[FairfieldLife] A short break from all the cult apologetics and mean girl sniping
This one goes out to the misogynist asshole who used to post here (I forget his name) who used to claim that women martial artists were pussies who couldn't hold their own in a real fight against "real men." Meet Chloe Bruce, who demos what martial arts can look like without the CGI and the wires and mirrors. The Best Of Chloe Bruce - The Perfect Human The Best Of Chloe Bruce - The Perfect Human View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Sal wrote: A better question for you to ask would be, why doesn't it happen to everyone if reincarnation is a common occurrence? Why to so very few? Maybe for the same reason we often don't remember our dreams after awakening. I mean to answer that aside from something like, "the process is set up that way, because a recall of that nature could likely disruptive to one's present life". Aside from that, I would say the birth process is a somewhat traumatic event, which is followed a tremendous amount of sensory input, as we become accustomed to the new world we are born into. All of that would likely overshadow the memory of a previous life. Seems to me that's the same as it would be if there wasn't any reincarnation. The "process being set up that way" is one of those convenient extra's you need to make it work. Who or what set it up? My main questions are, where do the souls come from? There are twice as many people as there were 20-odd years ago. Do we get an upgraded animal soul? That might explain behaviour at football matches but how did it get started in the first place. If there isn't a ready soul when you are born does a new one get made for you? Finally, how can we measure them? They must be measurable if they control what happens in our heads, or even just interact in some/any way. It always seems to me the essence of a poor theory is when it raises more questions than it answers. That isn't "denial" I'm just waiting to be convinced. One of the major stories I know of like that is of a Scottish boy who said he came from an island where planes land on the beach. It turns out there is one, called Barra. His family claimed there was no way he could have known but even when they were being interviewed there was a TV on in the background. The most recent incident I recall is that of small child (American) recalling a memory of being a fighter pilot in WW2, IIRC. There didn't appear to be any mitigating factors such as the type you mention. Apart from the fact they live in a culture where WW2 is mentioned daily on TV. It's hard to be sure about things like this. But I have heard fascinating stories, you have to remember that they aren't studied by anyone objective, people might have their own reasons for blurring what happened with what they want to be true. It's a known problem with paranormal research that when faced with with something unexpected the imagination can run riot and people create all sorts of apparently convincing stories out of meagre data. It's the pattern recognition part of our minds that makes 1 + 1 sometimes equal 37. I'm all for getting scientific about things like this but they are extremely rare and so not easy to test. Basically you have to iron out the possibility of them picking the information up anywhere else. The plural of anecdote really isn't data, I've yet to see a story like this that has reliable facts that are certain not to have been isolated from the child. These stories appear in the mainstream media periodically, and there are also a number of instances that have been documented elsewhere. I am sorry I can't give you a reference for those. I am sure many of the stories are false, but enough of them seem able to survive the scrutiny to which they are subjected. And like a lot of beliefs about the mind it lacks any known mechanism about how it might work, which doesn't mean it can't but it would also have to explain why it works so rarely. Tricky for something physical. If that's what it is. Everyone dreams for instance. I imagine that it would be anomalies such a these that might be able to puncture a hole in belief that these things are just a fabrication of the mind. Certainly I recommend subjecting these accounts to a rigorous examination. Seems to me that knowledge of previous lives would be immensely useful, why do we forget it? Why do you think it would be so helpful? I think it could be counter productive. Putting it in an evolutionary context, the vast majority of people that ever lived were hunter gatherers. I think it would be highly useful to automatically know how to find water, how to avoid leopards etc. we are born as we are with minimal instincts and mental development (compared to other animals) because evolution favoured a more sophisticated culture which our brains need to learn from our parents. Any extra help would make this so much easier surely? Nowadays, if evolution were known to be true we still had the skill and remembered everything we could bury a pot of cash and pick it up in our next life. Or get revenge on whoever it was that ran us over thus ending this one. You might say it just isn't set up to work like that but you'd just be multiplying entities beyond neccessity again. Occams razor. Anyway the burden of proof is always on the people with r
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
From: Richard J. Williams To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 3:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God? On 4/19/2014 6:09 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: > I just laugh at your obsession with using poor dead Fred as a baseball > bat to hit Barry over the head with. Yes, it is funny - I use poor dead Fred as a baseball bat every time Barry uses poor dead Marshy as a baseball. LoL! At least Richard can admit to being a cultist, and to what triggers his use of cult tactics.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai FFL!
Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment. And, Why TM teachers cannot get Shankara's teachings: Jai Guru Dev, These are fantastic posts. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/380831 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/380831 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/380891 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/380891 I been out building fence and seeding pastures and such these last few days, and am way behind reading here on FFL. These two experiential spiritual posts to FFL really speak to where the Fairfield, Iowa meditating community has gone, experiential-ly. There is a lot of illumined folks here now in Fairfield that have gone on working on this very material. Victory! Go in to the coffee shops or to the various satsanga here and this is evidently is where the old TM meditating community has gone. Some of you who have not been around ought to come and hang out with the illumined here and see what this is. You all may think and carp here about TM but it is way more than that here. I got to back up later and read these again once the sun goes down again, these are really good checkings to things spiritual like a good satsanga potentially could give. Jai FFL! More spring field work to do before the sun goes down, -Buck on the Range
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Ahh, but the metaphysical answer is that if you were still cognizant of who and what you were in that last incarnation, you would still be enamored or obsessed with the places and people you were with then, so that would interfere with getting on with your current life. Goodness knows we would't want that - there are so many things to be "enamored or obsessed" with in this life. Who'd have the time? On Sat, 4/19/14, salyavin808 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, April 19, 2014, 5:46 PM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And that is why I replied to Barry's request. But then I was accused of pestering him to reply to me. But yes Richard, that is the issue that I think atheists don't want to go near. They are better off staying in full denial, and passing off incidents that defy an easy explanation as just some sort of weird coincidence. "Science works in mysterious ways" or at least there is some scientific explanation for this or that occurrence, but the science has not progressed sufficiently to explain it. How do we explain things like a child being obsessed with events that took place before he was born, and knowing details about such events when he has had no exposure to them. How does something like that occur? A better question for you to ask would be, why doesn't it happen to everyone if reincarnation is a common occurrence? Why to so very few? One of the major stories I know of like that is of a Scottish boy who said he came from an island where planes land on the beach. It turns out there is one, called Barra. His family claimed there was no way he could have known but even when they were being interviewed there was a TV on in the background. I'm all for getting scientific about things like this but they are extremely rare and so not easy to test. Basically you have to iron out the possibility of them picking the information up anywhere else. The plural of anecdote really isn't data, I've yet to see a story like this that has reliable facts that are certain not to have been isolated from the child. And like a lot of beliefs about the mind it lacks any known mechanism about how it might work, which doesn't mean it can't but it would also have to explain why it works so rarely. Tricky for something physical. If that's what it is. Everyone dreams for instance. Seems to me that knowledge of previous lives would be immensely useful, why do we forget it?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
On 4/19/2014 6:09 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: > I just laugh at your obsession with using poor dead Fred as a baseball > bat to hit Barry over the head with. > Yes, it is funny - I use poor dead Fred as a baseball bat every time Barry uses poor dead Marshy as a baseball. LoL! --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Mother India -- "Take your poo to the loo"
On 4/19/2014 6:28 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: > You are already awareness itself and don't require some kind of > "awareness of awareness". This attempt to locate a self-reflexive > awareness is just a mental simulation of what it might be like. A > confused one at that. No wonder you are so confused. You'd be better > giving up this delusive "taza" for some mo-chao. Read it weep. > In Dogen's Zen practice, the primary realization is the *oneness* of practice-enlightenment. The practice of zazen and the experience of enlightenment are one and the same - there is no difference - no duality. Dogen is most often referring specifically to shikantaza, roughly translatable as "nothing but precisely sitting", which is a kind of sitting meditation in which the meditator sits "in a state of brightly alert attention that is free of thoughts, directed to no object, and attached to no particular content". For Dogen, the practice of zazen and the experience of enlightenment were one and the same. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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[FairfieldLife] Jai FFL!
