[FairfieldLife] Re: opinion of oprah

[salyavin808]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I post this mainly in hopes that level headed science appreciator Sal and 
starry eyed quackery fan Share will give us their considered (and one would 
assume) entirely opposite opinions
 

 This bit says it all for me:
 

 Asimov died in 1992 -- six years into Oprah’s syndicated sabotage upon sense 
-- having lived long enough to see American Intellectual Life degenerate to 
depths worse than he could have imagined... from “my ignorance is just as good 
as your knowledge” into a cultural elevation of ignorance as not only “just as 
good”, but in every way superior to knowledge... A shift surely affected in 
part by Winfrey’s outsized influence.

 

 When TV is the main educator it's going to seek the lowest common denominator, 
another problem with capitalism. There's no one to check the facts and point 
out errors on Oprah, the audience figures rule, give the people what they want. 
 

 Unlike on British TV where we have rules about what how opinion pieces are to 
be portrayed compared to something with supporting evidence. That just covers 
documentaries though, I'm sure that chat shows rely on the hopeful integrity of 
the presenter. We have no one like Oprah thank the lord and the BBC is quite 
proud of its stance on impartiality, the Tories will destroy it though in their 
endless quest to turn the UK into America. If someone makes money out of it, it 
must intrinsically be a good thing right?
 

 http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement 
http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement
  
  
 http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement
  
  
  
  
  
 Oprah Winfrey ruins 2013 Harvard commencement 
http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement 
Last year’s Harvard Commencement keynote speech -- a trite, forgettable, and 
platitudinous monologue delivered by journalist Fareed Zakaria -- wafted 
inoffensiv


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Alternative Therapy

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

coming in late on this, as I mentioned before, I had a patch of psoriasis just 
below my knee for twenty plus years.  Ann sent me some colloidal silver and the 
first thing it did was dry that patch up.  I then continued to apply it, 
although less often, and it has completely taken the patch away.  My knee shows 
no sign of it, and I've stopped applying the ointment.  In fact the little one 
or two oz. container Ann sent me is probably more than half full. 
 And of course, my athletes foot had a little flair up, and after a couple 
applications, that has gone as well.
 

 During that twenty year period to treat the psoriasis, I visited doctors who 
prescribed ointments that virtually did no good.
 

 One the other hand, if I had a serious ailment, I would straight away go for 
an allopathic treatment.  I have seen (or heard) of too many people with 
serious ailments get side tracked on useless approaches, only to die in short 
order. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 08/22/2014 12:12 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   salyavin, imo the concepts thoroughly tested and safe and objective science 
are additional ways in which we kid ourselves.
 
 
 

 On Friday, August 22, 2014 1:56 PM, salyavin808  
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 
 
   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 On 08/22/2014 09:17 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 On 08/22/2014 12:12 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
 Do yourself a favour and drop the conspiracy theories when it comes to your 
health.



 
 No, I use the information gleaned from taking workshops in alternative 
medicine.  I used alternative medicine since 1972.  You do know you are arguing 
against people who have actually taken courses in it?  = Wow, courses.


 
 And how many courses have you taken? = It's not about courses it's about 
whether what they teach has been thoroughly tested. 
 This is what I've been saying all day, there may be great wonders still to be 
discovered but until it's as well tested as possible we will not know and end 
up with the sort of alternative therapies we have which largely involve 
placebo's and the white coat effect for their efficacy, such as it is.
 












 
 What some folks call "Quackery" may also just be "Folk Medicine" and has a 
record of never harming anyone compared to many pharmaceuticals.  I always love 
the one ad which is one minute long and 15 seconds for the actual endorsement 
by a sports figure and then 40 seconds of warnings and disclaimers.  Only a 
fool would want to take that shit.  And it also for an ailment that is curable 
by correcting the metabolic imbalance.
 
 And then there is the problem of "proper doctors" misdiagnosing. It happens 
far too often.
 
 I think Salvy's just a "science fan" and not a scientist.
 
 
 
 





 
 









 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] opinion of oprah

[salyavin808]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What does "level headed" mean?  Does it mean that Salvy sports a flat top? :-D 
 
 To be fair we are forgetting that Salvy enjoys a really different health care 
system than we have in "for profit" America.  If he lived here he might well be 
on the side of us who support alternative therapies especially if he got 
charged $100 (or more) for a doctor seeing him for 2 minutes.
 

 You've got a shite system over there for sure. Over here it's the alternatives 
that are expensive, which makes it  even more stupid to try random healthcare!
 
 
 On 08/23/2014 10:48 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   I post this mainly in hopes that level headed science appreciator Sal and 
starry eyed quackery fan Share will give us their considered (and one would 
assume) entirely opposite opinions
 

 http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement 
http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement
  
  
 
  
  
  
  
  
 Oprah Winfrey ruins 2013 Harvard commencement Last year’s Harvard Commencement 
keynote speech -- a trite, forgettable, and platitudinous monologue delivered 
by journalist Fareed Zakaria -- wafted inoffensiv


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: So you want to read this

[salyavin808]

Interesting, I've had occasion to complain about the Oxford street staff 
recently. Do write in and let head office know:
 
 http://www.clarks.co.uk/contactus http://www.clarks.co.uk/contactus 
 
 http://www.clarks.co.uk/contactus http://www.clarks.co.uk/contactus 
 
 
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 I always do if a company screws up, if you don't complain they think we 
approve and given the lowering of standards in shops generally it's a good idea 
to try and save something
 

 Supermarkets are the worst though. All their devious little tricks to push 
prices up like putting something on discount for a month then reducing the pack 
size before putting the price back up and thus netting themselves a 20% price 
increase. I don't miss a trick. I hope...
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I was in a Clarks shoe store on Oxford Street today trying on a couple of 
options for casual footwear suitable for the heatwave. I asked the assistant if 
I could try on a third style of shoe also and she said to me, "I'll just get 
them". Then, pointing to the two pairs I'd already tried on, she added, "So, 
you'll be wanting to take both of those." I had a moment of slight confusion 
but replied, "No, I'll just be getting the one pair but haven't decided which 
one yet." 
 

 What was odd is that a few months ago I'd been in another Clarks shoe store at 
the other end of Oxford Street in exactly the same situation - two styles of 
shoe tried and me ruminating and then me asking to try a third style - and the 
(different, male) assistant there had used exactly that expression: "So, you'll 
be wanting to take both of those." [Notice they both said "take those" and not 
"buy those", which latter phrase immediately brings to mind thoughts of money 
going from you to them and so activating an automatic resistance!]
 

 That can't be a coincidence can it? The same wording in the same chain? If you 
look at the expression used - "So, you'll be wanting to take both of those" - 
at a surface level it comes over as a question: "So, [will you] be wanting to 
[buy] both of those?" but surely it's actually an *embedded command*: "So, [you 
will be wanting] to take both of those" - which is how our subconscious absorbs 
it.
 

 The use of such sneaky methods has been popularized by the spread of NLP 
methodology. I felt pleased with myself for spotting this one but I wonder how 
many more I must be falling for every day.
 

 There is another possibility however. One day this FFL message may be used in 
court proceedings as clear evidence of my descent into paranoia and will see me 
forcibly sectioned under the Mental Health Act . . .
 

 
  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSbfqCO8XBI&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA&index=1
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSbfqCO8XBI&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA&index=1
 


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Those are some good points, and observations Ann, but we must remember that 
Michael has acquired special powers of knowing why people start meditating, and 
why they stop meditating. 
 Why it was just a couple days ago when he kindly corrected me as to the real 
reasons I curtailed, or discontinued part of my practice of TM and TMSP.
 

 He was very adamant about it, and it was really quite revealing. Sort of like 
he was screaming at me.
 

 Maybe he can dust off that old shingle of his, "MJ Spiritualist", and channel 
similar advice to others.
 

 Methinks, Michael is going to take exception to some of your observations. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A visitor to Fairfield, Iowa, the nearby Maharishi Vedic City, or other TM 
communities will see that, in practice, Maharishi’s teachings can, and do, 
provide a totalistic, highly prescriptive, all-consuming lifestyle for 
thousands of devoted followers of the Movement. 

 

 For these practitioners of TM, meditation, the sidhis, and the wide range of 
related practices and services constitute a complete spiritual path, an 
“ultimate concern,” whether you call it a religion or not. 

 

 In its dealings with meditators fully committed to TM, the Movement can be 
highly controlling and intolerant of deviations, encouraging orthodox thinking 
and enforcing orthopraxy. By most standards, TM looks and behaves like a new 
religious movement, at least for its most devout followers.
 

 Here is what I observe from old acquaintances that I see all the time on FB 
(you can learn a lot by looking at pics, seeing what they post, what their 
interests are, what their philosophy is) and who live in FF. They are my age or 
older and have a long history with TM and some are former students of MIU. 
These are people that either never left FF for three or four decades or who 
went out in the world and moved back. My sense is that they desire community. 
They like the small town feel, the fact that you can stroll the entire downtown 
in about 20 minutes at most and that they know/recognize virtually everyone, at 
least from their familiar faces. Lots of these people enjoy the comraderie of 
their peers who have, at one time or another, been interested in spiritual 
things. Some are artists, some are business people some are simply raising or 
have raised a family. This is not some closed up commune surrounded by barbed 
wire inhabited by gun-toting crazies convinced the world is going to end or 
that they have to divorce themselves from the rest of humanity. Many of those 
living in FF are mature, grown up people in their 50's and 60's who have pretty 
much seen all the paroxysms the Movement has gone through over the years and 
has taken what is useful and has moved on from the rest. Granted, I am speaking 
not from having been there recently but by my interactions with at least 5-6 
people online who are there as well as having attended a huge MIU reunion of 
the class of 1979-1980 in Santa Barbara about 5 years ago (160-200 people were 
there for 2-3 days of eating, drinking and reminiscing). Most of those 
attending were people currently living in California and many were involved in 
some aspect of the movie industry (aren't they all) but many were still 
meditating and thought fondly of their time at MIU. These were not devout 
followers of some pseudo religion just as most of the old friends living in FF 
that I have recently interacted with are not fanatical. They're just doing what 
they want to do in a place where old friends have ended up due to all the 
reasons I stated above. I think it would be a really worthwhile expedition for 
you to go back to FF for a week on a fact-finding tour. Hang out, go to events, 
see if you can get on campus. Do whatever you can to get a real feel for the 
joint. It could be a hoot. I'd love to hear your stories. In fact, I should go 
back sometime too, but not in the dead of winter. I had enough of those when I 
lived there.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: So you want to read this

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re " Punk is highly respected": respected maybe - just make sure it never 
becomes respectable! 
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My Dearest s3raphita,(I write this particular salutation in response to the 
graphic phrase in which you end your Post: "PS I have no problem telling pushy 
salespeople to fuck off", but let me be clear...I am not, nor have I ever been 
a salespeople.

Also, I do appreciate your consideration of us foreigners. Had you not 
explained that your Chelsea is in London, the entire story would have been 
nonsensical. In out Chelsea, Punk is highly respected, admired, adored, and 
respected (am I repeating too much, or do you get the point?)

I love Clark's Wallabees. 

I have a Size 13 foot.

(Oops, maybe that's not your desire.)

That is not a one-eyed smiley face, but rather a synonym for fetish,

Re fleetwood's "this fkn Yahoo Group has words overriding my screen": Ouch! 
Don't ever become a sub editor; those were the words of me.

And lastly, but not leastly...regarding words overriding my screen: I've 
noticed a lot of that recently, especially immediately following a posting from 
Richard J. Williams[!]. THAT;S BECAUSE HE JUST MAKES SHIT UP. IT'S LIKE A 
RANDOM SHIT-WORD GENERATOR.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

friedman, you apparently are not sharp enough to include the post you are 
replying to in your post - get up to speed will ya?




 From: danfriedman2002 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One
 


  
By George he's got it!I gotta say...the boy's sharp!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Dan, thank you for perfect reminder: the purpose of creation is the expansion 
of happiness.

Tonight I watched The Quartet, a sweet and moving story about a retirement home 
for musicians. Wonderful music included...



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:01 PM, danfriedman2002 
 wrote:
 


  
Mikey,You flatter yourself when you  imagine that I have not, already forgotten 
about you.

And I'm not "yapping at you'; again you are mistaken. I am enjoying myself. You 
do know that the whole purpose of life is the expansion of happiness.

Have fun!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Time

[lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]]

I've been watching a new kid's sports anime, "Baby Steps." 
 It tracks the trials and tribulations of a scholarly kid with OCD who decides 
he needs more exercise and discovers he has a true gift at playing tennis.
 

 As with all sports manga/anime, he rises exceptionally fast through the ranks, 
but as is the case with the best of them, it's not simply because he is gifted.
 

 A running gag [done humorously at least] in the anime is that due to his OCD 
he constantly works himself into total collapse unless his tennis-playing 
friends catch him in time and make him rest/eat/sleep/whatever.
 

 This isn't too far off from reality. Legend has it that the 18-year-old 
Segovia would practice guitar non-stop until he collapsed, and only would eat 
when his friends would show up and drag him off for a meal.
 

 

 As is also the case with the best sports anime/manga, the writer does a good 
job (as far as I can tell) of giving a reasonably true-to-life glimpse of how 
high-end amateur and professional  players in Japan  live, work, play and 
interact with friends, family and fellow players.
 

 Worth watching if you like that kind of thing.
 

 L
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I rented "Transcendence" last night on Blu-ray. Thought it was rather 
 "flat". It's like they had a hard time figuring out a concept for the 
 film. It is NOT BTW, a pro-Singularity movie.
 
 I've also been watching "From Dusk till Dawn", the series, on Netflix. 
 It's very entertaining. And also have been watching episodes of BBC's 
 "Happy Valley" also on Netflix which is also entertaining.

[FairfieldLife] Good Night Everyone

[danfriedman2002]

...Movement rules 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One

[danfriedman2002]

By George he's got it!I gotta say...the boy's sharp!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time

[danfriedman2002]

Mikey,You flatter yourself when you  imagine that I have not, already forgotten 
about you.

And I'm not "yapping at you'; again you are mistaken. I am enjoying myself. You 
do know that the whole purpose of life is the expansion of happiness.

Have fun!

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]]

Are you saying that MMY didn't believe his own rhetoric? 
 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A smarter person than one who takes the word of a huckster over their own good 
common sense.
 

