activity which makes it obvious why you blew up with your enlightenment trip: You see, Robin, you can't act as if you are the knower of what my motives are, my character. And the longer you persist in doing this, the more you are headed for a fall. I don't want to see you lose it, Robin. You are a kind of fanatic. And sooner or later you will get it through your brain and heart: I am going to resist your invasions, I am going to fight back, and eventually, Robin, I will humble you. Believe me, this is said in love, Robin: You are deeply flawed, and I have tried to act as your friend. But you are hopelessly beyond the reach of those who would give you the right advice. Meanwhile your admirers encourage and indulge you in this, and they are acting
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: You just don't get it Robin. No one likes to be mispresented, or impersonated. I think it 's pretty simple. No, YOU don't get it, Steve. That isn't the issue. Curtis is within his rights to ask Robin to stop. Curtis is not within his rights (ethically, at any rate) to claim Robin has misrepresented the kind of thing he might say about Robin. Really? So I have threatened Robin that his days on FFL are numbered? That I will humble him? I have to make a case for how he misrepresented me to get him to stop? Let me put it another way: Curtis is within his rights to ask Robin to stop. Curtis is not within his rights (ethically, at any rate) to claim Robin has misrepresented the kind of thing he might say about Robin. You don't get the issue Judy. You are following Robin's lead to coerce me into going point by point to refute his made-up bullshit. As if that is the main point of why it might not be cool to make up shit and sign other people's names. No, Curtis. You made it the main point. When you accuse someone of having misrepresented you, you need to be able to back it up. If you'd left that one sentence out, you wouldn't be getting any shit for asking him to stop. You could have had a clean win on that. But that sentence was dishonest. You knew it was dishonest. You can't support it. And now you're trying to cover yourself dishonestly by pretending that isn't the issue. Judy, your eyes are brown on this one. Guess why. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra maskedzebra@ wrote: Dear Curtis, Take the two instances where I have attempted to represent your voice, and specify which passages in either post you feel are untruthful; that is, you would not say what I have you saying. There were many statements in what you wrote that I wouldn't want anyone to think I had generated. If there are such statements, this tends to defeat my argument. I would like some examples. Once you provide these, I will arrange--I am sure either Rick and Alex can do this--to head each of these posts with: ROBIN PRETENDS HE IS CURTIS. HE ISN'T REALLY. NONE OF WHAT FOLLOWS IS WHAT CURTIS WOULD DREAM OF SAYING. THIS POST HAS NOTHING DO WITH CURTIS. I am sure this will clear up the problem, won't it, Curtis? You are such a sweet and loveable guy. Oh, by the way, I do believe I represented your sentiments exactly. I would like to hear you refute what I have said so I can imagine how I could have been wrong here. If you would not have said (in principle) what i have you saying then it means the irony did not--to use a Share word--fly. If you can sincerely show me examples of statements--in either post--which are false in their attempt to speak in your voice, I need to see them. Because, to repeat myself for the third time, it means I did not succeed in what I attempted. Now let us love one another, Curtis. I have followed you very closely for over a year. What i said in both posts for me was Curtis all the way. Just not as witty, not as hard-hitting, not as clever, not as colorful. For me, everything is forever. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Do I really have to ask you not to do this very douchey thing Robin? really? OK then I'll ask. Please don't sign my name at the bottom of straw men versions of my POV out of respect for the fact that most of us just skim posts within our otherwise busy days and it is hard enough to keep track without this in the mix. There were many statements in what you wrote that I wouldn't want anyone to think I had generated. If you want to play fast and lose with accuracy and just assume other people will keep up, please do it at your expense in the future,not mine. This shit we put up on the Internet is FOREVER. It carries some responsibilities.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going, Curtis. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: You just don't get it Robin. No one likes to be mispresented, or impersonated. I think it 's pretty simple. No, YOU don't get it, Steve. That isn't the issue. Curtis is within his rights to ask Robin to stop. Curtis is not within his rights (ethically, at any rate) to claim Robin has misrepresented the kind of thing he might say about Robin. Really? So I have threatened Robin that his days on FFL are numbered? That I will humble him? I have to make a case for how he misrepresented me to get him to stop? You don't get the issue Judy. You are following Robin's lead to coerce me into going point by point to refute his made-up bullshit. As if that is the main point of why it might not be cool to make up shit and sign other people's names. Judy, your eyes are brown on this one. Guess why. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra maskedzebra@ wrote: Dear Curtis, Take the two instances where I have attempted to represent your voice, and specify which passages in either post you feel are untruthful; that is, you would not say what I have you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe. No worries. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going, Curtis. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: You just don't get it Robin. No one likes to be mispresented, or impersonated. I think it 's pretty simple. No, YOU don't get it, Steve. That isn't the issue. Curtis is within his rights to ask Robin to stop. Curtis is not within his rights (ethically, at any rate) to claim Robin has misrepresented the kind of thing he might say about Robin. Really? So I have threatened Robin that his days on FFL are numbered? That I will humble him? I have to make a case for how he misrepresented me to get him to stop? You don't get the issue Judy. You are following Robin's lead to coerce me into going point by point to refute his made-up bullshit. As if that is the main point of why it might not be cool to make up shit and sign other people's
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe.  No worries.  It's true, may be you all could move this thread off-line between yous now. Like, what's between you keep between you and spare the neighborhood. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote:  OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going, Curtis. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: You just don't get it Robin. No one likes to be mispresented, or impersonated. I think it 's pretty simple. No, YOU don't get it, Steve. That isn't the issue. Curtis is within his rights to ask Robin to stop. Curtis is not within his rights (ethically, at any rate) to claim Robin has misrepresented the kind of thing he might say about Robin. Really? So I have threatened Robin that his days on FFL are numbered? That I will humble him?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe.  No worries.  I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote:  OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going, Curtis. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: You just don't get it Robin. No one likes to be mispresented, or impersonated. I think it 's pretty simple. No, YOU don't get it, Steve. That isn't the issue. Curtis is within his rights to ask Robin to stop. Curtis is not within his rights (ethically, at any rate) to claim Robin has misrepresented the kind of thing
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Buck up, Buck. Milk those cows. Love the ladies. Pick the four-leaf clovers. Race your Ferrari. Kiss those beautiful black swans. Dive off those Acapulco cliffs. Write those sonnets of beautiful despair. Life us up with your blue wings. Scare us on Halloween with your wit. You are the Veda dancing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe.  No worries.  It's true, may be you all could move this thread off-line between yous now. Like, what's between you keep between you and spare the neighborhood. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:  OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going, Curtis. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: You
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
You have the strangest compulsions, Susan. Read Emily's post which came before this one. Answer that. You're a funny lady. But you're right: 90% does it. I feel this right in my bones. Casey hit a home run. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe.  No worries.  I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:  OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going, Curtis. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pundits' Union formed in Fairfield, Iowa
Om Jeez, did you see this trash posted here earlier today as creativity? Dear FFL Moderators, as an experienced and old conservative meditator here I'm concerned for the integrity of our FFL with Yahoo-groups over this kind of Obscenity being posted here. These people. They are doing it again bringing and posting smut here. Spiritually I am completely offended by this kind of smut-peddling being posted here by these people. They are using our list's open-ness against us for their own prurient interests. It is needlessly inflammatory, extremely low-brow and completely discouraging to any civil discourse of the community. Moderators, you simply must be more pro-active in protecting the spiritual integrity of our FFL forum.. Do your duty and do something. Be forthright and bold about these nattering nabobs of negativity posting this trash on our list. Their coming to FFL mostly as immigrants with little stake we have now more than our share of them. Nattering nabobs of negativism they have formed their own 4-H Club -- the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history. Un-repentant they have nothing of spiritual worth to offer here. Not just shunned, they should not allowed to post on FFL. Kindly, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [Explicative text Deleted]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe.  No worries.  I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. JESUS. Poor Susan! Maybe she should give a course in selective reading. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:  OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going, Curtis. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: You just don't get it Robin. No one likes to be mispresented, or impersonated. I think it 's pretty simple. No, YOU don't get
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:08 PM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) Â It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe. Â No worries. Â I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. JESUS. Poor Susan! Maybe she should give a course in selective reading. What's new - I should have clarified it better - old boy clique and their women who just support them, no questions asked, Susans, Sals - just light their cigarettes and fill up their drinks..wow !!! Amazing stuff this. LOL..
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
I did read Emily's post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: You have the strangest compulsions, Susan. Read Emily's post which came before this one. Answer that. You're a funny lady. But you're right: 90% does it. I feel this right in my bones. Casey hit a home run. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe.  No worries.  I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:  OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going, Curtis. Robin ---
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe.  No worries.  I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. JESUS. Poor Susan! Maybe she should give a course in selective reading. Nothing selective about my reading on this. I read the posts. I just don't side with you, which is a very different thing than selective reading. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:  OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going, Curtis. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Robin, not sure why, but I enjoyed what you wrote below. And i take it as positive about Buck. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: Buck up, Buck. Milk those cows. Love the ladies. Pick the four-leaf clovers. Race your Ferrari. Kiss those beautiful black swans. Dive off those Acapulco cliffs. Write those sonnets of beautiful despair. Life us up with your blue wings. Scare us on Halloween with your wit. You are the Veda dancing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe.  No worries.  It's true, may be you all could move this thread off-line between yous now. Like, what's between you keep between you and spare the neighborhood. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:  OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going,
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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Susan waybac...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) Â It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe. Â No worries. Â I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. OMG Susan you are absolutely clueless, it's as if English is not your first language, OMG it's just mind blowing, I can never believe the crap you post every single time - you and Steve are such a disgrace here of course along with Curtis and Barry. I often wonder if ignorance(Steve, Susan) or deception(Curtis, Barry) is the worst - you know what I can't decide.
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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Susan waybac...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) Â It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe. Â No worries. Â I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. OMG Susan you are absolutely clueless, it's as if English is not your first language, OMG it's just mind blowing, I can never believe the crap you post every single time - you and Steve are such a disgrace here of course along with Curtis and Barry. I often wonder if ignorance(Steve, Susan) or deception(Curtis, Barry) is the worst - you know what I can't decide. Let's call it a spectrum, the ID Spectrum - Ignorance, deception spectrum = deceiving is ignorance and ignorance is deception. Sickening and pitiful regardless.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe.  No worries.  I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:  OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going, Curtis. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: You just don't get it Robin. No one likes to be mispresented, or impersonated. I think it 's pretty simple. No, YOU
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) Â It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe. Â No worries. Â I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. JESUS. Poor Susan! Maybe she should give a course in selective reading. Nothing selective about my reading on this. I read the posts. I just don't side with you, which is a very different thing than selective reading. Selective understanding, then. Has nothing to do with whether you side with *me*. I'd tell you to read Emily's first post again, but I doubt it'll do any good.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Don't you start now Emily. Curtis. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe. No worries. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going, Curtis. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: You just don't get it Robin. No one likes to be mispresented, or impersonated. I think it 's pretty simple. No, YOU don't get it, Steve. That isn't the issue. Curtis is within his rights to ask Robin to stop. Curtis is not within his rights (ethically, at any rate) to claim Robin has misrepresented the kind of thing he might say about Robin. Really? So I have threatened Robin that his days on FFL are numbered? That I will humble him? I have to make a case for how he misrepresented me to get him to stop? You don't get the issue Judy. You are following Robin's lead to coerce me into going point by point to refute his
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
OK, this has got to be the line of the week, if not the century: Robin: A very weak ending, Curtis. Hamlet died, don't you remember? He didn't walk off and throw a cucumber at Laertes: and say: You're just a punk, Laertes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Curtis: So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. Robin: You would say and have said much worse, Curtis. I gave you a break by truthfully representing the *content* of what you would say (everyone knows I got it right in principle, in theme, in essence) but giving it some Robin lightness--just so no one would miss the necessary gag. Curtis: You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. Robin: No, Curtis. You are a deceiver and a coward: I feel great pity for you that you will never put yourself out there to find out what it feels *when you rely only on the truth and your own felt sense of innocence*--then reality, even if we don't know this, comes to our rescue. You always *go it alone*, sealed up in your violent pride which brooks no opposition. I have resisted you, Curtis--in a number of ways: I am waiting for you to defend yourself on reasonable and legitimate terms. You keep being an intellectual terrorist. I have no friends that pile on here, Curtis: they could all hate me and the truth about you would be the same. Your friends don't call you on your shit; if I have any friends here, I know they would not let me bullshit without telling me. Curtis: I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. Robin: Well, then, the Hopkins poem would have been incongruous wouldn't it. As it was *The Caged Skylark* became the ultimate commentary on what is going on here. Think about that, Curtis: for *anything you say here to be true* would mean that I was upstaging myself and refuting myself and mocking myself--because Hopkins's poem would show this. Curtis: If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. Robin: A very weak ending, Curtis. Hamlet died, don't you remember? He didn't walk off and throw a cucumber at Laertes: and say: You're just a punk, Laertes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU. Let's keep it going, Curtis. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: You just don't get it Robin. No one likes to be mispresented, or impersonated. I think it 's pretty simple. No, YOU don't get it, Steve. That isn't the issue. Curtis is within his rights to ask Robin to stop. Curtis is not within his rights (ethically, at any rate) to claim Robin has misrepresented the kind of thing he might say about Robin. Really? So I have threatened Robin that his days on FFL are numbered? That I will humble him? I have to make a case for how he misrepresented me to get him to stop? You don't get the issue Judy. You are following Robin's lead to coerce me into going point by point to refute his made-up bullshit. As if that is the main point of why it might not be cool to make