Jai Guru Dev, These are fantastic posts. I been out building fence and seeding pastures and such these last few days, and am way behind reading here on FFL. These two experiential spiritual posts to FFL really speak to where the Fairfield, Iowa meditating community has gone, experiential-ly. There is a lot of illumined folks here now in Fairfield that have gone on working on this very material. Victory! Go in to the coffee shops or to the various satsanga here and this is evidently is where the old TM meditating community has gone. Some of you who have not been around ought to come and hang out with the illumined here and see what this is. You all may think and carp here about TM but it is way more than that here. I got to back up later and read these again once the sun goes down again, these are really good checkings to things spiritual like a good satsanga potentially could give. Jai FFL! More spring field work to do before the sun goes down, -Buck on the Range
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Mother India -- "Take your poo to the loo"
You are already awareness itself and don't require some kind of "awareness of awareness". This attempt to locate a self-reflexive awareness is just a mental simulation of what it might be like. A confused one at that. No wonder you are so confused. You'd be better giving up this delusive "taza" for some mo-chao. Read it & weep.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
Sal wrote: A better question for you to ask would be, why doesn't it happen to everyone if reincarnation is a common occurrence? Why to so very few? Maybe for the same reason we often don't remember our dreams after awakening. I mean to answer that aside from something like, "the process is set up that way, because a recall of that nature could likely disruptive to one's present life". Aside from that, I would say the birth process is a somewhat traumatic event, which is followed a tremendous amount of sensory input, as we become accustomed to the new world we are born into. All of that would likely overshadow the memory of a previous life. One of the major stories I know of like that is of a Scottish boy who said he came from an island where planes land on the beach. It turns out there is one, called Barra. His family claimed there was no way he could have known but even when they were being interviewed there was a TV on in the background. The most recent incident I recall is that of small child (American) recalling a memory of being a fighter pilot in WW2, IIRC. There didn't appear to be any mitigating factors such as the type you mention. I'm all for getting scientific about things like this but they are extremely rare and so not easy to test. Basically you have to iron out the possibility of them picking the information up anywhere else. The plural of anecdote really isn't data, I've yet to see a story like this that has reliable facts that are certain not to have been isolated from the child. These stories appear in the mainstream media periodically, and there are also a number of instances that have been documented elsewhere. I am sorry I can't give you a reference for those. I am sure many of the stories are false, but enough of them seem able to survive the scrutiny to which they are subjected. And like a lot of beliefs about the mind it lacks any known mechanism about how it might work, which doesn't mean it can't but it would also have to explain why it works so rarely. Tricky for something physical. If that's what it is. Everyone dreams for instance. I imagine that it would be anomalies such a these that might be able to puncture a hole in belief that these things are just a fabrication of the mind. Certainly I recommend subjecting these accounts to a rigorous examination. Seems to me that knowledge of previous lives would be immensely useful, why do we forget it? Why do you think it would be so helpful? I think it could be counter productive. If it is the case that there is rebirth, I think there is something to be said for a fresh start. (-:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Babies about to hatch!
Oh, isn't she lovely! She looks like she knows something's about to happen. Maybe the chicks are beginning to tap on the shells? "I'm done, let me out of here!" Do send a post when they actually start to hatch. I'll keep checking too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I've been watching this falcon cam on a state building in Harrisburg Pa. since about March 20th. The mother Peregrine has been incubating four eggs since then. They are due to hatch any day now. http://www.pacast.com/players/falcon.asp
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
Do you think he would have known the difference? AnyhooI just laugh at your obsession with using poor dead Fred as a baseball bat to hit Barry over the head with. Are you getting the mileage you are looking for? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 4/19/2014 1:04 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Re: "Rama walked on air. He appeared to glide over the desert sands as if boards with rollers were attached to his legs. His legs appeared as light beams that formed triangles at the bottom. " Richard, you are soo JELLOS! > Why should I be JELLOS of Barry? I know, deep down, you just wish you had seen this. Did you ever take hallucinogenics? If you did, and they were any good, you should be able to relate > Yes, but Barry said it was real, not a hallucination. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
Ahh, but the metaphysical answer is that if you were still cognizant of who and what you were in that last incarnation, you would still be enamored or obsessed with the places and people you were with then, so that would interfere with getting on with your current life. On Sat, 4/19/14, salyavin808 wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, April 19, 2014, 5:46 PM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And that is why I replied to Barry's request. But then I was accused of pestering him to reply to me. But yes Richard, that is the issue that I think atheists don't want to go near. They are better off staying in full denial, and passing off incidents that defy an easy explanation as just some sort of weird coincidence. "Science works in mysterious ways" or at least there is some scientific explanation for this or that occurrence, but the science has not progressed sufficiently to explain it. How do we explain things like a child being obsessed with events that took place before he was born, and knowing details about such events when he has had no exposure to them. How does something like that occur? A better question for you to ask would be, why doesn't it happen to everyone if reincarnation is a common occurrence? Why to so very few? One of the major stories I know of like that is of a Scottish boy who said he came from an island where planes land on the beach. It turns out there is one, called Barra. His family claimed there was no way he could have known but even when they were being interviewed there was a TV on in the background. I'm all for getting scientific about things like this but they are extremely rare and so not easy to test. Basically you have to iron out the possibility of them picking the information up anywhere else. The plural of anecdote really isn't data, I've yet to see a story like this that has reliable facts that are certain not to have been isolated from the child. And like a lot of beliefs about the mind it lacks any known mechanism about how it might work, which doesn't mean it can't but it would also have to explain why it works so rarely. Tricky for something physical. If that's what it is. Everyone dreams for instance. Seems to me that knowledge of previous lives would be immensely useful, why do we forget it?
[FairfieldLife] Babies about to hatch!
I've been watching this falcon cam on a state building in Harrisburg Pa. since about March 20th. The mother Peregrine has been incubating four eggs since then. They are due to hatch any day now.http://www.pacast.com/players/falcon.asp
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment.
On 4/19/2014 1:38 PM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I worked at MIU for 3 years and received one whole school year for free, tuition, room, board, the whole kit and caboodle, MA in SCI! And then they gave me a scholarship to earn the MS in Psychology! > Congratulations. If MJ had been able to follow a few simple rules and worked hard, he would have probably earned a Ph.D. in Computer Science at MUM years ago, */for free/*. He could be managing a data center in S.C., earning the big bucks. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
On 4/19/2014 1:04 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Re: "Rama walked on air. He appeared to glide over the desert sands as if boards with rollers were attached to his legs. His legs appeared as light beams that formed triangles at the bottom. " Richard, you are soo JELLOS! > Why should I be JELLOS of Barry? I know, deep down, you just wish you had seen this. Did you ever take hallucinogenics? If you did, and they were any good, you should be able to relate > Yes, but Barry said it was real, not a hallucination. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
On 4/19/2014 1:07 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: > Well, I certainly am glad that you have reduced the number of your > "special" posts to just over a hundred last week - still topping the > leader board though. > We've been pretty busy the last few weeks.. It's time consuming providing all the lurkers and the informants something to read on FFL. They are just insatiable information junkies! It's a good thing we have Rick, Buck and Share to keep us informed about the comigs and goings of TMers up there. Keep up the good work. P.S. We just got offered a free house at Ocean Shores, Grays Harbor County, Washington. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment.
Ahhh.good place to put that degree to work. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Came to the Funny Farm Lounge... On Saturday, April 19, 2014 1:44 PM, "emilymaenot@..." wrote: What did you do with the MS in Psychology? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Richard, I worked at MIU for 3 years and received one whole school year for free, tuition, room, board, the whole kit and caboodle, MA in SCI! And then they gave me a scholarship to earn the MS in Psychology! On Saturday, April 19, 2014 1:35 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 4/19/2014 1:00 PM, emilymaenot@... wrote: > It is pretty great they offered the courses for free. Glad you > availed yourself of the opportunity. > Most schools have programs for staff so they can take courses free or at a discount - it's a win-win arrangement. > I knew a janitor who worked his career at the UW and not only enjoyed > what he did, but was able to retire with enough to support he and his > wife, albeit with a little downsizing, but who cares about all the > stuff anyway. > There are always a few who really do enjoy being poor and working at menial jobs. The large majority of janitorial staff live below the poverty level. People should be encouraged to take courses at a community college in order to achieve financial independence. When it's free, there's just not much excuse to not avail yourself of some education and to try and better yourself. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment.