 When I looked at the old posters of the TM-Siddhi advertisements offering and 
I quote: "develop enlightenment through the Transcendental Meditation program 
resulting in: Levitation, Invisibility, Mastery over Nature, Fulfillment of all 
Desires and Aspirations, Creation of an Ideal Society in the Age of 
Enlightenment"
 

 I thought "how could anyone have been stupid enough to believe that shit." And 
I admit I was. But fortunately I have woken from the ridiculous dream Marshy 
enticed everyone with and have gotten back to being grounded and living with 
common sense.  

 

 

 

 From: danfriedman2002 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism
 
 
   Help me out. What is the word for someone who prefers allegations over 
reality?

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[danfriedman2002]

"But fortunately I have woken from the ridiculous dream Marshy enticed everyone 
with and have gotten back to being grounded and living with common sense."REALLY

[FairfieldLife] Re: So you want to read this

[danfriedman2002]

My Dearest s3raphita,(I write this particular salutation in response to the 
graphic phrase in which you end your Post: "PS I have no problem telling pushy 
salespeople to fuck off", but let me be clear...I am not, nor have I ever been 
a salespeople.

Also, I do appreciate your consideration of us foreigners. Had you not 
explained that your Chelsea is in London, the entire story would have been 
nonsensical. In out Chelsea, Punk is highly respected, admired, adored, and 
respected (am I repeating too much, or do you get the point?)

I love Clark's Wallabees. 

I have a Size 13 foot.

(Oops, maybe that's not your desire.)

That is not a one-eyed smiley face, but rather a synonym for fetish,

Re fleetwood's "this fkn Yahoo Group has words overriding my screen": Ouch! 
Don't ever become a sub editor; those were the words of me.

And lastly, but not leastly...regarding words overriding my screen: I've 
noticed a lot of that recently, especially immediately following a posting from 
Richard J. Williams[!]. THAT;S BECAUSE HE JUST MAKES SHIT UP. IT'S LIKE A 
RANDOM SHIT-WORD GENERATOR.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One

[lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]]

I'm a 59 year old high schooler, I'm afraid. 
 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Everyone is wasting time directing comments to Michael that go on and on 
trying to contextualize his constant complaints or add comments that defend TM. 
The fact is that many TM teachers were unjustly dealt with by the TMO. All you 
have to remember is ATR - how it was promised to teachers, occurred for a small 
time and then cancelled so the TMO could buy a large four-color printer. If TM 
teachers were dealt with in such an uncaring way, then why would anyone have 
expected something different for the rest of TMers? As a case in point, I had a 
girlfriend in the mid to late '70's who worked on kitchen staff at MIU. The TMO 
was disingenuous and oppressive then and was the same later. Guess what - get 
over it.
 
 Michael acts like a high-school kid unable to move on to something else. He 
drank the kool-aid but didn't get a samâdhi of unending bliss. Gosh - can it be 
true? Unbelievable! Outrageous! Abomination!
  
 Perhaps people on FFL ought to consider moving on too. Michael gets his 
revenge by sodomizing FFL every day he posts his comments. Does anyone  
actually believe he has a valid purpose posting here? Why should anyone here 
care at all what he has to say? 

  
 FFLers ought to wake up and smell the espresso. Stop feeding popcorn to this 
fool and post something valuable. That in itself would cure FFL of this 50 yr 
old high-schooler. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

How do you know ATR was canceled so the Movement could buy the 4 color printer?




 From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:38 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One
 


  
Everyone is wasting time
directing comments to Michael that go on and on trying to contextualize his 
constant complaints or add
comments that defend TM. The fact is that many TM teachers were unjustly dealt 
with by the TMO. All you
have to remember is ATR - how it was promised to teachers, occurred for a small
time and then cancelled so the TMO could buy a large four-color printer. If TM
teachers were dealt with in such an uncaring way, then why would anyone have
expected something different for the rest of TMers? As a case in point, I had a
girlfriend in the mid to late '70's who worked on kitchen staff at MIU. The TMO
was disingenuous and oppressive then and was the same later. Guess what - get
over it.

Michael acts like a high-school kid unable to move on to something else. He
drank the kool-aid but didn't get a samâdhi of unending bliss. Gosh - can it be
true? Unbelievable! Outrageous! Abomination!
 
Perhaps people on FFL ought
to consider moving on too.Michael gets
his revenge by sodomizing FFL every day he posts his comments. Does anyone 
actually believe he has a valid purpose posting here? Why should anyone here 
care at all what he has to say? 

 
FFLers ought to wake up and
smell the espresso. Stop feeding popcorn to this fool and post something 
valuable.
That in itself would cure FFL of this 50 yr old high-schooler. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Then why waste time yapping at me? If you are a TM junkie like I was go 
meditate (with TM only of course) and forget about the likes of me.




 From: danfriedman2002 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time
 


  
Dear Michael,Why do you have this obsession to "do the Movement". I'm certain 
that no movement wants "anything to do with you".

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

A smarter person than one who takes the word of a huckster over their own good 
common sense.

When I looked at the old posters of the TM-Siddhi advertisements offering and I 
quote: "develop enlightenment through the Transcendental Meditation program 
resulting in: Levitation, Invisibility, Mastery over Nature, Fulfillment of all 
Desires and Aspirations, Creation of an Ideal Society in the Age of 
Enlightenment"

I thought "how could anyone have been stupid enough to believe that shit." And 
I admit I was. But fortunately I have woken from the ridiculous dream Marshy 
enticed everyone with and have gotten back to being grounded and living with 
common sense.  






 From: danfriedman2002 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism
 


  
Help me out. What is the word for someone who prefers allegations over reality?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time

[danfriedman2002]

Richard,As for my References: I'd ask that you make your inquiries with Bevan 
Morris and Craig Pearson, I'm sure they will have some lovely things to pass on.

And to respond directly to this particular Post of yours (although somewhat 
nasty in tone), your signature "That's all I can figure out." is quite 
tiresome. It only serves to point out the difficulty you have in keeping up. As 
a suggestion, it's best NOT to point out your slow...

[FairfieldLife] Re: So you want to read this

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re ", "I was loafing in a Clarks shoestore . . . ": Ouch! Don't ever become a 
sub editor. 
 Re fleetwood's "this fkn Yahoo Group has words overriding my screen": I've 
noticed a lot of that recently, especially immediately following a posting from 
Richard J. Williams[!]. Don't know if that is a coincidence or if his laptop is 
corrupted. Probably just another day in the new Yahoo Groups format I guess.
 

 Re my shoe shopping: in the first Clarks store I did indeed end up buying 
*two* pairs of shoes but that was because I was taken with them both (and have 
been pleased with my purchases ever since). The annoying thing is that I bet 
the sales assistant was patting himself on the back thinking it was all down to 
the success of his NLP underhand verbal dexterity and so has been encouraged to 
keep on using these odious techniques. And they are odious techniques.
 

 Re "pushy salespeople":  here's an example of the exact opposite. Some years 
ago a colleague of mine went into the upmarket Harvey Nichols in Chelsea 
(London). As she came through the main door she was met by the elegantly 
dressed and middle-aged floor attendant who immediately took her by the arm and 
saying "I don't think there's anything in here for you madam" turned her 
around, escorted her out the door and left her on the pavement [sidewalk] in 
shock. My friend wasn't some outrageously attired punk but your average 
conventionally dressed office worker but she was so stunned by what had 
happened she just walked away. I'm sure I would have told the bitch  "to fuck 
off, in the nicest possible way"!
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Should've started out by saying, "I was loafing in a Clarks shoestore on 
Oxford Street today...", thereby achieving the footwear trifecta.
  
 In any case, this is why they sell hot dog buns in packages of eight, and the 
hotdogs in packs of six. My favorite for extraneous purchases, are those 
furniture sliders, which everybody packs to use at the new place, only to find 
once they arrive, the sliders have been packed, can't be found, and now, 
another set must be purchased.
  
 PS I have no problem telling pushy salespeople to fuck off, in the nicest 
possible way, when warranted.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 I was in a Clarks shoe store on Oxford Street today trying on a couple of 
options for casual footwear suitable for the heatwave. I asked the assistant if 
I could try on a third style of shoe also and she said to me, "I'll just get 
them". Then, pointing to the two pairs I'd already tried on, she added, "So, 
you'll be wanting to take both of those." I had a moment of slight confusion 
but replied, "No, I'll just be getting the one pair but haven't decided which 
one yet." 
 

 What was odd is that a few months ago I'd been in another Clarks shoe store at 
the other end of Oxford Street in exactly the same situation - two styles of 
shoe tried and me ruminating and then me asking to try a third style - and the 
(different, male) assistant there had used exactly that expression: "So, you'll 
be wanting to take both of those." [Notice they both said "take those" and not 
"buy those", which latter phrase immediately brings to mind thoughts of money 
going from you to them and so activating an automatic resistance!]
 

 That can't be a coincidence can it? The same wording in the same chain? If you 
look at the expression used - "So, you'll be wanting to take both of those" - 
at a surface level it comes over as a question: "So, [will you] be wanting to 
[buy] both of those?" but surely it's actually an *embedded command*: "So, [you 
will be wanting] to take both of those" - which is how our subconscious absorbs 
it.
 

 The use of such sneaky methods has been popularized by the spread of NLP 
methodology. I felt pleased with myself for spotting this one but I wonder how 
many more I must be falling for every day.
 

 There is another possibility however. One day this FFL message may be used in 
court proceedings as clear evidence of my descent into paranoia and will see me 
forcibly sectioned under the Mental Health Act . . .
 

 
  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSbfqCO8XBI&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA&index=1
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSbfqCO8XBI&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA&index=1
 





   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Should've started out by saying, "I was loafing in a Clarks shoestore on 
Oxford Street today...", thereby achieving the footwear trifecta.
  
 In any case, this is why they sell hot dog buns in packages of eight, and the 
hotdogs in packs of six. My favorite for extraneous purchases, are those 
furniture sliders, which everybody packs to use at the new place, only to find 
once they arrive, the sliders have been packed, can't be found, and now, 
another set must be purchased.
  
 PS I have no problem telling pushy salespeople to fuck off, in the nicest 
possible way, when warranted.

---In FairfieldLife@ya

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One

[srijau]

yes and yes

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[danfriedman2002]

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sun 24-Aug-14 00:15:07 UTC

[danfriedman2002]

29 Michael Jackson mjackson7424 'Richard J. Williams' punditster

What a waste of words. What a waste of breath. What a waste of...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One

[danfriedman2002]

What?I thought he is a high schooler. I 
stand corrected.



P.S. While I agree with your observations, I must politely differ with your 
conclusion, for the obvious reasons: 

"post something valuable. That in itself would cure FFL".

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 6:59 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:


Richard,

I expect that you can't "figure". Sorry that your Informants don't 
know enough about me to provide the gossip you just crave.

>
Informants are supposed to provide information - that's the purpose of a 
news group or a discussion group. Some people just feel better when they 
have someone to talk to. That's all I can figure out.

>

[FairfieldLife] Saying Goodbye to the Ridiculous One

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Everyone is wasting time directing comments to Michael that go on and on trying 
to contextualize his constant complaints or add comments that defend TM. The 
fact is that many TM teachers were unjustly dealt with by the TMO. All you have 
to remember is ATR - how it was promised to teachers, occurred for a small time 
and then cancelled so the TMO could buy a large four-color printer. If TM 
teachers were dealt with in such an uncaring way, then why would anyone have 
expected something different for the rest of TMers? As a case in point, I had a 
girlfriend in the mid to late '70's who worked on kitchen staff at MIU. The TMO 
was disingenuous and oppressive then and was the same later. Guess what - get 
over it.
 
 Michael acts like a high-school kid unable to move on to something else. He 
drank the kool-aid but didn't get a samâdhi of unending bliss. Gosh - can it be 
true? Unbelievable! Outrageous! Abomination!
  
 Perhaps people on FFL ought to consider moving on too. Michael gets his 
revenge by sodomizing FFL every day he posts his comments. Does anyone  
actually believe he has a valid purpose posting here? Why should anyone here 
care at all what he has to say? 

  
 FFLers ought to wake up and smell the espresso. Stop feeding popcorn to this 
fool and post something valuable. That in itself would cure FFL of this 50 yr 
old high-schooler. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[danfriedman2002]

Let's see:"See you later allegations
In a while crocolations"

I'm goog with that.

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

An allegator?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Help me out. What is the word for someone who prefers allegations over reality?

[FairfieldLife] Re: So you want to read this

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Should've started out by saying, "I was loafing in a Clarks shoestore on Oxford 
Street today...", thereby achieving the footwear trifecta. 
  
 In any case, this is why they sell hot dog buns in packages of eight, and the 
hotdogs in packs of six. My favorite for extraneous purchases, are those 
furniture sliders, which everybody packs to use at the new place, only to find 
once they arrive, the sliders have been packed, can't be found, and now, 
another set must be purchased.
  
 PS I have no problem telling pushy salespeople to fuck off, in the nicest 
possible way, when warranted.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 I was in a Clarks shoe store on Oxford Street today trying on a couple of 
options for casual footwear suitable for the heatwave. I asked the assistant if 
I could try on a third style of shoe also and she said to me, "I'll just get 
them". Then, pointing to the two pairs I'd already tried on, she added, "So, 
you'll be wanting to take both of those." I had a moment of slight confusion 
but replied, "No, I'll just be getting the one pair but haven't decided which 
one yet." 
 

 What was odd is that a few months ago I'd been in another Clarks shoe store at 
the other end of Oxford Street in exactly the same situation - two styles of 
shoe tried and me ruminating and then me asking to try a third style - and the 
(different, male) assistant there had used exactly that expression: "So, you'll 
be wanting to take both of those." [Notice they both said "take those" and not 
"buy those", which latter phrase immediately brings to mind thoughts of money 
going from you to them and so activating an automatic resistance!]
 

 That can't be a coincidence can it? The same wording in the same chain? If you 
look at the expression used - "So, you'll be wanting to take both of those" - 
at a surface level it comes over as a question: "So, [will you] be wanting to 
[buy] both of those?" but surely it's actually an *embedded command*: "So, [you 
will be wanting] to take both of those" - which is how our subconscious absorbs 
it.
 

 The use of such sneaky methods has been popularized by the spread of NLP 
methodology. I felt pleased with myself for spotting this one but I wonder how 
many more I must be falling for every day.
 

 There is another possibility however. One day this FFL message may be used in 
court proceedings as clear evidence of my descent into paranoia and will see me 
forcibly sectioned under the Mental Health Act . . .
 