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Emily, we have only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what lies within. And the 'within' that I refer to is you. You are a deep, deep well lady and don't you forget it. Really smart too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dear Curtis.  Thank you for asking for a re-post of this.  I missed it as well.  Objectively, without parsing the details, this is a brilliant piece of work. Robin has managed, somehow, to capture almost perfectly his own MO from your perspective and others' actually, although perhaps not exclusively, as you note.  How many people are able to represent so accurately another's viewpoint of themselves - he must have tried on the Reality of it all, dontcha think...maybe just one shoe? You must admit you have made these key points on many occasions, albeit using different words: * Look, Robin, I think you are a good guy, very sincere and all that; but you have one fatal flaw: you seek to judge the motivations of other persons, and not only do you fumble and stumble around (it is actually quite embarrassing, Robin), but you actually miss hitting the truth of the person altogether. * You can intuit all you like, Robin, but the act of judging what someone says by what you believe to be their inner faults, this is not only inappropriate and offensive--it is the most unreliable form of truth there could ever be. But beyond this, Robin, it is violation of the code of human relationships. You have just gone one step too far here, Robin, in your rather pathetic and unconvincing analysis of irony. And I don't appreciate your bringing me into your little dance of self-congratulations. * I would just ask you one more time, Robin: Deal with me on the basis of what I write. You see, Robin, you can't act as if you are the knower of what my motives are, my character. *  Robin, can't see how you are acting out a little ritual here which has become so familiar to most of us that at this point it just seems like a cheap Vegas act--where the audience dwindles every night. Now, this last oneyour analogies are more creative, but the spirit is captured.  Curtis, you have the skill set to reply in-kind, should you so choose. If I were you, I wouldn't waste my time responding to Robin's request to show him what about his post *wasn't* an accurate reflection of your position. Sounds like you might be finished for the day though; it was a helluva show and thank you for your participation.  It might have been annoying as hell from your seat, but from mine, it was insanely funny.  But, just so you know, I am *not* laughing at your expense.  I thank you for letting Robin get under your skin a bit.  It was good for me Curtis, I hope it was good for you too.  From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 3:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! Dear Robin: I think, Robin, you are way out of line here. As a matter of fact *I never even read your post*. But now having read it, I can tell you: *It doesn't make it, Robin*, and your confident assertions about your use of irony in relation to me is itself a form of irony. Because--listen up, Robin--you don't 'get' me at all, and the words you put in my mouth there were a misrepresentation of what I might have said to you. Look, Robin, I think you are a good guy, very sincere and all that; but you have one fatal flaw: you seek to judge the motivations of other persons, and not only do you fumble and stumble around (it is actually quite embarrassing, Robin), but you actually miss hitting the truth of the person altogether. You can intuit all you like, Robin, but the act of judging what someone says by what you believe to be their inner faults, this is not only inappropriate and offensive--it is the most unreliable form of truth there could ever be. But beyond this, Robin, it is violation of the code of human relationships. You have just gone one step too far here, Robin, in your rather pathetic and unconvincing analysis of irony. And I don't appreciate your bringing me into your little dance of self-congratulations. I would just ask you one more time, Robin: Deal with me on the basis of what I write; don't pry into my soul, because--you must surely know this by now, Robin--you are engaged in an activity which makes it obvious why you blew up with your enlightenment trip: You see, Robin, you can't act as if you are the knower of what my motives are, my character. And the longer you persist in doing this, the more you are headed for a fall. I don't want to see you lose it, Robin. You are a kind of fanatic. And sooner or later you will get it through your brain and heart: I am going to resist
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Sorry, I had to step outside for a smoke after that scene. Susan picked up on my very real appreciation for Curtis. Let me tell you, if Robin pulls a number like this on me, I will post a picture of my incredibly adorable terrier, and metaphorically roll over and ask him to rub my stomach. From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe.  No worries.  I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:  OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU. It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
LOL.. P.S I didn't know you smoked - imagine this, you, I and Judy (if she consented to smoke one again) smoking..what fun..LOL On Sep 10, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry, I had to step outside for a smoke after that scene. Susan picked up on my very real appreciation for Curtis. Let me tell you, if Robin pulls a number like this on me, I will post a picture of my incredibly adorable terrier, and metaphorically roll over and ask him to rub my stomach. From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe.  No worries.  I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:  OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED. Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out from the whole seem to suggest Robin was
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pundits' Union formed in Fairfield, Iowa
Dear Buck, sinful heathen that I am, I'll have you know I am now praying for world peace. Who knows, perhaps next month, I will be meditating for world peace. It's the Maharishi Effect in action. You won't see me in the Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge though, it's either too hot or too cold in Iowa. I like the dark, damp, rainy weather along a rocky coast. Emily. From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pundits' Union formed in Fairfield, Iowa Om Jeez, did you see this trash posted here earlier today as creativity? Dear FFL Moderators, as an experienced and old conservative meditator here I'm concerned for the integrity of our FFL with Yahoo-groups over this kind of Obscenity being posted here. These people. They are doing it again bringing and posting smut here. Spiritually I am completely offended by this kind of smut-peddling being posted here by these people. They are using our list's open-ness against us for their own prurient interests. It is needlessly inflammatory, extremely low-brow and completely discouraging to any civil discourse of the community. Moderators, you simply must be more pro-active in protecting the spiritual integrity of our FFL forum.. Do your duty and do something. Be forthright and bold about these nattering nabobs of negativity posting this trash on our list. Their coming to FFL mostly as immigrants with little stake we have now more than our share of them. Nattering nabobs of negativism they have formed their own 4-H Club -- the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history. Un-repentant they have nothing of spiritual worth to offer here. Not just shunned, they should not allowed to post on FFL. Kindly, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [Explicative text Deleted]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Ravi: The smoking reference was in reference to the video - check the video. Sorry, I'll settle down, promiseas soon as I pour myself a scotch. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! LOL.. P.S I didn't know you smoked - imagine this, you, I and Judy (if she consented to smoke one again) smoking..what fun..LOL On Sep 10, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry, I had to step outside for a smoke after that scene. Susan picked up on my very real appreciation for Curtis. Let me tell you, if Robin pulls a number like this on me, I will post a picture of my incredibly adorable terrier, and metaphorically roll over and ask him to rub my stomach. From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe.  No worries.  I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:  OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental response to Robin Carlsen--inside
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Thanks Dear Em - its all good. I don't care now, I had so much fun today. XOXO On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Ravi: The smoking reference was in reference to the video - check the video. Sorry, I'll settle down, promiseas soon as I pour myself a scotch. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! LOL.. P.S I didn't know you smoked - imagine this, you, I and Judy (if she consented to smoke one again) smoking..what fun..LOL On Sep 10, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry, I had to step outside for a smoke after that scene. Susan picked up on my very real appreciation for Curtis. Let me tell you, if Robin pulls a number like this on me, I will post a picture of my incredibly adorable terrier, and metaphorically roll over and ask him to rub my stomach. From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your reputation is safe.  No worries.  I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative, odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did, about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1% are the ones making the fuss, the noise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well. You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry wolf strategy of your online reputation is getting stale, barn yard stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list. You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you - your old boy, mid-western clique. Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:  OK so I get the formula. I say something that isn't what I would say and you dance around why you said them. So it is all good for you even though I would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after all, myself. You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got some troll friends to pile on. And for them perhaps your post was just perfect. Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV. I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin. Same intention. You are as spiteful as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense. I hope you are sitting smug in your trollness. Is smells like a barnyard to me. If you wanted to send me up without being an asshole there were many ways to do it. Your choosing this way is most telling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pundits' Union formed in Fairfield, Iowa
Dear Emily - sinful heathen - that sounds dirty doesn't it..LOL...nothing beats Southern California dear, I'm sold and you know I stayed in Seattle for 6 years. You know what I was in Seattle for a few days in June and I completely forgot about you. Oh well. Love, Ravi On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Buck, sinful heathen that I am, I'll have you know I am now praying for world peace. Who knows, perhaps next month, I will be meditating for world peace. It's the Maharishi Effect in action. You won't see me in the Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge though, it's either too hot or too cold in Iowa. I like the dark, damp, rainy weather along a rocky coast. Emily. From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pundits' Union formed in Fairfield, Iowa Om Jeez, did you see this trash posted here earlier today as creativity? Dear FFL Moderators, as an experienced and old conservative meditator here I'm concerned for the integrity of our FFL with Yahoo-groups over this kind of Obscenity being posted here. These people. They are doing it again bringing and posting smut here. Spiritually I am completely offended by this kind of smut-peddling being posted here by these people. They are using our list's open-ness against us for their own prurient interests. It is needlessly inflammatory, extremely low-brow and completely discouraging to any civil discourse of the community. Moderators, you simply must be more pro-active in protecting the spiritual integrity of our FFL forum.. Do your duty and do something. Be forthright and bold about these nattering nabobs of negativity posting this trash on our list. Their coming to FFL mostly as immigrants with little stake we have now more than our share of them. Nattering nabobs of negativism they have formed their own 4-H Club -- the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history. Un-repentant they have nothing of spiritual worth to offer here. Not just shunned, they should not allowed to post on FFL. Kindly, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [Explicative text Deleted]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Ann, I'm blushing. Just trying to run a brush through my multi-layered, multi-textured, multi-million dollar (oh, wait, not that) hairdo. You are the sweetest whipyerass I know. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! Emily, we have only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what lies within. And the 'within' that I refer to is you. You are a deep, deep well lady and don't you forget it. Really smart too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dear Curtis.  Thank you for asking for a re-post of this.  I missed it as well.  Objectively, without parsing the details, this is a brilliant piece of work. Robin has managed, somehow, to capture almost perfectly his own MO from your perspective and others' actually, although perhaps not exclusively, as you note.  How many people are able to represent so accurately another's viewpoint of themselves - he must have tried on the Reality of it all, dontcha think...maybe just one shoe? You must admit you have made these key points on many occasions, albeit using different words: * Look, Robin, I think you are a good guy, very sincere and all that; but you have one fatal flaw: you seek to judge the motivations of other persons, and not only do you fumble and stumble around (it is actually quite embarrassing, Robin), but you actually miss hitting the truth of the person altogether. * You can intuit all you like, Robin, but the act of judging what someone says by what you believe to be their inner faults, this is not only inappropriate and offensive--it is the most unreliable form of truth there could ever be. But beyond this, Robin, it is violation of the code of human relationships. You have just gone one step too far here, Robin, in your rather pathetic and unconvincing analysis of irony. And I don't appreciate your bringing me into your little dance of self-congratulations. * I would just ask you one more time, Robin: Deal with me on the basis of what I write. You see, Robin, you can't act as if you are the knower of what my motives are, my character. *  Robin, can't see how you are acting out a little ritual here which has become so familiar to most of us that at this point it just seems like a cheap Vegas act--where the audience dwindles every night. Now, this last oneyour analogies are more creative, but the spirit is captured.  Curtis, you have the skill set to reply in-kind, should you so choose. If I were you, I wouldn't waste my time responding to Robin's request to show him what about his post *wasn't* an accurate reflection of your position. Sounds like you might be finished for the day though; it was a helluva show and thank you for your participation.  It might have been annoying as hell from your seat, but from mine, it was insanely funny.  But, just so you know, I am *not* laughing at your expense.  I thank you for letting Robin get under your skin a bit.  It was good for me Curtis, I hope it was good for you too.  From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 3:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! Dear Robin: I think, Robin, you are way out of line here. As a matter of fact *I never even read your post*. But now having read it, I can tell you: *It doesn't make it, Robin*, and your confident assertions about your use of irony in relation to me is itself a form of irony. Because--listen up, Robin--you don't 'get' me at all, and the words you put in my mouth there were a misrepresentation of what I might have said to you. Look, Robin, I think you are a good guy, very sincere and all that; but you have one fatal flaw: you seek to judge the motivations of other persons, and not only do you fumble and stumble around (it is actually quite embarrassing, Robin), but you actually miss hitting the truth of the person altogether. You can intuit all you like, Robin, but the act of judging what someone says by what you believe to be their inner faults, this is not only inappropriate and offensive--it is the most unreliable form of truth there could ever be. But beyond this, Robin, it is violation of the code of human relationships. You have just gone one step too far here, Robin, in your rather pathetic and unconvincing analysis of irony. And I don't appreciate your bringing me into your little dance of self-congratulations. I would just ask you one more time, Robin: Deal with me on the basis of what I write; don't pry into my soul, because--you must surely know this by now, Robin--you are
[FairfieldLife] Apologies from Robin and Judy
Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the bottom line on all this insanity should be given to the two people causing most of it: APOLOGY FROM ROBIN: Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just having a bad night, after realizing the truth about myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing all this just got me down, that's all, so I made up some shit about you. Sorry. - Robin W. Carlsen APOLOGY FROM JUDY: Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I'm a bat shit crazy old woman with nothing going on in my life and it really, really, really gets my panties in a twist to see anyone liking or supporting anyone I've spent years telling them that they shouldn't like. When that happens I see red and go a little crazier than usual, because it reminds me what an *ineffectual* crazy person I am. All these years, working with an audience not nearly as smart as I am, and I *still* couldn't make them hate the people I wanted them to hate. Realizing all this just got me down, that's all, so I needed to go a little more bat shit crazy than usual. - Judy Stein --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Judy, you do leave me speechless. Almost. It is at this point I reflect on the last Narnia book, The Last Battle, when the ape Shift turns the truth upside down. And succeeds in doing so for a while. I guess that's a difference between that book and FFL. I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment. I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy. That could happen you know. ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's proceedings where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your warning to Authfriend both timely and even portentous. I would ask you, Authfriend, to be careful at this point. Curtis and I understand each other. I don't know you at all. And sometimes I think you act as if you know me much better than you do. Do you understand this, Authfriend? F*ck off, Zebra Baby. I don't give a crap about you and your Issues; I'm after Curtis here. Don't get in the way, OK? I know you better than I need to. You will thank Steve someday for his rebuke here. But funny thing is: the more I write into you, the more I like you! Yeah, yeah, very funny. Take your levers and hooks and grappling irons and go after somebody who hasn't made it all the way around the block even once yet. Write into you, is that Canada-speak? Hey, I'll tell you where you can write into, mister. But that doesn't change the wisdom of Steve's admonition, as surely you must know, Authfriend. Nothing can ever change Steve's wisdom, I agree with you there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy
Do I really have to ask you not to do this very douchey thing, Barry, really? OK then I'll ask. Please don't sign my full name at the bottom of straw men versions of my POV out of respect for the fact that most of us just skim posts within our otherwise busy days and it is hard enough to keep track without this in the mix. There were many statements in what you write here, Barry, that I wouldn't want anyone to think I had generated. If you want to play fast and lose with accuracy and just assume other people will keep up, please do it at your expense in the future,not mine. This shit we put up on the Internet is FOREVER. It carries some responsibilities. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the bottom line on all this insanity should be given to the two people causing most of it: APOLOGY FROM ROBIN: Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just having a bad night, after realizing the truth about myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing all this just got me down, that's all, so I made up some shit about you. Sorry. - Robin W. Carlsen --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Judy, you do leave me speechless. Almost. It is at this point I reflect on the last Narnia book, The Last Battle, when the ape Shift turns the truth upside down. And succeeds in doing so for a while. I guess that's a difference between that book and FFL. I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment. I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy. That could happen you know. ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's proceedings where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your warning to Authfriend both timely and even portentous. I would ask you, Authfriend, to be careful at this point. Curtis and I understand each other. I don't know you at all. And sometimes I think you act as if you know me much better than you do. Do you understand this, Authfriend? F*ck off, Zebra Baby. I don't give a crap about you and your Issues; I'm after Curtis here. Don't get in the way, OK? I know you better than I need to. You will thank Steve someday for his rebuke here. But funny thing is: the more I write into you, the more I like you! Yeah, yeah, very funny. Take your levers and hooks and grappling irons and go after somebody who hasn't made it all the way around the block even once yet. Write into you, is that Canada-speak? Hey, I'll tell you where you can write into, mister. But that doesn't change the wisdom of Steve's admonition, as surely you must know, Authfriend. Nothing can ever change Steve's wisdom, I agree with you there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy
Dear Barry, I rescind my judgment here, as I realized you eschewed any irony. My Curtis posts were charged with irony. You have obviously mortified that temptation--and I feel certain Susan will sense the virtue of this. Why not try irony next time, though? I am sure it would be salutary for me. Robin P.S. At least Steve won't be offended by this. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra maskedzebra@... wrote: Do I really have to ask you not to do this very douchey thing, Barry, really? OK then I'll ask. Please don't sign my full name at the bottom of straw men versions of my POV out of respect for the fact that most of us just skim posts within our otherwise busy days and it is hard enough to keep track without this in the mix. There were many statements in what you write here, Barry, that I wouldn't want anyone to think I had generated. If you want to play fast and lose with accuracy and just assume other people will keep up, please do it at your expense in the future,not mine. This shit we put up on the Internet is FOREVER. It carries some responsibilities. Robin W. Carlsen --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the bottom line on all this insanity should be given to the two people causing most of it: APOLOGY FROM ROBIN: Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just having a bad night, after realizing the truth about myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing all this just got me down, that's all, so I made up some shit about you. Sorry. - Robin W. Carlsen --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Judy, you do leave me speechless. Almost. It is at this point I reflect on the last Narnia book, The Last Battle, when the ape Shift turns the truth upside down. And succeeds in doing so for a while. I guess that's a difference between that book and FFL. I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment. I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy. That could happen you know. ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's proceedings where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your warning to Authfriend both timely and even portentous. I would ask you, Authfriend, to be careful at this point. Curtis and I understand each other. I don't know you at all. And sometimes I think you act as if you know me much better than you do. Do you understand this, Authfriend? F*ck off, Zebra Baby. I don't give a crap about you and your Issues; I'm after Curtis here. Don't get in the way, OK? I know you better than I need to. You will thank Steve someday for his rebuke here. But funny thing is: the more I write into you, the more I like you! Yeah, yeah, very funny. Take your levers and hooks and grappling irons and go after somebody who hasn't made it all the way around the block even once yet. Write into you, is that Canada-speak? Hey, I'll tell you where you can write into, mister. But that doesn't change the wisdom of Steve's admonition, as surely you must know, Authfriend. Nothing can ever change Steve's wisdom, I agree with you there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy
Dear Curtis. Thank you for asking for a re-post of this. I missed it as well. Objectively, without parsing the details, this is a brilliant piece of work. Robin has managed, somehow, to capture almost perfectly his own MO from your perspective and others' actually, although perhaps not exclusively, as you note. How many people are able to represent so accurately another's viewpoint of themselves - he must have tried on the Reality of it all, dontcha think...maybe just one shoe? You must admit you have made these key points on many occasions, albeit using different words: Look, Robin, I think you are a good guy, very sincere and all that; but you have one fatal flaw: you seek to judge the motivations of other persons, and not only do you fumble and stumble around (it is actually quite embarrassing, Robin), but you actually miss hitting the truth of the person altogether. You can intuit all you like, Robin, but the act of judging what someone says by what you believe to be their inner faults, this is not only inappropriate and offensive--it is the most unreliable form of truth there could ever be. But beyond this, Robin, it is violation of the code of human relationships. You have just gone one step too far here, Robin, in your rather pathetic and unconvincing analysis of irony. And I don't appreciate your bringing me into your little dance of self-congratulations. I would just ask you one more time, Robin: Deal with me on the basis of what I write. You see, Robin, you can't act as if you are the knower of what my motives are, my character. Robin, can't see how you are acting out a little ritual here which has become so familiar to most of us that at this point it just seems like a cheap Vegas act--where the audience dwindles every night. Now, this last oneyour analogies are more creative, but the spirit is captured. Curtis, you have the skill set to reply in-kind, should you so choose. If I were you, I wouldn't waste my time responding to Robin's request to show him what about his post *wasn't* an accurate reflection of your position. Sounds like you might be finished for the day though; it was a helluva show and thank you for your participation. It might have been annoying as hell from your seat, but from mine, it was insanely funny. But, just so you know, I am *not* laughing at your expense. I thank you for letting Robin get under your skin a bit. It was good for me Curtis, I hope it was good for you too. Emily --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the bottom line on all this insanity should be given to the two people causing most of it: APOLOGY FROM ROBIN: Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just having a bad night, after realizing the truth about myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing all this just got me down, that's all, so I made up some shit about you. Sorry. - Robin W. Carlsen --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Judy, you do leave me speechless. Almost. It is at this point I reflect on the last Narnia book, The Last Battle, when the ape Shift turns the truth upside down. And succeeds in doing so for a while. I guess that's a difference between that book and FFL. I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment. I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy. That could happen you know. ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's proceedings where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your warning to Authfriend both timely and even portentous. I would ask you, Authfriend, to be careful at this point. Curtis and I understand each other. I don't know you at all. And sometimes I think you act as if you know me much better than you do. Do you understand this, Authfriend? F*ck off, Zebra Baby. I don't give a crap about you and your Issues; I'm after Curtis here. Don't get in the way, OK? I know you better than I need to. You will thank Steve someday for his rebuke here. But funny thing is: the more I write into you, the more I like you! Yeah, yeah, very funny. Take your levers and hooks and grappling irons and go after somebody who hasn't made it all the way
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy
http://tinyurl.com/9vxpwtr --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the bottom line on all this insanity should be given to the two people causing most of it: APOLOGY FROM ROBIN: Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just having a bad night, after realizing the truth about myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing all this just got me down, that's all, so I made up some shit about you. Sorry. - Robin W. Carlsen APOLOGY FROM JUDY: Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I'm a bat shit crazy old woman with nothing going on in my life and it really, really, really gets my panties in a twist to see anyone liking or supporting anyone I've spent years telling them that they shouldn't like. When that happens I see red and go a little crazier than usual, because it reminds me what an *ineffectual* crazy person I am. All these years, working with an audience not nearly as smart as I am, and I *still* couldn't make them hate the people I wanted them to hate. Realizing all this just got me down, that's all, so I needed to go a little more bat shit crazy than usual. - Judy Stein --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Judy, you do leave me speechless. Almost. It is at this point I reflect on the last Narnia book, The Last Battle, when the ape Shift turns the truth upside down. And succeeds in doing so for a while. I guess that's a difference between that book and FFL. I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment. I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy. That could happen you know. ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's proceedings where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your warning to Authfriend both timely and even portentous. I would ask you, Authfriend, to be careful at this point. Curtis and I understand each other. I don't know you at all. And sometimes I think you act as if you know me much better than you do. Do you understand this, Authfriend? F*ck off, Zebra Baby. I don't give a crap about you and your Issues; I'm after Curtis here. Don't get in the way, OK? I know you better than I need to. You will thank Steve someday for his rebuke here. But funny thing is: the more I write into you, the more I like you! Yeah, yeah, very funny. Take your levers and hooks and grappling irons and go after somebody who hasn't made it all the way around the block even once yet. Write into you, is that Canada-speak? Hey, I'll tell you where you can write into, mister. But that doesn't change the wisdom of Steve's admonition, as surely you must know, Authfriend. Nothing can ever change Steve's wisdom, I agree with you there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Snip As for what my feelings were, I didn't suffer or feel insulted. Nor did I think you were being hurtful or cruel. I simply did not want to pursue the theme of whether or not I was being the real me. Nor the theme of my alleged hyper positivity. We've been down those rabbit holes plenty. Snip In a very kind way you hit the nail on the head here Share. Except that she isn't being truthful. She told Robin she was going to suspend communications, not that she didn't want to pursue a particular theme. Their conversations had covered many different themes. So her claim here that she didn't feel insulted or think Robin was being hurtful doesn't ring true either. Maybe she wasn't and didn't, but what she said certainly sounded as though she wanted him--and us--to think she was and did. If Robin gets it, it might assist in my own communication issues I expressed in our last exchange. Adults don't take kindly to having people presume to negotiate the relationship we have with ourselves. That's one of those statements that sounds profound but sort of dissolves into nothing when you look at it closely. It certainly had nothing to do with Robin's exchange with Share. There's something quite peculiar about this whole sequence of events. Robin was describing *his experience* of something Share had said. When she seemed to have been offended by what he had written--this was *before* her suspend communications post--he explained his experience further, pointed out that he hadn't been attempting to influence Share to talk to him in any particular way, and ended up dismissing his own comments about his experience and simply complimenting her on her post. She had already said she was feeling grumpy because of having eaten sugar the day before and had apologized for taking it out on him. So after he'd offered his explanation, the whole issue appeared to have been resolved. But two days later, in a new post to Robin, she announced she was going to suspend communications because of what she had grossly misconstrued to be his assessment of her--this being the same comment she'd initially been grumpy about and that he had explained and dismissed. It's almost as if somebody got to her in the interim and convinced her to go back and make a big deal of what Robin had said. If so, unfortunately the coaching didn't keep her from making a ghastly mess of what it had inspired. Young people are learning their boundaries. When a Maharishi told us back in the day the knowledge was structured in consciousness and with a wink wink jiu jitsu created the assumption that he was going to assume a dominant relationship with us, it felt OK because he was older than I was and that was how I had deferred to older people my whole childhood. So I think her reaction was appropriate for a self realized adult. She wasn't interested in having you assume this position with her. A position Robin had not assumed in the first place. If any deferring was taking place, it was Robin deferring to Share. (Notice that Curtis has suddenly decided he's speaking to Robin rather than Share. Then he goes back to addressing Share. A little confusion there, I guess.) Now I can also understand why Robin was so surprised. He only started to put in the lever and hadn't applied any pressure yet, but he got called out immediately. Yeah, this is where the coaching must have come in. I don't think any of this hostile, dishonest anti-Robin crap would have occurred to Share on her own, especially after Robin had withdrawn the original remarks and Share had apologized for being grumpy about them. It's no wonder he was astonished. Called out immediately: Obviously Curtis hadn't read their previous conversations, and he hasn't been paying careful enough attention even to what he quoted from Share's post. Oopsie! I'll bet Robin isn't astonished now, though, because we can see where it was all leading: to the malicious attribution to Robin of an invented agenda that serves someone else's purposes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I don't think encouraging discord was my goal or what Robin got from what I wrote, judging by his response. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! gasp Dear heaven, what a hoot. Yeah same old, same old, His Holiness of the 7-layered deception, progressively cruder, baser, grosser - master of strategy # 1 - change the context through deception, manipulation and strategy #2 - cry wolf, slander others - continues along his shameless, clueless, needy, whiny, drama queenery. In this case, he's the victim of his own assumptions.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-submitting question to Robin
Not to me, and potentially (depending on how he feels about it) not to Robin. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: My point should be obvious, but if it's not, so be it. Your point is obvious BUT IRRELEVANT. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Robin, if you answered this question, I didn't see it, sorry: Have you practiced TM lately and/or have you been checked lately? It's been awhile, Lawson. I'm just curious as to what happens if you do. Probably start to feel really really good. Dunno. Someone who transits into full enlightenment via their last meditation, doesn't notice any changes at all, is my understanding, so really really good isn't necessarily an outcome from meditating, even if (especially if?) it is successful. Lawson, you're making an ass of yourself because you haven't bothered to become familiar with Robin's history. Nothing you say is at all relevant. And you also need an irony tune-up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greedy teachers in Chicago demand raise.