Came to the Funny Farm Lounge... On Saturday, April 19, 2014 1:44 PM, "emilymae...@yahoo.com" wrote: What did you do with the MS in Psychology? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Richard, I worked at MIU for 3 years and received one whole school year for free, tuition, room, board, the whole kit and caboodle, MA in SCI! And then they gave me a scholarship to earn the MS in Psychology! On Saturday, April 19, 2014 1:35 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 4/19/2014 1:00 PM, emilymaenot@... wrote: >> It is pretty great they offered the courses for free. Glad you >> availed yourself of the opportunity. >> >Most schools have programs for staff so they can take courses free or at >a discount - it's a win-win arrangement. > >> I knew a janitor who worked his career at the UW and not only enjoyed >> what he did, but was able to retire with enough to support he and his >> wife, albeit with a little downsizing, but who cares about all the >> stuff anyway. >> >There are always a few who really do enjoy being poor and working at >menial jobs. The large majority of janitorial staff live below the >poverty level. People should be encouraged to take courses at a >community college in order to achieve financial independence. When it's >free, there's just not much excuse to not avail yourself of some >education and to try and better yourself. Go figure. > >--- >This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >protection is active. >http://www.avast.com > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment.
What did you do with the MS in Psychology? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Richard, I worked at MIU for 3 years and received one whole school year for free, tuition, room, board, the whole kit and caboodle, MA in SCI! And then they gave me a scholarship to earn the MS in Psychology! On Saturday, April 19, 2014 1:35 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 4/19/2014 1:00 PM, emilymaenot@... wrote: > It is pretty great they offered the courses for free. Glad you > availed yourself of the opportunity. > Most schools have programs for staff so they can take courses free or at a discount - it's a win-win arrangement. > I knew a janitor who worked his career at the UW and not only enjoyed > what he did, but was able to retire with enough to support he and his > wife, albeit with a little downsizing, but who cares about all the > stuff anyway. > There are always a few who really do enjoy being poor and working at menial jobs. The large majority of janitorial staff live below the poverty level. People should be encouraged to take courses at a community college in order to achieve financial independence. When it's free, there's just not much excuse to not avail yourself of some education and to try and better yourself. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment.
Well, to quote Steve here as a response to your idea of "bettering yourself""And again, I feel the spiritual path is what makes life meaningful, but that path take on many forms." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 4/19/2014 1:00 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: > It is pretty great they offered the courses for free. Glad you > availed yourself of the opportunity. > Most schools have programs for staff so they can take courses free or at a discount - it's a win-win arrangement. > I knew a janitor who worked his career at the UW and not only enjoyed > what he did, but was able to retire with enough to support he and his > wife, albeit with a little downsizing, but who cares about all the > stuff anyway. > There are always a few who really do enjoy being poor and working at menial jobs. The large majority of janitorial staff live below the poverty level. People should be encouraged to take courses at a community college in order to achieve financial independence. When it's free, there's just not much excuse to not avail yourself of some education and to try and better yourself. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment.
Richard, I worked at MIU for 3 years and received one whole school year for free, tuition, room, board, the whole kit and caboodle, MA in SCI! And then they gave me a scholarship to earn the MS in Psychology! On Saturday, April 19, 2014 1:35 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 4/19/2014 1:00 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: > It is pretty great they offered the courses for free. Glad you > availed yourself of the opportunity. > Most schools have programs for staff so they can take courses free or at a discount - it's a win-win arrangement. > I knew a janitor who worked his career at the UW and not only enjoyed > what he did, but was able to retire with enough to support he and his > wife, albeit with a little downsizing, but who cares about all the > stuff anyway. > There are always a few who really do enjoy being poor and working at menial jobs. The large majority of janitorial staff live below the poverty level. People should be encouraged to take courses at a community college in order to achieve financial independence. When it's free, there's just not much excuse to not avail yourself of some education and to try and better yourself. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment.
On 4/19/2014 1:00 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: > It is pretty great they offered the courses for free. Glad you > availed yourself of the opportunity. > Most schools have programs for staff so they can take courses free or at a discount - it's a win-win arrangement. > I knew a janitor who worked his career at the UW and not only enjoyed > what he did, but was able to retire with enough to support he and his > wife, albeit with a little downsizing, but who cares about all the > stuff anyway. > There are always a few who really do enjoy being poor and working at menial jobs. The large majority of janitorial staff live below the poverty level. People should be encouraged to take courses at a community college in order to achieve financial independence. When it's free, there's just not much excuse to not avail yourself of some education and to try and better yourself. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
If Barry didn't want to dance, why did he come to the dance party? On 4/19/2014 11:11 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Barry is scared of introspection. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : With all due respect, Steve, you seem to have been infected with JudyRobinitis, and expect me to argue with you just because you want to argue. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
Well, I certainly am glad that you have reduced the number of your "special" posts to just over a hundred last week - still topping the leader board though. No shit, Sherlock. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 4/19/2014 11:29 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: They are better off staying in full denial, and passing off incidents that defy an easy explanation as just some sort of weird coincidence. > Barry posted that when Rama filled the whole lecture hall with golden light, that he wasn't all that impressed - he figured it was just another guy who could do cool things with light. So, when was the last time you witnessed ANYONE levitating, surrounded by a bright golden light? Instead of denying this incident, Barry used it to make himself look special on a discussion group. Go figure. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
Re: "Rama walked on air. He appeared to glide over the desert sands as if boards with rollers were attached to his legs. His legs appeared as light beams that formed triangles at the bottom. " Richard, you are soo JELLOS! I know, deep down, you just wish you had seen this. Did you ever take hallucinogenics? If you did, and they were any good, you should be able to relate ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 4/19/2014 12:46 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I'm all for getting scientific about things like this but they are extremely rare and so not easy to test. > According to Barry, the Rama levitation event happened hundreds of times and thousands of people witnessed it, so it wasn't that rare. It wouldn't be very difficult to test - Randi could set up a lab test, but Rama is dead now and he didn't teach Barry the secret. Maybe Rama reincarnated as Barry - they both like dogs and stage shows. But, since Barry was already born by the time Rama offed himself, maybe instead of reincarnating as Barry, Rama just took over the Barry body and mind - sort of like in the movie Transcendence. That would explain some things, like why Barry likes movies so much and electronic music, just like Rama. Go figure. "Rama walked on air. He appeared to glide over the desert sands as if boards with rollers were attached to his legs. His legs appeared as light beams that formed triangles at the bottom. " http://www.meditationclub.com/LastIncarnation.pdf http://www.meditationclub.com/LastIncarnation.pdf This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment.
It is pretty great they offered the courses for free. Glad you availed yourself of the opportunity. I knew a janitor who worked his career at the UW and not only enjoyed what he did, but was able to retire with enough to support he and his wife, albeit with a little downsizing, but who cares about all the stuff anyway. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 4/19/2014 11:38 AM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Re: One janitor I know is still working there after twenty-five years.. Is it a "failure" that he is still a janitor? > Not if you enjoy cleaning up after adolescent children all day and night for twenty years for minimum wage. What I couldn't understand is why most of the staff didn't take some free courses at the college. In two years, I saw kids get degrees and certifications and start making some real money. One student I knew went through the two-year RN program and is now making $75,00 a year. Go figure. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
On 4/19/2014 12:46 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I'm all for getting scientific about things like this but they are extremely rare and so not easy to test. > According to Barry, the Rama levitation event happened hundreds of times and thousands of people witnessed it, so it wasn't that rare. It wouldn't be very difficult to test - Randi could set up a lab test, but Rama is dead now and he didn't teach Barry the secret. Maybe Rama reincarnated as Barry - they both like dogs and stage shows. But, since Barry was already born by the time Rama offed himself, maybe instead of reincarnating as Barry, Rama just took over the Barry body and mind - sort of like in the movie Transcendence. That would explain some things, like why Barry likes movies so much and electronic music, just like Rama. Go figure. "Rama walked on air. He appeared to glide over the desert sands as if boards with rollers were attached to his legs. His legs appeared as light beams that formed triangles at the bottom. " http://www.meditationclub.com/LastIncarnation.pdf --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment.