 
  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSbfqCO8XBI&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA&index=1
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSbfqCO8XBI&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA&index=1
 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: To Anyone, was To Richard

[danfriedman2002]

thanks for this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time

[danfriedman2002]

Richard, 
 I expect that you can't "figure". Sorry that your Informants don't know enough 
about me to provide the gossip you just crave.

[FairfieldLife] Re: So you want to read this

[danfriedman2002]

Everyone should be Aware...that is certainly NOT BEING PARANOID! Here in NYC 
the BULLSHIT takes a different form. Tonight's example is "I can get you more 
wine, sir", not at all asking what I'd like, but instead making me have to 
disagree to get what I really want. Followed by "Do you want change?", assuming 
that I intended to leave a 54$ gratuity. I had to fight (or at least insist) to 
get MY 54$. 
 Also, this fkn Yahoo Group has words overriding my screen. And I'm not just 
being paranoid. Who is causing THAT!!!

[FairfieldLife] So you want to read this

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I was in a Clarks shoe store on Oxford Street today trying on a couple of 
options for casual footwear suitable for the heatwave. I asked the assistant if 
I could try on a third style of shoe also and she said to me, "I'll just get 
them". Then, pointing to the two pairs I'd already tried on, she added, "So, 
you'll be wanting to take both of those." I had a moment of slight confusion 
but replied, "No, I'll just be getting the one pair but haven't decided which 
one yet." 
 

 What was odd is that a few months ago I'd been in another Clarks shoe store at 
the other end of Oxford Street in exactly the same situation - two styles of 
shoe tried and me ruminating and then me asking to try a third style - and the 
(different, male) assistant there had used exactly that expression: "So, you'll 
be wanting to take both of those." [Notice they both said "take those" and not 
"buy those", which latter phrase immediately brings to mind thoughts of money 
going from you to them and so activating an automatic resistance!]
 

 That can't be a coincidence can it? The same wording in the same chain? If you 
look at the expression used - "So, you'll be wanting to take both of those" - 
at a surface level it comes over as a question: "So, [will you] be wanting to 
[buy] both of those?" but surely it's actually an *embedded command*: "So, [you 
will be wanting] to take both of those" - which is how our subconscious absorbs 
it.
 

 The use of such sneaky methods has been popularized by the spread of NLP 
methodology. I felt pleased with myself for spotting this one but I wonder how 
many more I must be falling for every day.
 

 There is another possibility however. One day this FFL message may be used in 
court proceedings as clear evidence of my descent into paranoia and will see me 
forcibly sectioned under the Mental Health Act . . .
 

 
  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSbfqCO8XBI&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA&index=1
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSbfqCO8XBI&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA&index=1
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 3:17 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Im on my way to a friend's house for dinner and to watch The 
Movement's favorite TM cowboy Clint Eastwood's fine western Unforgiven 
that my friend has never seen

>
So, we now know what you do on Saturday nights. Go figure.
>


If only I could do the Movement the way Little Bill does English Bob 
in the street in Big Whiskey. Whooo! That's a siddhi for you!



*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:42 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Movie Time

I rented "Transcendence" last night on Blu-ray. Thought it was rather
"flat". It's like they had a hard time figuring out a concept for the
film. It is NOT BTW, a pro-Singularity movie.

I've also been watching "From Dusk till Dawn", the series, on Netflix.
It's very entertaining. And also have been watching episodes of BBC's
"Happy Valley" also on Netflix which is also entertaining.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 3:41 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:


Dear Michael, Why do you have this obsession to "do the Movement". I'm 
certain that no movement wants "anything to do with you".



>
Apparently he just got a computer a few months ago and he's been on a 
FFL posting binge for a few months. According to my sources nobody in 
the movement ever even heard of him. Now that Judy and Barry are no 
longer around maybe he thinks he wants to take over the discussion group 
and be the spiritual leader he never was before. Maybe he has at last 
found his true calling. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 2:42 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:


I rented "Transcendence" last night on Blu-ray. Thought it was rather
"flat". It's like they had a hard time figuring out a concept for the
film. It is NOT BTW, a pro-Singularity movie.

I've also been watching "From Dusk till Dawn", the series, on Netflix.
It's very entertaining. And also have been watching episodes of BBC's
"Happy Valley" also on Netflix which is also entertaining.



>
We saw it on the big screen and had a good time. "Kurzweil's notion of a 
singularity is taken from cosmology, in which it signifies a border in 
space-time beyond which normal rules of measurement do not apply."


Singularity:
http://tinyurl.com/6tzh4g2

Re: [FairfieldLife] Angry

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 2:31 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Name all the ones you have developed and to what degree you have 
developed them. And how do you know I am not an already realized soul, 
replete with all the siddhis?

>
Maybe it's time to view some credentials. If you could fly or levitate 
you wouldn't have had to take the Greyhound bus back home to S.C. when 
you got kicked off the MIU campus.

>



*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 2:49 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Angry

Richard, I read all of your posts cuz some of them are pretty darn 
funny, actually make me LOL. As for poor Michael, he obviously doesn't 
realize that, at least from my experience, one can develop siddhis 
that one is even not practicing! Go figger.



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 1:33 PM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]"  
wrote:



On 8/23/2014 11:28 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I am ticked off that I didn't get the one from understanding the 
language of animals

>
Prejudice: /a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or 
actual experience./


"The word is often used to refer to preconceived, usually unfavorable, 
judgments toward people or a person because of gender, political 
opinion, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, 
race/ethnicity, language, nationality or other personal characteristics."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice
>



FriendlinessTo develop friendliness
Compassion  To develop compassion
Happiness   To develop happiness
The Strength of an Elephant To develop superhuman strength
The Bronchial Tube  To develop calmness
The Trachea To develop control of hunger and thirst
The Navel   To develop knowledge of the body
On Soma so that Soma Flows Everywhere   To develop the flow of soma
The Coronal Light   To see sidhas
Inner Light To develop knowledge of things hidden from view
The Sun to develop knowledge of cosmic visions (lokas)
The MoonTo develop knowledge of arrangement of stars
The Pole Star   To develop knowledge of motion of stars
The Three-fold Parinamas (or Changes) 	To develop knowledge of past 
and future

The Heart   To develop knowledge of the mind
The Appearance of the Body  To develop invisiibility
Word...Object Implied...the Idea Thereof Overlapping 	To develop 
knowledge of language of animals and all beings

The Conquering of the Vital Force SamanaTo develop effulgence
The Distinction Between Buddhi & Purusha 	To develop discriminative 
enlightenment

Purusha & Intuition To develop prescience
PurushaDivine Hearing   To develop clairaudience
PurushaDivine Touch To develop divine touch
PurushaDivine Sight To develop divine sight
PurushaDivine Taste To develop divine taste
PurushaDivine Smell To develop divine smell
On Relationship of Body and AkashaLightness of Cotton Fiber 	To 
develop levitation

Soma, Soma, SomaTo develop soma and smooth "unstressing"


Rest in Shavasana 15 min or longer

Re: [FairfieldLife] Angry

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 1:49 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Richard, I read all of your posts cuz some of them are pretty darn 
funny, actually make me LOL.

>
Thanks. I just enjoy pointing out that anything, when taken to extremes, 
will be found to be self-contradictory.

>
As for poor Michael, he obviously doesn't realize that, at least from 
my experience, one can develop siddhis that one is even not 
practicing! Go figger.

>
Maybe he doesn't realize that the first phase of /Kung Foo levitation/ 
is to be able to do some squats. Go figure.

>



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 1:33 PM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]"  
wrote:



On 8/23/2014 11:28 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I am ticked off that I didn't get the one from understanding the 
language of animals

>
Prejudice: /a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or 
actual experience./


"The word is often used to refer to preconceived, usually unfavorable, 
judgments toward people or a person because of gender, political 
opinion, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, 
race/ethnicity, language, nationality or other personal characteristics."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice
>



FriendlinessTo develop friendliness
Compassion  To develop compassion
Happiness   To develop happiness
The Strength of an Elephant To develop superhuman strength
The Bronchial Tube  To develop calmness
The Trachea To develop control of hunger and thirst
The Navel   To develop knowledge of the body
On Soma so that Soma Flows Everywhere   To develop the flow of soma
The Coronal Light   To see sidhas
Inner Light To develop knowledge of things hidden from view
The Sun to develop knowledge of cosmic visions (lokas)
The MoonTo develop knowledge of arrangement of stars
The Pole Star   To develop knowledge of motion of stars
The Three-fold Parinamas (or Changes) 	To develop knowledge of past 
and future

The Heart   To develop knowledge of the mind
The Appearance of the Body  To develop invisiibility
Word...Object Implied...the Idea Thereof Overlapping 	To develop 
knowledge of language of animals and all beings

The Conquering of the Vital Force SamanaTo develop effulgence
The Distinction Between Buddhi & Purusha 	To develop discriminative 
enlightenment

Purusha & Intuition To develop prescience
PurushaDivine Hearing   To develop clairaudience
PurushaDivine Touch To develop divine touch
PurushaDivine Sight To develop divine sight
PurushaDivine Taste To develop divine taste
PurushaDivine Smell To develop divine smell
On Relationship of Body and AkashaLightness of Cotton Fiber 	To 
develop levitation

Soma, Soma, SomaTo develop soma and smooth "unstressing"


Rest in Shavasana 15 min or longer

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time

[danfriedman2002]

Dear Michael,Why do you have this obsession to "do the Movement". I'm certain 
that no movement wants "anything to do with you".

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Im on my way to a friend's house for dinner and to watch The Movement's 
favorite TM cowboy Clint Eastwood's fine western Unforgiven that my friend has 
never seen

If only I could do the Movement the way Little Bill does English Bob in the 
street in Big Whiskey. Whooo! That's a siddhi for you!




 From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time
 


  
I rented "Transcendence" last night on Blu-ray.  Thought it was rather 
"flat".  It's like they had a hard time figuring out a concept for the 
film.  It is NOT BTW, a pro-Singularity movie.

I've also been watching "From Dusk till Dawn", the series, on Netflix. 
It's very entertaining.  And also have been watching episodes of BBC's 
"Happy Valley" also on Netflix which is also entertaining.

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[danfriedman2002]

Help me out. What is the word for someone who prefers allegations over reality?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Time

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Bhairitu, today I'm watching one of my favorite legal thrillers of all time, 
John Grisham's Runaway Jury with an amazing cast of John Cusak, Gene Hackman 
and Dustin Hoffman.



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 2:42 PM, "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
I rented "Transcendence" last night on Blu-ray.  Thought it was rather 
"flat".  It's like they had a hard time figuring out a concept for the 
film.  It is NOT BTW, a pro-Singularity movie.

I've also been watching "From Dusk till Dawn", the series, on Netflix. 
It's very entertaining.  And also have been watching episodes of BBC's 
"Happy Valley" also on Netflix which is also entertaining.

[FairfieldLife] Movie Time

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

I rented "Transcendence" last night on Blu-ray.  Thought it was rather 
"flat".  It's like they had a hard time figuring out a concept for the 
film.  It is NOT BTW, a pro-Singularity movie.

I've also been watching "From Dusk till Dawn", the series, on Netflix.  
It's very entertaining.  And also have been watching episodes of BBC's 
"Happy Valley" also on Netflix which is also entertaining.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Angry

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Name all the ones you have developed and to what degree you have developed 
them. And how do you know I am not an already realized soul, replete with all 
the siddhis?




 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Angry
 


  
Richard, I read all of your posts cuz some of them are pretty darn funny, 
actually make me LOL. As for poor Michael, he obviously doesn't realize that, 
at least from my experience, one can develop siddhis that one is even not 
practicing! Go figger.



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 1:33 PM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
On 8/23/2014 11:28 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

  
>I am ticked off that I didn't get the one from understanding the language of 
>animals
>
Prejudice: a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual 
experience.

"The word is often used to refer to preconceived, usually
unfavorable, judgments toward people or a person because of gender,
political opinion, social class, age, disability, religion,
sexuality, race/ethnicity, language, nationality or other personal
characteristics."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice
>



>
>Friendliness To develop friendliness 
>Compassion To develop compassion 
>Happiness To develop happiness 
>The Strength of an Elephant To develop superhuman strength 
>The Bronchial Tube To develop calmness 
>The Trachea To develop control of hunger and thirst 
>The Navel To develop knowledge of the body 
>On Soma so that Soma Flows Everywhere To develop the flow of soma 
>The Coronal Light To see sidhas 
>Inner Light To develop knowledge of things hidden from view 
>The Sun to develop knowledge of cosmic visions (lokas) 
>The Moon To develop knowledge of arrangement of stars 
>The Pole Star To develop knowledge of motion of stars 
>The Three-fold Parinamas (or Changes) To develop knowledge of past and future 
>The Heart To develop knowledge of the mind 
>The Appearance of the Body To develop invisiibility 
>Word...Object Implied...the Idea Thereof Overlapping To develop knowledge of 
>language of animals and all beings 
>The Conquering of the Vital Force Samana To develop effulgence 
>The Distinction Between Buddhi & Purusha To develop discriminative 
>enlightenment 
>Purusha & Intuition To develop prescience 
>PurushaDivine Hearing  To develop clairaudience 
>PurushaDivine Touch To develop divine touch 
>PurushaDivine Sight To develop divine sight 
>PurushaDivine Taste To develop divine taste 
>PurushaDivine Smell To develop divine smell 
>On Relationship of Body and AkashaLightness of Cotton Fiber To develop 
>levitation 
>Soma, Soma, Soma To develop soma and smooth "unstressing" 
>Rest in Shavasana 15 min or longer 
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] opinion of oprah

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

What does "level headed" mean?  Does it mean that Salvy sports a flat 
top? :-D


To be fair we are forgetting that Salvy enjoys a really different health 
care system than we have in "for profit" America.  If he lived here he 
might well be on the side of us who support alternative therapies 
especially if he got charged $100 (or more) for a doctor seeing him for 
2 minutes.



