date:20140830

A blues band basically but with a different sound.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX5rlZl86K0 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX5rlZl86K0

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama is a Radical Islamic?

2014-08-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

S3, 

 Your points are well taken.  ISIS is a unique brand of jihadists.  They're 
actually comparable to the Mafia.  Their syndicate must be busted and put them 
in court to be charged for crimes against humanity.  It's the only way to 
handle these criminals.  Otherwise, they'll be a threat to civilization.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

Perhaps so.  I hope so. But, I also see a sense of entitlement that I can't 
figure out.  At least with my oldest. The good news is that I think reality is 
finally starting to sink in, for him, at least.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I think they will do amazing things, too. That generation is far ahead of us, 
with many accomplishing effortlessly what it took us many years to see.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It of course depends on how you want to live, your skills, your saving money 
savy,whether you get social security and a pension.  It will be really 
interesting to see what people do in the next 30 years.  Many have not worked 
long enough to support a 35 year retirement.  I know of several extended 
families that are living under one roof - the 30 year olds move back in with 
the parents because they cannot afford a house or rental, then they help their 
parents (our age) with rent and chores.  and the parents get to be around their 
grandchildren.  I would expect that this will become more and more typical 
since it helps everyone with finances as well as socializing.  I look forward 
to seeing what the millenials will be doing in all sorts of areas- social 
policy, climate change, jobs, food, belief systems.  Maybe I am too optimistic, 
but I think they might do some terrific things (most especially to deal with 
global warming).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I own up to being a member of the DE fan club.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

P.S. I think it was the largess of Amma's spirit. But, I'll be on my way;
I've been sloppy today with my emails.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

On 8/30/2014 12:38 PM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:

Yep. Interesting what has happened. The limits were removed. Almost
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat
room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel. Gone
are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one
wanted to converse. Limits that forced a pause in the action. Quite the
statement this forum is, really.

>
Now that's a thought-stopper!

Who let you in here, Denise? If you don't like to read our posts nobody is
forcing you to stick around. I'll put my messages up against yours any day. You
are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you post your comments.

Denise Evans:

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.com&l=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.com&l=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:punditster@... wrote :

On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately,
with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read
here any more, no discussions of any substance...

>
You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments,
Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the
comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
Author: Richard J. Williams
Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while. Is Barry (turq) on
vacation or did he say goodbye to FFL? I miss his posts.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama is a Radical Islamic?

2014-08-30 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re "Great to read the comments on that articles . . .":

Check out this rant by a Muslim-hating Brit. I bet he felt good after
recording this. The thing is I know where he's coming from and share his
irritation but he misses a crucial point that there are lots of British Muslims
who just want to get on with their lives and support their families. If there's
going to be a "Reformation" in the Islamic world the best hope is that it
originates with Muslims who have been brought up in modern western, liberal
societies and have absorbed our more tolerant values. So we should encourage
them. To accuse all Muslims of being fanatics is *exactly* what ISIS would want
us to do.
(There are large numbers of Sufis in Iran apparently so that could be
promising if they ever get to dominate the fundamentalist peasant majority who
support the Ayatollahs.)
Anyway, this should invigorate you . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCXHPKhRCVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCXHPKhRCVg

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Great to read the comments on that articles. Shows what a bunch primitives
read the Examiner. Reading them gives good reason to banish the ignorance
called "religion" from the face of the earth.

On 08/30/2014 06:25 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Well at least a community organizer. If he had half the heart and
intelligence his followers ascribed to him, he'd be looking for a way to commit
suicide, But that's too Shinto, not Islamic at all.

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:58 PM, "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]"
mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife]
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

An ex-CIA employee says so.

http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-now-admits-that-president-obama-is-a-radical-islamic-enemy-of-america

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama is a Radical Islamic?

Banishment of religion may be unconstitutional in the USA.  Freedom of religion 
applies to atheists as well.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great to read the comments on that articles.  Shows what a bunch primitives 
read the Examiner.  Reading them gives good reason to banish the ignorance 
called "religion" from the face of the earth.
 
 On 08/30/2014 06:25 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Well at least a community organizer. If he had half the heart and 
intelligence his followers ascribed to him, he'd be looking for a way to commit 
suicide, But that's too Shinto, not Islamic at all. 
 
 

 On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:58 PM, "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife]  
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 
 
   An ex-CIA employee says so.
 
 
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-now-admits-that-president-obama-is-a-radical-islamic-enemy-of-america
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-now-admits-that-president-obama-is-a-radical-islamic-enemy-of-america

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama is a Radical Islamic?

2014-08-30 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Islamists or jihadists commit suicide all the time.  But they like to use bombs 
to take everyone else with them.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well at least a community organizer. If he had half the heart and 
intelligence his followers ascribed to him, he'd be looking for a way to commit 
suicide, But that's too Shinto, not Islamic at all. 
 


 On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:58 PM, "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   An ex-CIA employee says so.
 

 
http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-now-admits-that-president-obama-is-a-radical-islamic-enemy-of-america
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-now-admits-that-president-obama-is-a-radical-islamic-enemy-of-america

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama is a Radical Islamic?

Great to read the comments on that articles.  Shows what a bunch 
primitives read the Examiner. Reading them gives good reason to banish 
the ignorance called "religion" from the face of the earth.


On 08/30/2014 06:25 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Well at least a community organizer. If he had half the heart and 
intelligence his followers ascribed to him, he'd be looking for a way 
to commit suicide, But that's too Shinto, not Islamic at all.



On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:58 PM, "jr_...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



An ex-CIA employee says so.

http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-now-admits-that-president-obama-is-a-radical-islamic-enemy-of-america

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are renunciation and restraint necessary to gain enlightenment? - Maharishi and Muggeridge

2014-08-30 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Your take is a highly intellectualized version of what de Caussade and the 
Taoists are saying (nothing wrong with that!). De Caussade's little book 
amounts to his advice to go with the flow and to let go of our constant 
attempts to label this experience as good and that as bad. It really is Taoist 
and so all the more impressive as de Caussade had no doubt never read Lao Tzu. 
He's saying the same as the Zen classic the Hsin Hsin Ming: It’s not difficult 
to discover your Buddha Mind
But just don’t try to search for it.
Cease accepting and rejecting possible places
Where you think it can be found
And it will appear before you.
 Be warned! The slightest exercise of preference
Will open a gulf as wide and deep
as the space between heaven and earth.
 If you want to encounter your Buddha Mind
Don’t have opinions about anything.
Opinions produce argument 
And contentiousness is a disease of the mind.
 Plunge into the depths.
Stillness is deep. There’s nothing profound in shallow waters.
The Buddha Mind is perfect and it encompasses the universe.
It lacks nothing and has nothing in excess.
If you think that you can choose between its parts
You’ll miss its very essence.
 . . . 
 

 

 

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 There are no c
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yeah, exactly. There is a massive universe churning away out there, and once 
it becomes visceral to us, everything takes on an entirely different light. No 
More Isolation. Whatever you want to call Bliss, God, spiritual life, unity, 
love, whatever it is called, it all means that not only have the many become 
one, but also the one stretches infinitely in every direction, real and 
imagined. The expression, "everything changes, and nothing changes" is the apt 
one. We are forever suspended in paradox, in transcendence, in oneness. That 
oneness comes alive, unifies thought, emotion, action, so that everything is 
seen automatically in a context that always makes sense, even if it must be 
figured out. Logic and deduction are all means to an end, but cannot sit by 
themselves. So, there is no grand unification theory, based on science, or a 
direction prescribed by religion,  there is only the lively reality of oneness, 
the active sensation of oneness, and a life of expanding oneness, unification. 
Everything, no matter what the feeling is at the time, serves to enlarge us, in 
an ever growing approximation of the universe, ever in front of us, beckoning 
us to grow, just one step further. Nothing is wasted.  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Here's another quote from de Caussade (I wish there were more Catholics like 
him): 

 "Those who have abandoned themselves to God always lead mysterious lives and 
receive from him exceptional and miraculous gifts by means of the most 
ordinary, natural and chance experiences in which there appears to be nothing 
unusual. The simplest sermon, the most banal conversation, the least erudite 
books become a source of knowledge and wisdom to these souls by virtue of God's 
purpose. This is why they carefully pick up crumbs which clever minds tread 
under foot, for to them everything is precious and a source of enrichment. They 
exist in a state of total impartiality, neglecting nothing, respecting and 
making use of everything."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Like what?  Every generation does it's own thing and the millenials are 
no exception.  I call it "the rock'n roll effect" because each 
generation likes to have it's own culture.  Unfortunately the millenials 
were raised with the "everyone wins" meme which is a lie.  They think 
everything they do is great.  Just look at their great work on Neo, for 
example. :-D


On 08/30/2014 06:48 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:


I think they will do amazing things, too. That generation is far ahead 
of us, with many accomplishing effortlessly what it took us many years 
to see.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It of course depends on how you want to live, your skills, your saving 
money savy,whether you get social security and a pension.  It will be 
really interesting to see what people do in the next 30 years.  Many 
have not worked long enough to support a 35 year retirement.  I know 
of several extended families that are living under one roof - the 30 
year olds move back in with the parents because they cannot afford a 
house or rental, then they help their parents (our age) with rent and 
chores.  and the parents get to be around their grandchildren.  I 
would expect that this will become more and more typical since it 
helps everyone with finances as well as socializing.  I look forward 
to seeing what the millenials will be doing in all sorts of areas- 
social policy, climate change, jobs, food, belief systems.  Maybe I am 
too optimistic, but I think they might do some terrific things (most 
especially to deal with global warming).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

salyavin, my two answers are: I'm neither a dualist nor a duelist (-:

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:19 PM, salyavin808  
wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Salyavin, could you guys please make up your ding dang minds?! Either we're too 
dense and weighing down one end of the boat, or we're too fluffy. We can't be 
both!

You mean you aren't a dualist? 

 Check your physics books if you don't believe me. 

OK, it says that you have a guilty conscience because we saved you a seat in 
the lifeboat. But if you'd rather stay around here

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 3:17 PM, salyavin808  
wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Share,

It's a big boat.  There's plenty of room for everyone.

I'm just worried that the sudden increase of density at one end will upend it.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I heard an analogy once that makes sense to me wrt FFL: that we're all in this 
lifeboat together. If one person changes position or leaves the boat, or if 
someone new arrives, everybody has to shift a bit to help maintain the balance 
of the boat. Ahoy mateys!

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:17 PM, "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:

I think the folks here have spoken
clearly as to who the two trolls are.  Alex doesn't want to deal
with the post limit and I can't blame him.  This is supposed to be
a forum for adults not teenagers.  Salvy is right, the graffiti
trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they hate the place.

On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:

Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and
are equitable, because after all, one person's troll is
another's fantasy and who on this forum is qualified to
make that decision?  I like the idea of posting limits for
this forum and always did, but, of course, certainly
wouldn't want to be hall monitor myself.  So, to the
degree that I check in here, I choose to live with the
consequences of "forum freedom." 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Posting
limits are stupid but
moderation is not.  The trolls would have been
booted long ago if
someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little
bit.  Most other
group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested
that Richard needs
a hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the
trolls and
especially don't reply to them.  Then they'll
return to the
bridges they live under.

On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:

>>Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The
limits were
removed. Almost immediately, Richard and
Share ushered the
forum into its evolution as a chat room -
characterized as
all are by a preponderence of meaningless
drivel.  Gone
are the limits telling the brain to put
some thought into
a post, put some thought into topics, put
some thought
into with who and in what format one
wanted to converse.
 Limits that forced a pause in the action.
 Quite the
statement this forum is, really.   
>>
>>
>>
>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>>
>>
>>On
8/30/2014
6:51 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>>
>> 
He has
been on vacation. But FFL
seems to have gone
mostly to
fluff lately, with a lot of
short spammy
twinkie brain
posts so there is not much
to read here any
more, no
discussions of any
substance...

>
>>>You are supposed to read the
messages here BEFORE
you post your own
comments, Ajax. I thought my replies
to Bill were
right on topic,
compared to the comments posted by
the other
informants. YMMV. Go
figure.
>>>
>>>Subject: Awake: The Life Of
Yogananda
>>>Author: Richard J. Williams
>>>Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
>>>Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I have not
really followed FFL
regularly for a
while.  Is Barry
(turq) on vacation
 or did he say
goodbye to FFL?  I
miss his posts.
>>>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] I Got My Readership...

2014-08-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

dear Dan and Steve, I seem to have lost the narrative thread...what's happening 
with Goldilocks wrt FFL?! Anyway, Happy Labor Day Weekend, 3 bears and all (-:



On Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:05 PM, danfriedman2002 
 wrote:
 


  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


This isn't Goldilocks Share.  I think you're just right!

Got to Love a Passionate Woman, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Indeed you do, NYC Dan! Power to the peoples (-:



On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:04 PM, danfriedman2002 
 wrote:



 
...and they support Share Long and Richard Williams.

Labor Unite!

Reform the bourgeoisie!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I think they will do amazing things, too. That generation is far ahead of us, 
with many accomplishing effortlessly what it took us many years to see.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It of course depends on how you want to live, your skills, your saving money 
savy,whether you get social security and a pension.  It will be really 
interesting to see what people do in the next 30 years.  Many have not worked 
long enough to support a 35 year retirement.  I know of several extended 
families that are living under one roof - the 30 year olds move back in with 
the parents because they cannot afford a house or rental, then they help their 
parents (our age) with rent and chores.  and the parents get to be around their 
grandchildren.  I would expect that this will become more and more typical 
since it helps everyone with finances as well as socializing.  I look forward 
to seeing what the millenials will be doing in all sorts of areas- social 
policy, climate change, jobs, food, belief systems.  Maybe I am too optimistic, 
but I think they might do some terrific things (most especially to deal with 
global warming).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

It of course depends on how you want to live, your skills, your saving money 
savy,whether you get social security and a pension.  It will be really 
interesting to see what people do in the next 30 years.  Many have not worked 
long enough to support a 35 year retirement.  I know of several extended 
families that are living under one roof - the 30 year olds move back in with 
the parents because they cannot afford a house or rental, then they help their 
parents (our age) with rent and chores.  and the parents get to be around their 
grandchildren.  I would expect that this will become more and more typical 
since it helps everyone with finances as well as socializing.  I look forward 
to seeing what the millenials will be doing in all sorts of areas- social 
policy, climate change, jobs, food, belief systems.  Maybe I am too optimistic, 
but I think they might do some terrific things (most especially to deal with 
global warming).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama is a Radical Islamic?

2014-08-30 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Well at least a community organizer. If he had half the heart and 
intelligence his followers ascribed to him, he'd be looking for a way to commit 
suicide, But that's too Shinto, not Islamic at all.  


On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:58 PM, "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
  


  
An ex-CIA employee says so.

http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-now-admits-that-president-obama-is-a-radical-islamic-enemy-of-america

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread dmevans...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Dear Daniel:  First off, I was not having a spat with Richard.  Second, I was 
teasing in response to the line "Who let you in here"   

 Yours in objectivity, dmevans.  See ya next month.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Re: "Who let you in here, Denise?"  Well, Richd, you aren't the first 
person to say this and you probably won't be the last.  Some of you TM'ers sure 
are cliquey - what, do you think you're special in some way?  [Dearest Denise, 
my name is Dan, so we have a lot in common from the get-go. I am curious about 
something, and you might be the perfect person to satisfy my curiosity 
(bringing resolution to one last-outstanding between me an the Big U). In 
return I shall do a big favor for you one day. You have My Word (and a written 
chit, if necessary). Well, here it is: You and Richard are having a spat 
(correct, so far?). Some insults are hurled and names called. Nothing unusual 
so far, right? But right here you take a Quantum Jump. So my question is: why 
escalate to...   
"Some of you TM'ers sure are cliquey - what, do you think you're special in 
some way?" and thus insure a gang fight. In my hood, the person who tried this 
sort of thing would be put down by his own gang. It is sort of a survival thing 
to avoid wars over petty disagreements between 2 people.]

See how that works. I'm relying on your objectivity to unravel this one Last 
Mystery for me.

From NYC - Make Love Not War
d

 P.S. I think it was the largess of Amma's spirit.  But, I'll be on my way; 
I've been sloppy today with my emails.   
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 12:38 PM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed. Almost 
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat 
room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone 
are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some 
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one 
wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the 
statement this forum is, really.   

 >
 Now that's a thought-stopper!

 Who let you in here, Denise? If you don't like to read our posts nobody is 
forcing you to stick around. I'll put my messages up against yours any day. You 
are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you post  your comments.

 Denise Evans:

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.com&l=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.com&l=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, 
with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read 
here any more, no discussions of any substance...

