date:20131023

Meanwhile, those who claim to have sussed out Barry's "formula"
have *demonstrated* their compulsive reactivity and *their*
"shoot the messenger" formula in at least 17 "get Barry" posts.
All while trying to defend the cult they're part of or still feel
some allegiance to.

Sure is good to know they're so smart as not to fall for a "formula,"
eh?  :-)  :-)  :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> What really awes me about Barry's Formula is the projection. You will
almost
>  always find at least one instance in a given rant of his scornfully
accusing
>  others of something he frequently does himself--and often, as in this
case,
>  in the same post in which he makes the accusation.
>
>  I have never seen anybody else do this anywhere near so blatantly,
nor so
>  completely obliviously. It speaks of a near-total absence of
self-knowledge,
>  which is quite amazing for someone who has supposedly been on a
>  spiritual path (or nonpath) for almost 50 years.
>
>  Ann wrote:
>
>  > Barry's formula:
>  >
>  > 1) Write some screed peppered with untruths, exaggerations,
illogical conclusions and
>  > irrelevant factoids.
>  >
>  > 2) Put it out there and to see what happens knowing or not knowing
how bogus or insulting or
>  > just plain repetitive it is.
>  >
>  > 3) Act like you knew exactly what was going to happen as a result
(somehow, in the dustier
>  > regions of your brain realizing others with a modicum of sense and
rationality feel it incumbent
>  > to address the array of idiocy in your posts) and drag out the
usual suspects in the form of
>  > analysis of what the responders were reacting to.
>  >
>  > 4) Pat yourself on the back for having "gotten" us all with your
carefully laid trap.
>  >
>  > 5) Pour yourself another beer while oogling the happy, romantic
couples at the next table and
>  > imagining that you too could be one of them - if only you weren't
so busy keeping the cretins at
>  > FFL in line.
>
>  I wrote:
>  Note that it was Judy who addressed Barry's message, and Barry who
tried to shoot her for doing so in order to ignore her message. And he's
utterly oblivious to the blatant projection.
>
>
>  Barry wrote:
>  (snip)
>  > This is just an exercise in "Shoot the messenger, so we can ignore
> > the message."
>  >
> > It's pure REACTIVITY, otherwise known as "getting your buttons
> > pushed," otherwise known as "getting your panties in a twist."
>
>
>
>  Actually it's known as having fun puncturing Barry's incompetent
>  attempts at "get the TMO" analysis and his hugely inflated ego.
>
>  > You can tell how MUCH they got their buttons pushed when they
> > become so desperate as to try to turn the latter extremely common
> > phrase into a sexual aberration as part of their "Shoot the
> > messenger" routine. :-)
>
>
>  O, got 'im. (Barry often touts the ability to laugh at oneself,
but
>  he couldn't do it if you put a gun to his head.)
>
>  > It's not as if anyone but the other members of the Mean Girls Club
> > pay any attention to them. They're just apologists for Bad Ideas
> > and Bad Behavior, not very bright, and given to tantrums of
> > reactivity.
>
>  Says Barry, having a tantrum of reactivity--otherwise known as
>  Bad Behavior--because his not-very-bright thoughts were shown
>  to be Bad Ideas.
>
>  > Me, I just post what I think, and allow them to react.
>  >
> > It's the oldest dictum of education: Don't describe, *demonstrate*.
> > I provide the stimulus, they demonstrate. :-)
>
>
>  Uh-huh. He really believes this, folks.
>

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Really funny, though number five hits pretty close to the bone - 

Anybody's monkey can see the reason Barry always writes his little rants from 
cafes, is because he is lonely there, and it gives him something to do with his 
hands, as his thoughts grow bitter, and his liquid courage grows.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Note that it was Judy who addressed Barry's message, and Barry who tried to 
shoot her for doing so in order to ignore her message. And he's utterly 
oblivious to the blatant projection.

 Barry wrote:
 (snip)
 > This is just an exercise in "Shoot the messenger, so we can ignore
> the message."
 > 
> It's pure REACTIVITY, otherwise known as "getting your buttons
> pushed," otherwise known as "getting your panties in a twist."

 Actually it's known as having fun puncturing Barry's incompetent
 attempts at "get the TMO" analysis and his hugely inflated ego.

 > You can tell how MUCH they got their buttons pushed when they
> become so desperate as to try to turn the latter extremely common
> phrase into a sexual aberration as part of their "Shoot the
> messenger" routine. :-)

 O, got 'im. (Barry often touts the ability to laugh at oneself, but
 he couldn't do it if you put a gun to his head.)

 > It's not as if anyone but the other members of the Mean Girls Club
> pay any attention to them. They're just apologists for Bad Ideas
> and Bad Behavior, not very bright, and given to tantrums of
> reactivity.

 Says Barry, having a tantrum of reactivity--otherwise known as
 Bad Behavior--because his not-very-bright thoughts were shown
 to be Bad Ideas.

 > Me, I just post what I think, and allow them to react.
 >
> It's the oldest dictum of education: Don't describe, *demonstrate*.
> I provide the stimulus, they demonstrate. :-)

 Uh-huh. He really believes this, folks.

 Barry's formula:

 1) Write some screed peppered with untruths, exaggerations, illogical 
conclusions and irrelevant factoids.

 2) Put it out there and to see what happens knowing or not knowing how bogus 
or insulting or just plain repetitive it is.

 3) Act like you knew exactly what was going to happen as a result (somehow, in 
the dustier regions of your brain realizing others with a modicum of sense and 
rationality feel it incumbent to address the array of idiocy in your posts) and 
drag out the usual suspects in the form of analysis of what the responders were 
reacting to.

 4) Pat yourself on the back for having "gotten" us all with your carefully 
laid trap.

 5) Pour yourself another beer while oogling the happy, romantic couples at the 
next table and imagining that you too could be one of them - if only you 
weren't so busy keeping the cretins at FFL in line.

[FairfieldLife] Just Because She is Such a Twit

http://www.buzzfeed.com/greggdd69/17-horses-that-look-like-miley-cyrus-5v0w 
http://www.buzzfeed.com/greggdd69/17-horses-that-look-like-miley-cyrus-5v0w

[FairfieldLife] RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 What really awes me about Barry's Formula is the projection. You will almost
 always find at least one instance in a given rant of his scornfully accusing
 others of something he frequently does himself--and often, as in this case,
 in the same post in which he makes the accusation.

 I have never seen anybody else do this anywhere near so blatantly, nor so
 completely obliviously. It speaks of a near-total absence of self-knowledge,
 which is quite amazing for someone who has supposedly been on a
 spiritual path (or nonpath) for almost 50 years.

 Ann wrote:

 > Barry's formula:
 > 
 > 1) Write some screed peppered with untruths, exaggerations, illogical 
 > conclusions and 
 > irrelevant factoids.
 > 
 > 2) Put it out there and to see what happens knowing or not knowing how bogus 
 > or insulting or
 > just plain repetitive it is.
 >
 > 3) Act like you knew exactly what was going to happen as a result (somehow, 
 > in the dustier
 > regions of your brain realizing others with a modicum of sense and 
 > rationality feel it incumbent
 > to address the array of idiocy in your posts) and drag out the usual 
 > suspects in the form of
 > analysis of what the responders were reacting to.
 >
 > 4) Pat yourself on the back for having "gotten" us all with your carefully 
 > laid trap.
 >
 > 5) Pour yourself another beer while oogling the happy, romantic couples at 
 > the next table and
 > imagining that you too could be one of them - if only you weren't so busy 
 > keeping the cretins at
 > FFL in line. 

 I wrote:
 Note that it was Judy who addressed Barry's message, and Barry who tried to 
shoot her for doing so in order to ignore her message. And he's utterly 
oblivious to the blatant projection.

 Barry wrote:
 (snip)
 > This is just an exercise in "Shoot the messenger, so we can ignore
> the message."
 > 
> It's pure REACTIVITY, otherwise known as "getting your buttons
> pushed," otherwise known as "getting your panties in a twist."

 Actually it's known as having fun puncturing Barry's incompetent
 attempts at "get the TMO" analysis and his hugely inflated ego.

 > You can tell how MUCH they got their buttons pushed when they
> become so desperate as to try to turn the latter extremely common
> phrase into a sexual aberration as part of their "Shoot the
> messenger" routine. :-)

 O, got 'im. (Barry often touts the ability to laugh at oneself, but
 he couldn't do it if you put a gun to his head.)

 > It's not as if anyone but the other members of the Mean Girls Club
> pay any attention to them. They're just apologists for Bad Ideas
> and Bad Behavior, not very bright, and given to tantrums of
> reactivity.

 Says Barry, having a tantrum of reactivity--otherwise known as
 Bad Behavior--because his not-very-bright thoughts were shown
 to be Bad Ideas.

 > Me, I just post what I think, and allow them to react.
 >
> It's the oldest dictum of education: Don't describe, *demonstrate*.
> I provide the stimulus, they demonstrate. :-)

 Uh-huh. He really believes this, folks.

[FairfieldLife] Stop Watching Us - The Video

Video featuring Oliver Stone, John Cusack, Phil Donahue, Maggie 
Gyllenhall, Will Wheaton, John Conjers and others.
http://youtu.be/aGmiw_rrNxk

[FairfieldLife] Now only criminals can offer us hope

2013-10-23 Thread s3raphita

Suppose you are a struggling mother with young kids, on welfare or a 
minimum-wage job - and a smoker. It is a common practice to find touts on the 
streets in our inner cities offering branded cigarettes - Marlboro being the 
most popular brand - at 2/3rds the price of what you'd have to pay in the 
shops. The price of fags being so expensive the reduction in cost you're being 
offered is a godsend. The crook is your friend in avoiding horrendous "vice" 
taxes"! (Polish bootleg vodka is a big seller here in England.)

 

 Now politicians are always bleeding us dry with taxes, levies, VAT. The 
politicians, and the media luvvies who support them, are *not* on our side. 
(Our/us being those on the bottom rung of the greasy ladder.) But the cigarette 
tout *is* on our side (let's put aside the health-hazard debate for now) - 
struggling mothers will now have more money to spend on their children.
 

 But why stop there? Yes, there are alas too many criminal types you cannot but 
condemn - those violent thugs; the rapists; the muggers; kidnappers; . . . But 
what about those who illegally squat empty property to provide somewhere to 
live for the homeless? And what of people who "liberate" food from restaurants 
and supermarkets to give to the hungry?
 

 Let's face it: our politicians are greedy and shamelessly hypocritical. They 
have no empathy with the poor and have absolutely no idea how to to get us out 
of the mess they themselves have created. Anyone who seriously imagines they 
are going to change is deluding himself.
  
 POLITICIANS ARE UNABLE TO GET US OUT OF THE MESS WE'RE IN. 
 

 Criminals (some of them) can at least offer some much-needed relief.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Where Are The Boomers Headed?

First no one including the younger generation should pay the gambling
debts of the banksters. Just put the banksters on a boat and set it on
fire. That'll teach em.

On 10/23/2013 06:32 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:

Interesting thread, but it's missing out on what is now the most
important issue on the boomers: the contract between the generations
is breaking down.

The baby boomers are in danger of dumping too many problems on the
younger generation. The bills are coming in but there's been a lot of
kicking cans down roads, and it is the younger generation who will
eventually have to pay the bills. We have a good idea of what these
future costs are: the cost of climate change, of investing in the
infrastructure our economy will need if we are to prosper, paying
pensions when the big boomer cohort retires – on top of the cost of
servicing the astronomical debt the governments (especially in the UK
and the USA) have built up. There is now much mistrust between the
generations, and much of what has gone wrong with our economy is a
failure to get the balance right between generations.

Of course, youngsters today haven't a clue of the kind of austerity
those living in the fifties, sixties and seventies had to endure. I'm
sure they have a completely false picture of what life was *actually*
like back in the day. Let me assure you life could be very hard and
insecure. On the other hand, here in the UK, most of the wealth is now
concentrated in property - as the old have the property, they have the
wealth; whereas the young are being priced out of the property market
thanks to the terrifying rise in property prices and so the young are
having to pay ludicrous prices just to rent a shitty bedsit and can't
even save enough for a deposit for a mortgage .

Now here's the thing: I strongly suspect that a lot of the talk about
the generation gap (which has a basis in fact as I've just myself
outlined) is a deliberate attempt by the ruling elite to stoke up envy
between the generations. The point of that strategy is that it
deflects attention from those who are *really* responsible for the
mess we're in - the bankers, the politicians, the hangers-on. The talk
of striking a balance *between* generations deflects us from seeing
that what is needed (indeed, what has *always* been needed) is to
transfer wealth from the rich to the disadvantaged.

(I define the wealthy as anyone who earns more - or who has
possessions worth more - than Seraphita.)

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

When we have beautiful weather here, temps around 70, I understand why
people are willing to put up with the high cost of living in CA. OTOH
I find the four seasons very appealing, just maybe a more moderate
version. Some of those lists about best places to retire list San
Diego as having the most ideal weather in the US. But do palm trees
change color in the fall?!

On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:05 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Back in the 1980s folks headed back from the cities to the small towns
around where I grew up and bought the local restaurants and turned
them from greasy spoons to haute cuisines. We even had "lobster
nights" at the restaurant in the wide spot in the road where I grew
up. I doubt if they have a Starbucks there yet but maybe the local
grocery has an automated espresso maker.

However I watched via Internet as house prices in even that small town
got ridiculous in the late 1990s and early 00's.

On 10/22/2013 10:16 AM, Share Long wrote:

Some boomers have found mid sized towns with universities to be just
the right balance of small town affordability and big city
liveliness. Moving to such was a trend at one point. Even places with
horrendous weather, like Iowa City, found themselves on lists of
ideal retirements spots.