On 08/23/2014 10:48 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I post this mainly in hopes that level headed science appreciator Sal 
and starry eyed quackery fan Share will give us their considered (and 
one would assume) entirely opposite opinions


http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement

image 







Oprah Winfrey ruins 2013 Harvard commencement 
 

Last year’s Harvard Commencement keynote speech -- a trite, 
forgettable, and platitudinous monologue delivered by journalist 
Fareed Zakaria -- wafted inoffensiv


View on www.examiner.com 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Angry

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

The first one is a Vashikaran siddhi. So that means that all the 
TM-Sidhi folks are Vamacharis. :-D


On 08/23/2014 09:28 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I am ticked off that I didn't get the one from understanding the 
language of animals


FriendlinessTo develop friendliness
Compassion  To develop compassion
Happiness   To develop happiness
The Strength of an Elephant To develop superhuman strength
The Bronchial Tube  To develop calmness
The Trachea To develop control of hunger and thirst
The Navel   To develop knowledge of the body
On Soma so that Soma Flows Everywhere   To develop the flow of soma
The Coronal Light   To see sidhas
Inner Light To develop knowledge of things hidden from view
The Sun to develop knowledge of cosmic visions (lokas)
The MoonTo develop knowledge of arrangement of stars
The Pole Star   To develop knowledge of motion of stars
The Three-fold Parinamas (or Changes) 	To develop knowledge of past 
and future

The Heart   To develop knowledge of the mind
The Appearance of the Body  To develop invisiibility
Word...Object Implied...the Idea Thereof Overlapping 	To develop 
knowledge of language of animals and all beings

The Conquering of the Vital Force SamanaTo develop effulgence
The Distinction Between Buddhi & Purusha 	To develop discriminative 
enlightenment

Purusha & Intuition To develop prescience
PurushaDivine Hearing   To develop clairaudience
PurushaDivine Touch To develop divine touch
PurushaDivine Sight To develop divine sight
PurushaDivine Taste To develop divine taste
PurushaDivine Smell To develop divine smell
On Relationship of Body and AkashaLightness of Cotton Fiber 	To 
develop levitation

Soma, Soma, SomaTo develop soma and smooth "unstressing"


Rest in Shavasana 15 min or longer

Re: [FairfieldLife] Angry

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Richard, I read all of your posts cuz some of them are pretty darn funny, 
actually make me LOL. As for poor Michael, he obviously doesn't realize that, 
at least from my experience, one can develop siddhis that one is even not 
practicing! Go figger.



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 1:33 PM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
On 8/23/2014 11:28 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

  
>I am ticked off that I didn't get the one from understanding the language of 
>animals
>
Prejudice: a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual 
experience.

"The word is often used to refer to preconceived, usually
unfavorable, judgments toward people or a person because of gender,
political opinion, social class, age, disability, religion,
sexuality, race/ethnicity, language, nationality or other personal
characteristics."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice
>



>
>Friendliness To develop friendliness 
>Compassion To develop compassion 
>Happiness To develop happiness 
>The Strength of an Elephant To develop superhuman strength 
>The Bronchial Tube To develop calmness 
>The Trachea To develop control of hunger and thirst 
>The Navel To develop knowledge of the body 
>On Soma so that Soma Flows Everywhere To develop the flow of soma 
>The Coronal Light To see sidhas 
>Inner Light To develop knowledge of things hidden from view 
>The Sun to develop knowledge of cosmic visions (lokas) 
>The Moon To develop knowledge of arrangement of stars 
>The Pole Star To develop knowledge of motion of stars 
>The Three-fold Parinamas (or Changes) To develop knowledge of past and future 
>The Heart To develop knowledge of the mind 
>The Appearance of the Body To develop invisiibility 
>Word...Object Implied...the Idea Thereof Overlapping To develop knowledge of 
>language of animals and all beings 
>The Conquering of the Vital Force Samana To develop effulgence 
>The Distinction Between Buddhi & Purusha To develop discriminative 
>enlightenment 
>Purusha & Intuition To develop prescience 
>PurushaDivine Hearing  To develop clairaudience 
>PurushaDivine Touch To develop divine touch 
>PurushaDivine Sight To develop divine sight 
>PurushaDivine Taste To develop divine taste 
>PurushaDivine Smell To develop divine smell 
>On Relationship of Body and AkashaLightness of Cotton Fiber To develop 
>levitation 
>Soma, Soma, Soma To develop soma and smooth "unstressing" 
>Rest in Shavasana 15 min or longer 
>
>

[FairfieldLife] To Richard

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You are wasting your time and energy - I delete all of your idiotic posts 
unread now.

Re: [FairfieldLife] opinion of oprah

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 12:48 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I post this mainly in hopes that level headed science appreciator Sal 
and starry eyed quackery fan Share will give us their considered (and 
one would assume) entirely opposite opinions

>
Prejudice: a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual 
experience.


The word is often used to refer to preconceived, usually unfavorable, 
judgments toward people or a person because of gender, political 
opinion, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, 
race/ethnicity, language, nationality or other personal characteristics.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice
>



http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement

image 







Oprah Winfrey ruins 2013 Harvard commencement 
 

Last year’s Harvard Commencement keynote speech -- a trite, 
forgettable, and platitudinous monologue delivered by journalist 
Fareed Zakaria -- wafted inoffensiv


View on www.examiner.com 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Angry

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 11:28 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I am ticked off that I didn't get the one from understanding the 
language of animals

>
Prejudice: /a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual 
experience./


"The word is often used to refer to preconceived, usually unfavorable, 
judgments toward people or a person because of gender, political 
opinion, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, 
race/ethnicity, language, nationality or other personal characteristics."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice
>



FriendlinessTo develop friendliness
Compassion  To develop compassion
Happiness   To develop happiness
The Strength of an Elephant To develop superhuman strength
The Bronchial Tube  To develop calmness
The Trachea To develop control of hunger and thirst
The Navel   To develop knowledge of the body
On Soma so that Soma Flows Everywhere   To develop the flow of soma
The Coronal Light   To see sidhas
Inner Light To develop knowledge of things hidden from view
The Sun to develop knowledge of cosmic visions (lokas)
The MoonTo develop knowledge of arrangement of stars
The Pole Star   To develop knowledge of motion of stars
The Three-fold Parinamas (or Changes) 	To develop knowledge of past 
and future

The Heart   To develop knowledge of the mind
The Appearance of the Body  To develop invisiibility
Word...Object Implied...the Idea Thereof Overlapping 	To develop 
knowledge of language of animals and all beings

The Conquering of the Vital Force SamanaTo develop effulgence
The Distinction Between Buddhi & Purusha 	To develop discriminative 
enlightenment

Purusha & Intuition To develop prescience
PurushaDivine Hearing   To develop clairaudience
PurushaDivine Touch To develop divine touch
PurushaDivine Sight To develop divine sight
PurushaDivine Taste To develop divine taste
PurushaDivine Smell To develop divine smell
On Relationship of Body and AkashaLightness of Cotton Fiber 	To 
develop levitation

Soma, Soma, SomaTo develop soma and smooth "unstressing"


Rest in Shavasana 15 min or longer

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 11:20 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Ann feels differently, so do I.

>
Inference: the process of inferring something; deduction, conjecture, 
speculation, guess, presumption, assumption, supposition, or extrapolation.

>



*From:* danfriedman2002 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:48 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

Pure Subjectivity (and not the Good Kind)

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 11:19 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
It is pretty good - although unless I missed it the writer left out 
the allegations that Marshy loved to dip the proverbial wick.

>
Non sequitur. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the 
premises or evidence. It has not been established that Marshy had a wick 
to dip. However, it has been established that the informant is obsessed 
with the wick of others.

>




*From:* "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:27 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

http://www.has.vcu.edu/wrs/profiles/TranscendentalMeditation.htm

image 





World Religions & Spirituality | Transcendental Meditati... 

TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION TIMELINE 1918 
(?)  Founder Mahesh Prasad Varma (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) was b...


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This is an excellent synopsis and fills in some missing pieces for me 
chronologically and otherwise. I'll take a better look at it later but 
skimming through it appears very clear and objective as far as 
explanations and history of the Movement. Good find.


*From:* "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:51 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

Michael, who were you quoting when you wrote: evidence of this 
millennial age of peace, prosperity, and happiness has proven 
difficult to document.



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:44 AM, "Share Long sharelong60@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



Michael, you say that better times are difficult to document? Maybe 
this will help:
5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History 



image 







5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History 
 

Here are five simple, powerful reasons why you should believe the 
world has never been better -- and is getting better still.


View on thinkprogress.org 



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On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:32 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



This claim that the group practice of the TM sidhis can produce a new 
age is an example of what scholars call “progressive millennialism,” 
the belief that the world can gradually be brought to a state of 
perfection.


However, Maharishi’s teachings are never so easy to categorize; he has 
also periodically issued emergency calls for sidhi practitioners to 
gather by the thousands for World Peace Assemblies in order to prevent 
the outbreak of wars and other imminent calamities.


Scholars call this form of radical preventive action “avertive 
millennialism.”


Devoted practitioners of TM believe that several catastrophes have 
been prevented by group meditation assemblies over the last four 
decades. Although Maharishi (1976) repeatedly declared that the “Age 
of Enlightenment” has already dawned, evidence of this millennial age 
of peace, prosperity, and happiness has proven difficult to document.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 11:18 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


This is not some closed up commune surrounded by barbed wire

That's just for the pundits

>
 Maybe the barbed wire fence is to keep you away from the pundit boys. 
Apparently you can't even be trusted with baking cup cakes. Go figure.

>



*From:* "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:16 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

A visitor to Fairfield, Iowa, the nearby Maharishi Vedic City, or 
other TM communities will see that, in practice, Maharishi’s teachings 
can, and do, provide a totalistic, highly prescriptive, all-consuming 
lifestyle for thousands of devoted followers of the Movement.


For these practitioners of TM, meditation, the sidhis, and the wide 
range of related practices and services constitute a complete 
spiritual path, an “ultimate concern,” whether you call it a religion 
or not.


In its dealings with meditators fully committed to TM, the Movement 
can be highly controlling and intolerant of deviations, encouraging 
orthodox thinking and enforcing orthopraxy. By most standards, TM 
looks and behaves like a new religious movement, at least for its most 
devout followers.


Here is what I observe from old acquaintances that I see all the time 
on FB (you can learn a lot by looking at pics, seeing what they post, 
what their interests are, what their philosophy is) and who live in 
FF. They are my age or older and have a long history with TM and some 
are former students of MIU. These are people that either never left FF 
for three or four decades or who went out in the world and moved back. 
My sense is that they desire community. They like the small town feel, 
the fact that you can stroll the entire downtown in about 20 minutes 
at most and that they know/recognize virtually everyone, at least from 
their familiar faces. Lots of these people enjoy the comraderie of 
their peers who have, at one time or another, been interested in 
spiritual things. Some are artists, some are business people some are 
simply raising or have raised a family. This is not some closed up 
commune surrounded by barbed wire inhabited by gun-toting crazies 
convinced the world is going to end or that they have to divorce 
themselves from the rest of humanity. Many of those living in FF are 
mature, grown up people in their 50's and 60's who have pretty much 
seen all the paroxysms the Movement has gone through over the years 
and has taken what is useful and has moved on from the rest. Granted, 
I am speaking not from having been there recently but by my 
interactions with at least 5-6 people online who are there as well as 
having attended a huge MIU reunion of the class of 1979-1980 in Santa 
Barbara about 5 years ago (160-200 people were there for 2-3 days of 
eating, drinking and reminiscing). Most of those attending were people 
currently living in California and many were involved in some aspect 
of the movie industry (aren't they all) but many were still meditating 
and thought fondly of their time at MIU. These were not devout 
followers of some pseudo religion just as most of the old friends 
living in FF that I have recently interacted with are not fanatical. 
They're just doing what they want to do in a place where old friends 
have ended up due to all the reasons I stated above. I think it would 
be a really worthwhile expedition for you to go back to FF for a week 
on a fact-finding tour. Hang out, go to events, see if you can get on 
campus. Do whatever you can to get a real feel for the joint. It could 
be a hoot. I'd love to hear your stories. In fact, I should go back 
sometime too, but not in the dead of winter. I had enough of those 
when I lived there.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

A visitor to Fairfield, Iowa, the nearby Maharishi Vedic City, or 
other TM communities will see that, in practice, Maharishi’s teachings 
can, and do, provide a totalistic, highly prescriptive, all-consuming 
lifestyle for thousands of devoted followers of the Movement.


For these practitioners of TM, meditation, the sidhis, and the wide 
range of related practices and services constitute a complete 
spiritual path, an “ultimate concern,” whether you call it a religion 
or not.


In its dealings with meditators fully committed to TM, the Movement 
can be highly controlling and intolerant of deviations, encouraging 
orthodox thinking and enforcing orthopraxy. By most standards, TM 
looks and behaves like a new religious movement, at least for its most 
devout followers.

>
On 8/23/2014 10:16 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>


Here is what I observe from old acquaintances that I see all the time 
on FB (you can learn a lot by looking at pics, seeing what they post, 
what their interests are, what their philosophy is) and who live in 
FF. They are my age or older and have a long history with TM and some 
are former students of MIU. These are people that either never left FF 
for three or four decades or who went out in the world and moved back. 
My sense is that they desire community. They like the small town feel, 
the fact that you can stroll the entire downtown in about 20 minutes 
at most and that they know/recognize virtually everyone, at least from 
their familiar faces. Lots of these people enjoy the comraderie of 
their peers who have, at one time or another, been interested in 
spiritual things. Some are artists, some are business people some are 
simply raising or have raised a family. This is not some closed up 
commune surrounded by barbed wire inhabited by gun-toting crazies 
convinced the world is going to end or that they have to divorce 
themselves from the rest of humanity. Many of those living in FF are 
mature, grown up people in their 50's and 60's who have pretty much 
seen all the paroxysms the Movement has gone through over the years 
and has taken what is useful and has moved on from the rest. Granted, 
I am speaking not from having been there recently but by my 
interactions with at least 5-6 people online who are there as well as 
having attended a huge MIU reunion of the class of 1979-1980 in Santa 
Barbara about 5 years ago (160-200 people were there for 2-3 days of 
eating, drinking and reminiscing). Most of those attending were people 
currently living in California and many were involved in some aspect 
of the movie industry (aren't they all) but many were still meditating 
and thought fondly of their time at MIU. These were not devout 
followers of some pseudo religion just as most of the old friends 
living in FF that I have recently interacted with are not fanatical. 
They're just doing what they want to do in a place where old friends 
have ended up due to all the reasons I stated above. I think it would 
be a really worthwhile expedition for you to go back to FF for a week 
on a fact-finding tour. Hang out, go to events, see if you can get on 
campus. Do whatever you can to get a real feel for the joint. It could 
be a hoot. I'd love to hear your stories. In fact, I should go back 
sometime too, but not in the dead of winter. I had enough of those 
when I lived there.