This is rich, they're striking for better schools, nyuk. What a charade. (Gotta love those public sector Unions, mostly democrats BTW). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: The average teacher in Chicago Public Schools -- a district facing a $700 million deficit -- makes $71,000 per year before benefits are included. If the district meets union demands and rewards teachers with the requested salary increase, education employees will receive compensation north of $92,000 per year. According to the Illinois Policy Institute, the average annual income of a family in Chicago is $47,000 per year. If implemented, the 30 percent raise will mean that in nine months, a single teacher in the Chicago Public School system will take home nearly double what the average family in the city earns in a year. http://www.drudge.com/news/160789/chicago-teachers-strike-monday-pay
[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal
More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the U.S. has been raised. The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new Pandits has been completed, and the next phase is well underway. 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa applications. We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we can hold our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may cherish such thoughts and such ideals, and dream such dreams of lofty purpose, that we can determine and know what manner of human we will be whenever and wherever the hour strikes, that calls to noble action. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to finally achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance numbers of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was initiated to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the Pandit campus facilities to accommodate them. The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring and heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have received $350,000 since the campaign began last montha huge accomplishment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation
Sept. 11th, Paradigms how do we make meaning of experience? Brain and Consciousness. Are we primarily matter, or are we primarily consciousness? Is the body a machine that creates conscious experience, or is conscious experience the result of the interaction of a field of consciousness with brain functioning? This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; identifies paradigms governing research into this area; and compares the understanding of mind, consciousness and the body in modern science and Maharishi Vedic Science. Recent research during TM practice is reviewed in detail. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Turqb, Good parody of the state of Meditation PR campaigning. I'd be interested to know how the science guys of the two different camps of meditation research (TM vs. everyone else) would describe what the other guys have to say about their own research on meditation and cultivating spirituality. Do the two 'camps' ever end up on the same panel discussions discussing meditation research? TM'ers seem to argue aggressively to nobody but themselves that TM is the 'best and only'. Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people seems to show that while a few people did start TM they are doing a lot of other spiritual things as they enlighten. http://batgap.com/ Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, for so creatively bringing this moment of popular culture in to view, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along as a preface to this short one-act play: Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who trolls Reddit and a Seventh Day Adventist? A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door. That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the general direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to continue liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himself. Knock knock. UNSUSPECTING CITIZEN (UCer): [opening door] Hello. Can I help you? TRESPASSING MEAN-WELL-ER (TMer): I'm here to help YOU. I've come to stand here at your front door and make provocative statements to lure you into an argument so that I can convince you of the benefits of TM. UCer: Thanks anyway, but I'm not interested. [starts to close door] TMer: WAIT! Are you slamming the door in my face because you practice some spit lesser form of meditation or spiritual practice? UCer: What I practice or don't practice is my business, and none of yours. Goodbye. [continues closing door] TMer: [sticking his foot in the door like a vaccum cleaner salesmen out of 1950s TV sitcoms] But WAIT! *Whatever* it is that you believe or practice, TM is better. [gestures to little red wagon he's pulling behind him full of what appear to be research papers and studies] UCer: I don't CARE whether you think TM is better than whatever I believe in or practice. I'm just not interested in what you're selling. TMer: Aha! So you *deny* that TM is better than what you practice now? Here, I'll prove it to you that TM promotes creativity better, and makes one more successful, and more happy. [starts rummaging through the papers in the little red wagon] I've got a study right here that'll prove it. UCer: You really won't give up, will you? I've told you that I have no interest in TM, and even less in arguing with you. WHY are you continuing to try to get me to do so? TMer: For your own good, dummy. You simply won't ever be as creative and as successful and as happy as you could be unless you admit that TM is the best possible way to achieve these things, and start practicing it yourself. UCer: So you're saying that you practice this TM stuff? TMer: [proudly] I sure do. I haven't missed a meditation in over thirty years now. UCer: So by now, if what you're saying is true, you must be pretty creative. What have you got in your little red wagon that you yourself created that you can show me? TMer: Uh...uh...wait just a minute. I've got a paper here that reports on research done at the University of Whatever that proves conclu... UCer: Hold on...I asked for an example of YOUR creativity. Haven't you got anything to show me. TMer: Uh...not with me. UCer: OK, let's talk success, since you claim that TM makes one more successful. You must be pretty successful yourself, to be knocking on my door in the middle of a workday. Tell me a little about how TM has made YOU so successful. TMer: Uh...well...I'm between jobs right now. UCer: And the happiness thing?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation
Sept. 13th, Brain Development: How Nature and Nurture Create our Brain. Sept. 11th, Paradigms how do we make meaning of experience? Brain and Consciousness. Are we primarily matter, or are we primarily consciousness? Is the body a machine that creates conscious experience, or is conscious experience the result of the interaction of a field of consciousness with brain functioning? This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; identifies paradigms governing research into this area; and compares the understanding of mind, consciousness and the body in modern science and Maharishi Vedic Science. Recent research during TM practice is reviewed in detail. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Turqb, Good parody of the state of Meditation PR campaigning. I'd be interested to know how the science guys of the two different camps of meditation research (TM vs. everyone else) would describe what the other guys have to say about their own research on meditation and cultivating spirituality. Do the two 'camps' ever end up on the same panel discussions discussing meditation research? TM'ers seem to argue aggressively to nobody but themselves that TM is the 'best and only'. Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people seems to show that while a few people did start TM they are doing a lot of other spiritual things as they enlighten. http://batgap.com/ Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, for so creatively bringing this moment of popular culture in to view, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along as a preface to this short one-act play: Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who trolls Reddit and a Seventh Day Adventist? A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door. That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the general direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to continue liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himself. Knock knock. UNSUSPECTING CITIZEN (UCer): [opening door] Hello. Can I help you? TRESPASSING MEAN-WELL-ER (TMer): I'm here to help YOU. I've come to stand here at your front door and make provocative statements to lure you into an argument so that I can convince you of the benefits of TM. UCer: Thanks anyway, but I'm not interested. [starts to close door] TMer: WAIT! Are you slamming the door in my face because you practice some spit lesser form of meditation or spiritual practice? UCer: What I practice or don't practice is my business, and none of yours. Goodbye. [continues closing door] TMer: [sticking his foot in the door like a vaccum cleaner salesmen out of 1950s TV sitcoms] But WAIT! *Whatever* it is that you believe or practice, TM is better. [gestures to little red wagon he's pulling behind him full of what appear to be research papers and studies] UCer: I don't CARE whether you think TM is better than whatever I believe in or practice. I'm just not interested in what you're selling. TMer: Aha! So you *deny* that TM is better than what you practice now? Here, I'll prove it to you that TM promotes creativity better, and makes one more successful, and more happy. [starts rummaging through the papers in the little red wagon] I've got a study right here that'll prove it. UCer: You really won't give up, will you? I've told you that I have no interest in TM, and even less in arguing with you. WHY are you continuing to try to get me to do so? TMer: For your own good, dummy. You simply won't ever be as creative and as successful and as happy as you could be unless you admit that TM is the best possible way to achieve these things, and start practicing it yourself. UCer: So you're saying that you practice this TM stuff? TMer: [proudly] I sure do. I haven't missed a meditation in over thirty years now. UCer: So by now, if what you're saying is true, you must be pretty creative. What have you got in your little red wagon that you yourself created that you can show me? TMer: Uh...uh...wait just a minute. I've got a paper here that reports on research done at the University of Whatever that proves conclu... UCer: Hold on...I asked for an example of YOUR creativity. Haven't you got anything to show me. TMer: Uh...not with me. UCer: OK, let's talk success, since you claim that TM makes one more successful. You must be pretty successful
[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal
The purpose of the Settle Foundation grant is to help maintain a permanent group of at least 2000 Yogic Flyers in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. As you may remember, over 50 highly rigorous published scientific studies show that when a large group of people practice Yogic Flying together it has a powerful effect of harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire nation. More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the U.S. has been raised. The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new Pandits has been completed, and the next phase is well underway. 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa applications. We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we can hold our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may cherish such thoughts and such ideals, and dream such dreams of lofty purpose, that we can determine and know what manner of human we will be whenever and wherever the hour strikes, that calls to noble action. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to finally achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance numbers of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was initiated to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the Pandit campus facilities to accommodate them. The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring and heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have received $350,000 since the campaign began last montha huge accomplishment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. I mean Robin couldn't even bring himself to answer a simple straigtforward question from Curtis about levitation and miracles a few days ago. Obfuscating seems to be Robins stock in trade. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I don't think encouraging discord was my goal or what Robin got from what I wrote, judging by his response. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! gasp Dear heaven, what a hoot. __. Yeah same old, same old, His Holiness of the 7-layered deception, progressively cruder, baser, grosser - master of strategy # 1 - change the context through deception, manipulation and strategy #2 - cry wolf, slander others - continues along his shameless, clueless, needy, whiny, drama queenery.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: snip Yesterday I did discuss the whole thing with my pastoral counselor including getting her feedback on the initial exchanges between me and Robin. She's grounded, loving, funny, open minded, devoted sidha, happily married and I trust her judgement 110%. I hope you had a flow chart, bubble diagram and spread sheet!
[FairfieldLife] Pundits' Union formed in Fairfield, Iowa
[FOX News] In this exclusive phone interview from behind the barbed wire in Vedic City, Iowa (a suburb of Fairfield, and home to the Super Radiance Group of Vedic pundits who chant there daily for world peace), one of the pundits shares with us the reasons why he and his fellow pundits have felt the need to create a union. Pundit Anony Mouse, originally from Punjab Corners, India, talks to our correspondent Barbie Bimbo about their decision. BB: Anony, are you there? There seems to be some interference on the line. AM: That's the wind noise, Barbie. I'm making this call from the farthest corner of the compound, where it hopefully can't be scanned by the people monitoring our communications. There is a lot of wind out here today. BB: Oh, OK. I thought for a minute it was you breathing heavily. I get a lot of that when talking to men on the telephone. AM: You're a woman? The switchboard just put me through to the first available reporter. What do you look like? BB: Sweet of you to ask, Anony. I'm 5 foot ten, blonde hair (real, BTW), with measurements of 38-24-36. The 38 is real, too. AM: Good to know. One of the things that we pundits are supposed to do, supposedly written down by the great Indian sage Shankara, is to think of women as bags of urine and feces. Doing this is supposed to be good for our spiritual advancement, but it's been so long since I've actually seen a woman that I've forgotten what shape to make the bag of urine and feces. Do you think you could send me a photo of yourself? BB: No problem. [short pause] AM: WOW! Thanks, Barbie. If I may say so, you are one great-looking bag of urine and feces! BB: Thanks, Anony. Shall we get to it? What can you tell me about POPUP? AM: Well, Barbie, POPUP stands for Patanjali's Own Protective Union of Pundits. A number of us stuck here in the compound have chosen to form this union to protect our rights and to bring our plight to the attention of the public and the members of the TM organization. BB: Don't the members of the TM organization already know? It says here on my teleprompter that they paid to build the pleasant, resort-like facility you live in? AM: Barbie, TMers wouldn't know a Bengal tiger if one snuck up and bit them on the ass. They believe what they've been told, and they've been told that we all want to be here, and that our lives are a veritable vat of bubbling bliss. BB: Well, aren't they? AM: It depends, Barbie. If you were stuck out in the middle of gods-and-goddesses-forsaken nowhere with a bunch of other guys, trapped behind barbed wire and forced to chant meaningless and non-religious but scientific Sanskrit all day for $10.80 a month, would you call that a vat of bubbling bliss? BB: $10.80 a month doesn't sound like very much. Even I make more than that. AM: That's the amount we're given every month to spend on frivolities. Let me tell you that it isn't quite enough to cover necessities, much less anything frivolous. This past two months I've been needing a new toothbrush but unable to afford one, so I've been reduced to sharing one with one of my fellow pundits. BB: That sucks, Anony. I don't like sharing a toothbrush with anyone, not even my boyfriends who sleep over. AM: That's just the tip of the iceberg, Barbie. Most of us are here not because -- as the TMers have been told -- we are dedicated to the cause of world peace. We are here because our parents and families back in India were promised a living stipend if they sold us into indentured servitude as Vedic pundits. BB: You mean you're *not* Vedic pundits? AM: Well, that depends on your definition, I guess. Yes, we were all given an extensive, in-depth six-week training course called How To Be A Vedic Pundit 101, but that's not seen by many people in India as a suitable qualification for being an actual Vedic pundit. For the purpose of this interview, however, since we're being paid the princely sum of $10.80 a month to chant Vedic hymns to the gods and goddesses, I guess you can think of us as Vedic pundits. BB: How did the TM organization come to the figure $10.80 per month? AM: We were told that it's a Vedic thing. 108 is some kind of magical number to them. Our parents and families back home are supposedly sent an amount based on the same formula, 10,800 rupees per month. BB: Well that certainly sounds like a lot of money. You may be being paid diddleysquat, but at least you're providing for your families. AM: Barbie, 10,800 rupees is a little less than $195. BB: Oh. I get paid more than that, too. AM: Anyway, Barbie, the purpose of POPUP is to make people aware that all is not cardomon-flavored hot milk and honey here behind the barbed wire. We're being exploited. BB: So what are your demands? What do you hope to achieve by forming a union? AM: We want the one thing that is being denied to us by the TM organization -- the right to make our own decisions. They are so used to gullible TMers allowing them to dictate to them what to think and
[FairfieldLife] Re: Experience Teaching TM to Homeless Vet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would NEVER approve of that. Instead, Jai Guru Dev. In case you are not joking, why ever not ? L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: MMY's gift (and yours) to the world. Jai Maharishi! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote: Report of Remarkable Experience of Military Veteran Learning TM Before attending Governor Recertification this past summer, Naomi and I were able to give intro/prep lecture presentations at two different veteran's centers. Both were well received, and I went to Fairfield knowing we had veterans who wanted instruction in TM when we returned � and that most of them would need financial assistance to learn. It was the personal interview with the last man, C.R., at the second lecture, that really sparked my passion for this effort. When I saw that there was no address filled in on his personal interview form, I diplomatically suggested he must have overlooked this line. He barely looked up at me when he answered that he didn't have an address. He had not worked in quite some time because he could not handle pressure, and he kept having meltdowns, getting into arguments, and even violent confrontations. And that stress had carried over into his home life, where he was constantly arguing with his wife when he wasn't hiding from the world, shut up in his room. So he and his wife had separated, and he was now living in a tent � in the Everglades. I looked at this man and my heart just broke. His face was a mask of sorrow and despair, and he looked utterly shut down; his chest barely moved when he breathed. He looked as if he had lost all hope and I wanted to give him a reason to be patient, to hang in there, until I could secure the course tuition for him to be instructed. So when he asked me if I thought TM could really help him, I told him I was confident it would. Working with the David Lynch Foundation, I was able to secure scholarship money for C.R. and another vet to learn upon our return from Fairfield. When we called these men to tell them the good news, they were overjoyed and very grateful. So we set the date for their course of instruction. When C.R. arrived for his instruction he looked very worried and tense. We talked only briefly, and he again expressed hope that this would work. I looked at him at told him that he would now be starting a new chapter in his life, and began his instruction. He had a good, relaxing experience, and barely wanted to open his eyes when his time of meditation was up. I completed his initiation and gave him his going home instructions. The next day, as I was preparing the lecture hall for the arrival of our students, the door opened, and in walked C.R. � and he was smiling, beaming really. I asked him about it, and he said, Last night I slept through the night � for the first time in 21 years. That immediately got my attention. When we discussed experiences, he said he was now back in his home, and with a big smile, that his wife had said it was different when he kissed her. When I replied that we would have to do more research on that, he laughed, and said he had a question: For months, I have been seeing two psychiatrists, two social workers, a psychologist, just completed an anger management course, and been taking handfuls of medications. And in one day of doing TM I have gotten more relief than all of those other things combined. Is this normal? I answered that dramatic results are often reported, and we'll see how it goes day by day. The second day of class he mentioned that he called six friends. When I asked if that is typical for him, he told the class that he has not called anybody for months and months. He basically was staying out of sight in his room. But he wanted to reconnect with people, so he made some calls. Everyone in the class recognized how significant this change is for this man � he was now reaching out to re-establish relationships. Earlier that day, his wife had accompanied him to see one of his social workers, crying tears of gratitude for the change in her husband. (This got the attention of the social worker, who decided she also must learn TM.) Again, his experiences on his form were very positive. He clearly was practicing correctly and was noticing dramatic changes. The third day of class, he walked in smiling again and proceeded to give us a glowing report. He told everyone since he learned TM, he has been sleeping through the night, and he has had no nightmares. Many people have commented on the change in him � his wife, a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: ME I am never fighting for my life here. ANN: I know that, but it was a turn of phrase. What I really meant was when you weren't fighting for your identity, for who you believe yourself to be. ME: I might need an example to understand the intent here. When this concept has been employed from others here it was not usually the friendliest meaning. I don't have to fight for my identity or who I believe myself to be. Like everyone else here if someone seems to be misrepresenting who I am, I object. At my stage of life I am pretty careful about letting in people pointing out my flaws for my own good. It is one of the stabilizing forces of my codgerhood that appreciate compared to my youth. Your dressage description was fascinating and enlightening, big thanks! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Snip As for what my feelings were, I didn't suffer or feel insulted. Nor did I think you were being hurtful or cruel. I simply did not want to pursue the theme of whether or not I was being the real me. Nor the theme of my alleged hyper positivity. We've been down those rabbit holes plenty. Snip In a very kind way you hit the nail on the head here Share. If Robin gets it, it might assist in my own communication issues I expressed in our last exchange. Adults don't take kindly to having people presume to negotiate the relationship we have with ourselves. It feels like a boundaries violation. Oh Curtis, try and let Share figure this one out for herself. But don't we love to meddle here? Isn't that what you are doing too? Wanting to meddle is why we post, right? Meddle is a strong word. But perhaps I indeed felt you were meddling, going in where there was a place to strike and hit some mark and therefore influence the more natural outcome of affairs. Of course, I would like to think of myself as the counterpoint to the meddler (you). But don't we always like to think the best of ourselves? You know, in some ways I really believe you have it going on. You are beyond smart, really world-wise, gifted with a passion for your music and for bringing it to people for real enjoyment. I appreciate much of your writing when you aren't fighting for your life. I am never fighting for my life here. I know that, but it was a turn of phrase. What I really meant was when you weren't fighting for your identity, for who you believe yourself to be. I would love to spend an hour with you in that cafe we spoke about months ago. I truly believe we would have a lot to laugh about and to discuss. But here I sense you moving in to encourage discord and feed doubts which will only result in Share being hurt. You are not doing her any favors here. We all read these situations differently. Is that how you see it? I don't think encouraging discord was my goal or what Robin got from what I wrote, judging by his response. I think you may be blocking for a guy without the ball who isn't even running. (American football analogy) I know, I am American after all. I just happen to hold two passports and live in Ca-na-da. Young people are learning their boundaries. When a Maharishi told us back in the day the knowledge was structured in consciousness and with a wink wink jiu jitsu created the assumption that he was going to assume a dominant relationship with us, it felt OK because he was older than I was and that was how I had deferred to older people my whole childhood. So I think her reaction was appropriate for a self realized adult. She wasn't interested in having you assume this position with her. But you can only conjecture here unless she told you this privately. Aren't we often conjecturing here? It could be in the mission statement. Conjecturing yes, but I try to conjecture from a vantage point that encompasses all possibilities as they seem to appear, to present themselves. Always a bit of a shot in the dark and often not provable. More of a gut thing. Again, you need to look at how you could be using Share to further some agenda of your own. Or maybe you are using me for your own agenda. I say use on sista, we are all just talk'n here. Agenda seems like a heavier word than captures my interest in making a point to Robin that amplifies my last long ass post to him. I like the guy, I am on a positive agenda here. Really. Interesting. I am not sure what that is exactly but I would wager is
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. A glorious simpatico of ill-will. Two poisonous peas in a pod. Thanks Steve I mean Robin couldn't even bring himself to answer a simple straigtforward question from Curtis about levitation and miracles a few days ago. Obfuscating seems to be Robins stock in trade. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I don't think encouraging discord was my goal or what Robin got from what I wrote, judging by his response. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! gasp Dear heaven, what a hoot. __. Yeah same old, same old, His Holiness of the 7-layered deception, progressively cruder, baser, grosser - master of strategy # 1 - change the context through deception, manipulation and strategy #2 - cry wolf, slander others - continues along his shameless, clueless, needy, whiny, drama queenery.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. A glorious simpatico of ill-will. Two poisonous peas in a pod. Also, it should be pointed out, two people who never seem to get into the long, demanding, don't-even- THINK-of-dumping-me back-and-forth that a conversation with the person they defend so fanatically would entail. Instead, they spend their time dumping on others who have found such conversations...uh...trying, to say the least. One would think that if they consider him so wise and so spiritually advanced and all, they'd be chatting him up every chance they got.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. A glorious simpatico of ill-will. Two poisonous peas in a pod. Also, it should be pointed out, two people who never seem to get into the long, demanding, don't-even- THINK-of-dumping-me back-and-forth that a conversation with the person they defend so fanatically would entail. Instead, they spend their time dumping on others who have found such conversations...uh...trying, to say the least. One would think that if they consider him so wise and so spiritually advanced and all, they'd be chatting him up every chance they got. I have also noticed that curious fact Barry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal
When a large group of people meditate together it has a powerful effect of harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire world. I am sure you agree with me that this could not be more necessary in these turbulent times. The purpose of the Settle Foundation grant is to help maintain a permanent group of at least 2000 Yogic Flyers in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. As you may remember, over 50 highly rigorous published scientific studies show that when a large group of people practice Yogic Flying together it has a powerful effect of harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire nation. More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the U.S. has been raised. The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new Pandits has been completed, and the next phase is well underway. 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa applications. We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we can hold our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may cherish such thoughts and such ideals, and dream such dreams of lofty purpose, that we can determine and know what manner of human we will be whenever and wherever the hour strikes, that calls to noble action. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to finally achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance numbers of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was initiated to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the Pandit campus facilities to accommodate them. The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring and heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have received $350,000 since the campaign began last montha huge accomplishment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation
Sept. 25th, Sleeping and Dreaming: Why we spend 8 hours in bed. Sept. 13th, Brain Development: How Nature and Nurture Create our Brain. Sept. 11th, Paradigms how do we make meaning of experience? Brain and Consciousness. Are we primarily matter, or are we primarily consciousness? Is the body a machine that creates conscious experience, or is conscious experience the result of the interaction of a field of consciousness with brain functioning? This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; identifies paradigms governing research into this area; and compares the understanding of mind, consciousness and the body in modern science and Maharishi Vedic Science. Recent research during TM practice is reviewed in detail. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Turqb, Good parody of the state of Meditation PR campaigning. I'd be interested to know how the science guys of the two different camps of meditation research (TM vs. everyone else) would describe what the other guys have to say about their own research on meditation and cultivating spirituality. Do the two 'camps' ever end up on the same panel discussions discussing meditation research? TM'ers seem to argue aggressively to nobody but themselves that TM is the 'best and only'. Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people seems to show that while a few people did start TM they are doing a lot of other spiritual things as they enlighten. http://batgap.com/ Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, for so creatively bringing this moment of popular culture in to view, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along as a preface to this short one-act play: Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who trolls Reddit and a Seventh Day Adventist? A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door. That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the general direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to continue liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himself. Knock knock. UNSUSPECTING CITIZEN (UCer): [opening door] Hello. Can I help you? TRESPASSING MEAN-WELL-ER (TMer): I'm here to help YOU. I've come to stand here at your front door and make provocative statements to lure you into an argument so that I can convince you of the benefits of TM. UCer: Thanks anyway, but I'm not interested. [starts to close door] TMer: WAIT! Are you slamming the door in my face because you practice some spit lesser form of meditation or spiritual practice? UCer: What I practice or don't practice is my business, and none of yours. Goodbye. [continues closing door] TMer: [sticking his foot in the door like a vaccum cleaner salesmen out of 1950s TV sitcoms] But WAIT! *Whatever* it is that you believe or practice, TM is better. [gestures to little red wagon he's pulling behind him full of what appear to be research papers and studies] UCer: I don't CARE whether you think TM is better than whatever I believe in or practice. I'm just not interested in what you're selling. TMer: Aha! So you *deny* that TM is better than what you practice now? Here, I'll prove it to you that TM promotes creativity better, and makes one more successful, and more happy. [starts rummaging through the papers in the little red wagon] I've got a study right here that'll prove it. UCer: You really won't give up, will you? I've told you that I have no interest in TM, and even less in arguing with you. WHY are you continuing to try to get me to do so? TMer: For your own good, dummy. You simply won't ever be as creative and as successful and as happy as you could be unless you admit that TM is the best possible way to achieve these things, and start practicing it yourself. UCer: So you're saying that you practice this TM stuff? TMer: [proudly] I sure do. I haven't missed a meditation in over thirty years now. UCer: So by now, if what you're saying is true, you must be pretty creative. What have you got in your little red wagon that you yourself created that you can show me? TMer: Uh...uh...wait just a minute. I've got a paper here that reports on research done at the University of Whatever that proves conclu... UCer:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. A glorious simpatico of ill-will. Two poisonous peas in a pod. Also, it should be pointed out, two people who never seem to get into the long, demanding, don't-even- THINK-of-dumping-me back-and-forth that a conversation with the person they defend so fanatically would entail. Instead, they spend their time dumping on others who have found such conversations...uh...trying, to say the least. One would think that if they consider him so wise and so spiritually advanced and all, they'd be chatting him up every chance they got. I have also noticed that curious fact Barry. One is tempted to believe that they don't really give much of a shit about Robin at all, except as a tool that they use to dump on their perceived enemies. That makes the whole thing so curious; you would think that they'd have a lot to talk about. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Commahnder Steve! That's me trying to sound like and laugh like a Thermion in Galaxy Quest, wonderful wonderful spoof of scifi entertainment. Even the deleted scenes are memorable. Thanks for bringing some humor to the table this morning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_tm38I26Ggfeature=relmfu From: seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: snip Yesterday I did discuss the whole thing with my pastoral counselor including getting her feedback on the initial exchanges between me and Robin. She's grounded, loving, funny, open minded, devoted sidha, happily married and I trust her judgement 110%. I hope you had a flow chart, bubble diagram and spread sheet!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. Apparently mine doesn't speak for itself. It wasn't Curtis's description of his intent I was hooting at (although that was also eminently hootable). I mean Robin couldn't even bring himself to answer a simple straigtforward question from Curtis about levitation and miracles a few days ago. That remark is even funnier--just on its face, let alone in the context of the specific exchange. Not to mention its lack of any connection to your first comment. Obfuscating seems to be Robins stock in trade. Robin is perhaps the most honest and open and straightforward poster on FFL. I know that isn't saying much given some of the other posters here, so I'll say it another way: If you don't understand him, it isn't because he's tried to confuse you. (Not that he doesn't get a giggle out of folks missing his irony, but he doesn't *intend* for them to miss it.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I don't think encouraging discord was my goal or what Robin got from what I wrote, judging by his response. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! gasp Dear heaven, what a hoot. __. Yeah same old, same old, His Holiness of the 7-layered deception, progressively cruder, baser, grosser - master of strategy # 1 - change the context through deception, manipulation and strategy #2 - cry wolf, slander others - continues along his shameless, clueless, needy, whiny, drama queenery.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip Also, it should be pointed out, two people who never seem to get into the long, demanding, don't-even- THINK-of-dumping-me back-and-forth that a conversation with the person they defend so fanatically would entail. Or not entail. Remember that Barry now has a long list of people whose posts he refrains from reading, so he has no way of knowing what-all a conversation with Robin might entail. Instead, they spend their time dumping on others who have found such conversations...uh...trying, to say the least. Actually what we spend some time doing is dumping on posters who unfairly and/or dishonestly and/or stupidly dump on Robin. One would think that if they consider him so wise and so spiritually advanced and all, they'd be chatting him up every chance they got. Barry would certainly *like* for folks to think that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip One is tempted to believe that they don't really give much of a shit about Robin at all, except as a tool that they use to dump on their perceived enemies. Again, this is what Barry would *like* to tempt folks to believe. One might even characterize his One is tempted to believe... assertions as a tool that he uses to dump on *his* perceived enemies. And once again, remember that Barry *does not read* the posts of those he perceives to be his enemies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] TV series review: Revolution
On 09/09/2012 12:24 PM, turquoiseb wrote: Terrible. I watched it only because one of the stars was supposed to be Giancarlo Esposito, who was so good in Breaking Bad. He doesn't appear in the pilot until the 10 minute mark, which I made it to only by multitasking and writing a letter on another screen while it was playing on my main screen. If it hadn't been for him I wouldn't have made it past the first few minutes, none of which made the least bit of sense. I won't go on and on about it, but if you watched Terra Nova, it's written by the same level of writers, and aimed at the same level of audience, neither of which is a compliment. Haven't watched it yet but here is the link from NBC where folks can watch the pilot online. Probably Comcast and others have it OnDemand. A lot of the networks and even premium channels are previewing the pilots of shows. Debuts broadcast next Monday. http://www.nbc.com/revolution/video/pilot/1415378/ I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't that great. I just find myself watching fewer and fewer broadcast TV shows. They seemed targeted for subterranean creatures. Ah, but Sons of Anarchy returns tomorrow night! BTW, the Hollywood box office just had it's worst weekend since 9/11. People aren't going to movies anymore and there is a trend away from broadcast and cable TV. Streaming is making headway and even FOX is going to release a film (Prometheus I think) streaming the same day it's released on disc.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. A glorious simpatico of ill-will. Two poisonous peas in a pod. Sorta like Curtis and Barry, huh? Curtis is much better at disguising his ill will most of the time, but when he neglects to keep up the Mr. Wonderful facade, the toxicity of what emerges is truly awesome.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting On The Wheel
On 09/08/2012 05:43 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: ...my neat little folding mountain bike and give my synapses a recharge. Share Long: Me too! 'Mountain' bike in the city? LoL! Except from the me tour de force club members a lot of people around here ride mountain bikes. Kind of useful for the mini-mountains we have in the city. Plus there are parks with mountain bike trails.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. Apparently mine doesn't speak for itself. It wasn't Curtis's description of his intent I was hooting at (although that was also eminently hootable). I mean Robin couldn't even bring himself to answer a simple straigtforward question from Curtis about levitation and miracles a few days ago. That remark is even funnier--just on its face, let alone in the context of the specific exchange. Not to mention its lack of any connection to your first comment. I realize this didn't really connect to my first comment, but I guess I am a bundler, to some extent with regard to my comments. I thought Curtis put forward to Robin a pretty simple question regarding the threshold of evidence to believe in miracles. And although I can't say I pore over every word written by Robin, I really didn't see an answer in the first paragraph, or the second or the third. What I thought I got was that according to Robin it was Curtis who lacking somehow in his belief system. Obfuscating seems to be Robins stock in trade. Robin is perhaps the most honest and open and straightforward poster on FFL. That's neat that you see him that way. Seems to me that he told a pretty big untruth about his interaction with Share yesterday. But I suppose you chalk that up to his irony. I don't know many people that would take it upon themselves to totally lie about an interaction in the name of irony. But maybe that's part of his brilliance. I know that isn't saying much given some of the other posters here, so I'll say it another way: If you don't understand him, it isn't because he's tried to confuse you. (Not that he doesn't get a giggle out of folks missing his irony, but he doesn't *intend* for them to miss it.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I don't think encouraging discord was my goal or what Robin got from what I wrote, judging by his response. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! gasp Dear heaven, what a hoot. __. Yeah same old, same old, His Holiness of the 7-layered deception, progressively cruder, baser, grosser - master of strategy # 1 - change the context through deception, manipulation and strategy #2 - cry wolf, slander others - continues along his shameless, clueless, needy, whiny, drama queenery.