On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:50 AM, Bhairitu
wrote:

Maybe because lattes are cheaper at Starbucks in dusty little towns?
http://behindthewall.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/22/21078363-starbucks-caught-in-chinas-crosshairs-over-posh-prices?lite

On 10/22/2013 09:10 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Perhaps no urban legend has played as long and loudly as the notion
that “empty nesters” are abandoning their dull lives in the suburbs
for the excitement of inner city living.

"...more expensive, denser cities like New York, San Francisco, Los
Angeles and San Jose, Calif., saw the worst boomer flight, suffering
double-digit percentage losses."

'Where Are The Boomers Headed? Not Back To The City'
http://www.forbes.com/boomers-headed-not-back-to-the-city/

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

What really awes me about Barry's Formula is the projection. You will almost
 always find at least one instance in a given rant of his scornfully accusing
 others of something he frequently does himself--and often, as in this case,
 in the same post in which he makes the accusation.

 I have never seen anybody else do this anywhere near so blatantly, nor so
 completely obliviously. It speaks of a near-total absence of self-knowledge,
 which is quite amazing for someone who has supposedly been on a
 spiritual path (or nonpath) for almost 50 years.

 Ann wrote:

 > Barry's formula:
 > 
 > 1) Write some screed peppered with untruths, exaggerations, illogical 
 > conclusions and 
 > irrelevant factoids.
 > 
 > 2) Put it out there and to see what happens knowing or not knowing how bogus 
 > or insulting or
 > just plain repetitive it is.
 >
 > 3) Act like you knew exactly what was going to happen as a result (somehow, 
 > in the dustier
 > regions of your brain realizing others with a modicum of sense and 
 > rationality feel it incumbent
 > to address the array of idiocy in your posts) and drag out the usual 
 > suspects in the form of
 > analysis of what the responders were reacting to.
 >
 > 4) Pat yourself on the back for having "gotten" us all with your carefully 
 > laid trap.
 >
 > 5) Pour yourself another beer while oogling the happy, romantic couples at 
 > the next table and
 > imagining that you too could be one of them - if only you weren't so busy 
 > keeping the cretins at
 > FFL in line. 

 I wrote:
 Note that it was Judy who addressed Barry's message, and Barry who tried to 
shoot her for doing so in order to ignore her message. And he's utterly 
oblivious to the blatant projection.

 Barry wrote:
 (snip)
 > This is just an exercise in "Shoot the messenger, so we can ignore
> the message."
 > 
> It's pure REACTIVITY, otherwise known as "getting your buttons
> pushed," otherwise known as "getting your panties in a twist."

 Actually it's known as having fun puncturing Barry's incompetent
 attempts at "get the TMO" analysis and his hugely inflated ego.

 > You can tell how MUCH they got their buttons pushed when they
> become so desperate as to try to turn the latter extremely common
> phrase into a sexual aberration as part of their "Shoot the
> messenger" routine. :-)

 O, got 'im. (Barry often touts the ability to laugh at oneself, but
 he couldn't do it if you put a gun to his head.)

 > It's not as if anyone but the other members of the Mean Girls Club
> pay any attention to them. They're just apologists for Bad Ideas
> and Bad Behavior, not very bright, and given to tantrums of
> reactivity.

 Says Barry, having a tantrum of reactivity--otherwise known as
 Bad Behavior--because his not-very-bright thoughts were shown
 to be Bad Ideas.

 > Me, I just post what I think, and allow them to react.
 >
> It's the oldest dictum of education: Don't describe, *demonstrate*.
> I provide the stimulus, they demonstrate. :-)

 Uh-huh. He really believes this, folks.

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Note that it was Judy who addressed Barry's message, and Barry who tried to 
shoot her for doing so in order to ignore her message. And he's utterly 
oblivious to the blatant projection.

 Barry wrote:
 (snip)
 > This is just an exercise in "Shoot the messenger, so we can ignore
> the message."
 > 
> It's pure REACTIVITY, otherwise known as "getting your buttons
> pushed," otherwise known as "getting your panties in a twist."

 Actually it's known as having fun puncturing Barry's incompetent
 attempts at "get the TMO" analysis and his hugely inflated ego.

 > You can tell how MUCH they got their buttons pushed when they
> become so desperate as to try to turn the latter extremely common
> phrase into a sexual aberration as part of their "Shoot the
> messenger" routine. :-)

 O, got 'im. (Barry often touts the ability to laugh at oneself, but
 he couldn't do it if you put a gun to his head.)

 > It's not as if anyone but the other members of the Mean Girls Club
> pay any attention to them. They're just apologists for Bad Ideas
> and Bad Behavior, not very bright, and given to tantrums of
> reactivity.

 Says Barry, having a tantrum of reactivity--otherwise known as
 Bad Behavior--because his not-very-bright thoughts were shown
 to be Bad Ideas.

 > Me, I just post what I think, and allow them to react.
 >
> It's the oldest dictum of education: Don't describe, *demonstrate*.
> I provide the stimulus, they demonstrate. :-)

 Uh-huh. He really believes this, folks.

 Barry's formula:

 1) Write some screed peppered with untruths, exaggerations, illogical 
conclusions and irrelevant factoids.

 2) Put it out there and to see what happens knowing or not knowing how bogus 
or insulting or just plain repetitive it is.

 3) Act like you knew exactly what was going to happen as a result (somehow, in 
the dustier regions of your brain realizing others with a modicum of sense and 
rationality feel it incumbent to address the array of idiocy in your posts) and 
drag out the usual suspects in the form of analysis of what the responders were 
reacting to.

 4) Pat yourself on the back for having "gotten" us all with your carefully 
laid trap.

 5) Pour yourself another beer while oogling the happy, romantic couples at the 
next table and imagining that you too could be one of them - if only you 
weren't so busy keeping the cretins at FFL in line.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Is the number of smiley faces in a post of yours, directly, or inversely, 
related to how pissed off you are? I think the former. :-) :-) :-) LOL

 They absolutely are, that is why I never trust the little buggers. Barry's 
smiley faces are actually farts.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
Michael Jackson wrote:
 >
 > I agree with his assessment - I think you take issue with it just
 > cuz you don't like Barry

 That, plus it's all they know how to do.

 This is just an exercise in "Shoot the messenger, so we can ignore
 the message."

 It's pure REACTIVITY, otherwise known as "getting your buttons
 pushed," otherwise known as "getting your panties in a twist."

 You can tell how MUCH they got their buttons pushed when they
 become so desperate as to try to turn the latter extremely common
 phrase into a sexual aberration as part of their "Shoot the
 messenger" routine. :-)

 It's not as if anyone but the other members of the Mean Girls Club
 pay any attention to them. They're just apologists for Bad Ideas
 and Bad Behavior, not very bright, and given to tantrums of
 reactivity.

 Me, I just post what I think, and allow them to react.

 It's the oldest dictum of education: Don't describe, *demonstrate*.
 I provide the stimulus, they demonstrate. :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Where Are The Boomers Headed?

2013-10-23 Thread s3raphita

Interesting thread, but it's missing out on what is now the most important
issue on the boomers: the contract between the generations is breaking down.

The baby boomers are in danger of dumping too many problems on the younger
generation. The bills are coming in but there's been a lot of kicking cans down
roads, and it is the younger generation who will eventually have to pay the
bills. We have a good idea of what these future costs are: the cost of climate
change, of investing in the infrastructure our economy will need if we are to
prosper, paying pensions when the big boomer cohort retires – on top of the
cost of servicing the astronomical debt the governments (especially in the UK
and the USA) have built up. There is now much mistrust between the generations,
and much of what has gone wrong with our economy is a failure to get the
balance right between generations.

Of course, youngsters today haven't a clue of the kind of austerity those
living in the fifties, sixties and seventies had to endure. I'm sure they have
a completely false picture of what life was *actually* like back in the day.
Let me assure you life could be very hard and insecure. On the other hand, here
in the UK, most of the wealth is now concentrated in property - as the old have
the property, they have the wealth; whereas the young are being priced out of
the property market thanks to the terrifying rise in property prices and so the
young are having to pay ludicrous prices just to rent a shitty bedsit and can't
even save enough for a deposit for a mortgage .

Now here's the thing: I strongly suspect that a lot of the talk about the
generation gap (which has a basis in fact as I've just myself outlined) is a
deliberate attempt by the ruling elite to stoke up envy between the
generations. The point of that strategy is that it deflects attention from
those who are *really* responsible for the mess we're in - the bankers, the
politicians, the hangers-on. The talk of striking a balance *between*
generations deflects us from seeing that what is needed (indeed, what has
*always* been needed) is to transfer wealth from the rich to the disadvantaged.

(I define the wealthy as anyone who earns more - or who has possessions worth
more - than Seraphita.)

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

When we have beautiful weather here, temps around 70, I understand why people
are willing to put up with the high cost of living in CA. OTOH I find the four
seasons very appealing, just maybe a more moderate version. Some of those lists
about best places to retire list San Diego as having the most ideal weather in
the US. But do palm trees change color in the fall?!

On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:05 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

Back in the 1980s folks headed back from the cities to the small towns around
where I grew up and bought the local restaurants and turned them from greasy
spoons to haute cuisines. We even had "lobster nights" at the restaurant in
the wide spot in the road where I grew up. I doubt if they have a Starbucks
there yet but maybe the local grocery has an automated espresso maker.

However I watched via Internet as house prices in even that small town got
ridiculous in the late 1990s and early 00's.

On 10/22/2013 10:16 AM, Share Long wrote:

Some boomers have found mid sized towns with universities to be just the
right balance of small town affordability and big city liveliness. Moving to
such was a trend at one point. Even places with horrendous weather, like Iowa
City, found themselves on lists of ideal retirements spots.

On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:50 AM, Bhairitu
mailto:noozguru@... wrote:

Maybe because lattes are cheaper at Starbucks in dusty little towns?

http://behindthewall.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/22/21078363-starbucks-caught-in-chinas-crosshairs-over-posh-prices?lite

On 10/22/2013 09:10 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

Perhaps no urban legend has played as long and loudly as the notion that
“empty nesters” are abandoning their dull lives in the suburbs for the
excitement of inner city living.

"...more expensive, denser cities like New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles
and San Jose, Calif., saw the worst boomer flight, suffering double-digit
percentage losses."

'Where Are The Boomers Headed? Not Back To The City'
http://www.forbes.com/boomers-headed-not-back-to-the-city/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2013/10/17/where-are-the-boomers-headed-not-back-to-the-city/

[FairfieldLife] RE: Extraordinary Presentation tonite by Dr. Eike Hartmann

This sound like it could be an interesting talk. However, how come all of these 
people associated with the Movement have these reeealyyy long titles and 
are "ministers" no less? Minister of Architecture of the Global Country of 
World Peace. Now that is a mouthful. How about slimming that one down to 
Overseer of Optimistic Builders.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 In the Dome, Weds at 8pm
 

 Dr. Eike Hartmann, Minister of Architecture of the Global Country of World 
Peace and world's most renowned expert on Maharishi Vastu architecture — Vedic 
architecture in harmony with natural law — will give a special talk with 
slides, during his visit this week to Maharishi University of Management and 
Maharishi Vedic City.
 He worked closely with  Maharishi for 35 years on the profound principles of 
Maharishi Vastu for fortune-creating house, city, and global reconstruction, as 
well as principles of enlightened art and design. He has been responsible for 
the design and construction of hundreds of beautiful Maharishi Vastu buildings 
here and all over the world.
 He will give a unique presentation, with questions and answers:
 • Maharishi's definition of Vishwakarma derived from Purusha Sukta – with 
simultaneous translation (10 min)
 • Recitation of Purusha Sukta, plus address of Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam and 
Raja Harris (20 min)
 • Our Sankalpa on Vishwakarama Day, mentioning all the Vastu projects 
Maharishi ever envisioned – newly updated and animated (19 min)
 Please bring your valid program badge.

[FairfieldLife] Extraordinary Presentation tonite by Dr. Eike Hartmann

2013-10-23 Thread dhamiltony2k5

In the Dome, Weds at 8pm
 

 Dr. Eike Hartmann, Minister of Architecture of the Global Country of World 
Peace and world's most renowned expert on Maharishi Vastu architecture — Vedic 
architecture in harmony with natural law — will give a special talk with 
slides, during his visit this week to Maharishi University of Management and 
Maharishi Vedic City.
 He worked closely with  Maharishi for 35 years on the profound principles of 
Maharishi Vastu for fortune-creating house, city, and global reconstruction, as 
well as principles of enlightened art and design. He has been responsible for 
the design and construction of hundreds of beautiful Maharishi Vastu buildings 
here and all over the world.
 He will give a unique presentation, with questions and answers:
 • Maharishi's definition of Vishwakarma derived from Purusha Sukta – with 
simultaneous translation (10 min)
 • Recitation of Purusha Sukta, plus address of Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam and 
Raja Harris (20 min)
 • Our Sankalpa on Vishwakarama Day, mentioning all the Vastu projects 
Maharishi ever envisioned – newly updated and animated (19 min)
 Please bring your valid program badge.

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[FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-23 Thread dhamiltony2k5

Wow, thanks. Great narrative of the unraveling of the Church. Interesting 
parallels in ways about the community of the organization protecting itself. I 
am not Catholic and did not follow closely the whole story of it. But this is 
great for the arc of what happened to the Church and where they are at now. 
“For the Priestly secrecy has its rewards but for the faithful [meditator] the 
cover-up may be an unforgivable sin.” 
 --Buck 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Watching this documentary tonight, in French although the original was in 
English. Very powerful, and very disturbing. It's about sexual abuse within the 
Catholic Church, told beautifully and heart-breakingly. The film won three 
Primetime Emmy awards, and won top honors at the British Film Institute Awards 
and the Irish Film and Television Awards. 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/reference 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/reference 

Worse than the sexual abuse is the conspiracy of silence that strove to hide 
it. Much of the film is "narrated" by monks who have taken a vow of silence. 
Their superiors thought that they were "safe," and that their vows would keep 
them silent. They forgot sign language.