>
Even if he could afford the bus fare to go back to Fairfield, I'm not 
sure he would be allowed on campus after the defamation he posted to FFL 
about Morris and Hegelin. He doesn't seem to want to talk about why he 
was kicked out and banned from the campus in the first place. I guess he 
could disguise himself to look like "Michael Jackson" and maybe nobody 
would recognize him, but he would probably have to wear a wig, shades 
and a glove. Go figure.

>

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 9:46 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

I didn't say it - I posted a quote.

>
Where I come from, silence usually indicates agreement, so apparently he 
agrees - /2013 was the best year in human history/. So, maybe he doesn't 
want to talk about the bad times he is now having in 2014. Go figure.

>



*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:44 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

Michael, you say that better times are difficult to document? Maybe 
this will help:
5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History 



image 







5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History 
 

Here are five simple, powerful reasons why you should believe the 
world has never been better -- and is getting better still.


View on thinkprogress.org 



Preview by Yahoo



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:32 AM, "Michael Jackson 
mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"  
wrote:



This claim that the group practice of the TM sidhis can produce a new 
age is an example of what scholars call “progressive millennialism,” 
the belief that the world can gradually be brought to a state of 
perfection.


However, Maharishi’s teachings are never so easy to categorize; he has 
also periodically issued emergency calls for sidhi practitioners to 
gather by the thousands for World Peace Assemblies in order to prevent 
the outbreak of wars and other imminent calamities.


Scholars call this form of radical preventive action “avertive 
millennialism.”


Devoted practitioners of TM believe that several catastrophes have 
been prevented by group meditation assemblies over the last four 
decades. Although Maharishi (1976) repeatedly declared that the “Age 
of Enlightenment” has already dawned, evidence of this millennial age 
of peace, prosperity, and happiness has proven difficult to document.

[FairfieldLife] opinion of oprah

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I post this mainly in hopes that level headed science appreciator Sal and 
starry eyed quackery fan Share will give us their considered (and one would 
assume) entirely opposite opinions

http://www.examiner.com/article/oprah-winfrey-ruins-2013-harvard-commencement
  
             
Oprah Winfrey ruins 2013 Harvard commencement
Last year’s Harvard Commencement keynote speech -- a trite, forgettable, and 
platitudinous monologue delivered by journalist Fareed Zakaria -- wafted 
inoffensiv  
View on www.examiner.com Preview by Yahoo  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 9:54 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Michael, that must be very time consuming since there are several 
leaders! And are you still living in SC? Or should we assume you use 
remote viewing? Spy drones? Goggle maps? Satellites?

>
Maybe he uses levitation so he can slowly rise up off his sofa and then 
fly over their house in Vedic City for a few minutes at night when 
nobody can see him and then he flies back home to S.C. and writes up his 
reports for the science writer.

>



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:46 AM, "Michael Jackson 
mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"  
wrote:



All of them, but I have to hold my nose when I do it.


*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:33 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

Michael, which present day TMO leaders are you currently observing?


On Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:27 AM, "Michael Jackson 
mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"  
wrote:



Judging by the behavior of the TMO leaders, TM practice increases 
stress or at least unethical behavior.



*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:10 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

Michael, the alleged "TM glow" in my eyes also did not prevent me from 
reading your entire accompanying comment! Which imo insinuated 
something about the present state of the TMO.


As for time and past events, my understanding is that traumas and 
traumatic beliefs from past events can be stored in the nervous 
system. TM is a good way to release those.



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 6:51 AM, "Michael Jackson 
mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"  
wrote:



How does time negate the real behavior of the TMO? I posted it as a 
piece of TM history - did the TM glow in your eyes prevent you from 
reading that?



*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:03 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

Lawson, I read a piece that was dated 2003! So I guess salyavin was 
right. It was a "brilliant find." Cuz MJ had to only dig back ONE 
decade. Rather than 2, 3 or 4!



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:03 AM, "lengli...@cox.net 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



I read a confusing story about conflicting perspectives on a deal for 
a piece of real estate.

L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It will take a little time but this is a must read for anyone 
interested in TM history.
And anyone who thinks the kinds of dishonest yahoos who do business 
this way have anything to do with enlightenment or world peace are 
full of manure.


http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2003/september/the-real-estate-guru




The Real Estate Guru 
 

NOT LONG AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS between opportunities and needed a 
place to stay for a few weeks while she hunted for more permanent 
lodging. I’ll call her Lisa.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 9:25 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Would you be willing to tell us about the particular TM scam you 
experienced?

>
Maybe he doesn't want to talk about his experience, but so far as I can 
tell, he never donated any money or time to the TMO, but apparently he 
lived at the TM commune for years. Sort of like you mooched off the MIU 
for a few years without donating any time or money or doing any 
meaningful work. Go figure.

>



*From:* salyavin808 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:35 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

How does time negate the real behavior of the TMO? I posted it as a 
piece of TM history - did the TM glow in your eyes prevent you from 
reading that?


Evidently, but some people just aren't interested in what hapened a 
decade ago when Marshy made his plea for a $billion to save the world, 
all the while sitting on mountains of real estate.


Maybe Share was never on the end of a movement scam, I was. Makes one 
very wary and very interested in whatever else they got up to.



*From:* "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:03 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

Lawson, I read a piece that was dated 2003! So I guess salyavin was 
right. It was a "brilliant find." Cuz MJ had to only dig back ONE 
decade. Rather than 2, 3 or 4!



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:03 AM, "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:



I read a confusing story about conflicting perspectives on a deal for 
a piece of real estate.

L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It will take a little time but this is a must read for anyone 
interested in TM history.
And anyone who thinks the kinds of dishonest yahoos who do business 
this way have anything to do with enlightenment or world peace are 
full of manure.


http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2003/september/the-real-estate-guru




The Real Estate Guru 
 

NOT LONG AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS between opportunities and needed a 
place to stay for a few weeks while she hunted for more permanent 
lodging. I’ll call her Lisa.


View on www.dmagazine.com 



Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and Square Roots

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

And at the time of the Great Fairfield Pundit Riot of 2014 the number 
of "yogic flyers" was 5 and a half percent of the total population of 
Fairfield, far more than the square root of one percent it takes to 
make stuff happen - I guess those particles got a little mixed up that 
day.

>
On 8/23/2014 8:52 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>
But because you didn't know what would have happened if those 5% 
weren't there you can't possibly know that there was supposed to have 
been a 7.5 earthquake that day and a mass shooter at Revelations - all 
of which didn't happen thanks to the ME. This is the problem with your 
way of looking at things MJ, you just can't know what was prevented 
because it never happened. A couple of pandits going rogue is hardly 
noteworthy in the grand scheme of things. Maybe it was a good thing in 
the end.

>
It looks like MJ is fond of using non sequiturs - an inference or 
conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence. It's 
almost impossible to prove a negative.

>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Alternative Therapy

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Bhairitu and salyavin, I just do not believe in 100 certainty on this 
planet (-:


Only an idiot would. But we can have reasonably sound knowledge with 
proper testing.


So, I tend to go by my own experience wrt medicines, herbs, etc.

Good luck.

>
On 8/23/2014 8:35 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>


He says disingenuously, snickering at Share's naive notion that 
anything other than those pills bought in a bottle at your local 
pharmacy could possibly do a lick of good.

>
He seems to be preaching to a choir, but the science writer is on 
vacation. Apparently they are both working for Big Parma. In the case of 
the vacationing science writer, he already admitted as much. I wonder 
why Salya doesn't want to talk about the science writer's Rama 
levitation claims? Where is Judy when we need her - she used to hate 
hypocrites. Go figure.

>



On Friday, August 22, 2014 2:47 PM, "Bhairitu noozguru@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



On 08/22/2014 12:12 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:



salyavin, imo the concepts thoroughly tested and safe and
objective science are additional ways in which we kid ourselves.


On Friday, August 22, 2014 1:56 PM, salyavin808
 
wrote:


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

On 08/22/2014 09:17 AM, salyavin808 wrote:


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

On 08/22/2014 12:12 AM, salyavin808 wrote:


Do yourself a favour and drop the conspiracy
theories when it comes to your health.



No, I use the information gleaned from taking
workshops in alternative medicine. I used
alternative medicine since 1972. You do know you are
arguing against people who have actually taken
courses in it? 


=

Wow, courses.



And how many courses have you taken?

=

It's not about courses it's about whether what they teach
has been thoroughly tested.


This is what I've been saying all day, there may be great
wonders still to be discovered but until it's as well
tested as possible we will not know and end up with the
sort of alternative therapies we have which largely
involve placebo's and the white coat effect for their
efficacy, such as it is.



What some folks call "Quackery" may also just be "Folk Medicine" and 
has a record of never harming anyone compared to many 
pharmaceuticals.  I always love the one ad which is one minute long 
and 15 seconds for the actual endorsement by a sports figure and then 
40 seconds of warnings and disclaimers.  Only a fool would want to 
take that shit.  And it also for an ailment that is curable by 
correcting the metabolic imbalance.


And then there is the problem of "proper doctors" misdiagnosing. It 
happens far too often.


I think Salvy's just a "science fan" and not a scientist.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

How does time negate the real behavior of the TMO? I posted it as a 
piece of TM history - did the TM glow in your eyes prevent you from 
reading that?

>
On 8/23/2014 8:35 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
>


Evidently, but some people just aren't interested in what hapened a 
decade ago when Marshy made his plea for a $billion to save the world, 
all the while sitting on mountains of real estate.


Maybe Share was never on the end of a movement scam, I was. Makes one 
very wary and very interested in whatever else they got up to.

>
Apparently you scammed the TMO out of free room and board for several 
years. Why don't you want to talk about that?

>



*From:* "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:03 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

Lawson, I read a piece that was dated 2003! So I guess salyavin was 
right. It was a "brilliant find." Cuz MJ had to only dig back ONE 
decade. Rather than 2, 3 or 4!



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:03 AM, "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:



I read a confusing story about conflicting perspectives on a deal for 
a piece of real estate.

L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It will take a little time but this is a must read for anyone 
interested in TM history.
And anyone who thinks the kinds of dishonest yahoos who do business 
this way have anything to do with enlightenment or world peace are 
full of manure.


http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2003/september/the-real-estate-guru




The Real Estate Guru 
 

NOT LONG AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS between opportunities and needed a 
place to stay for a few weeks while she hunted for more permanent 
lodging. I’ll call her Lisa.


View on www.dmagazine.com 



Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 6:03 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Lawson, I read a piece that was dated 2003! So I guess salyavin was 
right. It was a "brilliant find." Cuz MJ had to only dig back ONE 
decade. Rather than 2, 3 or 4!

>
MJ haw written an interesting informational history of the TMO for the 
TM-Free Blog maintained by John Knapp. It looks like MJ is an informant 
writing for a science writer and some lurking reporters. However, he 
seems to have left out the part about his being coerced and forced work 
in the MIU kitchen. /This is the single most important event in the 
whole history of the TMO/! So, I wonder why he left that out? He doesn't 
seem to want to talk about his cult addiction. Go figure.


"Michael H. Jackson is a former TM junkie who feels learning TM was one 
of the biggest mistakes he ever made. He lives in South Carolina running 
his own computer repair business and working part time as a freelance 
writer." - Laurie


http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2014/02/tm-marketing-timeline.html
>




On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:03 AM, "lengli...@cox.net 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



I read a confusing story about conflicting perspectives on a deal for 
a piece of real estate.

L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It will take a little time but this is a must read for anyone 
interested in TM history.
And anyone who thinks the kinds of dishonest yahoos who do business 
this way have anything to do with enlightenment or world peace are 
full of manure.


http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2003/september/the-real-estate-guru




The Real Estate Guru 
 

NOT LONG AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS between opportunities and needed a 
place to stay for a few weeks while she hunted for more permanent 
lodging. I’ll call her Lisa.


View on www.dmagazine.com 



Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] And now scrolling doesn't work in neo

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 3:11 AM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:


up until now, with the new interface, I could scroll back continuously 
and see what people said a few days or weeks ago.


Now, this doesn't work and there's no obvious way to see what the 
previous messages were.



>
What you need to do is get out of using the Yahoo! Neo. Try the free 
Google Chrome browser and the free Google Mail.  Or get the free Mozilla 
Thunderbird.


P.S. How many times do we have to go thru this? Neo is for nerds. No 
offense. Neo sucks.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 3:02 AM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:


I read a confusing story about conflicting perspectives on a deal for 
a piece of real estate.


L

>
So, it's a confusing story all about real estate. Go figure.
>



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It will take a little time but this is a must read for anyone 
interested in TM history.
And anyone who thinks the kinds of dishonest yahoos who do business 
this way have anything to do with enlightenment or world peace are 
full of manure.


http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2003/september/the-real-estate-guru




The Real Estate Guru 
 

NOT LONG AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS between opportunities and needed a 
place to stay for a few weeks while she hunted for more permanent 
lodging. I’ll call her Lisa.


View on www.dmagazine.com 



Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/23/2014 1:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
Brilliant find. What a shady bunch of devious tricksters, truly humble 
age of enlightenment on one hand and on the other

>
So long to /religious tolerance/ and /democracy/ with a higher level of 
consciousness! Next, they'll be comparing TMers to the ISIS cult or the 
Nazis. Go figure.

>



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It will take a little time but this is a must read for anyone 
interested in TM history.
And anyone who thinks the kinds of dishonest yahoos who do business 
this way have anything to do with enlightenment or world peace are 
full of manure.


http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2003/september/the-real-estate-guru




The Real Estate Guru 
 

NOT LONG AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS between opportunities and needed a 
place to stay for a few weeks while she hunted for more permanent 
lodging. I’ll call her Lisa.


View on www.dmagazine.com 



Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Significance of the American's Beheading

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Like.
>
On 8/23/2014 12:16 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


S3,

You've got a good point there.  IMO, the problem lies in the 
fundamentalist interpretation of religious belief rather than in 
assimilation to a new culture. Islam has that fundamentalist quality 
ingrained in its teachings, although there are other Muslims who have 
a more progressive interpretation of Islam.  As such, some Muslims 
have a tendency to revert back to the fundamentalist outlook whenever 
they are in a difficult situation, such as being a minority in a 
predominantly Christian culture.


This situation is happening even in the Philippines where the Muslims 
are essentially coming from the same racial background.  The Muslim 
insurgents over there have fought the government for years in southern 
Philippines for sovereignty over certain geographical areas.  This is 
due basically to a fundamentalist view that their religion is 
incompatible with a Christian culture.