 >
 You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments, 
Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the 
comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

 Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
 Author: Richard J. Williams
 Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
 Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

 I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry (turq) on 
vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are renunciation and restraint necessary to gain enlightenment? - Maharishi and Muggeridge

2014-08-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Yeah, exactly. There is a massive universe churning away out there, and once it 
becomes visceral to us, everything takes on an entirely different light. No 
More Isolation. Whatever you want to call Bliss, God, spiritual life, unity, 
love, whatever it is called, it all means that not only have the many become 
one, but also the one stretches infinitely in every direction, real and 
imagined. The expression, "everything changes, and nothing changes" is the apt 
one. We are forever suspended in paradox, in transcendence, in oneness. That 
oneness comes alive, unifies thought, emotion, action, so that everything is 
seen automatically in a context that always makes sense, even if it must be 
figured out. Logic and deduction are all means to an end, but cannot sit by 
themselves. So, there is no grand unification theory, based on science, or a 
direction prescribed by religion,  there is only the lively reality of oneness, 
the active sensation of oneness, and a life of expanding oneness, unification. 
Everything, no matter what the feeling is at the time, serves to enlarge us, in 
an ever growing approximation of the universe, ever in front of us, beckoning 
us to grow, just one step further. Nothing is wasted.  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Here's another quote from de Caussade (I wish there were more Catholics like 
him): 

 "Those who have abandoned themselves to God always lead mysterious lives and 
receive from him exceptional and miraculous gifts by means of the most 
ordinary, natural and chance experiences in which there appears to be nothing 
unusual. The simplest sermon, the most banal conversation, the least erudite 
books become a source of knowledge and wisdom to these souls by virtue of God's 
purpose. This is why they carefully pick up crumbs which clever minds tread 
under foot, for to them everything is precious and a source of enrichment. They 
exist in a state of total impartiality, neglecting nothing, respecting and 
making use of everything."

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re "I only read a few people's posts, and I mainly agree with the things they 
have to say.":
 

 Christ! That sounds ominous. We rely on you to stir it up. Conformity is a 
death trip.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's Crap Art

2014-08-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Beautiful picture! Thank you for clarifying all of that, clearly and perfectly,
with a lot of detail - a fascinating subject, and great to hear it from someone
with lots of experience. I have seen stables in historical places, and I find
it almost dream-like, that horses were everywhere, just a hundred years ago,
even though it obviously didn't scale. Riding in stagecoaches, carriages, and
wagons - hard to imagine, and a hard ride, no doubt.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

It was a seamless performance - almost like a centaur. Horses are so light on
their feet, too (which are smaller than ours), all while carrying a person and
saddle! I hope it doesn't hurt the horse's neck to be reined in tight like
that. I see it enough that I suppose not, but it does look somewhat
uncomfortable.

The outline of the horse is determined mostly by the horse. You couldn't pull
that horse's neck in like that if you were hanging on for your life and pulling
with all your might - the horse is still stronger. It is the way the horse
naturally goes when its back is working and the hindlegs engaged. It would be
impossible for the horse to do what it does at this level unless it is using
its topline, its back muscles. An inverted horse is a weak horse and in pain -
one that is round is comfortable as long as it has been developed and trained
over time to become educated and it muscles strengthened. You can overdo the
use of the curb rein for sure and there are times when bad dressage riders ride
overbent but as long as the front profile of the horse's nose is not behind the
vertical you are okay. Trust me, if this horse was hurting he wouldn't do what
he does for that rider. They are the perfect team and a once-in-a-hundred years
phenomenon. This particular performance is a freestyle which means they
choreographed certain required Grand Prix movements to music of their choice in
the sequence of their choice. The double canter pirouettes are astounding -
trust me! Thanks for watching. Now, to see it in real life is even more
spectacular.

See photo of horse naturally passaging and see how it holds its head and neck
with no rider, no bit.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Thanks, and as part of our mutual admiration society, I marvel at your ability
to both ride, and care for, horses, who I am convinced come from another planet
- well, not convinced, but their power, size, beauty, intelligence and
wonderful weirdness, is astounding. My contribution is watching "Mr. Ed", aka,
"Bamboo Harvester", on TV.

Heh. I have a personal theory that horses are closer to the celestial realm
than other animals. I also want to share with you an incredible horse/rider
combination who are currently competing at the World Equestrian Games in
Normandy. These two are as close as you can get to the ideal in dressage,
indeed, the ideal in what riding is all about. Please have a look, this is
their freestyle ridden just yesterday by Charlotte Dujardin and Valegro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DptNN7CdfSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DptNN7CdfSM

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Yes, agreed. Even if I don't revel in the feelings his art evokes in me, I
respect his effort, his skill in getting his message across, and his nakedness,
in putting such deep stuff out there, for all to see, and judge.

Said like a guy who appreciates all kinds of art and is an artist himself.
Always enjoy you Mac.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Thanks. The exhibit could travel next to Fairfield, and be displayed at MUM -
Provocative stuff. His work is well done, and he puts a lot of skill and effort
into it. I guess the art world needs those who focus on darker themes as Lynch
often does. A little goes a long way, though.

Yes, interesting. I love the man with the long arms and the matches. His
"little" pieces are like small exposes or revelations of a moment or event -
not exactly Botticelli or Raphael but evocative and worth a look at. I can't
pretend to know what animates Lynch but he is a thoughtful man and his art
certainly is worth a look at.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I guarantee if any art student at MUM put produced some garbage like this, the
university would send them home with a note to their parents saying "get your
son some psychiatric help!"

What a joke the Movement has become.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/arts/design/museum-show-for-david-lynch-who-began-as-a-visual-artist.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=Moth-Visible&module=inside-nyt-region®ion=inside-nyt-region&WT.nav=inside-nyt-regionhttp://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/arts/design/museum-show-for-david-lynch-who-began-as-a-visual-artist.html

http://www.nytime

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm Out

2014-08-30 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 I've not read Leadbeater's The Masters and the Path. I have read his The 
Chakras; Thought Forms; and Man Visible and Invisible. Those three books are 
all *easy*, lucid reads and pioneered New Age thinking in these fields so are 
precious. Let us know how you take to The Masters and the Path and if you 
recommend it I'll try that title also.
 

 Thanks.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Just saying good night, after a good day. My copy of 
 The Masters and the Path by Leadbeater, C. W.arrived today, recommended by Ms 
s3, so I'm on to it.

I wish you All Well, life is short and so uncertain.

But I was encouraged by the Stream of tease as they passed me by. Some 
favorites:

"Act, Don't Think" on a particularly Active-Looking Woman.

"Palo Alto Bowling Club" covering, well you know.


Sweetest dreams. Don't forget the early to bed, early to rise routine (even if 
you don't follow Movement Rules).

Your pal,
d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are renunciation and restraint necessary to gain enlightenment? - Maharishi and Muggeridge

2014-08-30 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Here's another quote from de Caussade (I wish there were more Catholics like 
him): 

 "Those who have abandoned themselves to God always lead mysterious lives and 
receive from him exceptional and miraculous gifts by means of the most 
ordinary, natural and chance experiences in which there appears to be nothing 
unusual. The simplest sermon, the most banal conversation, the least erudite 
books become a source of knowledge and wisdom to these souls by virtue of God's 
purpose. This is why they carefully pick up crumbs which clever minds tread 
under foot, for to them everything is precious and a source of enrichment. They 
exist in a state of total impartiality, neglecting nothing, respecting and 
making use of everything."

[FairfieldLife] I'm Out

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

Just saying good night, after a good day. My copy of 
 The Masters and the Path by Leadbeater, C. W.arrived today, recommended by Ms 
s3, so I'm on to it.

I wish you All Well, life is short and so uncertain.

But I was encouraged by the Stream of tease as they passed me by. Some 
favorites:

"Act, Don't Think" on a particularly Active-Looking Woman.

"Palo Alto Bowling Club" covering, well you know.


Sweetest dreams. Don't forget the early to bed, early to rise routine (even if 
you don't follow Movement Rules).

Your pal,
d

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two
trolls are. Alex doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I
can't blame him. This is supposed to be a forum for adults not
teenagers. Salvy is right, the graffiti trolls are just trying to
ruin FFL because they hate the place.

>
Wow! Now that's a thought-stopper. Calling someone a "troll" makes
assumptions about a writer's motives that are impossible to
determine. The term troll is highly subjective, and some posts
will look like trolling to some while seeming like meaningful
contributions to others.

On 8/30/2014 6:45 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

That's for sure, imagine someone actually looking for bawee wight
here.

>
Imagine what this place would be like without any TMers - who would the 
informants rail against, themselves? Now that would be funny!

>

>

On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are
equitable, because after all, one person's troll is another's
fantasy and who on this forum is qualified to make that
decision?  I like the idea of posting limits for this forum and
always did, but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be hall
monitor myself.  So, to the degree that I check in here, I
choose to live with the consequences of "forum freedom."

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

Postinglimits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls
would have been booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to
moderate just a little bit.  Most other group moderators do
this.  Rick even suggested that Richard needs a hobby.   Best
policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't
reply to them.  Then they'll return to the bridges they live under.

On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were
removed. Almost immediately, Richard and Share ushered the
forum into its evolution as a chat room - characterized as
all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone are
the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a
post, put some thought into topics, put some thought into
with who and in what format one wanted to converse.  Limits
that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the statement
this forum is, really.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

On 8/30/20146:51 AM, anartaxius@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone
mostly to fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy
twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read here
any more, no discussions of any substance...

>
You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you
post your own comments, Ajax. I thought my replies to
Bill were right on topic, compared to the comments
posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
Author: Richard J. Williams
Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014

http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
,
  wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.
 Is Barry (turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to
FFL?  I miss his posts.

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2014-08-30 Thread FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The greatest ever guitar riff

2014-08-30 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Not a *guitar* riff - but nevertheless quite possibly the greatest riff ever . 
. . ladies and gentlemen I give you Ludwig van: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7pQytF2nak 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7pQytF2nak

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are renunciation and restraint necessary to gain enlightenment? - Maharishi and Muggeridge

Dearest s3raphita,

I agree 98+ %.

Could have done without "before he retreated..."

It's not nice to talk out of school.

You should know that.

Signed,
your partner in crime
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Malcolm Muggeridge was a high-profile personality on late sixties/early 
seventies British TV and had some hard-hitting encounters with assorted trendy 
celebrities. When he conducted his (BBC Third Programme) interview with MMY I 
expected him to own Maharishi lock, stock and barrel. Instead he seemed a bit 
lost for words as Maharishi's message was so simple and so out of the ordinary 
that Muggeridge wasn't clear how to respond. 
 Interestingly, journalist Muggeridge had made his own journey from cynical 
agnostic and lefty sympathizer - via his pioneering expose of Stalinist 
atrocities in the thirties - to a nuanced (but very anti-pleasure) Christian 
position by the time he met MMY. Muggeridge was a big fan of de Caussade's 
Abandonment to Divine Providence which has to be the most Taoist Catholic work 
ever penned - highly recommended. In fact, Muggs' wife [Kitty] even made her 
own translation of the classic.
 

 Great interview though - from the days when Maharishi wasn't afraid of meeting 
potentially hostile interviewers - and so before he retreated to his own 
personal la la land.
  
 "What is the secret of finding the Treasure? There isn't one. The Treasure is 
everywhere. It is offered to us at every moment and wherever we find ourselves. 
All creatures, friends or enemies, pour it out abundantly, and it courses 
through every fiber of our body and soul until it reaches the very core of our 
being. If we open our mouths they will be filled. God's activity runs through 
the entire universe. It wells up around and penetrates every created being. 
Wherever they are, it is there also.

 It runs ahead of them, it stays with them, and it follows after them. All they 
have to do is to allow its waves to sweep them forward, fulfill the simple 
duties of their religion and status in life, accept cheerfully all the 
difficulties they meet, and surrender to the will of God in all they have to 
do…. This is authentic spirituality, and it is valid for all times and for 
everyone. We could not choose to become good in a better, more miraculous, and 
yet easier way than by the simple use of the means offered us by God; the 
whole-hearted acceptance of everything that comes to us at every moment of our 
lives." - de Caussade

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm with you guys. Sal, fyi, I like my sandwiches non-dual; just one slice of 
bread per filling, please - referred to spiritually, as, "Open Face". That way, 
there is no inside, or outside, to the sandwich, and if constructed with peanut 
butter, the experience is 'Pure Oneneth'.  yous making me hungry. Or am I? 
Who's to know?

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Share, 

 It's a big boat.  There's plenty of room for everyone.

 I'm just worried that the sudden increase of density at one end will upend it.

 I've got my life jacket and have an extra life boat with room for three others.

 I'll make sandwiches, we'll navigate by the stars, maybe we'll find a more 
agreeable shore by sunrise... 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I heard an analogy once that makes sense to me wrt FFL: that we're all in this 
lifeboat together. If one person changes position or leaves the boat, or if 
someone new arrives, everybody has to shift a bit to help maintain the balance 
of the boat. Ahoy mateys!

 On Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:17 PM, "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:

 I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two trolls are.  Alex 
doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I can't blame him.  This is 
supposed to be a forum for adults not teenagers.  Salvy is right, the graffiti 
trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they hate the place.

 On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are equitable, 
because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy and who on this 
forum is qualified to make that decision?  I like the idea of posting limits 
for this forum and always did, but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be 
hall monitor myself.  So, to the degree that I check in here, I choose to live 
with the consequences of "forum freedom." 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

 Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would have been 
booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little bit.  Most 
other group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested that Richard needs a 
hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't 
reply to them.  Then they'll return to the bridges they live under.

 On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed. Almost 
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat 
room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone 
are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some 
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one 
wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the 
statement this forum is, really.   

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, 
with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read 
here any more, no discussions of any substance...

 >
 You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments, 
Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the 
comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

 Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
 Author: Richard J. Williams
 Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
 Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

 I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry (turq) on 
vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] I Got My Readership...

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This isn't Goldilocks Share.  I think you're just right!
 Got to Love a Passionate Woman, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Indeed you do, NYC Dan! Power to the peoples (-:

 


 On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:04 PM, danfriedman2002 
 wrote:
 
 

   ...and they support Share Long and Richard Williams.

Labor Unite!

Reform the bourgeoisie!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

On 8/30/2014 5:47 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

I'm with you guys. Sal, fyi, I like my sandwiches non-dual; just one 
slice of bread per filling, please - referred to spiritually, as, 
"Open Face". That way, there is no inside, or outside, to the 
sandwich, and if constructed with peanut butter, the experience is 
'Pure Oneneth'.

>
Jim - You can eat a taco open-faced or folded, with meat or without, and 
with or without red sauce and sprinkled with condiments, but either way, 
it's all just ONE big Tex-Mex mess. If you do this twice a day, you are 
a very bright fellow. Don't forget to pick up the Pace!

>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Share,

It's a big boat.  There's plenty of room for everyone.

I'm just worried that the sudden increase of density at one end will 
upend it.

I've got my life jacket and have an extra life boat with room for 
three others.

*
*
I'll make sandwiches, we'll navigate by the stars, maybe we'll find a 
more agreeable shore by sunrise...

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I heard an analogy once that makes sense to me wrt FFL: that we're all 
in this lifeboat together. If one person changes position or leaves 
the boat, or if someone new arrives, everybody has to shift a bit to 
help maintain the balance of the boat. Ahoy mateys!

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:17 PM, "Bhairitu noozguru@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:

I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two trolls 
are. Alex doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I can't blame 
him.  This is supposed to be a forum for adults not teenagers. Salvy 
is right, the graffiti trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they 
hate the place.

On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Posting limits function as a moderator, in a
sense, and are equitable, because after all, one
person's troll is another's fantasy and who on
this forum is qualified to make that decision?  I
like the idea of posting limits for this forum
and always did, but, of course, certainly
wouldn't want to be hall monitor myself.  So, to
the degree that I check in here, I choose to live
with the consequences of "forum freedom."

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
,
  wrote :

Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not. 
The trolls would have been booted long ago if

someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little
bit.  Most other group moderators do this.  Rick
even suggested that Richard needs a hobby. Best
policy currently is to ignore the trolls and
especially don't reply to them.  Then they'll
return to the bridges they live under.

On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@...
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The
limits were removed. Almost immediately,
Richard and Share ushered the forum into its
evolution as a chat room - characterized as
all are by a preponderence of meaningless
drivel.  Gone are the limits telling the
brain to put some thought into a post, put
some thought into topics, put some thought
into with who and in what format one wanted
to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in
the action.  Quite the statement this forum
is, really.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
,
  wrote :

On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@...
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems
to have gone mostly to fluff lately,
with a lot of short spammy twinkie
brain posts so there is not much to
read here any more, no discussions of
any substance...

>
You are supposed to read the messages

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 08/30/2014 03:17 PM, wayback71@... mailto:wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Glad you are still here.  I too have taken long stretches of time off from 
FFL.  You might enjoy The 100 foot Journey with Helen Mirren. Fluff but 
charming.  Movie attendance in the US has been way way down this summer. Much 
of the best stuff is on TV.  Here in the US a really big issue these days in 
medical marijuana, its uses, which states allow it and in what manner. Another 
tidbit, financial planners are now routinely telling people to expect to have 
to make their savings last til age 95. Conservative planners use age 100, 
especially for younger people. A new and longer life span, and the need to save 
more and retire later.  