[FairfieldLife] MUM Organic Farms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG3uZhyja_Ufeature=related MUM Organic Farms -- Maharishi University
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pundits' Union formed in Fairfield, Iowa
On 09/10/2012 05:56 AM, turquoiseb wrote: [FOX News] In this exclusive phone interview from behind the barbed wire in Vedic City, Iowa (a suburb of Fairfield, and home to the Super Radiance Group of Vedic pundits who chant there daily for world peace), one of the pundits shares with us the reasons why he and his fellow pundits have felt the need to create a union. Pundit Anony Mouse, originally from Punjab Corners, India, talks to our correspondent Barbie Bimbo about their decision. BB: Anony, are you there? There seems to be some interference on the line. AM: That's the wind noise, Barbie. I'm making this call from the farthest corner of the compound, where it hopefully can't be scanned by the people monitoring our communications. There is a lot of wind out here today. BB: Oh, OK. I thought for a minute it was you breathing heavily. I get a lot of that when talking to men on the telephone. AM: You're a woman? The switchboard just put me through to the first available reporter. What do you look like? BB: Sweet of you to ask, Anony. I'm 5 foot ten, blonde hair (real, BTW), with measurements of 38-24-36. The 38 is real, too. AM: Good to know. One of the things that we pundits are supposed to do, supposedly written down by the great Indian sage Shankara, is to think of women as bags of urine and feces. Doing this is supposed to be good for our spiritual advancement, but it's been so long since I've actually seen a woman that I've forgotten what shape to make the bag of urine and feces. Do you think you could send me a photo of yourself? BB: No problem. [short pause] AM: WOW! Thanks, Barbie. If I may say so, you are one great-looking bag of urine and feces! BB: Thanks, Anony. Shall we get to it? What can you tell me about POPUP? AM: Well, Barbie, POPUP stands for Patanjali's Own Protective Union of Pundits. A number of us stuck here in the compound have chosen to form this union to protect our rights and to bring our plight to the attention of the public and the members of the TM organization. BB: Don't the members of the TM organization already know? It says here on my teleprompter that they paid to build the pleasant, resort-like facility you live in? AM: Barbie, TMers wouldn't know a Bengal tiger if one snuck up and bit them on the ass. They believe what they've been told, and they've been told that we all want to be here, and that our lives are a veritable vat of bubbling bliss. BB: Well, aren't they? AM: It depends, Barbie. If you were stuck out in the middle of gods-and-goddesses-forsaken nowhere with a bunch of other guys, trapped behind barbed wire and forced to chant meaningless and non-religious but scientific Sanskrit all day for $10.80 a month, would you call that a vat of bubbling bliss? BB: $10.80 a month doesn't sound like very much. Even I make more than that. AM: That's the amount we're given every month to spend on frivolities. Let me tell you that it isn't quite enough to cover necessities, much less anything frivolous. This past two months I've been needing a new toothbrush but unable to afford one, so I've been reduced to sharing one with one of my fellow pundits. BB: That sucks, Anony. I don't like sharing a toothbrush with anyone, not even my boyfriends who sleep over. AM: That's just the tip of the iceberg, Barbie. Most of us are here not because -- as the TMers have been told -- we are dedicated to the cause of world peace. We are here because our parents and families back in India were promised a living stipend if they sold us into indentured servitude as Vedic pundits. BB: You mean you're *not* Vedic pundits? AM: Well, that depends on your definition, I guess. Yes, we were all given an extensive, in-depth six-week training course called How To Be A Vedic Pundit 101, but that's not seen by many people in India as a suitable qualification for being an actual Vedic pundit. For the purpose of this interview, however, since we're being paid the princely sum of $10.80 a month to chant Vedic hymns to the gods and goddesses, I guess you can think of us as Vedic pundits. BB: How did the TM organization come to the figure $10.80 per month? AM: We were told that it's a Vedic thing. 108 is some kind of magical number to them. Our parents and families back home are supposedly sent an amount based on the same formula, 10,800 rupees per month. BB: Well that certainly sounds like a lot of money. You may be being paid diddleysquat, but at least you're providing for your families. AM: Barbie, 10,800 rupees is a little less than $195. BB: Oh. I get paid more than that, too. AM: Anyway, Barbie, the purpose of POPUP is to make people aware that all is not cardomon-flavored hot milk and honey here behind the barbed wire. We're being exploited. BB: So what are your demands? What do you hope to achieve by forming a union? AM: We want the one thing that is being denied to us by the TM organization
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation
Sept. 27th, The brain and TM practice: What are the markers of the 4th state of consciousness? Sept. 25th, Sleeping and Dreaming: Why we spend 8 hours in bed. Sept. 13th, Brain Development: How Nature and Nurture Create our Brain. Sept. 11th, Paradigms how do we make meaning of experience? Brain and Consciousness. Are we primarily matter, or are we primarily consciousness? Is the body a machine that creates conscious experience, or is conscious experience the result of the interaction of a field of consciousness with brain functioning? This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; identifies paradigms governing research into this area; and compares the understanding of mind, consciousness and the body in modern science and Maharishi Vedic Science. Recent research during TM practice is reviewed in detail. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Turqb, Good parody of the state of Meditation PR campaigning. I'd be interested to know how the science guys of the two different camps of meditation research (TM vs. everyone else) would describe what the other guys have to say about their own research on meditation and cultivating spirituality. Do the two 'camps' ever end up on the same panel discussions discussing meditation research? TM'ers seem to argue aggressively to nobody but themselves that TM is the 'best and only'. Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people seems to show that while a few people did start TM they are doing a lot of other spiritual things as they enlighten. http://batgap.com/ Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, for so creatively bringing this moment of popular culture in to view, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along as a preface to this short one-act play: Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who trolls Reddit and a Seventh Day Adventist? A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door. That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the general direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to continue liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himself. Knock knock. UNSUSPECTING CITIZEN (UCer): [opening door] Hello. Can I help you? TRESPASSING MEAN-WELL-ER (TMer): I'm here to help YOU. I've come to stand here at your front door and make provocative statements to lure you into an argument so that I can convince you of the benefits of TM. UCer: Thanks anyway, but I'm not interested. [starts to close door] TMer: WAIT! Are you slamming the door in my face because you practice some spit lesser form of meditation or spiritual practice? UCer: What I practice or don't practice is my business, and none of yours. Goodbye. [continues closing door] TMer: [sticking his foot in the door like a vaccum cleaner salesmen out of 1950s TV sitcoms] But WAIT! *Whatever* it is that you believe or practice, TM is better. [gestures to little red wagon he's pulling behind him full of what appear to be research papers and studies] UCer: I don't CARE whether you think TM is better than whatever I believe in or practice. I'm just not interested in what you're selling. TMer: Aha! So you *deny* that TM is better than what you practice now? Here, I'll prove it to you that TM promotes creativity better, and makes one more successful, and more happy. [starts rummaging through the papers in the little red wagon] I've got a study right here that'll prove it. UCer: You really won't give up, will you? I've told you that I have no interest in TM, and even less in arguing with you. WHY are you continuing to try to get me to do so? TMer: For your own good, dummy. You simply won't ever be as creative and as successful and as happy as you could be unless you admit that TM is the best possible way to achieve these things, and start practicing it yourself. UCer: So you're saying that you practice this TM stuff? TMer: [proudly] I sure do. I haven't missed a meditation in over thirty years now. UCer: So by now, if what you're saying is true, you must be pretty creative. What have you got in
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pundits' Union formed in Fairfield, Iowa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: In other news from the land of the Ved, cartoonist held on sedition charges: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/10/indian-cartoonist-held-on-sedition\ -charges/ http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/10/indian-cartoonist-held-on-seditio\ n-charges/ We need to find some links to his cartoons. :-D http://www.business2community.com/trends-news/cartoonist-aseem-trivedi-a\ rrested-a-mockery-of-democracy-0275032 http://www.business2community.com/trends-news/cartoonist-aseem-trivedi-\ arrested-a-mockery-of-democracy-0275032
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation
Oct. 2nd, Science, Pseudoscience, and Protoscience: How science evolves. Sept. 27th, The brain and TM practice: What are the markers of the 4th state of consciousness? Sept. 25th, Sleeping and Dreaming: Why we spend 8 hours in bed. Sept. 13th, Brain Development: How Nature and Nurture Create our Brain. Sept. 11th, Paradigms how do we make meaning of experience? Brain and Consciousness. Are we primarily matter, or are we primarily consciousness? Is the body a machine that creates conscious experience, or is conscious experience the result of the interaction of a field of consciousness with brain functioning? This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; identifies paradigms governing research into this area; and compares the understanding of mind, consciousness and the body in modern science and Maharishi Vedic Science. Recent research during TM practice is reviewed in detail. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Turqb, Good parody of the state of Meditation PR campaigning. I'd be interested to know how the science guys of the two different camps of meditation research (TM vs. everyone else) would describe what the other guys have to say about their own research on meditation and cultivating spirituality. Do the two 'camps' ever end up on the same panel discussions discussing meditation research? TM'ers seem to argue aggressively to nobody but themselves that TM is the 'best and only'. Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people seems to show that while a few people did start TM they are doing a lot of other spiritual things as they enlighten. http://batgap.com/ Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, for so creatively bringing this moment of popular culture in to view, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along as a preface to this short one-act play: Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who trolls Reddit and a Seventh Day Adventist? A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door. That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the general direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to continue liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himself. Knock knock. UNSUSPECTING CITIZEN (UCer): [opening door] Hello. Can I help you? TRESPASSING MEAN-WELL-ER (TMer): I'm here to help YOU. I've come to stand here at your front door and make provocative statements to lure you into an argument so that I can convince you of the benefits of TM. UCer: Thanks anyway, but I'm not interested. [starts to close door] TMer: WAIT! Are you slamming the door in my face because you practice some spit lesser form of meditation or spiritual practice? UCer: What I practice or don't practice is my business, and none of yours. Goodbye. [continues closing door] TMer: [sticking his foot in the door like a vaccum cleaner salesmen out of 1950s TV sitcoms] But WAIT! *Whatever* it is that you believe or practice, TM is better. [gestures to little red wagon he's pulling behind him full of what appear to be research papers and studies] UCer: I don't CARE whether you think TM is better than whatever I believe in or practice. I'm just not interested in what you're selling. TMer: Aha! So you *deny* that TM is better than what you practice now? Here, I'll prove it to you that TM promotes creativity better, and makes one more successful, and more happy. [starts rummaging through the papers in the little red wagon] I've got a study right here that'll prove it. UCer: You really won't give up, will you? I've told you that I have no interest in TM, and even less in arguing with you. WHY are you continuing to try to get me to do so? TMer: For your own good, dummy. You simply won't ever be as creative and as successful and as happy as you could be unless you admit that TM is the best possible way to achieve these things, and start practicing it yourself. UCer: So you're saying that you
[FairfieldLife] The Rise of the Brogrammer
Hilarious. I suspect Bhairitu and Lawson and anyone who has worked in the software industry will appreciate this: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-01/the-rise-of-the-brogramm\ er#r=lr-fst http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-01/the-rise-of-the-brogram\ mer#r=lr-fst [A thread on Q and A site Quora describes how to be a brogrammer]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gciFoEbOA8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. I mean Robin couldn't even bring himself to answer a simple straigtforward question from Curtis about levitation and miracles a few days ago. Obfuscating seems to be Robins stock in trade. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I don't think encouraging discord was my goal or what Robin got from what I wrote, judging by his response. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! gasp Dear heaven, what a hoot. __. Yeah same old, same old, His Holiness of the 7-layered deception, progressively cruder, baser, grosser - master of strategy # 1 - change the context through deception, manipulation and strategy #2 - cry wolf, slander others - continues along his shameless, clueless, needy, whiny, drama queenery.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Oh ..old boy, mid-western clique pushing back on strong, mature women. This must be a pattern, this must be a pattern - oh please someone tell me this is a pattern, I beg you, don't hide this from me, not fair. On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:43 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. A glorious simpatico of ill-will. Two poisonous peas in a pod. Also, it should be pointed out, two people who never seem to get into the long, demanding, don't-even- THINK-of-dumping-me back-and-forth that a conversation with the person they defend so fanatically would entail. Instead, they spend their time dumping on others who have found such conversations...uh...trying, to say the least. One would think that if they consider him so wise and so spiritually advanced and all, they'd be chatting him up every chance they got. I have also noticed that curious fact Barry. One is tempted to believe that they don't really give much of a shit about Robin at all, except as a tool that they use to dump on their perceived enemies. That makes the whole thing so curious; you would think that they'd have a lot to talk about. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
The Good Doctor opines, Barry sets up levers, and waits for people to come along and pull them. The content of each lever means nothing, only that it is set in emotional opposition to something Barry thinks is out there. The outrageousness of the lever content is something he works at. Other than that, it is a simple game, over, and over, and over, again. Off FFL, he is probably like anyone else, trying to make it, doing this and that, getting by, but on here, this is his gig, and he does it well. A tip of doc's hat to the clever ploy! Well done, Barry... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip One is tempted to believe that they don't really give much of a shit about Robin at all, except as a tool that they use to dump on their perceived enemies. Again, this is what Barry would *like* to tempt folks to believe. One might even characterize his One is tempted to believe... assertions as a tool that he uses to dump on *his* perceived enemies. And once again, remember that Barry *does not read* the posts of those he perceives to be his enemies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