Nonetheless, the answer to a peaceful society is respect and tolerance 
of other people's religion through democratic means, and the 
separation of church and state in running the government.  This idea 
is obviously coming from the American founding fathers who were 
centuries ahead in formulating an ideal government for a new society.


This new form of government was experimental back then and still is 
today.  This government is difficult to implement and maintain as one 
can see with the politics here in the US and the other countries which 
have adopted the American system of government.


But, given the diversity of cultures in the world and the ever 
increasing dependency of countries to the entire planet, 
fundamentalism is not the answer to global peace.  We can see this 
fact play out in the Middle East where even Muslims are fighting each 
other for the right to practice their own brand of Islam.


The democratic form of government is the logical answer to world 
governance.  But it's easier said than done.  For brevity, one can say 
democracy requires its people to have a higher level of consciousness 
to function properly.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The real significance is that the American journalist was beheaded by 
an "Englishman". He's probably a Londoner - so brought up and educated 
near to where I'm sitting and typing now. There are a lot of alienated 
Muslim youths over here and the Government hasn't a clue how to deal 
with them.

The day may come when US Navy Seals have to drop in to sort things . . .

[FairfieldLife] Angry

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I am ticked off that I didn't get the one from understanding the language of 
animals

Friendliness To develop friendliness 
Compassion To develop compassion 
Happiness To develop happiness 
The Strength of an Elephant To develop superhuman strength 
The Bronchial Tube To develop calmness 
The Trachea To develop control of hunger and thirst 
The Navel To develop knowledge of the body 
On Soma so that Soma Flows Everywhere To develop the flow of soma 
The Coronal Light To see sidhas 
Inner Light To develop knowledge of things hidden from view 
The Sun to develop knowledge of cosmic visions (lokas) 
The Moon To develop knowledge of arrangement of stars 
The Pole Star To develop knowledge of motion of stars 
The Three-fold Parinamas (or Changes) To develop knowledge of past and future 
The Heart To develop knowledge of the mind 
The Appearance of the Body To develop invisiibility 
Word...Object Implied...the Idea Thereof Overlapping To develop knowledge of 
language of animals and all beings 
The Conquering of the Vital Force Samana To develop effulgence 
The Distinction Between Buddhi & Purusha To develop discriminative 
enlightenment 
Purusha & Intuition To develop prescience 
PurushaDivine Hearing  To develop clairaudience 
PurushaDivine Touch To develop divine touch 
PurushaDivine Sight To develop divine sight 
PurushaDivine Taste To develop divine taste 
PurushaDivine Smell To develop divine smell 
On Relationship of Body and AkashaLightness of Cotton Fiber To develop 
levitation 
Soma, Soma, Soma To develop soma and smooth "unstressing" 
Rest in Shavasana 15 min or longer

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ann feels differently, so do I.




 From: danfriedman2002 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism
 


  
Pure Subjectivity (and not the Good Kind)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

This is not some closed up commune surrounded by barbed wire 


That's just for the pundits 




 From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description
 


  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


A visitor to Fairfield, Iowa, the nearby Maharishi Vedic City, or other
TM communities will see that, in practice, Maharishi’s teachings can,
and do, provide a totalistic, highly prescriptive, all-consuming
lifestyle for thousands of devoted followers of the Movement. 


For these
practitioners of TM, meditation, the sidhis, and the wide range of
related practices and services constitute a complete spiritual path, an
“ultimate concern,” whether you call it a religion or not. 


In its
dealings with meditators fully committed to TM, the Movement can be
highly controlling and intolerant of deviations, encouraging orthodox
thinking and enforcing orthopraxy. By most standards, TM looks and
behaves like a new religious movement, at least for its most devout
followers.

Here is what I observe from old acquaintances that I see all the time on FB 
(you can learn a lot by looking at pics, seeing what they post, what their 
interests are, what their philosophy is) and who live in FF. They are my age or 
older and have a long history with TM and some are former students of MIU. 
These are people that either never left FF for three or four decades or who 
went out in the world and moved back. My sense is that they desire community. 
They like the small town feel, the fact that you can stroll the entire downtown 
in about 20 minutes at most and that they know/recognize virtually everyone, at 
least from their familiar faces. Lots of these people enjoy the comraderie of 
their peers who have, at one time or another, been interested in spiritual 
things. Some are artists, some are business people some are simply raising or 
have raised a family. This is not some closed up commune surrounded by barbed 
wire inhabited by gun-toting crazies
 convinced the world is going to end or that they have to divorce themselves 
from the rest of humanity. Many of those living in FF are mature, grown up 
people in their 50's and 60's who have pretty much seen all the paroxysms the 
Movement has gone through over the years and has taken what is useful and has 
moved on from the rest. Granted, I am speaking not from having been there 
recently but by my interactions with at least 5-6 people online who are there 
as well as having attended a huge MIU reunion of the class of 1979-1980 in 
Santa Barbara about 5 years ago (160-200 people were there for 2-3 days of 
eating, drinking and reminiscing). Most of those attending were people 
currently living in California and many were involved in some aspect of the 
movie industry (aren't they all) but many were still meditating and thought 
fondly of their time at MIU. These were not devout followers of some pseudo 
religion just as most of the old friends living in FF that
 I have recently interacted with are not fanatical. They're just doing what 
they want to do in a place where old friends have ended up due to all the 
reasons I stated above. I think it would be a really worthwhile expedition for 
you to go back to FF for a week on a fact-finding tour. Hang out, go to events, 
see if you can get on campus. Do whatever you can to get a real feel for the 
joint. It could be a hoot. I'd love to hear your stories. In fact, I should go 
back sometime too, but not in the dead of winter. I had enough of those when I 
lived there.

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It is pretty good - although unless I missed it the writer left out the 
allegations that Marshy loved to dip the proverbial wick.




 From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism
 


  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


http://www.has.vcu.edu/wrs/profiles/TranscendentalMeditation.htm
  
             
World Religions & Spirituality | Transcendental Meditati...
TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION TIMELINE 1918 (?)  
Founder Mahesh Prasad Varma (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) was b...  
View on www.has.vcu.edu Preview by Yahoo  
  


This is an excellent synopsis and fills in some missing pieces for me 
chronologically and otherwise. I'll take a better look at it later but skimming 
through it appears very clear and objective as far as explanations and history 
of the Movement. Good find.


 From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism



 
Michael, who were you quoting when you wrote: evidence of this
millennial age of peace, prosperity, and happiness has proven difficult
to document.


On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:44 AM, "Share Long sharelong60@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



 
Michael, you say that better times are difficult to document? Maybe this will 
help:
5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History

  
             
5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human
History
Here are five simple, powerful reasons why you should believe the world has 
never been better -- and is getting better still.  
View on thinkprogress.org Preview by Yahoo  
  
 


On Saturday, August 23, 2014
9:32 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:



 
This claim that the group practice of the TM sidhis can produce a new
age is an example of what scholars call “progressive millennialism,” the
belief that the world can gradually be brought to a state of
perfection. 


However, Maharishi’s teachings are never so easy to
categorize; he has also periodically issued emergency calls for sidhi
practitioners to gather by the thousands for World Peace Assemblies in
order to prevent the outbreak of wars and other imminent calamities. 


Scholars call this form of radical preventive action “avertive
millennialism.” 


Devoted practitioners of TM believe that several
catastrophes have been prevented by group meditation assemblies over the
last four decades. Although Maharishi (1976) repeatedly declared that
the “Age of Enlightenment” has already dawned, evidence of this
millennial age of peace, prosperity, and happiness has proven difficult
to document.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and Square Roots

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

SC is too - one destroyed Charleston way back long time ago

1886 Charleston earthquake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  
             
1886 Charleston earthquake - Wikipedia, the free encyclo...
The Charleston Earthquake of 1886 was a powerful intraplate earthquake that hit 
Charleston, South Carolina, and the East Coast of the US. After the 1811 and 
1812 ea...  
View on en.wikipedia.org Preview by Yahoo  
  



 From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and 
Square Roots
 


  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


i am going to assume you are being facetious - surely you as pragmatic as you 
are cannot be stupid enough to say "Awww! we don't know how bad it might-a been 
if them pundits waddnt doin' them yagyers and that TMSP!" 


A 7.5 quake!?! You are not that stupid.


Yes MJ, it was a joke, even though we are well aware that Iowa is the epicenter 
of quake activity. LOL.



 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and 
Square Roots



 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


And at the time of the Great Fairfield Pundit Riot of 2014 the number of "yogic 
flyers" was 5 and a half percent of the total population of Fairfield, far more 
than the square root of one percent it takes to make stuff happen - I guess 
those particles got a little mixed up that day.


But because you didn't know what would have happened if those 5% weren't there 
you can't possibly know that there was supposed to have been a 7.5 earthquake 
that day and a
mass shooter at Revelations - all of which didn't happen thanks to the ME. This 
is the problem with your way of looking at things MJ, you just can't know what 
was prevented because it never happened. A couple of pandits going rogue is 
hardly noteworthy in the grand scheme of things. Maybe it was a good thing in 
the end.

[FairfieldLife] Juggling made easy

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Something sublimely beautiful about this . . .
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmdrrAriGI 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmdrrAriGI

[FairfieldLife] Ayurveda in the news

[srijau]

http://www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/the-ancient-healing-system-that-can-relieve-modern-ills-30460101.html
 
http://www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/the-ancient-healing-system-that-can-relieve-modern-ills-30460101.html
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[danfriedman2002]

Pure Subjectivity (and not the Good Kind)

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 http://www.has.vcu.edu/wrs/profiles/TranscendentalMeditation.htm 
http://www.has.vcu.edu/wrs/profiles/TranscendentalMeditation.htm
  
  
 http://www.has.vcu.edu/wrs/profiles/TranscendentalMeditation.htm
  
  
  
  
  
 World Religions & Spirituality | Transcendental Meditati... 
http://www.has.vcu.edu/wrs/profiles/TranscendentalMeditation.htm"; 
class="ygrps-yiv-1651645463link-enhancr-card-urlWrapper 
ygrps-yiv-1651645463link-enhancr-element TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) 
TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION TIMELINE 1918 (?)  Founder Mahesh Prasad Varma 
(Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) was b...


 
 View on www.has.vcu.edu 
http://www.has.vcu.edu/wrs/profiles/TranscendentalMeditation.htm
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 

 

 This is an excellent synopsis and fills in some missing pieces for me 
chronologically and otherwise. I'll take a better look at it later but skimming 
through it appears very clear and objective as far as explanations and history 
of the Movement. Good find.
 From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism
 
 
   Michael, who were you quoting when you wrote: evidence of this millennial 
age of peace, prosperity, and happiness has proven difficult to document.
 


 On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:44 AM, "Share Long sharelong60@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 
 

   Michael, you say that better times are difficult to document? Maybe this 
will help:
 5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History 
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/12/11/3036671/2013-certainly-year-human-history/

  
  
 
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/12/11/3036671/2013-certainly-year-human-history/
  
  
  
  
  
 5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History Here are five simple, 
powerful reasons why you should believe the world has never been better -- and 
is getting better still.


 
 View on thinkprogress.org 
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/12/11/3036671/2013-certainly-year-human-history/
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  
 


 On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:32 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 
 

   This claim that the group practice of the TM sidhis can produce a new age is 
an example of what scholars call “progressive millennialism,” the belief that 
the world can gradually be brought to a state of perfection. 

 

 However, Maharishi’s teachings are never so easy to categorize; he has also 
periodically issued emergency calls for sidhi practitioners to gather by the 
thousands for World Peace Assemblies in order to prevent the outbreak of wars 
and other imminent calamities. 

 

 Scholars call this form of radical preventive action “avertive millennialism.” 

 

 Devoted practitioners of TM believe that several catastrophes have been 
prevented by group meditation assemblies over the last four decades. Although 
Maharishi (1976) repeatedly declared that the “Age of Enlightenment” has 
already dawned, evidence of this millennial age of peace, prosperity, and 
happiness has proven difficult to document.
 



 












 













 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and Square Roots

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ann, a few years ago there was an earthquake in our region. About 4 am I woke 
up thinking: the bed just dropped beneath me! Later that day I found out that 
there had been a small earthquake just over the Mississippi in Illinois. Turns 
out there's a fault line running down the Mighty Mississip!

 

 Interesting, here is something I found.
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366603/Earthquake-map-America-make-think-again.html
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366603/Earthquake-map-America-make-think-again.html

 


 On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:25 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 
 

   i am going to assume you are being facetious - surely you as pragmatic as 
you are cannot be stupid enough to say "Awww! we don't know how bad it might-a 
been if them pundits waddnt doin' them yagyers and that TMSP!" 

 

 A 7.5 quake!?! You are not that stupid. 

 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and 
Square Roots
 
 
   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And at the time of the Great Fairfield Pundit Riot of 2014 the number of 
"yogic flyers" was 5 and a half percent of the total population of Fairfield, 
far more than the square root of one percent it takes to make stuff happen - I 
guess those particles got a little mixed up that day.

 

 But because you didn't know what would have happened if those 5% weren't there 
you can't possibly know that there was supposed to have been a 7.5 earthquake 
that day and a mass shooter at Revelations - all of which didn't happen thanks 
to the ME. This is the problem with your way of looking at things MJ, you just 
can't know what was prevented because it never happened. A couple of pandits 
going rogue is hardly noteworthy in the grand scheme of things. Maybe it was a 
good thing in the end.
 

 
 










 






















 













 












 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good Description

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A visitor to Fairfield, Iowa, the nearby Maharishi Vedic City, or other TM 
communities will see that, in practice, Maharishi’s teachings can, and do, 
provide a totalistic, highly prescriptive, all-consuming lifestyle for 
thousands of devoted followers of the Movement. 

 

 For these practitioners of TM, meditation, the sidhis, and the wide range of 
related practices and services constitute a complete spiritual path, an 
“ultimate concern,” whether you call it a religion or not. 

 

 In its dealings with meditators fully committed to TM, the Movement can be 
highly controlling and intolerant of deviations, encouraging orthodox thinking 
and enforcing orthopraxy. By most standards, TM looks and behaves like a new 
religious movement, at least for its most devout followers.
 