 
 So how many millions or billions (given future inflation) do they have to save 
up?  You need several million dollars to comfortably retire these days.  I 
think some of the financial planners may be living on another planet.  They are 
certainly not very realistic about how much income one can make and save.  
Maybe they're smoking some of that medical marijuana? ;-) 
Bhairitu,
Retire now. Save's money.

Free money advise from Wall Street
In the great city of new york

[FairfieldLife] Obama is a Radical Islamic?

An ex-CIA employee says so.
 

 
http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-now-admits-that-president-obama-is-a-radical-islamic-enemy-of-america
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-now-admits-that-president-obama-is-a-radical-islamic-enemy-of-america

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Re: "Who let you in here, Denise?" Well, Richd, you aren't the first
person to say this and you probably won't be the last. Some of you TM'ers sure
are cliquey - what, do you think you're special in some way? [Dearest Denise,
my name is Dan, so we have a lot in common from the get-go. I am curious about
something, and you might be the perfect person to satisfy my curiosity
(bringing resolution to one last-outstanding between me an the Big U). In
return I shall do a big favor for you one day. You have My Word (and a written
chit, if necessary). Well, here it is: You and Richard are having a spat
(correct, so far?). Some insults are hurled and names called. Nothing unusual
so far, right? But right here you take a Quantum Jump. So my question is: why
escalate to...
"Some of you TM'ers sure are cliquey - what, do you think you're special in
some way?" and thus insure a gang fight. In my hood, the person who tried this
sort of thing would be put down by his own gang. It is sort of a survival thing
to avoid wars over petty disagreements between 2 people.]

See how that works. I'm relying on your objectivity to unravel this one Last
Mystery for me.

From NYC - Make Love Not War
d

P.S. I think it was the largess of Amma's spirit. But, I'll be on my way;
I've been sloppy today with my emails.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

On 8/30/2014 12:38 PM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:

>
Now that's a thought-stopper!

Denise Evans:

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.com&l=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.com&l=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:punditster@... wrote :

On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while. Is Barry (turq) on
vacation or did he say goodbye to FFL? I miss his posts.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are renunciation and restraint necessary to gain enlightenment? - Maharishi and Muggeridge

2014-08-30 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Malcolm Muggeridge was a high-profile personality on late sixties/early 
seventies British TV and had some hard-hitting encounters with assorted trendy 
celebrities. When he conducted his (BBC Third Programme) interview with MMY I 
expected him to own Maharishi lock, stock and barrel. Instead he seemed a bit 
lost for words as Maharishi's message was so simple and so out of the ordinary 
that Muggeridge wasn't clear how to respond. 
 Interestingly, journalist Muggeridge had made his own journey from cynical 
agnostic and lefty sympathizer - via his pioneering expose of Stalinist 
atrocities in the thirties - to a nuanced (but very anti-pleasure) Christian 
position by the time he met MMY. Muggeridge was a big fan of de Caussade's 
Abandonment to Divine Providence which has to be the most Taoist Catholic work 
ever penned - highly recommended. In fact, Muggs' wife [Kitty] even made her 
own translation of the classic.
 

 Great interview though - from the days when Maharishi wasn't afraid of meeting 
potentially hostile interviewers - and so before he retreated to his own 
personal la la land.
  
 "What is the secret of finding the Treasure? There isn't one. The Treasure is 
everywhere. It is offered to us at every moment and wherever we find ourselves. 
All creatures, friends or enemies, pour it out abundantly, and it courses 
through every fiber of our body and soul until it reaches the very core of our 
being. If we open our mouths they will be filled. God's activity runs through 
the entire universe. It wells up around and penetrates every created being. 
Wherever they are, it is there also.

 It runs ahead of them, it stays with them, and it follows after them. All they 
have to do is to allow its waves to sweep them forward, fulfill the simple 
duties of their religion and status in life, accept cheerfully all the 
difficulties they meet, and surrender to the will of God in all they have to 
do…. This is authentic spirituality, and it is valid for all times and for 
everyone. We could not choose to become good in a better, more miraculous, and 
yet easier way than by the simple use of the means offered us by God; the 
whole-hearted acceptance of everything that comes to us at every moment of our 
lives." - de Caussade

[FairfieldLife] Wallah Speaks

Wallah Speaks - Recorded on April 16, 2001.

http://youtu.be/Of6HTfncgyY

Re: [FairfieldLife] I Got My Readership...

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 6:34 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

This isn't Goldilocks Share.  I think you're just right!

>
God forbid that anyone would want to have some fun posting to a 
discussion group, Steve!

Seriously, I've been posting to Google Groups since 1999 and to Yahoo! 
Groups since 2003, and there's just no pleasing some people. I've posted 
long on-topic essays, short on-topic essays and sometimes just chit-chat 
for years and there's just no pleasing some people. While they were 
posting messages that all begin with RE: and begin and end end on one 
line, I wrote a whole book.

What we need is MORE posting, not less. It takes what, five minutes to 
read the messages every day on FFL? Some people just feel better when 
they have someone to talk to. Other people are just not happy if others 
are happy.

My analysis is that most, but not all of the informants here are either 
prejudiced against people from Texas or they are just plain JELLOS - I'd 
prefer to think they were just jealous, but many times it's just obvious 
they are plain ornery and old and bored. So, let's entertain them. Bring 
it on!

http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Indeed you do, NYC Dan! Power to the peoples (-:

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:04 PM, danfriedman2002 
 wrote:

...and they support Share Long and Richard Williams.

Labor Unite!

Reform the bourgeoisie!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

2014-08-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Salyavin and Rick, 

 Now that you thought of  a debate.  I would recommend that Rick set up a 
debate on BATGAP between Hagelin and Krauss on the issue of, "Is the Universe 
Based on Consciousness?" 
 

 This could be a potential viral hit on YouTube.
 

 I'd give it a "like" for sure. The trouble with fringe whacko's is that they 
don't get the chance to debate with leaders in their fields. Atheists do not 
create with creationists because it gives any passing observer the idea that 
creationism is a valid point of view. Sounds arrogant but you have to draw the 
line somewhere and besides, these things take time to research, anyone willing 
to take on JH would have to put the legwork in to make sure they had enough 
against it to win a debate. Creationists can be very clever but they are also 
completely wrong but if the idea is to convert people to their cause they can 
do that with seemingly plausible arguments.
 

 I don;t actually know where anyone would get thorough knowledge about JH's 
theories because I've never seen it [Dearest Sal, This is a perfect example of: 
"If I didn't see It, It doesn't exist.", (that's what you are saying here.) But 
John Hagelin's work does exist, you just haven't seen it. I have a file cabinet 
that holds his work. So It does Exist. Please revise your Theory of Nothing.] 
except for his Consciousness/unified field paper and that just reads like a TM 
intro lecture. If that's all he's got then it will be a very short debate as 
that has been roundly criticised by many people already. But I would like to 
see a trained sceptics opinion of it all. I think that theories about what 
underlies QP are up to what you want to believe...
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MJ, 

 Hagelin is presenting unique ideas to the scientific community which describe 
the basis of the universe, which is consciousness itself.  It's obvious that 
many scientists, like Krauss, Hawking, and Dawkins, do not with Hagelin.
 

 Hagelin may not be as foolish as you think he is.
 

 I think the word you missed out is "agree". String theory is probably outside 
Dawkins field of expertise but he will snort with derision at anything that 
smells of god or mysticism. And Hawking is no fan of spiritual theories of 
creation.
 

 I wouldn't say Hagelin is an idiot but I think he's foolish to speculate so 
wildly in public. I know a physicist who think he's certifiable and would love 
to get him in a chat room to discuss some of his ideas. I bet he's got some 
smart answers though. Would be a fascinating discussion because no one has 
really dismantled the TMO cosmology as expertly as it needs, Victor Stenger's 
book took ideas like that generally, there wasn't the specialised language that 
the TMO uses so you might even thing it wasn't relevant to us. Vic and Hagelin 
would have been a good debate. Bit late now...
 

 As with all new theories, the proponent has to show why the old one is wrong 
or where it can't explain something newly discovered. Basically, what is this 
unified field theory of consciousness for? What does it add to our description 
of the universe that is lacking in current models. It seems to me like its 
tacked onto valid ideas without explaining why they aren't as good without it. 
Are we really stuck without it? 
 

 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Its easy to see how his former colleagues are embarrassed for him when they 
see him spouting this pie in the sky trash.
 

 If more people took to heart the writings of Victor Stenger instead of the 
nonsensical blabber of Hagelin, we might actually be living in something 
approaching an ideal society. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:20 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions
 
 
   

 I got as far as 1:15 and after that felt there was no need to continue. 
Physics hasn't explained what the unified field might be or how it might work 
despite a great many people (Einstein included) trying. After that little 
hubris there seemed little point continuing as it's all John Hagelin's 
speculation.

It really would be more interesting if these guys stuck to what was actually 
known rather than stuff that fits in with what they want to be true.
 

 Where's Victor Stenger when we need him? Oh yeah...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And their relationship to the Unified Field.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 2:17 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

 I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two trolls are.  Alex 
doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I can't blame him.  This is 
supposed to be a forum for adults not teenagers.  Salvy is right, the graffiti 
trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they hate the place.

 >
 Wow! Now that's a thought-stopper. Calling someone a "troll" makes assumptions 
about a writer's motives that are impossible to determine. The term troll is 
highly subjective, and some posts will look like trolling to some while seeming 
like meaningful contributions to others. 
 That's for sure, imagine someone actually looking for bawee wight here.
 >

 On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are equitable, 
because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy and who on this 
forum is qualified to make that decision?  I like the idea of posting limits 
for this forum and always did, but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be 
hall monitor myself.  So, to the degree that I check in here, I choose to live 
with the consequences of "forum freedom." 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

 Postinglimits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would have been 
booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little bit.  Most 
other group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested that Richard needs a 
hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't 
reply to them.  Then they'll return to the bridges they live under.

 On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed. Almost 
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat 
room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone 
are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some 
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one 
wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the 
statement this forum is, really.   

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/30/20146:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, 
with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read 
here any more, no discussions of any substance...

 >
 You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments, 
Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the 
comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

 Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
 Author: Richard J. Williams
 Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
 Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

 I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry (turq) on 
vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

2014-08-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 yeah you  would rather Haglein hold forth in front of  a bunch of already 
lulled into soporific insanity TM'ers. What nonsense. The TMO is always 
blathering about how great it is, let Hagelin for at it in a real forum - you 
consider it a waste because you know he will come off looking like a fool. 

 Mr Brilliance,
You talking to me?

 From: danfriedman2002 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wish you would get in touch with your physicist friend and ask him if he 
would contact Johnny H. and challenge him to a debate, moderated by a 
non-aligned third party.

 

 I'm sure he'd love it and I'd love to watch, this guy is Oxbridge trained and 
he just loves a good debate! It didn't take him long to dispense with the idea 
that superposition can be used to explain astrology. Nearly two seconds 
actually, and he explained why it was crap so even I could understand! 
 

 He asked if JH ever took part in webinars so he could have a go, but then was 
concerned that JH would have answers that require serious thought rather than 
instant come-backs so maybe an e-mail exchange would be more suitable because 
you have to really understand someone's ideas to be able to dissect them. JH is 
obviously a smart guy and will have gone over this many times. Or would he? 
Maybe the adoration he gets at the TMO will have blunted his debating skills. I 
left it by saying that if I hear of any web discussion involving JH I'd let him 
know. 
 

 Please let your pal Dr Krauss know that you have now heard that web chatter 
you've been so eagerly awaiting.

The idea of debating this is a non-starter. It's like trying to explain snow 
to...well, someone who never experienced snow.

Why is your crowd so interested in winning debates?

Small egos?

Need a way to impress the ladies?

Win new friends with the exact outlook as yours?

I'd like to know.


From NYC, where we get along without constant need for debates to prove our 
manhood,
Marky

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:16 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MJ, 

 Hagelin is presenting unique ideas to the scientific community which describe 
the basis of the universe, which is consciousness itself.  It's obvious that 
many scientists, like Krauss, Hawking, and Dawkins, do not with Hagelin.
 

 Hagelin may not be as foolish as you think he is.
 

 I think the word you missed out is "agree". String theory is probably outside 
Dawkins field of expertise but he will snort with derision at anything that 
smells of god or mysticism. And Hawking is no fan of spiritual theories of 
creation.
 

 I wouldn't say Hagelin is an idiot but I think he's foolish to speculate so 
wildly in public. I know a physicist who think he's certifiable and would love 
to get him in a chat room to discuss some of his ideas. I bet he's got some 
smart answers though. Would be a fascinating discussion because no one has 
really dismantled the TMO cosmology as expertly as it needs, Victor Stenger's 
book took ideas like that generally, there wasn't the specialised language that 
the TMO uses so you might even thing it wasn't relevant to us. Vic and Hagelin 
would have been a good debate. Bit late now...
 

 As with all new theories, the proponent has to show why the old one is wrong 
or where it can't explain something newly discovered. Basically, what is this 
unified field theory of consciousness for? What does it add to our description 
of the universe that is lacking in current models. It seems to me like its 
tacked onto valid ideas without explaining why they aren't as good without it. 
Are we really stuck without it? 
 

 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Its easy to see how his former colleagues are embarrassed for him when they 
see him spouting this pie in the sky trash.
 

 If more people took to heart the writings of Victor Stenger instead of the 
nonsensical blabber of Hagelin, we might actually be living in something 
approaching an ideal society. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:20 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions
 
 
   

 I got as far as 1:15 and after that felt there was no need to continue. 
Physics hasn't explained what the unified field might be or how it might work 
despite a great many people (Einstein included) trying. After that little 
hubris there seemed little point continuing as it's all John Hagelin's 
speculation.

It really would be more interesting if these guys stuck to what was actually 
known rather than st

Re: [FairfieldLife] I Got My Readership...

This isn't Goldilocks Share.  I think you're just right!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Indeed you do, NYC Dan! Power to the peoples (-:

 


 On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:04 PM, danfriedman2002 
 wrote:
 
 

   ...and they support Share Long and Richard Williams.

Labor Unite!

Reform the bourgeoisie!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's Crap Art

2014-08-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

See photo of horse naturally passaging and see how it holds its head and neck
with no rider, no bit.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Said like a guy who appreciates all kinds of art and is an artist himself.
Always enjoy you Mac.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I guarantee if any art student at MUM put produced some garbage like this, the
university would send them home with a note to their parents saying "get your
son some psychiatric help!"

What a joke the Movement has become.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/arts/design/museum-show-for-david-lynch-who-began-as-a-visual-artist.html

David Lynch, Who Began as a Visual Artist, Gets a Museu...
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/arts/design/museum-show-for-david-lynch-who-began-as-a-visual-artist.html
The filmmaker David Lynch, who was first a painter, has his first United
States retrospective, at the Pennsy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 5:59 PM, dmevans...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Way to sound really smart, Ricky.  What is the take-away from this 
post-away of yours?  I think it might be a throw-away.  I've got to 
dash away now.  Miss me when I'm gone, O.K.?

>
At least I got your attention - that's what you came here for, right?
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

On 8/30/2014 2:11 PM, emilymaenot@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are
equitable, because after all, one person's troll is another's
fantasy and who on this forum is qualified to make that decision?
 I like the idea of posting limits for this forum and always did,
but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be hall monitor
myself.  So, to the degree that I check in here, I choose to live
with the consequences of "forum freedom."

>
The term "troll" is frequently used to discredit an opposing
position in an argument. This can amount to an ad hominem
argument; a purported troll of this nature may actually hold an
insightful but controversial position that is generating
controversy precisely because it has successfully challenged
entrenched opinions.
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls
would have been booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to
moderate just a little bit.  Most other group moderators do
this.  Rick even suggested that Richard needs a hobby.   Best
policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't
reply to them. Then they'll return to the bridges they live under.

On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were
removed. Almost immediately, Richard and Share ushered the
forum into its evolution as a chat room - characterized as
all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone are
the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a
post, put some thought into topics, put some thought into
with who and in what format one wanted to converse.  Limits
that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the statement this
forum is, really.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone
mostly to fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy
twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read here
any more, no discussions of any substance...

>
You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you
post your own comments, Ajax. I thought my replies to
Bill were right on topic, compared to the comments
posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
Author: Richard J. Williams
Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014

http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.
 Is Barry (turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to
FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 5:55 PM, dmevans...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Post-away Ricky, post-away. Don't forget that I said I would suffer 
through your posting obsession without complaint.  By the way, is 
"piehole" one word?  Maybe start using the word "kisser" - lover boy 
that you are.

>
A big "pie hole" is, I think, it's kind of like a big cup-cake-hole. Maybe.
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

On 8/30/2014 12:58 PM, emilymaenot@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Re:  "Most of my messages aren't even aimed at any of the current
posters - they're for my grand-children living in California to
read."

Scary isn't it?  That you would post this much nonsense for your
grandchildren to read.  Maybe give them a call once in a while,
instead, or email them directly, or post pictures on their
Facebook pages.  Has it ever occurred to you to ask yourself what
your impact on your grandchildren could be?