I'm thinking His Holiness is too offensive for HH. I have a perfect name that befits his stature - His Toxic Turdiness. On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:08 AM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. A glorious simpatico of ill-will. Two poisonous peas in a pod. Sorta like Curtis and Barry, huh? Curtis is much better at disguising his ill will most of the time, but when he neglects to keep up the Mr. Wonderful facade, the toxicity of what emerges is truly awesome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Doctor Dumbass wants to hear more about John-Paul. That was an awesome tale. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I'm thinking His Holiness is too offensive for HH. I have a perfect name that befits his stature - His Toxic Turdiness. On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. A glorious simpatico of ill-will. Two poisonous peas in a pod. Sorta like Curtis and Barry, huh? Curtis is much better at disguising his ill will most of the time, but when he neglects to keep up the Mr. Wonderful facade, the toxicity of what emerges is truly awesome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpuZ_dmFX14 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. A glorious simpatico of ill-will. Two poisonous peas in a pod. Also, it should be pointed out, two people who never seem to get into the long, demanding, don't-even- THINK-of-dumping-me back-and-forth that a conversation with the person they defend so fanatically would entail. Instead, they spend their time dumping on others who have found such conversations...uh...trying, to say the least. One would think that if they consider him so wise and so spiritually advanced and all, they'd be chatting him up every chance they got. I have also noticed that curious fact Barry.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Right a beautifully deceptive tale that was a grotesque, macabre display of the white man's guilt, burden. Because if it was sincere we wouldn't be witness this old boy mid western clique here day in and day out. Doctor Dumbass - you need to polish your skills a little more so you can catch the deception of His Holiness veiled in his beautiful words, stories, no wonder I call him the 7 layer deceptive one, progressively baser, cruder and grosser. When in doubt defer to the Jude. On Sep 10, 2012, at 10:17 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Doctor Dumbass wants to hear more about John-Paul. That was an awesome tale. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I'm thinking His Holiness is too offensive for HH. I have a perfect name that befits his stature - His Toxic Turdiness. On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. A glorious simpatico of ill-will. Two poisonous peas in a pod. Sorta like Curtis and Barry, huh? Curtis is much better at disguising his ill will most of the time, but when he neglects to keep up the Mr. Wonderful facade, the toxicity of what emerges is truly awesome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. Apparently mine doesn't speak for itself. It wasn't Curtis's description of his intent I was hooting at (although that was also eminently hootable). I mean Robin couldn't even bring himself to answer a simple straigtforward question from Curtis about levitation and miracles a few days ago. That remark is even funnier--just on its face, let alone in the context of the specific exchange. Not to mention its lack of any connection to your first comment. I realize this didn't really connect to my first comment, but I guess I am a bundler, to some extent with regard to my comments. Typically the phrase I mean refers back to what has just been said. I thought Curtis put forward to Robin a pretty simple question regarding the threshold of evidence to believe in miracles. What I found amusing was the notion that such a question could ever be simple. And although I can't say I pore over every word written by Robin, I really didn't see an answer in the first paragraph, or the second or the third. Robin was explicit as to why he had no intention of answering Curtis's question in that post, but you really would have had to read the whole thing. Plus his follow- up post. What I thought I got was that according to Robin it was Curtis who lacking somehow in his belief system. Yes, that would be the simplistic reading of what Robin said. You did notice that Curtis misrepresented what was on that page Robin cited about levitating saints, right? You know, speaking of obfuscation? Obfuscating seems to be Robins stock in trade. Robin is perhaps the most honest and open and straightforward poster on FFL. That's neat that you see him that way. Seems to me that he told a pretty big untruth about his interaction with Share yesterday. But I suppose you chalk that up to his irony. If you mean the bit about a conspiracy, yes, that was irony. Pretty broad irony, too. I gather you missed it. I don't know many people that would take it upon themselves to totally lie about an interaction in the name of irony. The intent of a lie, Steve, is to deceive. The thing about irony is that it's designed to be recognized as such. If you do recognize that it's irony--and know what irony means-- irony 2a: the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning --then you will not be deceived and can appreciate the humor. But maybe that's part of his brilliance. There's another possibility, actually, that has to do with his readers. Or some of them. I know that isn't saying much given some of the other posters here, so I'll say it another way: If you don't understand him, it isn't because he's tried to confuse you. (Not that he doesn't get a giggle out of folks missing his irony, but he doesn't *intend* for them to miss it.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
DD: Ha-ha! what looks like a mountain to some is a pebble for another; all is well and wisely set...and I enjoy your humor, and dead on perception, and wisdom, immensely, Ravi-ji!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Right a beautifully deceptive tale that was a grotesque, macabre display of the white man's guilt, burden. Because if it was sincere we wouldn't be witness this old boy mid western clique here day in and day out. Doctor Dumbass - you need to polish your skills a little more so you can catch the deception of His Holiness veiled in his beautiful words, stories, no wonder I call him the 7 layer deceptive one, progressively baser, cruder and grosser. When in doubt defer to the Jude. On Sep 10, 2012, at 10:17 AM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Doctor Dumbass wants to hear more about John-Paul. That was an awesome tale. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I'm thinking His Holiness is too offensive for HH. I have a perfect name that befits his stature - His Toxic Turdiness. On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. A glorious simpatico of ill-will. Two poisonous peas in a pod. Sorta like Curtis and Barry, huh? Curtis is much better at disguising his ill will most of the time, but when he neglects to keep up the Mr. Wonderful facade, the toxicity of what emerges is truly awesome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: I thought Curtis put forward to Robin a pretty simple question regarding the threshold of evidence to believe in miracles. What I found amusing was the notion that such a question could ever be simple. And although I can't say I pore over every word written by Robin, I really didn't see an answer in the first paragraph, or the second or the third. Robin was explicit as to why he had no intention of answering Curtis's question in that post, but you really would have had to read the whole thing. Plus his follow- up post. You have a point. I don't have the time or interest to become a Robin scholar. I am not implying that you do, but I thought it was a pretty straightforward, (instead of simple, if you prefer), question that could have been answered in somewhat straightforward way. But evidently it required a more scholarly and detailed answer than I had the time (or interest) to figure out. I mean, I thought the question pretty much boiled down to, do you feel there should be a higher burden of proof, than merely hearsay to definitively determine that miracles have been performed What I thought I got was that according to Robin it was Curtis who lacking somehow in his belief system. Yes, that would be the simplistic reading of what Robin said. You did notice that Curtis misrepresented what was on that page Robin cited about levitating saints, right? You know, speaking of obfuscation? Obfuscating seems to be Robins stock in trade. Robin is perhaps the most honest and open and straightforward poster on FFL. That's neat that you see him that way. Seems to me that he told a pretty big untruth about his interaction with Share yesterday. But I suppose you chalk that up to his irony. If you mean the bit about a conspiracy, yes, that was irony. Pretty broad irony, too. I gather you missed it. I don't know many people that would take it upon themselves to totally lie about an interaction in the name of irony. The intent of a lie, Steve, is to deceive. The thing about irony is that it's designed to be recognized as such. If you do recognize that it's irony--and know what irony means-- I have to think, Judy, that you would take exception to someone describing an entirely fictitious conversation with you as though it had occurred. I also think that you might take exception to someone writing posts with your byline, even if it is done in the name of so called irony. My feeling is that you would request that such a person refrain from doing that. irony 2a: the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning --then you will not be deceived and can appreciate the humor. But maybe that's part of his brilliance. There's another possibility, actually, that has to do with his readers. Or some of them. I know that isn't saying much given some of the other posters here, so I'll say it another way: If you don't understand him, it isn't because he's tried to confuse you. (Not that he doesn't get a giggle out of folks missing his irony, but he doesn't *intend* for them to miss it.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: The intent of a lie, Steve, is to deceive. The thing about irony is that it's designed to be recognized as such. If you do recognize that it's irony--and know what irony means-- I have to think, Judy, that you would take exception to someone describing an entirely fictitious conversation with you as though it had occurred. I also think that you might take exception to someone writing posts with your byline, even if it is done in the name of so called irony. My feeling is that you would request that such a person refrain from doing that. Just to be clear. Robin did not post under any ID other than his own. But under his own ID he did write replies that might be construed as being part of the thread, and signing another persons name to that reply.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal
Of course, practicing meditation in a large group has an even more profound effect for the participants themselves. People here in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City are reporting very beautiful ongoing experiences of higher states of consciousness and growing inner freedom and fulfilment. When a large group of people meditate together it has a powerful effect of harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire world. I am sure you agree with me that this could not be more necessary in these turbulent times. The purpose of the Settle Foundation grant is to help maintain a permanent group of at least 2000 meditators in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. As you may remember, over 50 highly rigorous published scientific studies show that when a large group of people practice meditation together it has a powerful effect of harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire nation. More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the U.S. has been raised. The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new Pandits has been completed, and the next phase is well underway. 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa applications. We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we can hold our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may cherish such thoughts and such ideals, and dream such dreams of lofty purpose, that we can determine and know what manner of human we will be whenever and wherever the hour strikes, that calls to noble action. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to finally achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance numbers of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was initiated to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the Pandit campus facilities to accommodate them. The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring and heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have received $350,000 since the campaign began last montha huge accomplishment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rise of the Brogrammer
On 09/10/2012 09:49 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Hilarious. I suspect Bhairitu and Lawson and anyone who has worked in the software industry will appreciate this: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-01/the-rise-of-the-brogramm\ er#r=lr-fst http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-01/the-rise-of-the-brogram\ mer#r=lr-fst [A thread on Q and A site Quora describes how to be a brogrammer] Nothing much has changed in 20 years except the brogrammers are younger. But then I worked at a game company and that has always been the style. Nobody had a pocket protector either and some folks went to the fitness club across the street instead of lunch. After hours was the dive bar across the street. Your timing is impeccable. As I was typing this out I heard a truck start up and looked out my window and saw that UPS had just delivered my latest gadget. Maybe Dixon knows why they don't ring the doorbell anymore. The gadget? A Google Nexus phone. I've been meaning to change my phone plan from Verizon to one that T-Mobile has. I don't phone chat much and often have less than 30 minutes of calls on my monthly bill. I do use the data part though. T-Mobile has a $30 a month plan with 5 GB of data, unlimited texting and 100 minutes of talk. Verizon is CDMA and T-Mobile GSM. So my old Eris wouldn't work it and I really needed a newer Android phone anyway since Verizon only updated the Eris once and that to 2.1. The new plan will save me $40 a month. (Sorry if I sound like a commercial). The other problem is it is only available online from T-Mobile not from their stores or (tarnish my liberal soul) Walmart. In fact it was the Walmart $300 deal for a Samsung Galaxy II phone that put my butt in gear last Thursday to go over there (it's 1 mile away and was a Costco before a Walmart) and see if they had any left. They had the phone but only for their Family Mobile plan though the clerk thought they could still sell me the phone then the T-Mobile (probably the manager would have said yes). Instead of taking a chance I came back and read more online articles on the deal. Commenters at Endgadget suggested people just spend $50 more and get the Nexus from Google Play since it is a better phone. So I did. A friend has T-Mobile and gets good reception here but it would be much, much better if T-Mobile and the Methodist church literally right behind my house got their way as T-Mobile wanted to put a 4G tower disguised as a pine tree there. But the neighbors fought it. Now to get the phone battery charged, go get the SIM card and plan and set it up. Then root the Eris so I can use it as an additional test device.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Thank you Doctor Dumbass-ji :-). I'm glad you realize I'm not a stupid troll or a crazy person like some here try to convince others with their shameless, clueless, needy, drama queenery here. Regards, Ravi On Sep 10, 2012, at 10:39 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: DD: Ha-ha! what looks like a mountain to some is a pebble for another; all is well and wisely set...and I enjoy your humor, and dead on perception, and wisdom, immensely, Ravi-ji!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Right a beautifully deceptive tale that was a grotesque, macabre display of the white man's guilt, burden. Because if it was sincere we wouldn't be witness this old boy mid western clique here day in and day out. Doctor Dumbass - you need to polish your skills a little more so you can catch the deception of His Holiness veiled in his beautiful words, stories, no wonder I call him the 7 layer deceptive one, progressively baser, cruder and grosser. When in doubt defer to the Jude. On Sep 10, 2012, at 10:17 AM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Doctor Dumbass wants to hear more about John-Paul. That was an awesome tale. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I'm thinking His Holiness is too offensive for HH. I have a perfect name that befits his stature - His Toxic Turdiness. On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. A glorious simpatico of ill-will. Two poisonous peas in a pod. Sorta like Curtis and Barry, huh? Curtis is much better at disguising his ill will most of the time, but when he neglects to keep up the Mr. Wonderful facade, the toxicity of what emerges is truly awesome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Doctor Dumbass wants to hear more about John-Paul. That was an awesome tale. Much appreciated good Dr. I am working on a piece that paints me in a less sympathetic light of how I decide to deny the homeless people my cash when they hit me up in locust-like waves at the end of my day. I think I am gunna call it Oh Great, am I Becoming a Freak'n Republican Now? I just saw John Paul Sat night and it is funny that since writing that piece he has sort of elevated into a minor celebrity in my eyes, having gotten such nice feedback here. Dealing with John Paul at the end of a long workday can sometimes be a challenge because he has no detectible moods other than enthusiastic and anxious. So I've gotten a bit of a boost in my ability to interact with him since seeing him with his new aura of his FFL's second life. It has paid off in some interesting discussion forays into the world of who is John Paul really? What is behind the obsessions, and can that part of him come out in discussion? I've tried to lead him into some new concepts to see how he views time and it has been revealing. He is mostly in the now about everything, but can articulate other periods of time like tomorrow which gets vaguer as we talk about next week. The whole concept of next week evokes giggles from some joke I am not in on. It seems impossibly silly to him that the time when I will see him again is so far away. He prefers to get me to commit to seeing him tomorrow,which after a few attempts at denials, if the next day is say Monday, I lie through my teeth and make the commitment he seeks. Yes, John Paul I will play music tomorrow. Since he is not coming to the docks the next day I feel that this white lie calms his anxiety about the whole next week deal, with its vagueness and whatever it is about it that he finds so funny. I left out of my last story the weekend he paraded around in his cap and gown in iridescent blue and a mile wide smile. This is my graduation day he announced to me on both days with equal conviction whenever I gave him eye contact as he walked by. I omitted that visual detail not because it was a bit cutesy, but because since I do shows in the kind of school he graduated from, I am aware of a darker side of that day behind the otherwise proud eyes of his dad. This is also the day when society drops John Paul back home and says, Here he is again, he is now very large and strong as an ox, and BTW he is now sexually active in his own imaginary way. Good luck with that without any break of taking him to school for part of the day. Eventually most families have to put him in the kind of home where there will be no life-skills rehab, and he will sink into the shuffling chemically induced state that pervades those places in between very loud frustration tantrums that erupt with Old Faithful regularity. So for me, the cap and gown was a reminder that we are a caring culture, to a point, and beyond that your shit sandwich might not include any condiments to take the edge off. Thanks for asking about him. It is sweet to think about well wishers from afar caring about his life.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: The intent of a lie, Steve, is to deceive. The thing about irony is that it's designed to be recognized as such. If you do recognize that it's irony--and know what irony means-- I have to think, Judy, that you would take exception to someone describing an entirely fictitious conversation with you as though it had occurred. I also think that you might take exception to someone writing posts with your byline, even if it is done in the name of so called irony. My feeling is that you would request that such a person refrain from doing that. Just to be clear. Robin did not post under any ID other than his own. But under his own ID he did write replies that might be construed as being part of the thread, and signing another persons name to that reply. Dear Steve, I think those miracles not worth shit. I was just being provocative. And what it really came down to: Knowing as I did that the miracles were bogus, when someone called my bluff, well, I had to stonewall in my own way--No, OBFUSCATE. Something that I usually get away with until the seventh ray of twilight falls upon my window pane--and, for once, I can see that darkness is coming and I had best put on my pyjamas. And blow out my candle. After saying my prayers to the good Lord who made me. As for the ID thing, that is just another dastardly deed of mine which I thought to get away with. The compunction I feel in you having morally embarrassed me here is enough, I can assure you, to deter me from doing it until it appears to be the only perfect move to make in order to defend Lady Truth. Did you know the colour of the bow ties those German boys were wearing during the Battle of the Somme? My motives are suspect even to myself, Stevie--and you have every right to call me out when you see what mischief I am up to. You must admit, though, Peyton's return could not have been more glorious. Robin
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Greedy teachers in Chicago demand raise.