On 4/19/2014 11:38 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Re: One janitor I know is still working there after twenty-five years.. Is it a "failure" that he is still a janitor? > Not if you enjoy cleaning up after adolescent children all day and night for twenty years for minimum wage. What I couldn't understand is why most of the staff didn't take some free courses at the college. In two years, I saw kids get degrees and certifications and start making some real money. One student I knew went through the two-year RN program and is now making $75,00 a year. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And that is why I replied to Barry's request. But then I was accused of pestering him to reply to me. But yes Richard, that is the issue that I think atheists don't want to go near. They are better off staying in full denial, and passing off incidents that defy an easy explanation as just some sort of weird coincidence. "Science works in mysterious ways" or at least there is some scientific explanation for this or that occurrence, but the science has not progressed sufficiently to explain it. How do we explain things like a child being obsessed with events that took place before he was born, and knowing details about such events when he has had no exposure to them. How does something like that occur? A better question for you to ask would be, why doesn't it happen to everyone if reincarnation is a common occurrence? Why to so very few? One of the major stories I know of like that is of a Scottish boy who said he came from an island where planes land on the beach. It turns out there is one, called Barra. His family claimed there was no way he could have known but even when they were being interviewed there was a TV on in the background. I'm all for getting scientific about things like this but they are extremely rare and so not easy to test. Basically you have to iron out the possibility of them picking the information up anywhere else. The plural of anecdote really isn't data, I've yet to see a story like this that has reliable facts that are certain not to have been isolated from the child. And like a lot of beliefs about the mind it lacks any known mechanism about how it might work, which doesn't mean it can't but it would also have to explain why it works so rarely. Tricky for something physical. If that's what it is. Everyone dreams for instance. Seems to me that knowledge of previous lives would be immensely useful, why do we forget it?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
On 4/19/2014 11:29 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: They are better off staying in full denial, and passing off incidents that defy an easy explanation as just some sort of weird coincidence. > Barry posted that when Rama filled the whole lecture hall with golden light, that he wasn't all that impressed - he figured it was just another guy who could do cool things with light. So, when was the last time you witnessed ANYONE levitating, surrounded by a bright golden light? Instead of denying this incident, Barry used it to make himself look special on a discussion group. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
On 4/19/2014 11:59 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And that is why I replied to Barry's request. But then I was accused of pestering him to reply to me. But yes Richard, that is the issue that I think atheists don't want to go near. They are better off staying in full denial, and passing off incidents that defy an easy explanation as just some sort of weird coincidence. "Science works in mysterious ways" or at least there is some scientific explanation for this or that occurrence, but the science has not progressed sufficiently to explain it. Denial about what? > Denial that when Rama levitated it was a miracle? Or, a denial that Rama was the Last Incarnation of Lord Vishnu? Who passes off things as a weird coincidence? > It was a weird in my opinion because Barry /just happened to be present/ when one of the most important events of all time occured, after the invention of the lever. So what if not everything can be explained NOW. Does that mean we should chuck out what we have worked out? > It seems like, with power like that, to be able to levitate hundreds of times, Rama could have done some good with his talent instead of sending Barry out to work and give him more money. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And that is why I replied to Barry's request. But then I was accused of pestering him to reply to me. But yes Richard, that is the issue that I think atheists don't want to go near. They are better off staying in full denial, and passing off incidents that defy an easy explanation as just some sort of weird coincidence. "Science works in mysterious ways" or at least there is some scientific explanation for this or that occurrence, but the science has not progressed sufficiently to explain it. Denial about what? Denial that we come into this world not as a blank slate, but with tendencies and predispositions that shape our lifetime. Who passes off things as a weird coincidence? How do we explain things like a child being obsessed with events that took place before he was born, and knowing details about such events when he has had no exposure to them. How does something like that occur? So what if not everything can be explained NOW. Does that mean we should chuck out what we have worked out? No, but what I am saying is that there are things that don't appear to be within the purview of science to explain, at least anytime soon. And so, if we want to understand them, we need to work out some theory. And the theory that I have worked out in my mind, is that we have been here before, and the "before" shapes our experiences "now". Now for the record, this may not be anything that needs to be known for our daily goings on, but they are entomological questions that we all think about to one degree or another. or at least I do. We'll wait. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 4/18/2014 9:43 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: To help me understand this, I'm asking the believers in God here to speak up and tell me what the BENEFITS of such a belief are. > Because, it will help you understand karma and reincarnation and what it is that reincarnates and what reaps the karma? This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And that is why I replied to Barry's request. But then I was accused of pestering him to reply to me. But yes Richard, that is the issue that I think atheists don't want to go near. They are better off staying in full denial, and passing off incidents that defy an easy explanation as just some sort of weird coincidence. "Science works in mysterious ways" or at least there is some scientific explanation for this or that occurrence, but the science has not progressed sufficiently to explain it. Denial about what? Who passes off things as a weird coincidence? So what if not everything can be explained NOW. Does that mean we should chuck out what we have worked out? We'll wait. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 4/18/2014 9:43 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: To help me understand this, I'm asking the believers in God here to speak up and tell me what the BENEFITS of such a belief are. > Because, it will help you understand karma and reincarnation and what it is that reincarnates and what reaps the karma? This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment.
Re: One janitor I know is still working there after twenty-five years.. Is it a "failure" that he is still a janitor? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 4/18/2014 8:09 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: > Spoken like the puffed up with TM specialness fool you are. If you had > ever served on staff at MIU you would have heard Big Bopper Bevan > speak many times to the staff on the total importance of the dedicated > staff in serving Marshy and the Movement and bringing the world to > enlightenment. We were the guys who baked the bread, cleaned the > toilets, washed the sheets and kept the heating and ac going. But your > arrogance doesn't allow you to appreciate the everyday joes who > actually allow your big shot gurus to live in luxury, do you? > Well, I became a "big shot" through hard work. Not special because of TM - I started out as a janitor at the school worked my way up from there - I had the will power to persevere and follow the rules. It is just amazing how may janitors never took a single course at the college, and the courses were FREE. Go figure. One janitor I know is still working there after twenty-five years. He must have seen countless generations graduate in his time. All schools need janitors, but at some point you need to take on some responsibility and stop blaming others for your failures. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Don't worry about God, Worry about Robots
Just because you can build it doesn't mean you should. Of course then the stockholders will scream "you better build it or brand X will and our stock will go in the toilet." Such is the dilemma of technology. Here is an article about some scientists concern that we may be building robots that could go out of control. Terminator, anyone? http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/18/scientist-warns-that-the-robot-apocalypse-really-is-coming-unless-steps-are-taken-now/ One could redo "Planet of the Apes" where the astronauts return and find earth inhabited by nothing but machines and they become the target of a hunt. Believe me their are goofy young kids that think you're an asshole if you want to impede technology and trans-humanism. I look upon them as subspecies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
And that is why I replied to Barry's request. But then I was accused of pestering him to reply to me. But yes Richard, that is the issue that I think atheists don't want to go near. They are better off staying in full denial, and passing off incidents that defy an easy explanation as just some sort of weird coincidence. "Science works in mysterious ways" or at least there is some scientific explanation for this or that occurrence, but the science has not progressed sufficiently to explain it. We'll wait. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 4/18/2014 9:43 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: To help me understand this, I'm asking the believers in God here to speak up and tell me what the BENEFITS of such a belief are. > Because, it will help you understand karma and reincarnation and what it is that reincarnates and what reaps the karma? This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jennifer Aniston: Transcendental meditation keeps me looking good
On 4/19/2014 5:40 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Ah, but some people seem to be. On the other hand, the last photo shows Girish Varma being arrested for rape, so at least one part of him has been rejuvenated... :-) > Never pass up a tragic situation if it can help you win a religious debate. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
Barry is scared of introspection. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : With all due respect, Steve, you seem to have been infected with JudyRobinitis, and expect me to argue with you just because you want to argue. I posted what I had to say, you had the opportunity to post what you had to say in response, and you did so. I even answered once. I don't see that I "owe" you anything more as "follow up," just because you want to turn it into some mock "debate" that you feel you can "win." If you have more to say, say it. The fact that you weren't able to put everything you wanted to say into your first reply post does not obligate me to get involved in a longer series of posts with you. Frankly, whenever someone does, you tend to just repeat yourself, rather than introducing anything new. I'd rather skip that part and stand on what I said originally. If you don't like what I said or disagree with it, feel free to post more about that to your heart's content. That doesn't require me to participate. It is not problem Barry. I am only doing what you are doing - putting something out there. I do not care if you reply or not. I am sorry you interpret it as if am trying to engage you, or have some expectation that you need to reply. I think you may have developed some hyper sensitivity in that area. BTW, I was expecting the comparison to Judy to come up at some point. Now, throwing in Robin, well that was a little unexpected. (-:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!
On 4/19/2014 6:07 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: > God Almighty, what can you say to such shit thinking. Rather than > being small minded, it shows they have retained some independence of > thinking and have not been completely ruined, but you Nazi minded > fellow who goose steps in lock step with whomever you think is the > biggest cheese on the block want to say there is something wrong with > their "practice" - and it all boils down to whomever Benjy Creme, a > shameless fraud himself who ripped off his schtick from CW Leadbeater, > designates as the Big Cheese. But you are right - there is something > wrong with their practice - they are doing a mediocre meditation which > is really a Hindu devotional practice designed to get Hindu gods to > give 'em a whole bunch of stuff. Looks like the Hindu gods gave 'em > the booby prize when they "blessed" them with the rajas. > As opposed to your practice of Chinese communist Kung Fu? Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Classical Theism Really the Strongest Version of the God Idea?