>
What business is it of yours what I do? You're the gal trolling
here. Things were going pretty good around here today and we were
having fun talking before you and Barry came back and butted in
with your big pie holes and tried to bring everyone down. Go figure.
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

On 8/30/2014 8:10 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@...
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:

You sound like an old crank, pissed off that the
neighborhood kids stole your newspaper, again. Maybe Mr.
Wilson, in 'Dennis The Menace'.

>
Ajax is not the only informant on FFL that has trouble
keeping up with the conversation. I've been posting here
since 2002 and I've never had a real dialog with Rick, who is
supposed to be the moderator. On Google Groups I posted
hundreds of on-topic messages trying to strike up a
conversation with anyone interested in discussing the
mechanics of consciousness and Judy ignored me for five years
- until I called John Kerry a liar for fibbing about being in
Cambodia at Christmas in 1968. That's when she first called
me a liar and tried ever since then to get everybody else to
shun me.

It's sometimes difficult to take seriously the hit and run
posters who aren't really serious about starting and keeping
up a dialog. Judy was one of the only respondents that really
took this social media newsgroup seriously. We lost one of
the most interesting respondents when Shemp McGurck left and
the informant Vaj stopped posting. It's been kind of downhill
ever since then. Most of my messages aren't even aimed at any
of the current posters - they're for my grand-children living
in California to read. Go figure.

My very first post to FFL:

Author: Willytex
Subject: A Total Knowledge Base
Date: January 1, 2002
Group: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/724

>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly
to fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain
posts so there is not much to read here any more, no
discussions of any substance. The curiosity quotient of the
FFL denizens is rapidly approaching zero. If you want to
hone your mind here, you might as well pound your head
against a wall. With the disappearance of Judy Stein, the
main burr around which interesting discussions developed is
gone. Barry is one of the few posters here who can write a
coherent post longer than a couple of lines. Also missing in
action is Curtis who provided some of the best reasoned
retorts to various arguments that appeared here. Life goes
on, and dies, dies, dies.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is
Barry (turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I
miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 5:47 PM, dmevans...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Re: "Who let you in here, Denise?"  Well, Richd, you aren't 
the first person to say this and you probably won't be the last.  Some 
of you TM'ers sure are cliquey - what, do you think you're special in 
some way?

>
If we knew who you were and what you are talking about, you might get a 
word in edgewise. But, at least I try to keep up with the conversation 
and read the messages BEFORE I post my comments. Go figure.

>

P.S. I think it was the largess of Amma's spirit.  But, I'll be on my 
way; I've been sloppy today with my emails.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

On 8/30/2014 12:38 PM, dmevans365@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed.
Almost immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its
evolution as a chat room - characterized as all are by a
preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone are the limits telling
the brain to put some thought into a post, put some thought into
topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one
wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in the action.
 Quite the statement this forum is, really.

>
Now that's a thought-stopper!

Who let you in here, Denise? If you don't like to read our posts
nobody is forcing you to stick around. I'll put my messages up
against yours any day. You are supposed to read the messages
BEFORE you post  your comments.

Denise Evans:

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.com&l=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly
to fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain
posts so there is not much to read here any more, no
discussions of any substance...

>
You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post
your own comments, Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were
right on topic, compared to the comments posted by the other
informants. YMMV. Go figure.

Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
Author: Richard J. Williams
Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014

http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is
Barry (turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I
miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 8/30/2014 5:17 PM, waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Glad you are still here.  I too have taken long stretches of time off 
from FFL.  You might enjoy The 100 foot Journey with Helen Mirren. 
Fluff but charming.  Movie attendance in the US has been way way down 
this summer. Much of the best stuff is on TV.  Here in the US a really 
big issue these days in medical marijuana, its uses, which states 
allow it and in what manner. Another tidbit, financial planners are 
now routinely telling people to expect to have to make their savings 
last til age 95. Conservative planners use age 100, especially for 
younger people. A new and longer life span, and the need to save more 
and retire later.  Are you eligible for social support living in the 
Netherlands in addition to social security from the US?



>
So, long you didn't realize to click on the /Show Message History/ 
button in Neo. Welcome back, wayback!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 4:37 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
salyavin, could you guys please make up your ding dang minds?! Either 
we're too dense and weighing down one end of the boat, or we're too 
fluffy. We can't be both! Check your physics books if you don't 
believe me.

>
Maybe it's just too much strain on their brains to actually have a 
conversation. It sounds so complicated! Go figure.

>
On Saturday, August 30, 2014 3:17 PM, salyavin808 
 wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Share,

It's a big boat.  There's plenty of room for everyone.

I'm just worried that the sudden increase of density at one end will 
upend it.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I heard an analogy once that makes sense to me wrt FFL: that we're all 
in this lifeboat together. If one person changes position or leaves 
the boat, or if someone new arrives, everybody has to shift a bit to 
help maintain the balance of the boat. Ahoy mateys!

Re: [FairfieldLife] I Got My Readership...

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 4:29 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

Indeed you do, NYC Dan! Power to the peoples (-:

>
At least we know who our friends are, Share!
>

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:04 PM, danfriedman2002 
 wrote:

...and they support Share Long and Richard Williams.

Labor Unite!

Reform the bourgeoisie!

Re: [FairfieldLife] I Got My Readership...

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 8/30/2014 4:04 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:


...and they support Share Long and Richard Williams.

Labor Unite!

Reform the bourgeoisie!


>
You can pretty much tell who your friends are around here, Dan - they 
are the ones that post replies and comments to you directly, as opposed 
to the ones that talk about you behind your back, which you can safely 
ignore anyway.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 2:41 PM, dmevans...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Well, we'd have to put it to a vote and thinking of the joy and 
pleasure Share derives from those who shall not be labeled or named, I 
personally am willing to suck it up and just scroll past the 200+ 
posts a week from the two currently in the running.  I'm trying to 
make amends to Share and her happiness is important to me.  :)

>
This would make sense if we knew who you were. Are you using an alias or 
what?

>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two trolls 
are.  Alex doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I can't blame 
him.  This is supposed to be a forum for adults not teenagers.  Salvy 
is right, the graffiti trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they 
hate the place.

On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are
equitable, because after all, one person's troll is another's
fantasy and who on this forum is qualified to make that decision?
 I like the idea of posting limits for this forum and always did,
but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be hall monitor
myself.  So, to the degree that I check in here, I choose to live
with the consequences of "forum freedom."

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls
would have been booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to
moderate just a little bit.  Most other group moderators do
this.  Rick even suggested that Richard needs a hobby.   Best
policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't
reply to them. Then they'll return to the bridges they live under.

On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were
removed. Almost immediately, Richard and Share ushered the
forum into its evolution as a chat room - characterized as
all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone are
the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a
post, put some thought into topics, put some thought into
with who and in what format one wanted to converse.  Limits
that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the statement this
forum is, really.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone
mostly to fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy
twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read here
any more, no discussions of any substance...

>
You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you
post your own comments, Ajax. I thought my replies to
Bill were right on topic, compared to the comments
posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
Author: Richard J. Williams
Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014

http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.
 Is Barry (turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to
FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 2:25 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
I heard an analogy once that makes sense to me wrt FFL: that we're all 
in this lifeboat together. If one person changes position or leaves 
the boat, or if someone new arrives, everybody has to shift a bit to 
help maintain the balance of the boat. Ahoy mateys!

>
God forbid that Share, who lives in Fairfield and meditates in the dome 
almost every day, should dare to post to a forum dedicated to a 
mediating life life lived in Fairfield!!!

Related Structures

A. Trolls  - users who actively provoke conflict.

B. Troll-hunters  - They behave according to a principle of "second
strike". They do not initiate conflict, but escalate it once it begins.

C. Troll-baiters - They use other trolls as an excuse for their own
misbehavior, and in many cases, typecast a user as a "troll" regardless
of his or her intent.

D. Ignorers: They seek to ignore the conflict, continuing with the topic
at-hand. They usually express a nonchalant disdain for the troll, but
does not seek actively to insult him or her.
>

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:17 PM, "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:

I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two trolls 
are. Alex doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I can't blame 
him. This is supposed to be a forum for adults not teenagers.  Salvy 
is right, the graffiti trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they 
hate the place.

On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are 
equitable, because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy 
and who on this forum is qualified to make that decision?  I like the 
idea of posting limits for this forum and always did, but, of course, 
certainly wouldn't want to be hall monitor myself.  So, to the degree 
that I check in here, I choose to live with the consequences of 
"forum freedom."

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
,  
 wrote :

Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would 
have been booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just 
a little bit.  Most other group moderators do this.  Rick even 
suggested that Richard needs a hobby.   Best policy currently is to 
ignore the trolls and especially don't reply to them.  Then they'll 
return to the bridges they live under.

On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed.
Almost immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its
evolution as a chat room - characterized as all are by a
preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone are the limits
telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what
format one wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in
the action.  Quite the statement this forum is, really.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly
to fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain
posts so there is not much to read here any more, no
discussions of any substance...

>
You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post
your own comments, Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were
right on topic, compared to the comments posted by the other
informants. YMMV. Go figure.

Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
Author: Richard J. Williams
Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014

http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is
Barry (turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I
miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread dmevans...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Way to sound really smart, Ricky.  What is the take-away from this post-away of 
yours?  I think it might be a throw-away.  I've got to dash away now.  Miss me 
when I'm gone, O.K.?  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 2:11 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are equitable, 
because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy and who on this 
forum is qualified to make that decision?  I like the idea of posting limits 
for this forum and always did, but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be 
hall monitor myself.  So, to the degree that I check in here, I choose to live 
with the consequences of "forum freedom." 

 >
 The term "troll" is frequently used to discredit an opposing position in an 
argument. This can amount to an ad hominem argument; a purported troll of this 
nature may actually hold an insightful but controversial position that is 
generating controversy precisely because it has successfully challenged 
entrenched opinions.
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

 Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would have been 
booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little bit.  Most 
other group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested that Richard needs a 
hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't 
reply to them.  Then they'll return to the bridges they live under.

 On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed. Almost 
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat 
room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone 
are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some 
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one 
wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the 
statement this forum is, really.   

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, 
with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read 
here any more, no discussions of any substance...

 >
 You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments, 
Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the 
comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

 Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
 Author: Richard J. Williams
 Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
 Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

 I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry (turq) on 
vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 2:17 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:

I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two trolls 
are.  Alex doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I can't blame 
him. This is supposed to be a forum for adults not teenagers. Salvy is 
right, the graffiti trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they 
hate the place.

>
Wow! Now that's a thought-stopper. Calling someone a "troll" makes 
assumptions about a writer's motives that are impossible to determine. 
The term troll is highly subjective, and some posts will look like 
trolling to some while seeming like meaningful contributions to others.

>

On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are 
equitable, because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy 
and who on this forum is qualified to make that decision?  I like the 
idea of posting limits for this forum and always did, but, of course, 
certainly wouldn't want to be hall monitor myself.  So, to the degree 
that I check in here, I choose to live with the consequences of 
"forum freedom."

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would 
have been booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just 
a little bit.  Most other group moderators do this.  Rick even 
suggested that Richard needs a hobby.   Best policy currently is to 
ignore the trolls and especially don't reply to them.  Then they'll 
return to the bridges they live under.

On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed.
Almost immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its
evolution as a chat room - characterized as all are by a
preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone are the limits
telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what
format one wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in
the action.  Quite the statement this forum is, really.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly
to fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain
posts so there is not much to read here any more, no
discussions of any substance...

>
You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post
your own comments, Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were
right on topic, compared to the comments posted by the other
informants. YMMV. Go figure.

Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
Author: Richard J. Williams
Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014

http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is
Barry (turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I
miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread dmevans...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Post-away Ricky, post-away. Don't forget that I said I would suffer through 
your posting obsession without complaint.  By the way, is "piehole" one word?  
Maybe start using the word "kisser" - lover boy that you are.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 12:58 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Re:  "Most of my messages aren't even aimed at any of the current posters - 
they're for my grand-children living in California to read."

 Scary isn't it?  That you would post this much nonsense for your grandchildren 
to read.  Maybe give them a call once in a while, instead, or email them 
directly, or post pictures on their Facebook pages.  Has it ever occurred to 
you to ask yourself what your impact on your grandchildren could be?  

 >
 What business is it of yours what I do? You're the gal trolling here. Things 
were going pretty good around here today and we were having fun talking before 
you and Barry came back and butted in with your big pie holes and tried to 
bring everyone down. Go figure.
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 8:10 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   You sound like an old crank, pissed off that the neighborhood kids stole 
your newspaper, again. Maybe Mr. Wilson, in 'Dennis The Menace'.

 >
 Ajax is not the only informant on FFL that has trouble keeping up with the 
conversation. I've been posting here since 2002 and I've never had a real 
dialog with Rick, who is supposed to be the moderator. On Google Groups I 
posted hundreds of on-topic messages trying to strike up a conversation with 
anyone interested in discussing the mechanics of consciousness and Judy ignored 
me for five years - until I called John Kerry a liar for fibbing about being in 
Cambodia at Christmas in 1968. That's when she first called me a liar and tried 
ever since then to get everybody else to shun me. 

 It's sometimes difficult to take seriously the hit and run posters who aren't 
really serious about starting and keeping up a dialog. Judy was one of the only 
respondents that really took this social media newsgroup seriously. We lost one 
of the most interesting respondents when Shemp McGurck left and the informant 
Vaj stopped posting. It's been kind of downhill ever since then. Most of my 
messages aren't even aimed at any of the current posters - they're for my 
grand-children living in California to read. Go figure.

 My very first post to FFL:
 Author: Willytex
Subject: A Total Knowledge Base
Date: January 1, 2002
Group: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/724 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/724

>

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:anartaxius@... wrote :

 He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, 
with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read 
here any more, no discussions of any substance. The curiosity quotient of the 
FFL denizens is rapidly approaching zero. If you want to hone your mind here, 
you might as well pound your head against a wall. With the disappearance of 
Judy Stein, the main burr around which interesting discussions developed is 
gone. Barry is one of the few posters here who can write a coherent post longer 
than a couple of lines. Also missing in action is Curtis who provided some of 
the best reasoned retorts to various arguments that appeared here. Life goes 
on, and dies, dies, dies.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

 I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry (turq) on 
vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 2:11 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are equitable, 
because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy and who on 
this forum is qualified to make that decision?  I like the idea of 
posting limits for this forum and always did, but, of course, 
certainly wouldn't want to be hall monitor myself.  So, to the degree 
that I check in here, I choose to live with the consequences of "forum 
freedom."

>
The term "troll" is frequently used to discredit an opposing position in 
an argument. This can amount to an ad hominem argument; a purported 
troll of this nature may actually hold an insightful but controversial 
position that is generating controversy precisely because it has 
successfully challenged entrenched opinions.

>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would 
have been booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just a 
little bit.  Most other group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested 
that Richard needs a hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the 
trolls and especially don't reply to them.  Then they'll return to the 
bridges they live under.

On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed.
Almost immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its
evolution as a chat room - characterized as all are by a
preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone are the limits telling
the brain to put some thought into a post, put some thought into
topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one
wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in the action.
 Quite the statement this forum is, really.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly
to fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain
posts so there is not much to read here any more, no
discussions of any substance...

>
You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post
your own comments, Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were
right on topic, compared to the comments posted by the other
informants. YMMV. Go figure.

Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
Author: Richard J. Williams
Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014

http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is
Barry (turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I
miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]


On 08/30/2014 03:17 PM, waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Glad you are still here.  I too have taken long stretches of time off 
from FFL.  You might enjoy The 100 foot Journey with Helen Mirren. 
Fluff but charming.  Movie attendance in the US has been way way down 
this summer. Much of the best stuff is on TV.  Here in the US a really 
big issue these days in medical marijuana, its uses, which states 
allow it and in what manner. Another tidbit, financial planners are 
now routinely telling people to expect to have to make their savings 
last til age 95. Conservative planners use age 100, especially for 
younger people. A new and longer life span, and the need to save more 
and retire later.




So how many millions or billions (given future inflation) do they have 
to save up?  You need several million dollars to comfortably retire 
these days.  I think some of the financial planners may be living on 
another planet.  They are certainly not very realistic about how much 
income one can make and save.  Maybe they're smoking some of that 
medical marijuana? ;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 1:48 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would 
have been booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just a 
little bit.  Most other group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested 
that Richard needs a hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the 
trolls and especially don't reply to them.  Then they'll return to the 
bridges they live under.

>
Note: The term /'Internet Troll'/ is frequently abused to slander 
opponents in heated debates and is frequently misapplied by those who 
are ignorant of Internet etiquette.

>

On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed. Almost 
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution 
as a chat room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of 
meaningless drivel.  Gone are the limits telling the brain to put 
some thought into a post, put some thought into topics, put some 
thought into with who and in what format one wanted to converse. 
 Limits that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the statement this 
forum is, really.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to
fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so
there is not much to read here any more, no discussions of any
substance...

>
You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your
own comments, Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on
topic, compared to the comments posted by the other informants.
YMMV. Go figure.

Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
Author: Richard J. Williams
Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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 wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry
(turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I'm with you guys. Sal, fyi, I like my sandwiches non-dual; just one slice of 
bread per filling, please - referred to spiritually, as, "Open Face". That way, 
there is no inside, or outside, to the sandwich, and if constructed with peanut 
butter, the experience is 'Pure Oneneth'.  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Share, 

 It's a big boat.  There's plenty of room for everyone.

 I'm just worried that the sudden increase of density at one end will upend it.

 I've got my life jacket and have an extra life boat with room for three others.

 I'll make sandwiches, we'll navigate by the stars, maybe we'll find a more 
agreeable shore by sunrise... 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I heard an analogy once that makes sense to me wrt FFL: that we're all in this 
lifeboat together. If one person changes position or leaves the boat, or if 
someone new arrives, everybody has to shift a bit to help maintain the balance 
of the boat. Ahoy mateys!

 On Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:17 PM, "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:

 I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two trolls are.  Alex 
doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I can't blame him.  This is 
supposed to be a forum for adults not teenagers.  Salvy is right, the graffiti 
trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they hate the place.

 On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are equitable, 
because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy and who on this 
forum is qualified to make that decision?  I like the idea of posting limits 
for this forum and always did, but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be 
hall monitor myself.  So, to the degree that I check in here, I choose to live 
with the consequences of "forum freedom." 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

 Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would have been 
booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little bit.  Most 
other group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested that Richard needs a 
hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't 
reply to them.  Then they'll return to the bridges they live under.

 On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed. Almost 
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat 
room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone 
are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some 
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one 
wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the 
statement this forum is, really.   

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, 
with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read 
here any more, no discussions of any substance...

 >
 You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments, 
Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the 
comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

 Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
 Author: Richard J. Williams
 Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
 Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
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 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

 I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry (turq) on 
vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread dmevans...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

P.S. I think it was the largess of Amma's spirit. But, I'll be on my way;
I've been sloppy today with my emails.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

On 8/30/2014 12:38 PM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:

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Now that's a thought-stopper!

Denise Evans:

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.com&l=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.com&l=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:punditster@... wrote :

On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while. Is Barry (turq) on
vacation or did he say goodbye to FFL? I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 12:58 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Re:  "Most of my messages aren't even aimed at any of the current 
posters - they're for my grand-children living in California to read."

Scary isn't it?  That you would post this much nonsense for your 
grandchildren to read.  Maybe give them a call once in a while, 
instead, or email them directly, or post pictures on their Facebook 
pages.  Has it ever occurred to you to ask yourself what your impact 
on your grandchildren could be?

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What business is it of yours what I do? You're the gal trolling here. 
Things were going pretty good around here today and we were having fun 
talking before you and Barry came back and butted in with your big pie 
holes and tried to bring everyone down. Go figure.

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

On 8/30/2014 8:10 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:

You sound like an old crank, pissed off that the neighborhood
kids stole your newspaper, again. Maybe Mr. Wilson, in 'Dennis
The Menace'.

>
Ajax is not the only informant on FFL that has trouble keeping up
with the conversation. I've been posting here since 2002 and I've
never had a real dialog with Rick, who is supposed to be the
moderator. On Google Groups I posted hundreds of on-topic messages
trying to strike up a conversation with anyone interested in
discussing the mechanics of consciousness and Judy ignored me for
five years - until I called John Kerry a liar for fibbing about
being in Cambodia at Christmas in 1968. That's when she first
called me a liar and tried ever since then to get everybody else
to shun me.

It's sometimes difficult to take seriously the hit and run posters
who aren't really serious about starting and keeping up a dialog.
Judy was one of the only respondents that really took this social
media newsgroup seriously. We lost one of the most interesting
respondents when Shemp McGurck left and the informant Vaj stopped
posting. It's been kind of downhill ever since then. Most of my
messages aren't even aimed at any of the current posters - they're
for my grand-children living in California to read. Go figure.

My very first post to FFL:

Author: Willytex
Subject: A Total Knowledge Base
Date: January 1, 2002
Group: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/724

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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 wrote :

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to
fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so
there is not much to read here any more, no discussions of any
substance. The curiosity quotient of the FFL denizens is rapidly
approaching zero. If you want to hone your mind here, you might
as well pound your head against a wall. With the disappearance of
Judy Stein, the main burr around which interesting discussions
developed is gone. Barry is one of the few posters here who can
write a coherent post longer than a couple of lines. Also missing
in action is Curtis who provided some of the best reasoned
retorts to various arguments that appeared here. Life goes on,
and dies, dies, dies.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry
(turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 12:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
*From:* "dmevans...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed.

Wham.

Almost immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its 
evolution as a chat room - characterized as all are by a preponderence 
of meaningless drivel.

Bam.

Gone are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, 
put some thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in 
what format one wanted to converse.

Thank ya,

Limits that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the statement this 
forum is, really.

Ma'am.

>
So,it's all about Richard and Share. Go figure.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Salyavin and Rick, 

 Now that you thought of  a debate.  I would recommend that Rick set up a 
debate on BATGAP between Hagelin and Krauss on the issue of, "Is the Universe 
Based on Consciousness?" 
 

 This could be a potential viral hit on YouTube.
 

 I'd give it a "like" for sure. The trouble with fringe whacko's is that they 
don't get the chance to debate with leaders in their fields. Atheists do not 
create with creationists because it gives any passing observer the idea that 
creationism is a valid point of view. Sounds arrogant but you have to draw the 
line somewhere and besides, these things take time to research, anyone willing 
to take on JH would have to put the legwork in to make sure they had enough 
against it to win a debate. Creationists can be very clever but they are also 
completely wrong but if the idea is to convert people to their cause they can 
do that with seemingly plausible arguments.
 

 I don;t actually know where anyone would get thorough knowledge about JH's 
theories because I've never seen it, except for his Consciousness/unified field 
paper and that just reads like a TM intro lecture. If that's all he's got then 
it will be a very short debate as that has been roundly criticised by many 
people already. But I would like to see a trained sceptics opinion of it all. I 
think that theories about what underlies QP are up to what you want to 
believe...
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MJ, 

 Hagelin is presenting unique ideas to the scientific community which describe 
the basis of the universe, which is consciousness itself.  It's obvious that 
many scientists, like Krauss, Hawking, and Dawkins, do not with Hagelin.
 

 Hagelin may not be as foolish as you think he is.
 

 I think the word you missed out is "agree". String theory is probably outside 
Dawkins field of expertise but he will snort with derision at anything that 
smells of god or mysticism. And Hawking is no fan of spiritual theories of 
creation.
 

 I wouldn't say Hagelin is an idiot but I think he's foolish to speculate so 
wildly in public. I know a physicist who think he's certifiable and would love 
to get him in a chat room to discuss some of his ideas. I bet he's got some 
smart answers though. Would be a fascinating discussion because no one has 
really dismantled the TMO cosmology as expertly as it needs, Victor Stenger's 
book took ideas like that generally, there wasn't the specialised language that 
the TMO uses so you might even thing it wasn't relevant to us. Vic and Hagelin 
would have been a good debate. Bit late now...
 

 As with all new theories, the proponent has to show why the old one is wrong 
or where it can't explain something newly discovered. Basically, what is this 
unified field theory of consciousness for? What does it add to our description 
of the universe that is lacking in current models. It seems to me like its 
tacked onto valid ideas without explaining why they aren't as good without it. 
Are we really stuck without it? 
 

 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Its easy to see how his former colleagues are embarrassed for him when they 
see him spouting this pie in the sky trash.
 

 If more people took to heart the writings of Victor Stenger instead of the 
nonsensical blabber of Hagelin, we might actually be living in something 
approaching an ideal society. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:20 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions
 
 
   

 I got as far as 1:15 and after that felt there was no need to continue. 
Physics hasn't explained what the unified field might be or how it might work 
despite a great many people (Einstein included) trying. After that little 
hubris there seemed little point continuing as it's all John Hagelin's 
speculation.

It really would be more interesting if these guys stuck to what was actually 
known rather than stuff that fits in with what they want to be true.
 

 Where's Victor Stenger when we need him? Oh yeah...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And their relationship to the Unified Field.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

On 8/30/2014 12:38 PM, dmevans...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed. Almost 
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as 
a chat room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of 
meaningless drivel.  Gone are the limits telling the brain to put some 
thought into a post, put some thought into topics, put some thought 
into with who and in what format one wanted to converse.  Limits that 
forced a pause in the action.  Quite the statement this forum is, really.

>
Now that's a thought-stopper!

Who let you in here, Denise? If you don't like to read our posts nobody 
is forcing you to stick around. I'll put my messages up against yours 
any day. You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you post  your 
comments.

Denise Evans:
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmevans365%40yahoo.com&l=fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to
fluff lately, with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so
there is not much to read here any more, no discussions of any
substance...

>
You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your
own comments, Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on
topic, compared to the comments posted by the other informants.
YMMV. Go figure.

Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
Author: Richard J. Williams
Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry
(turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's Crap Art

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 11:53 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Oh I agree it would be a good thing - I know a female artist who
graduated from MIU -

>
Still waiting for you to upload some examples of your art projects.
>
some of her art is well uhh, let's say "stressful" - her stepfather
who is a TM teacher said she would be better off (as would the world)
if she burned them.

If MUM would put some of that kind of stuff along with the tiptoe
through the tulips kinds of art we have all come to expect from the
TMO then it would be a momentous occasion indeed.

I have spoken with artists who went to MIU/MUM who all complained
about being censored by their instructors if the art pieces they were
producing were not sattvic enough or were too stressful.

Lynch's twisted art (both graphic and film art) is part of the
ludicrous hypocrisy of the TMO. As already stated, they will NEVER
have an open art show there or at ANY TM facility. Nor will they ever
show Eraserhead, Blue Velvet or Twin Peaks.

*From:* "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2014 11:54 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's Crap Art

I think it would be great if all the well known artists, who do TM,
had an exhibition at MUM. Why not? If it ever happens, I won't likely
be putting up the posters, in any case.

Is it even forbidden, in your eyes, a sign of cult enslavement, to
suggest such a thing, from thousands of miles away, on a Yahoo forum?
Please say no.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

If you think that kind of stressful men puking art would EVER be
displayed at MUM, you REALLY need a head shrinker. It will NEVER happen.

*From:* "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2014 9:20 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's Crap Art

Thanks. The exhibit could travel next to Fairfield, and be displayed
at MUM - Provocative stuff. His work is well done, and he puts a lot
of skill and effort into it. I guess the art world needs those who
focus on darker themes as Lynch often does. A little goes a long way,
though.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I guarantee if any art student at MUM put produced some garbage like
this, the university would send them home with a note to their parents
saying "get your son some psychiatric help!"

What a joke the Movement has become.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/arts/design/museum-show-for-david-lynch-who-began-as-a-visual-artist.html

image

David Lynch, Who Began as a Visual Artist, Gets a Museu...

The filmmaker David Lynch, who was first a painter, has his first
United States retrospective, at the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts.

View on www.nytimes.com

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We seem to have a couple of graffiti trolls who are trying to kill 
this board with their noise.  I still read newsgroups and on one every 
time school is out a rise in such behavior exudes sending the regular 
participants to add the current malcontents email addresses to their 
killfile.

>
On 8/30/2014 11:28 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote:
>

Come'n don't you like anyone? Try getting along with others; you know 
: Go Along to Get Along.

As for your Fkn attitude, this is Labor Day, a Day of Solidarity, so I 
will not be devisive in my remarks. Unlike the Hate You Promote (see 
Bhairitu 

Posts 393575 and 394499)

You disgust me man, but I'm not going to spoil the Holiday and leet 
you know what I really think.

>
Well, I guess we can see why wayback71 hasn't been reading FFL lately. 
Just speaking for myself, it has been pretty nice around here without 
Barry and Judy and their incessant ankle-biting. The two Barrys both 
have a negative attitudes - they sound JELLOS when we are having a good 
time. Go figure.

>

From the Melting Pot of NYC,
Mr Dan to you, punkass

>

On 08/29/2014 06:50 PM, wayback71@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry 
(turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's Crap Art

2014-08-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Said like a guy who appreciates all kinds of art and is an artist himself.
Always enjoy you Mac.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I guarantee if any art student at MUM put produced some garbage like this, the
university would send them home with a note to their parents saying "get your
son some psychiatric help!"

What a joke the Movement has become.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/arts/design/museum-show-for-david-lynch-who-began-as-a-visual-artist.html

View on www.nytimes.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/arts/design/museum-show-for-david-lynch-who-began-as-a-visual-artist.html
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[FairfieldLife] Dividing An Estate

2014-08-30 Thread msilver1...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

An estate has $100. Beneficiary A borrows $40. Beneficiary borrows 
$20. The remaining estate of $40 is divided at the time of inheritance, 
each beneficiary receives $20. Beneficiary A has $60 and beneficiary B 
has $40. The estate is supposed to be divided evenly and since the 
beneficiaries have not repaid the estate, they decide to distribute the funds 
between themselves to make things even.

Question: Would it be correct to follow this formula?

40 + 60 
  - 40 = 10
2

10 is then given to B from A so both have 50.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We seem to have a couple of graffiti trolls who are trying to kill 
this board with their noise.

>
On 8/30/2014 11:27 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
>

I think it's a deliberate ploy to bore everyone shitless so one of the 
only places you can enjoy a free talk about the TMO gets abandoned.

>
So, when are you going to start talking about TM?
>

Or maybe they really are that gormless? Go figure.

 I still read newsgroups and on one every time school is out a rise in 
such behavior exudes sending the regular participants to add the 
current malcontents email addresses to their killfile.

On 08/29/2014 06:50 PM, wayback71@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry 
(turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 11:16 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

We seem to have a couple of graffiti trolls who are trying to kill 
this board with their noise.  I still read newsgroups and on one every 
time school is out a rise in such behavior exudes sending the regular 
participants to add the current malcontents email addresses to their 
killfile.

>
So, we know what the other Barry has been doing. More TV. Go figure.
>

On 08/29/2014 06:50 PM, waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry 
(turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Salyavin, could you guys please make up your ding dang minds?! Either we're 
too dense and weighing down one end of the boat, or we're too fluffy. We can't 
be both!

 You mean you aren't a dualist? 

  Check your physics books if you don't believe me. 

 OK, it says that you have a guilty conscience because we saved you a seat in 
the lifeboat. But if you'd rather stay around here

 On Saturday, August 30, 2014 3:17 PM, salyavin808  
wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Share, 

 It's a big boat.  There's plenty of room for everyone.

 I'm just worried that the sudden increase of density at one end will upend it.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I heard an analogy once that makes sense to me wrt FFL: that we're all in this 
lifeboat together. If one person changes position or leaves the boat, or if 
someone new arrives, everybody has to shift a bit to help maintain the balance 
of the boat. Ahoy mateys!

 On Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:17 PM, "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:

 I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two trolls are.  Alex 
doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I can't blame him.  This is 
supposed to be a forum for adults not teenagers.  Salvy is right, the graffiti 
trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they hate the place.

 On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are equitable, 
because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy and who on this 
forum is qualified to make that decision?  I like the idea of posting limits 
for this forum and always did, but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be 
hall monitor myself.  So, to the degree that I check in here, I choose to live 
with the consequences of "forum freedom." 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

 Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would have been 
booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little bit.  Most 
other group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested that Richard needs a 
hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't 
reply to them.  Then they'll return to the bridges they live under.

 On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed. Almost 
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat 
room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone 
are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some 
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one 
wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the 
statement this forum is, really.   

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, 
with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read 
here any more, no discussions of any substance...

 >
 You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments, 
Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the 
comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

 Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
 Author: Richard J. Williams
 Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
 Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

 I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry (turq) on 
vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Glad you are still here.  I too have taken long stretches of time off from FFL. 
 You might enjoy The 100 foot Journey with Helen Mirren. Fluff but charming.  
Movie attendance in the US has been way way down this summer. Much of the best 
stuff is on TV.  Here in the US a really big issue these days in medical 
marijuana, its uses, which states allow it and in what manner. Another tidbit, 
financial planners are now routinely telling people to expect to have to make 
their savings last til age 95. Conservative planners use age 100, especially 
for younger people. A new and longer life span, and the need to save more and 
retire later.  Are you eligible for social support living in the Netherlands in 
addition to social security from the US?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

yeah you  would rather Haglein hold forth in front of  a bunch of already 
lulled into soporific insanity TM'ers. What nonsense. The TMO is always 
blathering about how great it is, let Hagelin for at it in a real forum - you 
consider it a waste because you know he will come off looking like a fool. 

 From: danfriedman2002 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I wish you would get in touch with your physicist friend and ask him if he 
would contact Johnny H. and challenge him to a debate, moderated by a 
non-aligned third party.

I'm sure he'd love it and I'd love to watch, this guy is Oxbridge trained and 
he just loves a good debate! It didn't take him long to dispense with the idea 
that superposition can be used to explain astrology. Nearly two seconds 
actually, and he explained why it was crap so even I could understand! 