[FairfieldLife] America’s Mood Map

"West Virginia is the most neurotic state, Utah is the most agreeable and
the folks of Wisconsin are the country's most extroverted, a new study
says. Take TIME's test to find out which state most suits you:

'America’s Mood Map: An Interactive Guide to the United States of Attitude'
http://science.time.com/

[image: Inline image 1]

[FairfieldLife] Man Cave Rules

Sometimes you just have to come out of your man-cave and do some
socializing, like to talk to your spouse, or when the kids come over, or
your cousin is in town. Or, maybe you're just getting some cabin fever and
want to walk to the living room or kitchen. There is a man cave room at my
 place that I call the Men's Room, except when Rita is in there; then I
call it the Laundry Room,

Examples of Man Caves:
http://manlandsite.com/

[image: Inline image 1]

The first rule of Man Caves is you have to build it. No matter how limited
you think your space is at home, find room.

More Man Cave Rules:
http://ext.homedepot.com/community/blog/small-man-cave-ideas/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free-will Hunting

With the invention of the plow, agriculture, and animal husbandry, the
second religion of man became 'Nature and Society', governed by laws, both
secular and divine. Fixed laws are opposed to man's free-will, laws
ascertained by observing the heavenly planets and the seasons; a faith in
the bountiful harvest, which was a boon from the sky gods, who could be
seen of man by the clearing the fields. In this religion of revelation,
truth was thought of as a fixed expression of cosmic order, with a
firmament above, the stars being the shinning gods, or chinks in which
light entered the world of man below.

Here, in towns and villages, men gathered in large groups, to perform
ceremonies and rites, by use of a pole and a sacrifice fetish, offered in
return for a good harvest, and with rhythmic movement of hands and feet in
certain prescribed patterns, accompanied by vocalization of non-sense
gibberish. The Harvest, based on the belief in cosmic law was the second
universal religion, and it's High God was the industrious Arch Harvester,
thus Naturalism whose bounty was called Maat.

Next:

Osiris and Seth

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Richard Williams wrote:

> The very first religion of man concerned the 'Luck of the Hunt',
> expressions of which remain in the neolithic cave paintings of Southern
> France. Here, in small groups, early man retired inside dark solitary
> places in order to perform ceremonies dedicated to obtaining food with the
> use of a fire fetish and with rhythmic movement of hands and feet in
> certain prescribed patterns, accompanied by vocalization of non-sense
> gibberish.
>
> Are we agreed so far?
>
> The Hunt, based on the religious belief in man's free-will to move about
> in a search for food, was the first universal religion of man, and it's
> High God was the energetic Arch Hunter, thus Animism whose bounty was
> called Manna.
>
> Next: A fixed law harvest and all about the cargo cult.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Arabs descendants of Ishmael??

"That is no longer the case. In the last quarter century or so, 
archaeologists have seen one settled assumption after another concerning 
who the ancient Israelites were and where they came from proved false. 
Rather than a band of invaders who fought their way into the Holy Land, 
the Israelites are now thought to have been an 'indigenous culture that 
developed west of the Jordan River around 1200 B.C. Abraham, Isaac, and 
the other patriarchs appear to have been spliced together out of various 
pieces of local lore. The Davidic Empire, which archaeologists once 
thought as incontrovertible as the Roman, is now seen as an invention of 
Jerusalem-based priests in the seventh and eighth centuries B.C. who 
were eager to burnish their national history. The religion we call 
Judaism does not reach well back into the second millennium B.C. but 
appears to be, at most, a product of the mid-first."


'False testament: archaeology refutes the Bible's claim to history'
http://www.yorku.ca/dcarveth/false_testament

On 10/23/2013 2:30 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Richard,


I believe you'll get much disagreement from Jews and Christians when 
you say that Abraham and Sarah did not exist in history. 
 Specifically, the Jews have been worshiping the Torah ever since it 
was written by Moses to be the word of God.




---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

It's probably a mistake to think of the Bible version of 'Abrahma' or 
'Ishmael' as factual history. And it doesn't explain why Shiites are 
in Iran and Sunnis are in Saudi Arabia. Putting the blame on an old 
Hag doesn't explain much either. Go figure.


We don't really know much about the Biblical Abraham or where he came 
from or when. We do know that there may have been an Abraham after the 
domestication of camels.


So, the Bible stories came after the Sumerians and the Indus Valley 
civilization. The entire Levant is probably Hindu influenced - not for 
nothing did they call him 'Abrahm' and her, 'Sarai".


But, in fact, there is no historical 'Abraham' or 'Sarah' who came 
from Ur or Mari; its just a story meant to illustrate a political 
point. There are many myths surrounding the person of 'Abraham'. The 
question is: "Did Hindus help write the Bible?


Read more:

"False testament: archaeology refutes the Bible's claim to history"
by Daniel Lazare
Harper's Magazine
March 2002

Titles of interest:

"Unearthing the Bible"
by Israel Finklestein and Neil Asher Siberman
The Free Press, 2001

"The Mythic Past"
by Thomas L. Thompson
Basic Books, 2001

On 10/22/2013 6:48 PM, jr_esq@...  wrote:


 Mike,


That family karma is about right.  If the NT prophecy is right, 
Armageddon is supposed to start in the Palestine area.  This is 
probably the main reason why Christians in the USA are favoring the 
Israelis over the Arabs in the area.   They want the Rapture to come 
and to witness the Second Coming of Jesus.



But there is still the question of fairness in the land of Palestine. 
 President Jimmy Carter has been making the point for the past few 
years that the Palestinians have the right to have sovereignty over 
their own land.  Americans and the rest of the world need to know the 
inequity that is the heart of the problem in that area of the Middle 
East.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, 
 
 wrote:


Read the story of Abraham. Ishmael was Abraham's first born son but 
his mother was Hagar, an Egyptian maid servant of Abraham's wife, 
Sarah. Sarah later became pregnant with Isaac. Isaac received the 
blessings and inheritance of Abraham and the Fit hit the shan. 
Supposedly Hagar and Ishmael were jealous and trouble makers and 
Sarah insisted that Abraham banish them to keep the *peace*. Family 
karma.



On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:01 AM, "jr_esq@..." 
   wrote:
I've read similar information about the relationship between Jews and 
Arabs.  But one wonders why they're continually fighting each other 
if they're genetically related.  Is it due to karma?



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
,  
 wrote:


Are all Arabs descendants of Ishmael, the son of Abraham and Sara's 
Egyptian

slave Hagar ("uncertain")?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelites

Maqrizi  says that Moses 
 wiped out almost all 
non-Ishmaelite Arabs such as Amaleq 
 and Midianites 
,^[14] 
  and by the 
time of Muhammad all Arabs were descendents of Ishmael according to 
historians Hisham Ibn Al-Kalbi 
 and al-Sharqi who 
believed that all Arabs were descendents of Ishmael including the 
Qahtanites.^[15]

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Is the number of smiley faces in a post of yours, directly, or inversely, 
related to how pissed off you are? I think the former. :-) :-) :-) LOL

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
Michael Jackson wrote:
 >
 > I agree with his assessment - I think you take issue with it just
 > cuz you don't like Barry

 That, plus it's all they know how to do.

 This is just an exercise in "Shoot the messenger, so we can ignore
 the message."

 It's pure REACTIVITY, otherwise known as "getting your buttons
 pushed," otherwise known as "getting your panties in a twist."

 You can tell how MUCH they got their buttons pushed when they
 become so desperate as to try to turn the latter extremely common
 phrase into a sexual aberration as part of their "Shoot the
 messenger" routine. :-)

 It's not as if anyone but the other members of the Mean Girls Club
 pay any attention to them. They're just apologists for Bad Ideas
 and Bad Behavior, not very bright, and given to tantrums of
 reactivity.

 Me, I just post what I think, and allow them to react.

 It's the oldest dictum of education: Don't describe, *demonstrate*.
 I provide the stimulus, they demonstrate. :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Arabs descendants of Ishmael??

Jews don't "worship" the Torah, John, any more than Christians "worship" the 
Christian Scriptures.
 
John wrote:
 (snip)
 > Specifically, the Jews have been worshiping the Torah ever since it was 
 > written by Moses to be the word
 > of God.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

That's right, it's a paradox, merely the play of nature or lila shakti as you 
well know. MMY called it a 'seeming' or Mithya. Only those truly enlightened 
know the mystery.

 The very first decision by man in the garden of Eden set the wheel of karma in 
motion, man was warned NOT to eat of the forbidden fruit in the 'center' (sex 
organs) of the Garden (body), yet, being the pioneering spirit he was, he 
preferred to know Good from Evil and become like a 'God', as Lucifer suggested. 
The was his first Samskara, if you will and he's been trapped ever since in a 
matrix of his own making.

 So MMY comes and says, "Mistrigunya bhav Arjuna, be without the three gunas 
(forces),  "Yogastah kuru karmani "  established in Being (Yoga or truth) 
perform action (be free of the binding effects of karma).

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 wgm4u, when you say proclivities of the ego, could this be referring to 
samskaras and or vasanas? And if yes, then that seems to blow free will out of 
the water. 

 Thanks for distinction bt para prakriti and apara prakriti which I've not 
heard before. Would you say they are both in the bap? Or is para prakriti in 
the Absolute? But it can't be if it's prakriti! Is it a paradox?

 On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:08 PM, wgm4u  wrote:

   IMHO, the ego is a product of nature, however nature is both pure 
(para-prakiti) and impure (apara-prakriti). When the Bible speaks of a fallen 
angel they are talking about the purely material nature, or Satan. Depending on 
the proclivities of the ego it is either Satanic or Angelic. (And, yes MMYs 
small s).

 Regarding Satan-Satan is; "The power that works for Good, though scheming 
ill", from Faust.

 Earth and Satan's power is the obstacle ground that creates character in men 
and woman, without the challenge of temptation man would not grow, (nor would 
an athlete unless he had challenges to his athletic ability). Earth is the 
proving ground, if you will

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 What do you all think: is Satan the same thing as the ego? What is meant by 
ego? Is it what Maharishi meant by small s self? If I remember correctly, the 
only difference on the MMPI between schizo and genius, is good ego strength 
which the genius has.

 On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:55 AM, wgm4u  
wrote:

   Wow, powerful documentary. Just goes to show, Satan (temptation) is 
everywhere, even Jesus himself was tempted by Satan, but never succumbed, "Get 
thee behind me Satan", he said. 

 Here's the Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6dc449jec 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6dc449jec

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Correction. Now that I'm paying more attention to the French, I
 should say that most of the people "speaking" in the documentary
 in sign language are students who were formerly abused by the
 priests, not necessarily monks who had taken a vow of silence.
 The students were deaf, you see, and the priests thought that
 speaking only in sign language they'd never be able to convince
 anyone what had happened to them.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
"TurquoiseB" wrote:
 >
 > Watching this documentary tonight, in French although the original was
 > in English. Very powerful, and very disturbing. It's about sexual
 abuse
 > within the Catholic Church, told beautifully and heart-breakingly. The
 > film won three Primetime Emmy awards, and won top honors at the
 British
 > Film Institute Awards and the Irish Film and Television Awards.
 >
 > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/reference 
 > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/reference
 >
 >
 > Worse than the sexual abuse is the conspiracy of silence that strove
 to
 > hide it. Much of the film is "narrated" by monks who have taken a vow
 of
 > silence. Their superiors thought that they were "safe," and that their
 > vows would keep them silent. They forgot sign language.
 >

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

wgm4u, when you say proclivities of the ego, could this be referring to 
samskaras and or vasanas? And if yes, then that seems to blow free will out of 
the water. 

Thanks for distinction bt para prakriti and apara prakriti which I've not heard 
before. Would you say they are both in the bap? Or is para prakriti in the 
Absolute? But it can't be if it's prakriti! Is it a paradox?

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:08 PM, wgm4u  wrote:

IMHO, the ego is a product of nature, however nature is both pure 
(para-prakiti) and impure (apara-prakriti). When the Bible speaks of a fallen 
angel they are talking about the purely material nature, or Satan. Depending on 
the proclivities of the ego it is either Satanic or Angelic. (And, yes MMYs 
small s).

Regarding Satan-Satan is; "The power that works for Good, though scheming ill", 
from Faust.

Earth and Satan's power is the obstacle ground that creates character in men 
and woman, without the challenge of temptation man would not grow, (nor would 
an athlete unless he had challenges to his athletic ability). Earth is the 
proving ground, if you will

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

What do you all think: is Satan the same thing as the ego? What is meant by 
ego? Is it what Maharishi meant by small s self? If I remember correctly, the 
only difference on the MMPI between schizo and genius, is good ego strength 
which the genius has.

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:55 AM, wgm4u  wrote:

Wow, powerful documentary. Just goes to show, Satan (temptation) is everywhere, 
even Jesus himself was tempted by Satan, but never succumbed, "Get thee behind 
me Satan", he said. 

Here's the Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6dc449jec

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Correction. Now that I'm paying more attention to the French, I
should say that most of the people "speaking" in the documentary
in sign language are students who were formerly abused by the
priests, not necessarily monks who had taken a vow of silence.
The students were deaf, you see, and the priests thought that
speaking only in sign language they'd never be able to convince
anyone what had happened to them.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Watching this documentary tonight, in French although the original was
>>> in English. Very powerful, and very disturbing. It's about sexual
>>abuse
>>> within the Catholic Church, told beautifully and heart-breakingly. The
>>> film won three Primetime Emmy awards, and won top honors at the
>>British
>>> Film Institute Awards and the Irish Film and Television Awards.
>>>
>>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/reference
>>>
>>>
>>> Worse than the sexual abuse is the conspiracy of silence that strove
>>to
>>> hide it. Much of the film is "narrated" by monks who have taken a vow
>>of
>>> silence. Their superiors thought that they were "safe," and that their
>>> vows would keep them silent. They forgot sign language.
>>>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Cutting the Cable Tip

In some cases the Hulu+ encoding is better than Netflix.  SuperHD on 
Netflix looks great when it actually streams it but then it will step 
down when the network gets congested and instead of rebuffering you get 
a very grainy picture.  Hulu+ may be mainly 720p but it is usually very 
clear and tough they don't have DD+ their Prologic encodes can be very 
well done.