 Here is what I observe from old acquaintances that I see all the time on FB 
(you can learn a lot by looking at pics, seeing what they post, what their 
interests are, what their philosophy is) and who live in FF. They are my age or 
older and have a long history with TM and some are former students of MIU. 
These are people that either never left FF for three or four decades or who 
went out in the world and moved back. My sense is that they desire community. 
They like the small town feel, the fact that you can stroll the entire downtown 
in about 20 minutes at most and that they know/recognize virtually everyone, at 
least from their familiar faces. Lots of these people enjoy the comraderie of 
their peers who have, at one time or another, been interested in spiritual 
things. Some are artists, some are business people some are simply raising or 
have raised a family. This is not some closed up commune surrounded by barbed 
wire inhabited by gun-toting crazies convinced the world is going to end or 
that they have to divorce themselves from the rest of humanity. Many of those 
living in FF are mature, grown up people in their 50's and 60's who have pretty 
much seen all the paroxysms the Movement has gone through over the years and 
has taken what is useful and has moved on from the rest. Granted, I am speaking 
not from having been there recently but by my interactions with at least 5-6 
people online who are there as well as having attended a huge MIU reunion of 
the class of 1979-1980 in Santa Barbara about 5 years ago (160-200 people were 
there for 2-3 days of eating, drinking and reminiscing). Most of those 
attending were people currently living in California and many were involved in 
some aspect of the movie industry (aren't they all) but many were still 
meditating and thought fondly of their time at MIU. These were not devout 
followers of some pseudo religion just as most of the old friends living in FF 
that I have recently interacted with are not fanatical. They're just doing what 
they want to do in a place where old friends have ended up due to all the 
reasons I stated above. I think it would be a really worthwhile expedition for 
you to go back to FF for a week on a fact-finding tour. Hang out, go to events, 
see if you can get on campus. Do whatever you can to get a real feel for the 
joint. It could be a hoot. I'd love to hear your stories. In fact, I should go 
back sometime too, but not in the dead of winter. I had enough of those when I 
lived there.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Tm History

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/22/2014 9:42 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
It will take a little time but this is a must read for anyone 
interested in TM history.

>
You forgot to tell us about how you were /coerced/ into joining a cult 
and who exactly /forced/ you to work in the kitchen.


We already know that you are highly prone to suggestion and easily 
deceived, since you lived in a pod for two years. Apparently you thought 
you were be going to be given a free trailer house to live in. The 
question is, if you were under /mind-control/ back then, who is to say 
you are not still under their control now and just posting false-flag 
messages for a science writer?


Is there anything you can say now about the /human levitation/ or the 
/yogic flying/, that would prove that you're not still in a 
trance-induction state? You seem to be still dabbling in cult activities 
such as the /Chi Gong//Life Force/ and the /anti-science-GMO/ and the 
/anti-vaccine/ cult. Go figure.


/"A groups is a destructive cult if outsiders are: (1) drawn in my 
deception, and (2) kept in by mind control." /


http://tmfree.blogspot.com/
>
And anyone who thinks the kinds of dishonest yahoos who do business 
this way have anything to do with enlightenment or world peace are 
full of manure.


http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2003/september/the-real-estate-guru




The Real Estate Guru 
 

NOT LONG AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS between opportunities and needed a 
place to stay for a few weeks while she hunted for more permanent 
lodging. I’ll call her Lisa.


View on www.dmagazine.com 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS in Bible??

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

We are certainly living in interesting times! People criticize Biblical 
prophecy by saying "every generation thinks they are in the *end times*." The 
problem is, in those previous generations, there was no Israel and that is key 
to the fulfillment of these prophecies. When Christ was asked "when will all 
these things come to pass(regarding the end time prophesies of Daniel)" He 
answered "know the parable of the fig tree". The fig tree represents Israel and 
when it starts to bloom again " that the generation that witnesses that, shall 
not pass before all these things are fulfilled. Some argue that the beginning 
was 1948 and the founding of the new Israel, others say no it's the uniting of 
Jerusalem with Israel in 1967, the end of the gentile control of Jerusalem and 
still others think it refers to the Abomination of Desolation that think that 
is the generation.  


On Saturday, August 23, 2014 5:24 AM, "cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
  


  
ISIS Militants in Iraq in Bible Prophecy
  
  ISIS Militants in Iraq in Bible Prophecy  
Is the crisis in Iraq and the Isis militants prophesied in the Bible? What 
about the war on terror? Was the gulf war of 1990-91 prophesied in the Bible? 
Webs...  
View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo   
 
  
 

   
Christ said no man knows the day or hour but he does expect us to know the 
*season*.

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

http://www.has.vcu.edu/wrs/profiles/TranscendentalMeditation.htm
  
             
World Religions & Spirituality | Transcendental Meditati...
TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION TIMELINE 1918 (?)  
Founder Mahesh Prasad Varma (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) was b...  
View on www.has.vcu.edu Preview by Yahoo  
  



 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism
 


  
Michael, who were you quoting when you wrote: evidence of this 
millennial age of peace, prosperity, and happiness has proven difficult 
to document.


On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:44 AM, "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
Michael, you say that better times are difficult to document? Maybe this will 
help:
5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History

  
             
5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History
Here are five simple, powerful reasons why you should believe the world has 
never been better -- and is getting better still.  
View on thinkprogress.org Preview by Yahoo  
  
 


On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:32 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
This claim that the group practice of the TM sidhis can produce a new 
age is an example of what scholars call “progressive millennialism,” the belief 
that the world can gradually be brought to a state of 
perfection. 


However, Maharishi’s teachings are never so easy to 
categorize; he has also periodically issued emergency calls for sidhi 
practitioners to gather by the thousands for World Peace Assemblies in 
order to prevent the outbreak of wars and other imminent calamities. 


Scholars call this form of radical preventive action “avertive 
millennialism.” 


Devoted practitioners of TM believe that several 
catastrophes have been prevented by group meditation assemblies over the last 
four decades. Although Maharishi (1976) repeatedly declared that 
the “Age of Enlightenment” has already dawned, evidence of this 
millennial age of peace, prosperity, and happiness has proven difficult 
to document.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and Square Roots

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 i am going to assume you are being facetious - surely you as pragmatic as you 
are cannot be stupid enough to say "Awww! we don't know how bad it might-a been 
if them pundits waddnt doin' them yagyers and that TMSP!" 

 

 A 7.5 quake!?! You are not that stupid.

 

 Yes MJ, it was a joke, even though we are well aware that Iowa is the 
epicenter of quake activity. LOL.
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and 
Square Roots
 
 
   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And at the time of the Great Fairfield Pundit Riot of 2014 the number of 
"yogic flyers" was 5 and a half percent of the total population of Fairfield, 
far more than the square root of one percent it takes to make stuff happen - I 
guess those particles got a little mixed up that day.

 

 But because you didn't know what would have happened if those 5% weren't there 
you can't possibly know that there was supposed to have been a 7.5 earthquake 
that day and a mass shooter at Revelations - all of which didn't happen thanks 
to the ME. This is the problem with your way of looking at things MJ, you just 
can't know what was prevented because it never happened. A couple of pandits 
going rogue is hardly noteworthy in the grand scheme of things. Maybe it was a 
good thing in the end.
 

 
 










 






















 













 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Michael, that must be very time consuming since there are several leaders! And 
are you still living in SC? Or should we assume you use remote viewing? Spy 
drones? Goggle maps? Satellites?



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:46 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
All of them, but I have to hold my nose when I do it.




 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History
 


  
Michael, which present day TMO leaders are you currently observing?



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:27 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
Judging by the behavior of the TMO leaders, TM practice increases stress or at 
least unethical behavior. 




 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History
 


  
Michael, the alleged "TM glow" in my eyes also did not prevent me from reading 
your entire accompanying comment! Which imo insinuated something about the 
present state of the TMO.

As for time and past events, my understanding is that traumas and traumatic 
beliefs from past events can be stored in the nervous system. TM is a good way 
to release those.



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 6:51 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
How does time negate the real behavior of the TMO? I posted it as a piece of TM 
history - did the TM glow in your eyes prevent you from reading that?




 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History
 


  
Lawson, I read a piece that was dated 2003! So I guess salyavin was right. It 
was a "brilliant find." Cuz MJ had to only dig back ONE decade. Rather than 2, 
3 or 4!



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:03 AM, "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 


  
I read a confusing story about conflicting perspectives on a deal for a piece 
of real estate.
L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It will take a little time but this is a must read for anyone interested in TM 
history. 

And anyone who thinks the kinds of dishonest yahoos who do business this way 
have anything to do with enlightenment or world peace are full of manure.

http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2003/september/the-real-estate-guru
  
          
The Real Estate Guru
NOT LONG AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS between opportunities and needed a place to 
stay for a few weeks while she hunted for more permanent lodging. I’ll call her 
Lisa.  
View on www.dmagazine.com Preview by Yahoo  
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Michael, who were you quoting when you wrote: evidence of this 
millennial age of peace, prosperity, and happiness has proven difficult 
to document.


On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:44 AM, "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
Michael, you say that better times are difficult to document? Maybe this will 
help:
5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History

  
             
5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History
Here are five simple, powerful reasons why you should believe the world has 
never been better -- and is getting better still.  
View on thinkprogress.org Preview by Yahoo  
  
 


On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:32 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
This claim that the group practice of the TM sidhis can produce a new 
age is an example of what scholars call “progressive millennialism,” the belief 
that the world can gradually be brought to a state of 
perfection. 


However, Maharishi’s teachings are never so easy to 
categorize; he has also periodically issued emergency calls for sidhi 
practitioners to gather by the thousands for World Peace Assemblies in 
order to prevent the outbreak of wars and other imminent calamities. 


Scholars call this form of radical preventive action “avertive 
millennialism.” 


Devoted practitioners of TM believe that several 
catastrophes have been prevented by group meditation assemblies over the last 
four decades. Although Maharishi (1976) repeatedly declared that 
the “Age of Enlightenment” has already dawned, evidence of this 
millennial age of peace, prosperity, and happiness has proven difficult 
to document.

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I didn't say it - I posted a quote.




 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism
 


  
Michael, you say that better times are difficult to document? Maybe this will 
help:
5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History

  
             
5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History
Here are five simple, powerful reasons why you should believe the world has 
never been better -- and is getting better still.  
View on thinkprogress.org Preview by Yahoo  
  
 


On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:32 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
This claim that the group practice of the TM sidhis can produce a new 
age is an example of what scholars call “progressive millennialism,” the belief 
that the world can gradually be brought to a state of 
perfection. 


However, Maharishi’s teachings are never so easy to 
categorize; he has also periodically issued emergency calls for sidhi 
practitioners to gather by the thousands for World Peace Assemblies in 
order to prevent the outbreak of wars and other imminent calamities. 


Scholars call this form of radical preventive action “avertive 
millennialism.” 


Devoted practitioners of TM believe that several 
catastrophes have been prevented by group meditation assemblies over the last 
four decades. Although Maharishi (1976) repeatedly declared that 
the “Age of Enlightenment” has already dawned, evidence of this 
millennial age of peace, prosperity, and happiness has proven difficult 
to document.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ere you a-feard that ahm gone judge somebuddy for summin they done decades ago?




 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History
 


  
Michael, which present day TMO leaders are you currently observing?



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:27 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
Judging by the behavior of the TMO leaders, TM practice increases stress or at 
least unethical behavior. 




 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History
 


  
Michael, the alleged "TM glow" in my eyes also did not prevent me from reading 
your entire accompanying comment! Which imo insinuated something about the 
present state of the TMO.

As for time and past events, my understanding is that traumas and traumatic 
beliefs from past events can be stored in the nervous system. TM is a good way 
to release those.



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 6:51 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
How does time negate the real behavior of the TMO? I posted it as a piece of TM 
history - did the TM glow in your eyes prevent you from reading that?




 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History
 


  
Lawson, I read a piece that was dated 2003! So I guess salyavin was right. It 
was a "brilliant find." Cuz MJ had to only dig back ONE decade. Rather than 2, 
3 or 4!



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:03 AM, "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 


  
I read a confusing story about conflicting perspectives on a deal for a piece 
of real estate.
L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It will take a little time but this is a must read for anyone interested in TM 
history. 

And anyone who thinks the kinds of dishonest yahoos who do business this way 
have anything to do with enlightenment or world peace are full of manure.

http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2003/september/the-real-estate-guru
  
          
The Real Estate Guru
NOT LONG AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS between opportunities and needed a place to 
stay for a few weeks while she hunted for more permanent lodging. I’ll call her 
Lisa.  
View on www.dmagazine.com Preview by Yahoo  
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

All of them, but I have to hold my nose when I do it.




 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History
 


  
Michael, which present day TMO leaders are you currently observing?



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:27 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
Judging by the behavior of the TMO leaders, TM practice increases stress or at 
least unethical behavior. 




 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History
 


  
Michael, the alleged "TM glow" in my eyes also did not prevent me from reading 
your entire accompanying comment! Which imo insinuated something about the 
present state of the TMO.

As for time and past events, my understanding is that traumas and traumatic 
beliefs from past events can be stored in the nervous system. TM is a good way 
to release those.



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 6:51 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
How does time negate the real behavior of the TMO? I posted it as a piece of TM 
history - did the TM glow in your eyes prevent you from reading that?




 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History
 


  
Lawson, I read a piece that was dated 2003! So I guess salyavin was right. It 
was a "brilliant find." Cuz MJ had to only dig back ONE decade. Rather than 2, 
3 or 4!



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:03 AM, "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 


  
I read a confusing story about conflicting perspectives on a deal for a piece 
of real estate.
L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It will take a little time but this is a must read for anyone interested in TM 
history. 

And anyone who thinks the kinds of dishonest yahoos who do business this way 
have anything to do with enlightenment or world peace are full of manure.

http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2003/september/the-real-estate-guru
  
          
The Real Estate Guru
NOT LONG AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS between opportunities and needed a place to 
stay for a few weeks while she hunted for more permanent lodging. I’ll call her 
Lisa.  
View on www.dmagazine.com Preview by Yahoo  
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Michael, you say that better times are difficult to document? Maybe this will 
help:
5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History

  
             
5 Reasons Why 2013 Was The Best Year In Human History
Here are five simple, powerful reasons why you should believe the world has 
never been better -- and is getting better still.  
View on thinkprogress.org Preview by Yahoo  
  
 


On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:32 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
This claim that the group practice of the TM sidhis can produce a new 
age is an example of what scholars call “progressive millennialism,” the belief 
that the world can gradually be brought to a state of 
perfection. 