He asked if JH ever took part in webinars so he could have a go, but then was 
concerned that JH would have answers that require serious thought rather than 
instant come-backs so maybe an e-mail exchange would be more suitable because 
you have to really understand someone's ideas to be able to dissect them. JH is 
obviously a smart guy and will have gone over this many times. Or would he? 
Maybe the adoration he gets at the TMO will have blunted his debating skills. I 
left it by saying that if I hear of any web discussion involving JH I'd let him 
know. 

Please let your pal Dr Krauss know that you have now heard that web chatter 
you've been so eagerly awaiting.

The idea of debating this is a non-starter. It's like trying to explain snow 
to...well, someone who never experienced snow.

Why is your crowd so interested in winning debates?

Small egos?

Need a way to impress the ladies?

Win new friends with the exact outlook as yours?

I'd like to know.

>From NYC, where we get along without constant need for debates to prove our 
>manhood,
Marky

 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:16 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin
Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

MJ,

Hagelin is presenting unique ideas to the scientific community which describe 
the basis of the universe, which is consciousness itself.  It's obvious that 
many scientists, like Krauss, Hawking, and Dawkins, do not with Hagelin.

Hagelin may not be as foolish as you think he is.

I think the word you missed out is "agree". String theory is probably outside 
Dawkins field of expertise but he will snort with derision at anything that 
smells of god or mysticism. And Hawking is no fan of spiritual theories of
creation.

I wouldn't say Hagelin is an idiot but I think he's foolish to speculate so 
wildly in public. I know a physicist who think he's certifiable and would love 
to get him in a chat room to discuss some of his ideas. I bet he's got some 
smart answers though. Would be a fascinating discussion because no one has 
really dismantled the TMO cosmology as expertly as it needs, Victor Stenger's 
book took ideas like that generally, there wasn't the specialised language that 
the TMO uses so you might even thing it wasn't relevant to us. Vic and Hagelin 
would have been a good debate. Bit late now...

As with all new theories, the proponent has to show why the old one is wrong or 
where it can't explain
something newly discovered. Basically, what is this unified field theory of 
consciousness for? What does it add to our description of the universe that is 
lacking in current models. It seems to me like its tacked onto valid ideas 
without explaining why they aren't as good without it. Are we really stuck 
without it? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Its easy to see how his former colleagues are embarrassed for him when they see 
him spouting this pie in the sky trash.

If more people took to heart the writings of Victor Stenger instead of the 
nonsensical blabber of Hagelin, we might actually be living in something 
approaching an ideal society. 

 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:20 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

I got as far as 1:15 and after that felt there was no need to continue. Physics 
hasn't explained what the unified field might be or how it might work despite a 
great many people (Einstein included) trying. After that little hubris there 
seemed little point continuing as it's all John Hagelin's speculation.

It really would be
more interesting if these guys stuck to what was actually known rather than 
stuff that fits in with what they wa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 11:02 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

FFL might make for a good episode of "Black Mirror", a UK TV anthology 
which takes on the dark side of tech.  I particularly liked the 2nd 
episode of season one.  Why it takes so long for some of these shows 
to make it to the US is beyond me. Comparatively though, US TV looks 
pretty bad.  "Black Mirror" did have a run on DirectTV last year in 
the US.

Speaking of which I just finished off all 10 episodes of Robert 
Rodriguez's "From Dusk Till Dawn".  I was a little disappointed but 
not surprised that the arc sort of fell a bit flat after episode six.  
Rodriguez is used to making movie and a TV series is a different 
animal.  It was like he had about six or seven ideas for episodes but 
perhaps someone demanded ten.  This is another reason why I like the 
foreign six episode series.  Two of which I finished off this week 
including Australia's "Secrets and Lies" and the UK's "Happy Valley".  
Both were on Netflix as was "From Dusk Till Dawn."

As for FFL, well it is the dog days of summer and things may perk up a 
bit more next week.  Then we have the graffiti trolls who behave like 
10 year olds.  Good reason to banish them to the killfile.

>
Not exactly sure who you target audience is. You sound really scared of 
the graffiti trolls so why are you feeding them? Plus you sound like you 
have a cob stuck up your ass. Go figure.

>

On 08/30/2014 04:51 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff 
lately, with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is 
not much to read here any more, no discussions of any substance. The 
curiosity quotient of the FFL denizens is rapidly approaching zero. 
If you want to hone your mind here, you might as well pound your head 
against a wall. With the disappearance of Judy Stein, the main burr 
around which interesting discussions developed is gone. Barry is one 
of the few posters here who can write a coherent post longer than a 
couple of lines. Also missing in action is Curtis who provided some 
of the best reasoned retorts to various arguments that appeared here. 
Life goes on, and dies, dies, dies.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry 
(turq) on vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

2014-08-30 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I would love to see the two of them go at it on stage, with an impartial 
moderator in front of an audience of physicists. That would be the proper 
forum. Then Johnnie can prove himself to all his peers and the TMO will have 
the chance to reign supreme.

 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I wish you would get in touch with your physicist friend and ask him if he 
would contact Johnny H. and challenge him to a debate, moderated by a 
non-aligned third party.

I'm sure he'd love it and I'd love to watch, this guy is Oxbridge trained and 
he just loves a good debate! It didn't take him long to dispense with the idea 
that superposition can be used to explain astrology. Nearly two seconds 
actually, and he explained why it was crap so even I could understand! 

He asked if JH ever took part in webinars so he could have a go, but then was 
concerned that JH would have answers that require serious thought rather than 
instant come-backs so maybe an e-mail exchange would be more suitable because 
you have to really understand someone's ideas to be able to dissect them. JH is 
obviously a smart guy and will have gone over this many times. Or would he? 
Maybe the adoration he gets at the TMO will have blunted his debating skills. I 
left it by saying that if I hear of any web discussion involving JH I'd let him 
know. 

 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:16 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin
Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

MJ,

Hagelin is presenting unique ideas to the scientific community which describe 
the basis of the universe, which is consciousness itself.  It's obvious that 
many scientists, like Krauss, Hawking, and Dawkins, do not with Hagelin.

Hagelin may not be as foolish as you think he is.

I think the word you missed out is "agree". String theory is probably outside 
Dawkins field of expertise but he will snort with derision at anything that 
smells of god or mysticism. And Hawking is no fan of spiritual theories of
creation.

I wouldn't say Hagelin is an idiot but I think he's foolish to speculate so 
wildly in public. I know a physicist who think he's certifiable and would love 
to get him in a chat room to discuss some of his ideas. I bet he's got some 
smart answers though. Would be a fascinating discussion because no one has 
really dismantled the TMO cosmology as expertly as it needs, Victor Stenger's 
book took ideas like that generally, there wasn't the specialised language that 
the TMO uses so you might even thing it wasn't relevant to us. Vic and Hagelin 
would have been a good debate. Bit late now...

As with all new theories, the proponent has to show why the old one is wrong or 
where it can't explain
something newly discovered. Basically, what is this unified field theory of 
consciousness for? What does it add to our description of the universe that is 
lacking in current models. It seems to me like its tacked onto valid ideas 
without explaining why they aren't as good without it. Are we really stuck 
without it? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Its easy to see how his former colleagues are embarrassed for him when they see 
him spouting this pie in the sky trash.

If more people took to heart the writings of Victor Stenger instead of the 
nonsensical blabber of Hagelin, we might actually be living in something 
approaching an ideal society. 

 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:20 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

I got as far as 1:15 and after that felt there was no need to continue. Physics 
hasn't explained what the unified field might be or how it might work despite a 
great many people (Einstein included) trying. After that little hubris there 
seemed little point continuing as it's all John Hagelin's speculation.

It really would be
more interesting if these guys stuck to what was actually known rather than 
stuff that fits in with what they want to be true.

Where's Victor Stenger when we need
him? Oh yeah...

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

And their relationship to the Unified Field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mount Lassen today

2014-08-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Yeah, this place is amazing - one half is very comfortable, with a large modern 
house, lots of rock landscaping, fruit trees, and a pool, about a fenced acre. 
The other half is wild, sloped, and uncleared; pure potential, and lots of 
poison oak. (I'm a Gemini). Also some Ponderosa Pine, Manzanita trees, and live 
oaks. Deer, rabbits, turkey vultures, bats (no kidding), bobcats, lizards, 
black widow spiders, and the occasional rattlesnake, are native to the area. 
But no NY cabbies, so its pretty safe. 
 

 Can't wait to see the stars at night.
 

 And speaking of stars at night, please keep sharing your steamy and sordid 
tales of the Urban Jungle! Oh the filth, the excess!!
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sounds great, Dan! I always enjoyed visiting NYC, and it seems to suit you 
very, very well - Bright lights, big city. The place I lived that was similar, 
was Hong Kong - ubiquitous transportation, great restaurants, and 24/7 
activity. Bali sounds restful.  

 I am in a transition from an urban suburban lifestyle, to a place on a couple 
of acres, 1200 feet up, on a butte, with one acre still wild. Happens next 
week. I have already bought my (green, battery powered, >John< Black and 
Decker) chainsaw, and am planning a trail into the woods, that won't cause any 
erosion. Thinking about creating some outdoor art projects and interesting 
living spaces - fun and mystery. I discovered something called a tree ladder, 
with a seat at the top, used by hunters, that attaches to a tree, for a vantage 
point about 20 feet up. I want to get some infrared cameras, too. Pretty damned 
excited about it all - so many possibilities. Wowwhee. Count me in. Although an 
Urban Animal, I keep a place at the beach too. (My chainsaw attaches to an 
electrical outlet, to give you an idea). My artiste son and artistic wife have 
shows at a nearby venue (nice tax write-off, not really putting meat on the 
table). I watch that show on tele with the guy who built tree houses. Did a few 
myself, when the kids were young (I have twins)but you can imagine the 
craftsmanship, when I write 'a couple' (they were all replacements, after the 
first). I did live in The Wilderness after Maharishi's TTC in Estes Park. 
Stayed on in an unheated cabin with a pal, and then a second pal, and then a 
couple of femail pals. There's a wonderful Jewish Folklore story that fits that 
like a yarmulke, but I'll save that for another time.

I'm excited for you AND tell ALL.

From the Urban Jungle,
24/7 Dan
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 So Dan, what else do you do, when we are not sharing memories from The Time 
Machine?Fleet, it is very genrous-of-spirit of you to have interest in silly me.

When I last left off with you, I was saki tasting at Sushi Yakura, getting a 
reservation, and later a cab, was easy (Labor Day Weekend in NYC! I stay in 
Town; I'm a little counter conventional-culture, because it's so easy to do 
Anything.

Sooos, this morning I'm out, figuring there's no cars on the streets, so I will 
be. I failed to take into account that Every Tourist in NYC would be on bike. 
My mistake. Sos I head off to Riverside Park (just outside my house), which 
runs along the Hudson (thus the name). Three girls in succession with their 
persona written across their Ts (tease...get it...homonym). (1) "Take Me to 
Paris...[second line]: Now"; (2) I Woke Up Like This" obviously referring to 
her perfect make-up and perfect face"; and "Spiritual Gangster", which made me 
think of this Space We Are Currently Sharing as some of us Evolve.

Then I go to AirBnb. Book some bamboo hut (?) in Bali. I'll know better when I 
get there.

And What's Up With You? Still Scaling New Heights? Ever Reaching Higher.


From sea-level,
D

P.S. My plans for tonight include a new Sardinian restaurant the opened in the 
hood. Got the reco from A Lovely Sardinian Girl*, tonight I can get in anywhere 
(sometimes they throw be on my keester).

But tonight, for one night, I am welcome Everywhere.

Happy Labor Day Weekend!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 fleet,

20...wow...like...last...year

I bet you imagined that you HAD SCALED MT HOOD.

At your age I tripped up the Pathenon. I thought I'd walked to the Top of the 
World. Photo evidence shows me lying down getting tanned, near the start.

Oh the mind, what dreams it spins.

Your turn, then I
'm next, then you, then...
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I did that once, when I was 20, LSD (and vodka) climbing Mt. Hood in Oregon. 
We certainly didn't summit, and doubt we made more than 500 feet vertically, up 
from the ski lodge. Great view though... 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks. I did take some Ibuprofen before going, since I read that if you get a 
headache while climb

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's Crap Art

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 10:13 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
you are quite confused - a ride on a good horse might clear the air
for you.

>
This is nothing more than sexist prattle.
>

*From:* "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2014 11:10 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's Crap Art

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

what exactly are his excuses? Seems obvious to me that David Lynch's
films are an excellent caution to NOT do TM - I think I'll take out
ads in all the major magazines saying so, or maybe write an article
for the BBC magazine or some such.

You seem to be confusing a few things here. You revile DL because he
meditates or because the Movement likes him or because you hate his
films and his art pieces? Do you even know? I think he is such an
antithesis to what Sal describes as the treacly and over-done rainbows
and golden hued cartoonish nature of so much of what the Movement puts
out there. He is a breath of fresh air, a real individual who has been
"David Lynch" before he started meditating and being a spokesman for
the Movement and he will be "David Lynch" well after.

*From:* salyavin808
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:22 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's Crap Art

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

If you think that kind of stressful men puking art would EVER be
displayed at MUM, you REALLY need a head shrinker. It will NEVER happen.

No it wouldn't. The movement loves the publicity they get from DL but
most of his work wouldn't fit in very well with the flowers and
saccharine and treacly voices.

I was working for the TMO still when DL came out of the closet and
they were really excited about having a major Hollywood director on
the team. I said they should show a season of his movies on the Marshy
channel as a tribute and they thought it was a great idea. Then they
saw them

DL's excuses for how his films can be so disturbing when he's so
filled with this enlightened bliss never rang true to me. I don't
think he needs an excuse, TM doesn't turn everyone into a bliss bunny
is all we need to know. I'd hardly be here if it did.

I like his art actually, I think it's got a nice dislocating feel to
it, like his excellent early movies before he got lazy it makes you
wonder what's gone wrong when you watch, vaguely disturbing. Good
stuff. If it shows in London I'll be there, I should get a discount
for sharing mantras!

*From:* "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]"

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2014 9:20 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's Crap Art

Thanks. The exhibit could travel next to Fairfield, and be displayed
at MUM - Provocative stuff. His work is well done, and he puts a lot
of skill and effort into it. I guess the art world needs those who
focus on darker themes as Lynch often does. A little goes a long way,
though.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I guarantee if any art student at MUM put produced some garbage like
this, the university would send them home with a note to their parents
saying "get your son some psychiatric help!"

What a joke the Movement has become.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/arts/design/museum-show-for-david-lynch-who-began-as-a-visual-artist.html

image

David Lynch, Who Began as a Visual Artist, Gets a Museu...

The filmmaker David Lynch, who was first a painter, has his first
United States retrospective, at the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts.

View on www.nytimes.com

Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Lynch's Crap Art

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/30/2014 6:35 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I guarantee if any art student at MUM put produced some garbage like 
this, the university would send them home with a note to their parents 
saying "get your son some psychiatric help!"


What a joke the Movement has become.

>
These MJ posts can only be construed as trolling - they are not critical 
comments but abusive harassment.

>


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/arts/design/museum-show-for-david-lynch-who-began-as-a-visual-artist.html

image 







David Lynch, Who Began as a Visual Artist, Gets a Museu... 
 

The filmmaker David Lynch, who was first a painter, has his first 
United States retrospective, at the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts.


View on www.nytimes.com 



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Apaurusheya Bhasya

Dan, 

 I believe Subhash Kak wrote a book about the Rig Veda several years ago.  In 
it, he stated the RV mentioned in mantra form that the universe is spinning on 
an axis.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is MMY's commentary to the Rig Veda.  If you believe that the universe is 
based on consciousness, then you can understand the constitution of the 
universe.
 

 Rig Veda http://www.tony5m17h.net/RgVeda.html
 
 
 http://www.tony5m17h.net/RgVeda.html
 
 Rig Veda http://www.tony5m17h.net/RgVeda.html Tony Smith's Home Page  Rig-Veda 
Vedic Music (compare Torah Music) Sanskrit and Information  


 
 View on www.tony5m17h.net http://www.tony5m17h.net/RgVeda.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 Subhash Kak again. That's twice today! I gotta read some.
 

 Thanks for this. Vernon Kartz put me on to "Veda and Torah: Transcending the 
Textuality of Scripture" by Barbara A Holdrege. State University of New York 
(1996).
 

 It's been a while, but at the time I gave the book a lot of cred having been 
publish in NY. Maybe a little provincial.

Re: [FairfieldLife] I Got My Readership...


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Indeed you do, NYC Dan! Power to the peoples (-: I support The Individual"s 
Rights to Their Personal Freedoms.

Let no man take away...


Labor Day is Heating Up here in NYC, gotta go.

Love and Peas,
i'm out

 


 On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:04 PM, danfriedman2002 
 wrote:
 
 

   ...and they support Share Long and Richard Williams.

Labor Unite!

Reform the bourgeoisie!

[FairfieldLife] Where is the Multiverse?

2014-08-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

It may lie beyond the time and distance of the cosmic wave background.  In a 
few billion years, the CWB could disappear since the universe is expanding at 
an increasing speed.  When that edge of the universe reaches the speed of 
light, then it would blink out from our visible horizon.
 