On 10/23/2013 10:38 AM, Richard Williams wrote:
We cut the cable - and every time I turn on the TV set I smile - 
broadcast is free, and it's in HD. Great if you can get it.


We get ABC, CBS, NBC, and CW for watching news and weather and Parks 
and Recreation and the Big Bang Theory. We don't have time to watch 
110 channels - don't need their stupid box on top of the TV set either.


So, we've got the Hulu + and the Netflix streaming  - now we can watch 
TV shows and movies as much as we want to, when we want to. Hulu + 
also has the Criterion collection.


http://www.criterion.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Criterion_Collection

So, I figured we paid Time-Warner thousands over the course of ten 
years! Our TV and video watching expenses went from $90 a month to $16 
a month. Now that's better!



On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Bhairitu > wrote:


I've watched a couple movies on HuluPlus with no commercials. 
Those were "for rent" on Amazon and VUDU.  The latter two use

better encoding as HuluPlus looks a bit like it was run through
ffmpeg with the fast conversion preset.  I also watched this
week's episode of "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D" on HuluPlus but it has
commercials though no more than one minute's worth per break which
is tolerable.

Today the cable gets cut and the DVR back to Comcast.  We pay way
too much for entertainment.  I tried to keep my bill managed but
some folks pay over $200 a month.  My broadband and phone is on
another service.


On 10/09/2013 03:49 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


Got it and thanks. Works for me!

On 10/9/2013 4:22 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


If you don't have HuluPlus and have PayPal there is a one month
free
trial of HuluPlus if you sign up with your PayPal account. I was
surprised at the number of shows I figured that might have to
"rent" on
Amazon are actually available with the subscription.

http://dealnews.com/Hulu-Plus-1-Month-Trial-for-free-with-Pay-Pal/855642.html

[FairfieldLife] RE: Arabs descendants of Ishmael??

2013-10-23 Thread jr_esq

 Richard,
 

 I believe you'll get much disagreement from Jews and Christians when you say 
that Abraham and Sarah did not exist in history.  Specifically, the Jews have 
been worshiping the Torah ever since it was written by Moses to be the word of 
God.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 It's probably a mistake to think of the Bible version of 'Abrahma' or 
'Ishmael' as factual history. And it doesn't explain why Shiites are in Iran 
and Sunnis are in Saudi Arabia. Putting the blame on an old Hag doesn't explain 
much either. Go figure.
 
 We don't really know much about the Biblical Abraham or where he came from or 
when. We do know that there may have been an Abraham after the domestication of 
camels. 
 
 So, the Bible stories came after the Sumerians and the Indus Valley 
civilization. The entire Levant is probably Hindu influenced - not for nothing 
did they call him 'Abrahm' and her, 'Sarai". 
 
 But, in fact, there is no historical 'Abraham' or 'Sarah' who came from Ur or 
Mari; its just a story meant to illustrate a political point. There are many 
myths surrounding the person of 'Abraham'. The question is: "Did Hindus help 
write the Bible?
 
 Read more:
 
 "False testament: archaeology refutes the Bible's claim to history" 
 by Daniel Lazare 
 Harper's Magazine 
 March 2002 
 
 Titles of interest: 
 
 "Unearthing the Bible" 
 by Israel Finklestein and Neil Asher Siberman 
 The Free Press, 2001 
 
 "The Mythic Past" 
 by Thomas L. Thompson 
 Basic Books, 2001 
 On 10/22/2013 6:48 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote:
 
Mike,
 
 
 That family karma is about right.  If the NT prophecy is right, Armageddon is 
supposed to start in the Palestine area.  This is probably the main reason why 
Christians in the USA are favoring the Israelis over the Arabs in the area.   
They want the Rapture to come and to witness the Second Coming of Jesus.
 
 
 But there is still the question of fairness in the land of Palestine.  
President Jimmy Carter has been making the point for the past few years that 
the Palestinians have the right to have sovereignty over their own land.  
Americans and the rest of the world need to know the inequity that is the heart 
of the problem in that area of the Middle East.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 Read the story of Abraham. Ishmael was Abraham's first born son but his mother 
was Hagar, an Egyptian maid servant of Abraham's wife, Sarah. Sarah later 
became pregnant with Isaac. Isaac received the blessings and inheritance of 
Abraham and the Fit hit the shan. Supposedly Hagar and Ishmael were jealous and 
trouble makers and Sarah insisted that Abraham banish them to keep the *peace*. 
Family karma.
 
 
 On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:01 AM, "jr_esq@..." mailto:jr_esq@... 
 mailto:jr_esq@... wrote:
 
   I've read similar information about the relationship between Jews and Arabs. 
 But one wonders why they're continually fighting each other if they're 
genetically related.  Is it due to karma? 
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:cardemaister@... wrote:
 
 Are all Arabs descendants of Ishmael, the son of Abraham and Sara's Egyptian
 slave Hagar ("uncertain")?
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelites 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelites
 
 
 
 Maqrizi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maqrizi says that Moses 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses wiped out almost all non-Ishmaelite Arabs 
such as Amaleq http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaleq and Midianites 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midianites,[14] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelites#cite_note-14 and by the time of 
Muhammad all Arabs were descendents of Ishmael according to historians Hisham 
Ibn Al-Kalbi and al-Sharqi who believed that all Arabs were descendents of 
Ishmael including the Qahtanites.[15] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelites#cite_note-15

[FairfieldLife] Iran May Pardon Hanging Survivor

2013-10-23 Thread jr_esq

What can we say to a country that still hangs people as punishment for drug 
trafficking?  Iran also hangs people for murder, rape, armed robbery and 
adultery.  If this sharia law was applied in the USA, the prison overcrowding 
problem would be solved in no time. 
 

 http://news.yahoo.com/iran-spares-life-hanging-survivor-085748048.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/iran-spares-life-hanging-survivor-085748048.html

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

IMHO, the ego is a product of nature, however nature is both pure 
(para-prakiti) and impure (apara-prakriti). When the Bible speaks of a fallen 
angel they are talking about the purely material nature, or Satan. Depending on 
the proclivities of the ego it is either Satanic or Angelic. (And, yes MMYs 
small s).

 Regarding Satan-Satan is; "The power that works for Good, though scheming 
ill", from Faust.

 Earth and Satan's power is the obstacle ground that creates character in men 
and woman, without the challenge of temptation man would not grow, (nor would 
an athlete unless he had challenges to his athletic ability). Earth is the 
proving ground, if you will

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 What do you all think: is Satan the same thing as the ego? What is meant by 
ego? Is it what Maharishi meant by small s self? If I remember correctly, the 
only difference on the MMPI between schizo and genius, is good ego strength 
which the genius has.

 On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:55 AM, wgm4u  
wrote:

   Wow, powerful documentary. Just goes to show, Satan (temptation) is 
everywhere, even Jesus himself was tempted by Satan, but never succumbed, "Get 
thee behind me Satan", he said. 

 Here's the Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6dc449jec 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6dc449jec

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Correction. Now that I'm paying more attention to the French, I
 should say that most of the people "speaking" in the documentary
 in sign language are students who were formerly abused by the
 priests, not necessarily monks who had taken a vow of silence.
 The students were deaf, you see, and the priests thought that
 speaking only in sign language they'd never be able to convince
 anyone what had happened to them.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
"TurquoiseB" wrote:
 >
 > Watching this documentary tonight, in French although the original was
 > in English. Very powerful, and very disturbing. It's about sexual
 abuse
 > within the Catholic Church, told beautifully and heart-breakingly. The
 > film won three Primetime Emmy awards, and won top honors at the
 British
 > Film Institute Awards and the Irish Film and Television Awards.
 >
 > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/reference 
 > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/reference
 >
 >
 > Worse than the sexual abuse is the conspiracy of silence that strove
 to
 > hide it. Much of the film is "narrated" by monks who have taken a vow
 of
 > silence. Their superiors thought that they were "safe," and that their
 > vows would keep them silent. They forgot sign language.
 >

[FairfieldLife] Free-will Hunting

The very first religion of man concerned the 'Luck of the Hunt',
expressions of which remain in the neolithic cave paintings of Southern
France. Here, in small groups, early man retired inside dark solitary
places in order to perform ceremonies dedicated to obtaining food with the
use of a fire fetish and with rhythmic movement of hands and feet in
certain prescribed patterns, accompanied by vocalization of non-sense
gibberish.

Are we agreed so far?

The Hunt, based on the religious belief in man's free-will to move about in
a search for food, was the first universal religion of man, and it's High
God was the energetic Arch Hunter, thus Animism whose bounty was called
Manna.

Next: A fixed law harvest and all about the cargo cult.

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Arabs descendants of Ishmael??

These 'men' realized their full potential, hence they were considered to be 
'God-Men'. 

 Yadava Krishna and Jesus Christ (meaning the anointed one), were avatars, even 
the Vaishnavas would agree with that. A full avatar is a man (or woman) that 
was fully realized in a previous life and agrees to reincarnate (at the will of 
the Father) on earth to guide stumbling mankind.

 God does not appear as himself, per se, but uses his past saints to act for 
him, (according to Swami Yogananda).  God does not appear as himself isolated 
to one form for all time, that's why all the Gods of Hinduism (er' Vedic 
Science) are all cloaked in symbology.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Billy,

 You have an interesting interpretation of the Gita.  But I believe you'll get 
a lot of flak from most Christians when you say that Jesus is only a man.

 http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Different_heresies_regarding_the_very_nature_ 
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Different_heresies_regarding_the_very_nature_of_jesus
 of_jesus 
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Different_heresies_regarding_the_very_nature_of_jesus 

 Also, the Vaishnavas will protest that you consider Krishna to be a man.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Armageddon, or the final battle between Good and Evil, takes place in the 
human consciousness. It is the very battle talked about in the Bhagavad Gita. 
"Ignorance is so thick in the world you could cut it with a knife", Jerry 
Jarvis (paraphrased).

 These profits are clueless, life will continue on for millions of years yet to 
come until the end of the Manvantara, (duration of a Manu).

 The second coming will be the dawning in the consciousness of man of the 
'Christ Consciousness', not some reappearance of the man named Jesus.

 Christ here being one and the same as Krishna Consciousness or MMY's God 
consciousness. Jesus and Yadava Krishna were merely humans (avatars) carrying 
that great consciousness within them, just like you and me can do as well, in 
time.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Michael,

 Here's a Pastor David Pack who explains briefly the sources for the prophecy 
of Armageddon.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShEoyPcGMrk 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShEoyPcGMrk 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Jr. Not just New Testament prophesy but Old Testament as well. See the books 
of Daniel and Ezekial as well, not sure of the other prophets..

 On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:57 PM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:

   John, as you know--don't you?--this is only a relatively small segment of 
American Christians who are into the Rapture and Armageddon and so on. You 
really shouldn't use the term "Christians" without some qualification, as if 
what you were describing applied to all Christians in the country. A lot of 
liberal Christians are on the side of the Palestinians against Israel, for 
instance.

 John wrote:
 (snip)

 > That family karma is about right.  If the NT prophecy is right, Armageddon 
 > is supposed to start in the
 > Palestine area.  This is probably the main reason why Christians in the USA 
 > are favoring the Israelis
 > over the Arabs in the area.   They want the Rapture to come and to witness 
 > the Second Coming of
 > Jesus.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Jobs That Suck

One time I interviewed for a job publishing menus for restaurants around
town using Microsoft Word. Rita had a temp desktop publishing job several
years ago. She was doing the newsletters and magazines for twenty small
suburban enclaves around San Antonio. The company, 'Neighborhood News', had
a PC with Microsoft Publisher on it. Lame! We both learned how to use Quark
Xpress in graphics school. Go figure.

So, I told my grandson to check this out:

[image: Inline image 1]

Bay College:
1 W Campbell Avenue, Campbell, CA
http://www.baycollegeca.org/index.php?curpage=deg_digitalarts

"NewTek ignited the desktop video revolution, and television production was
never the same..."

Newtek:
5131 Beckwith Blvd.
San Antonio, TX 78249
http://www.newtek.com/company/careers.html

If you plan on going to an technology interview soon, here are some tips:

3. Technology. Take a look at the kind of desktops, mobile technology and
video/projection equipment being used around the office. If it all appears
cutting-edge, that can indicate the firm values up-to-date technology.