On 4/19/2014 10:19 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Judy Stein Argumentation Clinic, Lesson #1 > It's all about Judy. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
On 4/18/2014 9:43 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: To help me understand this, I'm asking the believers in God here to speak up and tell me what the BENEFITS of such a belief are. > Because, it will help you understand karma and reincarnation and what it is that reincarnates and what reaps the karma? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
On 4/18/2014 8:04 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: > That would be a grand experiment for the TMO to undertake. Look at the > faith based beliefs in non-TM settings amongst non-TM groups and the > same look is given to TM faith based activities and happenings. Lets > see whose faith has the greatest effect in the real concrete world - > the TM True Believer's faith or the non-TM True Believers in whatever. > In your case, the experiment would probably find that you were doing well when you were at MUM, but now, not so good. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
On 4/19/2014 8:59 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: You are a fossil, a stone, petrified. You stay the same, you do not move. > He seems like that now, but keep in mind that Barry did a 180 after he got hurt by Judy over on Google Groups. You're talking about a guy that was once a cult apologist - he sold the snake oil for over twenty-five years. Now, it's all about Judy. Remember, if Judy is for it, Barry is against it. It's that simple, Ann. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!
On 4/18/2014 8:12 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: > that's interesting that some would have the reaction. I mean, didn't > they know the rajas wore such outfits? > Their outfits probably don't look any stranger than your Kung Fu costume. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment.
On 4/18/2014 8:09 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: > Spoken like the puffed up with TM specialness fool you are. If you had > ever served on staff at MIU you would have heard Big Bopper Bevan > speak many times to the staff on the total importance of the dedicated > staff in serving Marshy and the Movement and bringing the world to > enlightenment. We were the guys who baked the bread, cleaned the > toilets, washed the sheets and kept the heating and ac going. But your > arrogance doesn't allow you to appreciate the everyday joes who > actually allow your big shot gurus to live in luxury, do you? > Well, I became a "big shot" through hard work. Not special because of TM - I started out as a janitor at the school worked my way up from there - I had the will power to persevere and follow the rules. It is just amazing how may janitors never took a single course at the college, and the courses were FREE. Go figure. One janitor I know is still working there after twenty-five years. He must have seen countless generations graduate in his time. All schools need janitors, but at some point you need to take on some responsibility and stop blaming others for your failures. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!
This is all an interesting consideration about Transcendental Meditation. Very much like Brahmananda Saraswati, our Guru Dev, meditators here characteristically are very practical, down to earth and real in their spirituality. You have read the discourses of Guru Dev, Maharishi's teacher? People here are quite experienced spiritually. For instance meditators well know that if there is no useful shakti in something presented as spiritual then they will mostly go on to the next satsanga. Yes, there is a wide disheartenment in the old community of TM teachers and meditators with the specialness a Raja stick in TM. Even the TM.org is hiding the gold foil hats and robes of the Rajas. What were they thinking coming in to that meeting in full regalia? Certainly they considered it. That would have been a good question to have asked of Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR], CEO and Teacher of all of TM from the open Microphone at the meeting and heard an explaination of their need to wear that stuff in public. Nablusoss, you seem to have been around that more than anyone posting here. Maybe you can take a whack at the reasoning that they would come to visit America dressed like that. After morning meditation right now I got some work today with my livestock to move them out to green pastures and I don't got time towards to representing that POV on behalf of them here. Alex is related to it, may be he has some insight about the 'why' of gold foil hats. It is a question everyone asks about the meeting, “did they wear the hats?”. Notably, John Hagelin did not wear that stuff. That proly took some guts. Personally I am partial to a golden straw Amish broad brimmed hat for summer work. Out standing in his fields, -Buck mjackson74 writes: God Almighty, what can you say to such shit thinking. Rather than being small minded, it shows they have retained some independence of thinking and have not been completely ruined, but you Nazi minded fellow who goose steps in lock step with whomever you think is the biggest cheese on the block want to say there is something wrong with their "practice" - and it all boils down to whomever Benjy Creme, a shameless fraud himself who ripped off his schtick from CW Leadbeater, designates as the Big Cheese. But you are right - there is something wrong with their practice - they are doing a mediocre meditation which is really a Hindu devotional practice designed to get Hindu gods to give 'em a whole bunch of stuff. Looks like the Hindu gods gave 'em the booby prize when they "blessed" them with the rajas. Nablusoss1008 writes: Buck, if they are so small-minded about how someone dress (!) something must be not right with their practice. Such a narrow-mindedness is unhealthy and indicates that something not right is going on in the top floor. I can't understand how they can express such silliness, take a look at what the Indians just did:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27031180These http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27031180These people in Fairfield really, really needs a checking to get out of those small boundries which obviously are bothering them. You know that group-checkings are easy to do, why don't you organize it ? Yes, the Raja part of TM is such a small circle in TM and of the larger TM community but people do wonder if they are going to keep doing it. When you talk to meditators in the community there is a general disheartenment that those guys wear that stuff representing the movement and the meditating community here. Generally you ask people here if they are meditators and the meditators respond saying, “yes, but not that.. .”, pointing in the general direction of campus and Vedic City.-Buck Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield! Afterwords, out in the Dome entry area and on the sidewalks to the parking areas as the meeting closed and people left: a big WTF reaction was, that they actually came wearing the gold foil hats and robes and stuff. I can't say that Alex's brother or some of those others following after Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam also in full regalia did not necessarily look or seem particularly ethereal in the cult outfit. Though that might have just been the bad light on them. It did sort of look and feel like The Return of the King set for The Lord of the Rings. It was just a little narcissistic. However, Hagelin and our other movement dignitaries seated on stage facing the crowd were dressed secular in suits and such. Generally was dignity and was all more corporate than cult. Lots of good people with high-mindedness and well-intentioned. Deserves only a watching and of course transparency to see. It was a good meeting of the remaining meditating community. -Buck in the Dome mjackson74 asks: What did he
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jennifer Aniston: Transcendental meditation keeps me looking good
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 12:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Jennifer Aniston: Transcendental meditation keeps me looking good You are still not too old for a little rejuvenation ! http://www.starpulse.com/news/Lucy_Hobson/2014/03/27/jennifer_aniston_transcendental_medita http://www.starpulse.com/news/Lucy_Hobson/2014/03/27/jennifer_aniston_transcendental_medita Ah, but some people seem to be. On the other hand, the last photo shows Girish Varma being arrested for rape, so at least one part of him has been rejuvenated... :-) Anybody else see the similarity in looks between Bevan and someone else on this list? Bevan could be his brother based on looks. It's just an observation, not a condemnation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Mother India -- "Take your poo to the loo"
On 4/18/2014 7:39 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: > Yep ... the practice is the end-all of it all. Why it's just sittin' > on my ass looking oh-so-lightened. Ca..., Can..., Can't you all see > my aura?" > It's not that complicated. All you have to do is sit, and be aware of being aware. According to the Soto Zen Master Dogen, this "just sitting" and being aware IS the enlightened state. Your cup is too full - first you must empty your cup before you can understand emptiness. In reality, there is no thought, no flow of thought, no not flow of thought; thoughts and things do not go anywhere, and they don't move. If you observe your own thoughts by just being aware, you will find that they are insubstantial, like a mirage, an illusion, horns on a hare. That's all you need to know about enlightenment. Read more: 'The Three Pillars of Zen' Teaching, Practice and Enlightenment By Phillip Kapleau Anchor Books, 1989 p. 178 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ashes and Snow by Gregory Colbert
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Glad you liked it. As Maharishi said to the CP's in Rishikesh: "The relationship between man and animals is very delicate" A deep relationship with any animal is a privilege.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "steve.sundur@..." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The concept of a God *complicates* things, rather than simplifying them. That would be fine with me. I am trying to go about understanding things, like most of us. And for me, I've come to the conclusion that there is a higher power at work, even if there is much I don't understand about it. And I have come to the opposite conclusion. End of story. It would seem that there is nothing further to discuss, unless you feel the need to try to convert me to your conclusion. Me, I feel no such need. Believe whatever you want. Barry, it is you who have lost your edge. You would be well advised not to bring up subjects or issues that you are unwilling, or unable to follow through with. With all due respect, Steve, you seem to have been infected with JudyRobinitis, and expect me to argue with you just because you want to argue. I posted what I had to say, you had the opportunity to post what you had to say in response, and you did so. I even answered once. I don't see that I "owe" you anything more as "follow up," just because you want to turn it into some mock "debate" that you feel you can "win." If you have more to say, say it. The fact that you weren't able to put everything you wanted to say into your first reply post does not obligate me to get involved in a longer series of posts with you. Frankly, whenever someone does, you tend to just repeat yourself, rather than introducing anything new. I'd rather skip that part and stand on what I said originally. If you don't like what I said or disagree with it, feel free to post more about that to your heart's content. That doesn't require me to participate. This is all because you, Bawwy, are a solidified, narrow-minded and completely closed individual who is, by his own admission, unwilling or maybe even unable, to consider that his currently-held ideas and beliefs need modification. You are a freak of nature, as I have ascertained before. You are a fossil, a stone, petrified. You stay the same, you do not move. You might as well be dead. You are dead in all the ways that count. But then, I am talking to a deaf man, a blind man - someone who feels there is nothing left to know. Someone who refuses to allow anything to shake his fortified structures of belief. Add to that your odiousness and violence when these belief structures are questioned and we have one hell of an example of how humans can become so seriously isolated by their own choices and fears.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Classical Theism Really the Strongest Version of the God Idea?