 So, in effect, the galaxies around us are potentially the multiverse when they 
blink out from our visible horizon.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

salyavin, could you guys please make up your ding dang minds?! Either we're too 
dense and weighing down one end of the boat, or we're too fluffy. We can't be 
both! Check your physics books if you don't believe me. 





On Saturday, August 30, 2014 3:17 PM, salyavin808  
wrote:
 


  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Share,

It's a big boat.  There's plenty of room for everyone.


I'm just worried that the sudden increase of density at one end will upend it.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


I heard an analogy once that makes sense to me wrt FFL: that we're all in this 
lifeboat together. If one person changes position or leaves the boat, or if 
someone new arrives, everybody has to shift a bit to help maintain the balance 
of the boat. Ahoy mateys!



On Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:17 PM, "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:



 
I think the folks here have spoken
clearly as to who the two trolls are.  Alex doesn't want to deal
with the post limit and I can't blame him.  This is supposed to be
a forum for adults not teenagers.  Salvy is right, the graffiti
trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they hate the place.

On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:

 
>>>Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and
are equitable, because after all, one person's troll is
another's fantasy and who on this forum is qualified to
make that decision?  I like the idea of posting limits for
this forum and always did, but, of course, certainly
wouldn't want to be hall monitor myself.  So, to the
degree that I check in here, I choose to live with the
consequences of "forum freedom." 
>>>
>>>
>>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>>>
>>>
>>>Posting
limits are stupid but
moderation is not.  The trolls would have been
booted long ago if
someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little
bit.  Most other
group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested
that Richard needs
a hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the
trolls and
especially don't reply to them.  Then they'll
return to the
bridges they live under.
>>>
>>>
>>>On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The
limits were
removed. Almost immediately, Richard and
Share ushered the
forum into its evolution as a chat room -
characterized as
all are by a preponderence of meaningless
drivel.  Gone
are the limits telling the brain to put
some thought into
a post, put some thought into topics, put
some thought
into with who and in what format one
wanted to converse.
 Limits that forced a pause in the action.
 Quite the
statement this forum is, really.   
>
>
>
>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
>
>On
8/30/2014
6:51 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>
> 
>>>He has
been on vacation. But FFL
seems to have gone
mostly to
fluff lately, with a lot of
short spammy
twinkie brain
posts so there is not much
to read here any
more, no
discussions of any
substance...
>>>
>
>>You are supposed to read the
messages here BEFORE
you post your own
comments, Ajax. I thought my replies
to Bill were
right on topic,
compared to the comments posted by
the other
informants. YMMV. Go
figure.
>>
>>Subject: Awake: The Life Of
Yogananda
>>Author: Richard J. Williams
>>Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
>>Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
>>http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>>>
>>>
>>>I have not
really followed FFL
regularly for a
while.  Is Barry
(turq) on vacation
 or did he say
goodbye to FFL?  I
miss his posts.
>>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

2014-08-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wish you would get in touch with your physicist friend and ask him if he 
would contact Johnny H. and challenge him to a debate, moderated by a 
non-aligned third party.

 

 I'm sure he'd love it and I'd love to watch, this guy is Oxbridge trained and 
he just loves a good debate! It didn't take him long to dispense with the idea 
that superposition can be used to explain astrology. Nearly two seconds 
actually, and he explained why it was crap so even I could understand! 
 

 He asked if JH ever took part in webinars so he could have a go, but then was 
concerned that JH would have answers that require serious thought rather than 
instant come-backs so maybe an e-mail exchange would be more suitable because 
you have to really understand someone's ideas to be able to dissect them. JH is 
obviously a smart guy and will have gone over this many times. Or would he? 
Maybe the adoration he gets at the TMO will have blunted his debating skills. I 
left it by saying that if I hear of any web discussion involving JH I'd let him 
know. 
 

 Please let your pal Dr Krauss know that you have now heard that web chatter 
you've been so eagerly awaiting.

The idea of debating this is a non-starter. It's like trying to explain snow 
to...well, someone who never experienced snow.

Why is your crowd so interested in winning debates?

Small egos?

Need a way to impress the ladies?

Win new friends with the exact outlook as yours?

I'd like to know.


From NYC, where we get along without constant need for debates to prove our 
manhood,
Marky

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:16 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MJ, 

 Hagelin is presenting unique ideas to the scientific community which describe 
the basis of the universe, which is consciousness itself.  It's obvious that 
many scientists, like Krauss, Hawking, and Dawkins, do not with Hagelin.
 

 Hagelin may not be as foolish as you think he is.
 

 I think the word you missed out is "agree". String theory is probably outside 
Dawkins field of expertise but he will snort with derision at anything that 
smells of god or mysticism. And Hawking is no fan of spiritual theories of 
creation.
 

 I wouldn't say Hagelin is an idiot but I think he's foolish to speculate so 
wildly in public. I know a physicist who think he's certifiable and would love 
to get him in a chat room to discuss some of his ideas. I bet he's got some 
smart answers though. Would be a fascinating discussion because no one has 
really dismantled the TMO cosmology as expertly as it needs, Victor Stenger's 
book took ideas like that generally, there wasn't the specialised language that 
the TMO uses so you might even thing it wasn't relevant to us. Vic and Hagelin 
would have been a good debate. Bit late now...
 

 As with all new theories, the proponent has to show why the old one is wrong 
or where it can't explain something newly discovered. Basically, what is this 
unified field theory of consciousness for? What does it add to our description 
of the universe that is lacking in current models. It seems to me like its 
tacked onto valid ideas without explaining why they aren't as good without it. 
Are we really stuck without it? 
 

 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Its easy to see how his former colleagues are embarrassed for him when they 
see him spouting this pie in the sky trash.
 

 If more people took to heart the writings of Victor Stenger instead of the 
nonsensical blabber of Hagelin, we might actually be living in something 
approaching an ideal society. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:20 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions
 
 
   

 I got as far as 1:15 and after that felt there was no need to continue. 
Physics hasn't explained what the unified field might be or how it might work 
despite a great many people (Einstein included) trying. After that little 
hubris there seemed little point continuing as it's all John Hagelin's 
speculation.

It really would be more interesting if these guys stuck to what was actually 
known rather than stuff that fits in with what they want to be true.
 

 Where's Victor Stenger when we need him? Oh yeah...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And their relationship to the Unified Field.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc

Re: [FairfieldLife] I Got My Readership...

Indeed you do, NYC Dan! Power to the peoples (-:



On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:04 PM, danfriedman2002 
 wrote:
 


  
...and they support Share Long and Richard Williams.

Labor Unite!

Reform the bourgeoisie!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wish you would get in touch with your physicist friend and ask him if he 
would contact Johnny H. and challenge him to a debate, moderated by a 
non-aligned third party.

 

 I'm sure he'd love it and I'd love to watch, this guy is Oxbridge trained and 
he just loves a good debate! It didn't take him long to dispense with the idea 
that superposition can be used to explain astrology. Nearly two seconds 
actually, and he explained why it was crap so even I could understand! 
 

 He asked if JH ever took part in webinars so he could have a go, but then was 
concerned that JH would have answers that require serious thought rather than 
instant come-backs so maybe an e-mail exchange would be more suitable because 
you have to really understand someone's ideas to be able to dissect them. JH is 
obviously a smart guy and will have gone over this many times. Or would he? 
Maybe the adoration he gets at the TMO will have blunted his debating skills. I 
left it by saying that if I hear of any web discussion involving JH I'd let him 
know. 
 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:16 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MJ, 

 Hagelin is presenting unique ideas to the scientific community which describe 
the basis of the universe, which is consciousness itself.  It's obvious that 
many scientists, like Krauss, Hawking, and Dawkins, do not with Hagelin.
 

 Hagelin may not be as foolish as you think he is.
 

 I think the word you missed out is "agree". String theory is probably outside 
Dawkins field of expertise but he will snort with derision at anything that 
smells of god or mysticism. And Hawking is no fan of spiritual theories of 
creation.
 

 I wouldn't say Hagelin is an idiot but I think he's foolish to speculate so 
wildly in public. I know a physicist who think he's certifiable and would love 
to get him in a chat room to discuss some of his ideas. I bet he's got some 
smart answers though. Would be a fascinating discussion because no one has 
really dismantled the TMO cosmology as expertly as it needs, Victor Stenger's 
book took ideas like that generally, there wasn't the specialised language that 
the TMO uses so you might even thing it wasn't relevant to us. Vic and Hagelin 
would have been a good debate. Bit late now...
 

 As with all new theories, the proponent has to show why the old one is wrong 
or where it can't explain something newly discovered. Basically, what is this 
unified field theory of consciousness for? What does it add to our description 
of the universe that is lacking in current models. It seems to me like its 
tacked onto valid ideas without explaining why they aren't as good without it. 
Are we really stuck without it? 
 

 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Its easy to see how his former colleagues are embarrassed for him when they 
see him spouting this pie in the sky trash.
 

 If more people took to heart the writings of Victor Stenger instead of the 
nonsensical blabber of Hagelin, we might actually be living in something 
approaching an ideal society. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:20 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions
 
 
   

 I got as far as 1:15 and after that felt there was no need to continue. 
Physics hasn't explained what the unified field might be or how it might work 
despite a great many people (Einstein included) trying. After that little 
hubris there seemed little point continuing as it's all John Hagelin's 
speculation.

It really would be more interesting if these guys stuck to what was actually 
known rather than stuff that fits in with what they want to be true.
 

 Where's Victor Stenger when we need him? Oh yeah...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And their relationship to the Unified Field.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

Salyavin and Rick, 

 Now that you thought of  a debate.  I would recommend that Rick set up a 
debate on BATGAP between Hagelin and Krauss on the issue of, "Is the Universe 
Based on Consciousness?" 
 

 This could be a potential viral hit on YouTube.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MJ, 

 Hagelin is presenting unique ideas to the scientific community which describe 
the basis of the universe, which is consciousness itself.  It's obvious that 
many scientists, like Krauss, Hawking, and Dawkins, do not with Hagelin.
 

 Hagelin may not be as foolish as you think he is.
 

 I think the word you missed out is "agree". String theory is probably outside 
Dawkins field of expertise but he will snort with derision at anything that 
smells of god or mysticism. And Hawking is no fan of spiritual theories of 
creation.
 

 I wouldn't say Hagelin is an idiot but I think he's foolish to speculate so 
wildly in public. I know a physicist who think he's certifiable and would love 
to get him in a chat room to discuss some of his ideas. I bet he's got some 
smart answers though. Would be a fascinating discussion because no one has 
really dismantled the TMO cosmology as expertly as it needs, Victor Stenger's 
book took ideas like that generally, there wasn't the specialised language that 
the TMO uses so you might even thing it wasn't relevant to us. Vic and Hagelin 
would have been a good debate. Bit late now...
 

 As with all new theories, the proponent has to show why the old one is wrong 
or where it can't explain something newly discovered. Basically, what is this 
unified field theory of consciousness for? What does it add to our description 
of the universe that is lacking in current models. It seems to me like its 
tacked onto valid ideas without explaining why they aren't as good without it. 
Are we really stuck without it? 
 

 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Its easy to see how his former colleagues are embarrassed for him when they 
see him spouting this pie in the sky trash.
 

 If more people took to heart the writings of Victor Stenger instead of the 
nonsensical blabber of Hagelin, we might actually be living in something 
approaching an ideal society. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:20 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions
 
 
   

 I got as far as 1:15 and after that felt there was no need to continue. 
Physics hasn't explained what the unified field might be or how it might work 
despite a great many people (Einstein included) trying. After that little 
hubris there seemed little point continuing as it's all John Hagelin's 
speculation.

It really would be more interesting if these guys stuck to what was actually 
known rather than stuff that fits in with what they want to be true.
 

 Where's Victor Stenger when we need him? Oh yeah...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And their relationship to the Unified Field.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc

[FairfieldLife] I Got My Readership...

2014-08-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

...and they support Share Long and Richard Williams.

Labor Unite!

Reform the bourgeoisie!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynch's Crap Art

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Said like a guy who appreciates all kinds of art and is an artist himself.
Always enjoy you Mac.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I guarantee if any art student at MUM put produced some garbage like this, the
university would send them home with a note to their parents saying "get your
son some psychiatric help!"

What a joke the Movement has become.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/arts/design/museum-show-for-david-lynch-who-began-as-a-visual-artist.html

View on www.nytimes.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/arts/design/museum-show-for-david-lynch-who-began-as-a-visual-artist.html
Preview by Yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tech [1 Attachment]

2014-08-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

/Computer technician with Macintosh G4/

It's all about the Pentiums baby. Huh? Uhhuh. Yea!

What do ya wanna to do? Wanna be hackers? Cold crackers? Slackers? 
Wastin' time with all the chat-room yakkers, nine to five chillin' at 
Hewlet Packard. Workin' at a desk with a dumb little placard, yea, 
payin' the bills with my mad programin' skills, defragin' my hard drive 
for thrills. I got me a hundred gigbytes of RAM, I don't feed trolls, 
and I don't read spam. Installed a T1 line in my house, always at my PC 
double-clickin' on my misouze. Upgrade my system at least twice a day, 
I'm strictly plug and pay. I ain't afraid of y2k.

You're the dumbest newbie I've ever seen; you've got white-out all over 
your screen. You think your commodore sixty four is reallly neato; what 
kind of chip you got in there, a dorito? You're usin' a two eighty six, 
don't make me laugh. Your windows boots up in what, a day-and-a-half? 
You could back up your whole hard drive on a floppy diskette. You're the 
biggest joke on the Internet. Your database is a disaster; you're waxin' 
your modem, tryin' to make it go faster. Hey feller! I'll bet you're 
still livin' in your parents cellar, downloadin' pictures of Sarah 
Michelle Gellar; and postin' "me too", like some brain-dead aoler. I 
should do the world a favor, and cap you like old yeller. You're just 
about as useless as JPGs to Helen Keller.

What do ya wanna to do? Wanna be hackers? Cold crackers? Slackers? 
Wastin' time with all the chat-room yakkers; nine to five chillin' at 
Hewlet Packard.

Wanna run with my crew, huh? Through cyber space and crunch numbers like 
I do. They call me the king of the spreadsheets; got em all printed out 
on my bedsheets. My new computer's got the clocks; it rocks. But it was 
obsolete before I opened the box. You say you've had your desktop for 
over a week? Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique. Your laptop is 
a month old? Well, that's great, if you can use a nice, heavy, 
paper-weight. My digital media is write protected, every volume 
inspected, no viruses detected. I beta-tested every operatin' system, 
gave ops to some, on others I dissed 'em. While your computers' 
crashin', mine's multi-taskin. Got a flat screen monitor, forty inches 
wide; I believe yours says etch-a-sketch on the side. In a 32-bit world, 
you're a two bit user; you've got your own newsgroup - all total losers. 
You're motherboard melts, when you try to send a fax; where'd you get 
that CPU? In a box of cracker jacks?

What do ya wanna to do? Wanna be hackers? Cold crackers? Slackers? 
Wastin' time with all the chat-room yakkers. Nine to five, chillin at 
Hewlet Packard. What?

"Weird Al" Yankovic - It's All About The Pentiums - Running With Scissors CD

>

On 8/30/2014 2:55 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>

"Weird Al" Yankovic - It's All About The Pentiums
http://youtu.be/qpMvS1Q1sos

>

On 8/29/2014 2:03 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

>
Today we pinged our hosted server and ran the Google Analytics. Then, 
we powerwashed our Chromebook.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Share, 

 It's a big boat.  There's plenty of room for everyone.

 I'm just worried that the sudden increase of density at one end will upend it.

 I've got my life jacket and have an extra life boat with room for three others.

 I'll make sandwiches, we'll navigate by the stars, maybe we'll find a more 
agreeable shore by sunrise... 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I heard an analogy once that makes sense to me wrt FFL: that we're all in this 
lifeboat together. If one person changes position or leaves the boat, or if 
someone new arrives, everybody has to shift a bit to help maintain the balance 
of the boat. Ahoy mateys!

 On Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:17 PM, "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:

 I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two trolls are.  Alex 
doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I can't blame him.  This is 
supposed to be a forum for adults not teenagers.  Salvy is right, the graffiti 
trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they hate the place.

 On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are equitable, 
because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy and who on this 
forum is qualified to make that decision?  I like the idea of posting limits 
for this forum and always did, but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be 
hall monitor myself.  So, to the degree that I check in here, I choose to live 
with the consequences of "forum freedom." 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

 Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would have been 
booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little bit.  Most 
other group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested that Richard needs a 
hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't 
reply to them.  Then they'll return to the bridges they live under.

 On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed. Almost 
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat 
room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone 
are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some 
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one 
wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the 
statement this forum is, really.   

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, 
with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read 
here any more, no discussions of any substance...

 >
 You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments, 
Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the 
comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

 Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
 Author: Richard J. Williams
 Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
 Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

 I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry (turq) on 
vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

I wish you would get in touch with your physicist friend and ask him if he 
would contact Johnny H. and challenge him to a debate, moderated by a 
non-aligned third party.