Read more:

7 Critical Observations to Make While Waiting to Interview:
http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/interview


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> **
>
>
> The video game market is flooded and not doing so well.  There is A LOT of
> outsourcing to third world countries of video game production.  I kinda
> know a little bit about that industry. ;-)
>
> BTW, if your grandson wants to be games designer then he better get deeply
> involved in the arts.  I've known some of the best and most famous ones and
> they didn't have a computer science background.  One was much more an
> artist than anything else.
>
>
> On 10/21/2013 07:48 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
>
>
>  > I don't know what they expect people to do for a living these days.
> >
> It looks like there may be more jobs available in the medical field (after
> the current down turn is over).
>
> It's not complicated - there will be more and more older people for young
> people to take care of in the future.
>
> So, I helped put my grandaughter through nursing school - an RN program -
> two years. Before she graduated, she was offered a job in San Diego with a
> sign-on bonus! My grandson wants to be a computer game designer - he is
> learning programming at a community college in Sonoma.
>
> "According to the Entertainment Software Association, which represents
> American video game companies, Texas is home to 24 colleges and
> universities that offer video-game-related courses and programs. More are
> on the way, including a University of Texas at Austin post-baccalaureate
> program that will enroll students in 2014."
>
> 'Texas Incentives Lure Video Game Companies'
> http://www.texastribune.org/
>
> On 10/20/2013 11:16 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
>
>
>
>  I did "desktop publishing" as a temp in 1980 for a company that did
> those real estate magazines.  Of course there was no graphics, just
> entering listing on paper into the computer.  The gig lasted only a few
> days as they just needed some extra temps for a while who were good at
> typing and maybe some data entry experience (got that at the EDS temp
> gig).  EDS wanted me back but I wound up working as a temp at title
> insurance company.  Then my old band wanted me back so that was the end of
> temp work.
>
> I tried again when I returned a couple years later to my home town to sign
> up for temp computer work but they wanted a computer science degree for
> that.  I laughed at them.
>
> I don't know what they expect people to do for a living these days.  There
> are actually fewer and fewer jobs.  It is probably time to do what Bucky
> Fuller suggested and pay people NOT TO WORK.  But Dixon won't like that. ;-)
>
>
> On 10/20/2013 07:17 AM, Richard Williams wrote:
>
>
>  After I graduated from High School I attended a community college and
> got a degree in Graphic Design. I was offered a job in at Pacific Life so I
> moved out to San Francisco to get started. I rented an apartment on
> Sacramento street right around the corner from China Town. It was the worst
> job I ever had - mainly due to the boredom. It was a job that sucked - what
> I really wanted to do was desktop publishing, except it wasn't invented
> yet. So, I had to wait until 19893 to get a PC. Go figure.
>
>  Graphic Artist at work:
>
>  [image: Inline image 1]
>
>  http://www.smartschoolfinder.com/guide/graphic-art-design-schools
>
>  My job was to produce documents and printed materials for the life
> insurance sales agents. I  used an AM Varityper to produce the text, a
> T-square to align the text, and wax to stick it down. When everything got
> approved, I gave ithe layout to the printer.
>
>  The only good thing about this job was they sen

Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

Judy, I guess there are some items on the MMPI that measure intelligence though 
that is not its focus. The snippet is something I read a long time ago so don't 
remember the reference. I'll do a little googling and see what I can find.

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:38 PM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:

Sure it's a good thing. But where did "the only difference on the MMPI between 
schizo and genius, is good ego strength which the genius has" come in? That, 
you see, is what I was asking about.

Share wrote:
> Judy, what I read was about schizophrenia and the bottom line was that ego 
> strength, at least
> as measured by the MMPI, is a good thing.

Share wrote: 
(snip)

> If I remember correctly, the only difference on the MMPI between schizo and 
> genius,
> is good ego strength which the genius has.

Share, the MMPI isn't an IQ test, it's a test of mental health and personality 
type.

And what do you mean by "schizo"? Schizophrenia? Do you perhaps mean schizoid 
personality disorder, or schizotypal personality disorder, or schizoaffective 
disorder?

A person with any of the disorders or mental illnesses with "schizo" in their 
names could also be a genius.

RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

Sure it's a good thing. But where did "the only difference on the MMPI between 
schizo and genius, is good ego strength which the genius has" come in? That, 
you see, is what I was asking about.

 Share wrote:
 > Judy, what I read was about schizophrenia and the bottom line was that ego 
 > strength, at least
 > as measured by the MMPI, is a good thing.

   Share wrote: 
 (snip)
 > If I remember correctly, the only difference on the MMPI between schizo and 
 > genius,
 > is good ego strength which the genius has.

 Share, the MMPI isn't an IQ test, it's a test of mental health and personality 
type.

 And what do you mean by "schizo"? Schizophrenia? Do you perhaps mean schizoid 
personality disorder, or schizotypal personality disorder, or schizoaffective 
disorder?

 A person with any of the disorders or mental illnesses with "schizo" in their 
names could also be a genius.

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

Judy, what I read was about schizophrenia and the bottom line was that ego 
strength, at least as measured by the MMPI, is a good thing.

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:48 PM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:

Share wrote: 
(snip)

> If I remember correctly, the only difference on the MMPI between schizo and 
> genius,
> is good ego strength which the genius has.

Share, the MMPI isn't an IQ test, it's a test of mental health and personality 
type.

And what do you mean by "schizo"? Schizophrenia? Do you perhaps mean schizoid 
personality disorder, or schizotypal personality disorder, or schizoaffective 
disorder?

A person with any of the disorders or mental illnesses with "schizo" in their 
names could also be a genius.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Note that it was Judy who addressed Barry's message, and Barry who tried to 
shoot her for doing so in order to ignore her message. And he's utterly 
oblivious to the blatant projection.

 Barry wrote:
 (snip)
 > This is just an exercise in "Shoot the messenger, so we can ignore
> the message."
 > 
> It's pure REACTIVITY, otherwise known as "getting your buttons
> pushed," otherwise known as "getting your panties in a twist."

 Actually it's known as having fun puncturing Barry's incompetent
 attempts at "get the TMO" analysis and his hugely inflated ego.

> You can tell how MUCH they got their buttons pushed when they
> become so desperate as to try to turn the latter extremely common
> phrase into a sexual aberration as part of their "Shoot the
> messenger" routine. :-)

 O, got 'im. (Barry often touts the ability to laugh at oneself, but
 he couldn't do it if you put a gun to his head.)

> It's not as if anyone but the other members of the Mean Girls Club
> pay any attention to them. They're just apologists for Bad Ideas
> and Bad Behavior, not very bright, and given to tantrums of
> reactivity.

 Says Barry, having a tantrum of reactivity--otherwise known as
 Bad Behavior--because his not-very-bright thoughts were shown
 to be Bad Ideas.

> Me, I just post what I think, and allow them to react.
 >
> It's the oldest dictum of education: Don't describe, *demonstrate*.
> I provide the stimulus, they demonstrate. :-)

 Uh-huh. He really believes this, folks.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Places to Live That Suck

You live in a food desert, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture,
if the closest grocery store is at least one mile away — it's 10 miles in
rural areas — and 20 percent of the residents in your census tract live at
or below the federal poverty line, which is $22,350 for a family of four.

If you have to walk more than a mile to get some groceries, it would be a
good thing to stay awhile and talk while you do your shopping. Make sure to
bring along some nice eco paper bags to put your stuff in. LoL!

FYI:

The three most popular items at most small stores and where 90% of profits
are:

1. Marlboro cigarettes
2. Budweiser beer
3. Coca-Cola

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On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Richard Williams wrote:

> There used to be a string of stores around here called 'Stop 'n Go' - then
> they got bought out and became large Valero 'Corner Stores'. You probably
> know about '7 Eleven' and the old 'Circle K'.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Many of the older smaller stores around here got bought up by Pakistanis
> or Indians and converted into small neighborhood grocery stores with names
> like 'Stop n' Shop, 'Stop 'n Joy', 'Pack 'n Tote', and "Circle A-Z'. It's
> all a matter of placement and positioning.Go figure.
>
> There's a little store store up in Austin called 'Quickie Pickie' and it's
> a drive through store. But these could hardly be called grocery stores any
> more than Dollar General could be called a Department Store. So, how far do
> you live from a real corner grocery store and could you walk there if you
> wanted to? You might be living in a food desert.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Richard Williams wrote:
>
>> Another place to live that sucks is in a food desert. It's all a matter
>> of placement and positioning.
>>
>> You live in a food desert, according to the U.S. Department of
>> Agriculture, if the closest grocery store is at least one mile away — it's
>> 10 miles in rural areas — and 20 percent of the residents in your census
>> tract live at or below the federal poverty line, which is $22,350 for a
>> family of four.
>>
>> "A food desert is an area where affordable healthy food is difficult to
>> obtain", except by a automobile.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> Grocery Stores in Redmond Neighborhoods?
>>
>> http://redmondcity.blogspot.com/2011/06/grocery-stores-in-neighborhoods.html
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:15 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> You ain't seen nothing kid. Where I was born and brought up was voted
>>> the worst town in Britain! (Middlesbrough in the north-east of England.)
>>> Funny thing is, I don't resent the place and have quite fond memories of
>>> the people (friendly and bullshit-free), but I can't see me ever leaving
>>> London for anywhere except maybe New York, Berlin, Paris, Tokyo, . . . some
>>> metropolis. Perhaps I've just been corrupted.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/mywrn4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>>>
>>> Being a military brat, I've lived in some great places, and some places
>>> that sucked. One time I got stuck for a year in Valdosta, Georgia; another
>>> time I got stuck up in Lubbock, Texas.
>>>
>>> So, when we recently visited this place it reminded me of one of the
>>> towns I've lived in that sucked - back when I was seventeen. In this town
>>> there is a store called Dan's and a cafe called Pancho's. Go figure.
>>>
>>> When Rita and I were at Pancho's last weekend, we saw four guys sitting
>>> at a table, three dressed in plaid shirts, one wearing a cowboy hat, eating
>>> Tex-mex food and drinking beer from bottles. Now that's classy!
>>>
>>> Can't even get a date on Saturday night! That's because in places that
>>> suck, there are no unmarried women to date, and if there were, there's no
>>> place to go. LoL!
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
>

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

Share wrote: 
 (snip)
 > If I remember correctly, the only difference on the MMPI between schizo and 
 > genius,
 > is good ego strength which the genius has.

 Share, the MMPI isn't an IQ test, it's a test of mental health and personality 
type.

 And what do you mean by "schizo"? Schizophrenia? Do you perhaps mean schizoid 
personality disorder, or schizotypal personality disorder, or schizoaffective 
disorder?

 A person with any of the disorders or mental illnesses with "schizo" in their 
names could also be a genius.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Cutting the Cable Tip

We cut the cable - and every time I turn on the TV set I smile - broadcast
is free, and it's in HD. Great if you can get it.

We get ABC, CBS, NBC, and CW for watching news and weather and Parks and
Recreation and the Big Bang Theory. We don't have time to watch 110
channels - don't need their stupid box on top of the TV set either.

So, we've got the Hulu + and the Netflix streaming  - now we can watch TV
shows and movies as much as we want to, when we want to. Hulu + also has
the Criterion collection.

http://www.criterion.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Criterion_Collection

So, I figured we paid Time-Warner thousands over the course of ten years!
Our TV and video watching expenses went from $90 a month to $16 a month.
Now that's better!

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> **
>
>
> I've watched a couple movies on HuluPlus with no commercials.  Those were
> "for rent" on Amazon and VUDU.  The latter two use better encoding as
> HuluPlus looks a bit like it was run through ffmpeg with the fast
> conversion preset.  I also watched this week's episode of "Agents of
> S.H.I.E.L.D" on HuluPlus but it has commercials though no more than one
> minute's worth per break which is tolerable.
>
> Today the cable gets cut and the DVR back to Comcast.  We pay way too much
> for entertainment.  I tried to keep my bill managed but some folks pay over
> $200 a month.  My broadband and phone is on another service.
>
>
> On 10/09/2013 03:49 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
>
>
>  Got it and thanks. Works for me!
>
> On 10/9/2013 4:22 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
>
>
>
> If you don't have HuluPlus and have PayPal there is a one month free
> trial of HuluPlus if you sign up with your PayPal account. I was
> surprised at the number of shows I figured that might have to "rent" on
> Amazon are actually available with the subscription.
>
> http://dealnews.com/Hulu-Plus-1-Month-Trial-for-free-with-Pay-Pal/855642.html
>
>
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Brass Teapot


Thanks - I put it on my list. Also, see 'The Man in the Bottle'.

"You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of 
sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose 
boundaries are that of imagination. That's a sigh post up ahead! Your 
next stop: The Twilight Zone."


Recommended:

"The Man in the Bottle"
Season 2 Episode 2
The Twilight Zone
October 7, 1960
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_in_the_Bottle

On 10/23/2013 11:52 AM, Bhairitu wrote:


"The Brass Teapot" is a fun comedy about a young couple who in financial
hard times get a brass teapot which gives them money in a rather unusual
way. This is fun film starring Juno Temple and Michael Angarano. It's
available on Netflix WI.
http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/The_Brass_Teapot/70260476

I now return you the usual "tempests in teapot" on FFL. :-D

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Arabs descendants of Ishmael??

2013-10-23 Thread jr_esq

Billy,

 You have an interesting interpretation of the Gita.  But I believe you'll get 
a lot of flak from most Christians when you say that Jesus is only a man.

 http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Different_heresies_regarding_the_very_nature_ 
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Different_heresies_regarding_the_very_nature_of_jesus
 of_jesus 
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Different_heresies_regarding_the_very_nature_of_jesus 

 Also, the Vaishnavas will protest that you consider Krishna to be a man.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Armageddon, or the final battle between Good and Evil, takes place in the 
human consciousness. It is the very battle talked about in the Bhagavad Gita. 
"Ignorance is so thick in the world you could cut it with a knife", Jerry 
Jarvis (paraphrased).

 These profits are clueless, life will continue on for millions of years yet to 
come until the end of the Manvantara, (duration of a Manu).

 The second coming will be the dawning in the consciousness of man of the 
'Christ Consciousness', not some reappearance of the man named Jesus.

 Christ here being one and the same as Krishna Consciousness or MMY's God 
consciousness. Jesus and Yadava Krishna were merely humans (avatars) carrying 
that great consciousness within them, just like you and me can do as well, in 
time.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Michael,

 Here's a Pastor David Pack who explains briefly the sources for the prophecy 
of Armageddon.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShEoyPcGMrk 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShEoyPcGMrk 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Jr. Not just New Testament prophesy but Old Testament as well. See the books 
of Daniel and Ezekial as well, not sure of the other prophets..