However, Maharishi’s teachings are never so easy to 
categorize; he has also periodically issued emergency calls for sidhi 
practitioners to gather by the thousands for World Peace Assemblies in 
order to prevent the outbreak of wars and other imminent calamities. 


Scholars call this form of radical preventive action “avertive 
millennialism.” 


Devoted practitioners of TM believe that several 
catastrophes have been prevented by group meditation assemblies over the last 
four decades. Although Maharishi (1976) repeatedly declared that 
the “Age of Enlightenment” has already dawned, evidence of this 
millennial age of peace, prosperity, and happiness has proven difficult 
to document.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and Square Roots

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ann, a few years ago there was an earthquake in our region. About 4 am I woke 
up thinking: the bed just dropped beneath me! Later that day I found out that 
there had been a small earthquake just over the Mississippi in Illinois. Turns 
out there's a fault line running down the Mighty Mississip!



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:25 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
i am going to assume you are being facetious - surely you as pragmatic as you 
are cannot be stupid enough to say "Awww! we don't know how bad it might-a been 
if them pundits waddnt doin' them yagyers and that TMSP!" 


A 7.5 quake!?! You are not that stupid. 




 From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and 
Square Roots
 


  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


And at the time of the Great Fairfield Pundit Riot of 2014 the number of "yogic 
flyers" was 5 and a half percent of the total population of Fairfield, far more 
than the square root of one percent it takes to make stuff happen - I guess 
those particles got a little mixed up that day.


But because you didn't know what would have happened if those 5% weren't there 
you can't possibly know that there was supposed to have been a 7.5 earthquake 
that day and a mass shooter at Revelations - all of which didn't happen thanks 
to the ME. This is the problem with your way of looking at things MJ, you just 
can't know what was prevented because it never happened. A couple of pandits 
going rogue is hardly noteworthy in the grand scheme of things. Maybe it was a 
good thing in the end.

[FairfieldLife] Good Description

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

A visitor to Fairfield, Iowa, the nearby Maharishi Vedic City, or other 
TM communities will see that, in practice, Maharishi’s teachings can, 
and do, provide a totalistic, highly prescriptive, all-consuming 
lifestyle for thousands of devoted followers of the Movement. 


For these 
practitioners of TM, meditation, the sidhis, and the wide range of 
related practices and services constitute a complete spiritual path, an 
“ultimate concern,” whether you call it a religion or not. 


In its 
dealings with meditators fully committed to TM, the Movement can be 
highly controlling and intolerant of deviations, encouraging orthodox 
thinking and enforcing orthopraxy. By most standards, TM looks and 
behaves like a new religious movement, at least for its most devout 
followers. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Michael, which present day TMO leaders are you currently observing?



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:27 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
Judging by the behavior of the TMO leaders, TM practice increases stress or at 
least unethical behavior. 




 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History
 


  
Michael, the alleged "TM glow" in my eyes also did not prevent me from reading 
your entire accompanying comment! Which imo insinuated something about the 
present state of the TMO.

As for time and past events, my understanding is that traumas and traumatic 
beliefs from past events can be stored in the nervous system. TM is a good way 
to release those.



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 6:51 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
How does time negate the real behavior of the TMO? I posted it as a piece of TM 
history - did the TM glow in your eyes prevent you from reading that?




 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History
 


  
Lawson, I read a piece that was dated 2003! So I guess salyavin was right. It 
was a "brilliant find." Cuz MJ had to only dig back ONE decade. Rather than 2, 
3 or 4!



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:03 AM, "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 


  
I read a confusing story about conflicting perspectives on a deal for a piece 
of real estate.
L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It will take a little time but this is a must read for anyone interested in TM 
history. 

And anyone who thinks the kinds of dishonest yahoos who do business this way 
have anything to do with enlightenment or world peace are full of manure.

http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2003/september/the-real-estate-guru
  
          
The Real Estate Guru
NOT LONG AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS between opportunities and needed a place to 
stay for a few weeks while she hunted for more permanent lodging. I’ll call her 
Lisa.  
View on www.dmagazine.com Preview by Yahoo  
  
 

[FairfieldLife] avertive millennialism

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

This claim that the group practice of the TM sidhis can produce a new 
age is an example of what scholars call “progressive millennialism,” the belief 
that the world can gradually be brought to a state of 
perfection. 


However, Maharishi’s teachings are never so easy to 
categorize; he has also periodically issued emergency calls for sidhi 
practitioners to gather by the thousands for World Peace Assemblies in 
order to prevent the outbreak of wars and other imminent calamities. 


Scholars call this form of radical preventive action “avertive 
millennialism.” 


Devoted practitioners of TM believe that several 
catastrophes have been prevented by group meditation assemblies over the last 
four decades. Although Maharishi (1976) repeatedly declared that 
the “Age of Enlightenment” has already dawned, evidence of this 
millennial age of peace, prosperity, and happiness has proven difficult 
to document.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

salyavin, I take a common sense approach to these matters. For example, 
choosing Chinese herbs because they worked for me. 



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:36 AM, salyavin808  
wrote:
 


  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


How does time negate the real behavior of the TMO? I posted it as a piece of TM 
history - did the TM glow in your eyes prevent you from reading that?


Evidently, but some people just aren't interested in what hapened a decade ago 
when Marshy made his plea for a $billion to save the world, all the while 
sitting on mountains of real estate.

Maybe Share was never on the end of a movement scam, I was. Makes one very wary 
and very interested in whatever else they got up to.



 From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History



 
Lawson, I read a piece that was dated 2003! So I guess salyavin was right. It 
was a "brilliant find." Cuz MJ had to only dig back ONE decade. Rather than 2, 
3 or 4!



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:03 AM, "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:



 
I read a confusing story about conflicting perspectives on a deal for a piece 
of real estate.
L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It will take a little time but this is a must read for anyone interested in TM 
history. 

And anyone who thinks the kinds of dishonest yahoos who do business this way 
have anything to do with enlightenment or world peace are full of manure.

http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2003/september/the-real-estate-guru
  
          
The Real Estate Guru
NOT LONG AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS between opportunities and needed a place to 
stay for a few weeks while she hunted for more permanent lodging. I’ll call her 
Lisa.  
View on www.dmagazine.com Preview by Yahoo  
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Would you be willing to tell us about the particular TM scam you experienced?




 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History
 


  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


How does time negate the real behavior of the TMO? I posted it as a piece of TM 
history - did the TM glow in your eyes prevent you from reading that?


Evidently, but some people just aren't interested in what hapened a decade ago 
when Marshy made his plea for a $billion to save the world, all the while 
sitting on mountains of real estate.

Maybe Share was never on the end of a movement scam, I was. Makes one very wary 
and very interested in whatever else they got up to.



 From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tm History



 
Lawson, I read a piece that was dated 2003! So I guess salyavin was right. It 
was a "brilliant find." Cuz MJ had to only dig back ONE decade. Rather than 2, 
3 or 4!



On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:03 AM, "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:



 
I read a confusing story about conflicting perspectives on a deal for a piece 
of real estate.
L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It will take a little time but this is a must read for anyone interested in TM 
history. 

And anyone who thinks the kinds of dishonest yahoos who do business this way 
have anything to do with enlightenment or world peace are full of manure.

http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2003/september/the-real-estate-guru
  
          
The Real Estate Guru
NOT LONG AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS between opportunities and needed a place to 
stay for a few weeks while she hunted for more permanent lodging. I’ll call her 
Lisa.  
View on www.dmagazine.com Preview by Yahoo  
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and Square Roots

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

i am going to assume you are being facetious - surely you as pragmatic as you 
are cannot be stupid enough to say "Awww! we don't know how bad it might-a been 
if them pundits waddnt doin' them yagyers and that TMSP!" 


A 7.5 quake!?! You are not that stupid. 




 From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and 
Square Roots
 


  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


And at the time of the Great Fairfield Pundit Riot of 2014 the number of "yogic 
flyers" was 5 and a half percent of the total population of Fairfield, far more 
than the square root of one percent it takes to make stuff happen - I guess 
those particles got a little mixed up that day.


But because you didn't know what would have happened if those 5% weren't there 
you can't possibly know that there was supposed to have been a 7.5 earthquake 
that day and a mass shooter at Revelations - all of which didn't happen thanks 
to the ME. This is the problem with your way of looking at things MJ, you just 
can't know what was prevented because it never happened. A couple of pandits 
going rogue is hardly noteworthy in the grand scheme of things. Maybe it was a 
good thing in the end.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and Square Roots

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And at the time of the Great Fairfield Pundit Riot of 2014 the number of 
"yogic flyers" was 5 and a half percent of the total population of Fairfield, 
far more than the square root of one percent it takes to make stuff happen - I 
guess those particles got a little mixed up that day.

 

 But because you didn't know what would have happened if those 5% weren't there 
you can't possibly know that there was supposed to have been a 7.5 earthquake 
that day and a mass shooter at Revelations - all of which didn't happen thanks 
to the ME. This is the problem with your way of looking at things MJ, you just 
can't know what was prevented because it never happened. A couple of pandits 
going rogue is hardly noteworthy in the grand scheme of things. Maybe it was a 
good thing in the end.
 

 
 










 






















 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Alternative Therapy

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Proper testing, my donkey.  Talk about "cultivate an ant-science stance,"  
What sophistry. And as if people's experience is not knowledge? Like experience 
with darshan, for instance? People quite evidently get psycho-physiologic 
relief in well-being that is also physical, spiritually.  Well-being.  Is this 
not one person's science when it happens? Proper testing? You seem generally 
allergic, too stuck up in the head, to things spiritual now to appreciate them. 
  -Buck  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is the height of TM blasphemy! How many times has L English reminded us 
of the many scientific validations of TM?!?!?!?!?

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 3:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Alternative Therapy
 
 
   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Salyavin, speaking only for myself, one reason I go for alternative therapies 
is to avoid the horrible side effects of allopathic medicines.

 

 Just make sure that if something serious takes hold you get yourself down to 
the local hospital, I've seen the results of not doing that too many times
 

 but only since I've been involved with the TMO. Funny that, but then they 
do cultivate an ant-science stance, they have to really, it's either that or 
explain why ayurveda never onto the BMA list of approve treatments. If western 
medicine is fundamentally bad we don't have to compete.
 

 The problem with Western medicine is that it is never about prevention but all 
about the cure which is fine as far as it goes. It is also handy for patching 
you up when you are badly injured. As a holistic approach to the ongoing health 
and well-being of the mind and body, though, Western medicine is not great. But 
boy, do those drugs have some kick and power and they do work in a lot of 
cases. Unfortunately, while often working well on one thing they can have a 
tendency to really screw up other things in the body. There are no free lunches 
when it comes to pharmaceuticals - there are always side effects to the "cure" 
whether it is a vaginal yeast infection from taking antibiotics or an ulcer 
from taking anti-inflammatories if you aren't careful. And don't forget about 
the anal bleeding.


 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meissner Effect of Consciousness and Square Roots

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You cynics, skeptics, defamers and general TM and Maharishi haters may try to 
cut it all off at the knees by asserting the research was all bad but actually 
the Meissner Effect of Consciousness research was quite good enough to get 
published in respected places. What remains is replication.  Of course.  In 
Science Process and Method I Trust. But in considering you all as the source of 
character under this science defamation you all wage then you haters as being 
any degree of credible critics are quite evidently untrustworthy. You people 
obviously are just grinding old axes, -Buck
 

 You missed a chance there Buck, a chance to explain how the Marshy Effect is 
like the Meissner effect, that's all it would take but no, you have to get all 
hysterical and call it "science defamation" for me to point out that the two 
things are rather dissimilar.
 

 The thing about the Meissner Effect is that it occurs on the electromagnetic 
spectrum and is therefore measurable as a field. The Marshy Effect is 
apparently only measurable by its effects and not via it's field and associated 
particles. This is odd because the claim is that people need to be together for 
it to be stronger so the waves of coherence can radiate outwards more. But if 
it isn't measurable in the EM spectrum then where is it?
 

 Good question. Not everything is measurable - yet - by us humanoids. Perhaps 
the type of energy created by consciousness needs a different machine, a 
different kind of tool than is yet in existence. You are a literal guy who 
evidently doesn't believe in anything you can't use some scientific machine to 
measure and consequently see with your own two eyes. There are lots out there 
like you so you are in good company. The rest seem to be happy to live with 
faith, hope and optimism.

I only want an explanation. If you do trust in the science method you'll know 
that an explanation is a perfectly reasonable expectation of an idea.
 

 
 


 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Alternative Therapy

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bhairitu and salyavin, I just do not believe in 100 certainty on this planet 
(-:
 

 Only an idiot would. But we can have reasonably sound knowledge with proper 
testing.
 

 So, I tend to go by my own experience wrt medicines, herbs, etc.
 

 Good luck.
 

 He says disingenuously, snickering at Share's naive notion that anything other 
than those pills bought in a bottle at your local pharmacy could possibly do a 
lick of good.
 


 On Friday, August 22, 2014 2:47 PM, "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   
 On 08/22/2014 12:12 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   salyavin, imo the concepts thoroughly tested and safe and objective science 
are additional ways in which we kid ourselves.
 
 
 

 On Friday, August 22, 2014 1:56 PM, salyavin808  
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 
 
   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 On 08/22/2014 09:17 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 On 08/22/2014 12:12 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
 Do yourself a favour and drop the conspiracy theories when it comes to your 
health.



 
 No, I use the information gleaned from taking workshops in alternative 
medicine.  I used alternative medicine since 1972.  You do know you are arguing 
against people who have actually taken courses in it?  = Wow, courses.


 
 And how many courses have you taken? = It's not about courses it's about 
whether what they teach has been thoroughly tested. 
 This is what I've been saying all day, there may be great wonders still to be 
discovered but until it's as well tested as possible we will not know and end 
up with the sort of alternative therapies we have which largely involve 
placebo's and the white coat effect for their efficacy, such as it is.
 













 
 What some folks call "Quackery" may also just be "Folk Medicine" and has a 
record of never harming anyone compared to many pharmaceuticals.  I always love 
the one ad which is one minute long and 15 seconds for the actual endorsement 
by a sports figure and then 40 seconds of warnings and disclaimers.  Only a 
fool would want to take that shit.  And it also for an ailment that is curable 
by correcting the metabolic imbalance.
 
 And then there is the problem of "proper doctors" misdiagnosing. It happens 
far too often.
 
 I think Salvy's just a "science fan" and not a scientist.