 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:16 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

MJ,

Hagelin is presenting unique ideas to the scientific community which describe 
the basis of the universe, which is consciousness itself.  It's obvious that 
many scientists, like Krauss, Hawking, and Dawkins, do not with Hagelin.

Hagelin may not be as foolish as you think he is.

I think the word you missed out is "agree". String theory is probably outside 
Dawkins field of expertise but he will snort with derision at anything that 
smells of god or mysticism. And Hawking is no fan of spiritual theories of 
creation.

I wouldn't say Hagelin is an idiot but I think he's foolish to speculate so 
wildly in public. I know a physicist who think he's certifiable and would love 
to get him in a chat room to discuss some of his ideas. I bet he's got some 
smart answers though. Would be a fascinating discussion because no one has 
really dismantled the TMO cosmology as expertly as it needs, Victor Stenger's 
book took ideas like that generally, there wasn't the specialised language that 
the TMO uses so you might even thing it wasn't relevant to us. Vic and Hagelin 
would have been a good debate. Bit late now...

As with all new theories, the proponent has to show why the old one is wrong or 
where it can't explain something newly discovered. Basically, what is this 
unified field theory of consciousness for? What does it add to our description 
of the universe that is lacking in current models. It seems to me like its 
tacked onto valid ideas without explaining why they aren't as good without it. 
Are we really stuck without it? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Its easy to see how his former colleagues are embarrassed for him when they see 
him spouting this pie in the sky trash.

If more people took to heart the writings of Victor Stenger instead of the 
nonsensical blabber of Hagelin, we might actually be living in something 
approaching an ideal society. 

 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:20 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions

I got as far as 1:15 and after that felt there was no need to continue. Physics 
hasn't explained what the unified field might be or how it might work despite a 
great many people (Einstein included) trying. After that little hubris there 
seemed little point continuing as it's all John Hagelin's speculation.

It really would be more interesting if these guys stuck to what was actually 
known rather than stuff that fits in with what they want to be true.

Where's Victor Stenger when we need
him? Oh yeah...

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

And their relationship to the Unified Field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Share, 

 It's a big boat.  There's plenty of room for everyone.

 I'm just worried that the sudden increase of density at one end will upend it.

 I've got my life jacket and have an extra life boat with room for three others.
Funny how I mention a Chromebook and how conveniently it travels from house to 
BOAT, to beach and, subsequently, all anyone can talk about is boats?

OK - BOAT PARTY. EVERYONE INVITED (almost).
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I heard an analogy once that makes sense to me wrt FFL: that we're all in this 
lifeboat together. If one person changes position or leaves the boat, or if 
someone new arrives, everybody has to shift a bit to help maintain the balance 
of the boat. Ahoy mateys!

 On Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:17 PM, "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:

 I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two trolls are.  Alex 
doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I can't blame him.  This is 
supposed to be a forum for adults not teenagers.  Salvy is right, the graffiti 
trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they hate the place.

 On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are equitable, 
because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy and who on this 
forum is qualified to make that decision?  I like the idea of posting limits 
for this forum and always did, but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be 
hall monitor myself.  So, to the degree that I check in here, I choose to live 
with the consequences of "forum freedom." 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

 Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would have been 
booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little bit.  Most 
other group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested that Richard needs a 
hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't 
reply to them.  Then they'll return to the bridges they live under.

 On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed. Almost 
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat 
room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone 
are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some 
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one 
wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the 
statement this forum is, really.   

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, 
with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read 
here any more, no discussions of any substance...

 >
 You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments, 
Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the 
comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

 Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
 Author: Richard J. Williams
 Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
 Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

 I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry (turq) on 
vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

2014-08-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, we'd have to put it to a vote and thinking of the joy and pleasure Share 
derives from those who shall not be labeled or named, I personally am willing 
to suck it up and just scroll past the 200+ posts a week from the two currently 
in the running.  I'm trying to make amends to Share and her happiness is 
important to me.  :) Me too! I second that gesture. I love Share (now I've said 
it)

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two trolls are.  Alex 
doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I can't blame him.  This is 
supposed to be a forum for adults not teenagers.  Salvy is right, the graffiti 
trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they hate the place.

 On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are equitable, 
because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy and who on this 
forum is qualified to make that decision?  I like the idea of posting limits 
for this forum and always did, but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be 
hall monitor myself.  So, to the degree that I check in here, I choose to live 
with the consequences of "forum freedom." 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

 Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would have been 
booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little bit.  Most 
other group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested that Richard needs a 
hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't 
reply to them.  Then they'll return to the bridges they live under.

 On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed. Almost 
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat 
room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone 
are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some 
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one 
wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the 
statement this forum is, really.   

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, 
with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read 
here any more, no discussions of any substance...

 >
 You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments, 
Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the 
comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

 Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
 Author: Richard J. Williams
 Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
 Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

 I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry (turq) on 
vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Share, 

 It's a big boat.  There's plenty of room for everyone.

 I'm just worried that the sudden increase of density at one end will upend it.

 I've got my life jacket and have an extra life boat with room for three others.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I heard an analogy once that makes sense to me wrt FFL: that we're all in this 
lifeboat together. If one person changes position or leaves the boat, or if 
someone new arrives, everybody has to shift a bit to help maintain the balance 
of the boat. Ahoy mateys!

 On Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:17 PM, "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:

 I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two trolls are.  Alex 
doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I can't blame him.  This is 
supposed to be a forum for adults not teenagers.  Salvy is right, the graffiti 
trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they hate the place.

 On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are equitable, 
because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy and who on this 
forum is qualified to make that decision?  I like the idea of posting limits 
for this forum and always did, but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be 
hall monitor myself.  So, to the degree that I check in here, I choose to live 
with the consequences of "forum freedom." 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

 Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would have been 
booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little bit.  Most 
other group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested that Richard needs a 
hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't 
reply to them.  Then they'll return to the bridges they live under.

 On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed. Almost 
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat 
room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone 
are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some 
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one 
wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the 
statement this forum is, really.   

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, 
with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read 
here any more, no discussions of any substance...

 >
 You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments, 
Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the 
comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

 Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
 Author: Richard J. Williams
 Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
 Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

 I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry (turq) on 
vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mount Lassen today


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 People are getting weirder and weirder. [Healthy outlook here.] I notice last 
Sunday how bad pedestrians [Bad People, Very Bad, Bad People.] were at 
crossings [Stupid, Stupid, Stupid People]and figured it must've been some PTSD 
[Said the Dazed and Confused about his neighbors] after the quake because they 
usually aren't that way. ["Well not all of them. I mean well not all of the, 
all of the time"] We also have a lot of Calfornians who figure they should just 
"let it all hang out." [Shame, shame on those Californians"]

B - I know you are consumed with hatred. But the very nice Californians? And 
after the earthquake. Have a heart. Hater

NYC loves California! We LOVE YOU (don't let B get you down when your down. 
He's just like that. Can't help himself. Ya, I feel you...he shouldn't kick 
while you're down.

But he knows no other way. He won't even Man Up enough to use proper nouns. 
punkass

Happy to be friends with Californians,
D
  
 On 08/30/2014 11:56 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Beautiful area, though the mountain roads are dangerous - twice on the way 
back from my climb, I came around a corner and someone was in my lane, across a 
double yellow - Very Scary. One was a motorcycle (possibly survivable) and one 
was a lumber truck (not survivable). Very scary - I was amazed at how quickly 
the 18 wheeler got back into his lane, after avoiding someone dead stopped in 
his lane, around a curve - thought he would roll. Flipped the motorcycle the 
bird, since he was just illegally passing slow traffic.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 My Berkeley ayurvedic MD left for Lassen because there is apparently an 
alternative care clinic in the area that needed an administrator.
 
 On 08/30/2014 11:40 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Yes, the sulfur pools!  - You drive by them on the way in. You can smell 
sulfur about halfway up the mountain, too. A lot stronger than I expected - I 
want to return to see more of the park. There is an area near the Lassen 
trailhead called "Bumpass Hell". Probably need to get a t-shirt of that, at the 
gift shop.

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 I've only visited Mt. Lassen once when I was a kid during a family vacation.  
I remember the boiling sulfur pools by the side of the paths.  But then I've 
lived in this town 14 years and only recently drove through the picturesque 
town of Crockett just a few miles away.
   
 On 08/29/2014 03:58 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   It was amazing, and once is enough. That is a tough one, in the thin air. I 
did feel nauseated above 10,000 feet, and that lasted a little while. Anything 
over a snail's pace during the climb is impossible. Did the R/T in 3:15, even 
so. Started at 7:15-ish, with about twenty people on the trail, total. The 
final push is up very loose rock, with a bad fall a step away. The surprise was 
how cold it was - 50 or so - numb finger tips from that, and the altitude. 
Didn't need climbing gear, except a hiking stick, and good shoes.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mount Lassen today


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 People are getting weirder and weirder.  I notice last Sunday how bad 
pedestrians were at crossings and figured it must've been some PTSD after the 
quake because they usually aren't that way.  We also have a lot of Calfornians 
who figure they should just "let it all hang out."
  
 On 08/30/2014 11:56 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Beautiful area, though the mountain roads are dangerous - twice on the way 
back from my climb, I came around a corner and someone was in my lane, across a 
double yellow - Very Scary. One was a motorcycle (possibly survivable) and one 
was a lumber truck (not survivable). Very scary - I was amazed at how quickly 
the 18 wheeler got back into his lane, after avoiding someone dead stopped in 
his lane, around a curve - thought he would roll. Flipped the motorcycle the 
bird, since he was just illegally passing slow traffic.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 My Berkeley ayurvedic MD left for Lassen because there is apparently an 
alternative care clinic in the area that needed an administrator.
 
 On 08/30/2014 11:40 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Yes, the sulfur pools!  - You drive by them on the way in. You can smell 
sulfur about halfway up the mountain, too. A lot stronger than I expected - I 
want to return to see more of the park. There is an area near the Lassen 
trailhead called "Bumpass Hell". Probably need to get a t-shirt of that, at the 
gift shop.

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 I've only visited Mt. Lassen once when I was a kid during a family vacation.  
I remember the boiling sulfur pools by the side of the paths.  But then I've 
lived in this town 14 years and only recently drove through the picturesque 
town of Crockett just a few miles away.
   
 On 08/29/2014 03:58 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   It was amazing, and once is enough. That is a tough one, in the thin air. I 
did feel nauseated above 10,000 feet, and that lasted a little while. Anything 
over a snail's pace during the climb is impossible. Did the R/T in 3:15, even 
so. Started at 7:15-ish, with about twenty people on the trail, total. The 
final push is up very loose rock, with a bad fall a step away. The surprise was 
how cold it was - 50 or so - numb finger tips from that, and the altitude. 
Didn't need climbing gear, except a hiking stick, and good shoes.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Share, 

 It's a big boat.  There's plenty of room for everyone.

 I'm just worried that the sudden increase of density at one end will upend it.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I heard an analogy once that makes sense to me wrt FFL: that we're all in this 
lifeboat together. If one person changes position or leaves the boat, or if 
someone new arrives, everybody has to shift a bit to help maintain the balance 
of the boat. Ahoy mateys!

 On Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:17 PM, "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:

 I think the folks here have spoken clearly as to who the two trolls are.  Alex 
doesn't want to deal with the post limit and I can't blame him.  This is 
supposed to be a forum for adults not teenagers.  Salvy is right, the graffiti 
trolls are just trying to ruin FFL because they hate the place.

 On 08/30/2014 12:11 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Posting limits function as a moderator, in a sense, and are equitable, 
because after all, one person's troll is another's fantasy and who on this 
forum is qualified to make that decision?  I like the idea of posting limits 
for this forum and always did, but, of course, certainly wouldn't want to be 
hall monitor myself.  So, to the degree that I check in here, I choose to live 
with the consequences of "forum freedom." 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

 Posting limits are stupid but moderation is not.  The trolls would have been 
booted long ago if someone weren't afraid to moderate just a little bit.  Most 
other group moderators do this.  Rick even suggested that Richard needs a 
hobby.   Best policy currently is to ignore the trolls and especially don't 
reply to them.  Then they'll return to the bridges they live under.

 On 08/30/2014 10:38 AM, dmevans365@... mailto:dmevans365@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Yep.  Interesting what has happened.  The limits were removed. Almost 
immediately, Richard and Share ushered the forum into its evolution as a chat 
room - characterized as all are by a preponderence of meaningless drivel.  Gone 
are the limits telling the brain to put some thought into a post, put some 
thought into topics, put some thought into with who and in what format one 
wanted to converse.  Limits that forced a pause in the action.  Quite the 
statement this forum is, really.   

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/30/2014 6:51 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   He has been on vacation. But FFL seems to have gone mostly to fluff lately, 
with a lot of short spammy twinkie brain posts so there is not much to read 
here any more, no discussions of any substance...

 >
 You are supposed to read the messages here BEFORE you post your own comments, 
Ajax. I thought my replies to Bill were right on topic, compared to the 
comments posted by the other informants. YMMV. Go figure.

 Subject: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda
 Author: Richard J. Williams
 Forum: Yahoo! FairfieldLife
 Date: Thursday, 28 August 2014
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg327060.html
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:wayback71@... wrote :

 I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry (turq) on 
vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MJ, 

 Hagelin is presenting unique ideas to the scientific community which describe 
the basis of the universe, which is consciousness itself.  It's obvious that 
many scientists, like Krauss, Hawking, and Dawkins, do not with Hagelin.
 

 Hagelin may not be as foolish as you think he is.
 

 I think the word you missed out is "agree". String theory is probably outside 
Dawkins field of expertise but he will snort with derision at anything that 
smells of god or mysticism. And Hawking is no fan of spiritual theories of 
creation.
 

 I wouldn't say Hagelin is an idiot but I think he's foolish to speculate so 
wildly in public. I know a physicist who think he's certifiable and would love 
to get him in a chat room to discuss some of his ideas. I bet he's got some 
smart answers though. Would be a fascinating discussion because no one has 
really dismantled the TMO cosmology as expertly as it needs, Victor Stenger's 
book took ideas like that generally, there wasn't the specialised language that 
the TMO uses so you might even thing it wasn't relevant to us. Vic and Hagelin 
would have been a good debate. Bit late now...
 

 As with all new theories, the proponent has to show why the old one is wrong 
or where it can't explain something newly discovered. Basically, what is this 
unified field theory of consciousness for? What does it add to our description 
of the universe that is lacking in current models. It seems to me like its 
tacked onto valid ideas without explaining why they aren't as good without it. 
Are we really stuck without it? 
 

 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Its easy to see how his former colleagues are embarrassed for him when they 
see him spouting this pie in the sky trash.
 

 If more people took to heart the writings of Victor Stenger instead of the 
nonsensical blabber of Hagelin, we might actually be living in something 
approaching an ideal society. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:20 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin Explains the 11 Spacetime Dimensions
 
 
   

 I got as far as 1:15 and after that felt there was no need to continue. 
Physics hasn't explained what the unified field might be or how it might work 
despite a great many people (Einstein included) trying. After that little 
hubris there seemed little point continuing as it's all John Hagelin's 
speculation.

It really would be more interesting if these guys stuck to what was actually 
known rather than stuff that fits in with what they want to be true.
 

 Where's Victor Stenger when we need him? Oh yeah...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And their relationship to the Unified Field.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhgDfT4Zpc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apaurusheya Bhasya

2014-08-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is MMY's commentary to the Rig Veda.  If you believe that the universe is 
based on consciousness, then you can understand the constitution of the 
universe.
 

 Rig Veda http://www.tony5m17h.net/RgVeda.html
 
 
 http://www.tony5m17h.net/RgVeda.html 
 
 Rig Veda http://www.tony5m17h.net/RgVeda.html Tony Smith's Home Page  Rig-Veda 
Vedic Music (compare Torah Music) Sanskrit and Information   
 
 
 
 View on www.tony5m17h.net http://www.tony5m17h.net/RgVeda.html 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

 Subhash Kak again. That's twice today! I gotta read some.
 

 Thanks for this. Vernon Kartz put me on to "Veda and Torah: Transcending the 
Textuality of Scripture" by Barbara A Holdrege. State University of New York 
(1996).
 

 It's been a while, but at the time I gave the book a lot of cred having been 
publish in NY. Maybe a little provincial.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Where is Barry Wright?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Maybe this is the real life plot of a creepy movie, and "Judy" was always 
Barry. Then Barry bonked his head one day, and "Judy" disappeared.

 >
 On 8/30/2014 9:05 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
 >

 Maybe a better question is ,"Why is bawee wight?"

 >
 Maybe because he likes to write? 
 I mean, why is he?
 >

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 I beleive he popped up once or twice today. Must be spending his time 
searching the internet for Judy Stein.

 On Friday, August 29, 2014 6:50 PM, "wayback71@... [FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:wayback71@...[FairfieldLife]  
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

   I have not really followed FFL regularly for a while.  Is Barry (turq) on 
vacation  or did he say goodbye to FFL?  I miss his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Barry Wright?