 On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:57 PM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:

   John, as you know--don't you?--this is only a relatively small segment of 
American Christians who are into the Rapture and Armageddon and so on. You 
really shouldn't use the term "Christians" without some qualification, as if 
what you were describing applied to all Christians in the country. A lot of 
liberal Christians are on the side of the Palestinians against Israel, for 
instance.

 John wrote:
 (snip)

 > That family karma is about right.  If the NT prophecy is right, Armageddon 
 > is supposed to start in the
 > Palestine area.  This is probably the main reason why Christians in the USA 
 > are favoring the Israelis
 > over the Arabs in the area.   They want the Rapture to come and to witness 
 > the Second Coming of
 > Jesus.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> I agree with his assessment - I think you take issue with it just
> cuz you don't like Barry

That, plus it's all they know how to do.

This is just an exercise in "Shoot the messenger, so we can ignore
the message."

It's pure REACTIVITY, otherwise known as "getting your buttons
pushed," otherwise known as "getting your panties in a twist."

You can tell how MUCH they got their buttons pushed when they
become so desperate as to try to turn the latter extremely common
phrase into a sexual aberration as part of their "Shoot the
messenger" routine.  :-)

It's not as if anyone but the other members of the Mean Girls Club
pay any attention to them. They're just apologists for Bad Ideas
and Bad Behavior, not very bright, and given to tantrums of
reactivity.

Me, I just post what I think, and allow them to react.

It's the oldest dictum of education: Don't describe, *demonstrate*.
I provide the stimulus, they demonstrate.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] More patients, more health care jobs

"Almost 6 million young Americans aged 16 to 24 are neither in school nor
working, according to a new report by the Opportunity National Coalition."

http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/

"Experts estimate that hundreds of thousands of New Jerseyans will be added
to the insurance rolls under the Affordable Care Act, increasing the need
for health care specialists in everything from medical billing to medical
sonography."

'Obamacare impact: More patients, more health care jobs, experts predict'
Jersey Journal:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf

[FairfieldLife] The Brass Teapot

"The Brass Teapot" is a fun comedy about a young couple who in financial 
hard times get a brass teapot which gives them money in a rather unusual 
way.  This is fun film starring Juno Temple and Michael Angarano.  It's 
available on Netflix WI.
http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/The_Brass_Teapot/70260476

I now return you the usual "tempests in teapot" on FFL. :-D

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

What do you all think: is Satan the same thing as the ego? What is meant by 
ego? Is it what Maharishi meant by small s self? If I remember correctly, the 
only difference on the MMPI between schizo and genius, is good ego strength 
which the genius has.

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:55 AM, wgm4u  wrote:

Wow, powerful documentary. Just goes to show, Satan (temptation) is everywhere, 
even Jesus himself was tempted by Satan, but never succumbed, "Get thee behind 
me Satan", he said. 

Here's the Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6dc449jec

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Correction. Now that I'm paying more attention to the French, I
should say that most of the people "speaking" in the documentary
in sign language are students who were formerly abused by the
priests, not necessarily monks who had taken a vow of silence.
The students were deaf, you see, and the priests thought that
speaking only in sign language they'd never be able to convince
anyone what had happened to them.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB"  wrote:
>>
>> Watching this documentary tonight, in French although the original was
>> in English. Very powerful, and very disturbing. It's about sexual
>abuse
>> within the Catholic Church, told beautifully and heart-breakingly. The
>> film won three Primetime Emmy awards, and won top honors at the
>British
>> Film Institute Awards and the Irish Film and Television Awards.
>>
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/reference
>>
>>
>> Worse than the sexual abuse is the conspiracy of silence that strove
>to
>> hide it. Much of the film is "narrated" by monks who have taken a vow
>of
>> silence. Their superiors thought that they were "safe," and that their
>> vows would keep them silent. They forgot sign language.
>>

[FairfieldLife] Fact-Checking Ted Cruz

A perfect example of the inefficiency of government as opposed to free
markets systems.

"Plans are no longer able to charge more based on health status or gender,
but they can vary based on geography, tobacco use, and age. Still,
Obamacare regulations prohibit insurers from charging an adult 64 or older
more than three times the premium charged a 21-year-old for the same
coverage. Younger adults, who are less risky to insure, will likely see the
greatest increases because their premiums are meant to balance out the
medical costs of those older and sicker insurance consumers who are more
likely to use their benefits."

'This Is What Fact-Checking Ted Cruz Reveals'
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Someone told me you have days of the week panties, but that you wear each day, 
for an entire week! Gross!
 I obviously cannot compete with your stupidity, so I'll leave it all to you. 
Toodles.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
 >
> Have you been smoking weed, again? :-) 
> 
> Who gives a shit, about who gives a shit, about TM? 
> What's the issue? What's the problem? 
> 
> Some people find TM the bees knees, and some couldn't 
> care less about it. 
> 
> Your point, please? Are you actually trying to increase 
> the marketing potential of TM? 

 

Unless the "one" is Supposedly Enlightened, I guess.  :-)  :-)  :-)


 > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: 
> 
> Just a note of caution to those who still believe that "If we charge 
> more/less/enough for TM, they will come," *they* in this case being the 
> untold millions you think are required to make the world a better place and 
> who are out there, just waiting for the right TM marketing approach. Consider 
> who you're talking to, and what *they* believe. 
> 
> The latest Gallup poll doesn't seem to indicate that John Q. American Public 
> is quite on the same wavelength that you are. 58% of them probably wouldn't 
> make it through the "15 day waiting period." The legalization of marijuana 
> has five times the number of supporters as Congress does. 63% are 
> unthreatened by homosexual behavior, and 53% believe that same-sex marriage 
> should be legalized. The more-puritan-than-the-Puritans lifestyle ethic of 
> many die-hard TMers just doesn't map to the way that most Americans see the 
> world. 
> 
> 
> http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10
>  
> http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10
>  
> 
> Me, I find these Gallup findings positive, and hopeful, because they're 
> *pragmatic*, and on the whole they seem to indicate that Americans aren't 
> quite the hyper-conservative know-nothings that the Tea Party and others 
> would have you believe they are. But such pragmatism is not gonna be appealed 
> to by Woo Woo propaganda about how many Yogic Flyers can butt-bounce on the 
> head of a pin made of polystyrene foam, and how that's gonna magically create 
> Whirled Peas. 
> 
> The thing that would make TM "marketable" again IMO would be a return to the 
> more pragmatic approach of the late 60s, in which it was marketed as a simple 
> relaxation technique that would help to make you less stressed and more 
> productive in your real-world activities. Nobody gives a shit about 
> enlightenment; if the Gallup organization polled for that one, my bet is that 
> the percentage of people they'd find who believe it exists wouldn't crack two 
> digits, and the number who would actually pay money for it would be a 
> fraction of that. 
> 
> A non-drug technique that takes only 40 minutes per day and could help to 
> lower stress levels is marketable. A Woo Woo "gateway drug" that only seeks 
> to hook people on a path to spending several hours of their day bouncing on 
> their butts with other people to create Whiled Peas is not. Just sayin'...
>

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Don't be ridiculous. Did you read my posts on this? What Barry wrote made no
sense.

Can you refute anything I said?

No, I didn't think so.

Michael wrote:

> I agree with his assessment - I think you take issue with it just cuz you
> don't like Barry

On Wed, 10/23/13, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...
mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote:

Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target
audience
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 23, 2013, 1:33 PM

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Just a note of
caution to those who still believe that "If we charge
more/less/enough for TM, they will come," *they* in
this case being the untold millions you think are required
to make the world a better place and who are out there, just
waiting for the right TM marketing approach. Consider who
you're talking to, and what *they* believe.

The latest Gallup poll doesn't seem to indicate that
John Q. American Public is quite on the same wavelength that
you are. 58% of them probably wouldn't make it through
the "15 day waiting period." The legalization of
marijuana has five times the number of supporters as
Congress does. 63% are unthreatened by homosexual behavior,
and 53% believe that same-sex marriage should be legalized.
The more-puritan-than-the-Puritans lifestyle ethic of many
die-hard TMers just doesn't map to the way that most
Americans see the world.

http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10

Me, I find these Gallup findings positive, and hopeful,
because they're *pragmatic*, and on the whole they seem
to indicate that Americans aren't quite the
hyper-conservative know-nothings that the Tea Party and
others would have you believe they are. But such pragmatism
is not gonna be appealed to by Woo Woo propaganda about how
many Yogic Flyers can butt-bounce on the head of a pin made
of polystyrene foam, and how that's gonna magically
create Whirled Peas.

The thing that would make TM "marketable" again
IMO would be a return to the more pragmatic approach of the
late 60s, in which it was marketed as a simple relaxation
technique that would help to make you less stressed and more
productive in your real-world activities. Nobody gives a
shit about enlightenment; if the Gallup organization polled
for that one, my bet is that the percentage of people
they'd find who believe it exists wouldn't crack two
digits, and the number who would actually pay money for it
would be a fraction of that.

A non-drug technique that takes only 40 minutes per day and
could help to lower stress levels is marketable. A Woo Woo
"gateway drug" that only seeks to hook people on a
path to spending several hours of their day bouncing on
their butts with other people to create Whiled Peas is not.
Just sayin'...
As usual, Barry misses
entirely the point of his own post. In addition, he makes up
random shit, comes to erroneous conclusions and generally
ends up with mushed carrots rather than his purported
"whirled peas". If Barry were a kitchen appliance
he would most closely resemble a
garburator.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

2013-10-23 Thread Michael Jackson

I agree with his assessment - I think you take issue with it just cuz you don't
like Barry

On Wed, 10/23/13, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target
audience
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 23, 2013, 1:33 PM

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
wrote:

http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10

[FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

Wow, powerful documentary. Just goes to show, Satan (temptation) is everywhere, 
even Jesus himself was tempted by Satan, but never succumbed, "Get thee behind 
me Satan", he said. 

 Here's the Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6dc449jec 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6dc449jec

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Correction. Now that I'm paying more attention to the French, I
 should say that most of the people "speaking" in the documentary
 in sign language are students who were formerly abused by the
 priests, not necessarily monks who had taken a vow of silence.
 The students were deaf, you see, and the priests thought that
 speaking only in sign language they'd never be able to convince
 anyone what had happened to them.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
"TurquoiseB" wrote:
 >
 > Watching this documentary tonight, in French although the original was
 > in English. Very powerful, and very disturbing. It's about sexual
 abuse
 > within the Catholic Church, told beautifully and heart-breakingly. The
 > film won three Primetime Emmy awards, and won top honors at the
 British
 > Film Institute Awards and the Irish Film and Television Awards.
 >
 > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/reference 
 > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/reference
 >
 >
 > Worse than the sexual abuse is the conspiracy of silence that strove
 to
 > hide it. Much of the film is "narrated" by monks who have taken a vow
 of
 > silence. Their superiors thought that they were "safe," and that their
 > vows would keep them silent. They forgot sign language.
 >

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Maybe that's just what happens when a guy spends thousands of dollars, 
over a period thirteen years in one cult and gets kicked out; and then 
he joins another cult for another five years and gives thousands of 
dollars, and then he gets kicked out again; and he spent the rest of his 
adult life denying his cult activities on a spiritual discussion group, 
trying to place blame on others, and getting waxed almost every single day.

It's gotta wear you down, so that your panties get all bunched up! Go 
figure.

On 10/23/2013 8:36 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

*Two sexual fantasies so far this morning of people with their panties 
in disarray. Whatever the traumatic incident in Barry's past was 
that's now coming back to haunt him, it must have been a real doozy.*

*
*

*Maybe a yagya would help?*

I wrote:

> Er...that should be "curiouser and curiouser..."

>
> I wrote:
>
> Curioser and curioser...

*
:-)*

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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

turq, I bet most sidhas don't think their schedule is *normal.* What is normal 
anyway? 9 to 5 job? Is that what you're advocating, that everyone lead a 
*normal* life?! If yes, then I will stfu (-:

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:25 AM, Share Long  
wrote:

I have to admit I like the idea of whiled peas or wild peace, very tantric and 
thus guaranteed to get knickers and or panties either out of a twist or out of 
a bunch!

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:44 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:

Not "Whirled Peas," Ann, "Whiled Peas." Can't you read?

Barry wrote:
(snip)

> > A non-drug technique that takes only 40 minutes per day and could help to 
> > lower stress levels is
> > marketable. A Woo Woo "gateway drug" that only seeks to hook people on a 
> > path to spending several
> > hours of their day bouncing on their butts with other people to create 
> > Whiled Peas is not. Just sayin'...

Ann wrote:
> As usual, Barry misses entirely the point of his own post. In addition, he 
> makes up random shit, comes to
> erroneous conclusions and generally ends up with mushed carrots rather than 
> his purported "whirled
> peas". If Barry were a kitchen appliance he would most closely resemble a 
> garburator.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

I have to admit I like the idea of whiled peas or wild peace, very tantric and 
thus guaranteed to get knickers and or panties either out of a twist or out of 
a bunch!





On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:44 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Not "Whirled Peas," Ann, "Whiled Peas." Can't you read?

Barry wrote:
(snip)

> > A non-drug technique that takes only 40 minutes per day and could help to 
> > lower stress levels is
> > marketable. A Woo Woo "gateway drug" that only seeks to hook people on a 
> > path to spending several
> > hours of their day bouncing on their butts with other people to create 
> > Whiled Peas is not. Just sayin'...


Ann wrote:
> As usual, Barry misses entirely the point of his own post. In addition, he 
> makes up random shit, comes to
> erroneous conclusions and generally ends up with mushed carrots rather than 
> his purported "whirled
> peas". If Barry were a kitchen appliance he would most closely resemble a 
> garburator.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Arabs descendants of Ishmael??