On 4/18/2014 6:02 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: It's really funny when you think about how Judy masterfully pulls them into the rabbit hole again and again. It's simply amazing! They sound well-read but would anyone like to wager they probably never even heard of Feser before this dialog? If they actually know what Judy is talking about, they're even further down the rabbit hole than I realized. They sound like doctors of metaphysics. In their zeal to discredit Judy, they won't even acknowledge Barry's levitation claims. Go figure. I'm not a philosopher. I'm not a scientist. I'm not religious. I know there are wonders all around me. I know that I know virtually nothing and yet my life seems to continue with some degree of order and flow. This probably means there is intelligence beyond what I contain and what I consciously know. That is good enough for me. The fact that I'm not ultimately the driver behind the wheel is a huge relief. That's about all I want to say about it. A Chinese sage once fell down into a ditch because he was always walking around looking up at the sky. > We don't even know what credentials these guys have. While it is believable that Judy has read Feser and maybe others, it's not clear how well-read the others are. But it is funny how easily they get drawn into a religious debate. It's almost like they are trying to convince themselves of something. They don't seem to be familiar with the Singularity or the Field in quantum physics. I'm not sure they are up on the latest speculations and theories in theology or comparative religions. As an editor, I'd think Judy has much more exposure to current writings on theism. Go figure. I believe in life; what it does to you, and what you do back. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "The End" must be nigh
On 4/18/2014 2:24 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Sorry man, are we going on a bit? It ought to be over before the predicted end of the universe ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Wow, all this chatter about God, Theism, etc yawn. The end must be nigh. Oh wait, never mind, this is the Funny Farm Lounge. :-D > There is nothing quite so comical as three or four atheists debating the existence of supernatural beings. What is even more amusing is that Sally and Ajax apparently thought Judy was a theist. Barry knew better but he prattled on. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
On 4/18/2014 8:22 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: For the record, I have no problem with "some sort of fundamental energy" that underlies the universe. What I take issue with is whether this energy "structures" the universe in the sense of either creating it or maintaining it, hands-on. I take issue with its supposed sentience or ability to have a Plan, much less manifest one. > So, I wonder what sort of fundamental energy would underlie reincarnation or karma? Is a just a mechanical process? If so, where does a person get their individual personality and consciousness? Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on losers?
Michael, I don't know if I was so much a true believer in that I surrendered all my analytical skills. Yes, I believed in the message, and spread it pretty effectively I think. That is to say the basic technique of TM. Perhaps, like many, I was searching for something "more" back in the day, and TM seemed to be the answer for that. And so, I became a teacher and graduated from MIU. Throughout that time, there were aspects of the organization that I found ridged and a bit misguided and so it lost some of its charm for me. But there was no single event that caused me to become disillusioned. In fact I've mentioned that after I graduated in 1981, I continued to do group program until the time I got married and had a child. And now, I feel as though that spiritual journey has entered a different phase. As far as my mediation, I still do that after work before I come home, or after dinner when I feel a need. I find it relaxing, although I don't do it in the context of a spiritual technique, if that makes any sense. And again, I feel the spiritual path is what makes life meaningful, but that path take on many forms. My wife is a pretty devout Catholic, and I think she has been served well by her adherence to that practice. Thanks for the inquiry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Steve, I may be wrong but didn't you recently allude to you being a real true believer at one time who became disillusioned with certain things about TM or at least with the TMO? Would you mind telling what aspects you became disillusioned with and what aspects you are still alright with? On Sat, 4/19/14, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@...> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on losers? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, April 19, 2014, 1:49 AM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And *this* gets me to thinking about whether Maharishi always pitched TM to losers and people with problems and low self esteem because they become the best disciples. And *disciples* is what he was looking for. Or is it possible that for whatever reason the generation that responded most strongly to Maharishi's message was a generation that was searching for something different. Is it possible that this may have been a reason, or do you prefer just to go with the low self esteem, loser scenario. And is it possible that somehow you have gotten more jaded in your outlook on life such that everything to do with TM, at least, gets reduced to the worst possible interpretation. This is after all an organization that you left more than 40 years ago, and yet you are one of the most active participants in a forum which has this organization as it's focus. I don't know if the TB experiment you allude to regularly really makes sense. You appear to have a pretty big investment in anything, and everything TM. Am I wrong about that? Think about it. Does the TMO really spend any energy trying to market TM to "regular people," who have few problems in life and are just looking to enjoy it more? They do not. They focus on People With Problems. Kids doing badly in school. Criminals locked away in prisons. Veterans with PTSD. Can't this be seen as a continuation of a long-standing trend to look for prospective new students among populations who are more likely to be easy to convert into True Believers and thus become disciples? It's just an idea. YMMV.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : With all due respect, Steve, you seem to have been infected with JudyRobinitis, and expect me to argue with you just because you want to argue. I posted what I had to say, you had the opportunity to post what you had to say in response, and you did so. I even answered once. I don't see that I "owe" you anything more as "follow up," just because you want to turn it into some mock "debate" that you feel you can "win." If you have more to say, say it. The fact that you weren't able to put everything you wanted to say into your first reply post does not obligate me to get involved in a longer series of posts with you. Frankly, whenever someone does, you tend to just repeat yourself, rather than introducing anything new. I'd rather skip that part and stand on what I said originally. If you don't like what I said or disagree with it, feel free to post more about that to your heart's content. That doesn't require me to participate. It is not problem Barry. I am only doing what you are doing - putting something out there. I do not care if you reply or not. I am sorry you interpret it as if am trying to engage you, or have some expectation that you need to reply. I think you may have developed some hyper sensitivity in that area. BTW, I was expecting the comparison to Judy to come up at some point. Now, throwing in Robin, well that was a little unexpected. (-:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jennifer Aniston: Transcendental meditation keeps me looking good
President of the Council of Supreme Intelligence! Will that ever not be funny? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 12:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Jennifer Aniston: Transcendental meditation keeps me looking good You are still not too old for a little rejuvenation ! http://www.starpulse.com/news/Lucy_Hobson/2014/03/27/jennifer_aniston_transcendental_medita http://www.starpulse.com/news/Lucy_Hobson/2014/03/27/jennifer_aniston_transcendental_medita Ah, but some people seem to be. On the other hand, the last photo shows Girish Varma being arrested for rape, so at least one part of him has been rejuvenated... :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ashes and Snow by Gregory Colbert
Hauntingly beautiful Nablusoss, thank you for posting. I especially love the frames in which a person is sleeping near or on the animal. That moves me so much. On Saturday, April 19, 2014 4:30 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: http://vimeo.com/29498902
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!
God Almighty, what can you say to such shit thinking. Rather than being small minded, it shows they have retained some independence of thinking and have not been completely ruined, but you Nazi minded fellow who goose steps in lock step with whomever you think is the biggest cheese on the block want to say there is something wrong with their "practice" - and it all boils down to whomever Benjy Creme, a shameless fraud himself who ripped off his schtick from CW Leadbeater, designates as the Big Cheese. But you are right - there is something wrong with their practice - they are doing a mediocre meditation which is really a Hindu devotional practice designed to get Hindu gods to give 'em a whole bunch of stuff. Looks like the Hindu gods gave 'em the booby prize when they "blessed" them with the rajas. On Sat, 4/19/14, nablusoss1008 wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, April 19, 2014, 8:29 AM Buck, if they are so small-minded about how someone dress (!) something must be not right with their practice. Such a narrow-mindedness is unhealthy and indicates that something not right is going on in the top floor. I can't understand how they can express such silliness, take a look at what the Indians just did:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27031180These people in Fairfield really, really needs a checking to get out of those small boundries which obviously are bothering them. You know that group-checkings are easy to do, why don't you organize it ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes, the Raja part of TM is such a small circle in TM and of the larger TM community but people do wonder if they are going to keep doing it. When you talk to meditators in the community there is a general disheartenment that those guys wear that stuff representing the movement and the meditating community here. Generally you ask people here if they are meditators and the meditators respond saying, “yes, but not that.. .”, pointing in the general direction of campus and Vedic City.-Buck Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield! Afterwords, out in the Dome entry area and on the sidewalks to the parking areas as the meeting closed and people left: a big WTF reaction was, that they actually came wearing the gold foil hats and robes and stuff. I can't say that Alex's brother or some of those others following after Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam also in full regalia did not necessarily look or seem particularly ethereal in the cult outfit. Though that might have just been the bad light on them. It did sort of look and feel like The Return of the King set for The Lord of the Rings. It was just a little narcissistic. However, Hagelin and our other movement dignitaries seated on stage facing the crowd were dressed secular in suits and such. Generally was dignity and was all more corporate than cult. Lots of good people with high-mindedness and well-intentioned. Deserves only a watching and of course transparency to see. It was a good meeting of the remaining meditating community. -Buck in the Dome mjackson74 asks: What did he say about the relationship of the US movement to Girish? No, he was not asked about that so did not get to that. Uptown that readily gets asked by meditators but it was not asked last night for him to comment on. Nobody spoke about that. That as a larger community question Is still unresolved, as in not spoken to. -Buck sharelong60: Nablusoss, here in the states some FFers hie off in winter to a place in Florida called Vero Beach. Probably not as nice as Nice (-: Anyway, yes the meeting was good, though it went a little too late for my preference. imo Dr. Nader embodies a loving heart and brilliant mind and down to earth practicality. I think Maharishi chose wisely when he chose him. nablusoss1008 writes: Very nice report Buck, thanks for posting. I'll soon have a community meeting myself in Nice where I'm contemplating buying a house. Seems there are quite a few meditators down there in the sun :-) The Meeting.Was a Nice meditating community meeting. Non-meditators and townies would not have understood a lot of it. Though nothing was said that they could not have heard. It had some meditation news, some theoretical type of knowledge related to consciousness and meditation, some celebration, John Hagelin was a fun and witty MC, Bevan called in with some nice comments. We all got to sing the TM happy birthday song at a point in the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on winners ?
You are wrong again. I am not bitter, nor do I feel "spurned" by Marshy - I just recognize him for the fraud he was. I did once believe he was enlightened, but that was when I was deep in the TM Brain Dead lifestyle, and belief in his "enlightenment" and his version of enlightenment (which doesn't exist) was one of the first of my illusions to go. On Sat, 4/19/14, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on winners ? Michael, you once offered your services to help me get over my TBerness. I now make the same offer to you. Lesson One: Maharishi was never a God, and is not God. He did not possess supernatural powers and never claimed to have them. Now, I realize that this may be hard for your to accept. You act more like a spurned lover who has put the object of his affections on a unrealistic pedestal that could never be ascended. And now that this object of your affections has come up short, you are unable to get over the disappointment, and have become bitter. Let me know if I can help, and maybe, just maybe we can make some progress and move forward. Your Friend in Recovery, Steve ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : more like the CIA was never interested in TM to begin with and Marshy was a superstitious paranoid con artist. If he was so convinced the CIA was dogging his tracks, why didn't he use some of his enlightened powers to run 'em off, or call on Shiva to destroy them? I mean, if Shiva could make his own frozen pecker appear outside Marshy's bedroom when Marshy was in his dotage, surely he could have done the Old Goat that little favor. On Fri, 4/18/14, nablusoss1008 wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on winners ? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 18, 2014, 12:18 PM It's a tricky question. First of all the CIA lost interest in the TMO already 29 years ago since they found it is a harmless org. The people at Langley are not stupid and only started their inquiries because that peanut-farmer asked them to. Plenty of people were on their payrolls at the time including some Initiators and members of Purusha. One fellow I know was caught red-handed when posting a report in a mailbox during a project in Asia. Maharishi didn't become the least upset and simply asked the fellow if he would give up his association with the CIA and continue to work for us, he agreed and is still fulltime.Then there is the issue with that Lama fellow. Unfortunately he is next to broke and has little funds to spare as most Governments sees him as a clown.My thinking these days is that the naysayers and dwellers in the comfy old outdated systems about to crumble, so furiously opposing change are not paid for their role. At least not that I am aware of. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Again just for the edification of the "lurker press," Perfect TMer Nabby should remind them that -- as he has said here many times -- many of the TM critics here are being paid by the CIA. It is still an open question which Overlord pays better -- the Dalai Lama or the CIA. And there is the question as to whether some of them are "double-dipping" and being paid by both Overlords. Perhaps Nabby can answer these nagging questions for us. From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on winners ? By asking for donations to finance free Initiations David Lynch takes from the rich and gives to the poor, a modern day Robin Hood. No wonders the devotees of stale, rigid and outdated religions representing the old ways of doing things hate him. Unfortunately the representatives of their outgoing energies are plenty here on FFL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The David Lynch Foundation offers TM instruction for free to people in "at risk" groups, but the $2500 price tag was originally set by Maharishi to entice wealthy people and only wealthy people to learn TM. Weren't you complaining about how insanely high that price tag was? Seems to me that no matter how TM is marketed and for what price and for whichever group of people -the homeless, war refugees, students in El Barrio watching their cousins kill their cousins, or world famous actors and actresses, CEOs worth as much as small countries, etc.- you'll find a reason to kvetch. It's just an idea. YMMV. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : One of the t
Re: [FairfieldLife] Crimean Deal to 'de-escalate' agreed to in Geneva
You are easily impressed by hypocrites and hucksters. When has that rascal ever been involved in community like he is telling you to be? When has the rest of the TM leadership? They live insular communities that collude to treat these men like the kings they think they are - which they are not On Sat, 4/19/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Crimean Deal to 'de-escalate' agreed to in Geneva To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, April 19, 2014, 2:09 AM Well actually Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR], CEO and Teacher of all of TM commented the other evening that as much as we go in to consciousness we bring it out and that as humans we should be active, caring and present in life and civic affairs as well being meditators. This was in response to some person at the open microphone going on with some aggravation about governments and currencies he could not trust but imploring that we get more people meditating in the Domes. MAR gave a very real practical and humored answer very just like Maharishi or Guru Dev Brahmananda Saraswati would have that was sympathetic but principled in the spirituality of 'meditate and act' and governments are a reflection of the coherence of their people. MAR was really brilliant and kind answering this guy who instead was really scratching and hoping for some affirmation of an anti-government political thing to grind. The guy evidently did not get it. MAR was being quite teacher-ly in a very Spiritual way. I was impressed. -Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes:tell that to the Jews who are being forced to register - better yet, tell the purusha and siddhas you and Nabby claim are responsible for this glorious turn of events. Jai Guru Dev,Russia, Ukraine, the US and the European Unionhave said that all sides have agreed to steps to"de-escalate" the crisis in easternUkraine. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27072351
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on losers?
Steve, I may be wrong but didn't you recently allude to you being a real true believer at one time who became disillusioned with certain things about TM or at least with the TMO? Would you mind telling what aspects you became disillusioned with and what aspects you are still alright with? On Sat, 4/19/14, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on losers? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, April 19, 2014, 1:49 AM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And *this* gets me to thinking about whether Maharishi always pitched TM to losers and people with problems and low self esteem because they become the best disciples. And *disciples* is what he was looking for. Or is it possible that for whatever reason the generation that responded most strongly to Maharishi's message was a generation that was searching for something different. Is it possible that this may have been a reason, or do you prefer just to go with the low self esteem, loser scenario. And is it possible that somehow you have gotten more jaded in your outlook on life such that everything to do with TM, at least, gets reduced to the worst possible interpretation. This is after all an organization that you left more than 40 years ago, and yet you are one of the most active participants in a forum which has this organization as it's focus. I don't know if the TB experiment you allude to regularly really makes sense. You appear to have a pretty big investment in anything, and everything TM. Am I wrong about that? Think about it. Does the TMO really spend any energy trying to market TM to "regular people," who have few problems in life and are just looking to enjoy it more? They do not. They focus on People With Problems. Kids doing badly in school. Criminals locked away in prisons. Veterans with PTSD. Can't this be seen as a continuation of a long-standing trend to look for prospective new students among populations who are more likely to be easy to convert into True Believers and thus become disciples? It's just an idea. YMMV.