On 09/10/2012 02:22 AM, wgm4u wrote: This is rich, they're striking for better schools, nyuk. What a charade. (Gotta love those public sector Unions, mostly democrats BTW). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: The average teacher in Chicago Public Schools -- a district facing a $700 million deficit -- makes $71,000 per year before benefits are included. If the district meets union demands and rewards teachers with the requested salary increase, education employees will receive compensation north of $92,000 per year. According to the Illinois Policy Institute, the average annual income of a family in Chicago is $47,000 per year. If implemented, the 30 percent raise will mean that in nine months, a single teacher in the Chicago Public School system will take home nearly double what the average family in the city earns in a year. http://www.drudge.com/news/160789/chicago-teachers-strike-monday-pay Given the brats they probably have to teach you would probably want to be paid that too! Would you want to be a school teacher, Billy? And don't forget that the cost of living is higher in Chicago than in the boonies. Way higher.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: So for me, the cap and gown was a reminder that we are a caring culture, to a point, and beyond thatyour shit sandwich might not include any condiments to take the edge off. That's a keeper. Honestly, that's as fine a line as I've ever read in literature. Thanks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: Dear Steve, snip My motives are suspect even to myself, Stevie--and you have every right to call me out when you see what mischief I am up to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdIev12fCPs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdIev12fCPs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. A glorious simpatico of ill-will. Two poisonous peas in a pod. Also, it should be pointed out, two people who never seem to get into the long, demanding, don't-even- THINK-of-dumping-me back-and-forth that a conversation with the person they defend so fanatically would entail. Instead, they spend their time dumping on others who have found such conversations...uh...trying, to say the least. One would think that if they consider him so wise and so spiritually advanced and all, they'd be chatting him up every chance they got. I have also noticed that curious fact Barry. One is tempted to believe that they don't really give much of a shit about Robin at all, except as a tool that they use to dump on their perceived enemies. Robin? Who's Robin? That makes the whole thing so curious; you would think that they'd have a lot to talk about. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEig1D4sJdI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Talk about a hoot. I read Curtis' intent exactly as he described it. I find Ann's comments perplexing. Judy's and Ravi's comments speak for themselves. I mean Robin couldn't even bring himself to answer a simple straigtforward question from Curtis about levitation and miracles a few days ago. Obfuscating seems to be Robins stock in trade. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I don't think encouraging discord was my goal or what Robin got from what I wrote, judging by his response. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! gasp Dear heaven, what a hoot. __. Yeah same old, same old, His Holiness of the 7-layered deception, progressively cruder, baser, grosser - master of strategy # 1 - change the context through deception, manipulation and strategy #2 - cry wolf, slander others - continues along his shameless, clueless, needy, whiny, drama queenery.
[FairfieldLife] Barry's (Miles) fabrication??
Barry Miles: Musician Paul McCartney was with The Beatles in Rishikesh in 1968 for TM training and he asked the Maharishi at the time about levitation. According to McCartney, the Maharishi said he had never done it, did not know anyone who had, and was unable to find anyone to demonstrate it.[33]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: Robin? Who's Robin? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jaWPQ3Z7FE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jaWPQ3Z7FE
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Doc sez, yeah...exactly! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Doctor Dumbass wants to hear more about John-Paul. That was an awesome tale. Much appreciated good Dr. I am working on a piece that paints me in a less sympathetic light of how I decide to deny the homeless people my cash when they hit me up in locust-like waves at the end of my day. I think I am gunna call it Oh Great, am I Becoming a Freak'n Republican Now? I just saw John Paul Sat night and it is funny that since writing that piece he has sort of elevated into a minor celebrity in my eyes, having gotten such nice feedback here. Dealing with John Paul at the end of a long workday can sometimes be a challenge because he has no detectible moods other than enthusiastic and anxious. So I've gotten a bit of a boost in my ability to interact with him since seeing him with his new aura of his FFL's second life. It has paid off in some interesting discussion forays into the world of who is John Paul really? What is behind the obsessions, and can that part of him come out in discussion? I've tried to lead him into some new concepts to see how he views time and it has been revealing. He is mostly in the now about everything, but can articulate other periods of time like tomorrow which gets vaguer as we talk about next week. The whole concept of next week evokes giggles from some joke I am not in on. It seems impossibly silly to him that the time when I will see him again is so far away. He prefers to get me to commit to seeing him tomorrow,which after a few attempts at denials, if the next day is say Monday, I lie through my teeth and make the commitment he seeks. Yes, John Paul I will play music tomorrow. Since he is not coming to the docks the next day I feel that this white lie calms his anxiety about the whole next week deal, with its vagueness and whatever it is about it that he finds so funny. I left out of my last story the weekend he paraded around in his cap and gown in iridescent blue and a mile wide smile. This is my graduation day he announced to me on both days with equal conviction whenever I gave him eye contact as he walked by. I omitted that visual detail not because it was a bit cutesy, but because since I do shows in the kind of school he graduated from, I am aware of a darker side of that day behind the otherwise proud eyes of his dad. This is also the day when society drops John Paul back home and says, Here he is again, he is now very large and strong as an ox, and BTW he is now sexually active in his own imaginary way. Good luck with that without any break of taking him to school for part of the day. Eventually most families have to put him in the kind of home where there will be no life-skills rehab, and he will sink into the shuffling chemically induced state that pervades those places in between very loud frustration tantrums that erupt with Old Faithful regularity. So for me, the cap and gown was a reminder that we are a caring culture, to a point, and beyond that your shit sandwich might not include any condiments to take the edge off. Thanks for asking about him. It is sweet to think about well wishers from afar caring about his life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rise of the Brogrammer
Actually, when a driver releases a package at the front/back door, he's supposed to ring the bell so if anybody is home,they will come promptly to the door and get their package. However, as a driver, most of us have so much work to do and so little time, that the last thing we want is to get involve in pleasantries with the home owner, so we leave it and split as quietly and quickly as we can. Technique, not the correct thing to do but from a drivers perspective, the fastest and easiest way to get on to the next stop with as little delay. Then you have the driver that is trying to get his route reduced by claiming he has too much work, He loves to stop and chit/chat with as many people as he can, calling it *customer relations* and just needs a little more time/overtime. Jesus God Christ/ Maharishi Mahesh Yogi I', m so thankful you gave me the strength to do that for 28 years! I am so glad I don't have to deal with that stress anymore. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rise of the Brogrammer On 09/10/2012 09:49 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Hilarious. I suspect Bhairitu and Lawson and anyone who has worked in the software industry will appreciate this: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-01/the-rise-of-the-brogramm | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (2) Recent Activity:* New Members 2 Visit Your Group To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal
Please come and enjoy participating in this historic and blissful endeavour for a few weeks. There is nothing even remotely as effective that we can do for our world and our families. Of course, practicing meditation in a large group has an even more profound effect for the participants themselves. People here in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City are reporting very beautiful ongoing experiences of higher states of consciousness and growing inner freedom and fulfilment. When a large group of people meditate together it has a powerful effect of harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire world. I am sure you agree with me that this could not be more necessary in these turbulent times. The purpose of the Settle Foundation grant is to help maintain a permanent group of at least 2000 meditators in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. As you may remember, over 50 highly rigorous published scientific studies show that when a large group of people practice meditation together it has a powerful effect of harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire nation. More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the U.S. has been raised. The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new Pandits has been completed, and the next phase is well underway. 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa applications. We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we can hold our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may cherish such thoughts and such ideals, and dream such dreams of lofty purpose, that we can determine and know what manner of human we will be whenever and wherever the hour strikes, that calls to noble action. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to finally achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance numbers of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was initiated to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the Pandit campus facilities to accommodate them. The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring and heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have received $350,000 since the campaign began last montha huge accomplishment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM Organic Farms
It's nice to see something work as intended. The TMO spent over 200,000.00 to develop an organic black berry farm in Navasota Tx and when the guy that proposed the idea and started it, decided that he wanted to go to TTC, it was abandoned.Two hundred thousand dollars gone and no berries. This is the kind of thing that has turned me off to the TMO for decades. I find the *organization* wasteful and foolish and definitely not deserving of the money people so generously give to it. Maybe I should have also included *deceitful * in my description but that's a different story. Didn't the TMO used to say TM would make people more efficient and creative? From: merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 9:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MUM Organic Farms http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG3uZhyja_Ufeature=related MUM Organic Farms -- Maharishi University
[FairfieldLife] Re: Experience Teaching TM to Homeless Vet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would NEVER approve of that. Instead, Jai Guru Dev. In case you are not joking, why ever not ? Maharishi Mahesh Yogi saw himself as channeling his teacher's wisdom. Praising HIM for his teacher's wisdom is insulting to his life's purpose. L L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: MMY's gift (and yours) to the world. Jai Maharishi! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote: Report of Remarkable Experience of Military Veteran Learning TM Before attending Governor Recertification this past summer, Naomi and I were able to give intro/prep lecture presentations at two different veteran's centers. Both were well received, and I went to Fairfield knowing we had veterans who wanted instruction in TM when we returned � and that most of them would need financial assistance to learn. It was the personal interview with the last man, C.R., at the second lecture, that really sparked my passion for this effort. When I saw that there was no address filled in on his personal interview form, I diplomatically suggested he must have overlooked this line. He barely looked up at me when he answered that he didn't have an address. He had not worked in quite some time because he could not handle pressure, and he kept having meltdowns, getting into arguments, and even violent confrontations. And that stress had carried over into his home life, where he was constantly arguing with his wife when he wasn't hiding from the world, shut up in his room. So he and his wife had separated, and he was now living in a tent � in the Everglades. I looked at this man and my heart just broke. His face was a mask of sorrow and despair, and he looked utterly shut down; his chest barely moved when he breathed. He looked as if he had lost all hope and I wanted to give him a reason to be patient, to hang in there, until I could secure the course tuition for him to be instructed. So when he asked me if I thought TM could really help him, I told him I was confident it would. Working with the David Lynch Foundation, I was able to secure scholarship money for C.R. and another vet to learn upon our return from Fairfield. When we called these men to tell them the good news, they were overjoyed and very grateful. So we set the date for their course of instruction. When C.R. arrived for his instruction he looked very worried and tense. We talked only briefly, and he again expressed hope that this would work. I looked at him at told him that he would now be starting a new chapter in his life, and began his instruction. He had a good, relaxing experience, and barely wanted to open his eyes when his time of meditation was up. I completed his initiation and gave him his going home instructions. The next day, as I was preparing the lecture hall for the arrival of our students, the door opened, and in walked C.R. � and he was smiling, beaming really. I asked him about it, and he said, Last night I slept through the night � for the first time in 21 years. That immediately got my attention. When we discussed experiences, he said he was now back in his home, and with a big smile, that his wife had said it was different when he kissed her. When I replied that we would have to do more research on that, he laughed, and said he had a question: For months, I have been seeing two psychiatrists, two social workers, a psychologist, just completed an anger management course, and been taking handfuls of medications. And in one day of doing TM I have gotten more relief than all of those other things combined. Is this normal? I answered that dramatic results are often reported, and we'll see how it goes day by day. The second day of class he mentioned that he called six friends. When I asked if that is typical for him, he told the class that he has not called anybody for months and months. He basically was staying out of sight in his room. But he wanted to reconnect with people, so he made some calls. Everyone in the class recognized how significant this change is for this man � he was now reaching out to re-establish relationships. Earlier that day, his wife had accompanied him to see one of his social workers, crying tears of gratitude for the change in her husband. (This got the attention of the social worker, who decided she also must learn TM.) Again, his experiences on his form were very positive. He clearly was practicing correctly and