It's probably a mistake to think of the Bible version of 'Abrahma' or 
'Ishmael' as factual history. And it doesn't explain why Shiites are in 
Iran and Sunnis are in Saudi Arabia. Putting the blame on an old Hag 
doesn't explain much either. Go figure.


We don't really know much about the Biblical Abraham or where he came 
from or when. We do know that there may have been an Abraham after the 
domestication of camels.


So, the Bible stories came after the Sumerians and the Indus Valley 
civilization. The entire Levant is probably Hindu influenced - not for 
nothing did they call him 'Abrahm' and her, 'Sarai".


But, in fact, there is no historical 'Abraham' or 'Sarah' who came from 
Ur or Mari; its just a story meant to illustrate a political point. 
There are many myths surrounding the person of 'Abraham'. The question 
is: "Did Hindus help write the Bible?


Read more:

"False testament: archaeology refutes the Bible's claim to history"
by Daniel Lazare
Harper's Magazine
March 2002

Titles of interest:

"Unearthing the Bible"
by Israel Finklestein and Neil Asher Siberman
The Free Press, 2001

"The Mythic Past"
by Thomas L. Thompson
Basic Books, 2001
On 10/22/2013 6:48 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Mike,


That family karma is about right.  If the NT prophecy is right, 
Armageddon is supposed to start in the Palestine area.  This is 
probably the main reason why Christians in the USA are favoring the 
Israelis over the Arabs in the area.   They want the Rapture to come 
and to witness the Second Coming of Jesus.



But there is still the question of fairness in the land of Palestine. 
 President Jimmy Carter has been making the point for the past few 
years that the Palestinians have the right to have sovereignty over 
their own land.  Americans and the rest of the world need to know the 
inequity that is the heart of the problem in that area of the Middle East.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  
wrote:


Read the story of Abraham. Ishmael was Abraham's first born son but 
his mother was Hagar, an Egyptian maid servant of Abraham's wife, 
Sarah. Sarah later became pregnant with Isaac. Isaac received the 
blessings and inheritance of Abraham and the Fit hit the shan. 
Supposedly Hagar and Ishmael were jealous and trouble makers and Sarah 
insisted that Abraham banish them to keep the *peace*. Family karma.



On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:01 AM, "jr_esq@..."  wrote:
I've read similar information about the relationship between Jews and 
Arabs.  But one wonders why they're continually fighting each other if 
they're genetically related.  Is it due to karma?



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Are all Arabs descendants of Ishmael, the son of Abraham and Sara's 
Egyptian

slave Hagar ("uncertain")?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelites

Maqrizi  says that Moses 
 wiped out almost all 
non-Ishmaelite Arabs such as Amaleq 
 and Midianites 
,^[14] 
  and by the 
time of Muhammad all Arabs were descendents of Ishmael according to 
historians Hisham Ibn Al-Kalbi 
 and al-Sharqi who 
believed that all Arabs were descendents of Ishmael including the 
Qahtanites.^[15]

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Arabs descendants of Ishmael??

Armageddon, or the final battle between Good and Evil, takes place in the human 
consciousness. It is the very battle talked about in the Bhagavad Gita. 
"Ignorance is so thick in the world you could cut it with a knife", Jerry 
Jarvis (paraphrased).

 These profits are clueless, life will continue on for millions of years yet to 
come until the end of the Manvantara, (duration of a Manu).

 The second coming will be the dawning in the consciousness of man of the 
'Christ Consciousness', not some reappearance of the man named Jesus.

 Christ here being one and the same as Krishna Consciousness or MMY's God 
consciousness. Jesus and Yadava Krishna were merely humans (avatars) carrying 
that great consciousness within them, just like you and me can do as well, in 
time.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Michael,

 Here's a Pastor David Pack who explains briefly the sources for the prophecy 
of Armageddon.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShEoyPcGMrk 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShEoyPcGMrk 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Jr. Not just New Testament prophesy but Old Testament as well. See the books 
of Daniel and Ezekial as well, not sure of the other prophets..

 On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:57 PM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:

   John, as you know--don't you?--this is only a relatively small segment of 
American Christians who are into the Rapture and Armageddon and so on. You 
really shouldn't use the term "Christians" without some qualification, as if 
what you were describing applied to all Christians in the country. A lot of 
liberal Christians are on the side of the Palestinians against Israel, for 
instance.

 John wrote:
 (snip)

 > That family karma is about right.  If the NT prophecy is right, Armageddon 
 > is supposed to start in the
 > Palestine area.  This is probably the main reason why Christians in the USA 
 > are favoring the Israelis
 > over the Arabs in the area.   They want the Rapture to come and to witness 
 > the Second Coming of
 > Jesus.

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Not "Whirled Peas," Ann, "Whiled Peas." Can't you read?
 

 Barry wrote:
 (snip)
 > > A non-drug technique that takes only 40 minutes per day and could help to 
 > > lower stress levels is
 > > marketable. A Woo Woo "gateway drug" that only seeks to hook people on a 
 > > path to spending several
 > > hours of their day bouncing on their butts with other people to create 
 > > Whiled Peas is not. Just sayin'...

 

 Ann wrote:
 > As usual, Barry misses entirely the point of his own post. In addition, he 
 > makes up random shit, comes to
 > erroneous conclusions and generally ends up with mushed carrots rather than 
 > his purported "whirled
 > peas". If Barry were a kitchen appliance he would most closely resemble a 
 > garburator.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Two sexual fantasies so far this morning of people with their panties in 
disarray. Whatever the traumatic incident in Barry's past was that's now coming 
back to haunt him, it must have been a real doozy.

 Maybe a yagya would help?

I wrote:

 > Er...that should be "curiouser and curiouser..." 
 > 
> I wrote: 
> 
> Curioser and curioser...

:-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

Just a note of caution to those who still believe that "If we charge
more/less/enough for TM, they will come," *they* in this case being the untold
millions you think are required to make the world a better place and who are
out there, just waiting for the right TM marketing approach. Consider who
you're talking to, and what *they* believe.

The latest Gallup poll doesn't seem to indicate that John Q. American Public is
quite on the same wavelength that you are. 58% of them probably wouldn't make
it through the "15 day waiting period." The legalization of marijuana has five
times the number of supporters as Congress does. 63% are unthreatened by
homosexual behavior, and 53% believe that same-sex marriage should be
legalized. The more-puritan-than-the-Puritans lifestyle ethic of many die-hard
TMers just doesn't map to the way that most Americans see the world.

http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10

Me, I find these Gallup findings positive, and hopeful, because they're
*pragmatic*, and on the whole they seem to indicate that Americans aren't quite
the hyper-conservative know-nothings that the Tea Party and others would have
you believe they are. But such pragmatism is not gonna be appealed to by Woo
Woo propaganda about how many Yogic Flyers can butt-bounce on the head of a pin
made of polystyrene foam, and how that's gonna magically create Whirled Peas.

The thing that would make TM "marketable" again IMO would be a return to the
more pragmatic approach of the late 60s, in which it was marketed as a simple
relaxation technique that would help to make you less stressed and more
productive in your real-world activities. Nobody gives a shit about
enlightenment; if the Gallup organization polled for that one, my bet is that
the percentage of people they'd find who believe it exists wouldn't crack two
digits, and the number who would actually pay money for it would be a fraction
of that.

As usual, Barry misses entirely the point of his own post. In addition, he
makes up random shit, comes to erroneous conclusions and generally ends up with
mushed carrots rather than his purported "whirled peas". If Barry were a
kitchen appliance he would most closely resemble a garburator.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Er...that should be "curiouser and curiouser..."
>
> I wrote:
>
>  Curioser and curioser...




:-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Er...that should be "curiouser and curiouser..."
 
I wrote:

 Curioser and curioser...

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Curioser and curioser...
 
Barry wrote:

 > My point is that the "marketing approach" of the TMO is that of
> cultists, while pitching their product to non-cultists. Many (including
> some of this forum) seem to equate "TMers" with "TM-Sidhas practicing in
> a group."
 

 Who on this forum does that?
 

 > They seem to believe that the leap from 20 minutes twice a day
> and an average of four hours per day (including travel time) is "No
> Biggie," and that everyone that wants to learn TM wants to learn to
> butt-bounce and spend that much time away from their real life, too.
 

 Anybody here believe this?
 
> I'm merely pointing out that this is an assumption made by people who
> *themselves* in most cases gravitated to the four-hours-a-day lifestyle
> after *decades* of indoctrination by the TM movement.
 

 Probably not nearly as long as "decades."
 

 > They've actually come to believe that such a schedule is "normal."
 

 Anybody here believe this?
 
> It ain't. And very few people who have...uh...lives will see it that
> way, either. They *might* be open to learning a simple,
> 20-minutes-twice-a-day relaxation technique, but if the first thing that
> happens when they go to a TM center for their followup is that people
> start hustling them to learn the Sidhis and do them in a group, they're
> gonna smell cult.
 

 Is that "the first thing that happens"? And even if it were, they've already
 learned the technique, and they know they can just go off and do it on
 their own for 20 minutes twice a day without engaging in any cult-like
 activities.
 

 So what's the problem? What does any of this have to do with how basic
 TM is marketed?

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Michael wrote:

 
 > As Egghead (played by Vincent Price) used to say "This is Egg-cellent!"
 

 Well, it isn't, actually. See my comments in another post. Looks like Barry
 hadn't had his coffee yet when he wrote it, because he wasn't making much
 sense.
 

 Barry wrote:
 > > Just a note of caution to those who still believe
> > that "If we charge more/less/enough for TM, they will
> > come," *they* in this case being the untold millions
> > you think are required to make the world a better place and
> > who are out there, just waiting for the right TM marketing
> > approach. Consider who you're talking to, and what
> > *they* believe.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Barry wrote:

 > Just a note of caution to those who still believe that "If we charge 
 > more/less/enough for TM, they will come,"
 > *they* in this case being the untold millions you think are required to make 
 > the world a better place

 Actually if you're talking about plain-vanilla TM, it would be 1 percent of 
the world population, so hardly "untold," eh? We do have a pretty good idea of 
the size of the population. And if you're talking about the TM-Sidhis, 1 
percent of the square root of the population, so not even 1 million.

 > and who are out there, 

 As opposed to "in here"?

 > just waiting for the right TM marketing approach.

 > Consider who you're talking to, and what *they* believe.
 >
> The latest Gallup poll doesn't seem to indicate that John Q. American Public 
> is quite on the same
 > wavelength that you are.

 Well, depending on who "you" is...

 > 58% of them probably wouldn't make it through the "15 day waiting period."

 I think you have the number of people who believe weed should be legal (shown 
on the chart) confused with the number who partake of it (not shown on the 
chart), first of all; but actually most of those who do use it wouldn't have 
any problem abstaining for two weeks. It's not addictive, you know.

 > The legalization of marijuana has five times the number of supporters as 
 > Congress does. 63% are
 > unthreatened by homosexual behavior, and 53% believe that same-sex marriage 
 > should be legalized. The
 > more-puritan-than-the-Puritans lifestyle ethic of many die-hard TMers just 
 > doesn't map to the way that most
 > Americans see the world. 

 Probably not, but of course such a mapping wouldn't be needed. You don't have 
to have any particular "lifestyle ethic" to practice TM and benefit from it.

http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10

http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10

> Me, I find these Gallup findings positive, and hopeful, because they're 
> *pragmatic*, and on the whole they
 > seem to indicate that Americans aren't quite the hyper-conservative 
 > know-nothings that the Tea Party and
 > others would have you believe they are. But such pragmatism is not gonna be 
 > appealed to by Woo Woo
 > propaganda about how many Yogic Flyers can butt-bounce on the head of a pin 
 > made of polystyrene
 > foam, and how that's gonna magically create Whirled Peas.

 Is that how TM is marketed these days? Or is it still marketed pretty much as 
it always has been, as you go on to describe?

> The thing that would make TM "marketable" again IMO would be a return to the 
> more pragmatic approach
 > of the late 60s, in which it was marketed as a simple relaxation technique 
 > that would help to make you less
 > stressed and more productive in your real-world activities.

 > Nobody gives a shit about enlightenment; if the Gallup organization polled 
 > for that one, my bet is that the

 > percentage of people they'd find who believe it exists wouldn't crack two 
 > digits, and the number who would
 > actually pay money for it would be a fraction of that.

 Hasn't that always been the case?

 If you look at the home page ot tm.org, something like 95 percent of it has to 
do with less stress, greater productivity, and better health. Nothing about 
world peace. Enlightenment is mentioned unobtrusively only at the very bottom, 
and when you click on that, you get a quote from Maharishi that includes this:

 "Even if we forget about ‘enlightenment’ for a moment — maybe that state seems 
to be inconceivable — still it is our daily experience that the whole value of 
life is very little if we are tired, if we are stressed."

 You need to think this all through a little better, Barry, get the kinks out. 
You've made a bunch of rather strange assumptions above. Current TM marketing 
appears to be very much in line with what you suggest already. The discussion 
here has been about the most effective "price point."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Ok, but is the TMO marketing focused on the sidhis or on relaxation and 
creativity? I would think the latter given that DL is front and center. But I 
am out of the TMO loops and have not been to an intro recently so am speaking 
from educated guess rather than experience.

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 7:05 AM, TurquoiseB  wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> turq, I'm encouraged by these Gallup findings and I'm
> sure a lot of long term TMers would be also. The ones
> I know are practical, intelligent and compassionate.
> Also I bet a lot of people would love to know about
> and do something for world peace. Maybe whirled
> peas too (-:

My point is that the "marketing approach" of the TMO is that of
cultists, while pitching their product to non-cultists. Many (including
some of this forum) seem to equate "TMers" with "TM-Sidhas practicing in
a group." They seem to believe that the leap from 20 minutes twice a day
and an average of four hours per day (including travel time) is "No
Biggie," and that everyone that wants to learn TM wants to learn to
butt-bounce and spend that much time away from their real life, too.