[FairfieldLife] Time travelling future humans visit site of TM village!
The Rendlesham forest UFO incident is a classic. The story has been added to over the years by these guys and now bears no relation to the original reported events in which a bunch of airmen got lost in the woods at night and scared themselves silly after seeing some lights which were most likely the lighthouse on the coast, and then failed to use their geiger counters properly. Or they had a close encounter with alien beings. The other thing you need to know is that Nick Pope isn't a UFO expert any more than I am, he worked at the Ministry of Defence for a few years and dealt with enquiries from the public about lights in the sky. He was on duty when the reports about flying triangles came in during the first Gulf war and was as puzzled as everyone else. He had no top secret clearance and so wasn't informed of their true origins. He also didn't know anything about the UK governments previous investigations into unexplained arial phenomena and had no comment when it all came out under the official secrets act a few years ago. He is however a UFO True Believer of the very first order. But it's a great story, I really want to believe it: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2608082/Why-I-believe-aliens-landed-Suffolk-forest-No-Nick-Pope-isnt-UFO-fantasist-hes-ex-Ministry-Defence-expert-compelling-dossier-evidence.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2608082/Why-I-believe-aliens-landed-Suffolk-forest-No-Nick-Pope-isnt-UFO-fantasist-hes-ex-Ministry-Defence-expert-compelling-dossier-evidence.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jennifer Aniston: Transcendental meditation keeps me looking good
From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 12:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Jennifer Aniston: Transcendental meditation keeps me looking good You are still not too old for a little rejuvenation ! http://www.starpulse.com/news/Lucy_Hobson/2014/03/27/jennifer_aniston_transcendental_medita Ah, but some people seem to be. On the other hand, the last photo shows Girish Varma being arrested for rape, so at least one part of him has been rejuvenated... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Jennifer Aniston: Transcendental meditation keeps me looking good
You are still not too old for a little rejuvenation ! http://www.starpulse.com/news/Lucy_Hobson/2014/03/27/jennifer_aniston_transcendental_medita http://www.starpulse.com/news/Lucy_Hobson/2014/03/27/jennifer_aniston_transcendental_medita
[FairfieldLife] In Spite Of The Mind Being Restless One Needs To Continue The Practise
Questions, and Answers by Sri Ma Anandamayi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw-8LAb2c9g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw-8LAb2c9g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNW2R18miWc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNW2R18miWc
[FairfieldLife] Charlie Haden & Pat Metheny - Spiritual
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s4SDCC15GM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s4SDCC15GM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU7Ma9r4cfo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU7Ma9r4cfo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP-NDCwgWFI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP-NDCwgWFI
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ashes and Snow by Gregory Colbert
Glad you liked it. As Maharishi said to the CP's in Rishikesh: "The relationship between man and animals is very delicate"
[FairfieldLife] "The Deity Answers Only to The Call of The Heart"
Snatam Kaur - Blissful Music Bundle - Anandamayi Ma http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ2NuomiEqo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ2NuomiEqo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ashes and Snow by Gregory Colbert
Very nice. From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 11:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ashes and Snow by Gregory Colbert http://vimeo.com/29498902
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The concept of a God *complicates* things, rather than simplifying them. That would be fine with me. I am trying to go about understanding things, like most of us. And for me, I've come to the conclusion that there is a higher power at work, even if there is much I don't understand about it. And I have come to the opposite conclusion. End of story. It would seem that there is nothing further to discuss, unless you feel the need to try to convert me to your conclusion. Me, I feel no such need. Believe whatever you want. Barry, it is you who have lost your edge. You would be well advised not to bring up subjects or issues that you are unwilling, or unable to follow through with. With all due respect, Steve, you seem to have been infected with JudyRobinitis, and expect me to argue with you just because you want to argue. I posted what I had to say, you had the opportunity to post what you had to say in response, and you did so. I even answered once. I don't see that I "owe" you anything more as "follow up," just because you want to turn it into some mock "debate" that you feel you can "win." If you have more to say, say it. The fact that you weren't able to put everything you wanted to say into your first reply post does not obligate me to get involved in a longer series of posts with you. Frankly, whenever someone does, you tend to just repeat yourself, rather than introducing anything new. I'd rather skip that part and stand on what I said originally. If you don't like what I said or disagree with it, feel free to post more about that to your heart's content. That doesn't require me to participate.
[FairfieldLife] Ashes and Snow by Gregory Colbert
http://vimeo.com/29498902 http://vimeo.com/29498902
[FairfieldLife] Re: Excellent, a must-see, enjoy!
It's beautiful and has been posted here before. It's part of Seinfeld's series "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee" Apparently TM saved the life of Howard Stein's mother. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : A really great 6-minute conversation in a restaurant between Howard Stern and Jerry Seinfeld Discussing Transcendental Meditation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPLn1ZgGxos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPLn1ZgGxos
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!
Buck, if they are so small-minded about how someone dress (!) something must be not right with their practice. Such a narrow-mindedness is unhealthy and indicates that something not right is going on in the top floor. I can't understand how they can express such silliness, take a look at what the Indians just did: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27031180 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27031180 These people in Fairfield really, really needs a checking to get out of those small boundries which obviously are bothering them. You know that group-checkings are easy to do, why don't you organize it ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes, the Raja part of TM is such a small circle in TM and of the larger TM community but people do wonder if they are going to keep doing it. When you talk to meditators in the community there is a general disheartenment that those guys wear that stuff representing the movement and the meditating community here. Generally you ask people here if they are meditators and the meditators respond saying, “yes, but not that.. .”, pointing in the general direction of campus and Vedic City. -Buck Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield! Afterwords, out in the Dome entry area and on the sidewalks to the parking areas as the meeting closed and people left: a big WTF reaction was, that they actually came wearing the gold foil hats and robes and stuff. I can't say that Alex's brother or some of those others following after Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam also in full regalia did not necessarily look or seem particularly ethereal in the cult outfit. Though that might have just been the bad light on them. It did sort of look and feel like The Return of the King set for The Lord of the Rings. It was just a little narcissistic. However, Hagelin and our other movement dignitaries seated on stage facing the crowd were dressed secular in suits and such. Generally was dignity and was all more corporate than cult. Lots of good people with high-mindedness and well-intentioned. Deserves only a watching and of course transparency to see. It was a good meeting of the remaining meditating community. -Buck in the Dome mjackson74 asks: What did he say about the relationship of the US movement to Girish? No, he was not asked about that so did not get to that. Uptown that readily gets asked by meditators but it was not asked last night for him to comment on. Nobody spoke about that. That as a larger community question Is still unresolved, as in not spoken to. -Buck sharelong60: Nablusoss, here in the states some FFers hie off in winter to a place in Florida called Vero Beach. Probably not as nice as Nice (-: Anyway, yes the meeting was good, though it went a little too late for my preference. imo Dr. Nader embodies a loving heart and brilliant mind and down to earth practicality. I think Maharishi chose wisely when he chose him. nablusoss1008 writes: Very nice report Buck, thanks for posting. I'll soon have a community meeting myself in Nice where I'm contemplating buying a house. Seems there are quite a few meditators down there in the sun :-) The Meeting. Was a Nice meditating community meeting. Non-meditators and townies would not have understood a lot of it. Though nothing was said that they could not have heard. It had some meditation news, some theoretical type of knowledge related to consciousness and meditation, some celebration, John Hagelin was a fun and witty MC, Bevan called in with some nice comments. We all got to sing the TM happy birthday song at a point in the end to our university's vice president. It was all nice. Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam, CEO of all of TM, acquitted himself very well. Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam and some of our TM Raja arrived in full regalia, in the hats and outfits having been driven to the Dome in their stretch limo. Context.After Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam was introduced briefly he spoke fondly of the Domes in Fairfield and their purpose. After that he turned to the open microphones for questions to answer. A usual sequence of touched community characters jumped to the mics. Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam did a really fine job of handling that. Journalistically, earlier in the day in town asking and surveying around of what questions people would like to have asked of Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam, in rapid-fire people easily asked about the lack of transparency and financial statements, our relationship with Girish Varma, the Pundits, the Domes. Other than the fact that none of these questions or concerns of substance got much of a chance to be asked it was a good meditator meeting. He said he'll be back,Jai Guru Dev,-Buck [ This meeting tonite is incredibly extremely really important for all of Transcendental Meditation.Maharaja Adhiraj Rajara