I'm merely pointing out that this is an assumption made by people who
*themselves* in most cases gravitated to the four-hours-a-day lifestyle
after *decades* of indoctrination by the TM movement. They've actually
come to believe that such a schedule is "normal."

It ain't. And very few people who have...uh...lives will see it that
way, either. They *might* be open to learning a simple,
20-minutes-twice-a-day relaxation technique, but if the first thing that
happens when they go to a TM center for their followup is that people
start hustling them to learn the Sidhis and do them in a group, they're
gonna smell cult.

> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
>
>  Just a note of caution to those who still believe that "If we charge
more/less/enough for TM, they will come," *they* in this case being the
untold millions you think are required to make the world a better place
and who are out there, just waiting for the right TM marketing approach.
Consider who you're talking to, and what *they* believe.
>
> The latest Gallup poll doesn't seem to indicate that John Q. American
Public is quite on the same wavelength that you are. 58% of them
probably wouldn't make it through the "15 day waiting period." The
legalization of marijuana has five times the number of supporters as
Congress does. 63% are unthreatened by homosexual behavior, and 53%
believe that same-sex marriage should be legalized. The
more-puritan-than-the-Puritans lifestyle ethic of many die-hard TMers
just doesn't map to the way that most Americans see the world.
>
>
>
http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-th\
an-almost-anything-else-2013-10
http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-th\
an-almost-anything-else-2013-10
>
> Me, I find these Gallup findings positive, and hopeful, because
they're *pragmatic*, and on the whole they seem to indicate that
Americans aren't quite the hyper-conservative know-nothings that the Tea
Party and others would have you believe they are. But such pragmatism is
not gonna be appealed to by Woo Woo propaganda about how many Yogic
Flyers can butt-bounce on the head of a pin made of polystyrene foam,
and how that's gonna magically create Whirled Peas.
>
> The thing that would make TM "marketable" again IMO would be a return
to the more pragmatic approach of the late 60s, in which it was marketed
as a simple relaxation technique that would help to make you less
stressed and more productive in your real-world activities. Nobody gives
a shit about enlightenment; if the Gallup organization polled for that
one, my bet is that the percentage of people they'd find who believe it
exists wouldn't crack two digits, and the number who would actually pay
money for it would be a fraction of that.
>
> A non-drug technique that takes only 40 minutes per day and could help
to lower stress levels is marketable. A Woo Woo "gateway drug" that only
seeks to hook people on a path to spending several hours of their day
bouncing on their butts with other people to create Whiled Peas is not.
Just sayin'...
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> turq, I'm encouraged by these Gallup findings and I'm
> sure a lot of long term TMers would be also. The ones
> I know are practical, intelligent and compassionate.
> Also I bet a lot of people would love to know about
> and do something for world peace. Maybe whirled
> peas too (-:

My point is that the "marketing approach" of the TMO is that of
cultists, while pitching their product to non-cultists. Many (including
some of this forum) seem to equate "TMers" with "TM-Sidhas practicing in
a group." They seem to believe that the leap from 20 minutes twice a day
and an average of four hours per day (including travel time) is "No
Biggie," and that everyone that wants to learn TM wants to learn to
butt-bounce and spend that much time away from their real life, too.

I'm merely pointing out that this is an assumption made by people who
*themselves* in most cases gravitated to the four-hours-a-day lifestyle
after *decades* of indoctrination by the TM movement. They've actually
come to believe that such a schedule is "normal."

It ain't. And very few people who have...uh...lives will see it that
way, either. They *might* be open to learning a simple,
20-minutes-twice-a-day relaxation technique, but if the first thing that
happens when they go to a TM center for their followup is that people
start hustling them to learn the Sidhis and do them in a group, they're
gonna smell cult.


> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
>
>  Just a note of caution to those who still believe that "If we charge
more/less/enough for TM, they will come," *they* in this case being the
untold millions you think are required to make the world a better place
and who are out there, just waiting for the right TM marketing approach.
Consider who you're talking to, and what *they* believe.
>
> The latest Gallup poll doesn't seem to indicate that John Q. American
Public is quite on the same wavelength that you are. 58% of them
probably wouldn't make it through the "15 day waiting period." The
legalization of marijuana has five times the number of supporters as
Congress does. 63% are unthreatened by homosexual behavior, and 53%
believe that same-sex marriage should be legalized. The
more-puritan-than-the-Puritans lifestyle ethic of many die-hard TMers
just doesn't map to the way that most Americans see the world.
>
>
>
http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-th\
an-almost-anything-else-2013-10
http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-th\
an-almost-anything-else-2013-10
>
> Me, I find these Gallup findings positive, and hopeful, because
they're *pragmatic*, and on the whole they seem to indicate that
Americans aren't quite the hyper-conservative know-nothings that the Tea
Party and others would have you believe they are. But such pragmatism is
not gonna be appealed to by Woo Woo propaganda about how many Yogic
Flyers can butt-bounce on the head of a pin made of polystyrene foam,
and how that's gonna magically create Whirled Peas.
>
> The thing that would make TM "marketable" again IMO would be a return
to the more pragmatic approach of the late 60s, in which it was marketed
as a simple relaxation technique that would help to make you less
stressed and more productive in your real-world activities. Nobody gives
a shit about enlightenment; if the Gallup organization polled for that
one, my bet is that the percentage of people they'd find who believe it
exists wouldn't crack two digits, and the number who would actually pay
money for it would be a fraction of that.
>
> A non-drug technique that takes only 40 minutes per day and could help
to lower stress levels is marketable. A Woo Woo "gateway drug" that only
seeks to hook people on a path to spending several hours of their day
bouncing on their butts with other people to create Whiled Peas is not.
Just sayin'...
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

(testing) turq, I'm encouraged by these Gallup findings and I'm sure a lot of 
long term TMers would be also. The ones I know are practical, intelligent 
and compassionate. Also I bet a lot of people would love to know about 
and do something for world peace. Maybe whirled peas too (-: 

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 6:47 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:

Uh-oh. Barry's having another one of his sexual fantasies about people in 
twisted panties.

Barry wrote:

doctordumbass wrote:

>
>> Have you been smoking weed, again? :-) 
>> 
>>  Who gives a shit, about who gives a shit, about TM? 
>> What's the issue? What's the problem? 
>> 
>>  Some people find TM the bees knees, and some couldn't 
>> care less about it. 
>> 
>>  Your point, please?  Are you actually trying to increase 
>> the marketing potential of TM? 
>
>

Unless the "one" is Supposedly Enlightened, I guess.  :-)  :-)  :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

Uh-oh. Barry's having another one of his sexual fantasies about people in 
twisted panties.

Barry wrote:

 doctordumbass wrote:
 >
> Have you been smoking weed, again? :-) 
> 
> Who gives a shit, about who gives a shit, about TM? 
> What's the issue? What's the problem? 
> 
> Some people find TM the bees knees, and some couldn't 
> care less about it. 
> 
> Your point, please? Are you actually trying to increase 
> the marketing potential of TM? 

Unless the "one" is Supposedly Enlightened, I guess.  :-)  :-)  :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

turq, I'm encouraged by these Gallup findings and I'm sure a lot of long term
TMers would be also. The ones I know are practical, intelligent and
compassionate. Also I bet a lot of people would love to know about and do
something for world peace. Maybe whirled peas too (-:

On Tue, 10/22/13, TurquoiseB wrote:

Subject: [FairfieldLife] Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2013, 11:40 PM

Just a note of caution to those who still believe
that "If we charge more/less/enough for TM, they will
come," *they* in this case being the untold millions
you think are required to make the world a better place and
who are out there, just waiting for the right TM marketing
approach. Consider who you're talking to, and what
*they* believe.

http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10

[FairfieldLife] RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

2013-10-23 Thread sharelong60

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

Just a note of caution to those who still believe that "If we charge
more/less/enough for TM, they will come," *they* in this case being the untold
millions you think are required to make the world a better place and who are
out there, just waiting for the right TM marketing approach. Consider who
you're talking to, and what *they* believe.

The latest Gallup poll doesn't seem to indicate that John Q. American Public is
quite on the same wavelength that you are. 58% of them probably wouldn't make
it through the "15 day waiting period." The legalization of marijuana has five
times the number of supporters as Congress does. 63% are unthreatened by
homosexual behavior, and 53% believe that same-sex marriage should be
legalized. The more-puritan-than-the-Puritans lifestyle ethic of many die-hard
TMers just doesn't map to the way that most Americans see the world.

http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10

Me, I find these Gallup findings positive, and hopeful, because they're
*pragmatic*, and on the whole they seem to indicate that Americans aren't quite
the hyper-conservative know-nothings that the Tea Party and others would have
you believe they are. But such pragmatism is not gonna be appealed to by Woo
Woo propaganda about how many Yogic Flyers can butt-bounce on the head of a pin
made of polystyrene foam, and how that's gonna magically create Whirled Peas.

The thing that would make TM "marketable" again IMO would be a return to the
more pragmatic approach of the late 60s, in which it was marketed as a simple
relaxation technique that would help to make you less stressed and more
productive in your real-world activities. Nobody gives a shit about
enlightenment; if the Gallup organization polled for that one, my bet is that
the percentage of people they'd find who believe it exists wouldn't crack two
digits, and the number who would actually pay money for it would be a fraction
of that.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

2013-10-23 Thread sharelong60

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

Just a note of caution to those who still believe that "If we charge
more/less/enough for TM, they will come," *they* in this case being the untold
millions you think are required to make the world a better place and who are
out there, just waiting for the right TM marketing approach. Consider who
you're talking to, and what *they* believe.

The latest Gallup poll doesn't seem to indicate that John Q. American Public is
quite on the same wavelength that you are. 58% of them probably wouldn't make
it through the "15 day waiting period." The legalization of marijuana has five
times the number of supporters as Congress does. 63% are unthreatened by
homosexual behavior, and 53% believe that same-sex marriage should be
legalized. The more-puritan-than-the-Puritans lifestyle ethic of many die-hard
TMers just doesn't map to the way that most Americans see the world.

http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10

Me, I find these Gallup findings positive, and hopeful, because they're
*pragmatic*, and on the whole they seem to indicate that Americans aren't quite
the hyper-conservative know-nothings that the Tea Party and others would have
you believe they are. But such pragmatism is not gonna be appealed to by Woo
Woo propaganda about how many Yogic Flyers can butt-bounce on the head of a pin
made of polystyrene foam, and how that's gonna magically create Whirled Peas.

The thing that would make TM "marketable" again IMO would be a return to the
more pragmatic approach of the late 60s, in which it was marketed as a simple
relaxation technique that would help to make you less stressed and more
productive in your real-world activities. Nobody gives a shit about
enlightenment; if the Gallup organization polled for that one, my bet is that
the percentage of people they'd find who believe it exists wouldn't crack two
digits, and the number who would actually pay money for it would be a fraction
of that.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

2013-10-23 Thread Michael Jackson

As Egghead (played by Vincent Price) used to say "This is Egg-cellent!"

On Wed, 10/23/13, TurquoiseB wrote:

Subject: [FairfieldLife] Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 23, 2013, 4:40 AM

Just a note of caution to those who still believe
that "If we charge more/less/enough for TM, they will
come," *they* in this case being the untold millions
you think are required to make the world a better place and
who are out there, just waiting for the right TM marketing
approach. Consider who you're talking to, and what
*they* believe.

http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10

[FairfieldLife] Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Have you been smoking weed, again? :-)
>
>  Who gives a shit, about who gives a shit, about TM?
> What's the issue? What's the problem?
>
>  Some people find TM the bees knees, and some couldn't
> care less about it.
>
>  Your point, please?  Are you actually trying to increase
> the marketing potential of TM?



Unless the "one" is Supposedly Enlightened, I guess.  :-)  :-)  :-)


> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
>
>  Just a note of caution to those who still believe that "If we charge
more/less/enough for TM, they will come," *they* in this case being the
untold millions you think are required to make the world a better place
and who are out there, just waiting for the right TM marketing approach.
Consider who you're talking to, and what *they* believe.
>
> The latest Gallup poll doesn't seem to indicate that John Q. American
Public is quite on the same wavelength that you are. 58% of them
probably wouldn't make it through the "15 day waiting period." The
legalization of marijuana has five times the number of supporters as
Congress does. 63% are unthreatened by homosexual behavior, and 53%
believe that same-sex marriage should be legalized. The
more-puritan-than-the-Puritans lifestyle ethic of many die-hard TMers
just doesn't map to the way that most Americans see the world.
>
>
>
http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-th\
an-almost-anything-else-2013-10
http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-th\
an-almost-anything-else-2013-10
>
> Me, I find these Gallup findings positive, and hopeful, because
they're *pragmatic*, and on the whole they seem to indicate that
Americans aren't quite the hyper-conservative know-nothings that the Tea
Party and others would have you believe they are. But such pragmatism is
not gonna be appealed to by Woo Woo propaganda about how many Yogic
Flyers can butt-bounce on the head of a pin made of polystyrene foam,
and how that's gonna magically create Whirled Peas.
>
> The thing that would make TM "marketable" again IMO would be a return
to the more pragmatic approach of the late 60s, in which it was marketed
as a simple relaxation technique that would help to make you less
stressed and more productive in your real-world activities. Nobody gives
a shit about enlightenment; if the Gallup organization polled for that
one, my bet is that the percentage of people they'd find who believe it
exists wouldn't crack two digits, and the number who would actually pay
money for it would be a fraction of that.
>
> A non-drug technique that takes only 40 minutes per day and could help
to lower stress levels is marketable. A Woo Woo "gateway drug" that only
seeks to hook people on a path to spending several hours of their day
bouncing on their butts with other people to create Whiled Peas is not.
Just sayin'...
>

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[FairfieldLife] RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience